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DeLoreans Returning To Production After 35 Years by Nathaniel Govingfoot - Fri, 05 Feb 2016 14:48:44 EST ID:iRMti3rW No.33420 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>First of all – THANK YOU! It wasn’t our plan to announce the introduction the DeLorean resurrection in this way – a simple little local news story got picked up nationally overnight on January 26th and before we knew what had happened it was worldwide! We have seen and read a lot of stories and comments and want to use this as an opportunity, again to say “thanks”, but also to keep everyone updated on what is happening here at DeLorean Motor Company and our plans in regards to the “Low Volume Vehicle Manufacturing Act”.

>Next, we also want to give a shout-out to Congressman Gene Green (D-TX) and Congressman Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) who were the co-sponsors of the “Low Volume Motor Vehicle Manufacturers Act” (HR 2675). The Specialty Equipment Manufacturers Association (SEMA) has been working with Congress since 2011 to create a reasonable and responsible regulatory structure to allow small companies (like us!) to produce a limited number of replica motor vehicles. These vehicles will be subject to equipment standards (think headlights, wipers, horns, etc) but exempt from vehicle standards (passive restraint, roof crush, side impact, etc). This legislation simply treats these vehicles the same as “kit cars” purchased and assembled by customers. Current model year, emissions certified, clean engines must be used. You can read the highlights of the law here.

>For DeLorean Motor Company, this means that we can now assemble and sell a complete, “turn-key” vehicle, using many of the same parts that were used to create the original DeLorean car from 1981-1983. Since the mid-nineties, we have owned the remaining stocks of parts, engineering drawings and some of the factory tooling and equipment and now have all of this in our suburban Houston, Texas location. Want to see how much we still have? Take a virtual tour of our facility courtesy of Google Places (kind of like Google Street View, but inside our facility).

>A DeLorean is made up of about 2800 or so individual parts – stainless panels, glass, seats, tires, wheels, brakes, carpet, seat belts, engine, transmission, nuts, bolts, washers and much more! We’re fortunate to have more than 95% of these parts still available to us as either original DeLorean parts, parts that we have sourced from new suppliers and many that we have had reproduced using the drawings mentioned earlier. That means that the exterior shape and design of the car that everyone recognizes and loves will be unchanged.

>What will be different about the cars? Well, we mentioned engines, and that’s a big piece of the puzzle that we are working on! Since we must use a current model year, emissions certified engine in these replica DeLoreans, we’re already in talks with four engine suppliers – two domestic and two import. We’ve signed non-disclosure agreements with all of them, so we can’t say exactly who – yet. We can say that the engines we are considering are both naturally aspirated and turbocharged, four-cylinder and six-cylinder, and they produce between approximately 270hp (200 kw) and 350hp (261kw). We hope to conclude negotiations and be able to announce our engine partner very soon.

>Many of you that are already familiar with the DeLorean know that the car originally came with 15″ wheels on the rear, and 14″ on the front. There are no performance tires in those sizes any longer, so we are looking hard at new, larger, wheels and tires. Larger wheels and tires means that we can use bigger brakes, too! We’re likely to stick with Eibach as our spring supplier, and have been in negotiations and had samples from a well-known German shock absorber supplier, too.

>Another area that will see significant upgrades is the in-car entertainment and connectivity. The original DeLorean came with a four-speaker, AM/FM cassette player – standard fare for 1981, but not today. For years we have been upgrading this part of the car through our service and restoration work, and we’ll continue to push that envelope as much as we can. A modern, improved HVAC system has also already been tested and is planned for these cars, as well.
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Emma Brookshit - Sat, 06 Feb 2016 12:56:49 EST ID:iDPNFYeV No.33422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Some serious things to consider, since "returning to production" isn't really a true statement.

They're not really, "returning to production" but rather they are building cars out of existing parts. So they're not really technically returning to production since they are not producing new cars out of new parts, but rather they're making "new" cars out of old parts.

Not that they could even produce new parts anyway. When Delorean closed in northern Ireland they were taken under receivership by the British government, since the nation of Great Britain was essentially the majority owner due to all the subsides and state-sponsored financing they gave John Delorean to build his factory. British parliament then proceeded to liquidate the company. All of the stamping dies used to produce the body parts were sold as scrap metal, where they later were turned into fishing net anchors, put on a boat, and dropped into the Atlantic ocean. So unless these guys either have the shear piles of money it will take to re-engineer new stamping dies -- or if they some how have a legitimate plan to pay salvagers to troll off the north coast of Ireland for hunks of metal the size of small trucks that have been under the sea for 35 years -- then they will never be able to produce new parts.

When Delorean went under, all of the warehoused parts already created up to that point were sold several times, where they ended up in Denmark, then the Netherlands, then New Jersey, then ultimately they ended up in Texas. Around this time a guy in Texas bought the parts, and he also acquired all of the intellectual property rights for Delorean off of John Delorean's estate and from John's wife, who was still alive (and vehemently against all of what he planned to do). That was around 2007. He started a business refurbishing Deloreans that were already in the U.S. and he did have a plan to produce whole cars from the parts, but then the financial crisis hit and all the money dried up and that plan fell through.

Now basically the same thing is happening. All the loose money in the financial markets right now means that this hairbrained scheme is feasible again. So what will you get if you buy one?

You will get a Delorean that has been entirely custom re-manufactured from the 35 year old parts that were produced before the production lines closed down in '83. Even though your car is "brand new", for legal purposes it will be a model year 1983 car, and that is what will be on the title. So it's not even legally considered to be a "new" car, but a re-manufactured car instead.

It's important to remember: there is a reason that Delorean went out of business. These cars as they were stock are pieces of crap. They're massively underpowered, slow to accelerate, handle like an oil tanker, and their engine cooling subsystems are not designed correctly, so you're gonna overheat a lot.

Basically this is an opportunity for collector car enthusiats, as a very popular car to collect is going to temporarily have some new inventory introduced into the market, which will probably temporarily drive down prices of Deloreans in the collectors market, but once production ceases (which I doubt would go on for any longer than a year -- next financial crisis and this plan will get shelved again), then the values of collector-grade Deloreans will probably rise again. So if you're a collector and you've always had an empty spot in your barn for a Delorean, then now might be your best buy opportunity in a decade.
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Jack Dollerted - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 01:56:02 EST ID:4SV4h0Fu No.33440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It says in the OP they will be built with a modern engine, suspension, wheels, brakes, audio system, and climate control
>DMC anticipates to build approximately 50 vehicles per year over the next six years with an estimated retail price of $100,000
Still better be a hell of an upgrade for an asking price of $100k
James Gucklewotch - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 21:23:38 EST ID:iDPNFYeV No.33441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Its the frame superstructure and the body panels that matter, though. A delorean is not a delorean without them. And for all effective purposes those can never be manufactured again. So there is a finite supply of them. Intact body panels are collectors items in themselves.

Flying First class by Ernball - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 02:05:07 EST ID:8Mln82NQ No.33433 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Flying from Chicago to London soon. Everytime I've gone, I've always flown economy on British Airways. It's not so bad. Free booze in economy, but shit for legroom and the seating is "snug"

Anybody here ever flown first class? Is it worth the money on an 8 hour + flight?

pic not really, but sorta kinda related, but not really
Eugene Clinderbatch - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:10:24 EST ID:iDPNFYeV No.33436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm kinda interested in knowing if paying for domestic business class is worth it. I gotta go from pennsylvania to oregon in 2 months and I'm willing to pay a little bit more to keep a little more of my sanity by the end of it.
Jack Dartdock - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:05:24 EST ID:23DmjMMV No.33437 Ignore Report Quick Reply

idk OP, it really depends on the airline. I've seen some first class sections that were only marginally better than coach and that didn't justify the pricer tickets. On the other hand I've seen some first class sections where you get nice huge comfy seats with more legroom than you could possibly use for not too much more per ticket. Plus you usually get to board/disembark first, have television (sometimes you gotta pay for it, sometimes ya don't) and yeah, free booze still.

I'd honestly look up customer reviews of the first class section for both the airline AND the model of plane on which you'll be flying before making a decision. I've flown first class a few times and trust me, on a very long flight it can definitely be worth it. Plus there's much less of a chance of being stuck next to people who will make your flight more hellish.
Ernball - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:09:05 EST ID:8Mln82NQ No.33438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good advice. Thanks
Fuck Wushstock - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:30:13 EST ID:ADg+WFDr No.33439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
any time I've looked at first class prices they're at least 5x the price so not worth it imo. but I was also flying abroad to backpack so the bar was low

Vehicular Innovation by Esther Cossleforth - Sun, 31 Jan 2016 01:31:57 EST ID:dP6lokbO No.33393 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is a thread for weird, new shit in motorized vehicles. New ideas, new technology, ideas that came before their time, solutions to problems, engineering porn, etc.

Here's the motoczysz C1, which was a few years ago a very real super bike contender and some would argue possibly a moto GP game changer. The bike and its bizarre engine were both designed by a crazy rich American with no engineering background and a a couple million dollars. It had a counter-rotating engine built around two very narrow V twins, longitudinally mounted with 3 cams. The whole installed engine was narrower than the rear tire. It also had an external, swapable gearbox, a swingarm pivot coaxial to the front sprocket, all structural members and fairings made of carbon fiber, and a carbon fiber front suspension with linear roller bearings and an external strut. Many test riders consider Czysz's prototype front end to be the the best ever designed for a race bike.
A Wizard - Mon, 01 Feb 2016 02:45:01 EST ID:7mh9Ewt8 No.33397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would invent an RFID chip remover so the government will stop spying and gangstalking me
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Fucking Woblingforth - Mon, 01 Feb 2016 11:46:33 EST ID:/FEMUnoy No.33400 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Not using a Scrambler of any kind
Matilda Settingwill - Sat, 06 Feb 2016 00:58:45 EST ID:dP6lokbO No.33421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well at least check this guy out:

He's had a few builds with Hartley V-8s which are pretty fucking mind blowing just by themselves...

Nigger Blatherdock - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 20:31:29 EST ID:pD+Jw6Wd No.33430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gotta love how the rules were changed and so that bike couldn't compete in MotoGP.

Favourite YouTube car video of all time? by William Giddleham - Sat, 05 Dec 2015 19:37:24 EST ID:GRlYZtk4 No.33154 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can be anything. Carfags get in here.


Vid related, 900hp K20 (2L 4 cyl Honda Engine) in a Toyota MR2 shitting on everything in its path.
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Ernest Fingerham - Tue, 19 Jan 2016 02:38:27 EST ID:D48tpqKU No.33345 Ignore Report Quick Reply

How do you waste lots of gas on a Honda?
Doris Dundersedge - Mon, 25 Jan 2016 03:33:04 EST ID:MIDawK7L No.33376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You get to see a pic related (a real one even, not a replica) tear ass around a racetrack. The exhaust sounds are fucking insane and there's only five of these things left in the world, the sixth was lost. You get to hear this thing at idle, acceleration, upshifting, downshifting, a view under the hood, etc etc.

You also get to play "spot the midget" in this video, and that's fun.
Jack Mommleworth - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 02:45:00 EST ID:GRlYZtk4 No.33380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well it was a built H22 running about 18 pounds of boost so it wasn't exactly fuel efficient
Charlotte Pickfield - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 06:58:02 EST ID:D48tpqKU No.33381 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Oh neat then.
David Pickwater - Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:00:45 EST ID:6rBlQXxE No.33385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>You also get to play "spot the midget" in this video, and that's fun.
I knew exactly what video that was after reading that part.

Gurgle Car by Rebecca Chobberkit - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 01:34:00 EST ID:kxuqWPTC No.33365 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you make your car louder in a low frequency sense, like a gurgle? I dont want a ghetto rig with high treble. I want a good idle rumble, with maximum low frequency and minimum high freq.. Where do I turn?

Thank You
Sidney Hillyhotch - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:50:05 EST ID:ZTHRx7FS No.33367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you pay people hundreds of dollars to install hundreds of dollars' worth of custom exhaust and then you hope

or you find something better to do with your money
Archie Bombleville - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:57:35 EST ID:IMB5KOGb No.33368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can let your muffler rust out until a big hole forms in it.
Fuck Bardville - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 02:03:22 EST ID:Ijs2Kkof No.33372 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just what the world needs, more noise pollution.

Caroline Bonningman - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:03:02 EST ID:kxuqWPTC No.33374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh please, I'm not some kind of harley asshole. Theres a huge difference
Caroline Fidgeshaw - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:58:06 EST ID:/FEMUnoy No.33434 Ignore Report Quick Reply

By the question you made one can infer that you are actually worse that a Harley brawler.

fuck me by Archie Chebbledock - Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:49:38 EST ID:0zZJo9GN No.31243 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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1:10 in this video, just do it

don't care if it's an old video that you've seen a million times
Prince - Tue, 19 Jan 2016 02:49:31 EST ID:e7aH9ggD No.33346 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Angus Blonningkig - Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:00:02 EST ID:IMB5KOGb No.33347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
get on my level
Albert Dartforth - Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:32:59 EST ID:UYplCc6z No.33350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like how it took almost a year and a half for this thread to get any replies.

Reuben Mennerpetch - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 03:54:02 EST ID:GRlYZtk4 No.33373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I made this thread. not sure how nobody is drooling over that f50 after all this time

You make $250,000 USD per year by Hedda Deblingwater - Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:08:54 EST ID:GRlYZtk4 No.33207 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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You make 250k USD per year. Which car(s) do you buy or finance? Be as realistic as possible

>Weekend monster
Built MK4 Supra (Royal Sapphire Pearl on black) on high boost and Hoosier slicks.This is the car that I'd use to embarrass anyone who thinks their car is fast with the legendary and overengineered 2JZ

>Weekend slow lane cruiser
1987 Toyota AE86 Trueno - because I've always wanted the car from Initial D

>Daily beater/winter beater
2012 Audi Q7 V12 TDI (black on black) - reliability, lots of torque because turbo diesel v12, comfort/heated seats, great sound system, and an aesthetically pleasning design overall
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Samuel Suttingkene - Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:45:29 EST ID:GRlYZtk4 No.33294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Good list. The R34 was in second place for my weekend monster, the RB26 is pretty much on par with the 2JZ except I like the look of the Supra a little more (not by a lot though). The F20 is a great swap because like most Honda engines it comes with reliability, the F20 and K20 are viable options for an AE86. There's an MR2 on YouTube with a 900whp K20 swap on the 1320video channel.

I'd go with a VIP type car for daily driving if I lived in a place that didn't have snow, pic related it's a W140 S500. This car looks so fucking murderous
Nigel Pammershit - Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:23:33 EST ID:iDPNFYeV No.33296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I'm gonna spend $25,000 every year to upgrade my car because it's somehow a "good deal"

This is what bimmerfags actually believe
Sophie Crimmerfield - Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:07:09 EST ID:D48tpqKU No.33297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well I'd pick a Legacy (na) for DD and my weekend car would be a Mitsuoka Le Seyde.
Isabella Givingwell - Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:58:06 EST ID:AfiY8IAS No.33362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Weekend monster
83 DeLorean

>Weekend slow lane cruiser
83 DeLorean

>Daily beater/winter beater
83 DeLorean
Walter Gangerworth - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 00:28:56 EST ID:D48tpqKU No.33363 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Eternal pain in the ass
83 DeLorean

Iceland by Nigger Fottingridge - Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:54:37 EST ID:WffjDVRc No.33312 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yo what up catz. So Wow airlines is having really a good deal to fly to Iceland. I was wondering if anyone here lives there or has visited? How's the job market over there? I wouldn't mind using that as my start off point, if I could find some work to save money. I know there's tons of fun stuff to do there I just need another source of income while there.

General Iceland thread

Black sand beach in Iceland
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Frederick Sobberfin - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:37:35 EST ID:ADg+WFDr No.33358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Almost missed that opportunity to slight the yanks eh?
Rebecca Peffingpidge - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:59:33 EST ID:ygpZKk6x No.33359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Almost missed that opportunity to slight the yanks eh?

I hate tourists, you know the people who scream hey Im here and your home is just an amusement park for me, they get in the way.

Personally I like people who visit and dont get in the way of peoples everyday life. Business travelers arent so bad. Some tourists can be very nice as an exception to that rule, but they still always get in the way (by saying things "like can you tell me where the thing directly behind me is" or "where is thing you have no idea the location of is because only tourists go there").
Betsy Sarringhall - Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:08:07 EST ID:AoYndYiY No.33361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
idk man tourists are just the nature of things if you live in an area like that. asking questions is the least of your concerns imo. how about all those tourists in germany right now? I think they're worse.
Nell Lightfoot - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 23:16:10 EST ID:TIzMdwS/ No.33371 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Roaches are apart of the nature of things.
CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 25 Jan 2016 04:48:09 EST ID:I3GeC4zn No.33377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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t0p c3c

Episode IV: A New Hope by Eugene Fenkinded - Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:29:20 EST ID:maq41qoN No.33161 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there anyone Scandinavians living in the US of A in here? I'm really thinking about moving "over the pond", but I'm kinda at fault at where to start.

How does one get a greencard? Do I even need one? What states would you recommend and sites where I could look for work or places to live or anything. I was initally thinking about Virgiania or whatever at the East Coast, but I've started leaning towards the west coast.. Heard it's somewhat cheaper.

I know, kinda vague, but any help would be superappreciated as I've actually found someone to take over my apartment after New Years Eve and I have some cash at hand.
Like, I'm really fucking sick of this country and if you're running from something it seems like USA is the place to go!
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Priscilla Bedgenat - Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:52:27 EST ID:6rBlQXxE No.33171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Austin's great but it's expensive as fuck to live there.
CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:14:08 EST ID:I3GeC4zn No.33172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't move to Minnesota, at least the northern part. There are already plenty of people with Norwegian ancestry here.
Priscilla Pockstock - Wed, 09 Dec 2015 19:34:31 EST ID:yccj2kTT No.33177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I've started leaning towards the west coast.. Heard it's somewhat cheaper.
you're gonna have to be more specific than that... SF is super expensive, but Portland, OR & Seattle aren't bad compared to other major metropolitan areas.

Same thing on the east coast... NYC & DC are super expensive, but Philly is pretty cheap.

You can get a job in the service industry probably no problem, even if your legal status is questionable...

it probably comes down to what you like to do & figuring out what area supports that. what are you into?
Fuck Fepperstock - Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:49:05 EST ID:e5GN4kbG No.33188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can get an H1-B visa to come work for a Silicon Valley corp if you can program. Otherwise you'll never, ever get a green card unless some major corp sponsors you or you marry an American, and even marrying an American it takes absolutely forever to get the green card the rules are extremely fucked up right now due to 8yrs of congressional dysfunction regarding immigration law.

There may be some student back doors, like if you attended some kind of American school (even a hairdressing school) you may be able to work temporarily for a few months but unlikely.
Betsy Cranderstone - Wed, 20 Jan 2016 04:43:53 EST ID:h0hjdshU No.33352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm looking to move from Sweden to Norway once I get my degree, because you aren't overflowing with immigrants. Would you say that it's a bad choice if my current prospects are safety and isolation?
I'd love to travel and see the world, but I'm going to be in debt for the next five years, what speaks against Norway is that most programmer jobs are probably going to be around Oslo I suppose and you guys are expensive as fuck. I'd probably pay 10x for an Oslo apartment compared to what I'm paying for my current residence.

Winter car question since I'm afraid to leave 420chan by CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:07:25 EST ID:I3GeC4zn No.33340 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It gets pretty cold here so I bought one of those adhesive heating pads that's supposed to go under your oil pan. After warming up the oil, my truck still wouldn't start and sounded nearly dead. It turned out the battery was at fault.

Do you think I would benefit from sticking the heating pad on a metal surface near the battery instead of all the way below the oil pan? When it's on the oil pan I don't think enough heat gets up to the battery region. Obviously I wouldn't stick it directly on the battery, nor would I permanently stick it to any parts of the engine block that get REALLY hot after it's been running. But is there any reason why the heating pad couldn't or shouldn't be adhered somewhere close to the battery to keep it from dying in cold weather?

I've heard some people take the battery out every night and bring it in their homes to keep it warm, but that sounds like too much work.
Rebecca Sillerville - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:59:32 EST ID:hKsRpjiW No.33341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Get a work light and put it in the engine compartment. If 1 doesn't work, use 2 or 3.

2 should work under most circumstances. If propane is liquid then you need 2-3. If propane isn't liquid in ambient temperature you can get away with 2 or less.

Cheapest and easiest way to circumvent such a problem.
Martha Donningtack - Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:56:04 EST ID:PX4tQzkv No.33349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Usual cause of bad starts is corrosion on battery terminals or loose terminals. This causes a voltage.drop and even if it cranks the ECU will not receive enough voltage to fire.

Also the battery needs to be maintained; you can pop the caps off and check the levels, they do lose volume due to electrolysis over time. Finally, drive on the highway for at least 20 min a week to get a good charge into the battery.

Not a huge fan of a surface block heater as they don't conduct heat very efficiently, but only in the most extreme circumstances should the block heater be REQUIRED to crank the motor. Exception is a diesel, they take a lot of cranking power

Moving Countries by Sonic09823125 - Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:47:47 EST ID:EXSGTOz9 No.33330 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So how many people here have actually moved to another country? Why did you? What did it do for you? How long did you stay there or did you go back home? Did you make new friends and adapt to your new city? Was your experience worth it?
I'm considering moving to Toronto from Australia in just over a year when I have the funds to do so. Going there with a bit of money that I could support myself with for a while until I could hopefully find work and if it doesn't work out I could just come home.. So why not right?
Also, how would you describe living in Toronto?
I'd be 23 by the time I go and I live in the land of Aus.
Nell Dorrydale - Sun, 17 Jan 2016 06:54:47 EST ID:aSfSTJNI No.33331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Toronto has a deeply prohibitive cost of living. Everyone's looking for a better place to live and work these days, if you find one let me know

China by Jenny Pallerridge - Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:27:56 EST ID:oLDk6ieK No.33311 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone on here ever lived in China? I've been looking to teach English abroad, and I actually have certifications and teaching experience in the States. So I have more options than most folks. Anyway, I just got an opportunity to teach in Chengdu, China. It would pay about as much as I make teaching public school in the states which is really good for an ESL teacher.

Thing is, not sure how eager I am to live in China. I had mainly been looking at western hemisphere options. Anyone have experience in China? How hard is it for a whitey who doesn't speak Mandarin? People with experiences in southwest China are particularly appreciated, but I'll take anything.

I don't do drugs so the draconian drug policies don't matter. My biggest concern is just how difficult learning Mandarin is. Given that it's a tonal language and how complex the written system is.

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