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Fugitive Travel/Extradition Treaty Status/ACTUAL Risk of Deportation by dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:56:21 EST ID:MKbGqDYo No.35491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hello everyone. I have a loaded question today. For context, this is for US citizens that only possess US passports. We could also talk about other Western countries, but apart from the UK or US I'm not particularly interested.

First and foremost I have never been suspected of any crime, nor is my passport revoked in any way. However, with a combination of the possibility of trumped charges and other concerns within my lifetime, I am heavily interested in discussion the extradition status of overseas countries.

Anyone can use Google to read which countries officially have "no extradition agreement" with the US or the UK.

To assume this as gospel is insane.

I want to hear from people knowledgeable on the issue.

Preferred countries:

>no formal extradition treaty with US (you can leave out countries that have them but don't enforce them; not worth the risk IMO)

>HAVE THE BEST DEPORTATION LAWS.

This is BY FAR the most important apart from the risk of being arrested regardless of treaties.

Does your suggestion have good Visa laws? Which countries offer the longest visas? Which ones actually approve the 10 year visa requests? Are there ways to renew visas and such or will they likely reject everything and attempt to deport you?

>How corrupt are the LEO

This can be good and bad. You may be able to bribe your way out when you otherwise couldn't in another countries, but it's also possible for them to deport you when they legally don't have grounds or a legal justification.

>What countries border the country you suggest? Do these border countries regularly expedite or deport? Is it possible to leave for another country (legally) if the country you're leaving has revoked your visa and wishes to deport you? If not, does the border countries often have weak access points you can get across easily?

>Secondary, how expensive is it to survive in your country suggestion? Is the price worth it?

Thoughts? I want to hear from others before I offer my suggestions.

I'm going to start by saying that Africa should basically be scored off the list unless you're black. Even then, depending on where you go, lighter brown Americans can be spotted from a mile away as well.

I want to make sure I'm not over confident in my selection. It sort of seems obvious from my perspective, but who knows.

Thoughts?

>Bonus points for safe haven countries for connecting flights

I hope to never have to use this knowledge.
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William Fucklefick - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:59:58 EST ID:70Ybgb7U No.35499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I would go to japan..
just don't talk to anyone.
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:12:22 EST ID:Nh1FGi0h No.35517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35499

>worst advice ever

Japan should be avoided for 50 different reasons. Not cheap, xenophobia, way less working opportunities, foreigner demand is higher relatively, and they'll extradite you.

I was worry someone would say Japan.
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Hugh Fallerbodge - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:46:53 EST ID:QoSeJMR3 No.35523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35517

This. Back when there were large communist bloc's you can legit be an enemy of the American state and have governments of atleast 5 countries provide for you and hide you. Cuba let cop killers from America flock. Now it's about where you can lay low the most. Japan is not it. It has to be the third world.
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David Worthingfoot - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:09:42 EST ID:oO/Ttcp/ No.35534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35491
A good, theoretical, starting point would be Afghanistan or the surrounding nations... none of them have extradition treaties with the US, at least.

Vietnam, Cambodia or Indonesia could be good candidates too.

The countries of former Yugoslavia are also somewhat safe.

If you don't want US/UK interference at all(and you're not a woman), Iran could be a good place if you're not scared of getting allahu akbar'd

A better strategy: any country not friendly with US/UK values would probably gladly give you asylum if you got something worth their interest.
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 10:42:36 EST ID:d+ozADsP No.35551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35534

I was thinking Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia simply because there's multiple non-extradition countries that border each other and likely have shitty borders.

It seems like the UAE is the best bet for a connecting flight.

Unfortunately, Thailand does extradite. That fucking blows.

Cambodia would be cheap as shit too. You can live on an island with other foreigners with a maid, private fences and security guards, an unlimited tiki bar every night after sunset, seafood and steak multiple times a week, all for well under $1000/month all included.
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Priscilla Crurrychane - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 19:20:45 EST ID:yxdm942i No.35552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just turn yourself into north korea as a voluntary defector, they will use you as a propaganda icon and treat you well. probably get some NK pussy too
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Terminal - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 01:03:07 EST ID:Kho6uZOy No.35583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35551

Yeah Cambodia would be a good bet mate. Plus there are plenty jobs for foreigners working in bars and such, tourism is a growing industry there. There's this town called Sihanoukville I'd recommend a lot of my friends went there. Just don't get involved with the mafia and have money ready to bribe any police and you'll always be safe.

Also don't go off paths too often or you might step on a land mine
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Rebecca Sinderson - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:32:21 EST ID:Rxjh+Om0 No.35607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35491
Most countries have extradition treaties with the United States.
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Oliver Fisslefurk - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:40:21 EST ID:c3PrwQuO No.35622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35607
Yes but we're not talking about them.
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Archie Nurrywork - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:02:17 EST ID:CSPlhMKv No.35646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35552
This would be a good idea if NK weren't a giant fake potempkin state. It's a shame because I bet it's fucking beautiful there, like the whole nation is a giant nature reserve.
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Cornelius Simbleford - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:47:38 EST ID:FVvEeN+k No.35649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35552
I'm a patriotic American and would bomb NK just to put a smile on gramps' face (and to steal some natural resources! Pillaging good!) but... I mean fuck it man, if you want a free ride, your best bet's to either mooch off the norks, or go kill a bunch of people in swedistan. Either way you'll get essentially a nice hotel room with room service, for life.
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Cornelius Simbleford - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:48:47 EST ID:FVvEeN+k No.35650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35649
But if you go to the NORKs, then you can bring your own console games. The swedes only give you a PS2.
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Barnaby Gibblechedge - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 06:19:47 EST ID:QzoqRps2 No.35653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35607

>Hey guys how do I make a cake without eggs?

>MOST CAEK HAVE EGG!

thank you for your brilliant response
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David Siffinghidge - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:29:51 EST ID:Z6sp4LnV No.35657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
mexico or any central american country, im an expat living in mexico and although i live and work here as long as you're white no one gives a shit, never been ID'ed for any reason ever except for using my Visa card etc, you can lay low here. Plus there are so many americans anyway no one cares
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Archie Dricklestug - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:28:52 EST ID:/verTmXy No.35659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35552
Nah, terrible advice. The norks are actually pretty rough on defectors, don't get me wrong, you won't Otto Warmbier'd but you'll get your shit slapped whenever and your movements will be very limited. Plus your dating pool will just be other defectors and captives, all of whom have worm ass.

And to get to NK, you're going through either SK, Rashka, or Chinamanland. Risky business with all three.
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:52:53 EST ID:IsM4UZH2 No.35671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>35657

>suggests Mexico, a country with extradition treaties to the US

Mexico is a prime example of horrible on paper, decent in reality, until you actually come across the law. Still, I would never risk it knowing they could detain and deport me at any time. Perhaps Mexico would be a good choice if your passport was lost/taken from you and you live in the US, as it shares a land border and it's easy to get across without a passport if you hide in the trunk or otherwise get lucky. Perhaps one could attempt to fly out of Mexico to their final destination, but if you're actually wanted for something serious (not tax evasion or something minor), you could easily be detained and deported in the airport. It seems that traveling further south to an anti-american country that won't deport would be the best bet.

>>35649

>Thread about places to live FREELY outside my country of origin, particularly nice places to live
>Suggests stupid countries and to purposefully go to jail there, aka not being free at all

Are you sure you're posting in the right thread? Just assume for the sake of this thread that you've got at least six figures USD already and you have zero interest in committing violence, more crime, or whatever dumb shit your heart seems to desire for some reason that is derailing the piss out of the thread, lol.

Are there really no better contenders than Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos? It seems like there's no other place in the world without extradition treaties, lax land borders, cheap cost of living, decent enough treatment of foreigners, decently high levels of English speaking, and rather low levels of terrorism/government conflict etc. If one of the three countries decides they want to deport/assist in extraditing you, you can just hop over to another of the three.

I was hoping for actual suggestions in this thread, not suggestions that don't fit the mold within the first 5 lines of the OP. Anyone have experience with the visa process of Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos/possibly Myanmar? That was my biggest question. Which one has the longest visa they casually give out, and which ones are the least restrictive? Basically I'm wondering which visas would allow UK/US foreign citizen to stay indefinitely as long as they "play the game," meaning leave the country and return, or pay continual fees, etc.

Anyone here actually leave their city or country? How about their block?
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William Gunnerstedging - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 18:50:16 EST ID:H/cVVQle No.35672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35671

>being a whiny little bitch when you don't receive ace-level spy advice from a drug board

lol what did you expect?
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Hamilton Pondlelut - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:15:05 EST ID:aJXsZKFF No.35683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35671

how exactly would you get anywhere in an airport if you were wanted to the point where you'd be extradited from a foreign country (you wont even get extradited to counties in the same state for misdemeanor warrants sometimes)? doesn't seem realistic in 2018. your best bet would be south of the border,changing identity.
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:21:41 EST ID:r3TlAfAF No.35687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35683

It's all about the countries you fly out of, and if they assist the US in extradition. Depending on the crime, Mexico would definitely assist them. The obvious answer is to travel by car south through the border, on through Mexico, until you reach another South American country that doesn't extradite (I need to do research, but I'm thinking like maybe...Colombia? Definitely Venezuela for sure?). Then you fly direct into your final destination if possible, or if you MUST do a connecting flight, make sure the connecting country doesn't assist the US in extradition.

The UAE is well known not to extradite, and they're also one of the most popular connecting flight countries. They only issue I can see with SE Asia is a LOT of the connecting flights land in Bangkok first, and Thailand extradites. So yeah, it's absolutely doable, you just can't really show up to the ticket counter saying "I want to pay in cash, one way, and the connecting flight countries need to be so and so," lol.


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