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oh dude I nearly forgot... by Martha Billingbury - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:50:40 EST ID:Doo5Xdg7 No.36667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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...you are the most fun thing on the Internet. Well Done!
Guinan - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 03:47:24 EST ID:7Ps/T3Iu No.36681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thank you for your support hue mon

Robot and AI Rights by Kocoayello !jxaL03vL/Q - Tue, 31 May 2016 02:11:59 EST ID:tTFvrLq3 No.36622 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This will undoubtedly be an issue in the near future, so let's discuss it! Perhaps some starters points:

>What kind of robots and ai deserve rights, or do all of them?
>what kind of rights would they deserve, or perhaps code themselves to ask for eventually?
>What sort of shit could happen if we ignore giving robots and ai rights? Animatrix or Terminator level shit? The horrific carnival scene in Spielberg's A.I.?
>As robots and ai takarjerbs more and more, will the more stubborn humans hate our robot brethren?
>What will the cyborgs say?
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Doris Podgemidging - Sat, 04 Jun 2016 03:54:16 EST ID:hn+zCwtg No.36653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At risk of sounding racist, Black people can't genocide on the level robots could possibly go about it. Who knows they may come out with a rational out look on the who gaining freedom struggle.

It just doesn't make sense to create a machine capable of free though just to enslave it to do the work a non sentient machine could do with out the ethical debate rambling on for 50 years.

Can you justify curtailing the freedom of any entity capable to contemplating existence, music/art, philosophy? No matter the form.
Rebecca Bellyfoot - Mon, 06 Jun 2016 09:06:00 EST ID:8+IygiPP No.36659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>It just doesn't make sense to create a machine capable of free though just to enslave it to do the work a non sentient machine could do with out the ethical debate rambling on for 50 years.


I'd like to add that this whole mysticism about a supposedly randomly "archiving sentience" AI scenario just because it is sufficiently complex is nonsense.
Any system that enables humans to directly invoke the execution of algorithms is by definition a machine and hence just an extension of their cybernetic system.
Phineas Wabblechudging - Mon, 06 Jun 2016 17:30:58 EST ID:hn+zCwtg No.36660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Any system that enables humans to directly invoke the execution of algorithms is by definition a machine and hence just an extension of their cybernetic system.

Though by definition when speaking or interacting with such Sentient AI isn't that still invoking the execution of specific algorithms? At what point does it become an indirect interaction such as how two people interact? How is a direct interaction defined? As in how we directly interact with out PCs today I assume.
Priscilla Drerringbidge - Wed, 08 Jun 2016 03:26:02 EST ID:8+IygiPP No.36665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry yes, how we interact with Software today is pretty much always that way. The reason I mention that is because the false assumption that this has to necessarily drastically change once AI is involved.

Even in the scenario where you had an autonomous robot who's actions are completely controlled by heuristic algorithms that are also created by other heuristic algorithms, and so on at some point you have a set of initial conditions that are set by a human being, the DNA of the AI if you will.
And it's up to the operator to set those conditions in such a way that the result is no harm.

Of course there is the gambit of what if autonomous artificial intelligence outperforms our intelligence. At first this ignores the initial input, which will always be there.
Second I don't think this will be a problem in the sense that is popularized. The reason being that I think argumentation of Human intelligence with AI will come before autonomous AI. (It now does, and there's no reason for this trend to change.)

TL;DR I think we'll become cyborgs come before we develop autonomous AI, staying ahead of the curve.
William Bunville - Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:47:00 EST ID:hn+zCwtg No.36666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also true and proven. Cyborgs exist, they just aren't that good just yet for consumers.

Future Psychedelic Disruption by Winterderp - Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:57:39 EST ID:OgrwG+Hg No.36370 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It is rapidly becoming apparent that research chemicals, new drugs, and old drugs must flow. Governments are failing to stem the tide, and one has even decided to regulate in favor of prohibition.


What will happen when these powerfully mind-altering drugs hit China, in a big way? China, after all, manufactures this stuff (often poorly).

Can a corrupt nation of over a billion keep the status quo? Avoid civil war? Will they create a new society, the likes of which we cannot fathom?

All thoughts encouraged.
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Charlotte Dronningmid - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:40:13 EST ID:OgrwG+Hg No.36454 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I completely agree that Chinese social norms, and the state's ability to harness them (bordering on wizardry), have damned the flow of countercultural thought, music, painting, performance, film, and yes even drug use.

But, about a century or two ago, a great many Western societies also lumped the drug user with the dropout, the bum, the leech and the communist underminer. The US made LSD illegal right quick after it swept up our youth, and studying it went from being the grail of international biochemical academia to a surefire career-ender within 7 years.

New Zealand, who enacted the 2013 Psychoactive Substances Act (which I mistakenly labeled as "in favor of prohibition") that essentially has paved the legal way for selling psychedelics legally, was as small-town provincial judgemental as they came in 1940.

China can't keep the wool pulled over it's people's eyes forever. Where 200 million lived in cities around 1970, over 700 million do now, and they talk. The Great Firewall is bypassed by countless proxies, often given to students by temporary Western teachers. Drugs, once measured in kilograms and used by Chinese to escape their world (let us not forget opium), are now active in micrograms and allow us to see our world clearly.

If even a single kilogram of synthetic 25c, DOM, or other potent research chemical makes it into Chinese streets, there is no telling what can happen to the hundreds of thousands of minds that ingest it. Who will they tell? How many will spread it? It doesn't have to travel far from their own factories after all, and human curiosity is universal.

That said, is anyone here savy on Chinese drug subcultures?
Nicholas Habberchore - Sun, 31 Jan 2016 22:11:06 EST ID:N5AGyHtp No.36462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>More people getting high?
>Less Competition?

Good, it makes life easier for me.
Nathaniel Bubberville - Sun, 22 May 2016 22:07:29 EST ID:iz47yeqs No.36587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>That said, is anyone here savy on Chinese drug subcultures?
they're basically on meth and K
Winterderp - Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:58:11 EST ID:ma7h4f4L No.36644 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I assume meth is mostly for factory work, but what about K? Is it a club drug, solo psychedelic drug, or what over there?
Hannah Grandcocke - Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:46:54 EST ID:5Dthi/sP No.36649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not so sure about meth being a factory drug here. AFAIK meth is used by dirty scuzzy users in cheap clubs and also some of the younger homeless people. K is definitely a club drug, but without the dirty stigma that meth carries. Status-wise, K in China is similar to cocaine in the west back in the 80's and 90's.

Mainstream China is super-dumb about drugs in general. A lot of people here don't know the difference between weed and opium, and see no need to learn the difference. A lot of younger people are more open minded to weed thanks to exposure to Western movies and music, but the majority of them have still never tried it.

Apparently people sell, or have sold, LSD and/or research chemicials through various mainstream online markets using codewords. I've never been able to find anything beyond spice this way. I once found a QQ (like AIM with an accompanying Myspace-like social network) number on a messageboard after several hours of searching for info on LSD in China. It claimed to be a hookup willing to sell LSD through the mail within Mainland China, but I didn't dare actually try and get in touch with the person behind it.

information in BB humans of the future! by Ian Geblingbire - Sun, 08 May 2016 21:14:03 EST ID:pcaoMy8i No.36562 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Molly Sonkinhire - Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:44:53 EST ID:FshaL9X2 No.36632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thanks for that.

High-Tech cynicism by Hugh Worthingridge - Sun, 18 Oct 2015 03:06:13 EST ID:rOr9Te/O No.36392 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So... has anyone else found their appreciation of human accomplishments dulled by the fact that it's something robots could do?

Like, this link was posted by accident in /mtv/ earlier:

Two bros playing electric modern cellos. And they are at the top of their game. The speed! The Accuracy! They are clearly pushing their mastery of their instrument to a limit... it is objectively beautiful...

...if you live in 1800.

It's weird. I feel a definite dichotomy in my brain. I definitely [*[appreciate[/*] what must have been thousands of man-hours it must have taken to hone this craft, this manual skill... and yet, knowing that the same god damn thing can be accomplished with a .flac file kind of makes it seem boring and useless to me. At best it's a hobby, it absolutely should not be something anyone gets paid to do anymore (actually no one should have to work for pay but that's a whole other thread).

I love humans, I love history, I love watching people push their limits... but I feel a sort of depreciation for these kind of things as soon as I see a machine do it. Like the burden has been lifted, so why are you burdening yourself? Is this really what you would have dedicated your lives to if you had known when you started on this road that eventually you would be outpaced by a machine? Was it worth it, wasting what must have been precious hours of your childhood to master a route mechanical skill that robots can absolutely do better than you at?

Like composition is still impressive because there is not yet a digital Beethoven. But instruments? It's honestly more impressive for you to "waste" (other people's judgement, not mine) your time binge watching television and later having a discussion about watching that television, because forming an opinion is still a uniquely human skill (for now).

Anyone else feel this way?
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Winterderp - Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:26:16 EST ID:OgrwG+Hg No.36411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Regarding music and its performance: precision and technical ability will take a backseat to the feelings an instrument, or set of instruments, instills if we view music as a form of communication.

Say we make the following analogy: a cello piece performed live is to a cello piece produced electronically as a live reading of a Shakespearean passage is to the same passage being produced audibly as an amalgam of sampled human voices, stitched together (or a single digital voice, generated from "pure sound"). Though the words of the two passages may be identical, the ideas and feelings conveyed by each piece to an individual onlooker will likely be radically different. I argue the same holds true for the cello pieces.

Perhaps a finer distinction can be made in scrutinizing how a Shakespearean passage is spoken in original pronunciation versus modern English pronunciations; puns, rhymes, and thus perceived meanings will change significantly as the accent of the person delivering each changes.

I believe that the measure of "human accomplishment" is rooted in the individual goals we set for these accomplishments, and thus will only be diminished if the pursuit of this goal is seen as meaningless, redundant, or inefficient. This, in my opinion, differentiates the folly and tragedy of the legendary John Henry of American folklore from a musician mastering antiquated instruments to communicate with others artistically.


Though these two bros may not be consciously communicating with their music, they are inevitably expressing subconscious desires. And this expression and reception can very easily be seen as a form of communication. At least, that is what modern theories of psychoanalysis, surrealism, expressionism, and indeed most of post-modernism tells us...
James Nommlestone - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 19:39:56 EST ID:DWFk1sgt No.36418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Except robots can only do a very very very small number of the things humans can.
Emma Dronnerletch - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:36:44 EST ID:sCrhWtN0 No.36419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For now. We'll see strong AI in our lifetimes. Probably around 2050
Reuben Gummletetch - Fri, 27 May 2016 16:15:07 EST ID:MpJfxK0z No.36594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I cannot imagine a machine that can produce the human sentiment expressed by virtuosos like Paco de Lucia, or Andres Segovia. They can replicate, but not originate, that kind of mastery.
Molly Sonkinhire - Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:34:36 EST ID:FshaL9X2 No.36631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But let's say a bot gathers and learns so much of a certain art and produces it. In of itself that is a sort of originality
with respect to the programmers of course

VR 2016 by Albert Dittinglatch - Sat, 19 Mar 2016 13:50:04 EST ID:40x7YW9B No.36490 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was looking into the HTC Vive and checking out how much a new rig would be to run it and then I realised the release date is nearly upon us and....The dawn of high quality mainstream VR is here!

Paradigm shift or "meh gimmicks plug my spine into tha dataverse."?
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Basil Furryherk - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:22:35 EST ID:rUStfn9r No.36516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's talking about JanusVR by the sounds of it.
Basil Furryherk - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:25:41 EST ID:rUStfn9r No.36517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Isabella Croddledock - Mon, 11 Apr 2016 22:56:43 EST ID:RFlz88Rn No.36522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Paradigm shift or "meh gimmicks plug my spine into tha dataverse."?
Paradigm shift
Beatrice Shakeford - Sun, 01 May 2016 00:44:14 EST ID:hn+zCwtg No.36548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That sounds right.
Basil Girryhat - Wed, 11 May 2016 15:26:15 EST ID:Vx8D/qn+ No.36563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
where's your robot vagina? i thought that was the whole point of this

Couple of cyborg updates by Eugene Dellynene - Fri, 15 Apr 2016 01:15:45 EST ID:88vNctaw No.36530 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Man with paralyzed hands regains partial hands due to nerve implant.

>Enhanced Memory implant moves into human testing.

>Google Glass HUD helping to train autistic individuals to recognize emotions

>Mayo Clinic Surgeons using robotic surrogates to perform surgery with improved accuracy
Ernest Hinningshaw - Sat, 16 Apr 2016 02:49:53 EST ID:PqXFm4TM No.36533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Come on tech.

I need a new right eye so that I can play all the virtual reality video game.

Blade Runner by Graham Dudgeson - Fri, 15 Apr 2016 18:25:29 EST ID:40x7YW9B No.36532 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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"Fiery the angels fell, deep thunder rolled around their shores, burning with the fires of orc."

ITS HAPPENING by Albert Shittingworth - Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:22:48 EST ID:Gq/f/OX3 No.35766 Banned Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's the future!

There are vertical farms
Tesla's car with autopilot comes out this year
Real time speech recognition and translation just happened
There are 3D printers for food
Graphene will be mass producible soon-ish
The first spacecraft to orbit two different worlds, both for their first visits, arrives at the second one in march
There are mentally controlled robotic prosthetics

The future is now! Fucking PARTY!
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Reason: how the fuck did you get to 2015 before us? party in the future!
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Hannah Gemblelock - Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:15:50 EST ID:c9pUasKf No.36416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Graham Poshson - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 22:56:33 EST ID:e9URhAhq No.36466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Caroline Sondledore - Fri, 12 Feb 2016 04:01:06 EST ID:xVKSLbP7 No.36468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>35954 damg nigr my dogs stun me
Jarvis Claywell - Fri, 12 Feb 2016 11:23:37 EST ID:uoHuPBlr No.36469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Future time flies
Doris Clonkinspear - Sat, 09 Apr 2016 11:13:00 EST ID:yM97SQe0 No.36521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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anime will be real in the future so i can smonkw eed with my waifu

Tokyo 2020 by Phoebe Niddlewill - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 12:59:21 EST ID:40x7YW9B No.36518 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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SO Akira got it right.

The Olympics to be held in Tokyo 2020, a futurist city for a futurist age.

Thomas Ponkinture - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 15:17:31 EST ID:vlm/h7br No.36519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's intentional. Have you seen the mascots? They're chibi characters.
The 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics will have an unprecedented weaboo turnout and vendors will make a killing off of Akira/Olympics crossover wall scrolls.
Phoebe Niddlewill - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 16:25:47 EST ID:40x7YW9B No.36520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Im sold

Ominous Lurking by Martin Murringlock - Sun, 31 May 2015 20:12:44 EST ID:FWsHNz7y No.36150 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it just me or does there seem to be a general foreboding like quality to the future in our zeitgeist?
Or to put it another way; does anyone else get a generally bad feeling about humanity's future?
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William Fanfuck - Mon, 14 Mar 2016 05:30:52 EST ID:DafL9sEZ No.36487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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No, that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that.
Polly Greenridge - Wed, 16 Mar 2016 17:04:40 EST ID:hYBrUBlZ No.36488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm looking forward to it
Assumption that history is progressive
Frederick Gigglestick - Fri, 18 Mar 2016 02:38:32 EST ID:hn+zCwtg No.36489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There have been back steps before but look at us now compared to the known past.
Graham Greenstock - Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:45:53 EST ID:Vx8D/qn+ No.36495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
bro you don't even know. we're at the lowest point right now but the fourth age is ending soon
Sophie Fennerlare - Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:20:00 EST ID:b7Np/Dd3 No.36504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What a disgusting link. I had a few good laughs though. The retard being wheeled around for a triathlon made me kek pretty hard.

Dystopian future by Charles Fennerworth - Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:34:32 EST ID:VIGv8Gkr No.36342 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So how's this dystopian future going for you guys?

It's alright for me. I did acid yesterday that someone bought off the internet for the first time. Watched rick and morty's memory parasite episode while tripping.

Smoked weed which is legal here. Fired a gun that I bought from a private dealer a long time ago before it became illegal. But I fired the gun before I was tripping. Not like it would have mattered, it was a low dose and I'm on medications so it was not as strong as it would have been. I jacked off after the rick and morty episode and realized how ineffective our generation must be at breeding or staying motivated because of porn.

In this dystopian future I have a shitload of porn, apparently.

I don't know. This is definitely a dystopian future, but I like it in terms of pleasure. But I'm worried now how easy access to pleasure will affect our next dystopian future. I'm kind of concerned that everything will be run into the ground (trump 2016 and kanye 2020) while everyone thinks that life is a joke and jacks off in a drug-induced haze.

So basically I'm born in a time where I can't explore space, but I can think about it while drugged out. I'm worried that I'm not doing enough to improve life on this planet so that we can leave Earth as well as want to return.

Can we just talk about our current dystopian future and talk about how to make the world better on an individual level to help us get into a better future? This future is fine and all but I don't want the next future to be a worse one.
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Sidney Mabbledene - Sat, 05 Mar 2016 01:44:30 EST ID:j4FLBKgU No.36478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>cherrypicks college liberals as the leading face of equality

These kids exist because of right-wing politics indoctrination centers
Sidney Mabbledene - Sat, 05 Mar 2016 01:58:17 EST ID:j4FLBKgU No.36479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>pretentious twats

you're telling me this guy is not a satire character? you really hang on his words sincerely?
the metairony has gone critically deep.
Isabella Clobblefotch - Sun, 06 Mar 2016 00:02:52 EST ID:hn+zCwtg No.36480 Ignore Report Quick Reply

fuck off.
Nell Blackwater - Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:33:06 EST ID:wB6ODNPj No.36484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Betsy Drangerman - Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:03:09 EST ID:9asHaoEe No.36503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You do realise that what you call SJW's are just called Christian puritan Americunts in Europe?

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