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Why aren't you growing your own? by Priscilla Dibblewell - Wed, 09 May 2018 20:26:46 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4907484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Why aren't you harvesting your own?
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Phineas Hunningstotch - Thu, 10 May 2018 00:16:32 EST ID:8bDgMGTT No.4907504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4907484
if you grow say 1 or 2 plants, what's the average rate of return you can expect to get from them?
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Bob Blunton - Thu, 10 May 2018 02:37:27 EST ID:x4yeAIBp No.4907517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4907505
if you really, really know what you're doing then you can squeeze a whole bunch of ounces out of a 4-footer
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Priscilla Dibblewell - Thu, 10 May 2018 06:08:24 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4907519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4907504
It really comes down to genetics. Cannabis can range from 50cm to 5m, dense or fluffy buds, fast growing or slow growing etc. + growing conditions.

Im growing automatics atm which will get around 60cm tall. I can expect at the very least 15g per plant, 30g if everyone goes perfectly just 2.5 months after germinating the seeds (each seed costs about 5$). Thats PLENTY for me
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Priscilla Pockbury - Thu, 10 May 2018 06:53:45 EST ID:jDnmDx2N No.4907520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TFW growing a leftover seed in a small pot just for fun
It's the cutest little plant, but she's already getting hairy and sparkly as fuck.
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Priscilla Pockbury - Thu, 10 May 2018 10:42:34 EST ID:jDnmDx2N No.4907527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4907526
The four elements of growing plants: Earth, water, sunlight (fire) and clean (AKA no pests/bugs) air.

Seriously though insects are useless assholes. I've come to appreciate spiders a lot more.
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Wade Widdle - Fri, 11 May 2018 02:28:31 EST ID:TXo7cA34 No.4907571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I grow with led, two plans at a time. I usually harvest 3-4 oz per plant, so it is enough to keep me smoking around an oz a week.
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Bongdrop Macgyver - Fri, 11 May 2018 06:37:41 EST ID:8RrP9O1A No.4907575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4907484

I dewwwwwwww
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Jack Wunkinway - Thu, 17 May 2018 04:40:17 EST ID:tHL3HeoX No.4907831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i don't have my own place.
i heard you should basically own yr own house if u grow, bc landlords can get in yr apartment if they want
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Thorsday Cuntmuff - Thu, 17 May 2018 07:26:59 EST ID:vyrF//ay No.4907833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4907622
Alright what do you suggest? I was hoping to get an LED because flir cameras scare the shit out of me
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Angus Tillingwell - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:25:15 EST ID:GZwVoi3T No.4907838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4907831
hello there 16yo
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John Goodman - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:39:36 EST ID:k8R+PKNB No.4907839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cause my maintenance dude would jack it
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Doris Blatherstone - Thu, 17 May 2018 20:09:19 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4907859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4907833
Glad you asked me.

Obviously you want an inline fan, carbon scrubber, ducting, a grow tent, fan and a bubbleponics setup. Probably.

Carbon Filter - 30$
Inline Fan - 20$
Growtent (f.e. Secret Jardin) 40cmx40cmx140cm - 40$
fan - 20$ (If you dont already have one laying around)
Bubbleponics - 10$ (Cant post links, look on 'banggood' for air pump) + netting pots + free bucket + rockwool or similar
Ducting - ?

>Thats 120$ without lights

I bought these and glued them to a scavenged heatsink (CPU heatsink, GPU Heatsinks, or a solid piece of metal with some ventilation (you can blow your fan around this) will do great
1x 100W Warm White LED + Driver (Cant post links, look on 'banggood') 12$
1x 100W White LED + Driver (Cant post links, look on 'banggood')12$
2x 100W Plant Spectrum LED + Driver (Cant post links, look on 'banggood') 25$

>Thats another 50$ for lighting, but you can grow with 200W total too (25$).

You'll also need nutrients. My local stores has a fertilizer solution with every trace element + a desireable npk for just 2$ (Germany only, Aldis "Gardenline Flüssigdünger")


Let me know if I helped you take that next step
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Imahoe Dickweed - Wed, 23 May 2018 22:53:20 EST ID:JwN9Fl78 No.4908179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4907484

I live in an very nice, but older, house. The electrical here is not the best - a breaker blows if I have the AC on for too long. I can't grow outside because I have neighbors on each side, with no fences, so no way of hiding stuff.

Thankfully I live within decent driving distance of a very nice city with lots of choices. So I don't hurt for quality at all, just the growing experience.

I can't wait to get more property out here though. It's gonna be a grow fest!
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Ronaldo McCornCunt - Thu, 24 May 2018 21:38:27 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4908212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908179
Not the best solution but
>Diffusion foil on a window with lots of sun
>Small + low smell strain (blue mystic f.e.)
will give you the growing experience.
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David Bongman - Thu, 24 May 2018 22:26:48 EST ID:SoGfERGF No.4908214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4907484
my housing forbids growing, And I almost lost my housing because they thought I was growing, and it was the neighbor/ scared me shitless
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George Wonningman - Thu, 24 May 2018 22:59:59 EST ID:t1/biBAq No.4908216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4907484
buttrape from big bad bubba. state just voted and said no.
cant move.

fucking bubba man...
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Phineas Tootfoot - Wed, 30 May 2018 11:38:47 EST ID:JSQg79pR No.4908496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908256
>>4908485
how much does the seeds affect the potency? can you make them better through breeding/other factors?
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Phineas Fudgeridge - Wed, 30 May 2018 16:56:30 EST ID:jDnmDx2N No.4908507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4908485
>having unlimited top shelf buds makes it very hard to not blaze all day every day.

Oh noooooooooooooooooo.
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Betsy Fisslelere - Thu, 31 May 2018 00:16:54 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4908522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4908496
Quite a bit. Some strains are more resistant to mold and cold and pests, which is what you'd NEED for outdoors. But under sterile conditions you can grow a plant which has zero immunity but instead focuses all her energy on producing frosty and way too dense buds that would mold in 40% humidity.
And then there are autoflowers which carry a lot of the ruderalis genes which are quite high in CBD but comparably low in thc.

Remember that if you select a strain.

The biggest difference is probably still the high: A silver haze will be very different from a Skunk will be different from a kush will be different from the clone of a polypoid plant ...
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Archibald Limpdicking - Thu, 31 May 2018 01:55:06 EST ID:5VktZqHr No.4908528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908522
What's a good strain for making hash? Looking for a hearty plant that does well outside with 18hrs of sunlight.
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Betsy Fisslelere - Thu, 31 May 2018 02:29:31 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4908529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4908528
Whats your climate. Which continent?
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Pablo clusterfuck - Thu, 31 May 2018 09:51:03 EST ID:i+OG3svu No.4908535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ey guys just curious for some opinions, say I'm using a 450w viparspectra led with the aluminium heat sinks, and growing 4 plants in a tent sized for 5 what would be the average yield you'd come to expect roughly? I've been told that between 0.6g and 1.6 per watt is the range to be aiming for. Pretty wide range admittedly but this is my first venture, so a fuck tonne of good intentions just not alot of experience.. Also any recommendations for decently priced carbon filters?
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Pablo clusterfuck - Thu, 31 May 2018 20:01:09 EST ID:CRcYM3me No.4908548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4907484
Sorry man I knew there was an actual grow column but I couldn't find it
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Cedric Pittford - Thu, 31 May 2018 21:39:25 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4908550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908534
Depends a lot on container size, LST, Strain how optimized your feeding shedule is, type of growing medium, tempereature, air flow, co2 content of your air, tempereature fluctuations, proximity to light etc. etc.
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Cedric Pittford - Thu, 31 May 2018 23:09:27 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4908555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4908551
My man, I'll toke to that. In the meantime look at how much my (OP) plant has evolved
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Girly Sanchez - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:24:10 EST ID:WuxemsiM No.4908604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not really worth the hassle when I have access to $20 ounces
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Derek Dickington - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:25:38 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4908605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908604
damn son you living in Africa or is your best friend a druglord?
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Martha Bizzlecocke - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:38:50 EST ID:jDnmDx2N No.4908609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4908555
That looks beautiful, and not just because you have a good camera.

I jokingly put an old seed in a small pot because my apartment hates plant life, and now it's going to be my first successful harvest. It'll be one of the most memorable grams I've ever smoked.
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Longrod Von Hugendong - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 15:55:47 EST ID:x4yeAIBp No.4908614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908609
nice

everyone see how easy it is to grow your own?
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James Saffingbury - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 16:05:03 EST ID:AOjektSW No.4908616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908609
bro wipe your camera lens, shit looks like a sauna
congrats on the grow tho
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Shawnathon Cuntingfuck - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 19:48:30 EST ID:4h+FB0j/ No.4908625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908617
Unironically circlejerk microgrowery. Full of actually experienced and knowledgeable people.
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Sunny Rapekit - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 00:12:37 EST ID:x4yeAIBp No.4908636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908617
just put the plant into dirt where they'll get sun and water it when it gets too dry
you don't need to bust ass and research for weeks to grow pot, its a really easy to grow plant. tomatoes are more demanding as far as the amount of attention they require.
my first grow ever started like this: me and my crew were smoking in the woods and it was a long time ago so people were still selling seeded bud and thats what we were smoking, so the dude packing the pipe was left with a handful of seeds leftover after the bowl was filled. it was my turn to load and i had the handful of seeds and i decided to put the seeds individually into holes in the ground and wet them down instead of just pitching the seeds on the ground or eating them. smoking in the same park 3 months and spotted a 12' tall flowering pot plant. i hadn't done a thing to help out that plant at all and neither had anyone else. too bad it was a male, but still…
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Phineas Nollkeif - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 01:01:40 EST ID:sNsqs3eC No.4908638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cuz its a felony here and i live in the suburbs

just like 99% of all these other answers if you;re from the US
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Neil Strongweed - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 06:36:22 EST ID:k3zHzSC8 No.4908649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My one-plant grow is harvested and dry enough to smoke now, about 110 grams of a cheese strain. I never tried cheese before and the smell makes me barf. The buds are really frosty and nice looking but I feel like I'm going to get sick of this fucking cheese smell quickly.

That's the downside of growing, you can get bored of your buds after a while. 110 grams is plenty to smoke between grows but it's only from one plant, I'd have to scale up the grow op to get more variety in the harvest and start selling or stockpiling. At least I'm flowering OG Kush now, which I know is a good taste.
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Jenny Nugglemun - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 09:46:30 EST ID:kYboj/oh No.4908767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908522
thanks

I like sativas, a rushy head high is what i wanted.
I live in australia, i think the climate is oceanic/temperate, similar to oregon.
Are there any good places for specific information about strains, like temperature ranges, sun hours?


Im think ill start indoors now, and move them out around September for spring
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Albert Grimshaw - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 02:34:06 EST ID:kYboj/oh No.4908830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908796
cheers man, ill look at it

>>4908825
750kms south from Mullum,

The weather is similar but the weather here is much colder in winter, no snow but there is morning frost here.

I have read about the Mullumbimby Madness, i want to try to get some seeds by spring here, and plant it in the bush.
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Cedric Cleshmetch - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:38:16 EST ID:+QxiNToB No.4908887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That's a fucking great question actually. I have to start saving up some seeds.
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Donald Duckington - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 10:28:44 EST ID:NiCI6/uQ No.4908936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908887
Don't make the bag seed mistake. It cost me nearly a year because only 25% of the plants I vegged out were females- the rest hermies and males. And then only half of the females produced good bud. They are fun alongside good seeds, but a nightmare on their own.

Just buy some buttcoins and get some decent seeds, Seedsman does 25% discount with it for example. Time it right and they'll match your order in free seeds. They sent me
>3x mama Mia
>2x red diesel (Barneys farm)
>2x critical (dinafem)
>2x auto diesel (Royal queen seeds)
>2x cheese xxl auto

All off an order for 6 seeds.
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Phyllis Wibberspear - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 11:48:42 EST ID:hQ7fiSXp No.4908939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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haha why dont you grow your own fam
>posts charlie browns christmas tree
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spagaba !LnYJuVBJck - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 03:29:06 EST ID:hQ7fiSXp No.4908984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908982
I've always been very interested in Grinspoon, never tried it before.
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Violet Stoolbutter - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:26:02 EST ID:Niq2M/dO No.4909037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908995
thanks for the info mate, but i cant really grow big indoors. My idea would be to start it off for 4-6 weeks in a outside greenhouse and then move plants out into the woods.

It is currently winter in my part of the world. I was leaning toward autoflower, because im a lazy cunt. Basically i want to start mid winter, to harvest in the start of spring. Please tell me if this will work with an autoflower? I dont like in a particularly cold part of the world, winter lows are max 0C, but it never snows. I will grow in a greenhouse for the first month (in winter), I will be investing in lights for the greenhouse too and then move them out, they days will be getting much longer and brighter. Will an autoflower still flower? I want to do this because i will also be planting a crop in spring for autumn harvest, so i want the practice + im impatient.

I saved your post, because flipping 2 onces every 2 months is hella good.

>>4909025
apart from their function, whats the difference between, fem, auto and regular seeds.
I've heard that regular seeds done right will have better quality and quantity. Is that correct or only just slightly?
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Nell Clablingfuck - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:05:23 EST ID:TmxHR7Cj No.4909208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909178
I've been growing autos for years under natural sunlight. They all get exactly the same amount of sun with nothing around to cast any shadows across them. They're all in the same type of pot, same soil, same everything.
At the moment I have one that just reached a height of 140cm, while the next tallest is just 70cm.
There's one with about twice the number of budsites than any of the others, and one with just one massive top bud.
You're also growing two autos, I'm growing mine in batches of ten, so the differences between the tallest, smallest, leafiest and skinniest are a lot more obvious.

Where you buy your seeds from does matter, but what country the seeds came from often matters more than the cost when it comes to genetics. I buy almost exclusively from Sensi now, who do produce seeds with a lot more genetic variation than most American and Spanish seed banks due to the five plant restriction in the Netherlands being enforced a lot more than just a few years ago. But back when I was buying from Royal Queen I'd see the same thing, lots of variation between each plant, if not a little less extreme than Dutch seeds.
But even when the genetics were a lot less varied, you'd still clearly see the differences between each plant after about a month, and once they were close to harvest, you'd see some with buds that look like they've been dunked in sugar and others that just look like they've been hit with some morning frost.

Again, the potency argument is really just a myth. Autos appeal to new growers who often just apply what they can find online about regular plants to autos, not realizing that they're a lot more temperamental towards everything from watering and nutrients, to growing environments and temperature. So of course autos are going to produce less trichomes or a lower THC content, most people aren't willing to babysit them every day. But if you're doing everything right, and still getting substandard bud from a few plants, it's really just down to bad luck.
I've grown both autos and regular seeds, and there's honestly no difference in potency.
I also kiss my plants each night before to bed, so that could just be the secret sauce.
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Hannah Hottingsadge - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:14:12 EST ID:nFwe5zV0 No.4909220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909208
>spreading potential sources of leaf spot to your plants ever
The human mouth is one of the grossest things in existence and our bite is often fatal to an animal due to all the bullshit we eat.
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OP - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:59:09 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4909226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909208
>My plants are all different.
I know the rules of genetics, automatics are not magically different. Your breeder is lazy (and probably cheap af)

>What country your seeds come from does matter
Only if they were breed and selected outdoors.

> Again, the potency argument is really just a myth.
No sorry it's not. You always get SOME of the Ruderalis genetics while crossing for the automatic gene. Ruderalis was originally a HEMP plant. Thats like crossing og kush with 0,1% THC Hemp and not expecting a drop in potency...

>I've grown both autos and regular seeds, and there's honestly no difference in potency.
Let them get tested in a lab, it'll tell you what I just told you.

>Autos need a little love too and they will produce a potent OZ
Yeah


>>4909220
Did your parents forbid you to kiss the cat?
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OP - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:44:19 EST ID:Xf/5iksA No.4909241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909232
Interesting fact about the dutch breeders. I don't see why you must debate that crossing a low potency strain with a high potency strain generally results in lessened potency.
Smoke some, chill out
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Lucy Steamcunt - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 21:52:40 EST ID:NiCI6/uQ No.4909315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909311
>She gets put on a windowboard to finish under 16/8 sun light, first month is indoor with minimal space. Thats why i need a small sativa to lst. A big bush would immediately throw red flags.
Thats why it has to be an auto.
Try the seedsman sour diesel haze auto or shop around for one that may finish a bit earlier. LST still won't increase your gain necessarily since you have no control over flowering and thus will need to time trimming perfecting with a strain you have never worked with.

Another benefit of an auto with good genetics is it should be resilient to various light cycles, but I would still recommend some small CFL or LED go over it.
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Caroline Hobblekeg - Sat, 16 Jun 2018 04:41:22 EST ID:CZ0i5FJd No.4909330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909279
Try reducing the size of the pots and just increase the number of plants. It may lower your overall yield per plant, but it's a pretty solid method to keep things under control. Royal Haze is a good strain to go with, they have a somewhat low potency but are one of the faster growers.
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Phoebe Nollyway - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 00:29:14 EST ID:GF1PtmF7 No.4909374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909367

This. I've only grown once, and it was a crash course lesson thrust upon me, and I didn't top or LST any of my plants.

If I grow again I'm going to top my plant(s) twice so that each plant has four main colas. Then I'll LST the colas outward from the center like a plus sign, one in each cardinal direction, so I'll have four massive colas per plant instead of one big one with some smaller branches here and there.

LST is what's used when people do SOG, or "sea of green," grows. This is when you top your plants 2-3 times to allow for each plant to have lots of main colas, and then make a grid of string about 9-12 inches above the base of the plant stems, and as the colas grow, push the colas below the string grid so that the colas grow horizontally, and all of the small branches grow vertically, producing dozens of huge branches of buds from a single plant. One plant will make a sea of green, so to say.
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Connor Brapsack - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 04:43:54 EST ID:JSQg79pR No.4909380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909367
Yo, i dont really understand how LST is different to topping. I mean your just training the forking branches after a topping to spread out more yes?


Would it be unwise to top a auto-flower? If you topped it and the doesnt have enough time to grow in vege stage would the harvest be less as a result.

Also another question with autoflowers, can you buy seeds that will tell you 8 weeks vege and then 4 weeks flowering. Are autos accurate with their flowering?
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Wesley Greenwill - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 06:29:02 EST ID:K60ZzRVD No.4909383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909380

LST is just tying down branches to keep them lower / away from the light. It also allows more light to hit more budsites and improves yield alot.

Don't top autoflowers they're on an internal timer and it will ruin yields.

Most autoflowers I've grown that claim to be ~8 week finishers actually take ~12 weeks, they spend around 4/5 weeks in veg then flower for what I've found to be a normal length flowering period. Depends from strain to strain and from plant to plant.
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Rupert Tacklestock - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 06:33:07 EST ID:pG19ksk2 No.4909384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4908605
the pacific northwest is a beautiful place
I dont have to grow when everybody else on my street is
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Connor Brapsack - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:09:50 EST ID:JSQg79pR No.4909388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909383
yeah sweet

imma just start an auto up in the next couple of weeks for a go
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Nigel Fipperson - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 05:07:36 EST ID:Zlqz6tpT No.4909475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4909383
To be exact LST (low stress training) is not just tying the plant down so it gets more light, its tieing the plant down so the side buds get more light. This way instead of having one huge main top bud you get a few, medium sizex big buds which increases yield significantly.

Mostly used in auto plants since HST (high stress training) which is more efficient isnt a viable option


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