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WAIT A SECOND..... by Blue Magic !y8NpJNxLNk - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:35:55 EST ID:AJfQ/nYm No.4354420 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>John Cena has no opponent for WrestleMania
>Daniel Bryan has no opponent for WrestleMania

Is... is the dream still alive /wooo/?
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Nasty Brian Knobbs - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:11:33 EST ID:muLirbkX No.4355365 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Bryan doesn't have a match at Wrestlemania
>Stone Cold Steve Austin doesn't have a match at Wrestlemania

Is... is the dream still alive /qppp/?
Junkyard Dog - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:13:43 EST ID:mJhDNprQ No.4355368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You say that, I had genuinely hoped Bryan might fight Rock this year
C.W. Anderson - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:19:52 EST ID:SF+jcKTJ No.4355371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Implying that would be better than Bryan/Brock for the title.
Justice - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:37:35 EST ID:YGBDCLB8 No.4355384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who the fuck wanted Reigns in the main event? They wanted Bryan vs Lesnar.
Hah. This isn't 1992.
To anyone. It's a complete filler match to get some guys on the card they have no plans for, including their most over babyface who main evented last year and given his popularity should not be lower than the 2nd or 3rd match from the top.

Roman Reigns is like Matt Morgan by Mr. Fuji - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 02:35:14 EST ID:53eXlXXE No.4355059 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Vince McMahon likes to assume he can sculpt "The Rock" outta Roman Reigns despite the fact Roman can't come close to a reaction as Dwayne can get

Everyone on /wooo/ likes to compare Reigns to Nash or Goldburg who learned to get past their limitations AND cuts better promos circles around Reigns as well

If you want an accurate comparison to Reigns it be Matt Morgan

>Shit promos
>Shit in-ring
>Thinks he's hot shit

They also both stutter a lot
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Elix !R4PR17xJ8s - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 07:58:09 EST ID:37BxBLmA No.4355354 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Goldberg - Regal took him to task to show everyone just how much ring ability he (doesn't) have
>Morgan - You haven't watched TNA, have you?
>Nash - You are a mark
Caprice Coleman - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:10:47 EST ID:ZEtR2pGK No.4355364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Matt Morgan is shit in the ring? I always thought he was a decent big man wrestler.
Junkyard Dog - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:14:44 EST ID:mJhDNprQ No.4355370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Better than Reigns.

Probably bigger too.
Scott Lost - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:20:37 EST ID:j2viNntX No.4355373 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If my pretty okay memory of RKK is anything, I think he's all right. People have his infamous match against Crimson burned into their brains though.

He's not particularly bad and I think his theme kicks serious ass.

I guess the same can be said of Reigns, but Reigns was not a former Indian Heavyweight Champ. Nor was he Venom.

Your Face If... by Spode !U4fi6zQLyI - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:09:14 EST ID:p9dFl7r2 No.4355119 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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> Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar, WWE World Heavyweight Championship, WrestleMania 31.
> Triple H comes once Brock is about the win.
> Pulls the reference out of the ring.
> "What the hell? The COO has just pulled the official out of the ring!" exclaims Cole.
> Brock looks confused and goes for an F5.
> Triple H counters and hits Brock with a pedigree.
> Roman Reigns goes for the cover.
> Triple H calls down a new official.
> The ref counts the 1... 2... 3...
> Stephanie walks down to the ring.
> The Authority raises the hand of the new champion, Roman Reigns as he smiles in victory.
> Next night on Raw, Triple H announces the new golden boy of The Authority and the WWE to be Roman Reigns.
> Seth Rollins and J&J Security come out.
> Rollins is upset about The Authority possibly replacing him.
> Triple H orders Reigns to attack Rollins saying that he was done.
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Jessica Love - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 06:58:21 EST ID:T6zrpOdi No.4355303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess I worded it badly but I'll try to explain why I said it like that. There was this hulu ad that wwe runs, where at the end the guy says "I'm not a wrestling fan, I'm a wwe fan". I was just trying to say that basically I feel like the opposite of that. I never got swept up in the boycott stuff, in fact I find it amusing because most of the time it's just giving them extra attention. I just love wrestling, and am super dissapointed (maybe hate was a strong word) with all the potentially awesome stuff they could be doing.
Super Crazy - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 07:48:49 EST ID:ZfcGzZqP No.4355344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But isn't that a little like the 2001 Wrestlemania when Stone Cold had his terrible heel turn into the Invasion angle?
KENTA - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 07:58:34 EST ID:OR3Nqppl No.4355355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That would be a terrible way to turn Seth face, he'd still look like an asshole

If anything he should take what Jon Stewart said to heart and end up saving Dean or something like that, followed by a Roman betrayal
C.W. Anderson - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:09:09 EST ID:SF+jcKTJ No.4355361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Lesnar is about to win
>Heyman distracts him in the corner
>Heyman points to the other corner and Reigns is running at him for the spear
>Lesnar looks overjoyed as Reigns wins the title
>The two smugly walk off
>Rollins' theme plays and he either cashes in then or teases it as they run off

"You know it's fake, right?" by Joel Maximo - Sun, 01 Mar 2015 13:35:29 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.4350660 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why is this always the first thing out of a non-fan's mouth upon finding out that you watch wrestling? Do they expect that the answer would actually be "no" and their planned follow up is "oh boy, I'm about to blow your mind!"?

If I'm sitting down reading a fantasy novel, nobody comes up to me and goes "you do know that Middle-earth isn't a real place, right?"

If I'm watching old episodes of Breaking Bad, nobody tells me "hey, don't you know that that guy isn't ACTUALLY cooking meth? He's an actor called Bryan Cranston and he's only pretending because that's what actors do."

Why is pro wrestling to my knowledge the only form of entertainment that to this day immediately has people assuming that you're either a complete imbecile or legit mentally handicapped if you happen to be a fan, as if that is the only possible justification for enjoying it? It's 20 fucking 15.

Is it due to the faux-sports nature of it that somehow makes it impossible for people to comprehend that you can watch and enjoy it with a willful suspension of disbelief much like you would with any other work of fiction?
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Finlay - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:53:40 EST ID:2u0Zfq7g No.4354772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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As long as this is the policy, can they please introduce an atomweight division so I can get more Michelle Waterson on my TV?
Blue Panther - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:14:05 EST ID:+3NaQheP No.4354933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not exactly, most of the insults, to any intellgence have to do with debates about wrestling philosophy and or knowledge that would come with familarity with wrestling.

Some of the things we think are brilliant will be criticized for actually being in poor taste, paul heyman insulting lillian garcia to a non-fan why would you watch that.

AJ styles cashing checks breaking necks, THATS OUTRAGEOUS its fucking despicable.

I remember watching the chris benoit dvd back in 2004, and learning the origin story of the crippler, and admiring how they took a real disaster and out of created a mystique, found a way to bring that into the narrative.

I recieved a severe moral lecture from my sister who sat out of view from the television getting actually angry, about this exploitative sport and how terrible it was.

She was actually legitmately concerned i was going to hell. Not literally, but she was sad and shocked.

There probably not going to get excited when things are working, and most likely not even like it when its working on them.
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Shane Storm - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:01:22 EST ID:7SX/123O No.4355358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> I'm just curious about the reasons why this is still the reaction people have.
People like being able to be smug about something. And be perceived as smarter than the unwashed masses.

It's retarded. But those who think that also think that you are too stupid to realize that its not 'real'.

But if someone actually starts with the "you know its fake...", just lay on the sarcasm. Really ham it up. To the point that unless they got a mental illness, its obvious your mocking them for their smugness.

They tend to get pissy at that point.
Shane Storm - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:11:34 EST ID:7SX/123O No.4355366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Dwayne Kennedy

>he ranked soccer as being shit
Because it is shit.

Did you start jacking it to Bryan then and there? Or did you wait till you got home?

A Subject is Required When Mania Card Rolecall by Norman Smiley - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:03:58 EST ID:RK7cogtn No.4354792 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So here's what we're pretty much going to get at Mania and what's going into each:

>WWEWH Brock Lesnar (c) (w/ Paul Heyman) vs Roman Reigns
Lesnar's motivation level may be in question, but it seems to be above WM20 by a bit at least, and Heyman is definitely on fire going into this. Roman's definitely able to match his opponent, so it all depends on Lesnar's mood, I guess. I think Roman is getting a little better over time, though, though not fast enough. Should be around ***1/4.

>Triple H vs Sting
Needs No Holds Barred to be good and so they can do the Sledge vs Bat thing again. If so, yeah, it'll be an okay *** brawl between two men whose combined age exceeds 100. Haitch's promos about control and shit have been pretty good though.

>Bray Wyatt vs The Undertaker
Seems like they're going to do a Casket match, which would make sense given it's probably Taker's retirement match. I think Bray's been cutting some of his best promos over the past month or so, and if he's been or going to plan the match out with Taker beforehand it'll be a solid spectacle match that puts Bray over as the new spooky dark magic guy. I'm looking forward to it.

>IC Title Ladder: BNB (c) vs Dolph Ziggler vs Daniel Bryan vs Dean Ambrose vs Luke Harper vs R-Truth
Basically a MitB away from MitB, but I'm excited for it. This match is a crazy cartoonish clusterfuck with segments to match, what with the hot potato they're playing with the belt. It's making the title feel real important, honestly, and I think that Dean or Bryan (honestly the only two guys who are likely to walk out champ) will be able to make the title feel prestigious, Bryan especially.

>US Title: Rusev (c) (w/ Lana) vs Shin Jhon
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Recon - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 06:24:51 EST ID:bHI81lXn No.4355284 Ignore Report Quick Reply

They're also probably going to put Stardust/Goldust in the Battle Royal to save time, and give them a similar post-Mania blowoff. They haven't done more than 8 matches on the main card since WM26.
Olimpico - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 07:06:47 EST ID:IObNHzEV No.4355312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
XX was pretty good overall, definitely top5.
Unless you just mean with respect to lesnar's match.
Vince McMahon - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 07:13:08 EST ID:LFijfug3 No.4355319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>WWEWHC Brock Lesnar (c) (w/ Paul Heyman) vs Roman Reigns
>Should be around ***1/4
na not happening lets look at the meltzer ratings lesnars last 3 wm matches

>vs goldberg *1/4
>vs triple h **1/2
>vs undertaker *1/2

if you really think it will be better than these matches i have some news for you
snadman - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 07:16:28 EST ID:CcJRU1Zx No.4355322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cena vs Rusev: anywhere between three and four stars just for the spectacle of teh unbeatable John Cena having a horrible time and actually having to wrestle properly
everything else: lol out of five stars

Deathmatches by El Santo - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:32:31 EST ID:dabxwo0D No.4354982 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can someone explain to me the appeal of deathmatch wrestling?

I just don't see why people like it and I'd like to hear some opinions as to why.

To me, it's lacks pretty much everything that I find entertaining in a wrestling match. There's no finesse, rarely is there much story telling and technical skill is completely foregone for the sake of swinging an object at someone.

So for fans of deathmatches and other similar types of wrestling, why do you enjoy it?
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snadman - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 04:04:19 EST ID:CcJRU1Zx No.4355200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I certainly agree that the 90s were the peak deathmatch era. BJW survives, of course, but as crazy as they get with the props and the bloodletting, there's no real drama to their deathmatches and the crowd even seems to treat it all as comedy. Pair that with internet teens everywhere deciding that edgy = bad and it's hard to see this type of wrestling resurfacing any time soon.

...but back in the day, FMW, ECW, IWA and so forth were putting on the most compelling matches possible, their wrestlers eliciting more emotion than Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada/Taue could draw. A lot of what happened in those rings was still terminally stupid and could look like unskilled labor, but people were forming these sympathetic connections with wrestlers like Onita and Cactus which seemed to transcend snowflakes.
Andy Ridge - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 04:08:57 EST ID:ybJ04Fdd No.4355208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah your point about how the BJW crowds are treating deathmatches this day is sadly true, if you listen to the crowds at this point they seem to perceive it as a comedy thing or they react with pure boredom. They will do german supplexes through glass panes spots that will get absolute silence as a reaction sometimes.

The regular heavyweight stuff is what gets the most heat on the shows and probably what's getting them the most critical acclaim at this point, i see multiple BJW Strong matches being called MOTY contenders since 2012 but at the same time you rarely see these BJW big time deathmatches being praised in the last few years.
BlazingRush !8NBuQ4l6uQ - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 05:10:49 EST ID:liSTHFIs No.4355249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>there's no real drama to their deathmatches and the crowd even seems to treat it all as comedy.

Someone hasn't watched BJW in ages. Kobayashi/Kodaka had me on the verge of tears, and whenever Miyamoto gets in the ring you KNOW you're going to see the best in their trade.
Antonio Honda - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 05:45:29 EST ID:CA3Tg/Fu No.4355271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My deathmatch viewing is limited, but every time I watch some BJW even with the tube bros, I am so much more entertained than when CZW tries to do it. Hell even I watched Ryuji Ito vs MASADA and I watched the whole thing. BJW knows how to work tension, how to work spots and progressing through one spot after another rather than just doing a spot for the sake of trying to get a momentary pop. Maybe its also because of how neatly elaborate their setup is, especially if involves light tubes and light tube props. There is story telling and not just being a spot monkey working a death match.

I don't understand 'hardcore' wrestling fans by Akeem - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 02:06:20 EST ID:CYx3VrTV No.4355016 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you look at the communities around the internet comprised of hardcore fans of a particular medium or genre, it is common that most people within the community will shun and exclude the biggest and believed-to-be most terrible products of the medium. A community full of avid TV enthusiasts, for instance, will consider those who watch something really popular, yet terrible, such as the Big Bang Theory, to be beneath them and will ostracize those who like it from the community. If you go to a community full of ardent anime fans, such as /a/, you'll see an incessant rejection of what is considered to be an attractor of the lowest common denominator in Naruto. You'll see the same thing with hardcore movie fans, who despise 'capeshit' and generic run-of-the-mill summer flicks despite grossing exorbitant sums of money at the box office. You'll see the same thing with die-hard music fans, who typically always look past the pop mainstream and into far more obscure stuff, often from other countries or times than their own.

Why is it, then, that when you go to any of the largest English wrestling-related communities on the internet, including this one, the discussion is predominately fixated on the WWE? Like the aforementioned products that garner such derision amidst their respective communities, the WWE is the biggest of its domain, but many consider it to be failing. Yet despite this perception of it being a poorly-performing great power of the wrestling power, the hardcore fans not only consider to watch and discuss it, but defend the fact that they do on the grounds that it is essentially the only game in town, despite there being a number of legitimate alternatives, with the chasm between the WWE and indy promotions or foreign promotions being relatively no greater than between the works of a mainstream musical act and one from an obscure indy label, yet whilst music fans have no problem with engaging with the smaller work over the bigger, wrestling fans seem to.

Why do you think this is? Who are hardcore wrestling fans, who openly revile the WWE and its practices, still engaging with it to a much greater degree than a community of ardent fans would typically engage with the "big ba…
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'Murican Dragon !En5AuOQ.g2 - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:36:39 EST ID:wb1v4jPl No.4355164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Exactly, it's the system. Too many cooks, all of them bad at what they do.
Krong - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:41:06 EST ID:R+iqiBCk No.4355171 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Then I never watch again. And that's not a bad thing, there's great promotions out there like PWG, Lucha Underground, NJPW and so many more that didn't quite hit that sweet spot for me, at least thus far. Wish more people would do the same.


They cut me down throughout 2014, almost quit watching entirely a few times, but in the end the booking of Bryan and Ramen since their comebacks was what broke me completely.
Rocco Rock - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:50:04 EST ID:tmso29+s No.4355182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think WWE is for the most part, garbage right now. But it'd be a lie for me to say that there aren't parts I still find entertaining.

WWE programming is on the level of Law and Order SVU to me now. Which is to say that it's background noise. It's good background noise for while you're doing something else.
snadman - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:54:50 EST ID:CcJRU1Zx No.4355189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A lot of wrestling fans subscribe to that Nash/Hogan/Snow mindset where popularity literally equals quality because quality in their eyes is all about what brings in money. Once those self-same idiots realize that the UFC has a superior money-making method paired with incredibly cheap production costs and a wide range of immediately available fighters from all over the world, who each have the natural charisma that *actually being in a fight* lends to any athlete, they will probably sod off and leave us alone. [%]

what was the best decade in wrestling history by Andy Ridge - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:28:55 EST ID:ybJ04Fdd No.4354971 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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what was it ?

i'm going with 85 through 95
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Sonic - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 02:59:57 EST ID:Wu7JRv53 No.4355102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll take 1996-2006. I get the Attitude Era and the good Ruthless Aggression years.

>Wrestlemania 21

How. Orton/Taker was good. The 1st Money in the Bank was amazing. Batista/HHH and Cena/JBL were both average. You're retroactively hating it because you don't like what happened afterwards.
Andy Ridge - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:07:05 EST ID:ybJ04Fdd No.4355115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
on top of my head you had some of the southern brawlers like Terry Funk, Hansen and Bruiser Brody becoming big time mainstream japanese stars
mixed with that their was always a constant flow of new and fresh gaijins from everywhere in the NWA territories
you had the New Japan exodus to AJPW through the mid-80s that gave the fans some dream matches and some big time programs stemmed out of that like Chosu & Yatsu vs Tsuruta & Tenryu
Tiger Mask II becoming Misawa
In the late 80s you had Jumbo unlocking the veteran power and having a great ''aging old guy trying to keep himself on top'' run putting over Misawa in the process
then through the early 90s you had the whole King's Road stuff before it became ''lol the same 6 guys against each other for a decade'' (match quality was still good)

maybe the poster in question can/will precise more, but those are some great historical points to prove the greatness of that era for sure
Andy Ridge - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:08:54 EST ID:ybJ04Fdd No.4355118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Funk was a big star a little before that, yes. before someone calls me out on it.
Cherry - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:05:38 EST ID:Dc9K24Sv No.4356774 Ignore Report Quick Reply

No, I watched it live with a friend and we both actually fell asleep during it. I rewatched it afterward and I still hated it. The opener with Rey & Eddie was ruined by sloppiness due to Rey's shitty mask almost falling off constantly and the two world title matches were boring and painfully obvious beforehand that Cena and Batista were winning. MitB was alright, and Angle-Michaels is great on its own, but at the time I couldn't give a shit about it because everything else around it was shit. I didn't like the Orton-Taker match, either, and the rest of the card is completely forgettable to me. Wrestlemania 21 is my most despised Wrestlemania because of how disappointing it was.

Reality Era by El Santo - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:07:02 EST ID:dabxwo0D No.4353816 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just a reminder that the first truly big event to happen in the Reality Era is for WWE to tell fans to quit their bitching and stop deluding themselves into thinking that they had any real say in how things are run.

Essentially bringing the fans back to reality after thinking that their voices mattered.
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Swerveface !dm/94AmvDQ - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:05:45 EST ID:6xVMX6iD No.4354901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shut the fuck up if you don't have any proof. Funnily enough some prick thought it was great to impersonate me on the boards lately.

I don't give a fuck about Punk. Let go of him already, he's done with wrestling. Enough already.
Hiroshi Tanahashi - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:09:33 EST ID:TJjxCQwr No.4354917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol, are you serious?
Only one person could dislike this man? sounds like a cockspiracy
El Santo - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:21:49 EST ID:dabxwo0D No.4354954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>implying more than one person can dislike our Lord and Savior, CM Punk
Todhaseo - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 02:00:01 EST ID:YRdaJos2 No.4355009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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10 MORE YEARS OF CENA, OR 10 YEARS OF REIGNS? by Isis The Amazon - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:15:38 EST ID:ujPW0NVp No.4354077 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ricardo Rodriguez - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:25:53 EST ID:c6TqtScj No.4354966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We DO want a new top guy. That guy should actually be good, though.
SpearCopeland !IzZEKRSlSE - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:27:26 EST ID:HyGS539h No.4354969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. Cena's too good for the company to say get rid of him completely.

Reigns is at least a new guy and has limitless potential. JR said it best though, potential dont pay the rent.
Todhaseo - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:52:59 EST ID:YRdaJos2 No.4355004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At least cena can dedicate to have a good match while roman can't.

Blue Panther - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:55:15 EST ID:+3NaQheP No.4355006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fucking jr costantly burying the big show with that line, while simultaneously putting him over with it as well.

YES YES YES. NO NO NO. by Old Bull Lee Ray !UtAPOuT/pg - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:31:39 EST ID:GTSroiS/ No.4354711 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Since he's getting his own special and all, can we talk about the best dressed man in the WWE, Booker T?

Thoughts? Favorite memories? Should he have been bigger in the WWE? Should WCW have capitalized more on GI Bro?
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Drox - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:08:19 EST ID:hD/nhW2n No.4354796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Harlem Heat was my fav tag team back in the day, also loved his singles run in WCW. Never cared for WWE gimmicks (Like King Booker) but that was around the time I quit watching for awhile. Nowadays I do enjoy his commentary, more than King or JBL.
Terri Runnels - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:12:43 EST ID:CsKf49go No.4354807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What's the WWE take on when he won the WCW World Title? I loved it and it was a real feelgood moment, I'm guessing that it's downplayed by the revisionist history machine.

I liked his title defense against Lance Storm too, as it was when Storm had all the belts except big gold.
Mentallo - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:19:32 EST ID:DPJgd1jf No.4354823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think he's actually underrated as a wrestler. He never put on any truly five-star classics, but he held his own with Benoit in that Best-Of-Seven-Turned-Eight series in WCW (and later in WWE), and I can't recall him being part of a shitty match where the match quality was primarily his fault.
Kevin Steen - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:25:01 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.4354836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just watched the WWE Network Monday Night War series. They way they spun WCW putting the belt on guys like Jarrett, Booker, Steiner, DDP, etc towards the end of WCW was basically "good for them, but the only reason they were champion was because they couldn't trust guys like Hogan, Nash, Goldberg, etc to job"

Attitude Era episodes of Raw now on the WWE Network by Mean Smark Callous - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 12:42:10 EST ID:5Ip8qwzW No.4352606 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Not all of them, mind you, but the most memorable ones from 1998 and 1999 are there.

Now you can enjoy moments like The Undertaker trying to marry Stephanie McMahon, Mankind's "This Is Your Life" segment about The Rock, "Bedpan McMahon", Mankind winning the WWF Championship for the first time, etc., all in crystal clear quality on the WWE Network for only $9.99!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to finish watching the post-WrestleMania 14 episode of Raw.
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Terry Funk - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 19:02:12 EST ID:vY08I2Tx No.4353610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got an idea... Every week or so at random times during the night they do some weird divas block for 15 minutes. Something along the lines of like that Punk video where they kept zooming in on his ass.

Just zoom-ins on asses/tits, slow motions and piecing in unedited wardrobe malfunctions for split seconds and make it seem like an error when this 15 minute block happens, and don't archive it. That would generate some buzz.
Eric Bischoff - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:20:37 EST ID:h+2oOOml No.4353858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is a good idea. You are a genius, brother.
Kevin Steen - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:50:03 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.4353992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WWE's been trying for years to make the Diva's more than just swimsuit sluts and a better role model for the young female fans. They're not going to throw that out the window so you can jack off.
Cody Deaner - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:43:41 EST ID:szB90ZDA No.4354750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jacking off is more popular than having a role model. How many times does the whole world jerk off daily? How many role models does the world make daily?

Jerking off=ratings

AXELMANIA by hi - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:36:53 EST ID:r9HOlJR1 No.4354169 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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SpearCopeland !IzZEKRSlSE - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:24:30 EST ID:HyGS539h No.4354684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Like Mizdow. Which is good.
Now there's a good point. If #Axelmania turns out like Mizdow, then we have something. But Axel's got to go 100% into it. Can he, or will he is the question.
Colin Mochrie - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:28:35 EST ID:YFmw57gh No.4354698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ODB - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:29:45 EST ID:e+UH/Yvy No.4354704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think this is the truth of it. I've always been a believer that there's a character that works for everyone. "Delusional jobber who sucks but thinks he's the best thing ever" just works for Axel.
Beth Phoenix - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:40:17 EST ID:D7PqGS5R No.4354740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So he's current Bo?

Titty Sprinkles by Giant Bernard - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 18:00:48 EST ID:A9tT/vkN No.4353412 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The beat match HHH ever had was against Taka Michinoku. Prove me wrong.

Protip: You can't
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:49:37 EST ID:Id+1RLbM No.4354500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
and Sasuke didn't want to drop the title either. But Taka has definitely had a good career.
Teddy Hart - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:50:59 EST ID:H8Z0z4+k No.4354506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not surprising, the M-Pro Kai En Tai guys are probably the greatest cruiserweights of all time. Togo, Teioh and Taka especially.
BarackSays !okVe3kdtbU - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:51:57 EST ID:9KlBn+1x No.4354513 Report Quick Reply

Match against Shawn for the WHC on the last RAW of 2003, forgotten classic.
Santo !Pc20GIa3Nc - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:32:02 EST ID:tvFlFV9h No.4354714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It didn't really help the WWE when JR didn't recognize who Sasuke was, especially since he had a stack of Japanese wrestling mags in his office. Sorta bruised Sasuke's ego.

What's the scenario you most want? by Justice - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:52:38 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.4354246 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's the main event of Wrestlemania 31 and Brock is leaving WWE...what do you want to most see happen>

>A. Brock is a complete professional who honors his contract and works the match that was laid out by agents that puts Roman over. It's just a meh match that's designed to follow the formula of keeping Roman strong. Crowd is anemic like the end of Wrestlemania 29. It's the same old shit but there's no PR disaster.

>B. Brock is mentally checked out and pulls a WM20 all over again. The match really sucks and Brock looks like an asshole for not even trying for the paying fans. It's a real bad PR black eye for WWE and their box office.

>C. Brock knows his personal brand needs to be kept strong and he needs a lot of pop culture momentum in his return to UFC. He needs to project the aura of a BEAST. As such, he goes into full "get my shit in" mode. He works Roman like its Summerslam 2014 all over again. He only sells for the planned finish (a Superman punch/ Spear combo) but its shittiness is magnified because Reigns has not been able to look credible at all. Reigns' moment is ruined, and it's full on LOLWWE. Brock is hilariously DGAF although he does spit on the concept of doing business.

Which scenario do you most want to see?
Which scenario do you think is best for business?
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STIGMA - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:22:31 EST ID:ueO0Oioy No.4354673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would love to see Brock just shoot break Romans arm, roman gets the punch spear combo, Brock just stands up, laughs, then just snaps him arm
Hieracon - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:23:07 EST ID:iLAtkSMU No.4354676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Option C.
A disaster is precisely what needs to happen. There has to be a catalyst, and I don't give two fucks if it comes at the expense of Reigns' "WrestleMania moment".
Slick Johnson - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:23:23 EST ID:MSMyNvDI No.4354677 Ignore Report Quick Reply

D. Brock goes over.
Kofi Kingston - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:28:52 EST ID:oW1YiTlV No.4354699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Brock wins gets speared by Roman next night.

Seth cash in and we get Seth vs Roman feud

WEEP WOOP by Chavo Guerrero - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:52:11 EST ID:2JCHbCgn No.4354243 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guess who's coming back!
Jack Evans - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:52:50 EST ID:ukcjJLkN No.4354248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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