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Serious Question: Why is the Internet Community so ANTI-WWE? by Danny Doring - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:49:58 EST ID:C20OCtYP No.5635189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Why is this? Is it because of bad booking? Bad product? these alone does not warrant so much vitriol and hate. It just doesn't. So why is this happening? Especially now that WWE is all out hiring indy talents and even having them main event big time PPVs?

I feel there must be some underlying reason, a cause hidden beneath that drives to such intense hatred towards WWE. I believe its JEALOUSY and BUTTHURT over WWE's global succcess. I think the community can't stand to see to WWE reporting record revenues every Quarter. They can't stand to see WWE succeed at all. So they take it out on the internet, because its their only possible outlet where there exists a community shares the same jealous/butthurt emotional reaction.

Am I Wrong?
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Evangelina - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:53:22 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.5635195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't be fooled. They love it.

They are just a bunch of wrestling hipsters who flock the most obscure thing like PWG and now NJPW. Soon it will be something else.
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:53:23 EST ID:4z6zyVzM No.5635196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's hard to pinpoint one issue down, but I think the most common one is Vince McMahon himself. There's just too much history with Vince that comes off as negative.
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Beef Wellington - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:55:09 EST ID:Yv32c4a+ No.5635199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Success breeds jealousy
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Lash LeRoux - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:56:52 EST ID:i3olNYBP No.5635202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635195
>PWG
>NJPW
>Obscure
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♬ LET THE VOICE OF LOVE, TAKE YOU HIGHEEEEEEEEEER ♬ - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:58:19 EST ID:RYJGbqwq No.5635203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Is it because of bad booking?
yes
>Bad product?
yes
>these alone does not warrant so much vitriol and hate
explain why, babby
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Skip Sheffield - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:58:56 EST ID:AumAAP4c No.5635204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
neckbeards are jealous of everything, including other people being interested in what they are interested in, so the neckbeards feel they must prove they are smarter than you.
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Alere Little Feather - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:05:45 EST ID:+BBiG4n4 No.5635209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it's mostly because from the outside looking in there are a lot of problems with WWE that are seemingly simple to solve(consistent booking, tv production, promos, etc).

You look at this company that has all of the talent and resources in the industry and you think to yourself man, this shit must be great but then you turn on the show and there are promos to embarrassing to watch, storylines that barely make any sense and though admittedly rare these days, matches that put you to sleep.

People on the internet don't like WWE because they think they could do it better essentially.
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Siri - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:06:13 EST ID:MbMFdgxt No.5635210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635202
Theyre definitely not as popular especially in the states in njpws case as youd like to believe.
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GAMI - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:11:05 EST ID:no9GdMyG No.5635214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because they have so much ridiculously talented guys and do nothing with them, they can't book a long term angle, Their weekly TV is awful and actually gets their guys less over.

I stopped watching WWE in 06 or so but started watching WWE again with the summer of punk angle and naturally they ruined it incredibly fast, they have so much wrestling weekly but none of it is worth it, I will watch shows later if I hear a match was good, I have never watched a full episode of Raw Smackdown or NXT in decades and cannot fathom why anybody would.

They have the most talented roster they have ever had and so many shows to put them on and still struggle to do anything interesting, I pretty much just skip through the PPVs and NXT takeovers the day after and watch the good matches now.
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:18:21 EST ID:IV+JTRP8 No.5635220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You must be joking.

Go on any big wrestling forum (wooo, leddit, f4w) and WWE is like 90%+ of the conversation, even more so now that they have multiple brand shows every night of the week. Sure people will criticise it, but that doesn't mean they won't stop watching.

>If you want to talk about a company that gets undeserved vitriol then TNA/IMPACT fits that bill perfectly. There are shitloads of "wrestling fans" who "got burned before", from an outfit that shares little in common with the one today, but will continue to meme and only acknowledge it for the bad stuff, while ignoring some of the great booking of recent years

>ROH is barely covered despite having a weekly tv show. People seem to grudgingly acknowledge that it's a good workrate show, but have you ever seen anyone discussing it?

>LU puts out what were once known as "PPV quality" matches on tv weekly, and frankly makes NXT look bushleague, but for some reason it hasn't gained traction

>on /wooo/ indies, japan (except NJPW), and mexico have three general threads. This means that the majority of casual users don't know what's going on, and the generals are impossible to follow unless you are a regular.

Anti-WWE would mean that people would not watch WWE, and there are very very few people in the IWC who don't watch it at all. you're talking nonsense. Show of hands, who on /wooo/ doesn't watch WWE?
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Sabu - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:20:31 EST ID:/u3usp3K No.5635222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635189
I don't care, I can't affect the product directly so I just sit and watch, enjoy it or not if I feel it's shit, if it's shit for too long I take a break from rassling, I won't pretend I can feed from the indies or new japan, I learned to deal with it that way, although I missed the whole punk rise to main event because of it. People should just learn to deal with it as a source of entertainment (like it or not that's what it is and no one can't pretend otherwise). And also not to feel like opinions on boards actually matter that much to you nor affect your views or how you feel about something. Also the anti establishment mentality is something very common and it has to do with it, the global reach of social networking just helped expand it for some time now.
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Prince Nana - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:26:27 EST ID:aPuVly/3 No.5635225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because WWE is like AAA video games or Hollywood blockbusters. Low quality, high following. You can certainly attribute a contrarian mindset to some of the anti-WWE stuff, but its mostly because WWE isn't as good as other promotions.
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Miyako Matsumoto - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:30:48 EST ID:6vfe4AKm No.5635228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635189
haters hate up. whatever is #1 is going to get hate. NJPW started feeling this pain last year, too. the difference is NJPW is, as of 2017, averaging one >=5 star match per month now.
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Skinner - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:32:58 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5635230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635189
Because we've been exposed to quality wrestling and have been enlightened as to how much WWE fucking sucks.
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Drake Younger - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:35:08 EST ID:na0rgITl No.5635231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
really asinine thread with troll conceit. same dynamic in almost all of pop / consumer culture
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Hernandez - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:40:47 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5635233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>OP
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Hajime Ohara - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:48:08 EST ID:9qYeeIVB No.5635240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think these days WWE has the "disadvantage" of being almost every new fan's ,from the last 15 years, introduction to wrestling. So when fans do branch out 1. they're probably watching a highly praised show/match and 2. they're comparing the show more so on how it's different from the WWE than if it's actually better.

I think the hate has cooled off in recent years. In most part because indie wrestling and puro have become way more accessible. Some people might feel the need to jump through hoops to defend their $100 a month DVD expenses, or the time they spent going through an elaborate process to get bootlegs, you really don't associate any personal expense or accomplishment to watching a youtube video. Before /wooo/tube this place would have at least 2 active "this is why Cena sucks" threads active at any given moment, and the over all awareness of non-WWE wrestling extended to a handful of puro snobs and people who had just started watching ROH.
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Kazarian - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:01:29 EST ID:7hyJle1q No.5635246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because while the matches are generally better than they've ever been on a technical level. they're often directionless and hard to invest in. In the Attitude era everyone had something interesting to do and on the indies (for better or worse) everyone attempts to stand out. In current WWE you have a handful of guys who are relevant and the rest are treading water until they're needed to make the relevant guys look good. All the writers they have on payroll and all the television time they have and they can't find anything interesting for the undercard to do?
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2 Tuff Tony - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:04:00 EST ID:/0tK5gxd No.5635249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
circlejerk circlejerk will defend and praise its every move. That place made me see how stupid WWE fanboys are.
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Danny Doring - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:11:58 EST ID:C20OCtYP No.5635255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635220

>If you want to talk about a company that gets undeserved vitriol then TNA/IMPACT fits that bill perfectly. There are shitloads of "wrestling fans" who "got burned before", from an outfit that shares little in common with the one today, but will continue to meme and only acknowledge it for the bad stuff, while ignoring some of the great booking of recent years

How is this shit better than TNA of the Spike years? Its as goofy and awful as ever. Matt has ruined what left's of TNA.
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Danny Doring - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:17:46 EST ID:C20OCtYP No.5635263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635255

Forgot to upload gif
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♬ LET THE VOICE OF LOVE, TAKE YOU HIGHEEEEEEEEEER ♬ - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:23:03 EST ID:RYJGbqwq No.5635269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635220
>If you want to talk about a company that gets undeserved vitriol then TNA/IMPACT fits that bill perfectly
this shit again
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Hernandez - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:24:54 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5635273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635255
>Matt has ruined what left's of TNA.

if you can explain why Broken Matt is demonstrably more ludicrous and damaging to a wrestling company's credibility than the saga of Kane & the Undertaker, I'd love to hear it
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Tito Santana - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:25:02 EST ID:THN67928 No.5635274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635255
Wow what a wrong and bad opinion this is
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:28:19 EST ID:IV+JTRP8 No.5635277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635255
The Hardys stuff aside, People like Eli Drake, EC3 and the Decay have been allowed to flourish on their own terms. Impact's lack of hands on can have great results. It doesn't always work (see Aron Rex the first), but when it does it feels to me what wrestling was when I was a kid, which is a show where performers perform and go out and try to get over. I can't watch WWE anymore, because it feels like a regular show with actors reading from a script, and that script is trash.

As far as actual hands on booking goes, last year in Impact, there were multiple long term feuds that crossed over, rather than the WWE thing of "we're feuding now..we're not feuding now". EC3 and Bennett started bumping heads in January but didn't fight till much later. EC3 and Lashley was teased at Angle's last match, Matt hated EC3 and Galloway, Lashley hated EC3, Galloway, Edwards and Moose. EC3 hated Lashley, Galloway and Bennet. This was all happening simultaneously and it was rewarding booking for people who watch the show every week.

WWE can't book like that because they're so scared of someone getting over and they can't book long term, because they have to roll out the part timers twice a year to shove everyone else to the side.
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:41:01 EST ID:IV+JTRP8 No.5635291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635277
Another thing to point out from last years Impact main event booking is that everyone involved came out looking stronger.

>Matt won the World title and had a run with it and then became the most over non wwe wrestler of the year
>Galloway had a nice little run with the belt and defended it cleanly.
>Lashley destroyed everyone and had the best heel title run of the last few years
>Bennett beat EC3's streak, he lost a lot after, but he still had that medal
>Edwards beat Lashley clean and looked strong in defeat
>Moose beat Bennett and then demolished Rex for the secondary title
>EC3 is the only one who arguably didn't get elevated, but he still managed to beat Matt clean in January as a heel and also had the highest level feud with Lashley

As far as the main event scene goes, TNA booked it almost perfectly.
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Evangelina - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:43:31 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.5635296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635277
>>5635291
We get it. You don't like WWE and like TNA.
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Hernandez - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:55:18 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5635304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635296
>i c-c-can't refute any of his points so better just dismiss him altogether
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John Nord - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:01:27 EST ID:ciyfBb8W No.5635309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you are a lifetime long wwe fan you basically have wwe induced autism
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Nick Papagiorgio - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:04:55 EST ID:9y0I3fMR No.5635323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635304
Yet you resort to "I pretended he stutters while typing somehow!"?
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Angel de Oro - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:26:33 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5635347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635323
You forgot to say what your problem with Min-Thami's posts was.
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Evangelina - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:38:08 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.5635353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635347
He post under different IPs constantly and sometimes doesn't use his trip. probably him in the replies.
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Earl Hebner - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:42:40 EST ID:qFWDOeYr No.5635356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Booker T losing to Triple H at WM19
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Ox Baker - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:56:04 EST ID:Ck2ErW34 No.5635367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The internet's resting state towards everything is anger.

The most prolific internet commenters and trolls are mostly sad and pathetic people, who think hating on whatever is being discussed anywhere makes them look smarter or more distinguished and it creates an echo chamber of similar sentiments.
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Johnny Gargano - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:57:05 EST ID:pa2omPk0 No.5635369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wwe fans are so lucky that fozzy aren't touring right now

take away the man who's become RAW's main linchpin and the booking is a wasteland. good wrestlers trapped just repeating carbon copies of the same match except half the time, they lose... roman reigns being offended... authority figures with more character than the main eventers... the microscopic women's division with no particularly good talkers... it must be painful!
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:59:58 EST ID:IV+JTRP8 No.5635373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635296
Sorry for trying to add something to the discourse rather than "no u r wrong".

I like what I like and do have the tendency to rant on sometimes. At the end of the day all these posts will be consigned to 404s and all that will be left are the memories of the ideas that were part of them.

I always think about how wrestling fans are very much shills for the companies and the wrestlers they like and admire. Part of it I guess is recognition...we know that wrestling is looked down upon by polite society, but a the same time we also know that there is a passionate fanbase who really do appreciate the art of wrestling. We just want "our boys" and gals to get respect from that base, because we know it's the only place they'll get it from.
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:11:35 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5635384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WWE has week, repetitive narratives, a lame style where everyone has a limited, videogame moves and pretty much every match is the same.

Nothing new happens, guys who are popular are 'cool' doesn't in favour of generic, same-as-before, characterless babyface and none of the titles have any value or purpose.
It's pretty bad.

It's never a good sign when a company has the most incredible and deep roster in the world and the biggest audience of any promotion but no stars and no compelling stories.
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Jackie Gayda - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:19:02 EST ID:5t0Qu8GY No.5635386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>why is it that the show that has the highest numbers of viewers has the highest number of people hating on it?

Are Americans usually this dense?
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Danny Havoc - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:27:12 EST ID:Eag5FqYa No.5635391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635195
iirc it was njpw first, most indies and pwg later, then lu and here we are
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Jigsaw - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:50:36 EST ID:15E4wyJI No.5635413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WWE is shite mate.
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Mercedes Martinez - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:56:41 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5635415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not everyone's the same.

Yes, there's "wrestling hipsters" who will complain about WWE every chance they get simply because it's "normie" or because it's the most popular and they can't stand being associated with something so casual.

As for myself and some others, I hate WWE because I started watching WWE in the late 1990s when it was actually good and had larger than life characters and I've seen it's peak in the late 90s up to around 2005. 2006 is when it started to dip imo and it just kept getting worse and worse. I thought 2007 was terrible but I'd love to go back to 2007 WWE now. Just when I think it can't get worse, it does and my interest has never been lower. The storylines suck, the booking sucks, the commentary sucks. Wrestling used to be like a soap opera and almost every episode would end on a cliffhanger of sorts leaving you wanting more and not being able to wait for the next week. You could pick any month that's not Mania season over the past 4 years and I wouldn't be able to tell you what the feuds were at the time. WWE went from can't miss to can't watch. There's no larger than life characters or in-depth storylines anymore, just dudes that wrestle. Most of them don't look like stars, they just look like dudes that wrestle. Do they put on entertaining matches? Sure I guess, but it's hard to get emotionally attached and that's the important thing. Match quality has never been what I care about with the exception of a brief time period as a teenager when I got on the internet and discovered indies and puro. But that was only over the course of a couple years and then I got burnt out on it. I can't imagine why anyone would enjoy WWE unless they just want matches. The stories and characters aren't intriguing at all except every now and then they'll do something mildly entertaining but that usually involves part-timers anyways.
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Dutch Mantel - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:07:52 EST ID:ANp1cKs0 No.5635430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not anti-WWE. I just want to watch good wrestling. More often than not, WWE is just ok wrestling. Every so often they really pull it out the bad, but the style is so formulaic that it's hard to watch constantly.
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Angel de Oro - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:14:28 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5635440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WWE signed all my favorite wrestlers and either keeps them off TV or tells them to wrestle shitty 5-minute matches, am I allowed to hate it?
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:25:53 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5635450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Put on a shit product, you're gonna be called shit. Cry more, OP.
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David Arquette - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:28:42 EST ID:pGKxOeyd No.5635458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635440

> am I allowed to hate it

No, you're not because you're the one who always wanted to see them wrestle in WWE, you wanted them to wrestle infront of more than just 200 indy shitter fans. You wanted to see your favs main event WWE shows, main event WWE PPVs, to win Rumbles and even main event Mania.

You basically want all that fan fare and stardom only WWE can offer in the business, but discard WWE in itself. So no, you don't get to hate, unless you admit to being a hypocrite piece of shit, then yes you may hate.
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Johnny Gargano - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:30:13 EST ID:pa2omPk0 No.5635461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635458

makes no sense and says more about you than the poster you're replying to
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:32:36 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5635466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635458
Nice to know you read his mind & knew what he wanted.

Also, people shit on WWE because there's so many promotions out there with better wrestling, better storylines, better booking, & have an overall more enjoyable product.
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Nevaeh - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:32:46 EST ID:xDTTaT7E No.5635467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635458
Dude my favorite wrestler main evented Aniversario 82, there's nothing WWE has that comes close to the fanfare and prestige of that event.
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Blackjack Mulligan - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:37:52 EST ID:nLPE4Xk4 No.5635474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey wait a minute
I don't think this WAS a serious question
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David Arquette - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:42:26 EST ID:pGKxOeyd No.5635479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635467

>Aniversario 82

Can you show me single mainstream fan who would've heard of this shit?
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:44:03 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5635480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635479
Explain to him why he should give a shit what someone else has or hasn't heard of?
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David Arquette - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:46:23 EST ID:pGKxOeyd No.5635483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635480

Because he can't claim to "fanfare" and "prestige" without no mainstream acknowledgement.
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Prince Puma - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:47:25 EST ID:7mXrZGOQ No.5635485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635189
>I feel there must be some underlying reason, a cause hidden beneath that drives to such intense hatred towards WWE. I believe its JEALOUSY and BUTTHURT over WWE's global succcess.

Jesus Christ almighty. It's because their product fucking stinks mate, there's no deep psychological reasoning behind it. When you watch something on TV that is garbage your brain is either going to recognize the fact that it's garbage or you're going to simply turn that shit off, which is basically what the fans are doing more or less.
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John Nord - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:47:28 EST ID:ciyfBb8W No.5635486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why do people don't understand the intellectual gratification that comes with watching the most obscure wrestling possible wrestling so obscure that most people wouldnt even think its wrestling if they didnt know anything about the artform
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:48:12 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5635487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635483
It's cute you think this. Have a reply.
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:52:06 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5635498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635486
punctuation is for suckers amirite?
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John Nord - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:53:20 EST ID:ciyfBb8W No.5635502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635498
all my life i tried to incorporate stream of consciousness techniques to my message board posts
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Vinnie Vegas - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:56:42 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5635507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>serious question

Threads with this title are almost always troll threads, is this a new /asp/ meme?

nb
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Nevaeh - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:58:00 EST ID:xDTTaT7E No.5635508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635479
Millions of fans in Mexico, for one, and many more outside of that country.
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Chilly Willy - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:04:59 EST ID:CIIunE+5 No.5635514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635220
>>LU puts out what were once known as "PPV quality" matches on tv weekly, and frankly makes NXT look bushleague, but for some reason it hasn't gained traction
Because most people can't watch it.
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Chilly Willy - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:10:20 EST ID:CIIunE+5 No.5635520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635483
A million dollar gate is mainstream, sorry you and your American friends haven't heard of it.
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:19:09 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5635528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635502
I appreciate your progressive take on imageboard discourse.

>>5635483
>without no
>can't claim to fanfare and prestige
Unless you have a diagnosed learning disability then you're an idiot. That being the case, it's pretty sad that you've concluded that you have the required understanding to engage in a literary debate when you can't even read or write properly.
Plus, since you clearly have an internet connection then there's no reason you can't look up Aniversario yourself. It's also important to remember that not everyone in the world is from middle-America and oblivious of things that aren't American. I'm sure there are plenty of Chinese people who have never heard of Wrestlemania - more people than there are in America, most likely - and therefore Wrestlemania is worthless, obscure garbage by your metrics of 'prestige'.
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Wataru Inoue - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:23:08 EST ID:XKb39Gja No.5635532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can only speak for myself as to why im anti WWE. I'd say the majority of wrestling fans today grew up with the WWEi mean its been almost an entire generation where they were the only fed around. but I grew up in the territory days in the south, my first exposure to wrestling was the Memphis program on channel 5 on Saturdays and then NWA/WCW before we got cable. I've never been a fan of the WWE style. I liked when dudes wrestle like Arn Anderson. by the time the attitude era came along i was already in college and well into being an "smart fan" i guess. I'd pick up magazines since i was a kid and got a lot of exposure to other types of wrestling through that and eventually learned about the super j cups and the reckless youths. I like my wrestling in small paces dingy , grungy spots you know. WWE is too slick, too produced, its like the real doll of wrestling, youd fuck it but its lifeless. I've watched all the indy guys on their show have artistically better matches with more personal freedom for years so the stuff they do in the WWE just doesn't connect with me. At the end of the day it just isn't for me. which is cool, that's how art works
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:24:10 EST ID:FkAEl9Dk No.5635534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WWE is the most popular because it's dumbed down for the masses. You see this in literally every medium.
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Evangelina - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:29:28 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.5635536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635534
Does that mean only smart people watch TNA?
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Rich Swann - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:30:06 EST ID:6HLk9j+z No.5635538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
weebs are mad WWE is taking their heroes out of high school gyms
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Psicosis - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:32:46 EST ID:KBKWXXhi No.5635540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635536
TNA is the Arrested Development of wrestling.
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Jinder Mahal - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:36:20 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5635544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I'm not a wrestling fan, I'm a WWE fan
This is OP.
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:40:50 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5635548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635534
That's the exact, perfect answer to OP's stupid question.

>>5635538
A "weeb" is non-Japanese person who considers the Japanese ethnicity to be superior and all of their cultural output, regardless of quality, to be better by virtue of it being Japanese.
What I'm saying is that you don't know what your buzzword means and you should learn to look words up instead of assuming every new word you find on the internet means 'bad' or 'loser'.
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David Arquette - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:43:29 EST ID:pGKxOeyd No.5635550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635528

> blah blah blah look up Aniversario yourself.

You stupid mong, I'm a long time wrestling fan and if I have look that shit up, then what does it say about the popularity and relevancy of the event?

>I'm sure there are plenty of Chinese people who have never heard of Wrestlemania - more people than there are in America, most likely - and therefore Wrestlemania is worthless, obscure garbage by your metrics of 'prestige'.

This is factually wrong, mainstream chinese are very much informed about WRESTLEMANIA. Numerous people who have worked in mainland china have said it. There's also the fact Wrestlemania is extremely popular in India, which has a population of over 1.2 billion and these people don't even know GOT or walking dead. Other than hollywood, WWE's Wrestlemania is arguably the most popular mainstream entertainment in the global arena today. So you wanna try again with your "obscure garbage" ?


>>5635534

> WWE is the most popular because it's dumbed down for the masses. You see this in literally every medium.

WWE's most popular period was during the Attitude era, so then do you imply the product was "dumbed" down for masses then? What about the golden era, late 80s boom? Was that "dumbed" down for masses as well? How long have you been a wrestling fan? I'm willing to bet you started your wrestling fandom as a WWF fan, which would mean you were one of the dumbed down masses yourself.
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Worker Ant - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:46:20 EST ID:HtuelRAT No.5635553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635458
I didn't want some of my favorite wrestlers to go to the WWE because of the booking, but I was told to shut up and be happy for them because they were making better money.
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John Nord - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:47:54 EST ID:ciyfBb8W No.5635555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635550
if you are a ''long time wrestling fan'' and have never heard of cmll anniversario you dont know shit and might as well just say ''my parents sat me in front of wwe programming from a young age'' instead of trying to portray yourself as some sort of wrestling expert
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Brandon Thomaselli - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:49:27 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5635556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I think the community can't stand to see to WWE reporting record revenues every Quarter

Y'all seriously need to learn the difference between gross and profit, it's becoming embarrassing
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Tito Santana - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:51:56 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5635560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635189
Literally 90% of the shit they do sucks shit, It was all well and good when they pretty much refused to use decent indie guys but now it still sucks but they bring in all these great wrestlers to do nothing of any real worth, if it was a roster of Jinder Mahals and Curt Hawkins I'd probably have no issue but feeding people like Kevin Owens to a 50 year old who hasn't wrestled in over a decade isn't my idea of a good product
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John Nord - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:52:02 EST ID:ciyfBb8W No.5635561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the fact people are using ''the masses'' as a barometer of quality in an art discussion encapsulates young people these days
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:54:25 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5635564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635550
>I'm a long time wrestling fan and if I have look that shit up, then what does it say about the popularity and relevancy of the event?
My dad's been collecting CDs for 40 years and he's never heard of Boris or Sun Ra. Time spent watching wrestling doesn't make you a wrestling encyclopedia. You clearly haven't even looked away from WWE during this alleged 'long time' since WWE loans its own talent out to Aniversario regularly because it's run by a HOFer and father of members of the roster. You literally know nothing about wrestling.

>mainstream chinese are very much informed about WRESTLEMANIA
China has literally no wrestling and, until last year, was one of few major countries in the world that didn't broadcast WWE. They also just got Pokemon last year for the first time.

>don't even know GOT or walking dead
>American TV shows are a good standard of measuring global familiarity
McDonalds and Superheroes are what you should have gone for since you can't name anything that isn't American.

>Wrestlemania is arguably the most popular mainstream entertainment in the global arena today. So you wanna try again with your "obscure garbage" ?
Terrible attempt at a sentence there. Wrestlemania and Eurovision are the two biggest, annual 'entertainment' events in the world. However, the competition would be live concerts and plays and they aren't once-off shows, they are productions that run over periods of time and overall amass larger audiences than Wrestlemania does. And I was simply providing a case study based on your own argument, yet you disregard the context and continue to rant illogically without any actual knowledge on any subject you bring up.

>WWE's most popular period was during the Attitude era, so then do you imply the product was "dumbed" down for masses then?
It was. It was popular because it was controversial, otherwise it was the same product it is now.
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Brandon Thomaselli - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:59:19 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5635566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't watch WWE anymore, I don't hate it, if you enjoy it then good for you. You do you. But I just couldn't bring myself to care about anything that happens in WWE anymore.

The only time I get mad at WWE is when they sign talented guys from promotions I watch, then do absolutely nothing with them and just waste them on shitty C shows or generic undercard matches. People like Cesaro should be putting on MOTY candidates around the world, but WWE has him just sat in the midcard doing absolutely nothing of any worth.

>>5635210
NJPW still isn't obscure

When NJPW are even on the front page of places like r/sc then it can't be classed as obscure. Not to mention it has talent on millions of dollar contracts. Pretty much anybody in the IWC knows who NJPW or PWG are.
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2 Tuff Tony - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:05:28 EST ID:D6sG4Tqo No.5635574 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635550
>so then do you imply the product was "dumbed" down for masses then

Obviously, it was streamlined to appeal to the jerry springer audience and frat boys. The other to appeal to child marks. I started my music collection as a fucking nickleback fan, doesn't mean you don't change and fine better stuff to listen to. Go back and watch those cards and over half the cards most of the time on ppv were still shit. Go watch their weekly programming and you'll see the same thing. Popular doesn't mean bad, but it sure as fuck doesn't mean it's good.

>You stupid mong, I'm a long time wrestling fan and if I have look that shit up, then what does it say about the popularity and relevancy of the event?

It just says you know literally nothing about Mexican wrestling. Millions upon millions of people in mexico watch this. It's only obscure to you because you're american and aren't a wrestling fan that's branched out at all.
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Wataru Inoue - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:12:22 EST ID:XKb39Gja No.5635580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635566
>I don't watch WWE anymore, I don't hate it, if you enjoy it then good for you. You do you. But I just couldn't bring myself to care about anything that happens in WWE anymore.
you get it homie

>The only time I get mad at WWE is when they sign talented guys from promotions I watch, then do absolutely nothing with them and just waste them on shitty C shows or generic undercard matches
I never got my "Karl Anderson IWGP Heavyweight champion" and that saddens me
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RadiantSilvergunPaladius !Zizep3HPC2 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:41:42 EST ID:/yNZ6SFC No.5635600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bad booking, bad product, lackluster matches, etc. The fact that WWE fucks up even the simplest things (emmalina being the most recent example). Even when they garner huge interest due to something fresh they always fuck it up in the end, or it goes nowhere and loses its significance(Nexus, Summer of Punk, Sting).

I stopped watching WWE around 2011 when I realized that the shows were just background noise to me while I played something on steam or whatever. Nowadays I'll only occasionally watch PPVs and bit of Smackdown (which I'll agree is usually good) and NXT specials (but not NXT). For most WWE stuff I'll read results online and maybe check out a match if it has good buzz. RAW is completely unbearable to me when I do watch it lately.

To be honest, if you watch for storylines and drama (most WWE diehards fall into this) that's fine and honestly I'd feel it's the best appeal that product has. But if you genuinely defend the in-ring product compared to what New Japan, LU and CMLL have you're straight up lying to yourself. Hell, I much prefer TNA in the last year because the product is at least not as monotonous as WWE (I'll concede that the in-ring product WWE has is better though, but not by too much). It's strange to me that people hold TNA to such a high standard but make so many excuses for WWE.

I feel like you have a lot of diehard WWE fans who will watch something like AJ Vs Cena thinking it's the best match in the world; but these same fans don't watch anything outside of the WWE bubble. Don't misunderstand me, it was a very good match, but I had a discussion with an acquaintance who honestly felt that Okada/Omega couldn't be better than AJ/Cena simply because it wasn't in WWE and therefor didn't matter. Mind you he hasn't seen it and doesn't want to. You can't really have a discussion with those kinds of people. WWE thrives off that mentality.

I think narrowing it down to "jealousy" is extremely naive. Simply put, it's important to have standards. If I'm a comic book fan and DC is doing a horrible job, I'm going to check out Marvel. And vice versa. Why WWE fans can't be both critical of the product and willing to experience something different has always boggled me.
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Jungle Grrrl - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:48:41 EST ID:kSx/nuCP No.5635604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635304
Of course, /wooo/'s biggest TNA mark here to fight for TNA.
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Jimmy Olson - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:50:12 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5635608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635604
Too bad you can't disprove what he said.
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:51:09 EST ID:FkAEl9Dk No.5635609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635600
I think someone said it already, but we're all extremely defensive of what we like because normies look down on us. So we get extremely defensive, even inside our little bubbles
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RadiantSilvergunPaladius !Zizep3HPC2 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:08:33 EST ID:/yNZ6SFC No.5635618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635609
I can certainly understand that because that was me at one point. Of course, now I'm in my late 20's and I have access to a lot more than I once did. That being said I do think it's possible to be a fan of one promotion while still enjoying others. If a friend never showed me ROH back in high school I'm not sure I'd be the wrestling fan I am today.

When I was a teenager I only listened to mainstream rock music. Now I have a pretty eclectic taste, and can't stand what passes for mainstream music.

I'm not knocking popular stuff, to each his own; but I do think having higher standards for things you love is something that should come with more maturity.

It's a good indicator of having an open mind. And that's really the first step to checking out better things than you're used to.
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Jon Bolen - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:13:56 EST ID:ewaq2+A0 No.5635620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Shit booking
>Boring style that makes all the matches feel the same
>Booking making it impossible to care
>A friendly company
>Twice tried to create monopoly and chased off anyone does like their boring matches
>Written promos that are beyond cringe worthy.
>The real stars are all part timers.
>They hire away good wresters and often don't do anything with them.
>Awful commentary.
>The shows all feel the same.
>The fact that the company needs to revise history so that the 30 for 30 special in Andre is going to suck hard.
>Fans who've been so deeply indoctrinated into this cult that they refuse to expand their horizons.
>Vince and his family are the most impotent figures in the shows.
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Ray Mendoza - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:15:39 EST ID:2Ook/2ai No.5635622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635600
It's funny. The same people who constantly shit talk the WWE saying,"It's not as good as the old days", but continue to watch it but won't branch out to anything else boggles me more. Pic related
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Shu Shibutani - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:25:41 EST ID:hioW90sT No.5635634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Places like /wooo/ discuss WWE to death so any negatives are eked out, and they fantasy book every angle as if both guys were way better than they are so almost every story disappoints in comparison.
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Bob Armstrong - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:38:41 EST ID:vsFlUbEx No.5635641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635189
>Is it because of bad booking? Bad product?
Yes and yes.
>these alone does not warrant so much vitriol and hate. It just doesn't.
Yeah it does. WWE as a whole has contempt for its fans. And that alone is a reason I hate it.
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Jon Bolen - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:51:38 EST ID:ewaq2+A0 No.5635658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635641
That's another thing. They have a horrible relationship with their fan base.
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Hayabusa - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:51:44 EST ID:eoRmEBnY No.5635659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635622

Unrelated: Do you know how much it sucks to not have either fighter on Xbox One?

I know, it's my fault, but DAMMIT.
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Rodney Mack - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:55:38 EST ID:atehvbdb No.5635667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To put it briefly, WWE has all the talent and resources to put on the greatest wrestling product ever on a regular basis. Despite this they not only settle for mediocrity, but they seem to strive for it. And even in those efforts they still manage to put on hours of below average content with above average stuff sprinkled in here and there.
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Tyler Reks - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:03:16 EST ID:UDcJBMOf No.5635669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i hate it because the drones who watch all 600 hours of its garbage shows every week shit up every wrestling discussion forum on the internet complaining about how much they hate what they never stop watching and love to masturbate to their waifus
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Jinder Mahal - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:42:32 EST ID:BduqoDbH No.5635696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They aren't. They are more pro-WWE than they have ever been.
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Masahiro Chono - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:39:58 EST ID:G91FCQF7 No.5635733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't stand Raw but otherwise it's still good
>CWC tournament, UK tournament, what's next?
>SmackDown Live is the best wrestling show atm, thank you based Styles, Wyatt, Becky etc.
>NXT Specials are always worth to watch
>The match quality is pretty good, actually better than ever in WWE
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Hernandez - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:41:14 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5635734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635696
THIS

the new smark narrative is to talk about how Meltz being on the NJPW payroll is creating an unfair and biased perception that WWE isn't getting the recognition it deserves
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Skinner - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:45:02 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5635738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635734
Right now there's a very obvious divide between the common smark, that hates WWE, and....smarks with shit taste.

I think it got worse after this year's WK
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♬ LET THE VOICE OF LOVE, TAKE YOU HIGHEEEEEEEEEER ♬ - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:55:54 EST ID:RYJGbqwq No.5635739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635734
>Only 4 guys after Kojima in the first month of 2011
>Its gonna repetitively continue like this
>No Kojima comeback run
Fucking dammit
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Adam Cole - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:57:05 EST ID:HBEQwCrS No.5635742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>92 replies
Jesus fucking Christ /wooo/
I am so disappoint at you right now
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BurningHammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:02:38 EST ID:hI6DiFdg No.5635744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635734
WWEbabbies and anti-indy/puro smarks need to realize that

  1. Meltz is just a man with a newsletter, and the more they whine about these ratings the more important they're making them, which the ratings aren't, just cool.

2.**** matches are great matches. The scale to most assholes seems to be 0-4.34 = shit, 5 = amazeballs, and that needs to stop.

Seriously, why cry about how someone else didn't like a match as much as you did?
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Greg Gagne - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:10:46 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5635750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635734
I'm pretty sure Frays a troll account or more likely has some form of down syndrome
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British Bulldog - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:21:49 EST ID:ciyfBb8W No.5635755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635750
fray is well documented shoot mentally ill but hes a fun looney
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Prince Puma - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:37:16 EST ID:7mXrZGOQ No.5635764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635734
>TheFagMovement throwing shade at someone with a genuine point.

What a total shock.
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James Storm - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:40:16 EST ID:B0JyIh+T No.5635767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm harsh on it because I want it to be better.
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Invader 1 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:54:17 EST ID:V4VlI154 No.5635782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635734

DylanWaco > Fray
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Alberto Del Rio - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:38:44 EST ID:YsL5jEQe No.5635808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635782
The whole Hales family rules
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Murphy - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:45:44 EST ID:GVAxqBtc No.5635810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Like 80% of smarks are WWE-onlys that MIGHT watch Wrestle Kingdom and BOLA
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Matt Classic - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:48:44 EST ID:vsFlUbEx No.5635813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635189
Vince McMahon has said it over and over since at least the mid 1980s. WWE is not a wrestling company. They are not in the wrestling business. They are in the Entertainment business.

Some people like to watch professional wrestling. They are not interested so much in watching wrestling themed soap opera or "man-drama" as it is sometimes called now.

The wrestling in the WWE is pretty much....shit. Even the very best WWE matches have very poor wrestling because the wrestling is simply not the focus in the WWE. If you sit back and look at 99/100 matches in the WWE there is no rhyme or reason to it. There is no story. The wrestlers just go in and do moves until the prearranged time when one of them hits their finisher or some storyline drama interferes with the match. There is almost no notion of an actual athletic contest going on . The announcers rarely mention a wrestler's particular style or school of training. There is little mention of size and reach advantages that go beyond the basic "Braun Strowman is HUGE". You'll never hear any talk about leverage or technique.

If you go back and watch some Bryan Danielsson matches he had in ROH you will see actual pro wrestling. Matches where every move that each man did looks like it has a purpose. Looks like it is an exhibition of technique by two men doing something normal people cannot do. There is a story told in the ring.

In the world of pro wrestling WWE is sort of like how people in the United States regard latin soap operas or bollywood. A lot of melodrama but very predictable and not much substance at the end of the day. And all the women are ridiculously hot and often have fake boobs.

Pro wrestling is almost dead in the US. ROH isn't doing too great, and TNA is just another version of the same product WWE sells with maybe just a teeny bit more actual wrestling mixed in.

So why does the IWC hate WWE? Well, I can't speak for everyone, but for a few people they hate it because it's not really pro wrestling, but passes itself off as such and takes a lot of the attention away from promotions that people who like wrestling enjoy. And it poaches talent. People who you love to see tear the house down in the ring are signed with the WWE and what you get from them from that point on is a watered down big budget casual version of what you liked about them before. It is akin to a good television actor going on to star in crappy summer action movies. You don't want to see them in that. You want to see them on the smaller screen doing their the way they do it best. Sure, they are making a lot bigger paycheck, but that is not really your concern.
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Scotty 2 Hotty - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:52:43 EST ID:Vpl1cr3z No.5635816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635813
Did you write this post in 2004?
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Greg Gagne - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:01:09 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5635828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635816
I don't remember a wwe in 2004 taking many great indie wrestlers
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Aldo Montoya - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:12:23 EST ID:gU+q1ni6 No.5635835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is this thread open? No wonder this place is on its deathbed.
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Lauren Brooke - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:19:33 EST ID:pO2v0kua No.5635839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635813
>They are in the Entertainment business.

That line always gets me because for the one thing they're allegedly focusing on is the thing they're the absolute worst at.
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Nova - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:26:51 EST ID:6HLk9j+z No.5635843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635548
this weeb mad as fuck
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Cyrus - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:31:58 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5635849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635835
If mods close it the /asp/ies are going to cry about it nonstop for the entire weekend.. That's far worse.
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The Jackyl - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:32:13 EST ID:4GeVdAak No.5635850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635835
This place is on its deathbed because everything that isn't a general gets locked because of pussies like you

The user base of 2017 wooo and C-Higgy's fee fees are why this place is dying
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Meng - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:35:19 EST ID:ldFw3KPO No.5635851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635850
THIS
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♬ LET THE VOICE OF LOVE, TAKE YOU HIGHEEEEEEEEEER ♬ - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:41:50 EST ID:RYJGbqwq No.5635852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
glad to see the return of the wooo is dying meme
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Aero Star - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:44:10 EST ID:24pL3qXV No.5635853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5635850
t. sisterfucker
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Zema Ion - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:46:03 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5635855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635850
This meme never gets old
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RadiantSilvergunPaladius !Zizep3HPC2 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:52:32 EST ID:/yNZ6SFC No.5635859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635813
This is all pretty accurate. If you look at nearly all the indy NXT signings and compare their work before and after joining WWE; it's night and day in regards to quality. But good luck convincing a WWE fanboy of that.

I can hardly stand AmDrag's work in WWE even the good stuff; it's so repetitive and formulaic. Comparatively, he wrestled a different match in ROH when he was champ depending on who his opponent was.
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Rodney Mack - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 22:06:22 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.5635864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This thread is going places
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Britani Knight - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 02:52:52 EST ID:7gSbdrCu No.5635956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635850

I agree with this entirely. C-Higgy and Spardot's moderation is slowly but surely killing this place. People just don't like generals, how hard is that for the mods to understand? Why can't they allow separate threads for topics?
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Zema Ion - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 03:06:38 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5635958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635956
>Why can't they allow separate threads for topics?

They do, so please go take your concern trolling to /420/ pls
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Jungle Grrrl - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 05:20:19 EST ID:9qW9BRoT No.5636008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Is it because of bad booking? Bad product? these alone does not warrant so much vitriol and hate
What the fuck are you on about, if WWE is a, as you put it, a bad product why the fuck does that not warrant it? You're a fucking moron.
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William Perry - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 06:11:03 EST ID:ZyvKFu7G No.5636040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5635813
>"Matches where every move that each man did looks like it has a purpose"
>Meanwhile people like you hype flippy and flashy companies like AAA, Progress, PWG and Lucha Underground
I bet you like Young Bucks as well as long as they are not in WWE
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:27:07 EST ID:GU+4KBUL No.5636049 Report Quick Reply
Well it has the most exposure and discussion on here being the biggest wrestling promotion in the world. Obviously there's plenty of criticism against it considering how bad its writing and booking is despite having a lot of great talent that are misused.

>>5635956
>Why can't they allow separate threads for topics?

You mean like all the other threads that are on here right now? I had this exact same discussion on /mtv/, if people want to make threads they can but if it's something that would go in a general then it would go there instead.
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Nova - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 09:55:32 EST ID:6HLk9j+z No.5636116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5636049
You lock way too much shit that is having active discussion that would never be discussed in a general.

You honestly moderate this place like you want it dead.
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:08:19 EST ID:IV+JTRP8 No.5636122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5636049
So if there was a WWE general, you'd be ok with that?
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Big Dick Dudley - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:17:39 EST ID:gpThw6ub No.5636128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5636116
>>5635956
>>5635850
>>5635835

I sincerely hope wooo actually does die so this cancerous abomination concern trolling will die with you.
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Cyrus - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:24:00 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5636130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5636122
>if there was a WWE general
I wish.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:26:00 EST ID:GU+4KBUL No.5636134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5636116
The only thing I really locked recently that should have gone in a general was that Triple H dog thread, which was already veering into /ani/ discussion anyways. Everything else like that just the usual /asp/ shitposts we get on here like those interview threads that get spammed here.

>>5636122
We're not having a WWE general for obvious reasons but that would get locked.
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Nova - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:28:38 EST ID:6HLk9j+z No.5636135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5636128
calm down
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Equinox - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:42:37 EST ID:jG2tklSr No.5636181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder if anyone who buys a ticket to see a live show has ever been on the internet before.
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:45:54 EST ID:IV+JTRP8 No.5636184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5636134
>We're not having a WWE general for obvious reasons but that would get locked.

Why? Sorry the reasons don't appear obvious to me. Why would it be locked?


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