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Indie General #11: More Than Mania edition by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 21:35:32 EST ID:tarI869j No.5654173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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WrestleMania is coming up and with that comes a jam-packed weekend of indie wrestling events surrounding it. Whether it's the WWNLive Experience shows, WrestleCon shows, WaleMania, ROH Supercard of Honor XI, WCPW State of Emergency, it's all happening under one roof in Orlando, Florida.

>Weekly tube blocks where indie promotions can be found include Britwres Tube (Thursdays @ 4pm EST / 9pm GMT) for the British Isles indie scene and Indie Tube for the indie scene outside of the British Isles, Japan and Mexico (Fridays @ 3pm EST / 8pm GMT). Both can be watched in /wooo/tube - http://taima.tv/r/wooo
>ROH Wrestling airs weekly on Fridays @ 7:10 EST / 12:10am BST (8pm EST / 1am GMT if there's an ROH PPV scheduled) in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt - http://taima.tv/r/woooalt. Replays air on Saturdays @ 3:10pm EST / 8:10pm GMT in /wooo/tube (12:10pm EST / 5:10pm GMT if there's a PPV replay scheduled after)
>WCPW Loaded airs when scheduled on Mondays @ 3pm EST / 8pm GMT in /wooo/tube 2 - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2
>Indie shows and live events are shown in afternoon and evening slots on weekends. Keep an eye on /wooo/ for information on those as they're scheduled and updated in the "Upcoming Events" section on /wooo/tube.

An assortment of Prominent Indies and Where to Find Them:

>Ring of Honor
http://rohwrestling.com
http://twitter.com/ringofhonor
http://www.rohwrestling.com/vod

>Beyond Wrestling
http://lookmanofans.com
http://twitter.com/beyondwrestling
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeNRDPH9cSS9WPrRbbixI-A

>Combat Zone Wrestling
http://czwrestling.com
http://twitter.com/combatzone
https://www.czwstudios.com/

>EVOLVE Wrestling
http://dgusa.tv
http://twitter.com/BookItGabe
http://wwnlive.com/

>CHIKARA
http://chikarapro.com
http://twitter.com/CHIKARApro
http://chikarapro.com/chikaratopia-subscriptions

>Pro Wrestling Guerilla
http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com
https://twitter.com/#!/OfficialPWG
http://www.highspots.com/c/PWG-VOD.html

>PROGRESS Wrestling
http://progresswrestling.com
http:///twitter.com/ThisIs_Progress
http://demandprogress.pivotshare.com

>Insane Championship Wrestling
http://insanewrestling.co.uk
http://twitter.com/InsaneChampWres
http://icwondemand.pivotshare.com

>Westside Xtreme Wrestling
http://wxw-wrestling.com
http://twitter.com/wXwGermany
https://vimeo.com/westsidextremewrestling

>Revolution Pro Wrestling
http://revolutionprowrestling.com
http://twitter.com/RevProUK
https://vimeo.com/revprouk

>Smash Wrestling
http://smash-wrestling.com
https://twitter.com/smashwrestling
https://ondemand.smash-wrestling.com/

>Absolute Intense Wrestling
http://www.aiwrestling.com/
https://twitter.com/aiwrestling
https://www.youtube.com/user/aiwrestling

>All American Wrestling
http://aawrestling.com
http://twitter.com/aawpro
https://www.youtube.com/user/AAWPro

>Northeast Wrestling
http://northeastwrestling.com
https://northeastwrestling.pivotshare.com/

>WhatCulture Pro Wrestling
https://wc.pw/
https://twitter.com/whatculturepw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq8jp0E99ELBvmBxjJ-JLgA
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Henry O. Godwinn - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 21:49:44 EST ID:OF85yd2f No.5654199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
joey janela is the modern day antonio inoki and if dj hyde had any sense he would be flying in kota ibushi to wrestle him in a new jersey apartment deathmatch immediately
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 21:51:19 EST ID:5qyMhHZu No.5654202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654199
Joey Janela vs Gregory Granola when?
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:21:59 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5654253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Alberto Del Rio - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:24:42 EST ID:XLVFRLpo No.5654256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654199
im sure joey has tried to get ibushi
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Aldo Montoya - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:25:06 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5654258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654253
>there's still more entrants

thank you
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Kensuke Sasaki - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:25:15 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.5654259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654253

The silhouette in the lower right corner looks like the Robot Chicken nerd.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:31:18 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5654263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654259

I'm pretty sure one of the silhouttes is an Attitude Era render of the Rock.
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:41:27 EST ID:5qyMhHZu No.5654277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Indie General
>ROH
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Atlantis - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:20:45 EST ID:d1OLVa2N No.5654331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5654277
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Averno - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:28:24 EST ID:THN67928 No.5654347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654277
It's the only way anyone would ever talk about ROH tbf
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Brooklyn Brawler - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:44:42 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5654368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654347
You could possibly transition the current Impact General into "non-WWE US Televised Promotions General" where people talked about TNA/ROH/LU (since LU talk is pretty sectioned off from other Lucha General talk), but that's probably a bad and/or unrealizable concept.
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Lance Storm - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 05:27:06 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5654561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654259
>>5654263
And one of them is the eiffel tower.
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Gedo - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 05:29:45 EST ID:TyjWo4vy No.5654562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought that belt in the OP was a Toryumon one for a sec
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 05:38:10 EST ID:dVetD4yX No.5654563 Report Quick Reply
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>OP IMAGE ISN'T FROM JOEY JANELA'S SPRING BREAK

DELET THIS C-HIGGY
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Olimpico - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 05:54:26 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5654571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5654563
It should be this, tbh.
>SUN, SKIN, BOOZE* AND BABES
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Headbanger Trasher - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:27:08 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5654608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654571

>Matt Riddle vs Dan Severn

I wonder if Dan is a big enough name for Riddle to not throw all his toys out the pram when asked to lose.
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Aldo Montoya - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:38:44 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5654613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5654563
>thinking anyone cares about Gabe's third "workrate appreciation" title and his 72 monthly tournaments instead of a fun, carny, edgy midnight wrestling spectacle

OP Image is OBSOLTETE
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Super Crazy - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:18:11 EST ID:CIIunE+5 No.5654639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why isn't Dragon Gate a part of WNN, when their site use to be called DGUSA ?
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Goldberg - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:38:29 EST ID:na0rgITl No.5654653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654639
Confused about WWN's relationship with Dragon Gate? For more info, check out Gabe's weekly EVOLVE bulletins on Floslam.tv
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 10:06:12 EST ID:8VL+JX2M No.5654710 Report Quick Reply
>>5654563
>>5654613
Guess I shoulda called it Spring Break edition then.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 10:22:44 EST ID:Rp4PvgpZ No.5654723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can somebody explain how in the fuck ROH is an Indie?

Like, on what grounds?
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 10:37:17 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5654746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654723

On the grounds that noone can be bothered to make an ROH general.
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Lena Yada - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 10:53:07 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5654757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5654723
I used to be the only one bugged by this. Even made an "Indie and-also-ROH General" OP one time. S'nice to know t'weren't just me.
Anyway, in answer to your question; tradition, talent, timing and torpor. It's history is intrinsically tied to the indies, the talent are largely free to wrestle the indies, the TV schedule & house show booking follows a template far more akin to indies, and the product's been so bleh lately that you'll likely only get updates or discussion by lumping it it with the indies.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:01:42 EST ID:8VL+JX2M No.5654765 Report Quick Reply
>>5654723
It still uses the indie model of releasing shows on VOD and there's indie wrestlers like Marty Scurll and Lio Rush that are signed with ROH. Not to mention it's easier to discuss ROH and LU in the indie and lucha general and tube threads rather than their own threads.
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Jerry Lynn - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:07:43 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5654768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654723
It's not, it just has the vibe. That was always the point with ROH
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Lena Yada - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:23:38 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5654790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654768
Difference being it "was always" a literal indie before.
It ain't now. Some might even argue it doesn't have that vibe anymore.
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Alex Koslov - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:26:41 EST ID:HPEnf7KD No.5654793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654757
>talent are free to wrestle indies

not anymore
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Madison Rayne - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:30:04 EST ID:zEpqVsHP No.5654797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654790
Yeah, people call it an indie because it's not WWE. A lot of people seem to think ROH is 'that indie promotion' and by addressing it as such it makes it obscure and makes them cool. In reality, of course, it's owned by a massive company and has a product that is like a weird, poorly produced imitation of WWE.
I always like to point out that WWE is more independent than ROH is - since its majority ownership is WWE/Vince.
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Brian Hebner - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:50:56 EST ID:bD/cMc66 No.5654819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ROH still rule for what they did in the previous decade, when they were hot, creative and independent. of course people are gonna call them an indie, it's preferable to thinking about how dull and self-perpetuating the company has become since then

OK which are going to be the best indie shows around Mania? I'm aware of the Janela show, but what else? i'm interested in Japanese and Mexican indies too, and possibly Brit stuff if it's not dry supercard Brit stuff
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Lena Yada - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:55:58 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5654825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654793
>>>>>largely
Depends on the contract and the territory. Jay Lethal won't be wrestling for NYPW anytime soon but for the most part, yeah they are.
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Irwin R. Schyster - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:57:32 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5654827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654819
Wrestlecon has a bunch of stuff, there's a show with some CMLL guys at a rec center in a fairly sketchy part of town, but it's during the daytime so you probably won't get killed. Don't leave anything in your car though.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 12:02:50 EST ID:8VL+JX2M No.5654834 Report Quick Reply
>>5654825
and ROH allows their wrestlers to work for PWG and Britwres promotions.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 15:15:13 EST ID:8VL+JX2M No.5655002 Report Quick Reply
Kevin Kelly is gonna call the 15th Anniversary Show with Ian Riccaboni. I wonder if this is a one off or ROH came to a new deal with him?
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Kurrgan - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:54:18 EST ID:DWq1+x2S No.5655111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654819
revpro looks great
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Lena Yada - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:09:06 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5655133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
waitwaitwaitwait
Crummels & Defarge are Campeonatos now?
...Neat. I liked their debut. Might need to start watching shows again.
Still doesn't make up for Batiri though.
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Mokes - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:55:26 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5655589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5655133
They won it during Secret Season 17.
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Percy Watson - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 02:27:55 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5655663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5654819
Have a list!
I think it's at 66 now.
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Percy Watson - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 02:52:58 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5655687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654819
>>5655663
and for the recommended shows
Thurs: evolve 80 + Spring break

Fri: evolve 81 if not just for Keith Lee vs Dijak, Supershow if not just for Hardys vs Lucha Bros, Revpro looks ok depending on how you feel about ZSJ and Ospreay, I don't think the Progress card is out but it has ZSJ, Callihan, Shane Strickland, Mandrews, Riddle, Dunne

Sat: CZW or Progress v Evolve, PWR might be cool too

Kaiju Big Battle (Fri) and both Chikara shows if you're into those too

nb
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 09:39:02 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5655910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5655663

Some stuff is missing but here are some of the cards for those shows.
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Don Harris - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 10:05:00 EST ID:eYuZgAIF No.5655927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The 2nd match for the Mania weekend Beyond show after Riddle/Dijak is Keith Lee vs Jeff Cobb.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 11:19:34 EST ID:tarI869j No.5655986 Report Quick Reply
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Hardys-Briscoes at Saturday's TV tapings
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Dick the Bruiser - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:21:05 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5656035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5655927
>Keith Lee vs Jeff Cobb
T H I C C lads doing T H I C C things.
I would kill to see Lee hit the spirit bomb on Jeff Cobb.
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A.J. Styles - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:26:12 EST ID:ef7WYuIZ No.5656036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5655986
Quite hyped tbh
Did we ever get this before, no?
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Barbarian - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:32:12 EST ID:dpeRX3pR No.5656043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5655910
>Ryback vs Colt Cobana
So what's the betting someone busts out a GTS during this match?
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Kobald - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:36:51 EST ID:Nd408Wx9 No.5656047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5655986
I really hope they make a feud of some sort out of this.

also in general indy-ing has anybody bought tix from Fighting Evolution Wrestling? They're running a show on Saturday of Mania weekend but their web site is ass and the flyer is in Spanish lol
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Superstar Billy Graham - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:39:20 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5656050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656043
Its a CM Punk Action Figure on a Pole match too
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WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:54:37 EST ID:C8JBGLJj No.5656065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656050

Speaking of, what is the status of Cabana/Punk's friendship? I heard rumors a while ago that they were no longer friends, but nothing ever really got confirmed...
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Min-Thami !SBcRX98nfs - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 13:39:50 EST ID:fxUSTDcw No.5656124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5656065
who was the Mudasir?
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Mokes - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:21:17 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5656327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The first match for Chikara's WM Weekend Saturday card.
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 17:15:40 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5656386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656036
It happened at Omega about three years ago and was quite good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNVM3w10vEw
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7ven - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 18:58:01 EST ID:C5f2mUyj No.5656499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656327
is zsj gonna be on every freaking mania weekend show?
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Johnny Rodz - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:01:02 EST ID:THN67928 No.5656501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656499
Seems like him and Matt Riddle probably will be, yes
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:06:06 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5656506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656499
A lot for the most part. What he currently has announced
  • EVOLVE 80 on Thursday vs. ACH (EVOLVE Title Match)
  • EVOLVE 81 non-title match on Friday vs. Elgin
  • Rev Pro vs. Pentagon Jr (both it and EVOLVE 81 are running the same timeslot with ZSJ/Elgin working both of those shows, Elgin teaming with Brian Cage against Strickland and Ryan Smile on Rev Pro)
  • Chikara Saturday vs. Max Smashmaster
  • He'll defend on the WWN Supershow on Saturday if ACH does not beat him Thursday
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:45:30 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5656545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656506

Pretty sure he's confirmed for Progress as well (as you'd expect) and I wouldn't be surprised to see him confirmed for WCPW.

As far as I'm aware RevPro is the only Wrestlecon show he's doing, so people who aren't into him at least have sanctuary in CZW and Janela's show.
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Henry O. Godwinn - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:50:09 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5656549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656506
Big money Zack cashing in a bunch of paychecks at the bookings office plus selling merch all weekend.
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Velvet Sky - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:06:41 EST ID:C5f2mUyj No.5656564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656545
he isnt confirmed for progress but if he is thats 3 afternoon shows friday he is on
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:19:17 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5656583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5656564
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Velvet Sky - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:26:08 EST ID:C5f2mUyj No.5656589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656583
effort put into which one if you had to guess?
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:29:47 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5656596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5656589

He had a real good match with Elgin last year so the EVOLVE 81 match should be good. The Pentagon match should be a blast too, though I could certainly see the crowd carrying that. I imagine he'll work Strickland at Progress which would be lovely, then he can probably take it easy for most of the other stuff apart from ACH.

Given the killer weekend he had in Dallas last year I have high hopes for him doing just fine on this one, even if he is working four thousand shows.
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Sugar Dunkerton - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:13:40 EST ID:MFpH59oK No.5657067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Greg Gagne - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 08:50:20 EST ID:bv3vR+yG No.5657105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hoping PROGRESS are bringing Travis Banks over for the Orlando shows, fella ia fantastic.
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Bob Sapp - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:05:23 EST ID:4cN/1vVk No.5657159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657067
Isn't O'chet working Best of the Best too? Those shows are the same time. This shit is getting ridiculous. I can't wait for all these dream matches to be super underwhelming because everyone is saving their energy or tired from the 6 other matches they've had that weekend.
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El Dandy - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:51:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5657195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657159
>Isn't O'chet working Best of the Best too?
No.

BTOB and the Supershow are part of WrestleCon.

Supershow is Friday night (opposite the WWE HOF) (and Chikara on FloSlam)
Rev Pro is Saturday afternoon (opposite Chikara's second FloSlam show)
BOTB is Saturday night (opposite NXT)(and EVOLVE vs Progress)
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Johnny Rodz - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:51:52 EST ID:THN67928 No.5657196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657067
Nice to see Lashley work literally any indie show and him vs Cobb sounds fun, but I desperately need some money mark promoter to put on Lashley vs Riddle asap

>>5657159
Last year I went to the Wrestlecon show and there were several guys (most notably Hero, Sami Callihan, ZSJ, Ospreay, and Scurrl) who were working both that show and the WWN Supershow which was happening at more or less the same time. It's doable, just requires creative booking and guys with decent stamina.
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El Dandy - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:54:38 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5657197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657195
also none of the WrestleCon shows are going to be streamed - they're all VOD/DVD. (Most of the talent involved is contracted to TNA, NJPW and LU with CZW guys thrown in)

So if you weren't attending live, you could feasibly watch the entire FloSlam More Than Mania weekend on iPPV (EVOLVE, Progress, Chikara, Shimmer, Beyond, Kaiju Big Battel and Janela's Spring Break) AND THEN wait for Rev Pro, CZW & Highspots to release the WrestleCon shows
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El Dandy - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:57:20 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5657201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657196
>I desperately need some money mark promoter to put on Lashley vs Riddle asap

the rumors are that the new TNA management wants Riddle. They brought in a bunch of guys from Larry Sharpe's Monster Factory (where Riddle trained) at the last set of tapings and supposedly were going to give the Factory on-air plugs ... probably as a way to butter up the Factory into hooking them up with Bro.

Not sure how often he keeps in touch with his trainers though; seems like he gets his career advice from Gabe and I imagine Gabe is telling him to stay away from TNA
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:17:20 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5657221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657159
Only WWN show he is in is vs Keith Lee on EVOLVE 80. Vs. Marty at Rev Pro, vs. Strickland at Revolver, and he is in BOTB as far as his bookings go I believe.

I was surprised to see Marty and Will added to Rev Pro (and the Supershow in Will's case) since both are contracted to ROH and ROH exclusive talents do not seem to be getting bookings for Wrestlecon shows or other shows.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:42:10 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5657253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657221

RevPro and ROH have a bit of a working relationship, RevPro made sure to thank ROH for letting them use both guys so I'm not surprised they're not showing up elsewhere. Definitely not expecting either guy to show up on the Progress show, especially now that's gonna be on WWN iPPV.
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El Dandy - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:22:16 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5657314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657221
1) ROH's exclusivity deals are for North America only. Yeah this is on US land, but its a UK promotion and it's not running against an ROH show (plus its competing against FloSlam ... "enemy of my enemy is my friend")

2) ROH feels like the bitch in this NJPW network of partnerships. I'd say Will is more of a NJPW signed talent that is being given to ROH and there's no reason to cause a fight with NJPW's British partner

3) Scurll's ROH deal is only for a year and he has an out-clause 6 months in (or so the story goes). ROH could try to fuck with him and he'd be gone in no time
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:17:44 EST ID:F7pUWbfZ No.5657592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657314
>>5657253
I know ROH and Rev Pro have their deal but I was under the impression that ROH put a block on their contracted talents taking other bookings mania weekend at all which is the only reason why I found it surprising but most of those reasons add up on top of ROH probably not wanting to cause further disgruntlement with their roster. I would like to see more of their exclusive names on other shows if only to freshen up the repetitive rosters on a number of shows that weekend.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:32:17 EST ID:Ultd2W3T No.5657990 Report Quick Reply
I talked to Joey Janela (with his gf Penelope Ford) tonight at intermission and asked him about his Spring Break show and asked how he's been able to put it together and he was just saying he was calling people up and stuff. Ken Shamrock was actually his #1 choice to book against Matt Riddle but said his booking fee was $20K so he couldn't get em. Chill as fuck dude though, definitely a guy who's gonna really break out and get bigger opportunities in places like PWG and EVOLVE.
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Phantasio - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 22:06:47 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5658036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657990
get him to do a Q & A with us goddammit!
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Adrian Adonis - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 22:10:52 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5658042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657990
>Severn is cheaper than Shamrock
Surprising.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 22:16:37 EST ID:Ultd2W3T No.5658047 Report Quick Reply
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>>5657990
Also Joey's got great facial expressions in the ring in addition to just how crazy he can get during his matches. His match against Logan Easton Laroux was pretty good and Joey put him over. The crowd got into him and got please come back. Sonjay Dutt vs. Trevor Lee in the main event up next:

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Jesse The Body Ventura - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 23:04:24 EST ID:OyRAlCoS No.5658098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657990
did you ask him if he tried to book his fellow madman ibushi?
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Farooq - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 23:07:37 EST ID:aHGAMdCy No.5658100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5657990
>Shamrock charging $20K
I'd understand if he was still a big deal in wrestling and MMA, but in his current state that's ludicrous.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 23:18:16 EST ID:Ultd2W3T No.5658117 Report Quick Reply
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The main event was great. It was like a longer and slower paced X Division style match but it worked well to Trevor's strengths playing the heel. Really good interactions with the crowd and with Bryce too.

>>5658036
Man I wish, would be good promotion though he did encourage me to subscribe to Floslam if I can't see the show live.

>>5658042
>>5658100
Well Shamrock is a more well known name and had a more memorable run in WWE and was Impact's first world champion. But I agree that he's not worth $20K.

>>5658098
Fuck I should have haha. Next time he comes to NOVA Pro I will.
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Matt Bentley - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 23:13:23 EST ID:zq9WgzM0 No.5659215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Paul London - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 23:25:53 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5659227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just wanted to post this for anyone in NEW territory. There's a show in Pomona NY the next day, the only person promoted for it right now is Rey but given how NEW likes to book big names for both shows in a weekend, it may be likely that Penta is booked for that show as well.

Odd that he's promoted as Pentagon Jr. and I hope AAA doesn't try to fuck with them over that.
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Justin King - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 03:05:00 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5659341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I hope this leads to more DG guys in the UK.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 09:47:59 EST ID:ChkrNFTS No.5659562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659341

As long as they're not all just lumped with XWA in fucking Colchester.
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C. Red - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 11:09:14 EST ID:bv3vR+yG No.5659625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659341

>DG talent coming to UK
>Fucking Colchester
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Justin King - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 12:34:43 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5659687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659562
>>5659625
It's not ideal, but baby steps.
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 13:41:42 EST ID:0h/b6cYK No.5659752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659341
And bow Daisuke Sekimoto is heading there on July.

What's with these Brit indies in towns I keep hearing Brits complain are in bumfuck nowhere booking all this great Japanese indie talent?
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 14:01:35 EST ID:0h/b6cYK No.5659791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>New Japan star Billy Gunn
Beautiful
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Berlyn - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 14:29:04 EST ID:THN67928 No.5659866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659791
Billy Gunn dream match tour still going strong
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 14:33:33 EST ID:0h/b6cYK No.5659879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh, and for the record, Ibushi is still being the madman in the UK.
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 14:34:34 EST ID:0h/b6cYK No.5659883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5659879
Fug
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 15:40:11 EST ID:ChkrNFTS No.5659980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659752

XWA must get a lot of engagement money on twitter or something through the founders retweeting all their tweets and replies en masse. Other than that, fuck knows.
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 15:59:30 EST ID:0h/b6cYK No.5660035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So 16 Carat is over and all 3 nights sounded like hoots. The winner of the tournament was Ilja Dragunov over WALTER. This happened too.
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Vince McMahon - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 16:49:49 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5660114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660035
Never heard of him. Context?
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Hajime Ohara - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 17:02:31 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5660156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660035

Holy shit they really are pushing him.

I need to catch up a bit on wXw.
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Justin King - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 17:05:39 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5660166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659883
God bless Ibushi.
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 17:35:45 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.5660224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659883
Just saw the full clip of this. Ibushi starts fucking shooting the fireworks at himself. He's an absolute lunatic.
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Honky Tonk Man - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 17:56:14 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5660262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659883
Seeing Ibush shoot fireworks at himself on a car and then moonsault off it is my favorite moment of 2017 so far.
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Trinity - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:36:14 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5660345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660224
Joey is cramping on his style so he has to step it up somehow
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Vickie Guerrero - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:39:06 EST ID:yOBYCwP/ No.5660352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659341
Enough meme wrestlers.
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Trent Acid - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:43:33 EST ID:aOtE6y5m No.5660360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660345
Neither man has indicated any intention of it to my knowledge, but it is my belief that the wrestling gods themselves are surrepitously building to a feud between these two that will finally complete the postmodern deconstruction of pro wrestling that's been taking place the past few years.
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DashingCN - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 18:44:29 EST ID:qJzeTsS1 No.5660362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659883

any video of this yet?
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Sami Callihan - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:18:50 EST ID:cSppliN5 No.5660423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5660360
This will lead to UFC fixing it's fights and the circle becoming complete
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:20:17 EST ID:tarI869j No.5660426 Report Quick Reply
Full results from CZW Proving Grounds and wXw 16 Carat Gold:

http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/03/12/czw-031117-proving-grounds-results/
http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/03/12/wxw-16-carat-2017-results/

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 12-03-2017 19:20:59
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Bobby Dempsey - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:29:51 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.5660441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660362
https://twitter.com/MrLARIATO/status/840996660092256256
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Kanyon - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 20:35:13 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5660521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660441
Wait shit is Lariato a /wooo/kie?
What promotion/match was this anyway?
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Abraham Washington - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:59:23 EST ID:BjRm2Qdu No.5660706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5660441
>tfw no broken hardys vs golden lovers fireworks match
matches for wwn mania weekend will be annouced tomorrow
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Zack Sabre Jr. - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 23:26:53 EST ID:MbMFdgxt No.5660723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Abdullah the Butcher - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 23:50:28 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5660734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660723
j e e z u s
tittyfucking
christ
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Juventud Guerrera - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 23:59:46 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5660739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660723
I googled Bryan Idol just to see who he was and if he's worked anywhere I would know of, and the guy has literally 15 followers on Twitter. I'm a literally who on Twitter and I have over 5 times that.

Janela's really just doing fucking whatever with this match, it's insane.
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Mercedes Martinez - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:27:42 EST ID:HWnYaYKY No.5660746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660723

Oh yes I do remember seeing Jervis dancing in the background of that Hips Don't Lie video
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:10:08 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5661086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lineup for the WWN Mania week Supershow:

>Possible EVOLVE Title match: Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Mark Haskins
>Possible EVOLVE Title match: ACH vs. Pete Dunne
>Travis Banks & TK Cooper vs. Chris Dickinson & Jaka
>Ethan Page vs. Jimmy Havoc
>SHINE Title: Su Yung vs. LuFisto
>Keith Lee vs. Jason Kincaid
>Drew Galloway vs. Fred Yehi vs. Jon Davis vs. Matt Riddle vs. Parrow vs. Tracy Williams
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Reckless Youth - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:26:52 EST ID:QHjULHjf No.5661101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5661086
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Irwin R. Schyster - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:33:41 EST ID:THN67928 No.5661110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661086
ACH vs Dunne sounds like a real good time
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Erik Watts - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:40:33 EST ID:UaBjGfgY No.5661121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661086
>Liverpool's noombah 1 not on the card
AYE!
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Rayna Von Tash - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:42:06 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5661125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661121
I hope there's a legit reason he's not on the card, and not traveling with PROGRESS. Because it'd be dumb as fuck to just leave out one of their best guys and most over heel
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Gran Naniwa - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:43:51 EST ID:bv3vR+yG No.5661127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661086

ACH/ Dunne is going to be great. Glad Haskins is in such a high profile match in his debut but would have loved to see him against someone else. Also Gabe missed an oppurtunity not having Havoc and Darby Allin murder each other.

Also looking forwad to Dirty Daddy powerbombing Dahlia.
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Gran Naniwa - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:45:16 EST ID:bv3vR+yG No.5661128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661125

Would imagine him not being booked on this card has something to do with his WOS contract maybe?
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:49:51 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5661243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661128

Hasn't stopped Rampage and others doing WCPW iPPVs, so I don't know. There is the possibility he just isn't flying out, unlike the folks who are there but aren't on the WWN cards because of exclusivity deals and the like. No idea what he's doing instead, there are shows on in the UK but no clue what he's up to himself.
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Generalissimo Takada - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:57:12 EST ID:0h/b6cYK No.5661258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5661086
>SPPT vs Pazuzu
>Kincaid vs Keith Lee
>ACH vs PETER
>4 guys that are great and two guys that have a chance to prove themselves that I've never seen
M-M-M-M-MAXIMUM HYPE
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 15:56:43 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5661404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661258

And then a ZSJ match to kill all that Hype instantly.
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:12:13 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5661418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5659980

Well their London show with Sekimoto is fucking £44 for standing general admission and another £22 for an in ring photo with Sekimoto... PLUS FEES.

Their Colchester shows are a little more reasonably priced but still pretty high for a 1000 seater gym hall.
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Manami Toyota - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:41:22 EST ID:/QRGjWkL No.5661438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5658100
I think it's more Shamrock doesn't want to do those shows, so he puts his figure way high and $20k is his "Offer you can't refuse" amount sort of thing. Lots of big bands do something similar for private/corporate gigs and the like.

>>5660706
>James "Snoozefest" Drake
>Not Zack Gibson

smh PROGRESS.
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Gran Naniwa - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:44:59 EST ID:bv3vR+yG No.5661443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661438

Yeah, haven't really seen the appeal of James Drake so far.
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Rob Van Dam - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 17:31:50 EST ID:ut8Cc5HU No.5661520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5660723
JOEY JANELA: ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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Juventud Guerrera - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 17:56:32 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5661537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661443
He was in the WWE UK thing. That's the only reason I can think of. Even then, Dunne/Bate/Seven would be enough to grab attention, and if they needed another bring over Devlin despite him only working PROGRESS once. You could get Burch/Stone too, he's already working shows that weekend.
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Player Dos - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:21:05 EST ID:rjyJVm92 No.5661692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Got back from WCPW London.

Was nice. Good wrestling all round. It was neat because I saw some guys for the first time ever, which is always cool.

Crowd was a bit... uhh... yeah... though.

People were recording matches on their phones, standing up and randomly chanting dumb shit.

One guy was incredibly fucking weird, seriously the most awkward moment I have ever seen

>Punter goes up to the Swords Of Essex merch table
>Asks if he can pay to get a kiss from Bea Priestly
>Will laughs it off and tells the guy to buy some merch or bugger off (I think)
>Punter gets pissy and throws a pamphlet at Wills face
>Will throws it back in his face and tells him to fuck off or he'll batter the cunt (that's the gist of what he said)
>Punter tries to shake Will's hand and apologise
>Will ignores him
>Punter fucks off

My friend was closer to the merch table and told me exactly what happened but I saw the pamphlet exchange.
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Bad News Brown - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:28:45 EST ID:6OKrTM7O No.5661722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5660723
>Veda and Jervis
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:30:59 EST ID:hwZzg41J No.5661725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5661692
speaking of will
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Asya - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:45:07 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5661750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661725
Feels like we've hardly seen Will since the heel turn. Robinson is injured right? Excited to see where they go with him
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:02:39 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5661890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661692

Yeah, it was a good show. I really hope that the tag title match comes across as the super-fun car crash it was, and not just a car crash. I thought it stayed just enough under control despite there being definite errors, so even though all four guys probably ended up concussed it was still just an absolute blast of a match.

Love what they're doing with the Prestige too, I'd say it's the first stable WCPW have really put together than has proper potential. It helps that all four guys are fantastic, of course.

I had the same issues with the crowd, especially during the Rampage and Viper matches, but luckily the wrestling seems to be more than making up for any (subjectively) sub-standard crowd WCPW draw at the moment, and I'm glad that even with Blampied back in a major role the "WCPW stink" as it were doesn't seem to be lingering over things at all. I dunno, I'm just glad that I feel like there's stuff to praise WCPW about again, tonight was a very fun show.

>>5661725

This has to be one of the strongest cards Progress have ever produced, fucking hell.

>>5661750

Aye, probably for the best as it's allowed them to focus on the stuff between Jimmy and BSS but I imagine that Will's gonna cost Havoc at Ch45, setting things up more between them going forward (and probably setting up Andrews-Dunne for Orlando or SSS16 in the aftermath). I'd hope Ospreay will be in the country for the April/May shows (Lucha Forever are up and running then and I'd be surprised if he wasn't on site for those shows) but Invasion Attack and BOSJ may complicate that, fuck knows.
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:18:54 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5661913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In case anybody think Lio Rush might still be with ROH, Gabe announced him for EVOLVE 81.
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Mad Man Pondo - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:30:10 EST ID:THN67928 No.5661929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5661913
>Rush vs ACH
>Rush vs Galloway
>Rush vs Yehi
>more Rush vs Kincaid
>more Rush vs Dijak

hype af
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Anthony Nese - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:34:21 EST ID:0h/b6cYK No.5661938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They found Kyle.
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Arnold Skaaland - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:43:18 EST ID:t9zIEOH3 No.5661956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5661938
AWWWWWW SHIT
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Mad Man Pondo - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:48:00 EST ID:THN67928 No.5661967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's pretty fuckin weird that leaving ROH is the most exciting thing an indy wrestler can do at this point. Wouldn't have called that one.
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:55:42 EST ID:hwZzg41J No.5661985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661938
did he go somewhere?
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:01:14 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5662000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661985
The wilds of Canada.
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Mokes - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:03:23 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5662007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Second match for their March 31st card announced.

It's for Crummels and Defarge's Campeonatos de Parejas!
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:29:22 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5662073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661913

He originally announced him for the WWN Supershow but took him out of the Facebook announcement, I guess he got his wires crossed. But yeah, gonna be real interesting to see what he does there. Rush vs. Haskins hopefully while Mark's over in the States.
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A.J. Styles - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:39:23 EST ID:SX/fA8qW No.5662085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5662007
Chuck looks.... different.
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Rey Mysterio - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 01:22:23 EST ID:Qb0akJj1 No.5662156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5662085
Almost looks like Stokely Hathaway right?

You should see who that Dustin guy looks like.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:30:45 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5662589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Full EVOLVE 81 card:

>Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Michael Elgin
>Fred Yehi vs. Matt Riddle
>Keith Lee vs. Donovan Dijak
>Tracy Williams, Chris Dickinson & Jaka vs. Jason Kincaid, Sammy Guevara & Austin Theory
>Drew Galloway vs. Lio Rush
>Timothy Thatcher vs. ACH
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Michael Tarver - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:32:02 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5662591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5662589
>Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Michael Elgin
I'm glad this is finally getting booked on principle. And for a title Zack's holding, no less.
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:38:47 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5662596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5662589
>Yehi vs Riddle
>Keith Lee vs Dijak being the new hot-ticket everybody-needs-to-book this match
>That fucking trios match
>Galloway vs Rush
ZSJ/Elgin and Thatch/ACH sound good too. My god Gabe is on a roll.

>>5662591
They worked together in RevPro for the RevPro title last year though. It was alright.
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:50:27 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5662605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here's what's confirmed for Beyond Wrestling Caffeine (Bell Time 11:59PM on 4/1):
>Donovan Dijak vs Matt Riddle in what will likely be the blowoff to their bloodfeud
>Keith Lee vs Jeff Cobb
>Da Hit Squad vs Unbreakable Fucking Machines
>Deonna Purazzo vs Lufisto
>AR Fox, Joey Janela, and Penelope Ford also confirmed for the show

>>5662596
Forgot to react to this, so assume this is my face for both EVOLVE 81 and Beyond. Holy fuck the Beyond card has some BIG BOI bouts.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:55:22 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5662609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5662591

It's a non-title match. They did have the RevPro title match last year that I really enjoyed though.
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Ron Harris - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:58:58 EST ID:ceBmtCEg No.5662613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5662605
>Donovan Dijak vs Matt Riddle in what will likely be the blowoff to their bloodfeud
>Keith Lee vs Jeff Cobb
>Da Hit Squad vs Unbreakable Fucking Machines
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Michael Tarver - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 15:35:29 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5662658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5662596
>>5662609
My bad, I remember seeing that card but not the match itself so totally forgot.

>Jason Kincaid
I'm glad for him, he's got a regular spot on the indies' throughroad to WWE, but for FUCK'S SAKE ROH get it together! Losing good talent isn't enough? You've moved on to not signing it in the first place now?!
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Asya - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:56:47 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5662806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Finally subscribed to PROGRESS, felt bad not supporting them in anyway since I don't go their shows and just watch on /wooo/tube.

Time to go all the way back to Chapter 1 and see all the early chapters. Does anybody know if you can watch them on Xbox one/Xbox 360?
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Joe E. Legend - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:17:33 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5662911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Beyond just put out some news on their 4/1 card
I don't know which matches are new so I'll just list them all so far

Matthew Riddle vs. Donovan Dijak
Keith Lee vs. Jeff Cobb
Unbreakable F'n Machines (Brian Cage & Michael Elgin) vs. Da Hit Squad (Dan Maff & Steve Mack)
Deonna Purrazzo vs. LuFisto

Scheduled to appear:
AR Fox
Joey Janela with Penelope Ford (Janelope Open Challenge)
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Joe E. Legend - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:25:14 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5662921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5662911
i'm retarded nb
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Brooklyn Brawler - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 23:44:09 EST ID:DWq1+x2S No.5663289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZdzIT4_80s
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Prince Iaukea - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:42:51 EST ID:P+mXq6NN No.5663314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5662085
You could say the SJW agenda has finally made Chikara race change Chuck Taylor like this comic book movies do
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Togi Makabe - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:14:15 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5663330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jervis Cottonbelly just lost Wrestle Circus's 24/7 Sideshow Championship to The entirety of circlejerk by "submitting" a post to it.
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zane !rInx4GYeGc - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:17:44 EST ID:e5yAn/2A No.5663332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://twitter.com/kondron

Highly recommend looking at Kevin Condron's twitter over the past day, a lot of interesting things said.

Most interestingly is that he wasn't paid more than $30 a match at Chikara and he wasn't allowed to sell merch because he was a heel.
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Amasis - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:23:16 EST ID:i9JxitFA No.5663334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5663330
That has lead to this announcement. What a match this might be.
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Chael Sonnen's Left Testicle - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 02:26:23 EST ID:l1uWmc0I No.5663359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5663332

He talks a load of shite, don't believe his lies. He stole his damn character from Chikara.

He claimed that WrestleCircus' last show which was on iPPV had 20k pirated LIVE STREAMS which is bullshit, it wasn't even streamed on Taima and the XWT torrent had around 200 people download it and that was a week after he tweeted this out.

WrestleCircus is carny as fuck, just a money mark that was pissed he didn't get as many people to buy the show as expected. He's sad about losing money yet has 10 match cards with several multi-man matches. Them teaming up with circlejerk, which promotes piracy, isn't the smartest plan if somehow the bullshit claims are true.
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Steve Blackman - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 03:16:50 EST ID:cSppliN5 No.5663378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663332
>He talks a load of shite, don't believe his lies. He stole his damn character from Chikara.
Chikara put a hand-me-down mask on a pretty Tyler Seguin-looking nigga who by all accounts is naturally unlikable, and made him play babyface. They paid him and their other homegrown talent dogshit money like the typical indieshit company they are. Then Quack fucked a bridge troll "woman wrestler" and had to shut down his company for a fucking year or whatever, so not only were his Mon-er-Wrestle Factory talent not getting paid (even though they barely were before), they also weren't getting exposure. And you're defending this creepy kayfabe tax-dodge cult?

>He claimed that WrestleCircus' last show which was on iPPV had 20k pirated LIVE STREAMS which is bullshit, it wasn't even streamed on Taima and the XWT torrent had around 200 people download it and that was a week after he tweeted this out.
>WrestleCircus is carny as fuck, just a money mark that was pissed he didn't get as many people to buy the show as expected. He's sad about losing money yet has 10 match cards with several multi-man matches. Them teaming up with circlejerk, which promotes piracy, isn't the smartest plan if somehow the bullshit claims are true.

As long as he's paying these fuckers more than gas money that's fine by me. If he guilt trips more people into buying the show that's great for them too.
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Daffney - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 04:27:32 EST ID:YF9bdXbg No.5663406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663359
>WrestleCircus
>carny as fuck

Really?
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Chris Masters - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:51:07 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5663495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Was just looking at the PROGRESS top 10 matches of 2016 list, must have missed it when it was published

>10. Adam Cole/Ospreay
>9. Dunne/ZSJ
>8. Scurll/Ospreay
>7. Riddle/Ospreay
>6. Tommy End/Hero
>5. Haskins/Gargano
>4. Scurll/End/Haskins
>3. London Riots/War Machine
>2. Hero/Mandrews
>1. Hero/Scurll

Pretty crazy Ospreay went like a year without winning a match. Noticed how little ZSJ was involved in any top matches too, people really are going off him. Feels bad that Hero is gone, although WWE let PROGRESS use End so maybe there might be more Hero down the line. RingKampf vs SPPT, Pastor vs Sebastian and Scurll vs Havoc are probably locks for the 2017 list already
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Muscle Sakai - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:05:39 EST ID:TyjWo4vy No.5663526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5661418
Just saw this and it's not only £40 odds, it's £40 odds for standing in the *Resistance Gallery* which is about the size of a normal house's kitchen. It probably costs a mint to fly these guys out but that price for that venue is highway robbery imo
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A.J. Lee - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:17:01 EST ID:sl5z0JOb No.5663538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663330

>jervis cottonbelly is kevin condron
>kevin condron is the founder of squaredcircle
>'jervis' claims mass piracy of WrestleCircus iPPV, despite there being literally no way to pirate the show at the time.
>jervis awards squaredcircle the wrestlecircus title, and promotes a match "featuring" squaredcircle in it.

that's honestly pretty fucking carny and the idiots over there are eating it up. he's obviously got a financial stake in the promotion or some sorta ties to it, using that to promote the fuck out of wrestlecircus in hopes that the next iPPV will do good business (it won't).

would feel so much better about them doing it if they weren't so fucking scummy about the piracy before.
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Bison Smith - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:55:11 EST ID:THN67928 No.5663571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And EVOLVE rounds out their Mania weekend announcements with the full card for 80:

>EVOLVE Championship: Zack Sabre Jr vs ACH
>EVOLVE Tag Team Championship: Tracy Williams & Fred Yehi vs Donovan Dijak & Michael Elgin
>Drew Galloway vs Matt Riddle
>Keith Lee vs Ricochet
>Timothy Thatcher vs Chris Dickinson
>Jaka vs Jason Kincaid
>Austin Theory vs Ethan Page

Also they put out another one of those fantastic mini-docs, this one about Ethan Page murdering Darby Allin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij3ZIim5ufA&feature=youtu.be
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DJ Skittlez - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:04:04 EST ID:lTaOfzj0 No.5663580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663495
thats a pretty good list
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Aurora Rose Levesque - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:13:55 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5663604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663538
damn you really are rustled by a promoter playing to his base

why are you so angry if he talks people (who browse a forum that this board detests) into spending money on a show?
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Mae Young - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:42:40 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5663855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So uh, Joey Janela did an interview with fucking Sports illustrated
not sure whether to post it here or social media thread, but here you go, it's at the bottom

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/03/15/wwe-week-wrestling-big-show-shaq-christopher-daniels?xid=socialflow_twitter_si
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:44:47 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5663856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Progress really ramping the promo work back up for this weekend's Chapter show.

Nathan Cruz's promo especially is something seriously fucking good. Almost forgot how great of a talker he can be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZdzIT4_80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyLxsHsniFc
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:08:01 EST ID:8VL+JX2M No.5663877 Report Quick Reply
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A lot of big matches signed for WCPW's next three shows. We should also be able to show Chain Reaction next week in Britwres Tube.
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Togi Makabe - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:12:23 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5663881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663877
Very much enjoying the trend of Bullet Club vs whoever 6/8/10-man tag matches where Adam Cole is consistently the worst wrestler in the match.

The 7-Way and Riddle/Ospreay/Scurll sound like fire tbh
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:19:18 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5663884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663877

There were a couple other matches confirmed for Bulletproof at the Chain Reaction taping, one of which could be seriously fucking mad. Cody Rhodes will defend the Deep Web Title against whoever wins an online poll between Joe Hendry and Gabriel Kidd. Swords of Essex are defending the tag titles in a four-way against Prospect, The Young Bucks, and a team of Johnny Moss and Matt Riddle.
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DJ Skittlez - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:50:47 EST ID:lTaOfzj0 No.5663920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663877
riddle vs will vs marty
******
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znEHH68unzA
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Mokes - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:06:17 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5663991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The main event for Chikara's April 1st show, Bad Wolf, has been announced. UltraMantis Black defends his Grand Championship of CHIKARA against Juan Francisco de Coronado! Can The Devious One out-maneuver the Ecuadorian Aristocrat and retain his title?

It's mah boy JFDC's time to shine!
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DJ Skittlez - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:32:09 EST ID:lTaOfzj0 No.5664017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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whoahhhhhhhhhh
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Aurora Rose Levesque - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:04:40 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5664041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664017
so i guess anthem really does have a trademark claim on the Broken gimmick
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:20:47 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5664049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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another apparent loss for ROH
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Private Eye - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:27:18 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5664054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664049
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

Expecting Castle any day now.
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Togi Makabe - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:28:56 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5664055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664049
First ROH loss that might actually be a good thing, too. Fish has zero purpose on the roster, and he barely did when Kyle was still around anyway. His spot in the upper-midcard and lower-main event as a face is now open, and I'm crossing every available finger of mine that they fill it with somebody good (Castle perhaps, except that they should put the title on Castle). Maybe working with the wider talent pool of the indies will make Bobby feel fresh.
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Aurora Rose Levesque - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:50:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5664086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664055
>His spot in the upper-midcard and lower-main event as a face is now open, and I'm crossing every available finger of mine that they fill it with somebody good
name one non-Dalton Castle option

So we can expect to see ReDragon on Gabe's Wrestlemania weekend FloSlam shows then?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:50:58 EST ID:tarI869j No.5664087 Report Quick Reply
>>5664049
Guess it makes sense why Lethal won now. Fish is a decent wrestler and promo but pretty bland character wise. Dunno if he'll stay in NJPW now and he's not a big enough name for WWE to be signing at his age like this. I could see him end up in TNA and a way back into NOAH.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:51:33 EST ID:tarI869j No.5664088 Report Quick Reply
>>5664086
Marty Scurll
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EVIL - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:52:57 EST ID:7mXrZGOQ No.5664092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5664049
Whoopie-fucking-doo, and thus KOR's lack of appearance starts to make sense. They'll be in a certain crowd together I assume, same old shit.
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Kanyon - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:55:19 EST ID:2Z1wFF/F No.5664094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664049
To the surprise of no one
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Tim Donst - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:08:52 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5664112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664086
They could do what reDRagon and Briscoes did with War Machine and have them also compete in singles action. I think Hanson is qualified to fill that slot. Ospreay maybe, but he's splitting his time with New Japan and still lives in the UK. The boring answer is Chris Sabin.
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The Jackyl - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:31:41 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5664144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664092
Bobby Fish is already 40 years old and has never been a big name, I doubt he'd get a spot in NXT unless he takes a really shit wage
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Chris Sabin - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:39:53 EST ID:GFM38SPC No.5664162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663991
I like JFDC, I don't think he's winning this though, Mantis will retain by some dickery I reckon.
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Chris Sabin - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:41:07 EST ID:GFM38SPC No.5664164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664162

Oh, and Kondron is "Shooting" on CHIKARA on twitter. Expect a return by him soon.
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Cheech Hernandez - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:50:08 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5664180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664112
War Machine are going to NJPW
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Tracy Smothers - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:50:45 EST ID:tibKulms No.5664182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663991
Wait, didn't UMB retire?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:53:58 EST ID:tarI869j No.5664190 Report Quick Reply
>>5664182
It was a work
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Chris Sabin - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:54:26 EST ID:GFM38SPC No.5664192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664182
He got better.

Storyline is that once freed of Nazmaldun's hex on him, his time off has let him heal, he goes on to beat Wicked in Season 17, and is the champ in season 18.
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Chris Sabin - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:56:58 EST ID:GFM38SPC No.5664198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664190
Kinda. I think he needed time off to get his knees fixed, or to rehab or let them recuperate, so the knee injury was written in to take care of that, so he could still appear, just on crutches and whatnot, while it healed.
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Cheech Hernandez - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:02:21 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5664213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664088
Marty has a one year deal with a get-out clause 6 months in. He's not sticking around

plus he's too small
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The Jackyl - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:09:07 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5664225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Watching PROGRESS Chapter 1, Zack Gibson with a full head of hair looks fucking hilarious now.

Looks like he belongs on the 2nd floor of the Krazyhouse, if there's any other scousers around who get that reference
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Chris Sabin - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:25:09 EST ID:GFM38SPC No.5664236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So. In other CHIKARA news The Whisper is another Condor agent from Missile Assault Man's past, and has just linked this on Twitter: https://thejournalofaxelford.tumblr.com/

So yay, more evildoers.
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Tank - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:41:54 EST ID:i9JxitFA No.5664314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:55:06 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5664332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664087
Wouldn't be shocked if he and Kyle end up in WWE as a package deal. Nothing against Kyle's ability, but I feel like he has a ceiling similar to Biff being in a WWE environment. Front row seats at Takeover.

>>5664086
I would say Hanson and Raymond Rowe, but they also might be on their way out. Jonathan Gresham would be another, but ROH seems to see him only as a prelim guy/good hand to use on occasion. Mark Briscoe on his own, but the Briscoes are pigeonholed into a tag setting for the time being.

The real answer is Cheeseburger.
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Shawn Michaels - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 23:01:37 EST ID:cSppliN5 No.5664339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664332
The answer is always Cheeseburger.
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Sarita - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 23:07:59 EST ID:THN67928 No.5664347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664332
The real answer is Bull James
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 23:27:44 EST ID:tarI869j No.5664362 Report Quick Reply
>>5664332
The actual answer is Punishment Martinez
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Elix Skipper - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:13:16 EST ID:6xMn0YIy No.5664423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664225
are we sure thats not a picture of kurt cobain?
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:51:05 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5664473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664362
He will be someone moved up. He was sort of stuck in the mud with the Sullivan/Whitmer angle but now that that has disappeared, they seem to be keen on giving him some actual opportunities. Hopefully it works out for him.
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zane !rInx4GYeGc - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:55:51 EST ID:e5yAn/2A No.5664485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://twitter.com/PinkieSanchez/status/842209568050540544

Pinkie Sanchez joining the club of accusing Quack of stiffing him. Including threatening him a couple tweets later.
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Chris Sabin - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:20:11 EST ID:GFM38SPC No.5664618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664485
Forgive me if I don't believe the guy. If it came fron someone more reputable, then yeah, but Pinkie is a sketchy mofo at the best of times, so I'm not buying it. Also, if you wanted your pay that bad, why didn't you take it from quack right then and there?

Reeks of BS to me.
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Tim Donst - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:54:44 EST ID:Rs0z7R11 No.5664640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664362
I find it hard to see Punishment working as a babyface, but maybe all he'll have to do is attack Whitmer to get cheered. But he will for sure be moved up soon.
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zane !rInx4GYeGc - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 03:56:05 EST ID:e5yAn/2A No.5664642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664618
Okay Mokes.
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Crimson - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 04:05:39 EST ID:QK2dFIZV No.5664652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664485
Larry Sweeney said in one of his last interviews that the only guy he disliked in wrestling was Pinkie Sanchez and that if their got booked in a match together he would drop Pinkie on his head.
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WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:50:28 EST ID:C8JBGLJj No.5664931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>– It was previously reported that Lio Rush was returning to EVOLVE, and is working the EVOLVE 81 event over WrestleMania weekend. This of course led to a lot of speculation regarding his status with Ring of Honor. PWinsider now reports that Rush’s ROH deal is up shortly, “and the word making the rounds” is that he has given the company notice that he wasn’t going to sign another exclusive deal with the promotion.

So what's the list of talent ROH has lost in 2017? Michael Elgin, Donovan Dijak, Lio Rush, Keith Lee, Kyle O'Reilly, Bobby FIsh... am I missing anybody?
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Cyrus - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:57:20 EST ID:d6ZApn0S No.5664938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664931
Adam Cole's contract expires in May.
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Rachel Summerlyn - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:57:57 EST ID:ZD/9iBmT No.5664940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664931
Mike was gone last year.

Keith Lee wasn't ever there full-time, was he?

>Bobby Fish
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Terri Runnels - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:00:20 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5664944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664940
Yeah Keith Lee was a guy that passed them by rather than one they explicitly lost.
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Chris Sabin - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:54:21 EST ID:GFM38SPC No.5664999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664652
Pinkie was also majorly into durgz around that time, so Sweeney may be speaking about druggy Pinkie, he's supposedly clean now.

Either way, it was (according to kingston) a rule that you show up on time, Pinkie broke the rule, and wasn't man enough to stand up to Quack about it.
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Phineas I. Godwinn - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:07:10 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5665977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Disappointed that the Mack in Carat Gold is the Mack that fucking sucks.

I also realized how much he looks like Sabre so I'm gonna start calling him Black Sabre Jr.
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Awesome Kong - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:13:16 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5665981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5665977
I keep hearing that he's a lot better in wXw than he was in the CWC. He's certainly a lot more over. I think it might be that he's a tag guy that doesn't really get singles match pacing as well, but since Dieter Jr. turned heel and Ringkampf became a thing, he's sort of been without a partner.

Really tempted to get a month of wXw for the FIVE shows they ran last weekend and some backlog stuff like Dead End a few Shotgun matches I've heard praise for. I've heard they have every single Shotgun defense David Starr made in the US too, so that means Starr vs Keith Lee is on there.
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Sonny Onoo - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:15:08 EST ID:aaeYs7me No.5665984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Anyone else going to the WCPW show in Manchester?

It's a really weird card. Like they've amassed some really great talent (Scurll, Ospreay, Riddle, Bucks, Banks, Ricochet etc) and just put them in the most unappealing matches they could envision.

>Galloway vs Coffey
>ZSJ vs Cole
>7 man clusterfuck
>Ospreay/Wainwright vs Bucks vs Prospect vs Slater/Riddle

Good thing tickets are cheap as fuck.
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Awesome Kong - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:40:59 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5666023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5665984
7-Man is full of great workers though. It'll be a fine high-octane contendership match. Also Slater and Riddle is a fun-sounding team. I'd prefer Riddle and Moss, but whatever.

ZSJ vs Cole is pissbreak personified, though, and I think Zack's had a good 2017 so far.
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Dusty Rhodes - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:41:10 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5666024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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because i can't make sense of any of this shit about Chikara

there's someone on twitter with a dummy Quack account who is saying Kondron had attitude problems -- and apparently that infamous "schoolbus bombing" promo came from Kondron himself

A dummy twitter account is the least reliable source of info but these are weirdly specific accusations to make up. Would not be surprised if it was a right-hand-man of Quack's trying to get this out there

I don't know ...

Gabe is coming out in defense of Quack and Chikara.
And Jimmy Jacobs & Dan Barry are both saying that wrestling for free is just part of paying your dues and if you're passionate enough, you gain experience and make yourself better and more successful

Chris Hero has responded to Kondron to not air dirty laundry like this.

And Eddie Kingston & Bryce have responded to Pinkie Sanchez telling him he knew the rules about being late and if he had an issue he should have spoken to Quack about it like a man

Seems like the only people who have come out *against* Quack are Kondron, Pinkie and Jolly Roger ... and it's not the most credible line-up.

Chikara probably doesn't pay well and I'm sure wrestlers have been tricked into making extra sacrifices because they believed the hype of Chikara's unique way of doing shows. But ... welcome to wrestling.

I think people seem to be flabbergasted that Chikara is run like literally every promotion in the history of existence (which is also how every performing art is run): if you can get entertainers to do it for cheap -- or free - you will take advantage of that
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Rey Bucanero - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:47:45 EST ID:cJPuKNAA No.5666030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666024
If young wrestlers had to be paid decently, most indy promotions would be forced close. That's just how it is. Supply and demand in full force. It's the dilemma of any artist. Either focus on drawing money and get paid, or wrestle in artsy hipster indy promotions. Atleast Chikara was a promotion where you could work a safe style and get over.
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Molly Holly - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:48:34 EST ID:raOZuTRC No.5666033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666024
>And Jimmy Jacobs & Dan Barry are both saying that wrestling for free is just part of paying your dues and if you're passionate enough, you gain experience and make yourself better and more successful

Sounds to me like they are just repeating what some scummy promoters said to them.
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Dusty Rhodes - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:50:44 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5666042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666033
>I want at least $50 for my match tonight
>Fuck off kid, I got a trainee who will do it for ring experience and a hot dog

what are you supposed to do in that situation?
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Molly Holly - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:56:41 EST ID:raOZuTRC No.5666051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666042
Unionize so promoters can't pull that shit.
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Dusty Rhodes - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:04:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5666055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666051
>hey promoter, Flipper X is talking about unionizing the entire locker room

>whoah, thanks for the heads up Trainee Z, you just earned yourself a year of bookings with WWE guys I bring in. Any other guys thinking of forming "collective bargaining power"? I have 12 new trainees ready to take your spot for much cheaper
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:08:44 EST ID:cSppliN5 No.5666059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666051
The only way that could happen realistically is some huge union like SAG-AFTRA (probably the ones with the best shot since they're an entertainment union) bringing it to attention. The union laws in the U.S. are strict as hell, and you need something like half of the employees in a business to opt-in to form one. Most unions in the US started in the early 20th century.
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:09:03 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5666060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The latest match to Wrestlecon's Supershow in Orlando which currently has Pentagon & Fenix/Hardys, Jeff Cobb/Lashley, and a 10-man tag captained by Ricochet and Will Ospreay for the teams.
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Trent Barreta - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:10:48 EST ID:W7juimQX No.5666062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666024
>I think people seem to be flabbergasted that Chikara is run like literally every promotion in the history of existence
yeah, i really don't know who has it in for quack and why. or does this type of drama come up on twitter for other feds, too, and just fly under the radar?

>if you can get entertainers to do it for cheap -- or free - you will take advantage of that
there's certainly some give & take here.

on one hand, no one should work for free - and is a spot at the merch table enough of a payment? these guys, especially the ones low on the card do a lot more than wrestle, too. it should be in a promoter's best interest to keep the boys happy. after all, you'll find your pool of workers willing to work for free if they can get paid elsewhere.

on the other, do we really know how much these small time promoters are pocketing? it sucks to say this, but if the promoter is going home with $20 after expenses, then maybe the undercard guy shouldn't get paid.
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Daisuke Sekimoto - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:31:26 EST ID:cSppliN5 No.5666091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666062
>does this type of drama come up on twitter for other feds, too, and just fly under the radar?
Here and there. Most of it is kept to personal conversations though (which you could argue is the source of the problem). Which promoter will fuck you, which one won't, etc. Even Jim "The Carnivorous Carny" Cornette wrote a long editorial about how wrestlers are getting fucked by promoters and themselves: http://jimcornette.com/fighting-spirit/enemy-within-fsm119
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Husky Harris - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:03:33 EST ID:P4NdRxOY No.5666273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666060
fucking great card
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:08:01 EST ID:yNaswsuw No.5666283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kyle O'Reilly gonna face Zack Sabre Jr. in AAW
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 05:43:27 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5667343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mark Haskins no-showed a Fight Club Pro show yesterday and Ospreay apparently said his match there today might not go ahead. Hopefully nothing shite has happened but there's the possibility he had a plane to catch, I suppose.
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Christy Hemme - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 13:56:10 EST ID:bv3vR+yG No.5667666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any word on what happened with Haskins last night? Fella's gonna start getting a reputation for being flakey.
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Vanguard 1 - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:07:41 EST ID:qoUQWFLB No.5667739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664931
In this absolute fucking state of this company right now, I think the time has come for Adam Page to step up his game. Especially with guys like Daniels and Ray on the roster, who might help him out with promos.
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Jack Evans - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:16:04 EST ID:/K4/Pxau No.5667745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5664931
Who here's excited for the Global Wars Main Event of Okada and Ishii vs Silas Young and that fat guy?
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Alex Riley - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:40:42 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5667763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5667745
I'm more excited for Daniels dropping the ROH title to Tanahashi, who will do his "I'm the ace of NJPW, not anywhere else, I don't give a shit about this place" shtick and never do the Code of Honor. Except he'll still be a face and get cheered and hold the belt for longer than Lethal did.
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Mickie Knuckles - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 18:26:06 EST ID:cSppliN5 No.5667907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5667763
Cole-Daniels-Tanahashi-Cheeseburger

What a prestigious lineage this thing will have
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Jon Moxley - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 19:20:26 EST ID:ytpEPA/P No.5667945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5667907
cheeseburger roh title run would be the only thing that would get me to watch it regularly again
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Alex Riley - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 19:21:20 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5667946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5667907
The prestige ended when Cole became the first-ever 3-time Champ, so why not go crazy?
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Lance Cade - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 20:21:40 EST ID:THN67928 No.5668004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5667907
Cheeseburger vs Rhett Titus for Final Battle 2018 main event
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Zack Sabre Jr. - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 20:49:42 EST ID:P4NdRxOY No.5668057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The FIP card on April 2nd will go in opposite order staring the eight man tag team main event, followed by the title matches and ending with what would normally be the opening match
lol gabe
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:21:28 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5668109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668057
The logic is that fans will probably leave sporadically as the show progresses to make it to Wrestlemania in time for that year long show.
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Zack Sabre Jr. - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:50:18 EST ID:P4NdRxOY No.5668143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668109
that actually makes sense but idk why anyone would wanna go to another mania shitshow
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:55:25 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5668147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668143
Every account I've heard is that the crowd is SO huge and the focus on spectacle is just so that unless a match or segment is utterly horrible the experience is WAY better than just watching tape.

Also Styles carrying Shane to a great brutal 10-minute spotfest, Bray vs Orton, and Neville vs Aries.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:58:41 EST ID:tarI869j No.5668150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's the results from AAW Homecoming last night - http://www.pwponderings.com/2017/03/18/aaw-031717-homecoming-results-live-review/
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:00:15 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5668155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668143
For the record, I don't know for sure if that is the reason for doing the card backwards, but it makes the most sense to me so people going to FIP can see the important matches then go as they please or wait it out and watch the rest of the show. I agree with you though in regards to Wrestlemania.

>>5668147
I would agree with some of this maybe if one has never been to a Wrestlemania. At the moment, it costs roughly $120 just to get in the door and the show looks like garbage to me aside from Aries/Neville and AJ hopefully doing his best with Shane.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 02:04:01 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5668363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Results from tonight's PWG show:

>Brian Cage beats Keith Lee & Sami Callihan in the opener. Adam Cole was injured so Sami was free to join any other match on the card
>Matt Riddle & Jeff Cobb beat OI4K via BroMission on Dave Crist
>Lio Rush beats Trevor Lee through reversing a small package.
>Shane Strickland beats Dezmond Xavier with a Cuerno Killer
>Best Friends beat LDRS via Crunchy from Trent? on ZSJ. LDRS beat them down after the match and Scurll vs. Chuck Taylor in a Reseda Street Fight (because Chuck's a hardcore wrestler now) is made for next month's show.
>Lucha Bros beat Ricochet/Sydal and the Young Bucks with a destroyer combo on Ricochet to FINALLY GET THE FUCKING TAG TITLES OFF THE FUCKING BUCKS! Lots of attire-swapping in this match apparently. We're FREE.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 02:14:31 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5668365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5668363
>This show
Good lord this sounds awesome. PWG is sounding really fresh lately. They must've realized that they need to start diversifying their cards to catch up with other super-indies.
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BurningHammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 02:15:18 EST ID:1YWWt9rR No.5668367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668363
>(because Chuck's a hardcore wrestler now)

kek
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 02:18:07 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5668372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668365

If the rumours are true about Havoc being on the next show then I'm all in on 2017 PWG. 2016 was a bad year for them honestly but they're off to a fucking flier right now
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Tiffany Mellon - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:15:28 EST ID:hIx1VOSl No.5668381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668372
if havoc dont bleed like a stuck pig first match in he aint gettin over his "talents" dont really lend themselves to a reseda crowd[%]
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Johnny Saint - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 05:05:41 EST ID:HG9D5Yg8 No.5668415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668363
Does this mean Trent? gets a title shot?
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Hajime Ohara - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 05:46:14 EST ID:zDpIh+BI No.5668427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TFW not going to PROGRESS today

Looks awesome, gonna mark like a madman if Havoc wins it
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Lance Bravado - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 05:58:22 EST ID:HWnYaYKY No.5668433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Calling it right now, at one point in this year the Hardys will be at PWG.
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Rosa Mendes - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 07:26:06 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5668480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668363
>First spoiler
I'm conflicted I'm not the biggest fan of Sami these days, and I was looking forward to Cage and Lee being big guys, but Sami/Cole was probably my least anticipated match on the card

Also listening to WOR
Dave says Strickland/Xavier was the "worst" (still great) match on the card, which is surprising to me, because those two were absolutely tearing it up in CZW last year. But at the same time, one of the matches has to be the weakest, and it's very hard to pick on paper what would be.
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Minori Makiba - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:25:38 EST ID:sl5z0JOb No.5668501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5663359

he recently admitted to me the numbers were 'misinterpreted', when I asked why don't you disclose that he didn't respond
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Terri Runnels - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 09:31:10 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5668527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5666024
>Kondron by going into business for himself with the schoolbus promo
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
At long last, that shit finally makes sense!

Is this why Jervis never got his Golden Opportunity?
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Terri Runnels - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 10:06:17 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5668546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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btw ROH released a Dalton Castle comp

>>5663571
>Timothy Thatcher vs Chris Dickinsion
My engorged penis.
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Elix Skipper - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 11:21:01 EST ID:cyRxe4JE No.5668603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5666024

Miken is a dweeb who dates a girl who looks like a 12 year old and is obsessed with Chikara.
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Raisha Saeed - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 11:43:32 EST ID:ytpEPA/P No.5668612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668363
that last result gives me hope that we might actually get a new DDT4 this year
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 11:54:04 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5668617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668612
I'm really hoping. There's plenty of great tag teams they could put in it this year. It's a shame we didn't get one last year when they had the ability to use Death By Elbow, but this gives them an opportunity to bring in David Starr and reunite the Juicy Product now that Starr and Dunn are both way better. Right now, I think a good lineup would be:

>Current Champs (obviously a spoiler for last night's show)
>LDRS
>Best Friends
>Chosen Bros
>OI4K
>The Juicy Product
>The Pretty Boy Killers (Shane Taylor's ROH contract should let him work PWG)
>a team that works CZW (EYFBO, Scarlet & Graves, Da Hit Squad, etc.)

Although, if they really wanted to spend the money on a plane ticket from mainland Europe, they could do Ringkampf too. You could even take a shortcut and only fly Dieter OR WALTER and just team them with Thatcher who is also part of the stable. Dieter & Thatcher tagged during 16 Carat so that could work.
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Terri Runnels - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:08:23 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5668626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5668363
>YBs lost the titles to a generic luchador who everyone loves anyway and a hardcore badass with a package piledriver
THE LEGACY CONTINUES 4-0
I DIDN'T THINK PWG COULD PULL IT OFF
BUT THEY DID IT THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING MADMEN

>>5668415
I figure Chuck wins and Trent turns heel on him because I GOT THE PIN I WON THAT SHOT I SHOULD BE CHAMP YOU PHONY REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>5668480
Called it.
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Terri Runnels - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:12:14 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5668631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668617
Needs more Catch Point. Be it tag champs or Doom Patrol. More than about 4 of those teams tbh.
Appreciate the PBK recognition though.
>just team them with Thatcher
PWG hasn't booked Thatcher in over a year.
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 12:27:03 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5668644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5668631
Thatcher worked PWG last May. He was originally Roddy's last PWG match before he had that 5-minute clusterfuck with Sabre. In all fairness, Thatcher has way better gigs going for him in EVOLVE and wXw, so it's fine.

Totally forgot about Catch Point, though. Hot Sauce & Yehi or Dirty Daddy & Jaka would be awesome. Fuck it, DDT4 should be made into a 2-Day 16-Team event. Too many good indie teams out there. Get The Gatekeepers, Tabarnak De Team, War Machine, and The American Destroyers in there.
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Terri Runnels - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 13:21:57 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5668687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5667946
The prestige ended when the Cole won it the FIRST time off of Vacant.
Jay I & Jay II helped build it back up, only for Cole to swooce on in and tear it all down AGAIN.
If anything, Cole winning the belt a 3rd time has been his/its saving grace. You need a good reason for multiple reigns. Aries won it twice because he completely reinvented himself. Briscoe won it twice because it was technically one reign with an interim. Cole won it twice... under shitty circumstances that ruined something potentially great, it was stupid. But doing exactly that a THIRD time? You've got a clear theme. He's the spoiler. Obnoxious, undeserving, kinda unremarkable, but fuck you I'm Adam Cole hahaaaaa. I like how much I hate it.

>>5667907
>>5667763
Funnily enough Daniels has been my dream Tanahashi opponent for a while. He mastered how to counter splash finishers a decade ago. Xavier, Paul London, shit his match with Jack Evans stands as some of the most memorable psychology/storytelling I've ever seen in PWG.
It's really surreal to think it may actually happen.
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Rosa Mendes - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:39:14 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5668778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668626
>Called it.

Which part?
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:27:33 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5668908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668687
You also left out Elgin's reign, which ROH was spending time building up him and Cole for a bit in 2013-2014 but they waited too long on Elgin and he had a rather cold reign with his own issues allowing Briscoe to win it back. Cole also seems to be a guy that ROH has liked for some time when it comes to doing things such as media appearances, which definitely plays a factor with the championship. Lethal also seems to fall into that category.

Lethal's reign probably should have come to an end at the anniversary show a year ago with either Cole or Kyle winning then, but the reign dragged on for a bit longer (with some good matches in there, that being said.) They fell into a weird predicament as they obviously had Cole under contract (at that point) for another year and needed to do something with him but it undercut Kyle in the process who would at least eventually get his moment, but he ended up leaving regardless.
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Chainsaw Charlie - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:15:33 EST ID:nTCC0T5m No.5668964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tfw you waited to long to ask off for progress and/ rev pro in orlando but you have that day off anyway
getting tickets for janelas spring break and maybe evolve 80 aswell
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Egotistico Fantastico - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:30:23 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5669049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5668964
You better post pics.

also zandig booking himself a year after his roof bump in the same show where he broke his back, this dude just doesn't know when to fucking stop
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George The Animal Steele - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:04:52 EST ID:nTCC0T5m No.5669086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669049
im just not sure if i have enough time to uber from progress to revpro
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:24:54 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5669154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668617

>We'll never see DDT4 return and be won by a team of Keith Lee and Willie Mack

For me it'd be

>Current Champions
>Juicy Product
>Trevor Lee & Andrew Everett
>Da Hit Squad
>Chosen Bros
>Will Ospreay & Mark Andrews
>Team Tremendous if Bill Carr ever wrestles again
>Unbreakable F'N Machines

You could also open it up to two days, making it twelve teams with a three-way final. If that was to happen I'd throw in Scarlet & Graves, LDRS, Best Friends and either ReDragon or MCMG.


I'm sure that ASW12 was originally supposed to be a DDT4 given how many teams were around for that, but then something fell through and they changed it.
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:15:15 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I just finished 16 Carat a little while ago, and holy FUCKING shit, while I'd recommend the whole weekend of shows, that fucking tournament final is easily my match of the year. I don't care how, you need to watch that match, BUT only after everything else, because the entire tournament builds to the story of the final, which is pretty integral. I legit went the full ***** on it before it even finished.
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:17:12 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh, and PWG is announcing stuff for Game Over, Man

First match is Rey Fenix vs Lio Rush.
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:21:03 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669188
Next match is KEITH LEE vs JEFF COBB (which Beyond is running a few weeks prior but fuck it, this is a match worth running a dozen times)
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:26:58 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Next three matches are Riddle vs Cole, Haskins vs Elgin, and The Young Bucks vs the debuting War Machine.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:30:31 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5669196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669193

Last match (I imagine, given Sabre-Togo was already announced) is confirmation of Scurll-Chucky T in a Reseda Street Fight.
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:30:39 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And the main event is Chuck Taylor vs Marty Scurll in a Reseda Street Fight. Sounds like another good show.
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:31:35 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669196
Oh right, forgot they announced Sabre/Togo. That should be good too; something tells me Togo will dictate the pace of the match.
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Jonathan Barber - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:34:25 EST ID:HWnYaYKY No.5669204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PREVIEW IS OUT

PWG AND HIGHSPOTS ON RARE FORM!!!
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Jonathan Barber - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:40:59 EST ID:HWnYaYKY No.5669208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669204

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOJAicHE_a0
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Pacman Jones - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:47:13 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669208
Fucking hell Keith/Cage/Callihan looks awesome.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:47:50 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5669212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If only PWG's speed at getting previews out was an indicator of how quick DVDs would be ready.

2017 PWG is still making 2016 PWG look like 2003 PWG though (though that isn't hard)
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Curry Man - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:49:10 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5669214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5669208
>that big boy tope
>sami does a canadian destroyer on keith lee
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Minori Makiba - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:58:34 EST ID:ytpEPA/P No.5669262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669208
everything about this looks fire
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Big Boss Man - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:21:51 EST ID:hIx1VOSl No.5669283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669212
thats not on them thats on highspots pwg themselves have gotten a lot better about turnaround bola was completely locked by like the tuesday after
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Rick Martel - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:00:26 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5669306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where is the best place to non legally get PWG, or particularly AAW shows?
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Rosita - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:07:03 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5669310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669306
XWT is definitely the best option right now, few months ago spent a few hours getting all of Heros 2016 archived and i got 90% of it from xwt, I think registrations are open
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Rick Martel - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:23:41 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5669397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5669310
Swooce, mah man.

Have some flippy cruiserweights.

nb
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Pacman Jones - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:47:52 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cody got pulled from the next couple of WCPW shows because he's filming Arrow.
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Amasis - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:24:42 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5669758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669193
>Haskins
dank
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:05:00 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5669798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First of four match announcements tonight for Progress Ch46 is Mark Andrews cashing in his Thunderbastard shot to face Pete Dunne. Thought this would happen at Orlando or SSS16, v excited for it to be taking place this weekend.

There's gonna be tag and Atlas defences too plus the possibility of Havoc-Ospreay IV, so should be a stacked show.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:01:35 EST ID:tarI869j No.5669904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We're good to go for showing almost all of the More Than Mania shows in the tubes. The only ones we're not going to show are PROGRESS and maybe EVOLVE 81 due to a streamer schedule conflict due to the time they're on unless someone else wants to stream it, and FIP and ACW since those aren't really a big priority. As for what's playing where, here's the schedule so far:

>March 30 in /wooo/tube 2 - EVOLVE 80 @ 8pm EDT / 1am BST
>March 30 in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt - GCW Joey Janela's Spring Break @ 11:59pm EDT / 4:59am BST
>March 31 in /wooo/tube 2 - EVOLVE 81 @ 4pm EDT / 9pm BST (subject to change)
>March 31 in Chikara Tube - CHIKARA Turn Left @ 8pm EDT / 1am BST & Kaiju Big Battel Kaiju Civil Wars @ 11:59pm EDT / 4:59am BST
>April 1 in /wooo/tube 2 - SHIMMER 91 @ 12pm EDT / 5pm BST & WWN Supershow 2017: Mercury Rising - EVOLVE vs. PROGRESS @ 8pm EDT / 1am BST
>April 1 in Chikara Tube - CHIKARA Bad Wolf @ 4pm EDT / 9pm BST
>April 1 in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt - Beyond Wrestling Caffeine @ 11:59pm EDT / 4:59am BST
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DJ Hyde - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:29:31 EST ID:MbMFdgxt No.5669934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669904
whats the deal with progress is their solo mania weekend show gonna be on ippv?
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Pacman Jones - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:37:58 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5669942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jushin Liger and YOSHI-HASHI aren't going to be able to make Supercard of Honor. They're being replaced with the Guerillas of Destiny. Horrible trade, tbh.

>>5669934
It'll be on FloSlam, but I think it's going to be earlier in the day.
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Reno - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:43:30 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5669953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669904
>gotta get up at 5am for spring break

It'll be worth it probably.
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The Mantaur - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:47:50 EST ID:QHjULHjf No.5669962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669904
thanks C-Higgy, this is why I took off work that whole weekend, looks amazing.
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JV Rich - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:48:22 EST ID:azU85zpD No.5669964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669798
when was the last time a progress show wasnt stacked?
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:52:09 EST ID:gNunGxAp No.5669974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5669942
It is against the Briscoes and Bully Ray who should hopefully be able to pull something decent out of them plus Adam Page has shown he can work well with the Briscoes at least.

They also announced this tag match earlier.
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Karl Anderson - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:25:19 EST ID:Gwn0Zhld No.5670007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5669974
those gringos look like dudes waiting for the bus to go to high school.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:27:18 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5670012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5669798

Other three matches announced tonight are Gibson/Cruz vs. Ligero/Mastiff, Travis Banks vs. Jack Sexsmith, and Toni Storm vs. Dahlia Black in a NPS semi final.

Also, 4FW have announced pic related for May. Christ.
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JV Rich - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:36:53 EST ID:azU85zpD No.5670025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5670012
gimmie dat
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Pacman Jones - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:42:35 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5670033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5670025
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The Wrestler - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:19:44 EST ID:7mXrZGOQ No.5670081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5670025
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zane !rInx4GYeGc - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:28:14 EST ID:e5yAn/2A No.5670090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5670012
So is Low Ki unretired again?
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Pacman Jones - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:30:10 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5670093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5670090
He's been wrestling pretty regularly for a while now. AAW has used him for most of its last several shows. Ki/Homicide/Kingston vs Pentagon/Drago/Cage from this past November was really fun.
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Mima Shimoda - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:32:33 EST ID:raOZuTRC No.5670096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Seems things aren't going well for one of AIW's owners.
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Nigel McGuinness - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:33:13 EST ID:99qb3rZi No.5670097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Limitless Wrestling out of Maine had a pretty killer show Friday night, definitely go out of your way to see Jay Freddie vs Anthony Henry and Ricochet vs Sydal.

I was at Beyond yesterday too. Maxwell Jacob Feinstein (Create A Pro, started wrestling for CZW recently) vs. Wheeler Yuta (CZW dojo student as far as I know) from the "secret" show was a great match and from the main card Jay Freddie/John Silver/Hot Sauce Tracy Williams/Jon Gresham and the Da Hit Squad/Joey Janela and Penelope Ford main event were probably the best.
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Pacman Jones - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:39:02 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5670106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5670097
I really want to go to Beyond one day. Such great atmosphere and fantastic cards.
>DHS vs Janelope main evented
Nice. What did you think of THE spot that's getting a bit of Twitter buzz? The one where Penelope gets speared full-force mid-cartwheel?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:58:00 EST ID:tarI869j No.5670254 Report Quick Reply
>>5670096
That really sucks. I hope he pulls through.
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El Zorro - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:41:01 EST ID:99qb3rZi No.5670355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5670106

It looked way crazier live than on tape. The one angle Beyond is showing on twitter still looks cool, and they timed it perfect, but you can really see Maff protect her (as he should, cause that bump could go real wrong in a hurry).

Finish was sick, one of DHS speared through a table in the corner and Janela threw a chair at the other one who held it while eating an elbow or something. Joey then put the chair on him and hit a double stomp for the win. Penelope looked really strong taking all the offense she did and giving some back too, and Janela looked awesome. He should be everywhere.

Underrated part of the match was either Mack or Maff had Penelope alone in the ring and started jawing at her, and said something like "why don't you get your tits done, make your face up pretty, and go down the road to Connecticut and be one of THOSE divas because you don't belong here" or something like that, I'm paraphrasing. And instead of getting cheered or anything (like you see at some indie shows where people yelling or chanting sexist things during IG or women's matches is the norm), the crowd booed him down and Penelope started hitting some forearms that she was laying in pretty hard while the crowd cheered. Kind of a cool moment and another reason why 2017 is a little better place for that type of thing than even a few years ago.
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Mokes - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:14:13 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5670438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The next match for Chikara's first WM weekend show, Bad Wolf, has been announced! The Young Lions Cup will be on the line! The Space Monkey will be in action to face the challenge of Wani!
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Kevin Kelly - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:34:21 EST ID:ZM15qHs+ No.5671306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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bro
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Tursas - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:44:56 EST ID:mY+PVUK5 No.5671385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5671306
Ringkampf gonna have 2 barn burners on one night.

Riddle vs WALTER in 16 Carat was great, and this should be able to surpass it with a title on the line.
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Kevin Kelly - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:52:28 EST ID:ZM15qHs+ No.5671393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5671385
Ringkampf has a future tag title match too
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:09:38 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5671414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5671393

This entire card is unbelievably good. Shame that they're having to do BSS-Hunters which could not be more of a foregone conclusion, but the 7 matches so far could all be likely show stealers on most indie cards. Throw in what sounds like a Havoc-Ospreay match to be announced tomorrow with some serious stipulations packed in, and this is gonna be an utterly mental show.
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El Zorro - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:13:28 EST ID:99qb3rZi No.5671417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5671393

Forgot about that. SPPT vs Ring Kampf was absolutely fantastic and I think BSS/Ring Kampf will be even better
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Christie Ricci - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 23:04:15 EST ID:o7qxumtb No.5671780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5671414
do you think it could be a barbwire match?
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Mokes - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 23:54:01 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5671822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The next match for their WM weekend Friday show, Turn Left, has been announced! Missile Assault Man teams with Silver Ant to take on Hallowicked and Frightmare!
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:46:00 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5672084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ROH added Adam Cole/Marty Scurll for the TV Title, Punishment Martinez/Kazarian, and Matt Taven & Vinny Marseglia/Silas Young & Beer City Bruiser to their Lakeland show in the last couple days so the card for their show at the moment looks like:

  • ROH WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP LADDER MATCH
ROH WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS THE HARDYS (JEFF & MATT HARDY) vs. THE YOUNG BUCKS (MATT & NICK JACKSON)

  • ROH WORLD TITLE MATCH
ROH WORLD CHAMPION CHRISTOPHER DANIELS vs. DALTON CASTLE

  • ROH WORLD TELEVISION CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
ROH WORLD TELEVISION CHAMPION "THE VILLAIN" MARTY SCURLL vs. ADAM COLE

  • TEXAS BULLROPE MATCH
CODY vs. JAY LETHAL

  • THE BRISCOES (JAY & MARK) & BULLY RAY vs. HANGMAN PAGE & GUERRILLAS OF DESTINY (TAMA TONGA & TONGA ROA)

  • WILL OSPREAY & VOLADOR JR. vs. DRAGON LEE & JAY WHITE

  • "HEAVY METAL REBEL" FRANKIE KAZARIAN vs. PUNISHMENT MARTINEZ

  • THE KINGDOM (MATT TAVEN & VINNY MARSEGLIA) vs. BEER CITY BRUISER & "PRO WRESTLING'S LAST REAL MAN" SILAS YOUNG

  • COLT CABANA ON COLOR COMMENTARY

  • ALSO SCHEDULED TO APPEAR:
MOTOR CITY MACHINE GUNS (ALEX SHELLEY & CHRIS SABIN)

  • WOMEN OF HONOR:
CMLL LUCHADORAS LA AMAPOLA & MARCELA
KELLY KLEIN
MANDY LEON
DEONNA PURRAZZO
SUMIE SAKAI
JENNY ROSE
FAYE JACKSON
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:46:50 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5672085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672084
NB, don't know why the post ended up looking off with the formatting
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Akira Tozawa - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:22:58 EST ID:2T9zvCqT No.5672211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672084
>cody vs jay lethal: texas bullrope match

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Stacy Keibler - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:29:44 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5672217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672211
I don't get this sentiment. Their first match together was very good, and that was with zero build and Cody playing generic face until the finish. Since then Cody's gotten legit heat as a heel in ROH and they've built up the feud pretty well. Not sure if the Texas Bullrope stip will help at all, but I wouldn't call the match boring on paper.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:50:28 EST ID:tarI869j No.5672233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here are the results from WCPW Bulletproof and the Pro Wrestling World Cup England Qualifying Tournament

https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/2017/03/20/results-wcpw-whatculturepw-bulletproof-live-results/
https://hashtagwrest.wordpress.com/2017/03/22/results-wcpw-whatculturepw-pro-wrestling-world-cup-2017-england-qualifiers-full-results/
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Stacy Keibler - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:56:21 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5672236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672233
WCPW must have some sort of low-key agreement with ROH. This makes three times the ROH Title has been defended on one of their shows, plus the Bucks don't do many non-PWG indies with their current contracts.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:01:16 EST ID:tarI869j No.5672240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672236
The Bucks are allowed to take international bookings.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:12:47 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5672247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fucking Christ.
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:37:11 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5672282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672217
Cody doesn't excite me at all, but he and Lethal worked well together. With the build and other factors, such as them supposedly using a cowbell that Dusty has had since the 70s, I imagine they will try hard in it.

I think the card could be better with a few adjustments. Feel like Volador's match could have just been a four corner match and it may have been more impressive overall, but that tag should still be good as an example. Pretty solid card with good variety at least.
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Mass Transit - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:39:21 EST ID:dVetD4yX No.5672286 Report Quick Reply
>>5672247
>Cyberpunk Goths vs the Assassins' Brotherhood
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Carlito - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:41:36 EST ID:wqrCHAUa No.5672287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672217
i was at the nyc match and i thought it sucked
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:56:05 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5672307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:59:21 EST ID:dVetD4yX No.5672312 Report Quick Reply
>>5672307
>O'Reilly has a tattoo version of "fortiter et fideliter" (bravely and faithfully)

Huh, that's my family's motto as it happens.
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Consequences Creed - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:00:08 EST ID:THN67928 No.5672314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672211
You can say that about this whole card outside of the wacky foreigners tag match really. I went to last year's ROH Mania weekend show and it was fantastic I can't believe how shitty the promotion has gotten just in a year.
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Brad Maddox - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:08:54 EST ID:UaBjGfgY No.5672324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672314
I don't feel like people understand how badly they fucked up within a year
>Cedric Alexander
>Moose
>Roddy
>ACH
>Kyle O'reilly
>Lion Rush
>Donovan Dijak
>Keith Lee
>Bobby Fish
>Adam Cole come May
All within the span of a year
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:22:27 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5672341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672324
While some of it can fall on management, others can fall on the landscape being different now. Many talents will now have the opportunity to get signed by them that they may have otherwise never had years ago.
  • Cedric: had creative differences, but also developed somewhat of a negative rep backstage. CWC was coming up and he bet on himself and it worked out with a WWE deal.
  • Moose: ended up getting a better money offer from TNA and WWE did not want him.
  • Roderick: what more could he do in ROH after having been there since 2004?
  • ACH: They really messed up with him unfortunately creatively as he should have been a much bigger deal. Also ruffled some feathers backstage.
  • Kyle O'Reilly: Seems to be WWE bound for NXT. His push to the title may have been able to come sooner, but they still ended up putting the title on him where he got his moment and he chose to leave.
  • Lio Rush: WWE bound potentially sooner rather than later.
  • Donovan Dijak: Seemed like he would be in WWE eventually as soon as he showed up in ROH. He would regularly win on television and on a number of house shows but lose in what few title matches he did get.
  • Keith Lee: ROH practically discovered him before any other promotions. He's one that really slipped through the cracks, but again, EVOLVE is the easier path to WWE rather than being locked into an ROH deal.
  • Bobby Fish: He's been there for just over four years, had a very long run in the tag division including as champions and held the TV title for the second half of the year. Ended up in New Japan pretty regularly until the last half of this past year. His deal in ROH just about revitalized his career from where he was in 2012 before signing. Could end up in WWE along with Kyle.
  • Adam Cole: Like Roderick, practically did all he can do and was under a two year deal the last two years.

And if you want to include some non-wrestling personalities
Steve Corino: WWE trainer
Nigel McGuinness: WWE announcer
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Curt Hawkins - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:26:24 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5672344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672341
>Lio Rush: WWE bound potentially sooner rather than later.
Lio pls, your future is so bright
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:33:28 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5672349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672344
He's 22 and has a child. He even moved to Florida when the performance center opened in hopes that they would take walk-ins, which he would find out was not the case.
http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/18313500/lio-rush-embarking-accelerated-path-stardom-just-22-pro-wrestling
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Kobald - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:34:17 EST ID:6Ft6Eqf+ No.5672350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672324
>>5672341
ROH's problem is that while they have found some good-great talent over the past few years, they're still in the same position they were in 10 years: Just a means to an end (WWE or TNA).

Their TV is okay, but really wonky with how the follow-up after a PPV is a few weeks afterwards or the lack of a stable timeslot. In my area, it airs 11PM Sunday nights with a repeat Saturday mornings at 6. If they had something like a more up-to-date show on a network like Spike or FX, it would give the promotion a much, much needed boost. Otherwise, they'll just be a feeder system.
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Jack Swagger - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:38:22 EST ID:Gwn0Zhld No.5672356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672350
and with evolve now being the go to fed for WWE talent, they are no longer a means to get to WWE. just ask keith lee.

I guess they could be a means to NJPW, but NJPW has a limit for how many gaijin they can have...
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:43:10 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5672362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672341
NB signed by WWE that they may have otherwise never had years ago*

>>5672350
Their entire model of content distribution needs some adjustment including the TV. Having VODs be anywhere ranging from $15-$20 a show in a land filled with all of these streaming services that supply current content in addition to archives (which ROH's membership does supply in some capacity, but their whole membership is limited to the website of course.) Granted it is not hard to use things such as an HDMI cable if you have the knowledge to do it, but I do feel that the majority would prefer more practical ways such as Roku/gaming device/etc to be able to use things such as VOD/streaming services.

They are also sitting on a goldmine of footage with many compilations that are OOP that would likely sell well today if they took the time to re-print a bunch of them including but not limited to one for Generico, one for Itami (which I believe they were sold out of around the time that Itami properly debuted with WWE and they never brought back.) There are a lot of things they could do differently to help with being a better player in the game that is the wrestling business.

One tidbit in terms of the "classic" 2002-early 2009 footage would be a lot of music would have to be completely dubbed over in a manner similar to how ECW footage is neutered on the network. Don't know how many people would be bothered by that necessarily, but I know for me personally, it would not be the same.
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Kobald - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:48:55 EST ID:6Ft6Eqf+ No.5672370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672356
WWE says that, but they're still looking at ROH for talent. Hell, WWE was gonna use ROH as the go to, but once that Destination America deal happened, they decided to go after them using Gabe.
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:49:29 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5672371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672356
And at the same time, there are wrestlers who got to New Japan through ROH who have dropped ROH altogether like Elgin and potentially War Machine.
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Kobald - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:57:54 EST ID:6Ft6Eqf+ No.5672378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672362
They definitely do need to rework their current model. A single show at that price would be fine if they were DVDs or Blu-Rays, but not digital content when other services are doing the same price but with a complete library. If they were smart, they would partner up with another VOD distributor like Floslam or NJPW to add their back catalog. It would be a win-win for ROH and the VOD service.

>They are also sitting on a goldmine of footage with many compilations that are OOP that would likely sell well today if they took the time to re-print a bunch of them including but not limited to one for Generico, one for Itami (which I believe they were sold out of around the time that Itami properly debuted with WWE and they never brought back.) There are a lot of things they could do differently to help with being a better player in the game that is the wrestling business.
That might work, but then again TNA was doing that and people bitched and moaned about them piggybacking off of WWE. Plus I'd imagine there is a licensing or trademark issue in doing so as well.
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Lance Hoyt - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:58:11 EST ID:ZxNBKfET No.5672379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672084
>scrull wasted on adam cole
>>5672247
cant wait to see what type of fucked up shit gets brought
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Stacy Keibler - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:59:05 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5672380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672371
War Machine would be smart to dump ROH as their home for NJPW, although still working there from time to time would be fine. It's preferable to sign with New Japan since they could take all the indie bookings the currently do, and as big rough & tough gaijin that aren't Bullet Club they can stand out.

Shit, imagine if War Machine and Elgin made a trio and won the NEVER belts. BIG BEARD BOIS.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:16:59 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5672397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672379

Currently I have a cheesegrater, cactus, frying pan and salt, also gonna pick up a pineapple on Sunday morning.
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Lance Hoyt - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:26:47 EST ID:ZxNBKfET No.5672408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672397
im pretty sure havoc would take all of those
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Richie Steamboat - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:31:38 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5672414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672397

You better be turning that into a deathpine.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:37:26 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5672423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672414

Legitimately had thoughts of spending Saturday covering it in drawing pins but I feel like a pineapple on its own is painful enough
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The Wrestler - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:50:27 EST ID:7mXrZGOQ No.5672436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5672247

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Lance Hoyt - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:06:41 EST ID:ZxNBKfET No.5672461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5672436
PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO BRING A WEAPON TO THE SHOW
Venue security will not allow weapons through the door (and rightly so). We'll come outside to the queue at approx 1.30pm and collect any potential items of hardware that you've brought along. Anything that we don't collect at that time, won't get into the building. REPEAT: Venue security will not allow weapons through the door.
If you bring something and we take it for the match -
a) we don't guarantee that it will get used, and
b) you're not getting it back!
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Paul Roma - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:38:18 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5672523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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[LOUD SWEATING]
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Jey Uso - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 20:46:35 EST ID:ID+Bx9NT No.5672592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672414
uh no SNACKPINE? very jooshy
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Andy Leavine - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 20:50:02 EST ID:cyRxe4JE No.5672600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Have two extra tickets for each WWN event next weekend in Orlando. Hit me up on Twitter @MichaelLangan2
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Naomi - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:18:00 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5673210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://www.rohwrestling.com/content/2017-tournament-honor
The fuck is this?
I didn't know y'all were discussing ROH's roster issues, incidentally.
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Tamina - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:40:33 EST ID:tgsrBhaw No.5673296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
chapter 45 is up already
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:46:05 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5673404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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STIGMA - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 15:24:13 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5673541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673296
Anybody else struggling to hear Jim? It's like his words are all blurring into one
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Aksana - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 15:29:47 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5673549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673541
That's what happens when they run Manchester. The acoustics fuck with Jim's promos.
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Amasis - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 15:36:20 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5673558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673210
15h anniversary fan thing I guess.
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STIGMA - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 15:51:27 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5673567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SPPT have really stepped their shit up the past couple chapters, Banks especially is looking like a star
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Stephanie McMahon-Levesque - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:12:51 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5673634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Apparently Supercard of Honor is going to be an iPPV now.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:14:41 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5673742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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STIGMA - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:37:21 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5673767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ospreay is 10x more interesting as a heel already, is he still a face outside PROGRESS?
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AJ Syles - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:48:39 EST ID:pQQacDxp No.5673778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673742
so what exactly is the contract tampering that happened between wwe and roh that made wwe suddenly cool off on signing guys who were leaving roh to join nxt?

i don't know if njpw is interested in grabbing kyle and making him full time like elgin
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Penny Banner - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 20:11:25 EST ID:bv3vR+yG No.5673804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dunne was the man in that PROGRESS main event. Great match.
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Husky Harris - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 20:12:23 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5673806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673767
He's still face in RevPro, but York Hall explodes for him so it makes sense for him there. He's face in NJPW because CHAOS, and in ROH as well. He's heel in the Clickbait company, though, and on the show that just aired in the tubes cut a legitimately great heel promo. He's quite the proper cunt when he gets to be, and the Swords of Essex as a stable really help drive that home.
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Cary Silkin - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 22:34:03 EST ID:gLLEZFqC No.5673925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182EPUQcdE8
nothing this cool is booked for wwns supershow this year tho
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Husky Harris - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 22:43:46 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5673933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673925
TK & Travis vs Dickinson & Jaka is gonna be lit as fuck my man. Especially when Dahlia takes a Pazuzu Bomb.
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Flyinrusso - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 22:48:10 EST ID:muzPYBVM No.5673940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673742
If Gabe can get Kyle O'Reilly to wrestle in Melrose on June 24th as well, that would be sick.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:38:14 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5673976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673767
>>5673806

Ospreay's bantering with the crowd needs work but yeah he's a great heel outside of that. Definitely deserves credit for being able to do much of his usual moveset and still get booed, and the match with the South Coast Connection was an incredibly fun car crash match that I'd recommend checking out regardless of thoughts on WCPW as a product.

He's also heel in IPW:UK, and I actually think they were the first to pull the trigger on a heel turn for him, though he was then written off their shows for much of 2016.
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Husky Harris - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:38:17 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5673977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
O'Reilly is also working Beyond on 4/29. It seems he's definitely coming out of his post-ROH sabbatical.
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Sugar Dunkerton - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:51:02 EST ID:THN67928 No.5673983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673742
O'Reilly vs Yehi pls
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:56:58 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5673998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673742
Don't know how he did not manage to get him for the WM weekend shows.
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Husky Harris - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:59:32 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5674002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673998
He may not want to take bookings for that week. He's wrestled approximately twice since he left ROH, and one of them was just last week, and in Chicago which isn't as far from Canada as Orlando by a long shot.
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Randy Orton - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 06:27:08 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5674262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5673742
RETURN OF THE KING
>yfw it's Fish
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DashingCN - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:45:32 EST ID:qJzeTsS1 No.5674306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5673742

here is the list

>EVOLVE 82 - April 22nd - Queens, NY
>Kyle O'Reilly vs. Keith Lee

>EVOLVE 83 - April 23rd - Brooklyn, NY
>Kyle O'Reilly vs. Fred Yehi

>EVOLVE 84 - May 20th - Chicago, IL
>Kyle O'Reilly vs. Matt Riddle

>EVOLVE 85 - May 21st - Livonia, MI
>Kyle O'Reilly vs. To Be Announced
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Repo Man - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:13:35 EST ID:k+exJCbO No.5674318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Chapter 45 was absolutely ananas. One whole step above bananas.

Every single match was top notch. Not a sigle non-european wrestler either.
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Tank - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:16:09 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5674320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5674318
I swear every PROGRESS chapter is just top, top tier nowadays. Consistently well booked, good matches and characters you care about.

I wish it got more of a following here and across the internet. Also wish they'd start moving to bigger arenas more often. The manchester shows at least sell out in minutes
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Diamond Dallas Page - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:45:36 EST ID:4uOFlJs9 No.5674325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5674320
it has a pretty strong following here
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Drew Carey - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:18:52 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5674461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5674306
>KOR / Yehi

Thank you gabe. I am ready for this.
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Husky Harris - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:20:39 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5674465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5674306
My god, just throw in Kyle vs Hot Sauce and it's perfect.
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Sugar Dunkerton - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:24:03 EST ID:THN67928 No.5674472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5674306
hot damn what a lineup. Fingers crossed for O'Reilly vs Galloway at some point.
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Repo Man - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:49:57 EST ID:k+exJCbO No.5674551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5674320
They like to keep a tight audience. That way they can depend on the audience not to do anything stupid. Which I understand.

On the other hand if more people could watch a show in person then they'd probably spread the word/be more invested.

Freedoms road is a step in the right direction. They could have multiple tapings in venues across the country if they want.
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Cheex - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:48:59 EST ID:M/PNu1pF No.5674865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Who would be intrested in a midnight show after mania...if it was PWRevolver Vs. WrestleCircus
this might be a thing
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El Oriental - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:36:13 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5675024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>oh wow KBB is in town
>The old jai alai fronton
>at midnight
Well shit.
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Mokes - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:41:53 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5675029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The next match for Chikara's WM weekend Friday show, Turn Left, has been announced! A huge 10-Person tag team match! Five of The Furies fight together against a fearsome fivesome led by Juan Francisco de Coronado!
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Gerald Brisco - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 01:06:33 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5675083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5672233

>ZSJ already being pushed this hard

Fuck off WCPW.
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Jimmy Rave - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 02:20:43 EST ID:HG9D5Yg8 No.5675159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5654173
Season 17 made things a bit confusing, what happened to Amasis?
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Greg Iron - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 07:34:43 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5675296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5674551
That's fair enough I guess, guess i'm just salty I still haven't been able to go to one

I wonder if PROGRESS ends up on the WWE network how they'll edit matches like Havoc/Dunne. I just can't imagine Vince wanting stuff like that un-edited on his network
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Balls Mahoney - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 08:26:39 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5675321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5675083
He's the best wrestler in the world, of course they would.
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Gerald Brisco - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:35:16 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5675371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675321

I love how Beyond Wrestling is the only place on the planet who have held off from throwing titles at him.

Jonathan Gresham beat him twice (including in a 2 of 3 falls). Then he beat Keith Lee which is pretty bad but round 1 of a tournament and he lost in the next round to Donovan Dijak so that's okay. Then John Silver beat him next time Zack went to Beyond.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:13:38 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5675388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675083

>Already

He's been a big deal there for most of the year now and rightfully so, I'm not sure why this is surprising.

>>5675371

He's never held a belt in Progress either. Given that Beyond doesn't actually have titles, that's probably a better statement.
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Private Eye - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:00:54 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5675590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The top matches at wXw True Colors on 4/9 are Ilja Dragunov vs Robert Dreisker in a grudge match and Jurn Summons vs Speedball Mike Bailey for the Unified World Wrestling Title.
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Balls Mahoney - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:21:32 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5675694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5668778
Xavier being a waste of a ticket.
tbh I'm just biased because he's a big fat literally who to me and I feel he pole-vaulted the line. It's like if 2013 PWG flew in TaDarius Thomas. Even limited to CZW, there are so many better options it's not even funny.
Plus they already ha a superior black flippy CZW debutee for that show in Strickland. That grinds my gears.

>>5668908
That was what I meant by Cole playing spoiler. He ruined Elgin's momentum, ruined Lethal's payoff, and ruined Kyle's everything. And all 3 reigns he got out of it were pretty shitty themselves.
But hey, that's his character. He's THAT guy, wrestling edition. So it works (heh). As a metanarrative, it's actually pretty neat. Better than if he'd only had one or two reigns IMO.
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 16:00:40 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5675726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675694
In fairness, a number of reigns delayed reigns that they missed the boat on. Roderick's reign to me was a "thank you for your years of service" award (and a pretty uneventful reign other than adding Roderick to the title lineage in addition to giving Truth Martini a notch on his "manager of champions" belt) when that would have been the real time to put the belt on Daniels (who was having a rivalry with Tyler at that point) since they were all about making a program between Daniels/Davey in that timeframe. Have Davey win it from Daniels, then drop the belt to Eddie to get Eddie over just as an example or Steen like they eventually did. AA's second reign is kind of underrated but obviously Tyler's coronation got delayed heavily due to that from his reign and Jerry's reign when Gabe has gone on record as to say that Tyler would have won the belt at Final Battle 2008 (14 months before he eventually won it.)

In reference to Cole, they could have had him win it from Lethal still when they did the triple threat at the 14th anniversary show and gotten to the Kyle payoff sooner than they had but at that point Lethal had also just signed a new deal so it would not surprise me if they continued his reign due to that, even though Cole still had over a year left on his own as did Kyle who had just signed a new deal. Elgin was also handled quite poorly even before Cole got into the picture seeing as ROH failed to capitalize on him at all in the Cornette era following him and Davey. They never even did the rematch on a proper show, only on a one off TV taping. His reign reminded me of Homicide's only with a much more dragged out road in that people were happy when he won the belt but by the time his reign began, people lost interest then he had his legal issues leading to Briscoe getting his belt back that he never lost and eventually the Lethal program which was built very well in my opinion at least, even if that was not the original plan.
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Allison Wonderland - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 16:12:23 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5675740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675726
Briscoe vs Lethal was honestly the last time the belt really meant something. Lethal's reign rode a really good wave after that, and until the moment he lost it he cut these fantastic promos about how much it meant to him, but that program was the last truly big angle the title had. Daniels cutting the promo of his life prior to winning it from Cole notwithstanding.
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El Oriental - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 16:24:02 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5675749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm bringing some friends to the Saturday Wrestlecon Supershow.
Would y'all please spoonfeed me some youtube or dailymotion links to recent work by these guys so I can get everybody up to speed?
The card copypastas as follows
Matt & Jeff Hardy vs. Penta El Zero Miedo & Rey Fenix
Bobby Lashley vs. Jeff Cobb
John Hennigan v. Brian Cage in a TLC match!
Twenty (20) Person WrestleCon Rumble!
2 Cold Scorpio
Mascarita Dorada - formerly known as Torito in WWE
Trevor Lee
Shannon Moore
Shane Strickland - portrays "Killshot" on Lucha Underground
William Ospreay
Marty Scurll
Ricochet
Michael Elgin
ACH
Jack Evans
Angelico
Sami Callihan
Caleb Konley
Billy Gunn
Vampiro
Drew Galloway
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:12:16 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5675793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675749
The Supershow is on Friday for the record. I imagine that was a typo on your side, but just clarifying to avoid confusion there.

For Lashley, I'd recommend his Ironman match with Eddie Edwards from January but I couldn't find a decent link of it. Here is him and Galloway from Slammiversary last year which was good stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b7ih7qc1NY&t=25s

ACH had a good one with Chris Hero at Wrestle Circus last December supposedly that I still need to check out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJILBxVTRs4

Brian Cage and Kieth Lee from Beyond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo4ZmT16dmc

DJ Z and Trevor Lee from Bound For Glory last October https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3jowsuFGm4

Would recommend any of Marty's recent TV title matches in ROH.

That's a start at least.
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Brad Maddox - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:26:22 EST ID:E8Q0U9+v No.5675798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675749
Here's Puma vs Ostritch
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4dxp1b
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Buff Bagwell - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:24:27 EST ID:nJx3cMLi No.5675818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675749
have your friends not seen any of lu ?
if not tell them to start asp
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Shark Girl - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:44:06 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5675870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675749
For Penta and Vampiro, show them the Cero Miedo match from LU unless they'd b disgusted by a really bloody brawl.
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Cyrus - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 20:00:16 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5675882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675793
Oh yeah derp
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Nova - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:12:19 EST ID:M0MxUq3K No.5675990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wrestle Circus and Wrestling Revovler are running a joint show at Midnight the night of Mania, presumably for crazy people. The first two matches announced are:
>World's Cutest Tag Team vs Sami Callihan & Jessicka Havok
>Shane Strickland vs Michael Elgin
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Jonny Fairplay - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:19:01 EST ID:nJx3cMLi No.5676009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675990
kinda wanna go
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Chessman - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 05:25:22 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5676306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675388

I wouldn't have put it past a promotion with "no titles" to have created a title just for zack to win though.
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Chessman - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 05:28:32 EST ID:6eO/bU2K No.5676309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675749

>Shannon Moore
Probably best not to post any links to his work.
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Savannah - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 06:12:21 EST ID:+iAu1SWu No.5676321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5675694
I get you point with pole vaulting, but I think in this case it's less that they booked Strickland and Xavier, but more that they booked that specific match.
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Alere Little Feather - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 09:14:07 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5676392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My sides. The weapons being brought to PROGRESS for the match today are incredible.

Also someone has brought cakes with fuck you Ospreay written on them
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Kanyon - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 12:45:20 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5676498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://twitter.com/ThisIs_Progress/status/846037751707389952

Mark Haskins' son appears on the show named for him.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 19:46:22 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5677003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Results and stuff from Progress:

>The Evil Origin def. the Banter Origin following a double lungblower to Ligero from both Cruz & Gibson. Fun enough, imagine this is building to SSS16 weekend now as Cruz still has Ligero's mask so there's still some story left there.

>Toni Storm defeated Dahlia Black. Decent match, finish kinda came out of nowhere though. NPS4 final right now is Jinny vs. Toni vs. Laura Di Matteo or Alex Windsor

>Travis Banks defeats Jack Sexsmith in a fucking great match. It's on Progress's Facebook and I recommend watching it. They're doing such a great job with Sexsmith right now and I can't wait to see who else they give him before (and at) SSS16

>Mark Haskins tapped out Axel Dieter Jr in another very good match. Haskins' son came out and shot a dinosaur. Was quite a cool moment even if Progress fans' total mental incapacitation when it comes to throwing streamers did its best to prevent that.

>Jimmy Havoc beat Will Ospreay in an an insane Fans Bring the Weapons match that became a Loser Leaves Progress match midway through. Lots of blood. A (seemingly ungimmicked) guitar, pinata full of thumbtacks, potted plant, grandfather clock that they clearly didn't want to destroy and other assorted things were used. Some non-fan weapons like a table, chair, barbed wire board and the original Progress Title Staff were involved. Havoc gave Ospreay an Essex Destroyer off the top rope through a table before winning with three consecutive barbed wire rainmakers. It would appear Ospreay is gone.

>Moustache Mountain beat Hunter Brothers. It was alright.

>Matt Riddle beat WALTER. It was INCREDIBLE.

>Pete Dunne beat Mark Andrews. Lots of Progress Main Event Bullshit™. Roberts got taken out off two ref bumps, Paz counted a fall for Mark to win, which Roberts overturned. Pete eventually won after intereferences from Trent and Tyler were both fought off. All the bullshit worked just fine for me and I didn't mind it (aside from the overturned finish, as well executed as it was), but I've seen others say it was too much.

Very good show, possibly the best non-SSS16 indie show I've seen in person. Banks-Sexsmith, Haskins-ADJ, Havoc-Ospreay and WALTER-Riddle are all must-watch and all for very different reasons. Still no idea what Progress's direction is going to be from here and with the talent they have right now I love that a lot.
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Albert - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:06:20 EST ID:hIx1VOSl No.5677025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677003
those titles are fuckin awful man
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Daniel Puder - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:10:05 EST ID:DsOSwZ8L No.5677030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677003
>tag team wrote in japanese on sideplates
why
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Steve Corino - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:13:14 EST ID:/IjrAWI4 No.5677037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677025
I think there awesome
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Super Crazy - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:17:18 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5677040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677025
Designs are good in terms of layout. The chain link texture and the Japanese side plates, I don't know.
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LuFisto - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:39:18 EST ID:qvj0jc7k No.5677066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677003
I kinda regret reading these spoilers because all of this sounds awesome, if anyone is considering I suggest you don't.

Also why the fuck did they stop booking paul robinson again i hate progress
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:47:24 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5677077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677066

He got injured.
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Mokes - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:49:59 EST ID:Emr0Qmz7 No.5677081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677030
muh strong style
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Bob Sapp - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:16:20 EST ID:Cj3CSJa4 No.5677103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677025
A Yin-Yang type shit is actually a good idea, they just did it badly
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Nova - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:13:11 EST ID:lkKch71x No.5677342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677003
Shouldn't it be タッグ, rather than タグ?
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Daniel Puder - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:28:26 EST ID:DsOSwZ8L No.5677353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677342
Yep, you're right.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/GHC%E3%82%BF%E3%83%83%E3%82%B0%E7%8E%8B%E5%BA%A7
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Christina Von Eerie - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 04:31:22 EST ID:GUJKWmsK No.5677376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677103

I get that it's a play on the old Progress Yin-Yang Tag team champs shield, but damn is that not executed well. Also needs more Progress Bird in the middle.

Also yeah, not quite digging the TAGGU TEAMU on the sideplates.
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GENTARO - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 11:06:44 EST ID:0FueatmF No.5677525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>tfw you missed out on wrestlecon supershow tickets
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Finlay - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 11:08:27 EST ID:esfQdvdN No.5677529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5677525
I missed out on Epic Encounter tickets and every new announcement makes me want to delet myself
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GENTARO - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:33:31 EST ID:0FueatmF No.5677669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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progress us main event
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A.J. Styles - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:05:13 EST ID:06sAFPId No.5677708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677669
That is a nice fucking main event..
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GENTARO - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:14:18 EST ID:0FueatmF No.5677715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5677708
2nd match
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GENTARO - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:57:34 EST ID:0FueatmF No.5677781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tfw no havoc deathmatch
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Super Crazy - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:01:36 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5677786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Okay sure I guess.
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Super Crazy - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:31:53 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5677809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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OH BABY
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:39:11 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5677819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677809

Between this match and the one at the WWN Supershow, this should be a real fantastic weekend for Cooper and Banks.
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:17:04 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5677962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Full card in one post for Progress Orlando, spoilered just in case due to Ch46 not being on Demand yet (why are you looking at this thread if you're trying to avoid spoilers, come on bro):

>PROGRESS World Championship match: Pete Dunne vs. Mark Haskins
>Atlas Championship match: Matt Riddle (c) vs. Trent Seven
>Jimmy Havoc vs. Zack Sabre Jr.
>Mark Andrews vs. Tyler Bate
>South Pacific Power Trip vs. Shane Strickland & Sami Callihan
>Jinny vs. Toni Storm
>James Drake vs. Spud

Progress Ch47: Complicated Simplicity (last Camden show before SSS16) is on sale now and seems to be selling out just as fast as usual.
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Super Crazy - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:18:25 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5677963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Big Dust made it to FloSlam baby
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BurningHammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:29:13 EST ID:S7Rvn5JI No.5677971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5677963
>CAFFEINE
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Bam Bam Bigelow - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:38:41 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5677983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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midnight after mania added cage v xavier to the card for their title
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:04:10 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5678106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Card for WCPW Orlando (yes yes, buy a banner etc) so far:

>WCPW Title match: Drew Galloway vs. Rampage Brown
>BT Gunn vs. Martin Kirby
>Bobby Fish vs. David Starr
>El Ligero vs. Ricochet
>Michael Elgin vs. Jason Prime

p good card so far in all honesty, definitely holding its own in the grand scheme of Mania weekend indie shows.
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Zack Ryder - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:20:17 EST ID:EWufTK01 No.5678145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5678106
It's pretty nuts that this is a "weaker" card this weekend
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Suwama - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:31:47 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5678163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5678106
Ligero/Ricochet should be really good, is this being streamed?
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VilinskiKonjic !UmgZY96SJE - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:54:27 EST ID:qButPQKm No.5678202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5678163

Most likely it'll be streamed on their own streaming service. Wouldn't be surprised if they put it up on Youtube after the fact though. Not sure if anything concrete has been announced.
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Drew Carey - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:37:03 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5678370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well good golly this looks like a hoot.
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Drew Carey - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:37:55 EST ID:UqEgutuJ No.5678374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also this
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Rick Steiner - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:53:45 EST ID:wvYV/JVo No.5678391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5677809
wish sppt got to face a real team
>>5678106
rampage and ligero should be a part of the progress show instead of freaking sami and james drake
>>5678374
ty based 7
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Sonjay Dutt - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 02:16:38 EST ID:MbMFdgxt No.5678605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Am I alone in thinking that the CZW show has a stacked card and could lowkey be one of the better shows of the weekend? There's gonna be so much a1 wrestling content to take in this month.
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 02:37:13 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5678614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5678370
They also announced ACH/Martin Stone and Leva Bates/Manscout. The latter sounds pretty awful, but overall I'm liking this show on paper more than the Revolver card on the Saturday.
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Beth Phoenix - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 02:45:59 EST ID:hIx1VOSl No.5678620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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britwres doesnt even merit a little thing on wikipedia its not even real shits faker than judo
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JK Trolling !HnaoKxsqDA - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 02:47:30 EST ID:8KkpS44J No.5678622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For the Ospreay/Ricochet 10-man tag at Wrestlecon Supershow, some of the teammates have been selected.

Ospreay's has himself, Marty Scurll, and Ryan Smile.

Ricochet's has himself, Callihan, AR Fox, and Jason Cade.

One left for Ricochet's team, two more for Will's.


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