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THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE (8TH SEPTEMBER '17) by Crowbar - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 01:58:38 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5840706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
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> Niebla Roja is injured and has been out of action. The belief is that he’ll do an angle at the 9/8 Arena Mexico show and will wrestle Gran Guerrero in the mask vs. mask main event at the Anniversary show. We’re told he’s expected to be good enough to work, but he won’t be 100 percent

> AAA has just gotten a U.S. television outlet on Univision Deportes. They’ve been airing a lot of older footage. The show airing on 9/10 is scheduled to be TripleMania, or at least some matches from the show, airing at 9 p.m. Eastern

> Sexy Star has been stripped of her Reina de Reinas title as punishment for the incident at TripleMania. We’ve got more on the reaction to that in the GFW section. There was no public explanation given, only that they were stripping her of the title. Among the fans in Mexico who still care about titles, they couldn’t understand why and many were sympathetic to her since she’s gone on television and made herself the victim in the situation.

> After the Irapuato show, the entire AAA roster, along with GFW wrestlers James Storm, Ethan Carter III and Eli Drake, as well as Jeremy Borash, were stranded in the middle of nowhere during a 28 mile traffic standstill, and the bus didn’t move for eight hours.

> The Crash has attempted to book The Young Bucks, Cody Rhodes, Kenny Omega, Kazuchika Okada and Will Ospreay over the last several months, but in every case, New Japan wouldn’t allow it. The Young Bucks had worked here previously but couldn’t take future dates because New Japan doesn’t want its talent working in Mexico unless it’s for CMLL. The frustration is that every one of these names don’t work CMLL. There was an attempt to book Okada vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. for a major Tijuana show. The hope is with the dual working agreement with Rush and Pierroth working both companies, that it would open the door to CMLL not blocking New Japan guys from working here, especially since CMLL guys were just working for All Japan

> All Japan is pushing the debut of an Australian who will use the Japanese name Kyoboku Futoshi, which is Japanese for thick tree. He debuts on 9/30 in Maebashi. He’s the Australian heavyweight champion and is billed at 6-foot-4 3/4 and 265 pounds.

> Ultimo Ninja, who is the cousin of Garza Jr., will be replacing Rey Fenix on the next Pro Wrestling NOAH tour. There is still a lot of heat on this because Fenix was caught in the crossfire of the problems with Konnan and Dorian Roldan. Roldan tried to get NOAH to block the booking by saying that MGM, the parent company of Lucha Underground, had him under contract and would not allow him to wrestle on the tour. Fenix contacted the lawyer for MGM who then said that they never said that, but NOAH by this point had already canceled the booking.

> Kenny Omega had arthroscopic surgery on a torn meniscus in his left knee on 9/6. The surgery was necessary for all the accumulated wear and tear on it dating back several years. It was something he’s been needing to take care of for a long time, and apparently before those last two matches with Kazuchika Okada and Tetsuya Naito in the tail end of G-1, he already knew it was going to have to be soon. But after he got home, his knee locked for a 48 hour period when he wasn’t doing much more than sitting on the sofa and walking, so he had to get it done this week.

> An interesting trivia note is that Kazuchika Okada’s current reign as IWGP champion is looking to be a record breaker. As of 9/6, he was at 443 days, meaning that on 10/23 he will pass Shinya Hashimoto’s 1996-97 record of 489. Basically the only way he doesn’t get that record is if Evil beats him at King of Pro Wrestling on 10/9. For most days of total reign, he’s at 1,239 on four total reigns, having just surpassed Keiji Muto at 1,238 for second place. The record is 1,358 by Hiroshi Tanahashi in seven reigns, a number he would he was break on 1/4, the day of his probable Tokyo dome defense against Tetsuya Naito. So he could end up breaking the record by one if he goes into the Dome as champion. Keep in mind he’s only 29, so he’s going to blast past these records by the time his career is over unless he gets a career ending injury

> New Japan announced the pricing structure for this year’s Tokyo Dome show. It’s the opposite of WWE which increases the price of the top seats every year since the secondary market indicates they were underpricing, but keeps the lower priced seats similar. For the Dome, the floor seats are only up five percent while the first deck at the Dome is up 27 percent and the top deck is up 38 percent. The worst seats are $41, up from $31, while the ringside seats are $461 the same price as last year

> Sami Callihan is scheduled to debut in NJPW before the end of the year
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Crowbar - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:05:20 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5840708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840706
> Five Star Wrestling, the promotion that many thought was finished after they canceled a series of what were to be weekly televised shows for a 128 match tournament this year, appears to be back with a new television deal in the U.K. for 2018. A new free-to-air television station launched on 9/1 called FreeSports on all the major platforms, Freeview, TalkTalk, BT, Sky and FreeSat, basically everywhere but Virgin Media. It is a 24-hour sports channel, the first free-to-air sports channel in the U.K. television market. FreeSports will be the sister channel of Premier Sports and will have ten international soccer games weekly plus be the U.K. home of the NHL (which will be on free TV in the U.K. for the first time since 2005) and NASCAR.

> Steve Fludder’s Preston City Wrestling made an announcement on 9/5 that they had made an agreement with FreeSports which led people to believe they were the company that had signed with the new station. FreeSports on 9/7 then announced that while initial discussions with Preston City Wrestling did take place regarding airing a live event in October, that there was a “misunderstanding” and they have no agreement to air such a show and that they would not be airing it. They said they would be airing live weekly shows from major arenas starting in 2018 and Five Star Wrestling would be the station’s exclusive wrestling promotion.

> Preston City Wrestling was under the impression they had a deal with the station to do monthly three-hour specials with the first show on 10/27. Steve Fludder, the Preston City promoter said they had been in talks for months, thought they had a deal, only to find FreeSports changed their minds after the verbal agreement. He said Freesports had assured them on 9/4 that the deal was done and that’s when they made the announcement they had the deal starting with a live show on 10/27. He intimated that they lost the deal because Five Star had promised the promotion weekly major arena shows, something Preston City said they couldn’t deliver.

> Lucha Underground is heavily talking about Ultima Lucha on television so the season is winding to a close. None of the talent knows anything. The basic word we’ve heard is that El Rey would like a new season, but nobody has yet come through to fund the season. After season one lost so much money, they were able to get one of the owners to put up money for two more seasons so they could reach 100 episodes, a milestone they reached. They never tried touring and at WrestleMania in Dallas it was clear there was a huge buzz on Lucha Underground that isn’t there anymore and missed it. This stuff was taped 15 months ago and nobody has gotten paid since then but are under contract, so this has really screwed with the guys because ROH and WWE won’t touch anyone here. GFW has a relationship so have been able to get a few people. But there are a lot of talented guys who will be on the free agent market soon unless a new season is announced

> Due to their success is moving merchandise at Hot Topic, there will be a full line of Young Bucks, Bullet Club (with the different characters) and Elite merchandise not only in Hot Topic but several other chains are expected to pick it up around the second quarter of 2018

> The Mae Young Classic is clearly a huge hit on the WWE Network. For this past week, the top eight most-watched shows on the network were all eight episodes, which means that the four episodes released a week ago were all still head of both NXT and 205 Live both last week and this week. In fact, episodes one through four, even a week later, were ahead of the new 205 Live released on 9/5, even though they were released on 8/27. The top ten rankings for the week were: 1. Mae Young Classic episode five; 2. MYC episode six; 3. MYC episode seven; 4. MYC episode eight; 5. MYC episode four; 6. MYC episode three; 7. MYC episode one; 8. MYC episode two; 9. 205 Live from 9/5; 10. SummerSlam 2017. The NXT episode on 8/30 was in 11th place

> WWE has signed a multi-year French language television deal in Quebec with TVA Sports. They will air a one-hour edited version of Raw every Wednesday night starting on 10/18 with stand up comedian Kevin Raphael and wrestling author Pat Laprade. Laprade has written some great wrestling books including the history of wrestling in Montreal “Mad Dogs, Midgets & Screwjobs,” a history of women’s wrestling around the world, and his English language translation of the original French language bio of Mad Dog Vachon has just came out. It has been 19 years since WWE was on a French language station in Quebec

> Due to Hurricane Irma, the company has canceled the next two weekends of Florida house shows. Shows on 9/8 in Daytona Beach, 9/9 in Crystal River, 9/14 in Lakeland and 9/15 in Dade City are canceled, with a new Dade City date being announced for 10/5. At press time, they are still planning on taping television on 9/13 at Full Sail University, but there is a back-up plan in place if for some reason they aren’t able to do so

> Stephanie McMahon Levesque will be one of the leading speakers at the eighth annual ESPN W Women and Sports Summit presented by Toyota. The headline speakers are Jeanie Buss, the President of the Los Angeles Lakers, Stephanie, and Sheryl Crow, the famous rock star. The event takes place 10/2 to 10/4 in Newport Beach. ESPN’s Hannah Storm will interview McMahon. It’s really notable that WWE’s public changing of its portrayal of women, even though way behind the curve, has made Stephanie more legitimate as far as how she’s viewed as well as the company in women’s sports

> Samoa Joe is now slated to return at the end of October after his knee injury suffered last week

> The mobile care unit that Sami Zayn started a Go Fund me for in Syria to be able to get to people in combat situations who can’t make it to hospitals and also provide mental health care started in operation this past week. Zayn wrote that it was the proudest day of his life

> WWE announced a new television deal with Fox Sports Mexico. They will air a new weekly Spanish language show, WWE Saturday Night which started this past weekend at 9 p.m., obviously, on Saturday night, It’s part of the new strategy to do highlight shows, adding in local cultural flavor and focusing on talent from that region, similar to what they’ve just done in India, to try and make their international brand have more of a local connection

> Nikki Bella starts on Dancing With the Stars on 9/18, so WWE will have competition from both that show and football on Mondays this fall. Her competition on the show will be Barbara Corcoran (Shark Tank TV show), Debbie Gibson (actress and singer), Derek Fisher (former NBA star), Drew Scott (TV show host), Frankie Muniz (former star of Malcolm in the Middle), Jordan Fisher (singer and actor best known for the live Grease show), Lindsey Stirling (violinist), Nick Lachey (star of band 98 Degrees), Sasha Pietersie (from Pretty Little Liars), Terrell Owens (NFL star), Vanessa Lachey (MTV host) and Victoria Arlen (a participant in the Paralympic games)
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Crowbar - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:09:19 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5840711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840706
> Darren Young returned this weekend on the Raw crew working in Battle Royals. He came back to little fanfare and no television push for his return, nor with Bob Backlund. He was not used on television, even for Main Event

> Heyman is always controversial as there are people in management and creative who don’t like that he comes in and gets Lesnar segments changed so often. Heyman does have a lot of pull with Vince and the reality is most of the unique Lesnar creative, whether it’s the angles or match strictures and finishes, are out of the box and for the better such and my belief is the Joe program helped spark a business turnaround that led to the even stronger momentum the great four-way and the Strowman program. The belief is that if Heyman wasn’t around, than Lesnar would be more apt to do things the way they are originally written instead of the changes

> Gallagher needed four stitches from his 8/29 match with Kendrick on 205 Live where his head with split open after being slammed into the ring steps, which caused them to work right to the finish

> Regarding the weekly U.K. show, there are two stories going around. One said that it was still in the plans but the hold-up is the expense of doing the tapings because the original U.K. tournament that was supposed to be the kickoff show lost so much money. But the company was also looking to get the show on television in the U.K. and thus far hasn’t been able to make a deal

> Right now the plan is the Mae Young Classic final at 10 p.m., tentatively scheduled for a one-match show plus angles and such to go until about 10:30 p.m., and then 205 Live immediately after. We’re not sure if the MYC final will be just the Baszler vs. Sane match or a complete show, given they are flying women in from all over the world to be there. Vince McMahon also returns on that show as part of the angle where Owens in threatening to sue the company

> Regal did an interview talking about Asuka vacating the title and said in the next few weeks he’d come to a decision on how to fill the vacancy. If that announcement is more than six days off, it inherently would mean it won’t be the Mae Young Classic winner to determine the champion, but another match or series of matches

> Otis Dozovic at the WWE athletic competition at the Performance Center proved to be the best when it came to muscle stamina in the bench press doing 225 for 46 reps. I think that puts into perspective just how strong Bruno Sammartino was, as he once did 335 for 38 reps

> Jericho did an interview on 107.7 The Bone and talked about how he got the Styles clash unbanned. At first, when Styles came to WWE, because Yoshitatsu and others were injured from the move, Styles was told he couldn’t use the move. Jericho said he knew it was a safe move and that if Vince McMahon actually saw what the move was, he would let Styles use it. So Styles used the move in a match with Jericho, which was not the finish. Jericho noted that people were on his case for kicking out of the move, not realizing there was a method to all this. He said that he eventually went to Vince and asked him what he thought of the move and the big reaction to the kick out, but was careful never to say Styles clash, with the idea the move was banned, but Vince actually didn’t know what the move was. Jericho, after the match, went to Vince, and put over the move saying he thought Styles should use it as a finisher. And Vince agreed that it looked good enough to be a finisher, not realizing that move was the Styles clash. He noted that story is in more detail in his new book

> Jericho, in an interview with us, clarified the story of his one-show return. It wasn’t as if he showed up to do Southpaw Regional Wrestling and they saw him and decided to put him on the show. He was coming to film that show for some time, and at one point, ahead of time, because he was going to be there, he was asked to do a two-segment match where he’d put over Styles as a surprise. When the finish at Battleground was botched, and that’s what it was, that match became a three-way and because Styles was no longer champion and Styles was never supposed to lose it

> There is some unhappiness as word got out this week that with 12/25 and 1/1 both falling on Mondays, that Raw will be live both days. While both dates were major wrestling dates in another era, WWE has always given talent those days off and started back on 12/26 and also given talent off 1/1 except in 2007 when they did do a live Raw that night. In other years past when both fell on Mondays, rather than run those days, they’d tape Raw ahead of time. Right now it looks like Raw and Smackdown will air on 12/25 and 12/26 in Chicago, and that Raw will air on 1/1 from Miami. A lot of families just got the news of the shows being taped live. The claim is that it was a USA Network call and not a WWE call. Chicago is at least located in a place where a lot of the talent could leave first thing in the morning because they want you there by early afternoon, but some will have to leave on Christmas Eve. For Miami, with so much of the crew in South Florida, for most, it’s not a bad trip for those on the West Coast, they’d probably have to leave on New Year’s Eve to make it. That would also put Raw against Bowl games and the NFL
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Tank - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:13:56 EST ID:N+hju4EY No.5840713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840708
>WWE actually plans to tape NXT in the scattered remains of Florida
ok then
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:24:24 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5840715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840711
>That Heyman stuff
Good, let em be pissed off then. Don't get their grubby hands on any of it
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Mae Young - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:35:01 EST ID:pO2v0kua No.5840717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Jericho did an interview on 107.7 The Bone and talked about how he got the Styles clash unbanned.
Thanks Jericho, for re-introducing the worst move in AJ's entire arsenal.
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Chi Chi - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:44:21 EST ID:XgcBkFSC No.5840718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lee/Dijak got 5 stars
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RJ Brewer - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:51:33 EST ID:YO/1biyW No.5840720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840718
Questionable, but is a opinion, so who gives a fuck?
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Chi Chi - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 02:54:23 EST ID:XgcBkFSC No.5840721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840720
Its in the Observer
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Bam Bam Bigelow - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:00:10 EST ID:CIIunE+5 No.5840723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840721
Where the other reviews then?
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Burning Andrès Giant Hammer !9cgUyjcy4s - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:01:13 EST ID:PWB3DerC No.5840724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840718
>5/6.25
lol
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Colt Cabana - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:06:40 EST ID:YcQWKunR No.5840725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840708
>one-hour edited version of RAW
Lucky Quebec.
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Eddie Guerrero - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:11:09 EST ID:vm7oKiJU No.5840726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Jericho did an interview on 107.7 The Bone and talked about how he got the Styles clash unbanned. At first, when Styles came to WWE, because Yoshitatsu and others were injured from the move, Styles was told he couldn’t use the move. Jericho said he knew it was a safe move and that if Vince McMahon actually saw what the move was, he would let Styles use it. So Styles used the move in a match with Jericho, which was not the finish. Jericho noted that people were on his case for kicking out of the move, not realizing there was a method to all this. He said that he eventually went to Vince and asked him what he thought of the move and the big reaction to the kick out, but was careful never to say Styles clash, with the idea the move was banned, but Vince actually didn’t know what the move was. Jericho, after the match, went to Vince, and put over the move saying he thought Styles should use it as a finisher. And Vince agreed that it looked good enough to be a finisher, not realizing that move was the Styles clash. He noted that story is in more detail in his new book

Thank You Cool Dad List Man
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Shawn Michaels - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:13:19 EST ID:ZwqwXMMh No.5840727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Sami Callihan is scheduled to debut in NJPW before the end of the year

Which stable is he joining then? I'd guess LIJ as he'd fit in and they don't have a gaijin.
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Eddie Guerrero - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:14:51 EST ID:vm7oKiJU No.5840729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840727
I mean they technically have RUSH. But fuck I feel LIJ as it is right now is more than perfect. Hope this doesn't happen.
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Shane McMahon - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 03:53:06 EST ID:1Xr0dCqF No.5840736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840727
What do you mean dude? Naito is 100% mexican now
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Olimpico - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 04:17:39 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5840737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840718
I can imagine it, Lee and Dijak have had a string of really good matches this year.
Guess the months of waiting for BOLA dvds begins.


>>5840706
>Roldan tried to get NOAH to block the booking by saying that MGM, the parent company of Lucha Underground, had him under contract and would not allow him to wrestle on the tour. Fenix contacted the lawyer for MGM who then said that they never said that, but NOAH by this point had already canceled the booking.

Not that it's a surprise when AAA pulls this shit anymore, but how fucking carny is this.
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Olimpico - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 04:22:22 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5840738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840737
Also I just realised, since Dave described Lee/Dijak as like HBK/Taker but with better moves, perhaps people on twitter can stop wondering what HBK/Taker could have done to get five stars, since the answer is now clearly "have better moves".

nb for double
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Shaggy 2 Dope - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 06:31:24 EST ID:HG9D5Yg8 No.5840749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840727
Can you really imagine a Naito promo where he goes "EVIL, BUSHI, SANADA, HIROMU, CARUHAMU Y NAITO!"
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Rhett Titus - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 06:54:34 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5840750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The Crash isn't allowed to book New Japan guys because New Japan only wants them to work CMLL
>Each of the New Japan guys The Crash wanted doesn't work CMLL
>CMLL guys were just working for All Japan

What a clusterfuck.
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Shaggy 2 Dope - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:01:08 EST ID:HG9D5Yg8 No.5840752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840750
CMLL also got pissy at ROH for letting their guys work for Crash despite never booking ROH guys.
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Tsukushi - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:01:29 EST ID:Nd3WFycx No.5840753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840727
>Sami Callihan is scheduled to debut in NJPW before the end of the year
Oh fuck off Gedo.
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Adam Bomb - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:48:26 EST ID:jfGP5eFI No.5840757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840750
The CMLL guys that worked All Japan, like Caristico, are actually freelance. They were mostly there for the Ultimo Dragon anniversary show and stayed a little longer to work the Sumo Hall show.
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Kodama - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:53:44 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.5840759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840749
Or if he joined, Naito could just say Sami since Hiromu gets his forename too.
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Matt Classic - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:56:20 EST ID:y6qoJ5Yx No.5840761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840753
Then my guess would be it was his teaser video that was played at the g1 finals. And I was excited to see Jay White return with a push and not get pigeonholed into Bullet Club undercard multiman matches. fuck
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Dick Murdoch - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 08:02:49 EST ID:hhV8kANQ No.5840764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840729
>I mean they technically have RUSH
didn't he jump to CRASH? I don't think he'll be ingobernabling for a while
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Adam Bomb - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 08:10:24 EST ID:jfGP5eFI No.5840765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840764
That's just a specific deal for Rush and his dad to work The Crash while still being CMLL. Rush is on the Anniversario card.
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TAKA Michinoku - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 08:14:47 EST ID:4/RvB6Ke No.5840767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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NOOO! GOD DAMN IT! WHY SAMI CALLIHAN?! Please keep his lame ass away from LIJ...
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Rodney Mack - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 08:51:14 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5840783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Found the full BOLA ratings:

>Night One
Dezmond Xavier vs Brian Cage - ***1/2
Marty Scurll vs Flash Morgan Webster - ***3/4
Rey Fenix vs Rey Horus - ****1/4
Chosen Bros (Cobb & Riddle) vs MonSTARS (Keith Lee & Dijak) - ****1/2
Penta el 0M vs Matt Sydal - ***3/4
ZSJ vs Jonah Rock - ***1/4
Ricochet vs Flamita - ****1/4
>Night 2
Donovan Dijak vs Trevor Lee - ***1/2
Sammy Guevara vs Joey Janela - ****1/2 ("Second best match of the tournament")
Travis Banks vs Mark Haskins - ***1/2
LDRS (ZSJ & Scurll) vs Ricochet & Sydal - ****1/2
Jeff Cobb vs Sami Callihan - ***1/4
Matt Riddle vs Michael Elgin - ****1/4
Keith Lee vs WALTER - ***1/2
The Elite vs Penta el 0M, Rey Fenix, & Flamita - ****1/4 (apparently the ring broke and that held back the match a lot)
>Night 3 (SPOILERS)
Ricochet vs Dezmond Xavier - ***1/2
Travis Banks vs Marty Scurll - ***3/4
Keith Lee vs Donovan Dijak - ***** (FIVE STARS)
Rey Fenix vs ZSJ - ****1/4
Jeff Cobb vs Sammy Guevara - ***1/4
Matt Riddle vs Penta el 0M - ****1/4
Ricochet vs Travis Banks - ****1/4
Keith Lee vs Rey Fenix - ***1/4
Jeff Cobb vs Matt Riddle - ***1/2
Janela/Haskins/Flamita/Webster/Taylor vs Trevor/Cage/Jonah/WALTER/Callihan - ****
BOLA Final: Keith Lee vs Ricochet vs Jeff Cobb - ****1/2
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Wahoo McDaniel - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 08:58:04 EST ID:S+7IjDaG No.5840788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840727
Taguchi Japan, the best stable.
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Rich Swann - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:01:00 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5840791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Jericho did an interview on 107.7 The Bone and talked about how he got the Styles clash unbanned. At first, when Styles came to WWE, because Yoshitatsu and others were injured from the move, Styles was told he couldn’t use the move. Jericho said he knew it was a safe move and that if Vince McMahon actually saw what the move was, he would let Styles use it. So Styles used the move in a match with Jericho, which was not the finish. Jericho noted that people were on his case for kicking out of the move, not realizing there was a method to all this. He said that he eventually went to Vince and asked him what he thought of the move and the big reaction to the kick out, but was careful never to say Styles clash, with the idea the move was banned, but Vince actually didn’t know what the move was. Jericho, after the match, went to Vince, and put over the move saying he thought Styles should use it as a finisher. And Vince agreed that it looked good enough to be a finisher, not realizing that move was the Styles clash.

lmao, vince is so complicated to work.

jericho is still a-ok in my book
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Rodney Mack - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:01:59 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5840792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840788
Not if he joins it it won't be.

I don't hate Callihan as a worker but he in no way works with New Japan's style, even with their western influences. I dread to think that some of the fuck-awful spots fromhis OI4K trios matches would make it to a big NJPW show. If somebody catches a superplex into a "powerbomb" that does nothing at Sumo Hall or the Dome or something then wrestling is dead; worst spot of the decade.
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Darkness Crabtree - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:02:27 EST ID:WWyI6g7I No.5840793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the Horsewomen vs. Horsewomen match set up at the Mae Young Classic is scheduled to build to a match between the two groups at Survivor Series. That would lead to a Rousey singles match at WrestleMania, with Stephanie McMahon and Charlotte being the names most talked about.
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Seina - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:03:22 EST ID:oJLYWYwN No.5840794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's weird, Callahan is great in some promotions and terrible as heck in others. hopefully "Thumbs Up... Thumbs Down" is not gonna be carried with him to japan
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Hardcore Holly - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:04:14 EST ID:X2nflWD8 No.5840795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840717
This. I think everyone appreciates the thought, but the Style's Clash really isn't that impressive of a move.
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Teddy Hart - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:05:22 EST ID:rW1LzUAV No.5840797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5840727
> Sami Callihan is scheduled to debut in NJPW before the end of the year
I guess that explains this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dCNzgM8F3Q
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Harvey Wippleman - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:08:02 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5840800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840708
That news about the expanding merchandise is kind of a big fucking deal.
I'm not into that section of the wrassle world, but if those do well it's reasonable to think that "cool looking nonWWE shirt" could expand in lots of ways
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Wendi Richter - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:18:42 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.5840808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> AAA has just gotten a U.S. television outlet on Univision Deportes. They’ve been airing a lot of older footage. The show airing on 9/10 is scheduled to be TripleMania, or at least some matches from the show, airing at 9 p.m. Eastern

Says 11pm est here
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Rich Swann - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:50:17 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5840829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Sami Callihan is getting a New Japan gig
>Sami has the book in CZW
>Sami will put his time in in the NJPW undercard
>Sami will eventually gain a voice in the locker room like the Young Bucks
>Sami will be able to recommend new gaijin
>CZW could become a feeder for New Japan
>Matt Tremont and Joey Janela could actually be given a break on a New Japan B show
>The Crist Brothers will probably get to go first though
>Sami's entire NJPW run is going to be wrestling twitter getting louder and louder about the domestic abuse against Crissy Rivera situation
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Brad Armstrong - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 09:51:30 EST ID:v40KyWtm No.5840832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840711
>WWE writers are pissed off at Heyman because he actually knows what he's fucking doing

GO BACK TO HOLLYWOOD
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Duke Droese - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:12:35 EST ID:aJ+rnvFD No.5840838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840829
>Sami's entire NJPW run is going to be wrestling twitter getting louder and louder about the domestic abuse against Crissy Rivera situation

I had no idea about this, care to shed some light?
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Tetsuya Natio - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:20:22 EST ID:QGahJjlz No.5840843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840711
>Darren Young returned this weekend on the Raw crew working in Battle Royals. He came back to little fanfare and no television push for his return, nor with Bob Backlund. He was not used on television, even for Main Event
So is he great again yet?
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TAKA Michinoku - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:49:18 EST ID:4/RvB6Ke No.5840851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840843
Darren Young would have been released a long time ago but WWE keeps him around because he's openly gay.
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Alberto Del Rio - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:51:03 EST ID:/sTNnFdh No.5840853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840752
Then they immediately booked a few. I guess that's politics for ya

>SEE! WE ARE BOOKING ROH GUYS! WE WERE JUST WAITING FOR THE RIGHT TIME!
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Rodney Mack - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:07:08 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5840861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840838
Recently people in the wrestling community were advocating domestic violence victims to speak up, likely in the advent of Mecha Wolf Mr. 450 being outed as a piece of shit abuser and generally awful person (primarily by Mustafa Ali). Callihan's ex-wife, prior to him dating Havok, spoke up. Apparently Callihan's been blocking people that try to confront him about it, as well as people who criticize that he's booking SHLAK, who has some sketchy ties that lead to Gabe removing him from an FIP show.

In a related note, WrestleCircus is booking Mecha Wolf 450 on their next show after advocating against domestic violence (apparently the owner of the company herself is a former domestic abuse victim), and are saying they're fine with booking him since he wasn't convicted.
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Adam Bomb - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:08:43 EST ID:q+24smgi No.5840864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel for Darren but dude has to b riding out his contract

>Constant injuries
>Little fanfare
>Not particularly great in the ring or on the mic

If Darren wasn't openly gay then he'd have nothing.
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Glacier - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:09:24 EST ID:o1T5qn0l No.5840866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anybody have the new B&V show?
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Headbanger Mosh - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:11:37 EST ID:6wzRQTu6 No.5840867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840727
God I hope he doesn't join LOS. They're at a sweet spot right now that fits perfectly for them. They have enough guys to call it a full stable, but not too many to where half of them are fodder and don't matter.
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A.J. Styles - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:13:36 EST ID:tDCVzqZQ No.5840870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Thought that promo package at the G1 was for My boy Jay White finally returning
>No, it's for Sami fucking Callihan
Fuck you, Gedo.
>>5840793
So what? Alexa, Naomi and all the other girls have to be shoved to the side ibstead of having a 5v5 RAW vs Smackdown women's match as usual so that WWE can get some recognition by using washed up former mma fighters
Good God this company's desire to be noticed by the mainstream again again is pathetic.
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Rosa Mendes - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:16:44 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5840871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840861
I still don't get the demand for organic free range fair trade gluten free wrestling.

It's carnies dropping each other on their heads for drug money. Why care if they're good people.
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Rodney Mack - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:18:56 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5840873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840867
I legitimately doubt they'd add Callihan. LIJ has an actual ethos and reasoning behind who joins them, and they are the only stable in NJPW that is 100% Japanese (unless you count the Dads/Veterans as a stable) which has a purpose.

LIJ is built around guys who tried to fit the mold and tradition of Japanese wrestling and realized it just wasn't for them; guys who were shaped by (but mostly unappreciated during) their excursions to the west. There's a whole other tangent I could go on about how important it is that Hiromu is the only member Naito extended the membership to instead of them coming into the fold on their own, but that's not relevant here. The point is that Callihan doesn't fit that; at best you could say he was underutilized in NXT and that gave him his drive to succeed after leaving, but it's a very different kind of path to the LIJ boys.
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Rich Swann - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:22:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5840874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840871
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
wrestling's audience is dominated by the nerd culture demo and this is the current state of nerd culture

Wrestling's always going to be this scummy thing but I think there can still be a decency line. Real pieces of shit don't deserve success.
Mr 450 denies the (multiple) allegations against him and blames the victim. That's shitty.
Steve Austin owned up to his mistakes and speaks about them remorsefully and repentantly and is willing to own it for the rest of his life.

if Sami did something shitty (and enough people in the philly indie/chikara/czw scene have said he did), he's at a crossroads to address it.

Trial by Tiwitter is also fucking stupid and irresponsible.
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Joey Ryan - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:28:40 EST ID:P7CWzsNl No.5840879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840761
>>5840870
It had static and a switchblade, who else could it have been than Sami? How would it have anything to do with Jay White?
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Becky Bayless - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:38:48 EST ID:LOMQdsDd No.5840884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840879
young boys traditionally get repackaged upon returning and it wouldn't have been any odder a gimmick change than Watanabe becoming EVIL
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Tsukushi - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:39:44 EST ID:Nd3WFycx No.5840885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840873
I'd agree but Gedo's also an idiot
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Jim Powers - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:44:09 EST ID:q1lGM/Cg No.5840892 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Sexy Star has been stripped of her Reina de Reinas title as punishment for the incident at TripleMania. We’ve got more on the reaction to that in the GFW section. There was no public explanation given, only that they were stripping her of the title. Among the fans in Mexico who still care about titles, they couldn’t understand why and many were sympathetic to her since she’s gone on television and made herself the victim in the situation.

So I guess the greater portion of the lucha fan base in Mexico doesn't read wrestling news. Poor ignorant fools.
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Rhett Titus - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:48:20 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5840896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840864
WWE has a guy less talented as their champion
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Jazz - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:49:40 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5840898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Sami Callihan is scheduled to debut in NJPW before the end of the year

Fuck off cat man
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Adam Bomb - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:51:53 EST ID:q+24smgi No.5840899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840896
>Looks
Jinder

>Mic Skills
Jinder

>In ring ability
Jinder by a small margin

>Mass appeal
Jinder

Unless you think Darren as an openly gay wrestler is better than Jinder as a Punjab fighting for all 1.3 billion of his people based solely on gimmick there is no way Darren > Jinder.
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Rhett Titus - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:55:38 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5840900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840899
Jinder is disgusting and looks like an exploded hot dog with acne

THE SAME PROMO EVERY WEEK AND BAD PUNJABI

Jinder's crap in-ring. At least D. Young can do a fucking suplex.

>appeal

lel
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Shane Douglas - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:58:04 EST ID:uXbGQaAl No.5840901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Nikki Bella starts on Dancing With the Stars on 9/18, so WWE will have competition from both that show and football on Mondays this fall. Her competition on the show will be Barbara Corcoran (Shark Tank TV show), Debbie Gibson (actress and singer), Derek Fisher (former NBA star), Drew Scott (TV show host), Frankie Muniz (former star of Malcolm in the Middle), Jordan Fisher (singer and actor best known for the live Grease show), Lindsey Stirling (violinist), Nick Lachey (star of band 98 Degrees), Sasha Pietersie (from Pretty Little Liars), Terrell Owens (NFL star), Vanessa Lachey (MTV host) and Victoria Arlen (a participant in the Paralympic games)

>Frankie Muniz (former star of Malcolm in the Middle)
ha
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Joey Ryan - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:04:26 EST ID:P7CWzsNl No.5840905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840711
So... WWE are mad at Heyman for... making it good?
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Rosa Mendes - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:06:24 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5840908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840905
sounds like normal lolWWE
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Shane McMahon - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:07:16 EST ID:1Xr0dCqF No.5840909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840899
>Mass appeal
>Jinder

Not even indians like him, and he looks like fucking shit. Darren looks good and has an ok body.

Darren is way better in-ring as well.
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Duke Droese - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:42:41 EST ID:aJ+rnvFD No.5840921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840861
That's a shame, I met Chrissy a handful of times back when she was dating Sami when he first got to CZW. She was always really nice. Fuck Sami if all of that is true.
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The Esperanza - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:49:34 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.5840926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Hours before Kairi Sane and Shayna Baszler square off in the final match of WWE’s inaugural Mae Young Classic this Tuesday on WWE Network, watch Superstars and celebrity-athletes walk the red carpet at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, live on Facebook.com/WWE.

>Cathy Kelley will host coverage from the red carpet, which begins at 6 ET/3 PT. With the Mae Young Classic Finale being one of Sin City’s hottest tickets next week, luminaries from all walks of life will be in attendance for the all-important event.

>Among those expected to appear on the carpet and speak to members of the media are former UFC Women’s Bantamweight Champion Ronda Rousey, former Team USA soccer star and two-time Olympic gold medalist Hope Solo, WWE COO Triple H, Chief Brand Officer Stephanie McMahon, The Bella Twins, Charlotte Flair and Bayley. Cast members of the hit Netflix series, “GLOW,” will also be on hand Tuesday for one of the most pivotal nights in the history of women’s wrestling.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/maeyoungclassic/2017-09-12-mae-young-classic-finale/article/mae-young-classic-red-carpet

Nows their chance to finally do the payoff to that Kong/Bellas promo from 2011
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Mark Briscoe - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:52:16 EST ID:1uOcuZ2H No.5840929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5840793
That would lead to a Rousey singles match at WrestleMania, with Stephanie McMahon and Charlotte being the names most talked about.
>Stephanie McMahon
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Elektra - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:58:20 EST ID:Tlg9gWny No.5840934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840905

Considering they went out of their way to cut him out and sabotage both Smackdown (2004) and ECW (2006) it's pretty clear Vince hates the fact he can book circles around him any day of the week. I don't think he ever recovered from Smackdown beating Raw in the ratings in 2003.
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Tetsuya Natio - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:58:28 EST ID:QGahJjlz No.5840935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840905
The writers are probably frustrated enough just with dealing with Vince coming in constantly requesting changes to the stuff they come up with. Having Heyman come in and doing it too must be even more aggravating, regardless as to whether his ideas are good or not.

It's probably like being a writer on a comedy show where the main stars will just adlib a lot of their stuff anyway. It makes you wonder 'well, why the hell am I even here then?'
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Andre the 3000 - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 13:05:19 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5840936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I actually like Sami Callihan so
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Andre the 3000 - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 13:38:31 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5840962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840926
Imagine if they shoot an angle with Alison Brie
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Gorgeous George - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 13:44:06 EST ID:cVc2tnFO No.5840970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840737
At this point, Fenix should talk to Flamita and work a deal to go to Dragon Gate instead
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Dragonfly - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 14:17:59 EST ID:ENrLmIe0 No.5840991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840970
Fenix hasn't been with AAA fo ages. Why would he want to work undercard tags in Japan when he can work on top of various US and MEX promotions?
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Mike Adamle - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 14:48:01 EST ID:MfF5VF+N No.5841017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840793
I am so fucking sick of this
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Luke Gallows - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 17:15:06 EST ID:jn9pteZU No.5841129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone got the b&v show?
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Matt Classic - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 17:22:26 EST ID:uqRTe/9l No.5841142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840991
Hey, Flamita got a Brave Gate run in Dragon Gate. Fenix could do the same.
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Seina - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 17:36:31 EST ID:na0rgITl No.5841157 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840926
checking up on this literally none of the cast have mentioned coming to the event on twitter. of course no-one except kong has mentioned watching or being aware of the myc before but that's to be expected
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Highlander Robbie - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 18:05:22 EST ID:OB147FIV No.5841183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840793

Oh good I cannot wait for those promos.

Thank god I don't watch WWE anymore.
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WrestlingTheSport - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 18:19:36 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5841198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841183

How do you know if someone on /wooo/ doesn't watch WWE?

Just wait a few minutes, they'll tell you.
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Highlander Robbie - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 18:27:53 EST ID:OB147FIV No.5841207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841198
It changed my life.
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Cody Deaner - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 20:12:26 EST ID:HK2BFy6A No.5841256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.nknews.org/2017/09/professional-wrestler-turned-politician-antonio-inoki-to-return-to-north-korea/

Ty based inoki
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Ring Ryda Blue - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 20:15:52 EST ID:osNvTKTi No.5841257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841256

>Subscribe to read the remaining 443 words of this article.
Nice try, Kosuke Takahashi.
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Tugboat - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 20:39:07 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5841273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840783
>joey fucking janela had the second highest rated match of bola
way more excited to see this than lee dijak tbh
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Low Ki - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 21:13:33 EST ID:/In2L8I3 No.5841287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5840711
> Jericho did an interview on 107.7 The Bone and talked about how he got the Styles clash unbanned. At first, when Styles came to WWE, because Yoshitatsu and others were injured from the move, Styles was told he couldn’t use the move. Jericho said he knew it was a safe move and that if Vince McMahon actually saw what the move was, he would let Styles use it. So Styles used the move in a match with Jericho, which was not the finish. Jericho noted that people were on his case for kicking out of the move, not realizing there was a method to all this. He said that he eventually went to Vince and asked him what he thought of the move and the big reaction to the kick out, but was careful never to say Styles clash, with the idea the move was banned, but Vince actually didn’t know what the move was. Jericho, after the match, went to Vince, and put over the move saying he thought Styles should use it as a finisher. And Vince agreed that it looked good enough to be a finisher, not realizing that move was the Styles clash. He noted that story is in more detail in his new book

vintage vince
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Mean Smark Callous !DCxC2Z8fnY - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 21:22:09 EST ID:lpOYAYYG No.5841291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841287

That story is fucking hilarious, but wouldn't it have been easier just to tell Vince that Michelle McCool had been using the Styles Clash all along?
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Rhett Titus - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 21:47:57 EST ID:6KXLDb13 No.5841297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841287

Holy shit. No way.
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Deuce - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 21:50:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5841299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841291

No.
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Luna Vachon - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:06:25 EST ID:1Xr0dCqF No.5841304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841287
Should've done it for the muscle buster as well.
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The Great Sasuke - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:19:15 EST ID:1uOcuZ2H No.5841310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841287
>mfw jericho is a slick mother fucker and used his slickness to help aj "can fuck around and pull 4 stars" styles
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X-Pac - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:34:24 EST ID:noPsGdLH No.5841313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841287
classic Jericho
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Jack Evans - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 22:52:13 EST ID:sZIj7buj No.5841317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5840793
I mean, yeah, Charlotte makes sense because she has name recognition and is the """"""""""leader"""""""""" of the women's roster, but it should be Becky squaring off with Rousey, if anything. What's really rustling my jimmies is why in the fuck is Stephanie even considered to be a worthy opponent for Rousey to begin with outside of being the boss' kid & a squabble that no one remembers.
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Sarita - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:13:06 EST ID:gUUmBmaa No.5841324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841287
I don't really buy this, since they call it the Styles Clash on commentary which Vince is directly involved with. Never fully believe any story Jericho tells, he embellishes things and says things that didn't actually happen.
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Triple H - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 00:49:38 EST ID:7Ci6UHVM No.5841371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841317
Actually, it should be Asuka. But it jus goes to show how less faith they have in her.
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Bill Alfonos - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 00:56:30 EST ID:q51SfSYe No.5841373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841142
Not to mention even CIMA and YAMATO work the undercard tags in DG but if DG can work a deal to bring Fenix through Flamita and Konnan, my dream case booking be some promo by Konnan announcing he is bringing in Rey Fenix and Penta El 0M to Dragon Gate, challenging CIMA and Dragon Kid for the Open the Twin Gate titles in their debut and actually have Fenix and Penta win the titles cleanly, setting up potential matches later with other teams like Don Fujii and Masaak Mochizuki or Doi and Yoshino
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Hornswoggle - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 01:31:42 EST ID:W7D8o/Iw No.5841380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did I miss the latest BandV show?
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Rocky Johnson - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 03:59:39 EST ID:CWSBVZgW No.5841419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5840873

In addition to all this, all the members have strong relationships with each other (except maybe SANADA? Not sure but it's probably there). BUSHI asked Naito about Animal Hamaguchi's dojo back in high school and they ended up training there together. EVIL and Hiromu were young lions that Naito mentored, especially Hiromu in Mexico. Again not sure about SANADA but I have to guess he and Naito crossed paths when SANADA tried out (twice) for New Japan, and then worked TNA.

So yeah, not saying Sami can't infringe on the friendship circle but it wouldn't make ANY damn sense to include him. Not sure why people jumped to that conclusion so fast. Guess they're tired of every foreigner becoming a Bullet Club goon. For all we know he could join Suzukigun.
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Ricky Steamboat - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 04:13:34 EST ID:PEUHBiBB No.5841420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841419
Sanada and Naito teamed together on one of the All Together shows
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Rorschach - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 04:14:29 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.5841422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841317

WHAT DO YOU MEAN GOD DAMMIT SHE'S A MCMAHON! MCMAHONS ARE THE BIGGEST STARS IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL IF WE'RE GRACIOUS ENOUGH THAT THEY GET TO WORK A MAIN EVENT WITH A FUCKING SUPERSTAR AND RING GENERAL LIKE MY DAUGHTER, THE LEGENDARY STEPHANIE MCMAHON
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Sarita - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 05:31:53 EST ID:gUUmBmaa No.5841433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841380
It's on xwt. Registrations are open.
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Flip Kendrick - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 05:42:50 EST ID:HdqUU0v1 No.5841434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841433
Not an option for me at the moment.
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Sabu - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 05:49:46 EST ID:uaWqOvm6 No.5841435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841380
based asp has someone posting them

not linking here cause haters
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Veronica - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:31:33 EST ID:y6PW+PoV No.5841452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841435

link it.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:49:12 EST ID:bqW5NubO No.5841456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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BV&G
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/jiwzkpdt2z/070917_BVG.mp3
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:51:42 EST ID:bqW5NubO No.5841457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841456
WOR interview with Ed Nordholm (Anthem Vice-President and GFW President)
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/58vh2wbchf/080917_TNA.mp3
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:58:26 EST ID:bqW5NubO No.5841461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841457
Have Friday's WOL as well
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/keia24neh3/8th_September_2017_WOL.mp3
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Johnny Curtis - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 14:10:01 EST ID:kxp48ub+ No.5841597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Would a bro be willing to share the Jericho WOR?
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Vin Gerard - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:52:46 EST ID:naN1uFng No.5841647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Always check the last thread if you can't find what you're looking for.
boards.420chan.org/wooo/res/5835003.php#i5839842
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Chris Jericho - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:53:11 EST ID:A+PRWOYr No.5841649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841597
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/8r3boskc4s/WOR_Jericho.mp3
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Jaki Numazawa - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:53:49 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5841651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wait /wooo/ hates Sami Callihan now?

Not complaining, never been a massive fan, but the board used to gush over him like he was the second coming of Dick Murdoch. What changed?
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Ricky Steamboat - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:57:12 EST ID:PEUHBiBB No.5841653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651
He got accused of beating his ex-wife or something
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Claudio Castagnoli - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:58:20 EST ID:kq3nEqIW No.5841654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651
Two years in a """"developmental""" company without doing anything.
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Jesse Sorensen - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 16:24:38 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5841668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651
He exposed himself as never being that good to begin with
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Rhett Titus - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 16:32:42 EST ID:z/7Imtj8 No.5841671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651
I'm just sick to death of all these gajins.
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Rosita - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 16:51:07 EST ID:ooxghLVe No.5841680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651

He's the real start of that real self indulgent style where he forces his spots in and really takes his time. That run around the ring to kick his opponent into the crowd, the multiple takes forever face washes in the corner and the repeated suicide dive spots are all the worst. He can have a good match but that sort of stuff ruins it for me cause it takes the crowd out of it. With his infuence on the indies now, you're seeing that style everywhere.
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Mima Shimoda - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 16:52:19 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5841682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651
He's a damn good high-speed sprint worker, he's a really good shitheel, and I think he has a good grasp on where indie wrestling is going.

That said, his face work is mediocre, he works too many "epics", the spots he's introducing/popularizing in tags/trios matches are horrible garbage, the direction indie wrestling is going with him as a main influencer is not great (there's realizing people will be pulled in by clips and completely falling for the gif culture meme), and his sense of humor is just bad. Also if that stuff about him beating his first wife is true and he's really just denying it/ignoring it then he's a piece of shit.

On top of all that his style couldn't clash with Japanese wrestling more. Maybe pre-NXT Callihan would fit in Big Japan or FREEDOMS or something, but modern "For OUR Generation, By OUR Generation" Callihan has become an avatar of the modern American/UK indie scene and removing him from that and putting him into New Japan just feels like a huge mis-match, unless that's either the intention or his gimmick is going to be a change of pace for him.
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 17:03:08 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5841691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651

He was popular for more than six months, so it had to happen.
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Mima Shimoda - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 17:14:51 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5841697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841691
There's a difference between people randomly souring on a talent and them actively changing into something different.

The first ~year after leaving NXT Callihan did nothing but build himself up by getting booked EVERYWHERE and just becoming a workhorse. He had a ton of awesome matches all over the place and helped put AAW on the map. Eventually, he got enough clout and popularity that he's been able to dictate how things are going in the indie scene; guys he works with in the midwest are starting to become bigger names, he has the book for CZW and is changing the landscape of that whole company, spots in his matches are becoming popular both in direct use and inspiration of others (for better or worse; mostly worse). He's pushing for this new wave of indie wrestling for the current generation, fueled by matches directed specifically towards .gif Culture and a more contrived style in general for what I can only assume is a total acknowledgement that wrestling is fake and that the best way to deal with the fact that everybody in attendance knows is to just put on the craziest match possible because nobody gives a damn about realism or storytelling. Even his run on top of AAW suffered; when he was full-on heeling it up he was a contender for one of the best on the indies and now he's mostly having matches that are in the okay/good range because they don't grab you anymore.

Sami's carved a REALLY good position for himself in the wrestling world. I just don't think it's going to lead to good things, and that sucks because he was on top of the world in regards to his output less than a year ago.

P.S. If I start seeing more people do the Jake Crist "catch a superplex into a powerbomb" thing, especially if they bring it to Japan, then wrestling is dead.
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The Red Rooster - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 20:12:28 EST ID:xU2HBdj6 No.5841771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651

Literally the only bad thing I have to say about Sami Callihan is I fucking HATE the spitting. It's so fucking gross and unnecessary.

Also /wooo/ fucking hates everything because most of them are a bunch of miserable druggies who no one pays attention to irl so they have to seek attention online.
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Justin Gabriel - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 21:34:30 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5841823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't hate on Sami because he had my favorite match I've seen in person this year.

Though it's not saying much because I haven't been to as many shows as I'd like and a large part of that has to do with me being a huge Penta mark.
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Traci Brooks - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 21:47:03 EST ID:rfbE4Ypr No.5841829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841771

You would never want to be in the first 4 rows of an Ernie Ladd match then. He spit for distance.
oldfag reporting in.
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Marty Jannetty - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:47:45 EST ID:R1//DVyl No.5841860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841829
Ernie Ladd is my dude, I would love to have an hour interview with him. He seems like a stoic motherfucker with great stories to share. I always like listening into what he has to say.
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Faby Apache - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:49:08 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.5841861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841860

>I would love to have an hour interview with him.

Yeah about that...
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Marty Jannetty - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:57:14 EST ID:R1//DVyl No.5841865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841861
yeah, totally meant in the 'if you could pick anyone to have dinner with living or dead situation'...


no i didn't, fuck, didn't know ernie had died. i saw him pop up on a lot of early wwe on-demand shit so figured the dude was healthy, especially in comparison to some of the legends of his day, fuckin' cancer man... :(
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Traci Brooks - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 23:44:12 EST ID:rfbE4Ypr No.5841880 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841865
don't kick yourself too hard, Ernie in life was bigger than life. Wrestling fans forget his pro football days. He was even more badass then, even without the taped thumb.
Being old, I'm happy to be able to say I saw him live (and dodged his spittle), tbh-I think he was even better than Bobo Brazile. Though I don't think Ernie ever faced (or got face ripped up/burned) the Sheik. Ernie's a forgotten treasure.
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j*e - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 03:39:35 EST ID:qWFUkJ7J No.5841949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841671

I am in the same boat. Like no doubt the foreigners they have been bringing in have been pretty good, but I wanna see more Japanese wrestlers. If they are worried about talent, go raid some companies in Japan like BJW or DG :p
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Jimmy Hart - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:57:42 EST ID:upI0bYW+ No.5842027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone got the new WOR?
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Hajime Ohara - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:15:13 EST ID:2Youmaxo No.5842033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841287
I love Jerichos stories about Vince. People gave him shit for being a shill but he knows how to work Vince.
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Violent J - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:27:22 EST ID:L8HzJTCa No.5842041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5841880
Fellow older-dude here. I actually got to see the Von Erichs a few times as a kid. Incredible. Never got to see Ernie, unfortunately. What territory did you see him in? I assume Watts', but tbh, I don't know a whole lot about his career. I do know he was a mainstay there, however.
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Marty Jannetty - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 10:27:27 EST ID:R1//DVyl No.5842058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841880
Dude no doubt, I really wonder how he managed to come out alive being a [black] heel in deep South [Florida]. He must have some wild stories.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 11:08:10 EST ID:bqW5NubO No.5842072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842027
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/4jndj9sukv/9th_September_2017_WOR.mp3
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Amasis - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 12:15:10 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5842107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I figure this is big enough news for the dirtsheet thread: DJ Hyde has apparently sold 50% of CZW to Matt Tremont, who is promising that Ultraviolence isn't going anywhere (since that was in question given that Callihan has the book now).
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Traci Brooks - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 12:25:19 EST ID:rfbE4Ypr No.5842112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842041
I got a chance (two chances) to see Ernie in the short-lived IWA (International Wrestling Association) that was around in the early-mid 70s. First match was against the IWA's sometimes-colorman-announcer, but still in-ring talent, Tex McKenzie. I think the second match might have been against Red Bastien.
IWA was a great idea, took a slew of big-named talent from a bunch of promotions, even put the World Title belt on Mil Mascaras (who looked great-and never sold to anyone). It was just mismanaged to hell though.
It was wrestling's version of the "World Football League" (not the recent NFL minor league), only without the "Dicker Stick". I know there are vids available on YT, the opening to the show alone is worth the watch.
Don't worry-you won't see me on them, they never taped when they came to Central VA.

btw-where'd you see the Von Erichs? WCCW?

Pic not related, just one of the few that came out from my trip to Bound For Glory '15. Needed something for filler.
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Hillbilly Jim - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 12:39:52 EST ID:v75wAX5V No.5842127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>kneeing on a pile of fake news

Where is the shredder? Or can I find these sheets in his garbage can? I need them!
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Pat Patterson - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 12:55:50 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5842134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842127
>Dave still has a rolodex

I'm not even shocked.
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Hillbilly Jim - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:07:16 EST ID:v75wAX5V No.5842138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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WTF?
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:32:07 EST ID:7g9ZQI3T No.5842153 Report Quick Reply
>>5842138
They bought a banner.
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Wifebeater - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:53:31 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5842163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842138
>>5842153
At least they bothered to do so unlike WCPW and WrestleCircus.
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Smash - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:55:42 EST ID:J7kGjmMc No.5842165 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842138
he bought a banner and a Southpaw t-shirt

he deserves to be there
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Consequences Creed - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:03:07 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5842170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842153
>tfw when somebody actually bought a banner
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Billy Gunn - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:09:37 EST ID:KSJCYb/D No.5842174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842153
Remember the dude who bought a banner for his amazon wishlist. That dude was a genius.
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Colt Cabana - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:39:03 EST ID:T9nV8XPs No.5842189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651
I like Callihan personally, though the wifebeating is a little concerning especially since Havok is my wrestlefu and I don't want her getting hurt like that .
He's always entertained me and I'm glad he's getting his due. WWE really missed out on him
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Dick Togo - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:17:51 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5842202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842189
its not Havok

its supposedly (probably) his first wife: Chrissy Rivera
Much less of a physical threat than Havok
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Velvet Sky - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:19:33 EST ID:4/RvB6Ke No.5842229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't give a fuck who Sami Callihan beats. He can beat his entire extended family for all I care. I just don't to have to see him in a promotion that I follow.
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Amasis - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 16:23:40 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5842230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842229
Well if he does beat people then that could lead to him being blacklisted by companies and thus show up in less places, which also contributes to your desires as well.
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Wendi Richter - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 17:14:41 EST ID:kRntZ/fT No.5842252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5840706
>Callihan in NJPW
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Pat Patterson - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 17:41:26 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5842284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841651
He has the worst look in professional wrestling. Dude looks like the kind of guy you thought would shoot up a school, but actually just sat around watching ainme.
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Lauren Brooke - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 18:04:41 EST ID:c7LLtpR1 No.5842308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842127
>being unaware that this image was an April Fool's gag
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Johnny C. - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 19:47:46 EST ID:F4wWE9hN No.5842366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841287
I love this story but the timeline seems impossible. He teased the clash the night after the Rumble but didn't actually hit Jericho with it in that match. His first Styles Clash was on the first post-Rumble SD against Curtis Axel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68dtOdxPJYg

So unless they banned it after hyping the move on his first night and having him beat a jobber with it on night 2, I don't see how this is possible. And if they did ban it after, how did Vince not know what it was?
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Kevin Sullivan - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 19:53:38 EST ID:HBEQwCrS No.5842370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842252
>Callihan in NJPW
really tho?
really?
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Consequences Creed - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 19:54:57 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5842372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pagano in NJPW would be cool
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Lenny Lane - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:04:46 EST ID:lbKDErE+ No.5842375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842372
>Small Brain: Pagano in NJPW
>Big Brain: Pagano in DDT
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Blackjack Mulligan - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:05:21 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5842376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842372
Pagano was born to work FREEDOMS. Anywhere else in Japan would just not be as good of a fit, even Big Japan (although that'd be pretty great).
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Justice - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:13:38 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5842383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842376
You're talking as if Pagano isn't a Triplemania main eventer.
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Blackjack Mulligan - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:17:11 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5842388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842383
I meant stylistically. He'd fit right in with Jun Kasai's brand of deathmatches, just a little more than he'd fit in with Big Japan's deathmatches (which makes sense considering FREEDOMS often has Mexican indie deathmatch guys like Miedo Extremo and Violento Jack work for them).
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Tony Mamaluke - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:32:39 EST ID:v75wAX5V No.5842400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842308
>this image was an April Fool's gag

This video too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pb5ZhWOITQ

RIP Meltz Sr. 
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Tony Mamaluke - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:43:13 EST ID:v75wAX5V No.5842404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tons of obsolete stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8exKGcS_1xg
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HalDidntDoIt !2vlFukDhqg - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 21:15:51 EST ID:aDZeCa5m No.5842417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842404
who gets it when I murde- I mean, when he dies peacefully in his sleep?
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zane !rInx4GYeGc - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 21:22:19 EST ID:3bv3686C No.5842421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842174
According to Kirt, the dude got like the mass majority of the stuff on it. I've been kinda tempted to try it and see what happens.
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Scotty Vortekz - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 21:51:28 EST ID:ZyW9UUCr No.5842442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842400
It's like a deleted scene from Rainman. He looks and sounds like Dustin Hoffman here.
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Cary Silkin - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 00:25:01 EST ID:Rn++FayK No.5842497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842404
>6th largest wrestling vhs collection in the world

I love this man.
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Gordon Solie - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 01:38:32 EST ID:8w52G7ZH No.5842530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842404
"Hello and welcome to On Wrestling At The Wrestling with your host Dave Meltzer, coming to you live from the Observer Film Archives"

"First is Tyler Breeze v Aiden English...a match that has been getting a lot of buzz and it is my early Slammy Pick...I give it 6 Stars and ...ooh, let's throw in one tub of Pre-Workout"
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Kurt Angle - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:44:18 EST ID:jEdZbDnW No.5842543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842421
>according to the guy who benefits from people buying banners buying a banner gets you everything you ask for!
lol you simpleton
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Pinkie Sanchez - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:22:06 EST ID:GH3CQCNx No.5842588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone got B&V NWA?
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R-Truth - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:37:10 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.5842595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842174
>>5842421
That was actually me.
The hardest part was trying to figure out what people were willing to buy for you.

I got a couple gag stuff and I got some stuff for my cat.

I didn't make the full $100 back but I don't regret it.

It also caused a BUNCH of people to buy banners right after I did.

If I had to do it over, i would have made it about getting stuff I needed for my cat.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 07:39:15 EST ID:bqW5NubO No.5842596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842588
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/bd9caqdhwe/091017bvshow.mp3
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Pinkie Sanchez - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:06:58 EST ID:GH3CQCNx No.5842604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842596
Cheers fampai <3
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Sylvain Grenier - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:29:06 EST ID:h9yMSoVz No.5842672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842404
He's so cute
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Jonny Fairplay - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:09:18 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5842870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> The current plan for former WWE NXT Women's champion Asuka is for her to debut on the Raw brand, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources.

> Asuka is currently out with a collarbone injury but is slated to appear on the WWE live events in Japan next week, which are Smackdown-branded events.

> WWE will be helping to promote her debut with a planned WWE Network Collection of Asuka matches, which will debut on the streaming service in October.
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Lex Luger - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:13:50 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.5842872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The Raw brand will be holding two live events this December in New Delhi, India at the 16,000 seat Indira Ghandi Indoor Stadium, the first time the company has toured that country since launching its localized weekly series WWE Sunday Dhamaal in Hindi.

>WWE will run the stadium on Friday 12/7 and Saturday 12/8.

>The tour will also see WWE return to Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates on Thursday 12/6, running the Zayed Sports City Tennis Stadium.

>It will be interesting to see whether the current WWE champion Jinder Mahal or the Singh Brothers, technically Smackdown talents, will be working that tour.

https://pwinsider.com/article/112225/wwe-touring-india-this-december.html?p=1
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Chri - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:14:26 EST ID:Tlg9gWny No.5842873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842870

Welp, it's been good fellas.
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Mt. Fiji - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:17:04 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5842876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842870
Best case scenario IMO.
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Sgt. Slaughter - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:18:37 EST ID:HBEQwCrS No.5842878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842872
>Make Jinder the Champion on Smackdown and ruin the World Title scene there
>"BUT IT'S FOR INDIA WHEN THEY TOUR THERE HE WILL BE A GOD AND DRAW"
>Indian Tour rolls around
>Send the RAW brand
literally fucking why
What sense does this make?
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Kota Ibushi - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:19:28 EST ID:UF2KLQgv No.5842879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842870
>mfw i have to start watching Raw again
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Kevin Dunn - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:24:09 EST ID:/H7rX5uy No.5842884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842878

>Jinder joins the Raw brand for the India tour
>Main event is Jinder Vs. Jhon
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Mt. Fiji - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:36:33 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5842893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842878
Project Maharaja's a flop brother.
Last Hajeed thread I saw had fuckers lambasting Jinder for being a shitty Indian, what with all the cheating and whatnot.
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Crossbones - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:50:42 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.5842909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842893

I can't wait for them to pull the plug on the Jinder push and fire him again. He's still after all this time in the business and a baffling main event run only at the type of level I'd expect out of some bumfuck local indy.
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Chris Benoit - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:56:34 EST ID:T9nV8XPs No.5842912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842202
I was saying if the same thing happened to Havok, I'd be pissed. Not that he beat her originally
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Matt Bentley - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:01:03 EST ID:6jYDr9UI No.5842915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842202
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Sgt. Slaughter - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:46:55 EST ID:HBEQwCrS No.5842932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842909
Hey now I don't necessarily wanna see the guy fired, I just want this horrible fever nightmare of his Title regin to end. It's just wrong. The guy had been around for years, accomplished nothing, HHH did at least use him as his heel to build his first NXT Champion in Rollins, but that was 5 year ago. He was a permanent jobber, released, worked an IGF date or 2 for Inoki, maybe some independents around Calgary/Winnipeg or good money gigs in the US. But he came back on a lowball deal to be a jobber to put over guys, he did a bunch of TV job and house shows jobs forever, got punked out at Mania by a non-wrestler who is a far bigger star IRL than anyone in WWE for that matter, then suddenly they got wind of TNA making waves in India, they hear the population size and that they love who they tell them to love, the perfect marks, Jinder wins 1 or maybe 2 matches on TV and then suddenly BAM he's the WWE Champion. The belt with the original historic lineage back to 1963 and Nature Boy Buddy Rogers. THE belt in WWWF/WWF/WWE. I wouldn't care if it was the Universal Title they did thsi shit with, it's the fact that it's the original main top singles belt in the company, and it's on thsi guy who it shouldn't be on, who was built totally wrong, isn't over with the market they want him to be, they don't understand the fact that Indians get all the WWE content they need for free on their domestic TV networks, and then there is Desi-Rules/Bolly-Rulles/etc, those sites are literally made by hajeeds.
They ain't payin for shit and a massive % of the Indian population simply don't make enough money to be able to afford to buy WWE Network subs/merch/etc.
Even these Indian shows are gonna end up papered to hell cos they just won't pay and can't pay for a large part. It's a dead lead and they have shat all over the meaning and prestige of what it should take to be good enough to EARN that WWE Title. It's the wrong way to make a Champion and fans see through it more than ever in 2017.
Meanwhile John Cena v Shinsuke Nakamura is happening on free TV to build to who will face JINDER MAHAL for the WWE Title at the next PPV. Something does not belong in that equation and we ll know who it is. This failed experiment is an abomination and needs to end. It's a wild goose chase and it's fucking up the proper order of things on Smackdown which was supposed to be the good show.
Fuck.
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Magnum T.A. - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:27:22 EST ID:WOQaLV/s No.5842947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842932
>got punked out at Mania by a non-wrestler who is a far bigger star IRL
Never heard of Grunky fellow until AtGMBR, and I doubt anyone else (who doesn't watch NFL) has too
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Otto Schwanz - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:44:14 EST ID:5rJ3T+3H No.5842956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842947
You are wrong.
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C. Red - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:06:59 EST ID:pO2v0kua No.5843110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842893
>being a shitty Indian
But why would they hate him for being more authentic?
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Finlay - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 02:35:57 EST ID:vHg59ym4 No.5843288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5842956
I don't know the guy either. Checkmate.
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Highlander Robbie - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 02:49:42 EST ID:TO3ymxRk No.5843292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That Raw was bad

It had an acceptable at best opening match which looking back should have main evented the show that or Cena/Strowman

That fucking 8-Man was literally just a house show match why the fuck was that not aired during Hour 1? It's like Vince was focused at getting his points across during the beginning of Hour 1, The Beginning of Hour 2 and the Beginning of Hour 3

Meanwhile the builds during the remainder of the show all felt non important especially the Cruiserweight Division which was shelved to main event. Why in the fuck are they teasing an Intercontinental Championship feud after failing to with Jason Jordan and Jeff Hardy it's like Raw gives zero shits about all of its belts and yes that includes the Universal Championship because it goes months without it being defended
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Bobby The Brain Heenan - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 05:07:50 EST ID:RAdm2syG No.5843306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anybody got WOR?
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Hernandez - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 06:22:12 EST ID:pYz8yFAv No.5843311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WOR never ever
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Monty Brown - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 06:33:41 EST ID:9v4FGVPz No.5843312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5843292
Agree.

RAW, as usual, was horrible show af.
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Monty Brown - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 06:37:04 EST ID:9v4FGVPz No.5843314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5843312
Roman is bad.

Strowman looks retarded.
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BxB Hulk - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 06:49:50 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5843315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5843292
>It's like Vince was focused at getting his points across during the beginning of Hour 1, The Beginning of Hour 2 and the Beginning of Hour 3
Hi, welcome to multi hour tv programming 101.
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The Great Sasuke - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:33:24 EST ID:HEbxvJ1E No.5843323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>when you have to wait for the asp guy for WOR
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Becky Bayless - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:04:32 EST ID:P6f3BASv No.5843331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
where's my meltzer fix? Don't make me listen to kelliher.
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One Man Gang - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:07:32 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.5843333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5843331
It's on /asp/, but someone will probably copy their links here and take credit soon enough.
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Monty Brown - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:10:19 EST ID:9v4FGVPz No.5843335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5843333
fuck it.
here boys: https://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ijpxg4uou9/091217wo.mp3

from asp
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Jinsei Shinzaki - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:33:22 EST ID:XLDbKaC1 No.5843344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5843335
you have to go back xD
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Becky Bayless - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:36:47 EST ID:P6f3BASv No.5843346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5843335
>>5843333

On what kind of thread for future ref? All I see is shitposting and waifu threads.
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Yoshi Tatsu - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:38:30 EST ID:3mg30H+b No.5843348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5843346
the one with Herkules Poirot in OP
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Becky Bayless - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:42:34 EST ID:P6f3BASv No.5843351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5843348

Just saw it. I need to get out of the catalogs. Thanks friend.
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Blue Panther - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:29:23 EST ID:w4pHt6ne No.5844163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
retro?
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Reckless Youth - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:30:46 EST ID:Jr0v1pTv No.5844164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844163

This

I need my Nitro Bullshit
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Cyrus - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 04:26:53 EST ID:y6PW+PoV No.5844220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844163

Yep. I even browsed that asp and can't find it.
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Stan Lane - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 06:14:46 EST ID:h9iyPQ6B No.5844241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/e0qpuom125/091217bvshow.mp3
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JTG - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:21:57 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5844274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844241

First time I've listened to F4W shit in months, Alvarez is such a fucking dope.

>Austin loses the title twice in one year
>OH MY GOD A MILLION TITLE CHANGES!~~!~!

I feel sorry for people who treat his dogshit opinions as objective fact.
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The Maestro - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:16:45 EST ID:bu8UMhjh No.5844297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844274
did austin NOT lose the title twice in one year?
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Kofi Kingston - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:17:45 EST ID:/sTNnFdh No.5844350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844274
>then vinny says his total time as champion is shockingly low
Wow, it's almost like the context wasn't nearly as bad as what you were making it out to be. Nb for responding to a blatant shitposter.
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Chiva II - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 12:53:58 EST ID:HDwwhF9w No.5844411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844274
>>5844350

Please correct me if I'm wrong but weren't title changes faiirly uncommon back then?

Not to the extent of how things used to be in the 70s and earlier but still compared to todays rediculous hot potato title reigns.
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Mia Yim - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:09:52 EST ID:PuG9skD1 No.5844426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844411
In the attitude era? where do you think the constant hot potatoing of titles came from brah?
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Jim Powers - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:18:50 EST ID:l9gHE3ms No.5844428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844427
Inb4 deletion

Way to go idiot
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Rene Dupree - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:19:15 EST ID:j6mQICii No.5844429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844428
hownew.ru
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Babe the Farmer's Daughter - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:21:18 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.5844432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844427
IMMA MACHINE
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CIMA - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:21:57 EST ID:OXN6/Mv1 No.5844433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5844427
>This is a work-safe board. Posting adult images is forbidden.

enjoy your ban!
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Lauren Brooke - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:23:26 EST ID:T1sZmJEx No.5844438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844427
FROM THE 559
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Jim Powers - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:30:15 EST ID:l9gHE3ms No.5844443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844350
Vinny wasn't far from wrong. Austin lost the belt in September 98 and won it back at Mania 15 in April 99. He lost it to Taker and won it back over the summer then lost it to Haitch at SummerSlam after which I believe he didn't win it again until late 2000? Or if not 2000 it would have been Mania 17 in April 2001. He really didn't hold the belt for much of the Attitude Era.
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:31:48 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5844444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844427
THEY CALL HIM CAAGE
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Meare Naito - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:37:47 EST ID:TeSXQwtC No.5844451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5844427
>When newfags don't recognise the best current /wooo/ meme
[Terminator theme in the distance]
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:39:10 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5844454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844241
>that recap of Giant vs. Meng
we just watched that not long ago in MNW toob. As short and as simple as it was, it really was pretty fuckin great.
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Ricky Ortiz - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:46:05 EST ID:QGahJjlz No.5844456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5844444
THEY CALL HIM STACEY
THAT'S NOT HIS NAME
THAT'S NOT HIS NAME
THAT'S NOT HIS NAME
THAT'S NOT HIS NAME
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Equinox - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:48:08 EST ID:RXAwIlhp No.5844459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>cage machine porn posting is back
based
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Chris Benoit - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:52:09 EST ID:kxFs838N No.5844461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844459
at happens twice a month at least
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DASH Chisako - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 14:01:00 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5844469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844444
Nice quints
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Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:04:16 EST ID:5WNawHgu No.5844532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842202

It is Chrissy, she came out on an old podcast and said it.
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JTG - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:11:38 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5844537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844350

If not being an Alvarez fanboy makes me a shitposter then I'm proud to be one
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Kofi Kingston - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:03:33 EST ID:/sTNnFdh No.5844567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844537
>people that disagree with me are Alvarez fanboys
Nope, I'm just saying you took something out of context to feel justified in your silly hatred for the guy. I don't always agree with Alvarez, and there have been a few times where I felt he was a dumbass (i.e. getting defensive over not knowing the countries in the UK, all those intergender rants), but you don't need to take things out of context to shit on the guy.
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Ricochet - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:22:36 EST ID:m+m1JAwr No.5844583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh for fuck's sake.

Next thing we know Neville's hair will be a shot at CM Punk, a wrestler billed from Chicago will be a shot at CM Punk.
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Evangelina - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:31:24 EST ID:KBKWXXhi No.5844585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844583
I felt the sumblims at Punk during the lawsuit talk.
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Raisha Saeed - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:37:17 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5844588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844583
Punk is coming back at Mania to put over KO confirmed
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Shu Shibutani - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:39:46 EST ID:m44/MrkN No.5844590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844583

I know what you mean.....in other cases but not here. It was a definite dig at punk. Something juicy must've happened recently.
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Emi Fujino - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:44:30 EST ID:28UH0VUI No.5844595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5841682
>Callihan has become an avatar of the modern American/UK indie scene
oh...you mean the exact people new japan is trying to target with their westward expansion?im pretty stoked for it. ilike when guys like sabre come in with a completely different style and brings the njpw guys out of their comfort zone
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:48:07 EST ID:saBmzMOG No.5844689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dave will have a field day with Cormier getting back his belt.
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Scott Hall - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:11:28 EST ID:gCQj9wJO No.5844739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844411
Just wait until WCW starts to get really bad.
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Jonathan Barber - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:25:47 EST ID:pXVrEwBg No.5844745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844590
Punk had to split costs with WWE for discovery of all communications between WWE and its doctors and other people. He had to pay ~$120K while he only though he had to pay $40K and is trying/has tried to convince the judge WWE is being malicious in the huge price.
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Andre the 3000 - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 23:53:39 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.5844799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bryan Alvarez bitches too much
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MsChif - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 23:54:19 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5844800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844799
that's his gimmick brother
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Allison Wonderland - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 23:57:21 EST ID:ip1VhNaG No.5844803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844799
Small but Fierce
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Matt Hardy - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 00:07:46 EST ID:6SV3pO1F No.5844805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5842932

I think you're buying in way too hard on the idea that "earning" a title run has to do exclusively with kayfabe wins/losses. Jinder was made champion because he's young, and Vince thinks he can make a long term bankable heel out of him with this run. It's not like Jinder hasn't been around, hasn't paid his dues or hasn't been good to his fellow wrestlers.

He broke into the business in 2002 when he was just 16. He broke in with Nattie, Tyson Kidd, TJ Wilson and others in Stamped wrestling. He's been with the WWE for 8 years now, minus the two he spent on the indies. He's 31, which puts him as one of the youngest guys on smackdown - Baron Corbin is two years older. He's younger by a few months than Chad Gable and Big E. He's a guy that likely will be with the WWE for years, and having him able to put people over as a former WWE champion is a good idea.

Besides, he's going to be the perfect foil for John Cena when Cena inevitably wins #17, likely at Wrestlemania.
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Vickie Guerrero - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 00:36:50 EST ID:UFF+P6rp No.5844809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844803
The rabid wolverine.
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Tokyo Magnum - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 06:49:04 EST ID:ETtCWe5w No.5844902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5844805
>He broke in with ... Tyson Kidd, TJ Wilson
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CM Punk (Team Asuka) !uhdacqdci6 - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:26:53 EST ID:w6aWYy8B No.5844908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WOR, as appropriated from /asp/.

https://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/rnm5xq7n1d/091417wo.mp3
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Kevin Nash - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:43:47 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5844914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844805
>Jinder is a guy who'll be with the WWE for years

Until he fades back into the undercard and then gets cut a few years later the same as his last run?
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C. Red - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 08:56:11 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5844951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844914

He's established now, he'll be an upper mid carder/main eventer for the rest of his career.
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C. Red - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:01:21 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5844953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844908

Why the fuck do they still skim over Smackdown but spend an hour reviewing Raw on Monday?
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Kodama - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:12:45 EST ID:V7MP5JXb No.5844959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844953
Smackdown's a b-show.

Also, Alvarez does a Smackdown review with Filthy Tom earlier in the day.
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C. Red - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:15:32 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5844960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844959

No it isn't a b-show, anyone who believes this since they've gone live is a dummy.

And no one cares about what Alvarez thinks, its all about Meltzer on that website.
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Jazz - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:22:36 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5844966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844960
Lawlor's Smackdown prose reviews are glorious.
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Lance Bravado - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:29:07 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5844969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844960
I don't care about what Alvarez thinks, I care about what Filthy thinks.
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Bob Backlund - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:31:30 EST ID:EBjt630+ No.5844971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5844960
>No it isn't a b-show, anyone who believes this since they've gone live is a dummy.

>Right now WWE has four clear major stars that they are protecting, Cena, Strowman, Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns. All are on the Raw brand, so the lip service to separate but equal which was said leading into the latest brand split during the summer of 2016 is clearly out the window.

lmao. who's the real dummy?
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C. Red - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:52:57 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5844979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844971

You for using another persons opinion on who is being 'protected'
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Eddie Kingston - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:07:38 EST ID:XgcBkFSC No.5844982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844979
>All the real stars on one brand with Brock Lesnar as the champion
>no real stars their caliber on the other with Jinder Mahal as the champion
Sounds like a B show
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Shane Matthews - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:12:51 EST ID:UVnPkw+L No.5844983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844969
Where is that filthy?
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Lance Bravado - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:58:38 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.5844997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844983
Suddenly I realise this is last weeks thread, filthy is in this weeks dirtsheets.

NB because old thread
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Terra Ryzin - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 11:01:16 EST ID:fhZWi5ZY No.5844998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844951
Until he loses the title and they're like 'wtf do we do with him now?!'

He'll be losing by roll-up to some NXT call up in less than a year.
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Candice Michelle - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 23:49:48 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5845428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844951
>JUST like Miz
>JUST like Alberto
>JUST like Sheamus

>>5844998
Only a rollup? I'd be amazed if somebody on Smackdown now hasn't squashed him before the year is out.
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Gorilla Monsoon - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 00:03:25 EST ID:C4Y1o+H9 No.5845437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845428
Probably closer to Jack Swagger.
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Harvey Wippleman - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 00:09:12 EST ID:QGahJjlz No.5845438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845437
He's basically Rusev. They'll trot him out for 'disgruntled foreigner angry at america' spots for Tribute to the Troops and the occasional US title match, but that's pretty much it.
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Ken Shamrock - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 00:16:16 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5845439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
New thread is at >>5844810
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Manami Toyota - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 02:05:28 EST ID:2Youmaxo No.5845462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5844805
>Jinder has been wrestling for 15 years

How the fuck is he still so bad?
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Eve - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 07:36:03 EST ID:W5es4DnZ No.5845514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845462
ask natalya. some people jsut have different ceilings than others.
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Candice Michelle - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:00:30 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5845604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845514
>pretending Natalya is bad
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Kevin Dunn - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:06:18 EST ID:XLDbKaC1 No.5845609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845604
for how long she has been wrestling shes pretty bad
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Eve - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:07:21 EST ID:W5es4DnZ No.5845611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845604
she has no clue how to wrestle a fascinating match. Her technique and moves are fine but her transitions and tension build-up is shit. She wrestles like a SVR character
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Candice Michelle - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:11:41 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5845617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845611
Nobody in WWE agents their own matches: just look at how poor the Styles/Owens match-ups this Summer were
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Kevin Dunn - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:18:57 EST ID:XLDbKaC1 No.5845624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845617
Well they fucked up the finish to one of the matches, not WWEs fault

and AJs babyface run is not lighting the world on fire
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Candice Michelle - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:21:24 EST ID:bCri3bGi No.5845626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5845624
A babyface isn't supposed to be getting HEAT from the audience bbygrrrl


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