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Lucha Libre General Thread: Unmasked Edition by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:18:58 EST ID:sNWZNPv8 No.5849252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Continuing from last thread >>5697468

>Lucha Tube is on Wednesdays starting at 4pm EST / 9pm GMT in /wooo/tube - http://www.taima.tv/r/wooo and shows the latest lucha libre matches from CMLL, AAA and the lucha indie scene.
>When in season, Lucha Underground airs following Lucha Tube at 8pm EST / 1am GMT in /wooo/tube and /wooo/alt - http://www.taima.tv/r/woooalt
>CMLL’s weekly shows air live on Mondays at 10pm EST / 3am GMT, Tuesdays at 8:30pm EST / 1:30am GMT and Fridays at 9:30pm EST / 2:30am GMT in /wooo/tube 2 - http://www.taima.tv/r/wooo2
>Major CMLL and AAA shows will be shown live in /wooo/tube (or /wooo/alt or /wooo/tube 2 if there's a schedule conflict) when scheduled.

>News, Blogs, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/user/mluchatv (interviews)
https://www.youtube.com/user/decadas80s90s2000/videos (classics)
https://www.youtube.com/user/LuDarKShAiTAN/videos (Lucha deathmatches if youre into that sort of thing)

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 12-02-2018 19:11:35
Richie Steamboat - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:20:10 EST ID:3yWopV5D No.5849254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
RIP Shani/Hiedra OP, you will be missed. Long live Foxy Grandpa Wagner.
WrestlingTheSport - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:23:05 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5849255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr Wagner Jr looks like such a fucking badass unmasked.
Conor O'Brian - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:40:41 EST ID:v75wAX5V No.5849261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>posting unmasked guy
WrestlingTheSport - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:43:41 EST ID:hu7ZLtgc No.5849263 Ignore Report Quick Reply

He lost a mask vs mask match, it's fair game.
Angel de Oro - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:57:40 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5849266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kung Fu Wizard King Wagner is cool
Conor O'Brian - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:33:36 EST ID:v75wAX5V No.5849282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I know that, but it still hurts. Show some empathy.
Angel de Oro - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:46:50 EST ID:9nhpnAHh No.5849286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So what's the deal with these lucha photo comics?
Tyson Dux - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:56:25 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5849305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No lucha related casualties from the CDMX earthquake so far except for Virus/Blue Panther
Rikishi - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:03:24 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5849306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're a fair game
Beth Phoenix - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:52:33 EST ID:0Pi2Veoj No.5849317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
going to be 10-15m late for luchatube its still happening
Marco Corleone - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:32:55 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5849403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>not 'No Mas(k) Edition
Bertha Faye - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:33:53 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5850584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sumire Natsu will be featured on Lucha World Cup again.

All the cherry blossoms at Yasukuni shrine and Gran Apache (wherever he is) are smiling brightly.
Otto Schwanz - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:48:34 EST ID:R0PbdJmS No.5850598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was kinda sad seeing Wagner being unmasked by some rubber mask clown, but he looks like such a badass everytime I see him now, it's just too fitting.
Steve The Turtle Weiner - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:28:54 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5850752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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fuck yeah my LA Park hat came in
League Manager Y2YAY !fKufr32NAI - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:43:33 EST ID:epfe0UIz No.5850763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That's fucking badass man
Melina - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:56:50 EST ID:84i+cY+4 No.5850774 Ignore Report Quick Reply

where 2 cop
Steve The Turtle Weiner - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:36:04 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5850801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got it off ebay
Super Hentai - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:58:37 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5850821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Highspots makes some. But neither that one or the Penta one I got are in stock.
Tank - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 03:44:24 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5851114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jeff Hardy - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:11:53 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5851250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I got my Atlantis hat from them. Tried to get a Dr Wagner jr one, but they were sold out and hadn't updated the site. Too bad I'm not into El Generico, the hat they've got for him looks good.

I mostly get mine from ebay.

This was the first time I'd seen an LA Park one. Only seen a couple of La Parka (AAA) style ones up until then.

I'm a little surprised Penta isn't selling some 0M version hats himself.

Jeff Hardy - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:30:48 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5851253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cubsfan says AAA is livestreaming tonight's show for charity stuff, maybe more amazing shit AAA English commentary

>AAA has it’s annual Ring and Rock Stars TV taping from Hard Rock Riviera Maya tonight. They’ve decided to air it live on Twitch to raise money for earthquake victims. All the revenue from the show (probably the ads, not sure if they’ll have the bit tips set up) will be donated to Save the Children Mexico. The show is scheduled to start at 8pm CT (but it’s a TV taping, so probably later than that.) They have it as two hours long but I figure it’ll be longer. I am told the plan is for the event to stream both on AAA’s main channel and English language channel, and there’s an effort to find some English language announcers to call the show for that feed. (I do not know who they will be and it may not happen since this is all coming together last minute.)
Azreal - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:38:18 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5851258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> All the revenue from the show will be donated to Save the Children Mexico.

so whats going to be their carny bullshit reason for not donating a single cent to earthquake victims?
Jeff Hardy - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:45:27 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5851262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Such negativity in the face of Marty leading the Traitor Clowns into a bold new age of clown? Tsk tsk.

I predict they don't set the donating thing up correctly and the button simply doesn't work.

I do notice that cubsfan doesn't specify that his donating will be done through the AAA end of it.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:24:43 EST ID:N2m5nVef No.5851285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We already have CZW Down with the Sickness scheduled tonight but we can show this in wooo2 (Spanish) and woooalt (English).
Ortvatistadon - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:11:31 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5851414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Really what?
Chris Masters - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 16:13:39 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.5851472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, he is. He's growing into his Brazo-ness.
Tank - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 16:16:34 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5851475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mistweet on his part probably, I just thought it was mildly funny.
Jorge Skayde Rivera - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:47:13 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5851860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So did anyone in the lucha world fucking die or get injured in the earthquakes?
Jorge Skayde Rivera - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:49:03 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5851862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Like I was about to ask if some horrible lucha things happened while I wasn't paying attention and this post-Triplemania season looked to be largely tragedy-free except for the Sexy Star shit, but then I remembered earthquakes.
Octagón - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:16:21 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5852132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
iirc Rey Celestial (ex AAA guy from a bit back) died after getting hit by a car, but otherwise it's been uneventful on the lucha side of things
Penta/Fenix dipped on some shows to be with family back home, but afaik nobody got earthquaked.
Razor Ramon HG - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:10:58 EST ID:k8i4LT35 No.5854306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Monster Clown wore that mask in a truck outside in the sun. That's crazy.
Razor Ramon HG - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:11:52 EST ID:k8i4LT35 No.5854307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Marty The Shaman Martinez
Razor Ramon HG - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:13:17 EST ID:k8i4LT35 No.5854308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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noted humanitarian Murder Clown
Reno - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:28:26 EST ID:n4gnHbu3 No.5855236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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this sounds dank af

has Sam Adonis worked with LA Park before?
Kane - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:04:53 EST ID:HBEQwCrS No.5855266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Free tacos and beer
man lucha is pretty cool man
Luther Reigns - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:35:36 EST ID:r9cBscMh No.5855304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Free tacos and beer, man
They know what the fuck is up
Jonathan Coachman - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:11:05 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5855323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would go to so many more wrassle shows if they promised free tacos and beer
Tomko - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:30:56 EST ID:84i+cY+4 No.5855332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think the tacos and beer is free, lads. The event is, but they expect to make their money back in food and drinks
Sean O'Haire - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:33:27 EST ID:Gwn0Zhld No.5855335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nah, they expect to make it back in artisan eco-friendly shoes. either that, or the owner of jack the fifth is a big LA Park mark (and who can blame him)
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:55:51 EST ID:EoCpb/Y6 No.5855413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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SHLAK is the new DTU World Champion and is bringing the title back to GCW.

cubsfan said that not only are they planning on 10K fans, but they're running 15-20 shows next year and getting TV. Seems like a cool deal.
John Zandig - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:31:06 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.5855437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, that's what the promotion claims but it may not have much to do with real life.
Cubsfan suggests anybody working that show get paid up front
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:13:52 EST ID:EoCpb/Y6 No.5855471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For all we know, it could just be another 5 Star Wrestling
Carlos Cabrera - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 10:58:26 EST ID:CNFU9aJH No.5856842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What are some masks that match this color scheme?

I plan on doing "suit luchador" as my halloween costume at work, and wanted to try for a mask that matched the company colors
Akeem - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:10:13 EST ID:na0rgITl No.5856848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
after a quick look angel de oro is a decent bet has some black - trim designs, no idea if where you live you'll find one like that. he is a currently working, modestly over tecnico so that may help.

mistico and or caristico too although i'd think the most popular masks you'd find at a a flea market stall or whatever are overwhelming he white w gold trim, no black
Carlos Cabrera - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:12:29 EST ID:CNFU9aJH No.5856850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm just going to hit ebay. There's a markup on fanmasks but it's soooooooo fucking easy
Player Dos - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:13:05 EST ID:PvQK3MJK No.5856851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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prince puma's original mask
Matt Classic
you can also get most of the big names in any colorway - LA PARK, Dr. Wagner Jr, Rey, Dos Cara, Mil Mascaras, los brazos, etc...

"business luchador" truly is the classiest dress code, btw
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:28:19 EST ID:10kBJS03 No.5857439 Report Quick Reply
>AAA held a press conference to finally announce the Lucha World Cup. The show is 11 days away and AAA had been weird about not mentioning it until now (or the LU themed show beforehand.) They quickly introduced the two-person team concept and listed all the teams.

1: Mexico (AAA): Psycho Clown & Pagano
2: Mexico (LU): Drago & Aerostar
3: USA (NOAH): Cody Hall & Quiet Storm
4: USA (LU): Marty "The Moth" Martinez & Son of Havoc
5: Japan (NOAH): Taiji Ishimori & HI69
6: Japan (IGF): NOSAWA & Kendo Kashin
7: Rest of the Word (LU): Vampiro & Mil Muertes
8: USA (Impact) DJZ & Andrew Everett

>Other matches for 10/10

*King Cuerno vs Angelico
*Danny Jones, Diego, Sumrise Natsu vs. Taylor Adams, Rekka, and Heidi Katrina

>The show will air on SamuraiTV a week later, and Dorian talked about the show airing in Mexico in some way. No matches were announced for 10/09. I suspect that’s coming soon, though that’s only airing as highlights so we may never seen it either way. It’d be good Twitch content if they could get it, but there was no sign of that happening.
Jackie Gayda - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 03:21:06 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5857567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So what are the newest Lucha Undeground news? People talking like this is the last season is bullshit right just like how people talk like TNA is gonna die every damn year?
A.J. Styles - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 04:05:16 EST ID:iaYPyzC6 No.5857577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is Wagner the biggest DILF in Wrestling now?
How much longer before Paige ditches bertie for him?
Peter Maivia - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:22:28 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5857700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ehhh... this is a different situation.

The newest news is: they have not gotten funding for season 4. Season 3 is ending in a matter of weeks. Season 3 wrapped filming in late 2015/early 2016? I don't know the actual date, but its been at least a full calendar year since the talent was booked to work a LU taping.

They made it to 100 episodes which makes them eligible to sell the show in syndication. Meltz has reported that that's been the only real feasible goal they achieved. They can sell the show in reruns and make money back that way.

Producers put up the money to tape seasons 2 & 3 themselves, but it seemed like that was it. They weren't going to put up anymore of their own money and if it was going to continue, they never would outside sources of revenue to fund it ... and those never came in.

Seasons 1 and 2 did finally get picked up on Netflix (but only the US, Canada and Latin America). And the eps are also on iTunes.
They lost their deal for the Fight Network in Canada I believe, but still air on a smaller spanish-language channel up north.
They lost their TV deal in Mexico after season 1 and that was a big boost for them.
They did get deals to air in Germany, Japan & India-- and Meltz has said that technically they are now the 3rd most widely available wrestling show in the world, behind only Impact and WWE.

The merch deals never came in.
The live events never came outside of a SXSW show and a few Cricket Wireless sponsored events at Southwest-based state fairs.
Rey Mysterio is gone and a lot of the pop culture opportunities he was sold on -- like a potential movie -- never came to fruition.
Prince Puma has been actively throwing a tantrum for months that he wants out of his contract, which operates like this: 90 day no-compete after the final episode airs.
Matanza is tweeting that the rest of his year is open for indie bookings, so he's not being contacted by producers about new tapings.
The AAA talents that didn't quit to join Konnan in The Crash -- like Johnny Mundo, Fantasma, Texano and Drago -- seem to be finding a lifeboat in the Impact crossover.
This upcoming Lucha World Cup in Japan is the only new thing with LU on the horizon, but it's mostly a chance for AAA talents to work under their LU gimmicks (LU does air on Samurai TV I think so there's more marketability with those gimmicks)

The American indie guys -- like Cage, Matt Cross and Joey Ryan -- will probably be looking for a new gig soon, most likely Impact or ROH. Ricochet is basically signed, sealed and delivered for NXT as soon as possible.
Peter Maivia - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 09:23:27 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5857701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>they never would outside sources of revenue to fund it ... and those never came in.

that was supposed to say:

"they would need outside sources of revenue to fund it ... and those never came in."
Kazarian - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:33:44 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5857731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here's a match.
Xavier Woods - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 11:26:53 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5857759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the fact that the current season ends in like 3 weeks and no one involved has any idea when or if they're filming again is not a great sign
Seth Rollins - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 11:40:46 EST ID:7w7yxIpD No.5857770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The current season was filmed in last year's Summer
Xavier Woods - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 11:41:27 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.5857772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
like I said, not a great sign
Brodie Lee - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 11:47:13 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5857779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I loved LU but I would be really surprised if it keeps going.

I wonder what the "no AAA on USA tv" part of the LU deal says about early death of the show.
Hikari Minami - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:28:15 EST ID:CIIunE+5 No.5857803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
AAA and LU conditions to each other just seemed to constantly under-cut themselves. LU couldn't make merchandise based on AAA wrestlers either.
Droz - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:32:09 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5857806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hell of war episode
Ken Patera - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:34:21 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5857807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's beyond stupid when they share several guys. Wouldn't more TV exposure for the talent be better for everyone?

Glad Drago and HDF got some exposure on Impact.
Gail Kim - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:55:20 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5857909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As far as business goes, Lucha Underground and AAA are separate entities. Non-AAA investors likely insisted on a non-compete agreement. Sure, at this point it's reasonable to think that any exposure is good exposure, but back then there was no way to know how big LU would become, so it made sense to include some provision to prevent AAA from savaging Lucha Underground business in the US.

In my opinion, Lucha Underground could've made a lot more money if they hadn't tied themselves to a dying medium, and even worse a channel that doesn't reach 90% of potential viewers. But wrestling has been all about TV for so long that most people can't see beyond TV, even as it's not the magical cornucopia of unlimited money anymore.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 16:21:53 EST ID:EoCpb/Y6 No.5857918 Report Quick Reply
>Heroes Inmortales is this Sunday. It does not appear to be streaming. AAA clearly told the announcers to push the idea of the show airing on Twitch, so something happened (or didn’t happen) this week. It will turn up on TV starting about two weeks from now.

>AAA Japan announced a bunch of matches for the 10/09 Lucha Underground show in Tokyo, prior to the World Cup

*Vampiro vs Mil Muertes
*Drago vs King Cuerno
*Aerostar vs Marty Martinez
*Psycho Clown & Pagano vs Nosawa & Minoru Fujita (or maybe Masada)
*Son of Havoc & Angelico vs Ishimori & Masamune
Bastion Booger - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 17:04:44 EST ID:nqhGDDGx No.5857951 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's not like Internet streaming is any better as a revenue source, though.
Gail Kim - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 17:15:33 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5857956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They did get on iTunes though, and would probably have done a lot better numbers there if there wasn't a free alternative on TV. If it's possible to watch a product on TV for free - even though it doesn't reach most viewers- that's what customers conceptualize it as, so there's less incentive to pay for it.

Now obviously El Rey put down a fair bit of cash for the show, so it may have been impractical to go purely online, but I'm still not convinced of TV as a sustainable source of revenue for non-WWE wrestling in 2017.
Vince McMahon - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 21:15:25 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5859333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
CMLL is back tonight.
A.J. Styles - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 21:31:48 EST ID:6AY0C/h0 No.5859347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yea boyy
I've been sick of seeing god-awful AAA everywhere.
Time for some proper Lucha.
Jamie Knoble - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 22:14:13 EST ID:dwiIxPVN No.5859388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>proper lucha
So a slightly less shitty south of the border botch fest?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:45:53 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5859692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Results for Heroes Inmortales, which we'll show in Lucha Tube in the next few weeks - http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2017/10/02/heroes-inmortales-lucha-memes-cmll-returns-to-puebla/
Primo - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:21:58 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5859770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You have to go back.
RJ Brewer - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:40:48 EST ID:KxLCGS+b No.5859788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
GTFO this thread you ignorant piece of shit
Mark Jindrak - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:44:42 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5859793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Puebla is nothing to get excited about.
Ray Mendoza - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:30:51 EST ID:JGefeBAK No.5860217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Arena Mexico live
The Boogeyman - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 16:53:07 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5861805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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2 Tuff Tony - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 18:22:47 EST ID:HBEQwCrS No.5861860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Tha Juicy Juicy Juice featured too
Ken Shamrock - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:26:48 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.5861893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kinniku Juice~~~~~~
Fuck you!
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:41:41 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5861901 Report Quick Reply
>The bracket was announced for the 10/10 Lucha World Cup:

*Quarterfinal 1: Pagano & Psycho Clown vs Cody Hall & Quiet Storm
*Quarterfinal 2: Mil Muertes & Vampiro vs Nosawa & Kendo Kashin
*Quarterfinal 3: Marty Martinez & Son of Havoc vs Taiji Ishimori & Hi69
*Quarterfinal 4: DJZ & Andrew Everett vs Aerostar & Drago
*Semifinal 1: Quarterfinal 1 vs Quarterfinal 2
*Semifinal 2: Quarterfinal 3 vs Quarterfinal 4
(not sure if they’re doing a Third Place game)

>They’ve also changed the tiebreaker format. These matches still have a 10 minute time limit. If there’s no winner, then each side picks one person for a 3 minute tie breaker match. (That’s changed from 5.) If there’s still no winner, then the other two people wrestle. This part is how they’ve done it the last two years, with the idea that they would cycle back around to first group of people if there was still no decision. It never got that far, but that was the idea. This time, if there’s still no finish, they’ll have a judging panel decide the winner. The judges are Dorian Roldan, Gran Hamada, Tatsumi Fujinami, Tsutomu Shimizu (Dr. Lucha) and Scott D’Amore.

>Pagano & Psycho Clown are the favorites. Taiji Ishimori & Hi69 is the team that has the best chance of upsetting as the home country team. Ishimori, Psycho and Mil Muertes (under two names) are the only people to be in all three of these matches. Mexico & USA have won, but Japan has never reached the final.

>Again, this show will air on SamuraiTV later in October, and probably will air on AAA TV in early November. There was a belief this show would air live on Twitch at one point, but there’s been no official mention of that and it now seems unlikely to occur. There will be a press conference to introduce the Mexican contingent on Saturday.

There's also a Challonge bracket for the tournament if anyone wants to pick - http://challonge.com/luchaworldcup2017/predictions
Worker Ant - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:55:51 EST ID:WNistLuH No.5861915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Cody Hall

I was wondering if he was ever going to resurface after whichever Buck teamkilled him to death. Nice to see he's staying the course and grinding it out elsewhere in the world before he goes and takes the spot Uncle Hunter doubtlessly has waiting for him.
M-Dogg 20 - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 20:00:29 EST ID:hby4rwiv No.5861919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>*Quarterfinal 2: Mil Muertes & Vampiro vs Nosawa & Kendo Kashin

Between this and Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Jinder Mahal, someone's TEW save has lost its fucking mind.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 19:31:41 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5862569 Report Quick Reply
Here's the results from The Crash's TV pilot - http://thecubsfan.com/cmll/events/shows/00067000/00067977.php

>The show was taped as a TV pilot, probably for the Azteca Mexico network. There were extra cameras set up to shoot the show that hadn’t been there past shows. Hugo [Savinovich] might fit into that, since he’d be an obvious pick to be an announcer. There’s no info on when/if it would air.

>Also during the show, they announced an upcoming retirement match but people on social media were confused as to who it was retiring. The Crash’s Facebook recap doesn’t mention it all, Jorge CRR thought it was a Nicho retirement, and 126F thought it was a Konnan retirement match. That last choice would make the most sense, and would be a decent idea to get attention for a TV show early on. No date was announced, but they did say it would be Konnan, Nicho and Damian against Pierroth and others (maybe the other Ingobernables.)

>126f suggested the boos in Fenix/Flamita match was because the match was good but not as great as hope (lacking some intensity) and the fans were tired by that point and wanted to see the main event. The usual late Tijuana start time is a bigger obstacle on a Thursday than a Saturday.
Kamala - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 20:29:44 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5862604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if Savinovich was in I wonder what that would mean for his Kissimmee-based shindy league.
Seriously if The Crash started doing shows out of Kissimmee with bizzaro PR-heavy booking where Mr Mecha Wolf 450 fights the evil Mexicans or some shit that would be too fucking funny.
Blackjack Mulligan - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 11:29:22 EST ID:gpGJz9ga No.5864545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the holy family can oversee your scratch off ticket and bless you with good fortune
Bo Rotundo - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 12:48:15 EST ID:ztzOjTTA No.5864586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd rather have the scratch off with Fantasma, Wagner, and Psycho, thanks.

Speaking of, does that ticket have Wagner before or after he lost the mask?
Bo Dupp - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 14:21:11 EST ID:/15XuLO5 No.5864641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Electroshock - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:27:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5865468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:58:43 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5865491 Report Quick Reply
And compare that to Star Battle last year, which drew 1619. Also here's the results from the show the day before at Shinkiba 1st Ring, which drew 290:

1) Aerostar b Marty The Moth
2) Angélico & Son of Havoc b Masamune & Taiji Ishimori
Son of Havoc pinned Masamune
3) Pagano & Psycho Clown b Minoru Fujita & Nosawa
4) King Cuerno b Drago
5) Vampiro NC Mil Muertes
Nosawa ran in and attacked both men, leading to no finish.

While the full results for the Lucha Libre World Cup aren't out as far as I can tell, the winners of the tournament are Psycho Clown and Pagano
La Parka - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:12:22 EST ID:qRxfN1Ga No.5865586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Vampiro NC Mil Muertes
>Nosawa ran in and attacked both men, leading to no finish.
Jesus why
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:37:51 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5866150 Report Quick Reply
Here's the full results from the Lucha Libre World Cup:

Pagano & Psycho Clown b Cody Hall & Quiet Storm [Lucha World Cup, quarterfinal] 9:08. Psycho Clown beat Cody Hall via diving headbutt.

Mil Muertes & Vampiro DQ Kendo Kashin & Nosawa [Lucha World Cup, quarterfinal] 6:09. Nosawa framed Vampiro for hitting Piero with a chair. Vampiro attacked the referee and chokeslammed a (AJPW???) trainee.

Marty Martinez & Son of Havoc b Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori [Lucha World Cup, quarterfinal] 8:11. Ishimori blocked a SSP to set up the win. Son of Havoc won best dive in this match.

Andrew Everett & DJZ b Aerostar & Drago [Lucha World Cup, quarterfinal] 7:51. Everett beat Drago with a 630 splash. This match was awarded best match.

Heidi Katrina, Recca, Taylor Adams b Danny Jones, Diego, Sumire Natasu 13:42. Katrina beat Natasu.

Pagano & Psycho Clown b Kendo Kashin & Nosawa [Lucha World Cup, semifinal] 5:14. Referee was taken out and Nosawa fouled Psycho. Vampiro inteferred to hit Nosawa with a chair to set up Psycho’s win.

Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori b Andrew Everett & DJZ [Lucha World Cup, semifinal] Went to a time limit (10 minute.) Ishmori defeated DJZ in 2:11 of the overtime period.

King Cuerno b Angélico 11:08 via Thrill of the Hunt.

Pagano & Psycho Clown b Hi69 & Taiji Ishimori [Lucha World Cup, final] 6:38. Psycho beat Hi69 with a Canadian Destroyer. Taiji Ishimori, who has been in the tournament every year, won the best wrestler award.

>This will air on SamuraiTV next Tuesday and should turn up on AAA TV sometime in the next month.

>It appeared AAA used the same belt as last year since the logos on it were for that year’s teams (TNA, the women’s groups.) Mexican boxing champion Tomoki Kameda presented it to Pagano & Psycho. AAA posted a video of them celebrating their win.

Taiji Ishimori said he was surprised to win the best wrestler award, though disappointed to again get so close to winning the competition and coming up short. Ishimori went out in round 1 in 2015, the semifinals last year, and the finals this year. Maybe next year is his year. DJZ/Everrett vs Aerostar/Drago was the best match, and Son of Havoc won an award that’s usually best dive but appears to be Best High Flyer this time around.

>That reported attendance is about half what AAA did last year for their Star Battle show. The photos make it look worse; the bleachers are not even one-third full. Maybe the other side was more full. Last year’s show had Rey Mysterio and Pentagon Jr., this year’s did not because of the choices AAA made. If you want a much more harsh way of looking at it, it’s minuscule to what AAA’s been able to draw with this event in Mexico. This is a sponsor (Victoria) funded event and it seems like they ran in Japan because that’s what the sponsor wanted. If they’re happy wiht the turnout, then there’s no problem with it.

It's AAA booking probably, what did you expect?
Milano Collection A.T. - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:43:09 EST ID:VkACMea8 No.5866152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>AAA books their own team to win a fucking gain
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 10:56:39 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5866463 Report Quick Reply
Ishimori and Hi69 is who I had predicted to win but I guess maybe it leaves open the possibility of a Japanese team winning next year.
Vin Gerard - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 10:58:39 EST ID:LOMQdsDd No.5866466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Vampiro booking himself to not job on either night is way better imo
Nigel McGuinness - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 11:56:44 EST ID:XkcP9T0O No.5867262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
from the dirtsheet thread
>The reason AAA lost its television in the U.K. on Frontrunner was due to an issue with a show broadcast on 7/5. The U.K. has much stricter rules on what can air on television prior to 9 p.m.. Frontrunner TV was airing AAA at 7 p.m. and the show had a match with Pagano vs. Psycho Clown, which, according to a report published by OFCOM (the country’s television regulatory board) regarding complaints and sanctions in recent months, listed the show. Ofcom reported the show contained several instances of violence, blood and the use of weapons. Listed were Pagano tying barbed wire around Psycho’s face after his mask was ripped, Pagano hitting him in the head, already bloodied, with a chair, Pagano wrapping barbed wire around Psycho’s arm and two chair shots to the barbed wire digging it into the arm and showing close up footage of the bloodied up arm. Psycho also used the barbed wire around his arm to clothesline Pagano in the face. Psycho also used a fork into the arm leading to Pagano being covered with blood. Psycho then wrapped his body with barbed wire and splashed onto Pagano. They also both took a bump through a table covered in thumbtacks. Pagano also took a bump into a table that was on fire. Frontrunner TV acknowledged that the show should not have aired in that time slot, and that they were no longer airing the program.
>putting a Pagano match on 7pm basic cable
Sakura Emi - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:21:58 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5867967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>With LU soon on the way out, I bit the bullet and finally added Guadalajara to the listings. Locally, it airs first on Thursdays nights, but that channel doesn’t have a YouTube feed. The Saturday 10pm airing is airing on this feed, though my sense is it’s a screw up and supposed to blacked out from the internet. Televisa attempts to block all which aren’t locally produced by the station from airing on YouTube, to avoid getting in trouble with YouTube (for copyright violations) or the TV shows themselves (who may have not given them the right to air it on the internet.) I don’t think CMLL Guadalajara or AAA really cares if they air, but it seems to be a blanket policy. It’s also a poorly administered policy, with those shows and others slipping thru when the schedule isn’t lined up correctly.
So what's this? AAA b show?
The Jackyl - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:33:39 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.5867975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>La Parka AAA vs Dave the Clown
Tomoka Nakagawa - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:48:19 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5867991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, Dave has been freaking out over that match on Twitter for weeks now

(shitty follow btw, stay away)
Sakura Emi - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:04:08 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5868002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dave the Clown has a twitter?
Tomoka Nakagawa - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:06:51 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5868006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sakura Emi - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:14:34 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5868014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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it's been a strange journey from Dave being That Indy Clown Who Jumped The Rail to That Indy Clown Who Was In Psycho's Entrance to That Indy Clown Who Isn't Pagano
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:39:36 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5868149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What a random ass lucha libre show in Idaho of all places - http://luchalive.com/

Yeah probably. I'm surprised how many weekly lucha shows cubsfan is able to record and upload.
Ortvatistadon - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 23:37:56 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5868333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
CMLL Leyenda de Plata was a seeding battle royal for determining the teams, and a cibernetico after that. Match was good, I'd definitely recommend watching it. The finish... the less said about it, the better.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:56:48 EST ID:iJLgCeYP No.5869902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
CMLL is reactivating the Mexican National Heavyweight Championship, which was last held by Hector Garza in 2013, with the winner of the Torneo Cibernetico between Rush, Shocker, Terrible, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Gran Guerrero, Blue Panther Jr., Euforia, Vangellys, Kráneo, Pierroth, and Cuatrero on October 22 in Arena Mexico being crowned the new champion.
Ron Harris - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:30:44 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5869919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Fine and educated hobby that always accompanies me in this madness to become a great columnist of the most beautiful sport in the world, wrestling: how do you say that you are going? Here the one who writes to them is a little out of tune with the new generations of fighters who think that the first ones of change can be put with Samson to the kicks. Such is the case of Dave The Clown, who at first feels very machin, declaring the war, through their social networks telling me that they have just informed him that we will soon face each other in the ring and ... what he's going to withdraw!
Ron Harris - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:32:14 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5869921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Ha ha ha ha ha ha! forgive me the laughter, but if I tell you how many rivals - from novices to great legends - have told me the same and here I am, I would not reach the pages of the beloved RECORD newspaper.
>Clarity, I'm always a defender of people who are pushing hard in the ring, precursor to forming new wrestling figures, but I think there are ways to start a rivalry, one of them face to face. I say, because through social networks it seems that it is only a gossip; so I'm going to let Dave Clown know that I'm waiting for him at a time and place that he likes to see us in the face, rather, the masks, and to show which leather comes more straps. I already said!
Ron Harris - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:35:18 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5869927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>And speaking of rivalries that end up being a great combination of talents, we have nothing more and nothing less than the talented Psycho Clown and Pagano, who were brought to Mexico the World Wrestling Championship World Cup Japan 2017.
>Without a doubt a great sporting achievement that falls as a ring finger in the spirit of the entire race after the painful moments we have all lived with the earthquake of last September 19. Definitely an excellent way to show that the union is strong in any terrain where we stand, because it is no use to want to win each other if we go behind a common goal. So congratulations to my colleagues who showed that ... without clowns there is no party!
Ron Harris - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:36:44 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5869928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Drago and Aerostar also made theirs in the 'Land of the Rising Sun', winning the recognition of the judges of Wrestling World Cup Japan 2017, for having executed the best fight of that event.
>Two Mexicans who have worked hard to win the applause of their own and strangers internationally, and to occupy a prominent place in the roster of AAA Worldwide, under the supervision of Dorian Roldán, who must feel very proud of the results obtained in so important fair international. Iuuuuuuu! Congratulations, patron!
>Morrillas and batillos I ran out of space, but as always I sent a big hug accompanied by the promise that we read the incoming week with much more of the best fight in the world. Remember, I am serene, but with the fight I free myself. Until next time!
X-Pac - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:47:10 EST ID:6vfe4AKm No.5869937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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are those pictures of la parka or la park? who is feuding with DAVE THE CLOWN?
Extreme Tiger - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:49:09 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5869939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
aaa parka. coming to a aaa house show near you soon
Charly Malice - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:55:18 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5869972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>making a 2017 catchup playlist with cubsfan's videos
>notice that Arena Mexico shows suddenly disappear
Did CMLL finally tell him to stop uploading their shit?
Ron Harris - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 17:13:00 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5869984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think LA Park and Dave have been in a match together.
pretty sure he stopped when CMLL started putting it up themselves
Charly Malice - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 17:55:30 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5870011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
...Well indeed they did.
Apologies for retardation.
Earl Hebner - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:54:41 EST ID:d/S9mRsn No.5870624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Anybody know anything about buying from Mercado Libre if you're in the USA?

That Sombra hat is dank af.
Adam Bomb - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:20:52 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5870817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Might be the most aesthetically unappealing look in wrestling.
Gordon Solie - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 20:33:11 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5871006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yay Tuesday Arena Mexico https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFqIgb3LV7I
Chris Masters - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 20:48:02 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5871018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Look at this guy with his shitty opinions on women's wrestling. Bet he's never even had to lower his standards to 40 year old Mexican moms because he can't get a date his age.
Hollywood - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:45:45 EST ID:F0cLN2j7 No.5871503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Gordon Solie - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:33:24 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5871569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the stars are aligning to make it possible for the last member of Park, Park & Park: Attorneys at Law to finally appear in the Impact Zone
Trent Acid - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:54:14 EST ID:k8i4LT35 No.5872025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>FANTASTICAMANIA 2018 TECNICOS. Atlantis, Místico, Volador Jr., Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Ángel de Oro, Soberano Jr., Fuego, Drone, Star Jr., Rush
>FANTASTICAMANIA RUDOS: Último Guerrero, Negro Casas, Gran Guerrero, Bárbaro Cavernario, Sansón, Cuatrero, Okumura, Puma, Disturbio.

did I miss previous stuff or is this the first word on Atlantis back in the ring?
Jamilia Craft - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:37:54 EST ID:M368Zyzu No.5872049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Team of Joseph Park and LA Park
We could only be so lucky
Player Dos - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:39:28 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5872087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>based Disturbio finally makes it to Japan

I am 100% on board with this.
Vinnie Vegas - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:52:33 EST ID:UuI/qnlD No.5872240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lovin Greg's creepy Internet dude face here
Robbie E - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:55:37 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5872243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ken Doane - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 18:33:01 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5872314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so yeah apparently this is the start of word of Atlantis's return

I wonder where this was going to be photoshopped to be at until they found out Atlantis isn't very good at recording himself.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 02:35:03 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5872534 Report Quick Reply
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Can’t wait for more Naito and Rush tranquilo spots. And I’m glad Fuego, Negro Casas and Dragon Les are on the tour.
Lanny Poffo - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:07:44 EST ID:k+ptwGJ7 No.5872572 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Shame there isn't a full Peste Negra trio going over (though I can see why they wouldn't take Felino or Niebla), there should be a lot of fun matches though.
Abraham Washington - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:33:54 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5872575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
NJPW doesn't care about trios matches anyway, let's be honest. Considering only Sanson and Cuatrero are coming over too, I assume they want to run some straight tag matches?
Linda McMahon - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:31:31 EST ID:HJYS63ft No.5872648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Major DeBeers - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:47:20 EST ID:Y31Pt+kQ No.5872690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's acutally making me hopeful for a serious 1v1 match for Casas against some big NJPW name.
USApe - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 23:55:40 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5873431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Leyenda de Plata final is a typical Volador trash match. Watch the Nuevos Dinamitas trios on that show instead.

Probably Liger, like with Virus last (?) year.
Owen Hart - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:17:27 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5874057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watched the LU finale. Who was spooking Sexy Star with spiders again? I thought it got resolved but can't for the life of me remember.

Googling it gives me Sexy Star vs Rosemary news & matches so I can only assume it was a cross-promotional thing for their AAA match.
Anthony Nese - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:22:53 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.5874061 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Anthony Nese - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:25:01 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.5874065 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But I think Mariposa said it wasn't her. I don't remember to be perfectly honest.
Chri - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 19:41:56 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5874132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the cams are starting to come in for Dave / Parka (AAA) footage!
Doug Basham - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 22:48:32 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5874226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah I think you're right. IIRC Sexy got in Mariposa's face about it and she was all like "bitch what the fuck I do?"
Suwama - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:54:17 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5876336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Digging this shindy card
Drew Carey - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:23:20 EST ID:Z680UE6J No.5879339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:44:37 EST ID:LSwIgLIR No.5879355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who are those lightning bolt mask guys in the bottom right?
Brooke Tessmacher - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:47:20 EST ID:+KzeeAH2 No.5879396 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Their names are Thunder and Lightning. They're Puerto Ricans.
Sable - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:13:04 EST ID:VOIUVw1m No.5879415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nice to see Dirty Dutch is keeping busy.
Ivan Putski - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:18:51 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5879419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm really curious about Dutch Mantell interacting with some of the AAA roster and a pile of PRs
Tony Garea - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:03:48 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5880307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I didn't see the tube general thread so I guess I'll throw it here:

With CMLL back to reliably doing their live stuff on Monday and Tuesdays any chance it could go on the spare tubes when there isn't something else?
Mia Yim - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 11:47:50 EST ID:5zKcKjWY No.5880999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dutch was a booker in Puerto Rico for years prior to his recent WWE run. Zeb Colter is just a character.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 13:30:45 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5881170 Report Quick Reply
I tried showing them in /wooo/tube 2 but there’s not much demand to watch especially when it’s up against Raw and SmackDown at the same time. If someone wants to make the threads and post the links for the shows in there themselves, then I’m happy to mod someone in there to do that.
Drew McIntyre - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:12:32 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5881619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So you're saying he's on the flyer to promote the idea that he's booking it, and not because he'll be appearing in front of the crowd interacting with the other characters?
Drew McIntyre - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:20:38 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5881693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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As much as I like the idea of helping people be aware that they can still get Monday and Tuesday live bloodless repetitive prowrestling with booking that at best approaches incoherence without needing WWE, I barely managed to copy and paste it over to my own tube when I was trtying it for a while lol.
I guess I can't be pissy about somebody else not being interested either.
nb for 2xpost
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 23:54:03 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5882873 Report Quick Reply
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Terrible is your new Mexican National Heavyweight Champion.

If it didn’t conflict with Raw and SmackDown, we’d show it in woootube. Same with the Friday shows if they actually did them live on Youtube. Otherwise we’ve got Lucha Tube and the occasional AAA and CMLL IPPVs.
Will o' The Wisp - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 01:24:41 EST ID:K51KTIIo No.5882902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can someone link me that Lucha Shoot Style Match where the luchadores used nun-chakus and ninja weapons? It was a pretty shit indy show, but the match was very interesting.
Bull Buchanan - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:14:47 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5884205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is there a particular reason Park is wearing his Parka gear? Does he often do that and I just never noticed?
Jeremy Borash - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 01:34:38 EST ID:CEkMnbI6 No.5884329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
damn this is cmll's 24th belt.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 11:00:01 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5884514 Report Quick Reply
Esfinge and Ray Cometa will be making their ROH debuts on the first two nights of Survival of the Fittest 2017 - http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/two-cmll-stars-make-their-roh-debuts-survival-fittest-tour
Cheex - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 12:25:36 EST ID:wM28tZrm No.5884554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess if I ran CMLL I'd want him somewhere else too lol
Stevie Ray - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 21:33:35 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5884945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm getting caught up on Heroes Inmortales.
I'm glad to see that Marty is keeping the magic shaman towel that gives buffs to his party members
Bull Nanako - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 21:25:22 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5885718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh shit they swapped Mistico II for CaryzDisease 3.2 for Windows
Ring Ryda Blue - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:39:47 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5886655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For the life of me I can't remember the name of that shoot-style no-ring lucha promotion where actual pre-teen children wrestled. Anyone willing to help?
Paul Roma - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 13:08:53 EST ID:HE4ERGuF No.5886908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:16:45 EST ID:HXjF1IpI No.5887225 Report Quick Reply
Got the CMLL Sunday show on now - http://taima.tv/r/wooo2
Al Snow - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:49:58 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5887256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
David Otunga - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 10:00:25 EST ID:M368Zyzu No.5887710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kamaitachi has returned
Ed Ferrara - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 10:39:17 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5887726 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I hope they face la peste negra.
7ven - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 18:06:00 EST ID:XyJuERVr No.5888047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So Volador Jr. appeared for The Crash to attack Penta 0M. Right now I'm wondering whether it's just a way for Volador to get LA Park into the promotion, but I couldn't be happier if he fucked off forever and had his 30% matches in Tijuana instead of Arena Mexico.

Side note, the Rey del Inframundo match was a lot of fun, which isn't that surprising when you have Hechicero and the new Dinamitas teaming up.
Triple H - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 21:53:58 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5888292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Arena Puebla is imminent!
Rachel Summerlyn - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:40:26 EST ID:dPMPIxkm No.5888619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rachel Summerlyn - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:41:58 EST ID:dPMPIxkm No.5888622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rachel Summerlyn - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:43:48 EST ID:dPMPIxkm No.5888627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rachel Summerlyn - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:44:57 EST ID:dPMPIxkm No.5888628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Billy Gunn - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:00:11 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5892257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:14:58 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5892976 Report Quick Reply
Here's some CMLL news:

>Shocker was brought to the police station for questioning Wednesday night in Mexico City. He’s been accused of violence towards a sex worker, and for destroying the hotel room he was staying. The hotel has said Shocker caused 30,000 pesos (~$1,500 of damage.) Shocker’s not been officially charged yet; Mexican police can hold him for 48 while they investigate and that’s where they’re at now. A brief story about the arrest is on pretty much every news site in Mexico, as much for Shocker’s brief reality appearances as his wrestling.

>Shocker was currently listed as working on Friday & Saturday’s CMLL show. I’d imagine he’ll be removed, but that’s no guarantee. He’s one half of the CMLL Tag Team champions, a reign that’s seemingly only gone on this long because one or the other has gotten injured and CMLL hasn’t wanted to just strip them of the titles. (CMLL keeps trying to set up Stuka & Diamante Azul to at least challenge for the tag titles, maybe even win them, since September, but things keep happening.) Shocker’s publicly talked about his issues with alcoholism and appeared to have quietly been suspended by CMLL for showing up in no condition to perform in the past. CMLL sees value in Shocker because he’s a very recognizable star, overlooking his dramatic decline in the ring after many knee injuries. I would not be surprised if they overlooked this as well.

>CMLL announced a Legend’s show for next Friday. No matches are yet announced, but the named participants include Solar, Mano Negra, Super Astro, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Cien Caras, Super Pinocho, Super Muneco, Satanico, Octagon, Canek, Fuerza Guerrera, Dos Caras, Black Terry and Negro Navarro. That last name is interesting, because Negro Navarro hasn’t been in a match since the end of July. He seconded Zeuxis, but hadn’t been seen much. It’s believed he suffered a heart attack, and this would probably be his first match back.

>Atlantis will not be back in time. He does not yet have a return date. (I think I had it backwards on audio?) Atlantis was honored at Hipodromo de las Americas, a horse racing track.

>CMLL also announced the bodybuilding contest will take place on 11/29, hyping the participation of Astral, Drone, Esfinge and Dalys.
Sunny - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:19:43 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5892980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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how many can you name?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 05:56:11 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5896075 Report Quick Reply
More on Shocker's arrest and The Crash canceling a show on short notice:

>Shocker was let out of jail after three hours after agreeing to pay 20,000 to a hotel for damages to the room he was staying in. Friends of Shocker say this was an extortion attempt all along and the violence to the sex worker was an attempt to create leverage. Others aren’t sure, and everyone agrees that is he’s dealing with a lot of issues. The women disappearing along the way can be read either as part of the extortion plot or a sex worker deciding it’s not in her best interest to work with the legal system. Shocker is based in Mexico City, so him needing a hotel room for there night says there’s a least something more to this story.

>CMLL appears to have taken no action. I do not believe Shocker was suspended Friday night; I didn’t get the full story, but my impression is Shocker just wasn’t there and CMLL scrambled to find someone as as last second replacement. (That’s why the family vs family rule was broken.) I assume that’s the same thing that happened with his missed show on Puebla. It may mean CMLL believes the story was Shocker being extorted, because everyone had to know about it on Friday. He was listed on Tuesday’s show, though that might have happened by the time you read this.

>Brazo de Plata did an interview talking about Shocker’s issues with alcohol, but also saying hes’ never seen Shocker wrestle drunk. This is treated as a big revelation, but Shocker’s talked about his issues over the years, and it came up in the El Luchador TV series.

>The Crash show on Thursday in Metepec was canceled. It was canceled about an hour after the show was supposed to start, at 8pm. Our group got there around 7:40, with people waiting in line and getting restless. They were doing the meet & greet, though the article notes it was about an hour and half late. Doors opened around 8:30. The show still hadn’t started by 9, but it just seemed like a normal late lucha/Mexico thing. It wasn’t until The Crash personal took their canvas off the ring that it was clear the show was in trouble. The wrestler bus was parked next to the arena at one moment, then gone the next. There was eventually a very brief announcement by, I think, a local lucha commissioner that the show was canceled but most of the people had started filing out by then.

>The Crash quickly put out a statement explaining they were working with a local promoter for this show (the same as is the case for all the non-Tijuana shows), the local promoter did not make good on what he said he would pay The Crash, and the Crash decided to leave. Attendance didn’t seem bad – in the same range of about 800 as in Queretaro a couple nights prior – though the local promotion had said they were hoping to have 3000 for the show and perhaps needed that many to pay the bill. (Tickets were more expensive in Metepec, though costs were definitely higher too – this show was supposed to be Rey Mysterio’s first match in the city in years.)

>The Crash listed Emmanuel Jacome as the local promoter. That’s the given name of luchador Astro (formerly Astro Rey Jr.), who deleted his Facebook account as the show was going. He did not appear to be on the scene when everything went down, and was not the guy at the ticket booth surrounded by angry fans after the show didn’t take place. We were told that situation turned violent sometime after we left, but can’t confirm it. Everyone was supposed to get refunds but it definitely didn’t seem like that was possible that night.

>One positive note: we got to shake hands a person who was later explained to be former luchador Astro de Plata. Astro de Plata was a promising young luchador who briefly wrestled in AAA before suffering a severe neck/spine injury on an indie match which left him briefly paralyzed. He recovered, and came back for one very safe match earlier this year (against Astro, who he’s friends with but not related.) You wouldn’t have known he went thru all that seeing him at that show, he looked like a normal young man. The injury ended his wrestling career but doesn’t seem to have affected the rest of his life, thankfully.
El Santo - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:51:15 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5898062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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El Oriental - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:09:47 EST ID:JVnYm9PE No.5898075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
El Santo, Pentagon, Abismo Negro, Mistico, Mascara Sagrada, Spiderman
El Santo - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:19:34 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5898162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How'd I do?
Rikidozan - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:24:44 EST ID:uphOJ/1G No.5898167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>El Canutillo
Shouldn't that be Alcatraz?
El Santo - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:31:05 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5898170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I spent the past hour trying to find out who that one was to no avail. The sheer speed with which you replied with this information is bittersweet.
El Canutillo is what Google translate gave me for "The Gimp".
Gorilla Monsoon - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:05:18 EST ID:+f/JvFqp No.5898339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I applaud you
Name - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:37:44 EST ID:cl3w6acd No.5898391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>that last mask

Beulah McGillicutty - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:08:26 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5898596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Beulah McGillicutty - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 00:50:13 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5898774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I love how Solar just hung out after his match, got a beer, shook Mano Negra's hand, then flirted with one of the dancers
Andy Leavine - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:11:02 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5900225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anybody got a pic of that Angel de Oro fruit mascot from early in the year? PC shut down before I could save it.
Timothy Well - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:42:22 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5900239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Link me to this match please /lucha/ amigos.
I must know more about this.
Andy Leavine - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:51:29 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5900244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My brother been telling me all month about Bryan's 2nd ever -5 star match but all he can remember from it is that it involved midgets and "Rhaka Khan".
Is this it?
Andy Leavine - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:07:18 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5900250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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nvm found it
Andy Leavine - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:07:58 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5900251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also found a Marco Colada.
Harley Race - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:33:38 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5900288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it was from Lucha Libre USA, so good luck finding that
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:30:07 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5902240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First his restaurant and now this? What's going on with Alberto?

>The Alberto/FULL benefit show did not happen. Fans arrived at the building, Gran Teatro Moliere in Mexico City, to find government signs over the door, saying “activities have been suspended”. That’s the standard message when the Mexico government has closed a building for one reason or another, and not specific. The only statement from the building was a statement that the show was canceled and they’d offer refunds today. No one from the theater was present last night. Gran Teatro Moliere is normally a theater/music venue. The theory is they weren’t approved to host a wrestling event because of lack of security, but it sounds like different sides are giving different explanations and blaming each other.

>Alberto gave an emotional speech to the press, talking about the cancellation. His version is his people came to the building on Saturday, saw the suspended signs, but were assured by the people in charge that it was only a temporary thing. (In another version, Tinieblas says there was actually a show there on Sunday too.) They returned Tuesday to find that not the case. They tried contacted the local Delegacion Miguel Hidalgo government to see if things could be fixed at the last second and were told now. Alberto was angry at that, feeling he was defeated by the corruption that exists in Mexico and suggested he’d run the show in San Antonio where he would be free of those issues. Later, they indicated there would be an announcement Thursday about a new venue and a new date for the show. Alberto told a story about a child who was now an orphan that he met in a restaurant and promised that this show would help him pay for his college education. Alberto showed off special Under Armor t-shirts they had made to raise money at the show. Alberto posted a supportive note on Instagram that started with a quote but also included emojis.

>This goes down as another strange situation with Alberto. In the US, where his scandals have seemed to have more sticking power, people are going to see this as another weird Alberto story. In Mexico, Alberto’s image in Mexico is still strong and enough people have had issues with the government to believe they’re really at fault.
Shaggy 2 Dope - Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:22:46 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5903686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was digging Mistico (2)'s heel styles last night. What's some other examples of him like that?
Monty Brown - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 00:15:37 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5904059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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getting caught up that Dave/Parka (AAA) match was basically the hypest shit ever

Mazinger unrelated
Monty Brown - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:44:02 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5904243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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seriously guys
Ken Patera - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:12:13 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5904540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just got to the 6-man tag where Niebla Roja turns technico. Was there a pre-established reason he snubbed his bois? I noticed him shaking hands with opponents a week or two prior but that don't nearly justify how HARD he turned the Guerreros in like ~5 minutes. Dude looked like a dick. Either I missed something in translation or it was just shoddily booked.
Kodama - Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:30:55 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5905649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
B&V review of that legends six man match

>Dos Caras, El Rayo de Jalisco Jr. & Villano IV against Canek, Cien Caras & Mascara Ano 2000
If you want to be spared, just jump to 18:13 to laugh at Cuatrero during the run in
Kodama - Tue, 28 Nov 2017 09:55:52 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5905665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
*Año 2000
Marshe Rockett - Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:38:40 EST ID:HX6b9MkU No.5906643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Name my stable guys
WrestlingTheSport - Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:45:53 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5906646 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Rampage: World Tour
Ken Shamrock - Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:50:08 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5906648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess this is from today's CMLL bodybuilding contest.
Rate these names from the CMLL school:
>Gato Montes (Cat Montes), Rey Infierno (King Hell), La Mosca (The Fly), Angel del Amor (Angel of Love), Sable, Krock, Star King, Sexy Spartan, Randy Banderas, Brazo Cibernetico (Cybernetic Arm)
Marshe Rockett - Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:53:48 EST ID:HX6b9MkU No.5906652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Randy Banderas
My God.

I've seen Angel de Amor before, he's pretty good. Expect to see him in your Tuesday openers within the next decade.
Ken Shamrock - Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:20:14 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5906668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Didn't think much of his name at first, but now I'm imagining a facemorph of Randy Orton and Antonio Banderas
Heath Slater - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 20:15:00 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5908174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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even if they only do them for the youtube channel I hope they keep doing more English language stuff like this
Heath Slater - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 21:37:48 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5908214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuckyear Friday night CMLL live
Stalker Ichikawa - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 09:18:38 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5908434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Niebla Roja will be on botchamania
and so will Caristico, he was fucking up as well. The main event went wrong sadly.
Chiva III - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:37:31 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5908990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hardcore legend Dave The Clown get serious
Chiva III - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:47:02 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5908998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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*gets serious
Candice Michelle - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:51:09 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5909000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn that thumbnail is lewd.
Nick Bockwinkel - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 13:38:17 EST ID:tzwr2LaQ No.5909036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Penta needs to expand his merch selection
I ask if he has anything between small and large and he's all CERO MEDIO
Kanyon - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 14:08:07 EST ID:yDxgOVZE No.5909046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bushwhacker Luke - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 14:15:03 EST ID:KMpYOtSX No.5909051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bubba Ray Dudley - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 05:41:29 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5909513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do luchadoras ever have cabella vs cabella matches? Are they especially rare/taboo?
Cuije - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:02:06 EST ID:z1Fwgq1T No.5909516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Darren Young - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:13:18 EST ID:KQFZKwLE No.5909530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They're not taboo per se, but since more of female wrestler's appeal is tied up in how attractive they are, fewer luchadoras are willing to give up their hair. That's why you get stuff like Faby Apache losing her hair to Sexy Star and, instead of getting a full shave, having like three inches halfheartedly cut off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w14k9dP7iJc

If you want to watch a really good female apuestas match, Faby vs Mari Apache is widely considered one of the best Triplemania matches period. Very bloody, very intense, and available in decent quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6utXpzzKFr0
Sable - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:37:36 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5909638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what the fuck is wrong with him?
>By Mike Johnson, PWnsider
>The Tijuana, Mexico-based Crash Lucha Libre promotion announced today that Konnan, who had been working as a booker and head of creative for the company, was gone from the company.

>We are told that Konnan was let go this past Thursday following a locker room meeting and the decision to announce it today was to not distract from the promotion's events over this past weekend in Mexico. Konnan had joined the promotion after he and AAA fell out of favor, sparking a lot of talent to move to Crash and leading the promotion to running more events outside of Tijuana on a regular basis.

>The promotion issued the following statement o PWInsider.com this morning after we requested comment in an attempt to confirm the story:

>The Crash Lucha Libre brand is known for the way we treat people and value each and every single person that works in this company. Bettering the economical and habitual needs. Showing the support for each element and giving opportunity to new talent.

>In this way, the value and professionalism shown between each of its partners.

>Not being able to comply to the Crash Lucha Libre code of ethic, is something that we do not tolerate in this company.

>With that being said, We not announce that Carlos Santiago Espada "Konnan", will no longer be working with The Crash.

>We thank him for the time and support and wish him the best in his future endeavors.

>We will be announcing the dates for 2018 with the best matches and our debut in the United States.

>We are told a Spanish-language version of the statement was issued to media in Mexico this morning as well.

>Politically, it should be interesting to see what this means for Crash Lucha Libre's working relationship with Impact Wrestling, especially since Konnan is a regular for Impact as part of the LAX faction.

>Konnan was recently announced as the head writer for the Aro Lucha promotion out of Nashville, TN, a position we are told Impact Wrestling has given him permission to pursue. One would have expected that Konnan would have been the conduit to bring Crash talents in for that group, which is taping a TV pilot this Sunday 12/10 in Nashville, TN. Whether this exit changes that remains to be seen as well.

>Crash Lucha Libre is slated to run New Orleans over Wrestlemania 34 weekend in April 2018 as part of Wrestlecon. It should be interesting to see how much of their plans going forward change with Konnan's dismissal.

>Konnan has not, as of yet, commented on his departure and was retweeting fans' comments about Crash's weekend events as if he was still associated with the company.
Evan Bourne - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 12:20:15 EST ID:h3BSP9/4 No.5909655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Konnan, Russo and the Super Nazi Bros. running a lucha show in Nashville. What a time to be alive.

What a time to be alive.
Evan Bourne - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 12:25:03 EST ID:h3BSP9/4 No.5909659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well I botched that.

I see Penta is apparently booked on one of their shows. Odd being that he’s the LU champ and all.

And even weirder is that he’s going by the name Pentagon.
Pinkie Sanchez - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 12:33:54 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5909664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah somehow I get the feeling that there's going to be some irregularities in the production of Original Subterranean Mexican Wrestling Do Not Steal.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 14:57:55 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5910785 Report Quick Reply
Here's more on Konnan leaving The Crash from cubsfan:

>Today’s Wrestling Observer Radio reports that, in addition to the Arolucha issue, the Crash lost trust in Konnan after he had a meeting with Dorian Roldan. Impact set up the meeting, to try to get the promotions working together probably so it would be easier for Impact to work with both of them, but the story is Konnan didn’t tell The Crash about it and they found out second hand. Dorian, thru Lucha Libre FMV, has been actively threatening lawsuits against Rey Fenix & Penta 0M and the people who create artwork for them, and there’s been no sign of that ceasing lately. It doesn’t look like they made any progress about getting all along.

>LA Park posted on Facebook that he heard the people of The Crash held a vote about letting Konnan stay or cutting him, and “everyone” but Rey Mysterio wanted Konnan to go. It’s unclear who would be in “everyone”. It’s unclear if LA Park is just telling a story here; for a long time he didn’t want any part of The Crash, then suddenly started showing up on shows the last month or so, and that’s probably when this situation started.

>The usual thing that happens in this situation is Mount Konnan erupts, and we all watch the explosion from a safe distance, dodging the fall out. This time, Konnan’s not said much. He’s replied to a few people on Twitter, pointing them to his podcast for more info. That’ll be out Thursday. He’s mostly looking forward, telling people he’ll work with them again. Maybe Konnan isn’t burning a bridge because he thinks it might still be repaired, maybe he’s being careful not to do anything that might endanger getting the guys he wants on the Arolucha show.

>Garza Jr., Damian 666 and Bestia 666 put out video statements saying they were sticking with The Crash even with Konnan leaving. There’s a statement attributed to Penta noting he and Fenix came to The Crash on their own (not via Konnan), and will continue to be independent. I can’t find where that originally comes from, but that matches what I’ve heard privately. Rey Mysterio is the other key person to hear from on this. I don’t see a comment from him, but there were photos of him with the new The Crash Heavyweight championship belt – a belt with his mask design alluded to in the center and photos of Perro Aguayo Jr. and Eddie Guerrero, so a title intended for him all along.

>Everyone’s being very clear that the The Crash WrestleCon show is still on – the promotion moved fast there to make sure that didn’t change, it’s part of their US plans – and the The Crash show at the ExpoLucha show is also still on. None of the wrestlers are being pulled from AroLucha on Sunday, and none of the The Crash lineups are changing.

>At this point, no one seems to have to choose between Konnan and The Crash. What we’ve learned about The Crash over the last two months is they can run more than a dozen shows in Tijuana a year, but they’re not strong enough in the rest of the country yet to run anything close to full time. There’s going to be plenty of dates for people to work both (and plenty more places), if both sides allow them.

I'm surprised that Konnan didn't tell The Crash beforehand about working for AroLucha because that is kind of a shady thing to do especially given The Crash's working relationship with Impact now in jeopardy because of this situation.
Ricky Steamboat - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 15:06:05 EST ID:xiKMXycW No.5910793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder what this will mean for Penta and Fenix then
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 15:10:47 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5910805 Report Quick Reply
Given how LU has now given its wrestlers more leeway in being able to work for other companies that have television in the US and Canada like ROH and Impact do. I’m interested to see where the Lucha Bros. work for if they’re still under contract for next season unless they’re waiting to get out and try to go to WWE. I know there’s speculation that they might be the gaijins that Ricochet recommended to Dragon Gate to bring in but we’ll see.
Jeff Hardy - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 18:05:16 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5910940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ccheers, added it to the playlist.
BTW poppin' in to ask: do Mephisto & Caristico have heat, storyline or otherwise? I'm watching a 6-man from July and heard commentary say "Caristico contra Mephisto, mascara contra mascara" as though it's something one/both are lobbying for. I know they had a pair of title matches earlier in the year but IIRC that ended with mutual respect & hand-raising.
Amazing Red - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:10:11 EST ID:wM28tZrm No.5911520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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La Parka xmog gear pls
Miyako Matsumoto - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 14:44:06 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5911565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any awful psychotic bullshit happen in the world of lucha libre since I last checked which was probably 3 months ago? Or just general bullshit like talent exoduses?
Repo Man - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 11:07:40 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5913262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm about 3 months out from being caught up and scrolled past this on cubsfan. Good enough?
Lash LeRoux - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 17:54:54 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5913442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
got linked to this on yt youve probably all seen it but i loved it
John Laurinaitis - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 05:07:30 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5913774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So is there any difference between CMLL's 3 tiers of title or is it an entirely superficial way to get more belts on more peeps?
I've presumed the latter for years but keep finding snips of lore like the CMLL World titles officially being the biggest deal and the Mexican National titles only allowing Mexican challengers.
Eddie Edwards - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 23:32:14 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5914413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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this was the card for arolucha which sold out
Jon Bolen - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 23:41:54 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5914420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sounds like a good card
Michael Tarver - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:30:06 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.5914900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nice match
The Miz - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:58:27 EST ID:YpGkQ5tf No.5914963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
"CMLL & NWA world" titles are more prestigious than the other belts. "Mexican national" titles are the 2nd tier. In all honesty, belts mean little except for entry into that annual tournament they have with all the champions. There might be a reign here or there where there's a top guy with a belt (like when maximo sexy won), or there's a top feud for a belt, but by and large, you'll see apuesto matches headline over title matches, and titles regularly change hands at house shows.
Will o' The Wisp - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:45:06 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5915061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
All 3 NWA Historic title already have CMLL versions tho. What's the point of them? Especially since they split from the NWA and gave them the "Historic" tagline in the first place. Are they meant to be on the CMLL titles' level or just below or some alternate branch or what?
Will o' The Wisp - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:51:13 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5915066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Three other stray thoughts I should probably dump before I forget them:
>are senton's considered an especially 'rudo' move?
>anybody have a link to McDonalds luchador commercial, featuring Shocker?
>is there a rec-list for Sombra-vs-Volador? I wanna give the feud a comprehensive look, see what history & counters informed their Apuestas match.
Larry Zbyszko - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:14:19 EST ID:MouTGOaP No.5915087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good lord, thems thick.
Lance Steel - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:27:12 EST ID:YZpQmKUA No.5915097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lucha women's wrestling is underrated as fuck
>Great looks, especially with masks (Shadi, Hiedra, and Ludark are among my favorites)
>Most of them can fucking work
>T H I C C in the good way (there's Goya Kong, Mary Apache, and Big Mami if that's not enough for you)
So yeah, fuck Sexy Star for her shittiness being what a lot of people first think of when it's brought up, along with all the things that contribute to said shittiness.
Little Egypt - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:29:04 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5915099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like AAA's women. CMLL's are good but I find them too samey and it comes out to me as "then a bunch of people flip or something" even for CMLL
Lance Steel - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:33:07 EST ID:YZpQmKUA No.5915102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I said most. AAA has the better division for sure (barring that Sexy was part of it for a bit this year). CMLL has some good ones like Zeuxis, mostly ones that can work on the mat. The indies have a good amount of strong workers as well, with Ludark being the main standout due to her versatility and general lack of giving a fuck in deathmatches.

Speaking of, Ludark has a visa now, right? Why the fuck is nobody booking her in the states? Somebody should let Beyond or somebody know about her so we can get her vs Tremont and Gage and shit.
Little Egypt - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:37:55 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5915104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I said most.
I'm not sure what point you're reiterating. I wasn't challenging your statements, just offering my owh thoughts about lucha gals being good at stuff
Lance Steel - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:43:32 EST ID:YZpQmKUA No.5915113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry, I guess I misread your tone.
DJ Hyde - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:48:02 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5915116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This was the first fall of the rematch. :^)
Blue Panther - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:49:28 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5915118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ludark has worked IWA-MS this year. She was in KotD.
Little Egypt - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:52:06 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5915120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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it's all good
Lance Steel - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:53:14 EST ID:YZpQmKUA No.5915123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stretch mufflers are fucking awesome.

I knew that much, that's how I learned she had the visa. I just think she should be getting more bookings, at least in other Deathmatch promotions with more eyes on them. Now that I think about it, she'd be a perfect fit for Janela's next Spring Break show.
Magnum T.A. - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 19:43:31 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5919937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Generalissimo Takada - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 21:58:41 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5920086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sometimes I think he might actually be from space
Atsushi Kotoge - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 00:30:50 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.5920216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 03:33:26 EST ID:iZq+4qgo No.5920279 Report Quick Reply
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Wonder which luchador he’ll face.
David Von Erich - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:03:55 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5921935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What's this i keep hearing about a big CMLL Cage Match coming up?

Its mentions never include context, just... it's happening.

Also any reason Leyenda de Azul is all rudo?
Rodney Mack - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:15:20 EST ID:UOlqu0ps No.5921938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its full of first match tier wrestlers who have been feuding in the first matches of tuesday shows
Danny Basham - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:29:01 EST ID:po+qYTtV No.5921947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They should run a show called Crash at the Beach
David Von Erich - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 15:48:00 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5921954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So worth binging some Tuesday show first matches first or nah?
Jack Swagger - Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:13:53 EST ID:Bs6zQc8D No.5922331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Daga would be a great fit. Stoked for my broest of bros.
Jasmine St. Claire - Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:35:13 EST ID:RBXmzxmR No.5922742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Caristico's mask is being ripped off by Volador jr.
Dementia - Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:42:11 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5922905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so the Axis Of Evil
are they great or are they great
Dude Love - Sun, 24 Dec 2017 17:51:23 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5923530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Caristico is a bitch-ass ho.
Christy Hemme - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 18:54:51 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5924469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>watch critmit cage match
>look up participants during
>Starman already lost his mask on on an Onita show 16 years ago yet is still somehow anonymous
Seriously it sounds kinda fascinating. Any deets why he wasn't held to it? Or more pertinently: how there's no record of his name, birthplace etc. from the loss?

Alternatively, anybody got lore on his senpai Ultraman here? Specifically: if he worked himself 2 mask loss paydays. 'Cuz that's what it looks like:
>Brazo de Oro (mask) Ultraman (mask) Tijuana, Baja California Live event September 3, 1987
>Cinta de Oro (mask) Ultraman (mask) Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua Live event September 9, 1987
Caprice Coleman - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:02:42 EST ID:XK07g1Z3 No.5924480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Johnny Kidd - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:20:49 EST ID:EBjt630+ No.5924504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>2 mask loss paydays.
Check the dates. These matches were less than a week apart in 1987. It's almost 800 mi from Tijuana to Juarez. It's totally feasible.

regarding starman...
>January 1, 2001, he became Ultraman Jr. again to lose his mask to Arkangel de la Muerte in a Japanese card co-promoted by Atsushi Onita. This mask loss was never acknowledged nor even mentioned in his home country.
He wasn't held to anything cause it was just a gimmick match in Japan. The Mexican commission had nothing to do with it.
Lillian Garcia - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:24:06 EST ID:szAGjBCt No.5924506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh man Charlie Haas what a pull
Randy Orton - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:47:40 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5924525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well yeah but he still UNMASKED right?
"Here's my face, my name is ___, I was born in ___" so on so forth.
Did they fudge that part or just get the yakuza to gun down every witness?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:56:00 EST ID:OCLfWHTp No.5924537 Report Quick Reply
>Matt Riddle vs. Rey Horus

That could be a very interesting clash of styles

>Masada and Mr. 450 in the main event

Fucking why
The Esperanza - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 20:27:07 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5924589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ultraman comes back to life sometimes, doesn't he? Only reasonable that he should regenerate his mask.

holy shit Mamba that nose ring is so not a good look
Johnny Kidd - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 20:48:07 EST ID:EBjt630+ No.5924621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's Japan. It was the early 00s. To them, it's not a thing. They don't care. It wasn't fudged because it was never going to happen. The Mexican commission cares about this, but they had nothing to do with that match.

This is like asking why sin cara didn't to this when he lost to sin cara in that mask vs mask match in the WWE.
Wahoo McDaniel - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:14:25 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5925631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>This is like asking why sin cara didn't to this when he lost to sin cara in that mask vs mask match in the WWE.
Different situation, since a) he started competing maskless and b) being a WWE employee had already given out all of those personal details, but I see your point. So you think he just took off the mask, covered his face & cheesed it? That'd makes sense. He'd dropped the Ultraman Jr gimmick by the original's request and, like you said, "became Ultraman Jr. again to lose his mask", so presumably it was just his way of giving that particular gimmick closure; not his entire masked career.
The Sheik - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:44:21 EST ID:YpGkQ5tf No.5925670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was a payday in Japan. You're putting way too much fanfiction into this.
Wahoo McDaniel - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:55:04 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5925680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why not just use his Starman mask then?
I'm not saying he sought out an opportunity to bid the Ultraman Jr shtick farewell, just that when the opportunity came knocking he saw a way to double-down.
Ring Ryda Blue - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 19:05:22 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5925872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>CMLL put up a Dia de los Inocentes joke post about running a Caristico/Mistico mask match. When the joke is “haha, we’re not going to really run the match you want to see”, it’s not really a good joke. Zona Ruda did the same thing with Johnny Mundo versus Vampiro but that one’s fine, no one wants to see that.
-from luchablog
Vader - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 20:28:02 EST ID:k+ptwGJ7 No.5925909 Ignore Report Quick Reply

At least 450 can actually sell.
Stinky the Homeless Guy - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 20:43:38 EST ID:mucKzjjt No.5925913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I mean, he sold so well on 205 Live he worked people into thinking he was injured there and not beforehand
Colt Cabana - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 21:12:09 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5925920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>hating on Mr Mecha Wolf 450 Turbo Hyper Fighting ##+
shiggity higgity
he was an innovator in wearing DBZ shit to the ring
Penny Banner - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 23:15:24 EST ID:Rk+z/NHG No.5925955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Vito - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 00:13:23 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5925974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's just occurred to me that thecubsfan is lucha's very own Meltzer in the Meltzer-shaped void lucha has.
The extensive news coverage and exhaustive results reports should've been enough to tip me off but only now that I see the sass does it click.

Anyway between how far off the next Anniversario is and how bloody backwards the crowds are reacting I'm not too worried. Might as well wait until they finally run out of 'member berries & wake up to how utterly shite Caristico is.
Trish Stratus - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 07:57:20 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5926079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know I'm late as fuck but yeah, that'll do ==b

Any more of this wild west bullshit? Like I bet there's some scummy lucha story happening out there RIGHT NOW that we won't know about for a month or 2, like I remember some CMLL dudes beating the shit out of some guy at a gas station and it only being reported months after.
Colt Cabana - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:36:34 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5926106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
an innovator, not the originator
he's one of a few who helped wearing DBZ shit to the ring reach critical mass so that now basically every promotion has a ginyu force doing the fusion dance in battle armor with scouters
keep up with cubsfan and his twitter
there's rarely stabbings and leaving Venum to die by the side of the road after an injury but that's a decent source for English speaking
Trish Stratus - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:46:55 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5926113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>leaving Venum to die by the side of the road after an injury
Do we know what the fuck this was really about yet? Management just legit forgot?
Vito - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 10:26:07 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5926166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There was some skuttlebutt about Sexy Star pulling another Sexy Star shortly after that one. Saved it in case you came back but it's on my other PC, stay tuned.
Ray - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:16:05 EST ID:sOyFhOjv No.5926544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is this going to be sanctioned by Big Bank Billy Pumpkin the Third?
SoCal Val - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 22:39:08 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5926598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yer about 7 years too l8 for that deb8 m8.
They're called the "HISTORIC" Titles for a reason. The connection to NWA is purely historic; not legal.
Melina - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 23:47:36 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5926637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Masa Takanashi - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 11:34:21 EST ID:WfdynbWa No.5926858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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CMLL posted the lineup for their Three King's Day show, which is supposed to be a reprise of the best matches of 2017.

The main event definitely fits the description (it's definitely up there for my matches of the year), but I have to admit I'm less convinced of the rest of the lineup. However, it might be interesting to see what GG and Niebla Roja are able to come up with without the prestige of the anniversary show behind them, and it's always nice to see Virus booked for big dates. In my opinion, CMLL isn't doing enough to push the Munoz bros as heels, so it might have been a good idea to include them, but it's not like there's a ton of space at the top of Arena Mexico cards anyway.

The new Dinamitas are kind of stuck with ass opponents, but that's mostly due to Niebla Roja not being available for a tag match.
Masa Takanashi - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 11:36:26 EST ID:WfdynbWa No.5926859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry for the double post, but I'm also a little sad Soberano isn't getting a better match. In a way it speaks to the value the Dinamitas have to CMLL that they're involved in so many different feuds, but imagine Sanson vs Soberano for this show...
Cowboy Bob Orton - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:21:47 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5927192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:12:31 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5927223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>CMLL isn't doing enough to push the Munoz bros as heels
Joel Gertner - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 23:00:57 EST ID:JaYozsOT No.5928561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The already started bad the year with this so stupid result 👎🏻 wasted a natural badass like Sam Adonis by making him lose to a veteran wrestler whose hair is worth nothing

Congratulations serious and stable
Joel Gertner - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 23:09:12 EST ID:JaYozsOT No.5928567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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wrong image nb
Hollywood - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 07:40:45 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5928715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could have used a better build to the ending but I'm mostly okay with it.
His hair will grow back, it establishes that he can lose apuestas so there's better drama in future ones.
If he had won they would have run out of old guys for him to shave pretty fast after this.
Justice - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 11:05:46 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5928821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>natural badass
>Sam Adonis
Justice - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 11:08:28 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5928826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Your card sir
Okada - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 11:37:32 EST ID:2vSml1nZ No.5928855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Some people should not be bald. Apparently Buddy Stetcher is one of them.
Winter - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 04:48:55 EST ID:RDibsRVE No.5929530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Crossing from puro but Crash is working with Dragon Gate soon

Kevin Nash - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 06:30:29 EST ID:4aAtIlGZ No.5929565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Fenix wrestling in Dragon Gate

Cyrus - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:25:05 EST ID:i2L7x/5J No.5929662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucking awesome
Winter - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:21:03 EST ID:RDibsRVE No.5929936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hopefully him and Penta appear in Dragon Gate especially since NJPW isn’t an option though I expect Rey Horus to show up at least
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:33:10 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5929958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's some injury news to report:

>Pagano suffered a fractured rib in Torreon. It was a spot gone very wrong with Murder Clown, which they’re now turning into a storyline on Twitter. Pagano’s fractured rib turned out to be quite bad: AAA announced Pagano will be out three months. Pagano didn’t have a lot going on screen after the Mesias feud wrapped up but he was one of the busiest wrestlers on AAA live events thru the year and will be tough to replace. On the other hand, Pagano is known for his dangerous stunts and doesn’t always seem to be doing things in the safest way, so it’s a little surprising he made it this long without a serious injury. AAA doesn’t have a lot of top guys left healthy who would normally be thought of as full time main eventers – maybe Psycho, Texano, Fantasma and Parka – but they’ve already been offering main events with guys who don’t feel like main events and it doesn’t seem like local promoters have stopped using them. I would guess that Psycho Clown also going down any time soon would really hurt AAA, but they may just be able to sell AAA shows on being AAA at this point.

>On the positive note, Atlantis says he’s ready for Fantastica Mania. It does not appear he’ll wrestle in Mexico prior to that tour at this point. That was the same thing that happened with Mistico the year he came back from the motorcycle accident, and he looked far less than 100%. Hope it goes better with Atlantis.

Also voting for the 2017 Tapatia Awards, designed to honor the best in lucha libre over the past year, is now open - https://goo.gl/forms/bhJB59mG1sDayhEB3

That's cool they're working together now though could this also mean Dragon Gate being brought into The Crash's alliance with Impact, AAA and NOAH?
Akeem - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 16:53:16 EST ID:in0Q8i+P No.5930052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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in other "things I saw on cubsfan" there's the theoretical card for a Feb AAA show
>AAA TV (FRI) 02/02/2018 Salón Rojo del Club Toluca, Toluca, Estado de México
>1) Big Mami & Lady Shani vs Ashley & Faby Apache
>2) Niño Hamburguesa vs Dave The Clown
>3) Histeria & Psicosis vs Joe Lider & Mr. Águila
>4) Angelikal, Argenis, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzelot vs Australian Suicide, Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
>5) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, La Parka vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana
>6) Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. & Hijo del Fantasma vs Texano Jr. & Villano III Jr.
>7) ? vs ??

Did I blink and miss something or is Villano III jr jumping waaaaaaaaaaaaaay the fuck up the card with this?
Cyrus - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:09:40 EST ID:i2L7x/5J No.5930068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>That's cool they're working together now though could this also mean Dragon Gate being brought into The Crash's alliance with Impact, AAA and NOAH?
I can definitely see that. Dragon Gate is trying to go back out into the world again & Impact is trying to form partnerships with as many feds as possible. If this means DG goes on the GWN, I'd be cool with that.
Byron Saxton - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:32:54 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5930100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>This wraps up the fourteen year of luchablog, with about ten years of daily updates. Thank you for reading.
>If you follow on Twitter too, thanks for putting up with my increasingly cranky and antagonistic posts. I’m aware it’s happening, it’s not a great look, but I can’t seem to stop myself. And thanks to people like Rob and Freddy and Jose and plenty of others for tolerating me personally when I’m being useless and won’t just eat the free post show tacos, and for pushing me to do things I’d never do on my own. What you get here doesn’t really give you a true idea of what kind of nonsense person I am in reality. I’m probably a bit over dramatic (and it’s about to get a lot worse), but there’s are people who went out of their way to make my life easier, and I’m not good at letting them know how much I appreciate it. I really do appreciate it.
>There are some things I have to struggle with on my own. With all respect to everyone else, I feel like luchablog is the best place site on Mexican wrestling that exists. I also feel like that means I’m a tiny spec, it’s not nearly enough, not good enough, that there should be some next level I should be getting that I have no idea how to even understand, let alone reach. I feel like I should be doing someTHING, be part of something more, but I don’t know if that more even exists, or if I really should be doing something less. And it’s entirely possible these are just issues with the rest of my life that are just bleeding into this.
>Lucha libre is a niche of a niche of a niche, so there’s only so much people will ever care, and lucha libre (and wrestling itself) often seems to repel people against caring. Maybe this is as far as it can be taken, and maybe I should learn to be more content with what I’ve accomplished and what I’m doing. There’s just this nagging part of me I can’t quiet, that says doing this as it is forever is not enough, that I wouldn’t accept the lack of growth in others and I shouldn’t accept it from me. I don’t know. If I had answers, I’d write them. This year, I’m certain I don’t have the answers.
>Here’s what I do know: I’ll be back tomorrow with a new update, and a recap if I have time for it. And the day after that, and for a long time to come. And I’m definitely not looking for people saying nice things about me in the comments or on Twitter. I appreciate any thoughts along those lines if when I refuse to acknowledge them, but I’m not looking for those with this. I think I need to work on trying some different things in 2018. If I do, and if they’re any good, save the praise for that.
>There’s is one actual announcement. I’m bringing back the Tapatia awards. I’m not going to mention it on Twitter until it’s ready to go, but voting will be open in the next couple of days and be open long enough to let you (or me, mostly me) finish catching up on 2018. They’re going to be stripped down, with less categories and less depth, because I don’t want it to be intimidating. Awards get attention, more attention for lucha libre is good, so this is one of those things I feel like something has to do. And I think that’s the thing you can continue to expect in 2018: if there’s something worth doing about lucha libre that no one else is doing, you can count on me throwing myself at it.
Guys how can we help cubsenpai make lucha great again?

Also here's the award vote:

...Also Triton is kill. Pray4Triton.
Winter - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:55:17 EST ID:RDibsRVE No.5930123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think Crash is trying to get out of the alliance due to the Konnan firing and also I have read Dragon Gate isn't on good terms with NOAH either
Bobby The Brain Heenan - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 19:21:52 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5930320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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realistically there's not a whole lot to do other than watch lucha and discuss it here and on other boards
when you see a show you like talk it up and provide links so others can see it
the great thing about lucha is how basically all of the modern product is on youtube, often legit-ish

Kemonito spots and various Tortugas can help to get people to notice that it exists, but I try to keep it vaguely appropriate to the conversation

like I'll bring up CMLL as an alternative for people transitioning from WWE because there's a lot who like Weekly Live Wrassle Shows, and CMLL can really help to shore up losing those if you drop WWE

I try to offer advice for people getting into lucha
stick with it, take time to get used to the different rhythm, like how you don't just jump from DBZ to Naruto to Bleach to Yu Yu Hakusho to Fist of the North Star, sure they're all shonen fight shows but they all pace their fights differently with their own unique traits, go for full weekly shows over individual matches so you get the full context of the matches

I try to toss the CMLL youtube shows on my taima channel but I don't always manage to
if that could get more reliable people doing it on the regular it wouldn't hurt
Sonjay Dutt - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 20:29:37 EST ID:rl+kWclA No.5930446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yo, trying to fill out the awards form, but I (like every year) struggle with recalling the best matches beyond the Parejas Increibles finals. Anyone care to jog my memory as far as outstanding matches last year go?

Oh, and as far as the growth of lucha libre goes: I'm still not sue why all those free matches on Youtube aren't monetized properly. It can't be that hard legally, seeing as nobody takes intellectual property seriously in Mexico, and taking in fifty bucks for recording a show might incentivize people to throw up more footage in decent quality. Kind of what Black Terry does, except more current and less dependent on one person attending a specific show.
Jimmy Wang Yang - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:09:27 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5930577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When in doubt, think of masks, hair, titles & tourneys.
Dos Caras - Thu, 04 Jan 2018 01:36:03 EST ID:omI3Lx8R No.5930936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Demus vs Wotan from gimnasio hercules was january 17
Anthony Nese - Thu, 04 Jan 2018 10:53:04 EST ID:OkdFtis5 No.5931486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Mentallo - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 08:18:57 EST ID:na0rgITl No.5932303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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awful news

let's put an end to harmful maneuvers targeting the ribs
D'Lo Brown - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 08:44:30 EST ID:g0M3Fu3r No.5932312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh man, and it would've been his first Fantasticamania tour too
P.N. News - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 10:49:28 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5932359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuck what the fuck no

life is so fucking unfair to lucha
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:04:18 EST ID:x+TdOd7F No.5932703 Report Quick Reply
That really sucks. Negro at Fantastica Mania would have been fantastic.
Steve The Turtle Weiner - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 19:09:08 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5932709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If Suzuki is on those shows I am gonna kill a nigga.
Gunner - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:00:00 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5933143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Took some notes on the Zona Ruda interview with Dorian Roldan He briefly pointed out the highlights in AAA's calendar for 2018 March- Rey de Reyes (Puebla) August- Triplemania Feb/March- LU taping April- Columbia/Panama tour October- Japan short tour November- England short tour
>Dorian teased a big surprise for Guerra de Titanes. The appearance of a national wrestler that is big deal. That negotiations have been going favorably.
>He talked openly about the relationship with CMLL. Mentioning Rush vs Hijo del Fantasma would be happening tomorrow if CMLL allowed it.
>When asked about her. -Dorian thinks Sexy Star is taking a break from the company to clear her mind and weigh her options. That she will likely come back to be part of the "family" again.
>When asked about her. -Dorian also mentioned that he spoke with Taya 2 weeks ago about how her time in Impact has gone for her. That he thinks the relationship is still there. That we can expect to see her in AAA once again in the future.
>He buried that bogus card that they released of the Triplemania and said they have been planning Triplemania already and plan to carry 3 apuestas feuds all year. One for each big show I assume.
for the episode, autotranslate sorta works
Faby Apache - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 18:42:23 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5934007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
isn't this that music CMLL plays before the show starts?
El Mesias - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 18:47:19 EST ID:BJSVCa1x No.5934010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Comments had a link to the whole thing. Can't say if it's what CMLL uses, these no copyright songs must be intentionally desgined to be as forgettable as possible.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:03:43 EST ID:iZq+4qgo No.5935707 Report Quick Reply
Fantastica Mania 2018 tour lineups are up:


They’re doing a brothers tag team tournament and four title matches on the Korakuen shows although Hiroshi Tanahashi and Kazuchika Okada are absent on those shows.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 10-01-2018 15:34:08
Chris Masters - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:35:05 EST ID:QkNQoiME No.5936193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love Sam Adonis's wig so much
Prince Devitt - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:52:21 EST ID:/CHwe9JJ No.5937708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Trytan - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:55:32 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5937727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
FantasticaMania promotionals?
Kenta Kobashi - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:34:08 EST ID:mucKzjjt No.5937749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tempted to buy any merch with the Kamaitachi mask on it tbh
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:34:11 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5937885 Report Quick Reply
Results from Day 1 of Fantastica Mania - http://thecubsfan.com/cmll/events/shows/00070000/00070411.php

It’ll air on Samurai TV on tape delay but we’ll schedule a time to show it when it gets uploaded.
Trytan - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:19:12 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5937920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Friendly reminder that Caristico's a geek.
Dos Caras - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:20:54 EST ID:qRLqgUuI No.5938034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Spots like that look so fucking stupid.
Mistico - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:17:52 EST ID:1HfshKqN No.5938129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They look good when Mistico II does them. He can't even look he's so embarassed.

Best wrestling picture of the year just got locked down btw.
Trytan - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:25:36 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5938135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I agree, but at least when Mistico does it he does it immediately. Almost like, I dunno, this is a fight and your partner's in pain and there's a window of opportunity? The rudos are the only ones that come off looking stupid for trying to show off & failing spectacularly.
Then Cara started doing it instead and came off looking like the biggest twat of them all every single time. It's truly astounding how few fucks he gives about making anything look good. You know; the POINT of a tecnico?
Kenta Kobashi - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:52:15 EST ID:mucKzjjt No.5938163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Snow White Hiedra
>Dopey Psycho Clown
>Evil Old Hang Sexy Star
>Bashful Aerostar
Obariyon - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:31:53 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5938194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like Grumpy Pagano as the counterpart to Dopey Psycho
Rosie Lottalove - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:11:22 EST ID:zw7US0nW No.5938699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Dave The Clown is a garish millennial.
feud of the decade here
Jamie Knoble - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 19:40:11 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5939628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>mean jerks have take h Fantasma's mask
>let's grab a fan mask that somebody passes us
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:46:52 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5939963 Report Quick Reply
Fantastica Mania Day 2 results are up - http://thecubsfan.com/cmll/events/shows/00070000/00070412.php
Johnny Curtis - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:54:09 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5939970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There were 8 days right? When'd the taped ones start?
Highlander Robbie - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:56:24 EST ID:2HLzGj7a No.5939971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Last three days are on NJPW World iirc

Re: pic, is that the gal who wrestled a couple matches in Mex indies last year?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:59:42 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5939974 Report Quick Reply
They taped the first day on Samurai TV, which I think we should be able to show on Sunday night if AAW Windy City Classic XIII isn't up yet. Days 6-8 will air live on NJPW World.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 15-01-2018 14:09:16
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:20:12 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5940970 Report Quick Reply
Fantastica Mania Day 3 results are up - http://thecubsfan.com/cmll/events/shows/00070000/00070413.php
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:29:34 EST ID:yS2umyAr No.5941045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Atsushi Kotoge - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:42:59 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5941493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so that guy with the masks in the Arena Mexico crowd

seems cool enough to me
Atsushi Kotoge - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 22:25:09 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5941530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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this guy
nb for 2x
Beth Phoenix - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 22:46:54 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5941549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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like my shirt?
Beth Phoenix - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 22:47:48 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5941551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:42:13 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5941930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Results and news from Days 4 and 5 of Fantastica Mania are up:


>They drew 1025 and 1015 in Osaka the last couple years, so that’s a significant improvement. In post match interviews, Dragon Lee said Kawato would be a superstar after two years. In post match interviews, Dragon Lee said Hirai Kawato would be a superstar after two years.

Speaking of which:

>NJPW announced the lucha libre piggy banks sold out, and they’re hoping to get more in June. They were so popular that they were limiting them to one per person, and that still wasn’t enough.
Kobald - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:35:57 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5942936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is now a Raro Fanáticos thread.
Super Dragon - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:35:52 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5942981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Penta Mom is moe af
Super Dragon - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:37:11 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5942985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Penta Mom going over to the ramp for the heels because of her superior taste
Kobald - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:53:43 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5942995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>impyling topPueb isn't TJPcito
Highlander Robbie - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:39:02 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5943878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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yay live CMLL
Don Harris - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:44:17 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5943881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Highlander Robbie - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 22:47:15 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5943944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kofi Kingston - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:53:32 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5944804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is there any context/story behind Caristico & Mephisto not liking each other?

They seem to fight a LOT and sure enough he was on Cara's recent Apuestas hit-list.
Daivari - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:03:54 EST ID:I6NDQVKe No.5944807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because he's Caristico and that's what he does.
Kofi Kingston - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:19:19 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5944810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I... what?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:36:17 EST ID:ksa9NS5E No.5944814 Report Quick Reply
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Here's the full story about Matt Riddle double booking AAW and The Crash:

>The Crash runs it’s first Tijuana show of the year tonight in a few hours. The main event is scheduled to be Daga, Masada and Penta vs Bestia, Garza and Mr. 450. The semimain will now by Rey Horus (making his return to the promotion) versus Joey Janela (making his debut.) That was the Matt Riddle spot; The Crash finally announced Riddle as off the show Friday afternoon, posting the flight information and some Twitter DM conversations with Riddle taking the blame. Unlike you and me, The Crash’s Twitter DMs do not appear to include dates or times under the messages. Either The Crash uses a special version of Twitter not available to the rest of the world, or they took those items off to hide how long they’ve known about the cancellation.

>Here’s the thing: this didn’t start out as The Crash screwing up. The Crash totally legitimately booked Matt Riddle for this show. This was Matt Riddle double booking himself, as Matt Riddle has been known to do. My belief is Riddle wanted to go to Tijuana tonight and thought he could talk AAW out of letting him out of the 01/20 show, which is why he mentioned the show on Twitter. He could not, because it turned out AAW had planned on Riddle being the main event of their own show on that day. Riddle found this out, and didn’t immediately let The Crash know the bad news. (As best I can tell, he didn’t tell them until he asked.)

>The Crash’s problems came to light the moment AAW announced Riddle, but started from having a misguided view of their own importance. I write (and will continue to) write a lot about The Crash. I am one of the few people in the entire world writing much about The Crash. The promotion puts on good shows and draws a lot of fans to Tijuana and that actually really matter a whole lot in wrestling in 2018, as hard as it may to believe if you’re in Mexico. What matters for a wrestler is how much they’re getting paid, and their likelyhood to get paid more. I dunno what AAW & The Crash were offering Riddle for tonight, but I’m guessing AAW also previously agreed to bring in Riddle at least a half dozen dates in 2018. I’m 100% sure that working in front of an AAW (or any bigger US indie) crowd is also getting Riddle more dates because people who promoter and program other shows are 100% more likely to see Riddle on an AAW show than The Crash show. Running a show in front of 5,000 people is great and I wish everyone could do it, but the way you get people work in 2018 is to get them on (good quality) video so people elsehwere can see them, and then can book them elsewhere.

>The Crash (and every other Mexican indie) insistence on not taping their shows is making it less attractive for outsiders to want to work there. I doubt Riddle was working their even if they were live on Twitch – again, one booking versus a handful – but I’d suspect it makes a difference for a few. It’s probably costing The Crash money and I’m absolutely sure it’s costing the wrestlers work. Just to name a few, Arkangel Divino had a strong 2017 in the Crash, so did Black Danger, so did Bestia 666, so did Mr. 450 – and none of those guys are really getting booked elsewhere because of their work in The Crash because no one’s watching cellphone videos of matches besides me. Those same people are going to work WrestleMania weekend and – because a whole bunch of people who been able to easily see them might stumble upon them – they’re going to suddenly get a lot more inquiries. Visibility matters. The Crash is really visible to about 5,000 people but might as well be on the moon for the rest of the people. And same with most everyone else in Mexico.

>Anyway: The Crash assumed Riddle was coming because they’re The Crash, and hopefully this was a cup of cold water to the face waking them up to what being The Crash really means at this point. We’re about eighteen months into The Crash pinning all their hopes on a TV deal which is clearly not anywhere close to happening, so I’m not expecting this to be the wake up call. Still, there’s definitely an opening in the Mexican indie wrestling market for someone to promote like an adult.
Brodus Clay - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:05:51 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5944820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Matt Riddle is cool in person and seems like a genuinely nice dude, but he has to do something abut that stoner memory.
D-Ray 3000 - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:37:44 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5944843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's 2018. Your phone has a notepad feature.
Us humans noticed a few thousand years ago that our monkey brains are basically dumb af and invented writing shit down. It's really handy. Try it.
Arachnaman - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:26:58 EST ID:THI5x5cy No.5944861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>He did it again
oh that Riddle!
Mister Toad !SsYwTDHDIY - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:21:46 EST ID:gLVM35W0 No.5945156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I am going to post this in two threads because I also love my lucha brothers here.

Up first, this Mega has 52 Santo films on it, all are subbed, with Santo in the Wax Museum and Santo vs. the Vampire Women also being dual audio with English dub tracks.


>Of note, I am missing Santo contra la magia negra (Santo vs. Black Magic, 1972) and Blue Demon contra el poder satánico (Blue Demon vs. Satanic Power, 1964) in subbed form. I am also missing the English dubs that were produced for Santo contra los zombis (Santo vs. the Zombies, 1961) a.k.a. Invasion of the Zombies and Santo contra el doctor Muerte (Santo vs. Dr. Death, 1973) a.k.a. Santo Strikes Again, a.k.a. The Masked Man Strikes Again. If anyone has these or any leads I would greatly appreciate it.

I also made another mega with a few other miscellaneous Lucha movies.


In here is:

> Santo in 'The Vampire and the Sex' (1969) (Santo en el Vampiro y el sexo; English Subtitles), which is just a re-editing of Santo en el tesoro de Drácula (Santo in "The Treasure of Dracula", 1968) with porn scenes in it. On that note, I am also missing the other porn edited Santo film, The Lepers and Sex, a re-editing of Santo contra los jinetes del terror (Santo vs. the Terror Riders, 1970) .

> Starfighters (Luchadores de las Estrellas) (1992) - a modern movie featuring a fictional masked Luchadora. Many real luchadores in it, like Satanico, Blue Demon Jr, Volador, Misterioso.

> Captain America and Santo vs. Spider-Man (1973) (Three Giant Men-3 Dev Adam) - Unlicensed Turkish film where Santo (not played by the real one) and Captain America fight a villainous Spider-Man.

> Wrestlemaniac (El Mascarado Massacre) (2006) - An English slasher movie where Rey Misterio Sr. plays a masked wrestler who kills horny teenagers.

If anybody has any other lucha movies and wants to help a brother out with his collection please do. Otherwise, enjoy 'em.
Jeff Jarrett - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:38:37 EST ID:VOIUVw1m No.5945163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>3 Dev Adam
I'll question the 'villainous Spider-Man' since he doesn't do any Tobey Maguire style dancing, but he does do a nice line of torture using guinea pigs.
D-Ray 3000 - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:49:55 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5945166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've got some ugly raw copies of stuff like Magia Negra, I think I've got a few Blue Demons, like Aranes Infernales and the one with Zovek

I think I downloaded Hijo Fantasma's movie, looks like it's down from youtube.

iirc somebody who went on to be somebody is in Starfighters, I think the guy who played Sabretooth?

I also have a couple of Mil Mascaras movies raw where he fights John Carradine, one of them Carradine is a nazi, the other he's Dracula.
Kofi Kingston - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 18:53:18 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5945170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh shit I 'member Movebob talking 'bout this one.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:44:32 EST ID:iZq+4qgo No.5945368 Report Quick Reply
I uploaded all the luchador drawings from the Fantastica Mania intro - https://imgur.com/a/FXiMW
Dixie Carter - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:46:30 EST ID:CjXQiqmB No.5945369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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UG looking like the dude from the Spicy Keychain comic
Awesome Kong - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 05:32:57 EST ID:pwPmALvY No.5945426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I guess in happier note regarding Crash, now not sure if this is gonna be a match part of the show or if it'll be filmed but confirmed matches I'm hearing are Eita and T-Hawk defending the Open the Twin Gate titles against Penta and Fenix while Mecha Wolf 450 faces Yoshino
Kevin Sullivan - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 05:40:07 EST ID:i2L7x/5J No.5945429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Penta & Fenix vs. Eita & T-Hawk
Holy shit, that could be fucking great. Penta & Fenix are great & T&E despite their flaws have good chemistry as a team. I hope that gets filmed if it's happening.
Farooq - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 07:56:17 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5945470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Niebla Roja fans are the gift that keeps on giving.
Roxy Astor - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:14:54 EST ID:cjMzdD0b No.5945475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Fenix + Dragon Gate

Farooq - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:00:09 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5945547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>With a mischievous smile and a sparkle in his eyes, he recognized that up to now he is the only Mexican gladiator that has appeared in a Japanese anime, because in a page of these famous comic strips he can see a poster with his image.
>"I can not describe how I felt when I saw the drawing! For me it is a very great honor that they have put my image in one of these cartoons. It means that in some way I am an idol in that country, it is all a pride that they know me in such a distant region", he mentioned.
Anybody have the screencap? Or at least know the animu/mango?
Taylor Wilde - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:06:36 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5945551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>he is the only Mexican gladiator that has appeared in a Japanese anime
Atlantis said this?

I'm pretty sure Mil Mascaras was in the Kinnikuman anime when they were showing the champs who'd held the belt before.
Not sure about comics, but I'd be really surprised if somebody didn't draw Santo, Blue Demon, or Mil Mascaras in something before the 80s when Atlantis started.

I'm not aware of any Atlantis posters, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it existed.
Honky Tonk Man - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:25:36 EST ID:uZwog1/t No.5945561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I never knew how much I wanted tentacle porn of Atlantis.

Anyway, I'm typing up my choices for the awards thing luchablog is doing; did I forget anything super essential?
Farooq - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:47:18 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5945573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yee.Presumably he means of his generation, the Trinity are in a class of their own. Forgot the last bit:
>The so-called King of Atlantis affirmed that "for that kind of recognition and affection, it has been worth all that I have spent in my life as a fighter".
I see no problems. My picks were a lot more pleb anyway.
Why no 2nd or 3rd Luchador of the Year?
Honky Tonk Man - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:06:53 EST ID:uZwog1/t No.5945590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a bunch of guys that had a great year, like Pagano, Soberano, Sanson, Garza Jr or, debatably, even Zeuxis. It's just that I didn't feel like any of them really put together a resumé that would justify saying that 2017 was 'their' year. When I was thinking about the best matches of the year, all the usual suspects had one or two matches in contention:
>Rush vs Park/Rush vs Diamante Azul
>ZSJ vs Negro Navarro/Daga, depending on taste
>Taya vs Ayako
>various Lucha Underground matches

None of the wrestlers in these matches strung together a truly remarkable run, or maybe I'm not remembering the year properly. Soberano Jr. and Sanson had a bunch of really good matches, but their rise to the top is still going on and putting them as wrestlers of the year feels weird.

Best Feud suffers from a similar issue - there simply weren't that many long-running feuds. Crash quickly abandoned the Rebelion faction thing, AAA booking outside Wagner/Psycho was erratic, CMLL decided on their Aniversario main event 2 months before it happened, Wagner/Park understandably took a backseat.
Dragon Kid - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:05:34 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5946690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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live from Arena Puebla it's pro wrestling
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:38:53 EST ID:je49CviX No.5947729 Report Quick Reply
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Results from AroLucha’s two shows - http://thecubsfan.com/cmll/events/shows/00070000/00070585.php and http://thecubsfan.com/cmll/events/shows/00070000/00070590.php

>The 1/19 show was the first live show for the group, and the ticket situation looked a little dire going into the night. This group is doing a lot of local media the day of the show. The turnout doesn’t look bad., maybe half full in a small building, about what you’d expect for a new group. The show sounds like it was fun, and they announced a return date here of 04/28 with Rey Mysterio.
>The 1/20 show was said to be fun. They announced a return here on 04/29 with Rey, Penta and Fenix. The promotion itself is back on 02/16 in Beaumont and 02/17 Humble, Texas. Talent list for those: “Blue Demon Jr, Juventud Guerrera, Super Crazy, Chavo Guerrero Jr, Sammy Guevara, John Hennigan, James Storm, Shane Hurricane Helms, Low Ki, Demus, Mascarita Dorada, Taya, MVP, Maximo, Lady Apache, LAX, Steve Pain, Laredo Kid, Keyra, Xtra Talented, Low Rider, Thunder Rosa”.

And here’s the results for The Crash - http://thecubsfan.com/cmll/events/shows/00070000/00070134.php

The suspension appears to be an angle. It’s not 100% clear, but all the logic points that way. Tijuana does have a commission and it has actually suspended high profile people in the past. They usually don’t do it while the show going on, and the Yellow Rebellion guys still wrestled in the main event anyway. Nothing they did really suggested they should be suspended for a year. Plus, the Ultimo Ninja/Garza Jr. split seems like an angle (which could’ve only happened if they were suspended), and The Crash happened to be streaming on Facebook with two different feeds when they didn’t really stream the rest of the show.

>It would be obvious bad news if the lead rudo group for The Crash couldn’t wrestle in the cities home promotion until 2019, but that just seems unlikely. It would be good news if they’re back to actually running angles here again.

>Bestia looked like he needed stitches after the main event, which turned into a hardcore match.

>Zona Ruda has seven good and bad things about the show. Charlie Haas did not look good. Rey Horuz did look good.

>The Crash were recording yesterday’s show for their TV show, which does not yet have an announced start date or a network. Roberto Figueroa was doing the announcing, and wrote that four of the six matches had money thrown in. The building looked pretty full on video. The Zona Ruda review mentions there was a lot more time between matches than usual and the show ran long as a result.
Danshoku Dino - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:49:41 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5947873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hold up why were Kojima & Rush even mad at each other?

They were BFFs just 2 months ago.
Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:07:35 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5948365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kojima was supposed to get Rush some p-bandai release kits so Rush could curry favor with Stone Cold, but then Rush got to Japan and found out Kojima didn't do shit
Jake The Snake Roberts - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:58:47 EST ID:U3yYrf7I No.5948440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>working an ingobernables cabron out of some gundams
no wonder juice is proud to have him as senpai
Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:05:13 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5948446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Arena Mexico Tuesday Nights is imminent!
Test - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:05:44 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5948448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>In the 90s, a character named Santo Negro emerged as a rival for El Hijo del Santo. The supposedly “evil” version of El Santo was dressed in black and came from the jungles of South America. El Santo’s family was pissed and believed that their brother had something to do with the scheme. The family went to the promoter responsible to demand , out of respect for El Santo, that the gimmick be done away with, and Santo Negro was never seen from again.
comeback when
Test - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:13:52 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5948621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rikishi - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:57:50 EST ID:ZuDV6nfN No.5948675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Im watching Fantasticamania and some unmasked guys would wear masks, which I assume they lost at some point. Do wrestlers keep wearing their masks occasionally after losing them or is this an exception for the jap crowd?
Brodus Clay - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 06:48:46 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5948902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that's a pretty fucking big nono in mexico
so probably just for the crowd like you said
who was wearing a mask? i didn't watch fantasticamania this year other than the dragon lee brothers match
RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 07:57:45 EST ID:uDw84vvX No.5948933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's not uncommon for a luchador who lost his mask to wear it to the ring when abroad. Especially if he recently lost it because no one would know. It's done in Mexico too but only if the wrestler hasn't worked in country for a long while, but you can't keep it on after the bell rings.
The mask rules do not apply outside of Mexico or Latin America about donning a lost mask which is why guys like Rey who had their masks lost while in WCW started to wear them again once they left because that didn't count.
Also a unmasked Luchador can take a new mask outside of Mexico.
Volador (Sr.) lost his mask but wrestles as Super Parka everywhere else.
Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:48:06 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5948964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the Aztec Gods cannot cross the territories of the Tiki Gods of Hawaii, much less enter the realm of the Shinto Gods of Japan, so the Aztec Curse can't affect you if you wear your mask over there
Mad Man Pondo - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:32:37 EST ID:rd922YnK No.5949432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well, i was not the only one who noticed that
Raisha Saeed - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:33:53 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5949496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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cubsfan mentioned him looking really shitty in one of the tour's matches and 'only realizing it at the end' so I'm guessing this is it.
Fun fact: he's the son of Hombre Bala, one of Atlantis' mask match conquests. And cousins with Rey Bucanero, but that has fewer hereditary implications.
>that's a pretty fucking big nono in mexico
Arena Mexico doesn't seem to mind every time they wear it to the ring.
Also veterans like Mano Negra (another Atlantis conquest). And rebrands like Pierroth & Sagrado. TBH the more I look into lucha lore the less liable I am to believe the Tijuanan stabby-alley stories.
Raisha Saeed - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 11:04:13 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5949981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Protect this man.
Reno - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:27:50 EST ID:x2UcyQRw No.5951077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm still sad we didn't get that Terry Funk / Mil Mascaras match a couple of years ago.



AAA has a bunch of short promos about the show that'll be live on twitch tonight
RegalMachine RGM-79 !Ro1w0thJao - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:39:14 EST ID:uDw84vvX No.5951079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TBH the more I look into lucha lore the less liable I am to believe the Tijuanan stabby-alley stories.
Mexico (and Japan) are still running on kayfabe.
So there's not a lot of transparency so they can get away with more made up stories.
I'd hate to be the cunt who writes a tell all revealing all the secrets of lucha. He ain't gonna last long.
Ares - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:25:25 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5952612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>in Ruleta de la Muerte (Spanish for "Roulette of Death"), tag teams face off in a single elimination tournament, but unlike traditional tournaments it is the losing team that advances. The losing team in the final match must wrestle each other in a Lucha de Apuestas match, where either their mask or their hair is on the line. They can feature 4-16 teams, most of them created for the tournament. A 1998 show featured no additional matches outside the 15 tournament matches and the Lucha de Apuesta match.
Yo' that's a really cool idea. [SWEATING INTENSIFIES] for a whole show. Why the hell'd CMLL stop doing them? Shit I could get into IWRG if this' a regular attraction.
Lucha secrets like what? Where they get their lich-like eternal youth?
Daffney - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 20:44:55 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5953816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Maximo in the AAA Zone
>Rey Mysterio jr in the WWE Zone
Midajah - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 20:47:37 EST ID:i2L7x/5J No.5953833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My only hope is that we still get the big 6-man The Crash booked for next month. I need some CIMA/Rey interaction, dammit
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:45:25 EST ID:dNfghtqN No.5957198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>On his Facebook, Drone posted a message addressing his out of sorts performance on FantasticaMania. Drone’s explanation was that he did not wrestle drunk, but that he was having trouble sleeping in Japan the entire tour, took some medication to help, and it left him in a bad shape the next day. He was apologetic about what had happened, though he also still ended with a hashtag. The post was either deleted or hidden to friends only within an hour; there’s a screen cap here.

>I’m skeptical about this story; it feels like something Drone made up once he got home and everyone started asking him about it. Drone was able to post a selfie on Facebook from Japan after that bad match, and yet think to write anything about his “illness” until much latter. It comes off as a guy who thought maybe he got away with a bad day, didn’t realize until later how he didn’t really get away with it, and scrambled to make something up. And, really, whether it was alcohol or strong medicine or something else entirely, Drone still screwed up.

>(Other people screwed up too. Most of the responsibility is on Drone. Some of it’s on the people who thought he was OK to get in the ring when he clearly wasn’t. It’s fortunate that it just was foolish instead of dangerous. It probably would’ve been very tough to tell Puma or Disturbio that they would have to sit out of a match in Korakuen Hall because of Drone’s screw up. It’s also what NJPW or CMLL should’ve done. Even after the fact – how did someone not grab Drone and escort him past the interview set so he didn’t embarrass himself and the promotion any more? Even if he somehow hid his condition before the match, it was pretty clear by the end of it. I know the instinct is to let Drone expose himself for his mistakes, it just wasn’t the best thing for CMLL.)

>Drone’s performance has now made it all the way to Record and is being picked up by Mexican news sources today. CMLL’s pretty good at ignoring the rest of the world, so it’s far from certain that anything will come of all of this.

Well Drone fucked up though I didn't really notice anything off about him wrestling on the tour. Did anyone else?

I mean they can wear them outside of Mexico though they usually take them off before or during the match or another wrestler pulls it off.
Jinsei Shinzaki - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 09:02:19 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5959884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tank Abbott - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 09:57:14 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5959920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He botched spots, very noticeable if you saw typical Drone spots.
There's also the post match interview where he honestly sounded drunk as fuck, but that could be some very strong sleeping pills at work.
Rocco Rock - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:09:26 EST ID:x2UcyQRw No.5959935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah I can honestly believe a bad mix of jet lag and sleeping pills

had Drone worked Japan before?

circadian rhythm is a hell of a drug
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:51:13 EST ID:kLfdqxM7 No.5959955 Report Quick Reply
Yeah I guess I didn’t notice it in the ring but it was more noticable with that interview.

It was his first Fantastica Mania tour to my knowledge. Was he the one that replaced Negro Casas or was that someone else?
Ian Rotten - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 11:00:44 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5959961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
See >>5949432
Ian Rotten - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 11:02:02 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5959963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Someone else, someone NJPW. Rocky IIRC.
Rocco Rock - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 12:38:25 EST ID:x2UcyQRw No.5960032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hype af

time for two windows of action at once!
Roxy Astor - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 14:03:46 EST ID:rMyQSNRI No.5960089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Roxy Astor - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 14:40:54 EST ID:NU4M09DC No.5960109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the two biggest promotions in Mexico stream weekly live shows in HD for free

How can other countries even compete?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 00:18:20 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5960432 Report Quick Reply
AAA had a press conference today before tonight’s show but there’s some big news in terms of its deal with Twitch and trying to do shows outside of Mexico:

>The AAA press conference went over AAA’s current media picture. AAA starts this week on Space channel in Mexico and other Latin America commercials. (People watching the channel today told me they started seeing commercials for it.) They also remain on Televisa, and it appears the same episodes will air on the same weekends on both channels, just with different sets of announcers since the main announcers are at least technically Televisa employees. There’s no indication AAA is leaving Televisa in the short term. In the long term, it’s safer to have options. (Also: having a show without Televisa involvement might make it possible for them to sell that show in the US outside of Televisa’s networks.)

>AAA is also going strong into Twitch, so much so that the sort of people who read this site might really not need to pay attention to their TV situation going forward. Their current Spanish language channel will go live 24/7 starting with Friday’s taping in Toluca, and the plan is to air every taping live in the same way CMLL currently does on YouTube. (CMLL has an advantage of taping from the same locations all the time; AAA will be traveling around and I wouldn’t hold it against them if some of these didn’t turn out to be actually live due to internet issues.) AAA says they’ll be running thirty one events in total, which would be up three from the last few years.

>When the Twitch channel is not streaming a live event, they’ll be streaming classic content from the AAA archives. This is going to be really exciting if AAA digs into shows from it’s first couple of dates, featuring some big names and matches which might have never been seen since they first aired. It’ll be less exciting if it’s more recent content already available on YouTube. They did go way back in the archive for TripleMania’s marathon, so this has the potential to be interesting and will at least keep the channel warm.

>This year is the Gira de Conquest for AAA, and went over their plans for their world conquest:

>February & March: Lucha Underground
>August & September: Colombia & Panama
>September & November: United States
>October: Japan (probably the Lucha World Cup)

>and there are talks about going to England, but no date has been agreed upon

It’s cool that AAA’s Twitch channel is gonna be 24/7 like Impact’s and that they’ll stream their shows on there like CMLL already does.
Brodie Lee - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 00:20:58 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5960434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
live AAA is so great
Jamie Keyes - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 07:56:41 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5960555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The sass in infectious.

BTW could someone pls fill me in on Hijo de Fantasma lore? I tried getting into AAA just as he was getting hyped up and he didn't leave much of an impression; in retrospect that might've been on AAA more than him because apparently this mask match really is a big deal and he's actually a 15 year vet? He's just been that guy with the cool LU gimmick to me.
The Warlord - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 15:36:30 EST ID:VPJqxJj9 No.5960771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's not much 'lore' around HdF - he was a CMLL guy and unhappy about not getting pushed enough until he jumped to AAA and becamed part of El Consejo, their ex-CMLL stable. Back in like 2014, when AAA were seriously thinking of pushing a cruiserweight division, HdF was one of the centerpieces along with then-Bengala (Ricky Marvin). In 2016 he tried to get away from AAA and booked into WWE or American indies, partly because he speaks English fairly well, but it didn't work out (there were some contract intircacies involved iirc) and CMLL wouldn't take him back, so he pretty much doesn't have options beside making it in AAA. Now he's an upper midcard guy who's making the best out of what he has. If he's ever going to be a big star, it's outside of AAA, but I wouldn't bet on it happening.

By the way, ELITE is coming back with familiar names like Cibernetico and Golden Magic. Back when they started, they were a much-needed breath of fresh air, but now, with both AAA and CMLL streaming weekly, I'm not sure if there's a huge void for them to fill outside of booking certain wrestlers. It's not like we're gonna see Bobby Lashley or Teddy Hart in Arena Mexico, let alone Rush, who seems to be fine with the occasional Crash appearance. Still, if it means we're gonna see Senorita Cometa again, I'm all for it.
StarBuck - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 12:49:32 EST ID:S79NjRwe No.5961334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So Rush and Mistico are tweeting about some dude having died, attaching pic related. I have mask blindness; does anyone know who that is?
Amish Roadkill - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 14:00:07 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.5961368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
black silver jr
freelancer son of a freelancer
drove off a freeway into a ravine
StarBuck - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 15:38:01 EST ID:S79NjRwe No.5961427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks. Looks like he didn't work much outside Acapulco, but it obviously sucks anyway. QEPD
Sunny - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:50:46 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5962988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>oh boy home from work I guess I'll put on some AAA twitch for background noise and
>-ARDCORE COUNTRY [music video intensifies]
apparently they killed some time on Sin Limite at some point with the music video
Psicosis - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:52:18 EST ID:U3yYrf7I No.5962989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
aw fuck. rest in peace boo boo
Buddy Rogers - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 16:32:11 EST ID:qZKHzbuD No.5964868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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dont you ever fucking tell me he isnt a legend
YOSHIHIKO - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 16:45:12 EST ID:x2UcyQRw No.5964878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>pretending to be Dave The Clown
uhh, okay
Marshe Rockett - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 10:00:57 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5966814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Atlantis says Ultimo Guerrero’s hair is not equal to his mask. He won’t be doing the match. He still wants masks, and said the six months out felt like 80 years.


Also this is a thing that's happening & it's making me moist.
Chiva IV - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:36:33 EST ID:8BKKUtoA No.5966871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Atlantis would know what 80 years feels like.
Hulk Hogan - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:21:36 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5966991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shark Girl - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:05:48 EST ID:QPec61ig No.5967066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is frightening!
Marshe Rockett - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:27:11 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5967081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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first thought
Eddie Kingston - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:04:37 EST ID:6onSACOy No.5967103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is that real? I'm shook.
Chiva IV - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:39:16 EST ID:8BKKUtoA No.5967129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>mfw Mex indies are reeling us in with good wrestling so they can turn us all into furries
Jimmy Wang Yang - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:40:33 EST ID:LXCwLPHU No.5967131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Isn't there video of the two guys blowing each other
Gorilla Monsoon - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:42:00 EST ID:zUXB+Pah No.5967132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>tfw El Toro Blanco & Dragon Lee feud over El Furaffinity
Jim Cornette - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:01:48 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5967682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wait how does this apply to re-brands?
I thought L.A. Park's name was common knowledge because of the AAA lawsuits. Turns out he lost 3 different fuckin' masks before getting the mr skeletal gimmick to begin with. He's explicitly defended his 'mask' 19 times since, why is this allowed?
Drago too. He was a maskless AAA midcarder. Then they give him the Drago mask and... apparently he defended it on PPV just last October? What's the draw? You've seen his face already. I get doing it for heat shit Ishii did that over in Japan but why'd beloved heroes be so dishonorable? Even Rey's only put his mask on the line a grand total of once in the 2 decades since WCW, and it was treated more like Angle's medals or Tatsu's action figure anyway.
Naomichi Marufuji - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 11:49:18 EST ID:x2UcyQRw No.5967736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Tirantes The Next Generation
GAMI - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 12:58:00 EST ID:qZKHzbuD No.5967775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you can put on a new mask if you get a new gimmick antonio pena was very fond of it

it used to happen more often
Bam Bam Bigelow - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:15:06 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5968014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tapings for Lucha Underground Season 4 are happening very shortly and they have a new location this time.
WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:31:18 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5968032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Awwww... I'm gonna miss the Temple, that place had such a great atmosphere from the show.

Here's an image of the new location in progress, Uproxx did an article about it. Looks like it'll still fit the bill.
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 18:14:27 EST ID:8BKKUtoA No.5968069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That article claims that a full picture of the side that's to the back right in this one would constitute a spoiler. I'm fairly intrigued by that.
Kurt Angle - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 18:27:16 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.5968082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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it probably involves the authority figure for S4, like maybe Mil's throne is over there.
WrestlingTheSport - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:14:09 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5968123 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I kinda wish they had a spot reserved up there for the world champ where they can just do whatever during the show.

Matanza would pace back and forth in a cage, Johnny Mundo would have interviews and photo shots going on, Sexy Star would Nobody Gives A Fuck, stuff like that. The Mil Muertes Throne was so goddamn badass.
Edge - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:26:59 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5968131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I want to see Penta on a throne of broken humerus bones.
Crossbones - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 06:51:56 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5968519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I thought the State Commission took it seriously enough to suspend people who re-mask?
And what about the actual fans? How are they expected to care? CMLL's first attempt at the Mistico gimmick was El Sagrado, a rebarnd of a guy who'd already lost his mask in CMLL itself. Why the fuck did they think he'd get over as a super-face when the entire persona's founded on failure & shame? FFS bloody Chikara did better than that with the Equinox/Gerrard angle.
Michael Kovac - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:10:27 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5968530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'd like to, ma'am, but they're too damn good!

Let them mask, boys.
Let the men mask.
Nikki Bella - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:59:17 EST ID:e37Ihlji No.5968582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
From the looks of it it seems Penta is staying. Is it true there's no more Dario? What's the point of LU without RING THE BELL
Nick Jackson - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:03:19 EST ID:x2UcyQRw No.5968643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this why we've had Penta Blue on the indies?
Nick Jackson - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:33:53 EST ID:x2UcyQRw No.5968725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Owen Fart - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:55:56 EST ID:zwoGFhDe No.5968742 Report Quick Reply

Granddaddy Wagner says getting all these fresh fits off. Fresh as hell.
Black Terry - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:39:26 EST ID:sy/G3m0L No.5968775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>You will never be a sexy latino mature man.
Crossbones - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:53:21 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5968785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you make kemonito sad /wooo/
Jonathan Barber - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 18:32:27 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5971247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Psycho/Maximo/Mascara vs Dave and The Traitor Clowns
totally nothing gay happens in this, really
Sojournor Bolt - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:13:17 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5971921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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holy shit this is a great pic cubsfan had up top on his site
Gran Akuma - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:04:20 EST ID:VK6af0zS No.5971963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
whats the dust?
Charly Malice - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:06:58 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5971969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's booze, you can see the crushed cup in hornboi's hand.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 13:37:54 EST ID:nV0zkZP9 No.5972714 Report Quick Reply
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Look what I found yesterday
Jaki Numazawa - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:13:52 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.5972755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I see them on ebay a lot when I'm looking for lucha crap to buy
they're cute
John Bradshaw Layfield - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:32:23 EST ID:AumAAP4c No.5972776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I saw those at Kohls once and I regret not buying one. Only time I've ever been in Kohls but I may have to go back now because you are making me want one.
Cassandro - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:34:49 EST ID:AfZKhKgj No.5972779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
one of my co-workers got me the one on the right, he found it at a gas station in texas
Jonathan Barber - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:35:11 EST ID:8BKKUtoA No.5972781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mid one is the coolest, but also the least practical. You have zero leverage with that thing.
Ivan Koloff - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:43:29 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5976436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
AAA is probably doing a live show soon
Ivan Koloff - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 18:46:19 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5976511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lacey Von Erich - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 19:27:34 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5976577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dank hd rain wrasslin
Luther Reigns - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 19:55:31 EST ID:qZKHzbuD No.5976606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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cubsfan starting to believe
Lacey Von Erich - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 20:01:35 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5976619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dave The Clown is real
Lacey Von Erich - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 20:13:26 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5976643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh shit Hijo Viking brought his guild
Lacey Von Erich - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 23:29:54 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5977152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:31:20 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5977272 Report Quick Reply
Shit I forgot to make the thread for this tonight. Hope it was a good show. I know Rey de Reyes is next week but we'll have it on in /wooo/tube.
The Jackyl - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:10:50 EST ID:XrATDy64 No.5977741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LU Season 4 spoilers so far

Lucha Underground filmed the first episodes of its fourth season for the El Rey Network over the weekend in Los Angeles. The following spoilers notes are courtesy www.SoCalUncensored.com's Steve Bryant. We thank them for their assistance and invite anyone looking for news and events in that area to visit their excellent website.

At the end of season three LU promoter Dario Cueto was shot in the chest by Winter. As he was passing out, he dialed his father on the phone. The season four tapings began with a 10 bell salute to Cueto, interrupted by his father, Antonio Cueto. His father is being played by the exact same actor that plays Dario, Luis Fernandez-Gil, but in makeup to make him look older. It is unclear if Antonio Cueto is a new character or is supposed to be Dario Cueto pretending to be his father. Antonio Cuerto then declared that there would be an Aztec Warfare match.

The Aztec Warfare match included most of the returning series regulars, but also had the return of Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Hernandez to the promotion. Tommy Dreamer and Jesse Godderz both made their Lucha Underground debuts. Pentagon Dark won the Aztec Warfare match and retained the Lucha Underground championship with the victory.

Dante Fox was not at the tapings, so he was replaced in the trios championship team by Son of Havoc. The current trios champions are Son of Havoc, Killshot, and The Mack.

There was a dark match with Aerostar facing Sammy Guevara and Jason Cade in their Lucha Underground debuts. Aerostar won the match.

Former WWE World champion Jack Swagger, under his real name Jake Hager, worked the second and third day of the tapings. He worked a dark match on the first set and on the third set, wrestled Sammy Guevara., defeating him and attacking him after.

Chelsea Green made her debut with Lucha Underground, working a four way agains with Jeremiah Crane (Sami Callihan), Marty “the Moth” Martinez, and Exolicious (NYC area talent Sonny Kiss) with Marty scring the win.

Mil Muertes defeated Crane and Fenix in a "Three Ways to the Grave" casket match at Friday’s tapings, where both Crane and Fenix were placed in separate caskets.

Lucha Underground champion Pentagon Black defeated Brian Cage on the third set of tapings.

LU is taping again from 3/1-3/3 and will be filming backstage segments for the new season through the week.

Jacob Novak - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:50:23 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.5977769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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jesse tho
Chessman - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:01:04 EST ID:y7e3Fbut No.5977778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I really don't like them adding more and more of the guys you'd see on any American indie. A big part of what makes LU special is the exotic lucha vibe; the more you water it down with generic American indie wreslters the weaker that flavor gets

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 26-02-2018 15:31:54
Chessman - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:01:54 EST ID:y7e3Fbut No.5977779 Ignore Report Quick Reply

HELP I forgot to spoiler and there's no edit button
Lacey Von Erich - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:11:55 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5977785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm okay with these.
WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:23:43 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5977792 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The thing about LU spoilers is that it's so hard to get a grasp on what the show will be like because 50% or more of it is backstage stuff and storylines.

Like, everyone was super up in arms over Sexy Star winning the belt, but it ended up being a logical storyline that actually made a lot of sense and was built to on TV properly. Granted there were a lot of problems with it, the main problem being Sexy Star, but it's a case where it played out in the spoilers terribly, but on TV just fine.

Fuck Sexy Star though.
Turbo - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:48:43 EST ID:7G8CpEaU No.5977807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Preface: I haven't read the spoilers, and I'm excited to experience a LU season without knowing what's going to happen in advance for the first time.

The dismissal of Mexican wrestlers in favor of whatever US indie rejects you can drum up is a disappointing development for me. A lot of these dudes are talented, and I'll be the first to say that Killshot/Fox was one of the best matches in Lucha Underground history. However, it's a style that is well-represented in multiple promotions today. What could make LU mark its influence beyond its 4 seasons would be making lucha libre style pervasive among a new group of fans, while opening it up to more international influences. If it's just going to be 'American dudes wrestle under masks' I'm not interested.
Rey Bucanero - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:54:26 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5977817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Tommy Dreamer, Chavo Guerrero, HERNANDEZ, Laurel Van Ness, Jessie Godderz, Jack Swagger
It doesn't sound *bad* per se but it's kind of hilarious that John Morrison and Sami Callihan will be working Impact and LU simultaneously alongside Tommy Dreamer who returns to Impact to feud with oVe
I'm surprised they brought back Hernandez considering how he left. And Chavo who just doesn't have the star power to justify the return after losing his "Loser Leaves LU" match with Mysterio

Sammy Guevara
He was poised to be the big breakout star coming out of the AroLucha pilot taping. It's kind of crazy how quickly some of the luchadors from the AroLucha taping have been scooped up by AAA and now LU. LOL Konnan.

The drama between AAA and Konnan and LU and AroLucha and Impact is nuts.
Mark Jindrak - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:04:23 EST ID:a3AxNr7j No.5977827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Impact spoilers in this post
CM Punk - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:55:33 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5977868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The season four tapings began with a 10 bell salute to Cueto, interrupted by his father, Antonio Cueto. His father is being played by the exact same actor that plays Dario
CM Punk - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:46:15 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5977927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So how comprehensive are the LOS masks?

You've got Rush's horns, Naito's eye, Sombra's tusk, the stable's symbol on the forehead... is the devil base a reference to anybody in particular? Does it represent the rest of LIJ? Don't Mascara and Pieroth get anything?
Johnny Grunge - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:24:27 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5979980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Some of this may already have been posted but...

> The new season of Lucha Underground, which will likely start airing in the late spring or summer, started taping on 2/23 in Los Angeles. The biggest news is that Luis Fernandez-Gil, who played Dario Cueto, is back, but not as Dario Cueto, but Antonio Cueto, made up to look like an old man, described as looking like Einstein, as the father of the now deceased Dario Cueto, who died in the final episode of season three. Dario appeared to be killed off in that episode, but with Lucha Underground, you never know. SoCal Uncensored had a lot of other news from the tapings. Antonio Cueto then set up the seasonal Aztec Warfare (Royal Rumble, except with pins, a hell of an innovative concept that you would think wouldn’t work but the first one was better than pretty much any Royal Rumble ever). Hernandez is back with the promotion, and also in the Warfare match were Chavo Guerrero Jr., who has returned after he lost a loser leaves forever match, Tommy Dreamer and Jessie Godderz. Pentagon Dark won, which is interesting, since he was one of the guys returning just to be written out and get out of his contract, unless they’ve managed to convince him otherwise.

> A lot of guys who are on this season are there with the agreement that they will get out of their seven-season contract if they agree to come back and get written out. There is even talk of creating a serial killer character to kill them off, like actually kill them off. Son of Havoc (Matt Cross) replaced Dante Fox (A.R. Fox) in the six-man championship team, teaming with Killshot (Shane Strickland) and The Mack (Willie Mack).

> Sammy Guevara and Jason Cade debuted. Guevara is notable because he was the first guy signed by Arolucha and told us that his contract didn’t allow him to do anyone else’s television, but he could work anywhere he wanted. Guevara is under a three-year Arolucha deal and Arolucha has the right to control his bookings. The deal was put together at the last second. Arolucha at first wasn’t going to let him do the TV until it was worked out between the sides. The feeling from Arolucha is that they have him under contract and he’ll get exposure on TV which will help his name when they tour with him and if they get TV he’ll have more of a name going in. He’s allowed to work anywhere, except television. Guevara and Cade debuted in a three-way that was won by Aerostar. Sonny Kiss debuted and beat Jack Evans

> On 2/24, Vanilla Ice was at the show. Joey Ryan was wrestling in a match and pointed him out. Jake Hager (Jack Swagger) debuted. He may be looking for new work with the uncertainty of Five Star. I think he’s being called Jack Hager instead of Jake. Hager beat Guevara and then turned heel after the match. Apparently there was an insane dive during this match and Hager didn’t quite catch him on it. Chelsea Green (Laurel Van Ness) also debuted in a four-way with Jeremiah Crane (Sami Callihan), Marty Martinez and Exolicious (Sonny Kiss), which Marty won. I believe Green isn’t signing a contract and is working here as a free agent. Crane is back even though he lost a casket match to Mil Muertes and in Lucha Underground, that’s supposed to mean you are dead

> On 2/25, Pentagon Dark retained the Lucha Underground title beating Brian Cage

> Referee Rick Knox also suffered a broken clavicle. Knox referees here and a number of Southern California groups including PWG. He’s likely out for the rest of the season

They are taping on 3/1, 3/2 and 3/3 this week

> Sexy Star is not back for this season because she is training full-time for a boxing match. Under real name Dulce Garcia, she has the biggest fight of her career on 3/24 in Saltillo, facing Loudes Juarez. Garcia is 2-0, but has only fought beginner level competition. Juarez is 22-2 and holds the WBC Fecombox Women’s Flyweight title.
Midajah - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:39:43 EST ID:mauZ9AnI No.5979991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you forgot sombra's mask eye and rush's tongue
Akebono - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:50:25 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5979995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
By tusk I meant both bits. And is the tongue really Rush's more than anyone else? Pretty sure Terrible's done tongue stuff. Tho if the tongue were Rush then the Toro Blanco horn's could be his dad's.
I figured they just bought a couple' Halloween masks and glued shit to them. If the base IS all custom-made too, what'd the top-horns and the jowl-bones be?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 10:15:30 EST ID:+OpZ6JMF No.5980678 Report Quick Reply
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The card for The Crash at WrestleCon is out now. Looks pretty good though I’d be surprised if this show was broadcast or even taped at all.
DJ Hyde - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 20:22:52 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5981004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>that fucking Vampiro interview
hahaha holy shit I want to live on Vampiro's world it sounds great

also from cubsfan
>Vampiro talks about running the TV tapings from backstage like a mad man. Vampiro notes they have viewers live from around the world so, during the taping, he’ll pop up in a box on a screen and start explaining everything what’s going on English, including burying things that aren’t going right.
>This has never happened. This is at least the second time Vampirio has said this is happening. Is this something he’s been pitching and it hasn’t gotten done? Is he under the impression it’s actually happening? Is this happening on Space and we’re not seeing it? Can it please start happening?
This sounds sorta like that time he called the AAA taping with JB and explained the backstory of Marty The Shaman
Gree Ant - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 21:19:58 EST ID:a5MY1ot+ No.5981029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>LA Park will be in town during Mania Week
Crimson - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 12:43:16 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5981386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Puma is an enviable man.
The Gobbledy Gooker - Sun, 04 Mar 2018 12:56:29 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5982125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>CMLL & Elite are done one again. CMLL posted a statement declaring they have no be participating in the ELITE Arena Azteca show and have no relationship with that network. They also said none of their wrestlers or buildings will be part of the show. This announcement was made just a few minutes before Friday night’s show. It follows a couple days of Azteca’s A+ network beginning to promote the new Arena Azteca show.

>ELITE has not responded to this news. Neither has Azteca. ELITE hasn’t said anything since their 02/11 show was canceled – they haven’t talked about “Arena Azteca” or the lineup that had Cage on it or when they might be back. CMLL never mentions ELITE by name in this most recent press release. It’s possible the breakup here is only between CMLL & Azteca and not ELITE & CMLL. It’s not clear if there is even an ELITE without Azteca, though.

>It doesn’t really matter who’s fault it was, because everyone looks silly. ELITE is the promotion who keeps falling apart. Azteca is promoting a TV show which may not exist. CMLL gave this partnership a big rollout about this three way alliance at the press conference, and either fell apart after one show or was never really done to begin with. CMLL’s now back to presenting shows on Sunday which they declared weren’t as interesting a concept as the ELITE shows, and burned a relationship with a TV network when they could really use the TV It’s embarrassing.
Jervis Cottonbelly - Sun, 04 Mar 2018 19:07:57 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5982283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jervis Cottonbelly - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 17:08:52 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5982745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I finally got off my ass and got the old version of Firefox to work with DTA, so I'll start posting rars of the month's AAA photos again
Jervis Cottonbelly - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 17:10:00 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5982748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I also started getting the CMLL photos
Scott Stanford - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:19:33 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5983008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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CMLL has good pics of the edecans too
Tiger Mask - Tue, 06 Mar 2018 21:15:49 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5983817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the new Worldwide Zone is literally at a theme park like Impact
what will happen when the elemental energies collide as The Unstoppable Force of Mexican Crowds meets The Immovable Object of Theme Park Fatigue!!!!
Dakota Darsow - Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:35:30 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5984937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lucha Underground spoilers: They taped 3/1 to 3/3 instead of 3/2 to 3/4 as originally scheduled because the Rey de Reyes AAA show was on 3/4

> Rich Swann was backstage at the tapings. Tommy Dreamer, Chelsea Green and Sammy Guevara didn’t work this set of tapings. A lot of stuff was apparently filmed out of order

> Notes from the 3/1 tapings. They taped two shows. The first show opened with Drago pinning Aerostar. Kobra Moon was out with Drago so they are still together. Drago won clean in a basic match. Matanza Cueto pinned Vinne Massaro in a comedy match. Massaro came to the ring and Antonio Cueto (Luis Fernandez-Gil, playing the father of the deceased Dario Cueto) came out. As great as he was at Dario Cueto, him playing the cartoon character of his father was described as “his awfulness and corniness cannot be overstated.” He said that he should fire Massaro for his performance at Aztec Warfare. But instead, he was getting him a pizza. So a pizza delivery showed up with a pizza and Massaro was happy. Cueto then said he had to make a sacrifice to the Gods.

> Matanza came out. Massaro did comedy for a minute before being squashed with the tour of the islands. Matanza sacrificed both Massaro and the pizza delivery guy. Antonio Cueto announced there would be a six-man match with the three winners then going on to battle for the Gift of the Gods championshp. It wound up as Dark Cuerno (El Hijo del Fantasma on Impact and in AAA) teaming with Dragon Azteca Jr. (Rey Horus everywhere else) & Dezmond X (Dezmond Xavier) beating Ivelisse & Son of Havoc (Matt Cross) & The Mack (Willie Mack). Good short match ending when Cuerno pinned Havoc. Killshot was watching at ringside. Mil Muertes then attacked and laid out Azteca, X and Cuerno. Killshot tried to make the save but Muertes laid him out as well.

> After they were all laid out, they had the three-way for the title where Azteca Jr. beat Cuerno and X. This was said to be a **** match that will probably be even better than that by the time it airs on television with all th editing in place. There were a few minor hiccups between the outstanding stuff that will be edited out most likely andmake it better. X did a standing 619 off the ringpost to a standing Azteca outside the ring. He also did a swanton off a structure over the entrance way that was every bit of ten feet off the ground, mabye more. Tons of dives and crazy spots. Azteca pinned X to win it. The crowd was going crazy throughout the match.

> The second show opened with Azteca Jr. out for a promo. He talked about winning the Gift of the Gods title and would cash it in for a title match at Ultima Lucha 4 in the main event. But since he said it was a long way until then, he would issue an open challenge. Nobody came out, so this may have been taped for a later episode. Daga, who had Kobra Moon in his corner, beat P.J. Black. It went long and the crowd wasn’t into it early but they did get the crowd later. It’ll probably be fine edited down. Daga refused to release his submission move and the rest of the snake people attacked Black. Johnny Mundo and Jack Evans came out for the save with kendo stick shots. There were some brutal shots.

> Kobra Moon did a promo. She needed multiple takes and would have to start from the beginning each time. This wasn’t goodlive. The idea was to tell a long story to lead to a four on four mach next week. Mundo kept trying to lead her and it wasn’t working. The stipulation seemed to be that if Mundo’s Worldwide Underground team lost than Mundo would have to be Moon’s slave, but if Mundo’s team wins, than Moon will grant Mundo any wish he wants. Killshot & Havoc & Mack retained the trios titles over the Rabbit Tribe when Killshot pinned London. Lucha Underground booking is that every season there is a trios championship team and they don’t get along. And Killshot & Havoc & Mack are those guys this season. Mack had the match won but Killshot tagged himself in to score the pin, an they argued after the match.

> Main event was supposed t be a tag match where Cage and Pentagon Dark would each pick a partner. Cage picked Cuerno. Pentagon then said that he didn’t’ need a partner and would face both of them by himself. Then he said he would beat them both and take their mothers next. Pentagon got early offense but ended up being beaten down and pinned. Cage destroyed Pentagon with a concerto after. In actuality, Cage never hit Pentagon’s head so it was nothing to be worried about. The show ended with Pentagon laid out and Vampiro looking worried

> The biggest angles were show on 3/3, most notably the wedding between Johnny Mundo and Taya, who are engaged in real life. The groomsmen were Joey Wrestling (Joey Mercury, who was Mundo’s first tag team partner in OVW and WWE as M&M) and P.J. Black. The bridesmaids were Cheerleader Melissa, using that name and not Mariposa under a mask, and Brenda, who is the women with Famous B. Famous B presided over the ceremony. Antonio Cueto had catered tacos. Matanza Cueto interrupted and head-butted Taya, who juiced and was thrown into the wedding cake and the table full of tacos was destroyed. Pentagon and Cage had a last man standing match for the Lucha Underground title. This was said to be a crazy match ending when Pentagon did a Canadian Destroyer off the ropes and put Cage through a table. The former Jack Swagger is now going by the name Jack Strong, and he beat Drago

> Eli Everfly, a Southern California independent wrestler, debuted in a three-way against Mesias and Marty the Moth Martinez. Martinez won. Everfly won the crowd over big-time. Azteca retained his Gift of the Gods title over Killshot. Matanza beat Joey Wrestling and then offered him as a sacrifice. They turned out the lights and he was gone, although the live crowd would see him roll out of the ring and go to the back. Rick Knox, who suffered a broken clavicle last week, was working, mostly as a referee outside the ring for a few matches.
Jacob Novak - Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:48:45 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5984945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sounds cool
WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 08 Mar 2018 12:23:36 EST ID:u+Yd2N4u No.5985045 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's always hard to get an idea of what LU will be like from taping results, because everything is taped out of order, edited, and all the storylines happpen backstage.
Diamond Dallas Page - Sat, 10 Mar 2018 09:23:01 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5986374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Looking for a Negro Casas post I saw years ago
>end up finding a carny sleaze list, with all the usual examples
>NJPW youngboi hazing, TNA check bouncing, NOAH yakuza funding...
>"Trainees in CMLL regularly get fucked in the ass by Negro Casas and Ultimo G."

...Where the fuck did THIS come from?
Dutch Mantel - Sat, 10 Mar 2018 09:38:36 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.5986388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Link to the list?
Brad Armstrong - Sat, 10 Mar 2018 12:57:33 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5986458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Brad Armstrong - Sat, 10 Mar 2018 13:02:47 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5986462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ah hell it's that tag rotate thing

nb for doublepost
Sniper - Sat, 10 Mar 2018 13:09:18 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5986466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think he's probably referring to the long wrestling sleaze list that used to be on taimapedia
The Blue Meanie - Sun, 11 Mar 2018 05:16:24 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5986820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If I said where I got it nobody'd give it the time of day.
Suffice to say it's not from a reputable source, but given how flippantly it was put among all the well-known stuff I presumed there's at least an event that sparked a rumor. Shoot interview or dirtsheet skuttlebutt or something.

Lookin' over it now. Casas' name shows up 4 times, they're all about sodomy and 2 of them about his trainees, so maybe that is it. But UG doesn't show up at all & IIRC half of the stuff on this list was compiled from pre-existing sources anyway.
Rocky Johnson - Sun, 11 Mar 2018 05:34:02 EST ID:YFqcYNOS No.5986827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wasn't the list on some Angelfire/Geocities site way-back-when?
The Blue Meanie - Sun, 11 Mar 2018 05:45:02 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5986836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yoshiko Tamura - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:48:56 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.5989159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
out at the mall at a nerd crap store yesterday
the clerk notices my Atlantis hat, asks if that's "uhhh, uhhh, that guy, uhh"
I expect he's going to say Rey Mysterio
"uhhh Pentagon"
I didn't expect that.
Mikey Whipwreck - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 12:40:36 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5989202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One day at a time.
Nikita Koloff - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 12:59:41 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.5989215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
*breaks your arm*
Dragonfly - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:41:58 EST ID:IKve3I1W No.5989811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cuatrero or Oro, who wins?
Prince - Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:44:40 EST ID:Ja5vzyMv No.5990235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Will someone be streaming Homenaje a Dos Leyendas on Friday night? It's an iPPV.
Mikey Whipwreck - Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:47:03 EST ID:mTufQcpd No.5990236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seconding this, someone please stream this
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:00:36 EST ID:zXgnKGqm No.5990239 Report Quick Reply
Yeah i think we’ll be able to.
Suwama - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:47:13 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5990935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's more Lucha Underground spoilers courtesy of the Wrestling Observer.
Notes from the 3/9 tapings.
> Marty the Moth Martinez won a six-way over Eli Everfly, Chelsea Green, Sammy Guevara, Cage and Royce Isaac. Good match with a lot of flying moves and dives, but nobody got that big of a reaction. The story was Martinez and Green working together until Martinez turned on Green and pinned Everfly to win the match.
> Killshot pinned Big Bad Steve. Son of Havoc was watching the match. There was some sort of a backstage angle as Steve came out selling an ankle injury. Killshot won with a stomp off the top rope. Killshot and Havoc started fighting after the match. Havoc unmasked Killshot (Shane Strickland) and Killshot ran to the back, covering his face.
> Pentagon retained the Lucha Underground title beating Hernandez in the main event. The story is that Johnny Mundo was supposed to be the opponent, but he was “injured,” so after Pentagon explained that in the promo, Hernandez came out as the replacement. Pentagon won and set up the arm break spot, when King Cuerno attacked Pentagon with a belt to stop him breaking the arm. Cuerno laid out Pentagon with a piledriver onto his title belt.
> Dragon Azteca Jr. beat Ivelisse to keep the Gift of the Gods title. Both wrestled as babyfaces but the crowd was totally behind Ivelisse. Azteca got the pin after a missile dropkick off the middle rope. After losing, Ivelisse stayed in the ring for that sympathy cheering thing that has become the thing where you stand after a loss, do the sad face, and eventually cheer. But I was told the match wasn’t good enough for that spot to work.
> Joey Ryan and Xolicious came out. Xolicious asked Ivelisse to join he and Ryan as a regular trio. Ivelisse stalled but eventually accepted.
> Next saw Jeremiah Crane (Sami Callihan) & Daga & Kobra Moon retain the trios titles beating Aerostar & Drago & Fenix. The whole thing was built around the return of Fenix. He walked slowly and was all in black. Since you couldn’t see backstage, it appeared that at some point he had died and now he was coming back. This happens all the time in Lucha Underground and it’s among the reasons the buzz is off the promotion.
> Jack Strong (Jack Swagger) came out first and cut a promo on Aerostar and Drago. He acted as if Fenix wasn’t even there. He wanted a handicap match against the two and said that bigger stronger wrestlers will always beat little Lucha guys. He dropped an F bomb during his promo. Good match. When Fenix would tag in, he would move slowly, beat everyone up, and then tag out. He refused to dive during a set up triple dive spot. Then he jumped off the apron so his partners couldn’t tag him in. Then, as Aerostar & Drago had the advantage, he came back in and superkicked Aerostar and Crane pinned Aerostar for the win. Fenix went to walk off. Melissa Santos, just weeks after giving birth, tried to stop him. She was trying to snap him out of what he had become. It looked like he was responding to her until she pushed him down.
> The final match taped was Mil Muertes going to a double disqualification with King Cuerno. Antonio Cueto (Luis Fernandez-Gil, the original Dario Cueto, playing the aging father of Dario Cueto) said that Cuerno earned a title match but that Muertes also deserved a title match and hated Cuerno. The winner would face Pentagon Dark for the title next week. They had a good brawl. Muertes doesn’t do much, but with presence, timing, psychology and the gimmick, he has good matches without doing much. Lots of fighting outside the ring. The ref kept trying to get them back in the ring so they both decked the ref and threw him into the seats. They brawled some more until the ref threw it out. Cueto came out and said that because of that, next week would be a Triple Threat for the title. Pentagon came out and appeared at the top of the temple and stared both men down

Notes from the 3/10 tapings.
> Cage beat Everfly.
> Fenix beat Aerostar.
> Azteca Jr. came out to attack Fenix, but Fenix who is now a dark character, injured Azteca. Azteca then had to defend his Gift of the Gods title against Martinez, who beat him for the title.
> Pentagon won the three-way over Muertes and Cuerno to keep his title.
> Martinez then cashed in his Gift of the Gods title to challenge Pentagon, and won the title with outside help from Chelsea Green.
> Jack Strong won a handicap nunchakus match over Aerostar and Drago.
> Matanza Cueto pinned Jack Evans. After the match, Evans became a human sacrifice and disappeared. This could be writing him out of the show.
> Crane & Daga & Moon beat Joey Ryan & Xolicious & Ivelisse. This could be a trios title match.
> The New Rabbit Tribe of Paul London & Killer Kross (Kevin Kross) & Mascarita Sagrada came out and looked like they wanted to challenge for the trios belts.
> Pentagon won a four-way over Muertes, Cuerno and a fourth person whose name we didn’t get. The Mack interfered and cost Muertes the match to set up a Mack vs. Muertes cage match

Notes from the 3/11 tapings.
> Mack beat Killshot via DQ when Muertes interfered. Muertes then beat Mack in their cage match.
> Martinez retained his Lucha Underground title beating Mariposa, who is his sister, played by Cheerleader Melissa.
> The Rabbit Tribe beat Ryan & Ivelisse & Xolicious.
> Killshot pinned Son of Havoc.
> Strong pinned Mundo. After the match, Matanza laid out Mundo. This set up a Human Sacrifice match with Mundo vs. Matanza for Ultima Lucha, which I believe is being taped next weekend. For what it’s worth, the last we heard was that Matanza (Jeff Cobb) was returning on the guise they’d give him his release after the season, while Mundo was expected to be staying.
X-Pac - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:37:35 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5990969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No idea. In lieu of any long-standing beef that's what makes it so interesting.
Did Cuatrero wanna be maskless all along but see a potential payday?
Did Oro look at BRoja's post-mask success and want a piece of it?
Apparently Roja-Gran was really obvious at the time, not this.
X-Pac - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:12:19 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5990984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>A lot of guys who are on this season are there with the agreement that they will get out of their seven-season contract if they agree to come back and get written out. There is even talk of creating a serial killer character to kill them off, like actually kill them off.
That's a cool thing to do and an cool way to do it.
>Crane is back even though he lost a casket match to Mil Muertes and in Lucha Underground, that’s supposed to mean you are dead
>Sexy Starr's got an upcoming boxing match
Is that gonna be streamed anywhere? Any chance /wooo/ could stream it?

Is there a missing set of spoilers? I'm not seeing where the Trios Titles change hands.
Danny Basham - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:21:47 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5991125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Jack Strong won a handicap nunchakus match over Aerostar and Drago

X-Pac - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:07:14 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5991148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Scott Lost - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 06:29:13 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5991857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cubsfan stuff:

>pic related

>scuttlebutt on LU drama:

>"One night before their mask match, Angel de Oro & Cuatrero headline Arena Aficion. It’s a trios match with Atlantis, Canek, Forastero and Sanson. They’re selling this around Canek being on the show, not the big CMLL feud, which tells you how long promoters feel about big CMLL feuds."
Hiroshi Tanahashi - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 07:18:39 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.5991887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
El Oriental - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:10:42 EST ID:YFqcYNOS No.5991924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Dark Fenix

El Hijo del Ice Cream - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 09:20:33 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5991959 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What even is the difference between La Casita and La Magistral?
Scott Lost - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 09:22:59 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5991961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know right?
Tony Chimel - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 10:55:51 EST ID:mTufQcpd No.5992006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Confirmed stream for tonight's show? Star time?
Antonio Honda - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 11:13:17 EST ID:Ja5vzyMv No.5992017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't know if there's a confirmed stream, but it starts at 9:30PM Central, one hour later than the usual Friday show
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:08:43 EST ID:+Ob4Ja8L No.5992179 Report Quick Reply
Yeah we’re streaming it. CMLL starts an hour later until April 1 when DST starts in Mexico.
Bobo Brazil - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:13:47 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5992832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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AAA in the tubes tonight?
Go Shiozaki - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:17:44 EST ID:qZKHzbuD No.5992834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:30:53 EST ID:rNHtVf+I No.5992848 Report Quick Reply
Yeah it’ll be in /wooo/alt. Thread will be up later.
Bobo Brazil - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:48:48 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5992862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh hey El Elegido and (a) Gronda
Horace - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:04:06 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5992871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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:( he looks like Ziggler
Worker Ant - Sun, 18 Mar 2018 19:22:07 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5993869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Owen Hart - Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:01:32 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5993904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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also I'm disappointed that they're setting up for Park vs Rey Wagner at Triplemania

I've seen that plenty of times. Park vs Roland would have been unique
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:35:06 EST ID:uOsGCfov No.5994314 Report Quick Reply
So here’s the stuff on AroLucha crowdfunding that Dave mentioned on WOR in more detail from cubsfan:

>AroLucha announced they’re selling shares of their company on crowd investing platform We Funder. People who invest will own part of the company, up to a total of 1/9th if their funding maxed out. Investors will get discounted merchandise, be allowed to participate in polls on the creative decisions and get to see the pilot. The funding campaign kicked off with AroLucha’s CEO Jason Brown selling the idea in an article Tennesssean, who’s been covering this promotion since the December TV taping. Brown pitches it as a chance for the fans finally to be heard and that Rey Mysterio is part of the ownership group.

>AroLucha’s timeline says Mysterio became part of the ownership group in November, the month before the first TV taping. I think that might mean Mysterio did not buy into the company, but perhaps instead was given stock or stock options as part of his deal for working that taping. On Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer said Rey’s involvement in AroLucha was overblown in the article, and that it would have no effect on his possible return to WWE.

>If you check out Wefunder’s FAQs, the first couple of answers tell you not to invest to make money, and only to invest if you can afford to lose every single dollar you invest. That applies to all start up companies, not just AroLucha. Even a completely sound investment of a start up is likely to fail. This is a start up entering into a competitive market, which they’re trying to pitch as completely open to make it attractive and instead appearing as if they don’t understand what they’re doing. This is a group planning on doing TV tapings in May or June which doesn’t have a TV partner, and who’s plan of running 10 house shows this year ended with 4.

>If you want to buy into a wrestling company for the novelty of saying you own part of a wrestling company and can afford to the $100 minimum investment, please do not let me stop you. I would no sooner stop the person who wants to spend that much or more on a replica championship title. I will simply advise you that your stock in AroLucha will probably end up being just as real as the replica championship belt, and lot less shiny.

>AroLucha needs to get at least $50K to get anything funded. They’ll need a heavy campaign to reach even that minimum. The Tennessean article did not actually mention the funding site, which hurts. The $100 minimum to fund is a lot higher than traditional funding sites like Kickstarter, which erases a lot of people kicking in in small amounts of money they’d wouldn’t mind losing on a project like this. Years ago, Masked Republic tried something similar with a TV show pilot, promoted it a lot, and did not come close to hitting their number. Jeff Katz’s Wrestling Retribution Project, a 2011 Kickstarter wrestling show, did get funded but never delivered it’s content. That show is the boogeyman in the room, the one scares people away from wanting to invest in projects like this. You can get into the weeds on that one – there’s a theory few fans were actually affected because it was actually a small amount of private investors who funded the thing and they were just using Kickstarter as a way to get buzz – but it’s still the example of what can happen with these sorts of projects.

>That buzz might actually be AroLucha’s buzz here. They need a TV deal, and they need a TV company to take them seriously. They’d like the money, the money will keep them going longer, but they’re selling themselves on social media impressions and the amount of people who they can claim will be tuning in once a network picks them up. Having a whole bunch of people who want to invest in their company is part of that TV pitch. Being able to promote Rey Mysterio as owner is another part of that plan.

>The big obstacle for AroLucha are the Harris Brothers. AroLucha is hyping how reactive they are to the fans, and they’re aware of Vince Russo’s perception to not mention him at all in their sales pitch. There are people with the promotion obviously paying attention to every time the word “AroLucha” is mentioned, which means they’ve seen “AroLucha Nazis” quite a few times by now. The Harris Brothers infamously had SS tattoos on their arms, and one wore an SS t-shirt on a TNA show, which are commonly associated with Nazis. Whenever that image is posted, you’ll also find people claiming those logos are also part of biker culture, and they had them covered up, and they became born again Christians and are definitely not Nazis. That may be true – I’d like it to be true, we could use less Nazis – but that’s something they probably need to say themselves. I’d guess they think only a few people on the internet know or care about this accusation and they don’t want to give it more attention by acknowledging it, but the only type of people who are going to invest money in this project are the type of people to very much know this accusation.

>I’m skeptical they’re getting the money either way, so maybe it’s not worth the hassle. But saying you’re not a Nazi should not be a hassle. They’re up to $1,590 in funding at least check, which is more than I got for my book, so I guess I have to respect that.
Bob Armstrong - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:52:35 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5994412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what a fucking mess, this was destined to fail
Lauren Brooke - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:40:13 EST ID:QMMP7Dxf No.5994446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
jesus chrsit dave, way to bury a promotion before they've even begun.
Justice - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:43:40 EST ID:ivIhMNZu No.5994449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not even by Dave.
Owen Hart - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:53:50 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5994458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this company's obviously a train wreck in the making but the Harriseses are the least of their concerns

also didn't Maximo wear an Aerolucha branded shirt early in his AAA run? did that ever materialize into something?
Equinox - Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:42:30 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5997302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I haven't been closely watching the youtube version of AAA for a bit
have they been muting Perros (the PDM theme) for a while?
Andy Leavine - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 07:01:29 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5997621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Scrapped Lucha Underground booking plans:
>DeJoseph and Roach mention Pentagon was originally scheduled to win the championship at Ultima Lucha 2. They knew how over Pentagon was at that point. They also were concerned they were short changing the Matanza character by having him lose in three months and turning him into LU version of WWE’s Kane (had a long lead up and impressive debut but got beat too soon and was considered a level below the championship guys.) They also felt there were more storytelling opportunities for Matanza as champion at that time and Pentagon could thrive as an Undertaker-like character who didn’t need a title for most of his feuds. They were always high on Pentagon, they even pitched Alberto on having Pentagon break his arm to explain why he wasn’t around for a set of tapings (Alberto didn’t see Pentagon as big enough star and said no), they just didn’t see him needing the title until it was obvious it had to happen at the end of Season 3 because everyone would flip out if someone else ended up with it.

>In other interviews, DeJoseph had hinted that there was another choice to win Aztec Warfare 3 beside Sexy Star but would always avoid saying who that pick was. In this interview, DeJoseph and Roach reveal it was Angelico. It turns out LU had lots of plans for Angelico that never worked out due to his injuries – he was originally going to end up in Worldwide Underground and instead ended up feuding with them due to his first injury. His second injury made him doubtful for Aztec Warfare, and Roach takes credit(/blame???) for pitching Sexy Star in that spot. Had Angelico won, he was also planned to lose it the following episode: the bit was never as much about Sexy Star or Angelico as it was making Johnny Mundo even more hated. Sexy Star lost the Gift of the Gods title to Mundo for that purpose, and they reasoned Mundo would be even more evil if he stole a title from her twice. Angelico was cleared by the time the match took place, but they had already picked the new direction at that point. Had they stuck with Angelico as champion, the Ultima Lucha 3 big matches were looking like Puma/Pentagon in a career vs career match and Mundo vs Angelico for the title. Angelico would’ve won it back, only for Son of Havoc to do the Gift of the Gods cash in on his friend and win the title to end the season.

>Again, there’s more in the interview worth listening to. I don’t want to give away, because it’s great audio and it sounds like it never escaped the writers room but, if you’ve ever idly wondered “what if they did a butterfly effect story with Aerostar’s timetravel powers?”, they explore that idea and it’s a lot of fun.

Robbie E - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 07:07:30 EST ID:YFqcYNOS No.5997624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Sexy Star being LU Champ was the better option

Where's your Aztec God now, memers?
Andy Leavine - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 07:46:49 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5997641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Of the options yeah I'd have made her champ for a week over Angelico. Not based on talent or effort, just simple straight-forward marketing.
Real durn shame it cost us that Son of Havoc angle tho. Ironic that he was Pentagon's opponent in the GotG ladder match.
Robbie E - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:31:40 EST ID:YFqcYNOS No.5997739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I want Son of Havoc + Angelico to stay 2getha 4 eva
Andy Leavine - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 12:53:40 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5997779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Man 2018 really has it in for Sobreano.
That would entail Angelico showing up.
Eve - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:08:37 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5998022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's not Angelico's fault that he's so fucking tall he hits his head walking in anywhere
MECHA Mummy - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 23:36:24 EST ID:mucKzjjt No.5999891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What does Frieza turning and becoming the new top tecnico mean for lucha? He's definitely a draw:
Mexico's massive infatuation with Dragonball is so endearing for some reason.

He hits his head because he keeps climbing on very tall things and falling off of them. I'd say he should have a talk with his friends about safety, but he's friends with Jack Evans so he'd probably end up doing crazier shit. God forbid Aerostar gets in his ear.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 08:39:48 EST ID:Ak4yacLw No.6002087 Report Quick Reply
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What a match this should be
Classy Freddie Blassie - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:01:39 EST ID:3I2GuG0T No.6002097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Pentagon will do 75% of the work in this match
>Park will do 24% and it will manage to be better and more over
>Blue Demon will do the rest
>Pentagon does the job because no way is he pinning either if those guys, and I doubt Park or Demon is willing to job to the other either; unless they just DQ Pants or Park for kicking Demon in the dick and/or murdering the ref
Wild ride this one is
Vickie Guerrero - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:23:51 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6002106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DBS-related: I saw a video of a crowd watching the whole episode, and during the "epilogue", the whole crowd was singing along to "Limit Break x Survivor" and after all the cheering for Goku and 17 (da real MVP), that was a beautiful moment. God bless people who express their feelings with that much sincerity.
Sakura Emi - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:09:31 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6002121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Pentagon does the job
Penta el 0 W does it again
Honky Tonk Man - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:40:21 EST ID:qZKHzbuD No.6002428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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mesias is going off on aaa in a press conference if thats your thing

god vs dorian at triplemania
Jun Akiyama - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 01:40:49 EST ID:qZKHzbuD No.6002905 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Riho - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 01:42:31 EST ID:rd922YnK No.6002907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
AJ would be proud
Johnny Rodz - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:25:39 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6002925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>yfw Mesias was one of AJ's opponents on his championship world tour
Johnny Rodz - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 04:07:02 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6002956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What is up with Ultimo & Terrible? I feel like I'm missing something.

My aunt saw them so this spot at Christmas and compared it to a pair of randy tomcats.
Bobby Lashley - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 10:04:52 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6003041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
MECHA Mummy - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:37:47 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6003925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
From this week's Wrestling Observer:

> The fourth season's Ultima Lucha was taped on 3/18 in Los Angeles. We don't have a lot of notes on it but the season ends with Jake Strong (Jack Swagger) being pushed as the big star as he first won the Gift of the Gods title on the show taped 3/17, and then cashed it in and won the Lucha Underground title from Pentagon Jr. Another key match was a human sacrifice match where basically the loser dies, where Johnny Mundo beat Matanza Cueto. So Jeff Cobb is now a free agent as for doing the ultimate job of death, he was released from the last three seasons of his contract. Pentagon had won the title from Marty the Moth Martinez on 3/18 in a match that was ridiculously bloody. It was so bloody that it may end up edited before it hits television. Vampiro attacked Pentagon after the match. They also introduced a new character, Vampiro's master, who was Australian Suicide. With Pentagon laid out, that's when Strong cashed in his Gift of the Gods belt and won the title.
Octagón - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:47:49 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6003931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>dem spoilers about Matanza

Tiger Jeet Singh - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:50:58 EST ID:xLmGD57f No.6003934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>that spoiler
Oh god. It's Swaggie Overtime!
Ivory - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 11:42:32 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6003965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
they're rapidly become those limey promotions that have no Mexican wrestlers on their "lucha" shows
between the transition to Random US Indies Underground, being Dorian Roland's cudgel, and generally being a dick to the entire internet about MUH SPOILERS the whole operation can basically eat my entire ass
Jun Kasai - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 11:43:20 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6003967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tfw I was in the crowd when he killed 5 Star Wrestling
>tfw I am right-this-moment watching the AWA DVD
>tfw the Hogan part just finished as I read this
I am SO FUCKING WORKED right now.
Zack Ryder - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 16:10:28 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6005033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Homero Simpson on Mas Lucha cutting a promo
Mucho Miedo - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 17:55:43 EST ID:bW1ZK/EW No.6005079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
La Familia Simpson is the best new wrestling dinasty.
Dustin Diamond - Sat, 31 Mar 2018 12:41:27 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6005548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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wtf i love pierroth now
King RIKI - Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:08:07 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6005657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
holy shit that raid gear
Dustin Diamond - Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:18:07 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6005663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is there a reason CMLL commentary randomly call Taven by his real name in the finishing stretch? Seconds after calling him by his work name?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 01 Apr 2018 02:17:42 EST ID:p+4GdK8b No.6006002 Report Quick Reply
I can’t believe Matt Taven won the title but maybe it’ll play into The Kingdom being banned from Supercard of Honor.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 20:55:48 EST ID:p+4GdK8b No.6009465 Report Quick Reply
So what’s gonna happen to Mesias now that he’s gone from LU and AAA?
Headbanger Trasher - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 20:59:30 EST ID:a5MY1ot+ No.6009468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He can probably make a legally distinct mask and get American indie bookings as "Mil Mesias" or some shit and work for The Crash. Honestly I want Mesias and LA Park to have a bloody brawl somewhere on the Mexican indie scene more than anything.
Phineas I. Godwinn - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 07:06:57 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6009699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's this about Santo in the lolWWE hall of fame?
Sojournor Bolt - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 07:14:30 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6009704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Legacy Wing. Basically a slideshow for "big historical names we sorta feel obligated to have in but aren't attached enough to for a solo induction".
He makes sense, it's the other names that're odd. I was gonna make a thread, thanks for the reminder.
Phineas I. Godwinn - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 07:17:52 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6009707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That pic makes me think Darkstalkers needed a Santo knock-off.
Sojournor Bolt - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:15:47 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6009737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And once again, thanks for the reminder. Totally spaced. Bloody Zack and his making Negro Navarro look like a novice on the mat...
Aika Ando - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 12:40:17 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6009894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Estrella Divina with Umbrella gear
Aika Ando - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 12:44:39 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6009899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rey Escorpion accidentally stabs the ring with the Rey de Reyes sword
Aika Ando - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 12:48:15 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6009903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Aika Ando - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 12:50:33 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6009905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 00:36:49 EST ID:p+4GdK8b No.6010702 Report Quick Reply
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LU season 4 season premiere announced
Chris Masters - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 00:48:12 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6010716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My dick is now diamonds.
Bob Sapp - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 02:55:27 EST ID:MYzf/VkS No.6010832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thank you Pimp C-Higgy-Jiggy nana na na na nana
Road Warrior Hawk - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 14:33:43 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.6011280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Am I reading cubsfan twitter feed right that Penta and Fenix have crossed the line and joined Impact Wrestling?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 14:47:43 EST ID:p+4GdK8b No.6011308 Report Quick Reply
Here’s the results from The Crash’s WrestleCon show - http://www.wrestling-news.net/crash-live-at-wrestlecon-2018-results/105434/

We’re showing it now in http://taima.tv/r/morningwoood

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 07-04-2018 14:52:37
Sirelda - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 15:19:39 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6011345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is there a ddl or anything for just LA Park's match?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 11:24:11 EST ID:p+4GdK8b No.6012705 Report Quick Reply
Here’s the link for the show if you want to look - https://pastebin.com/aknfPnYy
Scott Armstrong - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:04:18 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6016803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not him, but thanks Higgy!
Vito - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:18:02 EST ID:XrATDy64 No.6019786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Angelico tweeted the following:

I would like to announce that I have decided to part ways with Lucha Underground. I would also like to say thank you to everyone at the company for the pleasure of the last three seasons.
Now it is time to take another leap of faith. pic.twitter.com/7Lp1iBRgJU
— Angelico (@AngelicoAAA) April 11, 2018

>Jack Evans also announced he has parted ways with Lucha Underground:

proper spelling this time! I have also parted ways with lucha underground https://t.co/Err8ahP00c
— Jack Evans (@JackEvans711) April 11, 2018
Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:11:28 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6021786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So this is Rick Rude.

That mask looks awful familiar.

Anybody got some insight behind why?
Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:15:21 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6021791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also in trying to find a date for it I discovered this.

Rick Rude's other masked persona. "The Phantom".

Between the colors & the name something's gotta be up.
Ed Ferrara - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:42:34 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6021803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
maybe he needed some one-off masks so they got some fan masks because they're cheap?
Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:35:49 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6021837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You misunderstand: why's the mask look so much like one that didn't come along for another ~15 years?
7ven - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:47:32 EST ID:H8DwDQg7 No.6021848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lots of masks have these feathersymbols since it looks like one of the inka headdresses. Plus it might one of his dads mask it looks similar
Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:56:01 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6021854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They're feathers? I thought they were lightning bolts...
In any case, it's the pattern & the colors too, not just the tusks.
Then there's >>6021791, c'mon. "Phantom" & "Shadow" are synonymous.
7ven - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:31:56 EST ID:H8DwDQg7 No.6021878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
like i said his sombras dad was active as brilliante and had similar mask could be a fan mask of that
Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:49:21 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6021886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Been lookin' into that since last posting. The pattern's taken wholesale from his dad & uncles (Las Gemas Del Ring) but the coloration's completely inverted. I cant find a single example of any of them wearing a black mask. The very name "Brillante" means "Sparkly" - Sombra himself wore a white glittering mask until he changed his name from Brillante Jr to Sombra.
Jazz - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:39:19 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6022576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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In digging for answers I found this which is generally neat & worth sharing.
Lucha smarks, circa 2008. Google tranlate advised:
>all that hate for OG Mistico
>all that scorn for flippy shit
>all that mourning gimmicks
We're not so different.

The video that started the thread, featuring youngboi Sombra fucking dying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y0ob1dXfWM
Matt Sydal - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:09:23 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6023306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Lucha Central reports AAA & the Lucha Brothers agreed to a deal where AAA will allow them appear on other TV shows as long as they wrestle as AAA’s Pentagon Jr. & Fenix on those shows. AAA will be allowed to license and market those names, and will not be suing over the other names. The Lucha Brothers will continue to use the Rey Fenix and Penta el Zero M names on non-TV shows.
>AAA officially announced Verano de Escandalo will take place June 3rd in Plaza de Toros La Monumental in Monterrey, and will include Rey Mysterio Junior. AAA says more details will be announced later.
>Mysterio last wrestled for AAA in 2006 at the special Tokyo Star Battle show. It was one of a handful of matches he worked for AAA on big shows that year, mostly Lucha Underground related. This too is a big show, the bullring likely being the second biggest building AAA will run all year. AAA could use people the level of Mysterio to sell tickets for this June show, since they don’t appear to have anything planned the level of the Fantasma/Texano match from March. This does not appear to be a full time return for Mysterio, just a selected dates. It does not drastically affect Mysterio’s chances of returning to WWE; he’s wanted a part time deal there all along so he could work occasional outside dates like these, and this shows he hasn’t changed his mind on that yet. Likewise, it does not prevent Rey Mysterio from working for the Crash, except he’ll probably still be working only a limited out of dates and picking up a few from AAA means doing less elsewhere.
>I’ve been thinking back about this Tweet from about a month ago
> For Lucha fans today was a great day..Soon u will know why…#ProjectResurrection
> — Konnan (@Konnan5150) March 17, 2018
>Konnan didn’t explain what he meant, and it didn’t appear connected to Aro Lucha or any of his other known projects. I’ve got an idea or two.
>Rey Mysterio’s post-WWE work usually involves Konnan. Konnan is also close with the Lucha Brothers. He worked with all three in AAA, in Lucha Underground, in The Crash and had them in the Arolucha TV pilot. In the past, Konnan’s tried to make a deal with AAA to end the legal threats and allow Penta & Fenix to work freely. We now know a has been made. The Crash cut ties with Konnan because they believed that deal was actually part of Konnan negotiating with AAA about returning to the promotion. Konnan’s denied it in the past.
>If Konnan was coming back to AAA now, getting Rey to come in and making things right with the Lucha Brothers feel like a few things near the top of the to do list in a Konnan return. I’m sure Rey is getting paid a nice amount of money. Penta & Fenix will enjoy not having legal nuisances and being able to work a couple extra TV shows, but there didn’t seem to be any urgency for them to make deals with AAA until now, all about the same time.
>From the other side, we know Rey de Reyes had major issues, the blame fell on Vampiro, and the blame for problems with AAA have been falling on Vampiro for the last year. It would make sense if AAA was at the point of making a change. They usually go with big names they know. They’re willing to move past bad experiences of the past if they think it’s worth it; Psicosis and Histeria sued the promotion for years and now are back on their TV. Vampiro not working out seems to prove you can’t just put anyone in that spot, and AAA’s had the most success with Konnan in that head creative role.
>This week is going to be an interesting week. That TV taping on Friday is Tijuana. If what I think is happening is actually happening, it may be hard to keep it quiet even that long.

RIP in peace to the Vampiro box you were too real for this world

looking forward to seeing more of Pentagon jr, though
Amish Roadkill - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:10:33 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6023307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Lucha Central reports AAA & the Lucha Brothers agreed to a deal where AAA will allow them appear on other TV shows as long as they wrestle as AAA’s Pentagon Jr. & Fenix on those shows. AAA will be allowed to license and market those names, and will not be suing over the other names. The Lucha Brothers will continue to use the Rey Fenix and Penta el Zero M names on non-TV shows.

Jesse The Body Ventura - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 04:53:59 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6023402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Repostan from puro general (since that's where the topic came up originally)
>At WrestleCon, Zack Sabre Jr. clarified has anti-Mexico remarks as actually anti-Mexican Wrestlers remarks, since they keep beating him and he’s angry about it. He challenged Negro Casas, Ultimo Guerrero and Hechicero to matches.
Matt Sydal - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:23:00 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6023520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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RDP+light kick
Jesse The Body Ventura - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:36:57 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6023534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Of fucking course that's what he does now.
Wifebeater - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:28:19 EST ID:T+c+ZY8T No.6023662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know if this is a sensible or cowardly backdown
The Berzerker - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:17:28 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6027689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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/llg/ pls pray 4 esfinge

Maybe Kawato-san too, before someone shivs him
Chief Jay Strongbow - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:31:58 EST ID:vpY6GQ1h No.6027966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>AAA updates their youtube

>all the themes are PRODUCTION MUSICed out of existence
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:11:43 EST ID:0TaUwOYb No.6028029 Report Quick Reply
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LU is presenting a match at Impact Redemption. I think this new working relationship is a step in the right direction and a way for both promotions to leverage their national TV deals.
Sirelda - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:34:24 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.6028047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it's great because I live a short drive from The Impact Zone so AAA coming to me is really really fucking great
Dementia - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 06:32:43 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6028718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>In his new stage as a technician, Kraneo wants to combat bullying against children who are overweight, a physical situation that he himself lives and wants to reverse.

>In recent years, childhood obesity has placed Mexico first among the nations with the most cases, so the gladiator 'Chubby = Full of Love' is willing to transform his body to give an example to children.

>"If I have to be the example for those children to do something, to have a change, I can transform my body to motivate children; if a weight like me can achieve it, they can also achieve it. Changing my physique will be for all the plump people, because sometimes we are the most bullied", assures Kraneo in interview with Reporte Indigo.

>"I tell the children not to be afraid of being fat, because later they can change their body, and I know they can do it"

>"I do not tell them to continue like this, but at this time when they are like this (overweight) they have to learn to love themselves, because later on the right people will arrive who will teach them to eat well and have a change in their body.

>"That's why my slogan right now is: 'Kraneo is not fat, he's full of love'. Then I tell the children to feel happy, because they have a lot of love, because at home they do not lack anything, because at home they have a lot of attention," he says.

>Kraneo has taken this initiative for the acceptance he has had as a technician on the part of the public, as he assured that he will try to follow in the footsteps of Atlantis, of whom he is now a partner, and be a role model for children even in eating habits.

>"I believe that I can become a standard for them. Because I want to make that which is chubby right now, not the funny chubby later; but the man who eats healthy"

Ivan Putski - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:14:25 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.6028733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ian Rotten - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:27:12 EST ID:7X9e19ml No.6028748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What an inspiration.
Gordon Solie - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:35:41 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6028754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hallowicked - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:39:52 EST ID:D7kkDMpD No.6028756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is like the third anti fat shaming wrestling angle in so many weeks
Dementia - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:44:36 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6028761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm not so sure that "if I get in shape, kids will too" really counts as "anti-fat shaming" there, anon.
Sendai Sachiko - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:55:28 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6028772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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yeah but reading is hard
Dementia - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:18:33 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6028786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Apparently it's always been La Casita & the name La Magistral originated in Japan somewhere along the line.
This' a pretty neat-ass resource all-around BTW: http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Lucha_Dictionary
Gail Kim - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:42:14 EST ID:+0q92cjf No.6028797