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THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE (11TH JANUARY '18) by Chris Benoit - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:30:17 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5936786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Even though Wrestle Kingdom 9 was on PPV in the U.S., its audience was limited. Based on google searches in the U.S., this year’s show had double the interest of last year’s show over the full week, and last year’s show had all the hoopla of the Omega vs. Okada match. It had nearly four times the interest of Wrestle Kingdom 9 and 10, even with all the promotion done for PPV of the former.

> As far as the numbers, this is the pattern for New Japan World, which is similar but much smaller than WWE Network. Last year, WrestleKingdom 11 saw the numbers increase over the week from 45,000 to 60,000. After, it dropped back to about 50,000, so most of the increase didn’t hold. It jumped back to 70,000 for the G-1 finals and hovered at that level most of the rest of the year. It was at 65,000 in December and jumped to 70,000 on 1/3 in the U.S. It was up to 82,000 a few hours before the show started, and between the show and New Year’s Dash the next day, it was at 95,000 after Dash ended and 97,000 by the next morning U.S. time. On the afternoon of 1/9,it had increased to 99,784, so it likely topped 100,000 by the end of that day. So the increase in subscribers last year for the show was 15,000 and this year was 35,000. It still pales compared to WWE numbers, but it’s amazing growth. The key is of those 35,000 newcomers, how many continue through February? Most probably won’t, but nobody was counting on most, just an increase from what was the previous long-term base.

> In theory, it should have been slightly more difficult to grow this year than last because the service is a year older, but interest in New Japan is also up. It’s probably unfair to credit Jericho vs. Omega with 20,000 new subs over and above what they’d have gotten, but 15,000 is not a stretch at all, and that’s a $128,000 value alone let alone if it adds 5,000 to the base it’s worth another $484,000 for the year.

> The paid attendance was 34,995, and the total in the building was between 43,000 and 44,000. The building was set up for about 45,000 and was largely full. After winning the main event, Okada actually pointed to a few sections that weren’t full and said that next year with him on top they would fill them. Takaaki Kidani said that the company goal was to build to where they could also fill the outfield seats, which were mostly blocked off by the stage. Legitimately, it was the largest crowd for a New Japan show in 16 years, and for that matter, for any pro wrestling show that wasn’t promoted by WWE since that time.

> Last year’s paid attendance was 26,192. My gut says they were going to do 30,000 this year with the increase in popularity and the Jericho vs. Omega match added about 5,000 fans. That could be a little high or low, but it’s probably not far off. If you figure that’s at a $90 average ticket price and that the average fan is spending $40 on merchandise (and my gut is the fans added by that match were spending more than that), you get $650,000. Jericho had done interviews and talked about adding $1 million in revenue to what they would have done in talking about provably drawing money, and I’d think about $1.13 million would be a fair estimate. When Brock Lesnar came back to pro wrestling, he was able to consistently move business by $750,000 on an average show, but it’s a lot easier to do that with PPV than just live tickets and a streaming service. Of those, more than 1,000 tickets were sold in the U.S., and many other Americans and Europeans got their tickets in Japan. The estimate was about 2,400 American and European fans at the show, a number which is totally unprecedented. When I went to sold out Tokyo Dome shows in the 90s, I doubt that figure would be more than about 200.

> Ticket demand for the Rumble in Philadelphia is at an all-time record high. The secondary market price for entry is $294.50, tying the 25th anniversary of Raw show at the Manhattan Center (which will probably only fit under 1,000 in) as the highest in history for a WWE event. This breaks the record set by the Shinsuke Nakamura debut in Dallas, but that was in a 9,000-seat building when the city was filled with wrestling fans coming in for WrestleMania. The other shows that weekend at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia don’t have the same level demand. The NXT price for entry right now is $31. Raw is $44. Smackdown is $32. That would indicate those shows aren’t sold out and there is no great demand for tickets. For a comparison, WrestleMania this year on the secondary market is $61, but that’s also because the primary market isn’t sold out, and the others are Raw at $62 (Raw after Mania is considered a major show), Smackdown at $41 and Takeover New Orleans at $54. The price for the sold out 25th anniversary of Raw at the Barclays Center to get in is $79.50.

> The Rumble will set the record for the most workers on a PPV show. With the 30 men and 30 women, and both title matches being with three men, two tag title matches, a U.S. title final and a cruiserweight title match, that would be 78 wrestlers. It is possible the cruiserweight title could be moved to the pre-show or even one of the tag title matches, but that’s still 72 to 76 wrestlers. There’s probably going to be at least one or two more pre-show matches since they do a two-hour pre-show for big cards, and probably one will be multiple person match. So the whole nearly six hour show will probably end with more than 80. The all-time record for a PPV main show up to this point is 60 wrestlers, held by the World War III show from WCW which had a 60 man Battle Royal once, and WrestleMania 30 which booked 60 people. This past year’s Mania had 33 on the main show but 37 on the pre-show, for a total of 70.

> Negro Casas’ rib injury was worse than originally thought. Casas has one broken rib and two bruised ribs in his 1/1 match with Sam Adonis. The injury is believed to have taken place at the end of the second fall off a 450 by Adonis. Casas will be out of action for several months which took him off the Fantastica Mania tour. This would have been Casas’ first New Japan tour since 2012

> Johnny Idol, who is from New Zealand, had a story written about him in the New Zealand Herald. He claimed when he started in Mexico he was making $15.50 per match, but now gets paid as much as $260 per match

> Sam Adonis is now doing the gimmick of wearing a wig and headgear which Buddy Rose and later Buddy Roberts and Kurt Angle made famous among tons of other heels that have lost hair matches. It leads to an easy pop in every match when the faces take the wig off.

> Johnny Mundo, who is scheduled to headline Guerra de Titanes on 1/26 at Juan de la Barrera Gym in an AAA Mega heavyweight title defense against Dr. Wagner Jr., has said that he’s not going to be doing the show and put the blame on Vampiro for whatever the problem is. Given that Mundo and Vampiro have also been working an angle, who knows what this means, although I can’t see him saying he won’t be at a big show on an Impact press call unless there is a problem. He said that they advertised him for the show without every contacting him. They are still advertising him and it’s the world title match main event
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Macho Man Randy Savage - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:34:04 EST ID:wUoY3R1B No.5936788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Negro Casas’ rib injury was worse than originally thought.

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Chris Benoit - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:37:27 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5936792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Dorian Roldan was on Zona Ruda and made some comments about 2018. He said they’ve got three major feuds planned for the year. He said that the next major show after Guerra de Titanes will be Rey de Reyes in March in Puebla. He said TripleMania would be in August. He said AAA would be doing shows this year in Colombia and Panama in April, Japan in October and the U.K. in November. He said that they would work together with CMLL in an instant if CMLL would agree to it. That would require a huge change of philosophy in CMLL for that to happen. He said they are working on getting a major name to the Guerra de Titanes show and he also said that he thinks both Taya and Sexy Star will be back at some point. He said the company is just waiting for both to be agreeable to return

> Someone on Twitter saying they were El Hijo del Vikingo’s girlfriend said that he, Angelikal, Villano III Jr. Solaris and Angel Mortal Jr. were all given no bookings for two weeks, went to complain about it, and now have either been suspended or had their pay cut in half. She did so with some shots of AAA booking sheets. According to the Cubs Fan, Angelikal only had one booking between 12/9 and 1/15, Vikingo had one between 12/17 and 1/13, Villano had two in that period and Solaris only has had one booking, on 1/1, since 11/25. There were guys in the reality show that won contracts and then AAA hardly booked them and they tried to get dates outside AAA, so AAA punished them and booked them even less.

> Matt Riddle did tell Crash he was working AAW on 1/20 and not the show here in Tijuana, but he’s still being advertised. Crash seems to believe since they were flying Riddle to Toronto (where he’s working the next day) that he must be doing their show.

> Nagata being loaned in to All Japan from New Japan is because Takao Omori had been working with a herniated disc in his neck since December, but continued to work through it since he was doing mostly tag matches and worked through his two title matches last week before the decision to make time off. Given that he’s 48, and has 25 years of wear-and-tear, he may not be back so quickly. Nagata is obviously great, but New Japan really doesn’t do much with him these days because they are pushing other talent and he had his big nostalgia run at G-1, so it’s good for him to go somewhere where he can be featured and help get experience and credibility in a program with Aoyagi & Nomura, who they are grooming as the future of All Japan

> Pro Wrestling NOAH are looking at doing a Marufuji 20th anniversary show in August, as close to his legit 20th anniversary (which would be 8/28) as possible

> NJPW Long Beach tickets go on sale on 1/29 priced from $200 down to $50 at the 5,300 Walter Pyramid on the campus of Long Beach State. They’ll probably announce a talent list before that date but the matches won’t be announced until the end of the next tour, unless they announce a Jericho vs. Naito match ahead of time

> The company announced a four-city tour of Australia with shows on 2/16 in Adelaide at Titanium Arena, 2/17 in Melbourne at Festival Hall (the building that World Championship Wrestling ran in the city during the country’s pro wrestling heyday), 2/18 in Sydney at the Quay Centre and 2/19 in Perth at HBF Stadium. They are configuring all the buildings for less than 5,000 fans, with the goal to do 3,000 to 4,000 paid each night. Tickets go on sale on 1/12 at Destroyallliones.com. On the tour will be Kazuchika Okada, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Minoru Suzuki, Tomohiro Ishii, The Young Bucks, Cody, Kushida, Evil, Sanada, Bad Luck Fale (who is helping promote the tour), Tama Tonga, Tanga Loa, Juice Robinson and Lance Archer, plus Will Ospreay for the last two nights. Tetsuya Naito will be in the U.S. that week. The company stated they want to become part of the wrestling scene in Australia. “We want to make history and we want you to be part of history. We do not want to just come to Australia, say Hi and leave. We want to become part of the fabric and culture of Australia.

> Atsushi Onita, 60, will be running for Mayor of the city of Kanzaki, Japan, a city with a population of about 32,000 people. The election is on 4/15. Kanzaki is the city he grew up in. Onita recently did a free show in that city on 9/17 to raise funds for victims of a local flood. Onita served in the House of Councilors in Japan, equivalent to our House of Representatives, being voted into office in 2001. He was forced to resign due to a sex scandal when it came out that he used government accommodations to have a threesome with a female porn actress and a female government employee. Onita has also claimed to have slept with 20,000 different women, which, like Ric Flair’s figure, is likely complete B.S., and also claims to have had more stitches on his body than anyone living due to a career of slicing and dicing all different parts of his body for bloody matches

> Stardom attendance increased 20 percent in 2017, which is pretty strong considering one year ago there was significant fear regarding the future with WWE after its top talent and both Io Shirai and Kairi Hojo looking at leaving and Yoko Bito looking at retiring. Shirai ended up not being signed due to medical reasons and returned to Stardom as its top star

> Viper, Kay Lee Ray and other women from Stardom have gone on social media to ask people to buy merchandise from Kris Wolf to help her out with her being injured. Her injury was not been announced but she’s been out of action this past week

> Jim Ross interviewed Ron Harris on his podcast about Arolucha. He didn’t say much past that whether they get television or not, they would be touring. It’ll be very interesting to see how they do on these Texas shows on 1/19 and 1/20. Ross asked him about Vince Russo and he said that when he was in WWE, WWE was at its peak (most consider 2000 the creative peak of the Attitude Era which was the year after he left, and that was the peak attendance was, the economic peak of that era was 2001, Russo was gone in the summer of 1999), he was in Impact when they were at their peak (PPV peak was under Scott D’Amore, economic peak would be the Hogan era and he was gone during that period, but he was there for much of its history and it was certainly stronger at that time than now) and as far as WCW, he blamed that on Bischoff screwing the company up before he got there. He explained that Russo will come up with creative ideas and Konnan can be his filter to determine if they would work in Lucha Libre.

> The Austin, TX-based WrestleCircus group that announced it was shutting down and then disappeared without much communication with talent or anyone, is now saying they are returning t their old venue on 2/17 and go back to running live shows on Twitch

> Konnan did a Spanish language podcast for the first time since November. His claim that was Impact wanted to use Penta 0M and Rey Fenix and he met with AAA trying to smooth things over to allow it to happen, and Crash found out about it and believed he was helping write their TV. I did hear the story a few weeks ago about Crash thinking Konnan was helping write AAA television but that made no sense. Konnan said that it should be obvious he’s not writing AAA television considering how bad it is
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Chris Benoit - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:42:24 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5936795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936786
> Five Star Wrestling, the first U.K. promotion to get a regular weekly national television deal in more than 35 years, held a press conference in Sheffield on 1/8 to announce Jack Swagger, who will go by his real name of Jake Hager, as part of the promotion. They had pushed that they would be introducing a former WWE world champion and Swagger was there. Swagger had also teased a big announcement for that day, and many thought that would be his first Bellator fight. The Thursday night series on Free Sports debuts on 2/1 in Liverpool with matches from a giant tournament they are planning with John Morrison vs. Rob Van Dam and Rey Mysterio vs. Zack Gibson. Free Sport is currently available in 64 percent of the homes in the U.K. (18 million of 28 million), while Sky (which airs WWE) and BT Sports (which airs UFC) are only in 21 percent of the country’s homes.

> The plan is to do a three hour live house show from a major arena with a big budget every Thursday night in prime time. The plan is also to sell the shows internationally to sports channels. Within the U.K., the Five Star group has a bad name, both for starting up and stopping a couple of times, leaving guys who had booked dates with them in the lurch, and spending big money to bring in U.S. talent, not pushing the U.K. talent at the top level, booking big buildings and drawing poorly. The advances for the dates so far are weak. The fear is that with this great opportunity for weekly TV that if it was in the wrong hands, and it doesn’t do well, that it will sour the TV industry on non-WWE pro wrestling. At the press conference, there was a pull-apart brawl between Hager and U.K. wrestler Eddie Ryan, to set up a match between the two of them on the 2/1 show

> For what it’s worth, the people running the ITV World of Sport remake are claiming that the project is back on, that the plans are to restart over the summer (which would likely mean a rush by WWE to get its U.K. project up as well and sign up more talent) and that Anthem won’t be involved. Some talent has been contacted to be patient for the relaunch of a weekly TV show. My feeling is to be skeptical. I think that’s the feeling of much of the talent at this point

> Dr. Wagner Jr. is going to be working the next season of Lucha Underground without his mask and it’s said he’s telling people he’s got a prominent role.

> The changing television landscape affects things here as FOX is negotiating to buy several Sinclair local affiliates. FOX is going heavily into the live sports business and they are looking for more stations in strong football markets. A Los Angeles Times story said they are looking at buying eight to ten Sinclair stations in markets with strong NFL presences, noting Seattle and Denver as two of the markets. Sinclair is looking to sell some stations to get the FCC to approve its deal to buy Tribune Media. The key is that the stations that get purchased would be markets that ROH could lose its local programming in, although it’s not like ROH has run any shows in Seattle or Denver to begin with. The expectation is that if the Tribune deal is approved, and Sinclair gets a number of stations including KTLA in Los Angeles, WGN in Chicago and WPIX in New York, that ROH may get weekend time slots on those stations in key markets it has no local television in

> Apparently the name of the ROH streaming service will be HonorClub as on its television show plugging the service, the tag line was “Coming in 2018, HonorClub, It’s More than a Network.

> The Young Bucks & Cody are teasing 9/1 as the date of their “All In” show at a 10,000-seat arena. It was confirmed to us that 9/1 would be the date, as they had to work it out with ROH and New Japan for a major weekend when neither promotion had anything going on and it was a holiday weekend allowing their fan base to travel to wherever the show is scheduled to take place. The two things notable about that date is that Bryan Danielson would not be available as he’s under contract until the end of September, and that’s Labor Day weekend, which is traditionally the PWG Battle of Los Angeles tournament. Actor Stephen Amell, who is friends with Cody after working a WWE program with him, and Cody has appeared a few times in Amell’s TV series “Arrow,” tweeted that he would be part of the show

> Impact are going back to the four-sided ring. That was a decision made some time back. Don Callis favored the four-sided ring but the decision was made before he started by D’Amore and Sonjay Dutt, but they couldn’t get it implemented in time for the last set of tapings. Impact’s six-sides, taken from AAA, was originally a way to be different and innovate and some fans clung to it. In reality, it doesn’t matter one way or the other. Nobody, statistically speaking, isn’t watching due to six rings, nor watching due to it. To me, whatever the wrestlers feel makes for better action and is safer would be the way to go. As far as action goes, when Impact had top talent, they had great matches either way, it made actually no difference at all. I’m told the four-sided ring is safer, so in the end, if that’s the case, that would be my call. There was also a Twitch banner on the ring at the tapings so they must have made some kind of a deal with them. Twitch has been in talks of late with a number of people in wrestling, seeing that as a good place for growth for their product

> Dutt, 35, had surgery on 1/5 for a torn Achilles tendon. That injury usually puts athletes out nine months to a year. He is still working in the office as one of the bookers. Doctors would not clear him to fly so he won’t be at the tapings due to the fear of blood clots, and he’s not testing fate since he was there when Chris Candido died of blood clots after a surgery. Dutt was the lead writer for all of the television shows being filmed this week

> PW Insider reported Rey Mysterio Jr. is being talked as debuting at the tapings. That is not scheduled unless something changes at the last minute but the report wasn’t wrong either. At one point there was a shot for that to happen and I suppose a last second deal could be put together but he’s not scripted into anything right now. There is smoke to the fire in the sense things could happen down the line

> Laurel Van Ness (Chelsea Green), who holds the Knockouts title, is scheduled to finish up at these tapings at this point. She gave notice at the last tapings, but after she had won the title. So the company wouldn’t release her from her contract until she came back for these tapings and that they would be able to write her out

> Alberto El Patron told the Mexican media that his goals for 2018 include possibly doing an MMA fight (I don’t buy this at all, he was offered $500,000 for a fight several years back and turned it down after starting to train for it and decided it wasn’t something for him anymore), and doing a radio show in the U.S. aimed at the Hispanic audience.

> Right now, the two top matches for Mania are scheduled as Lesnar vs. Reigns and Cena vs. Undertaker. So unless Undertaker changes his mind, and given how hard they promoted him for the 25th Raw and his being backstage at TV in Birmingham on 1/9, it makes that seem unlikely, one would expect the angle for Cena vs. Undertaker to be shot in two weeks on the 25th Raw
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One Man Gang - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:43:07 EST ID:76k/uzjZ No.5936798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> NJPW Long Beach tickets go on sale on 1/29 priced from $200 down to $50
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Not Filthy Tom - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:43:32 EST ID:r3IONlxO No.5936799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Has the new WOR come out yet?
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Kaito Kiyomiya - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:44:51 EST ID:qWFUkJ7J No.5936800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936798

doesn't that mean they start at 200 and 50 is the cheapest ones?
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Kanyon - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:46:18 EST ID:f7IXE1H8 No.5936802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936798
I don't understand why you're laughing? Are you actually retarded and thinking the prices have gone down before they're even on sale?
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Chris Benoit - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:48:08 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5936803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936786
> Samoa Joe was injured on the 1/8 Raw show. According to Dr. Chris Amann, during his match with Rhyno, he felt a pop at the bottom of his foot. The early diagnosis was a plantar fascia rupture, which is a thick tissue rupture under the foot. He’ll be getting an MRI to confirm the diagnosis. The treatment looks to be crutches, a walking boot and platelet rich plasma injections. He could be out for as little as two weeks or as long as two months, so he shouldn’t miss WrestleMania but it’s touch-and-go for Royal Rumble, which he was heavily figured into. He was pulled off the Mixed Match Challenge series where they could have delayed his first match for up to seven weeks from now. The timing for an injury for a WWE top guy is never good but he was scheduled for a house show run with Cena, as the Raw house main events in major markets after Rumble were to be Reigns vs. Cena vs. Joe for the IC title. Joe was voted in by fans to be Bayley’s partner in the mixed match challenge in a three-way vote with Elias and Jordan. With him out, the second place finisher, Elias, will team with Bayley

> Joe was also hired to do the voice of Predaking for the animated “Transformers” series

> Matt Hardy posed for a photo with Impact President Ed Nordholm that he posted (the photo was actually taken weeks ago) with the idea all is forgotten and they are fine with each other once Nordholm gave Hardy the rights to the Broken gimmick

> It has been reported here (first reported by Brad Shepard) that Goldberg was going into the Hall of Fame this year but we’re told it’s now confirmed that he will be the main eventer of the 2018 class, which should be announced very shortly. The Dudleys name that we had heard and was on Shepard’s list is notable since they were just announced for the 25th anniversary of Raw show on 1/22. That show will likely be the highest rated show of the year, so they should shoot some big angles that night including start teasing Mania matches.

> The names announced as appearing as guests are Undertaker, DX (Michaels & HHH), The New Age Outlaws, Lawler, Jim Ross (who are likely announcing from the Manhattan Center meaning Ross in the same month will be doing the highest rated Raw and the NJPW Tokyo Dome show), Dudleys, Flair, Hall, Nash, Bella Twins, JBL, Ron Simmons, Ted DiBiase, Sgt. Slaughter, Charles “Godfather” Wright, Teddy Long, Bruce Prichard, Boogeyman, John Laurinaitis, Eric Bischoff, Sean Waltman and Steve Austin. Reigns vs. Miz for the IC title will be on that show. I could see a title change since Reigns is going for the big belt and teases of Joe costing Reigns the title to lead to Reigns vs. Joe as a house show program made sense, but with the Joe injury, that could be off the table.

> There are a lot of other names batted around including non-wrestlers like Howard Finkel and Lilian Garcia types who were regulars on the show in its early days but those names haven’t been confirmed for the show yet. The key guys on the Smackdown roster will be on the show since they aren’t booking a Smackdown house show that night. Austin was last on Raw on October 26, 2015

> The Miz reality show that was talked about during Raw will be called Miz & Mrs., largely about Miz and his wife, perhaps building to the birth of their daughter. The big surprise is that it’s on USA and not E! It really shows how desperate USA is because for years they didn’t want to be the wrestling channel and only wanted one show, but then took Smackdown because they needed it to stay No. 1. But that’s five out of 21 prime time hours per week. The Miz show would only be 30 minutes and it’ll be six episodes. Ziggler is supposed to be a regular on the show as well. A key is that not only did USA look to add prime time wrestling programming, but the ratings for shows like Total Divas and Total Bellas, while successful as prime time programming for E!, would be well below what is considered successful in prime time for USA. Every time USA has added a WWE reality show, with the attempts to bring back Tough Enough, it’s always dropped after one season because the ratings are below network average, as on USA you need 1 million viewers for a prime time show to be a success, and Total Divas and Total Bellas delivers 500,000 to 700,000

> Paul Levesque was reported as being in Los Angeles at Republique Restaurant meeting with Ronda Rousey and her reps. TMZ reported it and talked about it like they are trying to work out a deal, but obviously she’s been training for months and while things may need to be finalized, they didn’t shoot those angles last summer and do storylines that have already been in place for some time without an understanding that they are doing business. It’s believed this was a planted story by both sides as they sometimes do and not just some coincidence where they happened to be there with cameras as Levesque was walking out of a restaurant after meeting with Rousey

> Stephanie also noted what is clearly obvious, that WWE is distancing themselves away from President Donald. She was asked why in a video they put out showing celebrities that have done WWE, that Donald wasn’t in it. She said that the company made a strategic decision to stay away from partisan politics. It was the only move they could make that makes sense. While Donald appointed Linda McMahon to a cabinet post, Donald is a very divisive character. He’s beneficial to the company in many ways. Donald has spearheaded legislation for tax cuts on businesses like theirs, which is one of the reasons the stock price has grown. But while they support him, their fan base leans heavily the other way, as WWE fans skew heavily Democratic, heavy Mexican-American and heavily low income and there is no logical point in doing anything to alienate your fan base.

> WWE will be testing out NextVR (Virtual Reality) at certain 2018 shows. The virtual reality experiences will be ten minutes and available for free to fans on a new WWE channel within the NextVR app after each event. Fans will be able to see highlights from the biggest events in virtual reality as if they were there live with a Samsun Gear VR headset or Google Daydream View, along with a compatible smartphone, PlayStationVR or Windows Mixed Reality to download the Next VR app

> WWE and Astro Malaysia Holdings Berhad have inked a new deal for their 17th year together. They will continue to air Raw, Smackdown, NXT, Afterburn, Bottomline, This Week in WWE and Main Event on their various sports channels. They will also continue to offer the WWE Network as a premium television channel

> Dwayne Johnson and daughter Simone were prominent on 1/7 at the Golden Globe awards. Johnson was out as a presenter, and shown at the head table in a lot of shots. Simone was there leading a lot of the celebrities of stage and later in the show Dwayne introduced her and she gave a speech. It was the first time Dwayne and his daughter have worked together in any public capacity. The funny thing is, that those close to the situation expected some day they would work together, but it would be on WWE television since her goal is to end up as a wrestler first before going into business later

> The 1/19 205 Live show tour opener in Kingston, RI, was canceled, claimed for logistical and routing issues, which, with no new date scheduled and refunds being offered rather than a new date, means poor advance. They already had to add Matt Hardy vs. Wyatt for the weekend because the 205 Live shows didn’t get off to good starts. The 1/20 show in Lowell, MA and 1/21 show in Poughkeepsie are still on. Poughkeepsie is traditionally one of the best markets for wrestling and if it doesn’t draw 1,500 people for a 205 Live show, I’d say that’s a really bad sign for the concept. The fact that we haven’t heard about the planned February dates is also not a great sign. A 1/19 NXT show in Jacksonville was also canceled, but that was because the national guard needed the armory that weekend
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Chris Benoit - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:51:37 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5936804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936786
> Cena is being advertised now for a special appearance at the 3/11 Fast Lane PPV in Columbus, OH, which is still advertising a Styles vs. Orton vs. Nakamura vs. Zayn vs. Owens title match as the main event. He’s also scheduled for the 2/25 Elimination Chamber PPV which is a Raw brand show

> Cena will be working mainly Raw house shows starting in February. He was booked for a few shows in three-way IC title matches with Reigns and Joe (which obviously changes with Joe’s injury and would change again if Miz wins the title). He’s on selected shows including the 3/16 Madison Square Garden show. Lesnar will also be doing more house shows during the lead to Mania including MSG. They are also advertising dark matches for Raws during Mania season. Cena is scheduled for every Raw TV show from 1/29 through Mania, and they are advertising Cena & Reigns & Strowman vs. Miz & Joe & Kane as the dark matches in a number of cities

> With Tessa Blanchard now pushing for indie dates for 2018, it’s pretty clear she’s not coming in any time imminently

> A lot of the reactions of wrestlers finding out who their partners were in the tournament were legit. Some obviously knew. For example, the spot with Lynch & Zayn, obviously Zayn knew. Lynch was told to go outside as they wanted to film her signing autographs, and then hid Zayn as a fan for the reveal. The series is a test to see whether both companies can do more together going forward

> The current plan at the TV tapings is that Mixed Match will start on Facebook at about 10:05 p.m. and do one match per week, and the end time would be 10:20 p..m. 205 Live would be cut back with the current plan being from about 10:22 p.m. to 10:55 p.m. each week until the Mixed Match series is over

> Cena and Lesnar are both being advertised to appear at the Barclays Center as opposed to the Manhattan Center for the 25th Raw on 1/22

> Naomi, The Usos, Bayley, Crews and Kalisto are appearing this week on the game show “Paradise Run” on Nickelodeon for WWE week, taped in Hawaii. The wrestlers will team up with kids in the game show that includes an obstacle course and puzzles. The show airs at 7 p.m. Central time

> Regarding Neville, the situation is unchanged at this point. He quit the company but is still under contract and they aren’t giving him his release. If he were to publicly talk about it, it would be a contract breach so I don’t expect you would hear more. He was wanting to go elsewhere but right now is in a state of limbo. I don’t know where things stand as far as his wanting to come back, because the idea is you can only go so long in the freeze zone on suspension without being paid and his choices are to return and be paid, or be suspended for not working. Enzo Amore said that he didn’t know the situation but put Neville over as the key who built 205 Live and said he’d love for him to return

> Gabe Sapolsky has confirmed he will be signing a contract to be a consultant to NXT. Sapolsky has been very good at finding new talent and figuring out how to market and make good usage of them. He had been working at the NXT tapings for some time. WWN will continue and Sapolsky will remain in charge of the wrestling end of Evolve and several of the related promotions

> Eddie Hall, 29, the winner of a recent World’s Strongest Man contest, said he was considering an offer to join the WWE. He won the 2017 contest in May. After the contest, Hall announced his retirement from competing in that sport. The bad part is he blamed that sport for leaving his body and his marriage on the brink of collapsing. He said WWE approached him and he’s looking at it. But he also said he’s not rushing to do it because he has appearances, endorsements and potential TV work coming and he’s looking at what would be the best offer. Hall is 6-foot-3 and competes at 440 pounds and said that he feels he’ll endanger his health keeping such a heavy bodyweight

> Mark Henry, 46, WWE’s previous world’s strongest man winner, who hasn’t wrestled since the Andre Battle Royal and did only three matches last year (Rumble, a TV loss to put over Strowman, and Mania) is pretty much considered retired without any fanfare. Henry is still under a WWE contract. He’s listed for a date with Northeast Wrestling, on 3/2 in Waterbury, CT, for a show that also includes Rey Mysterio, Tenille (formerly Emma, and with that name it’s too bad Lou Albano isn’t around to manage her), Flip Gordon and Matt Riddle. It’s a unique situation. The event is for charity and he’s doing it, but he’s not looking for outside dates and he won’t be wrestling on the show, but will be doing something on the show itself as well as the usual autograph signings that WWE talent often does prior to their shows

> PW Insider reported that Serena Deeb, 31, was in Pittsburgh, evidently getting her medicals done for a return. She had retired in 2015 and even did a retirement match in Japan, but did come back for one match, losing in the first round of the Mae Young Classic. Deeb worked on the main roster in 2009 and 2010 as a member of the C.M. Punk Straight Edge Society

> The top ten most-watched shows of the week on the WWE Network were: 1. 2015 Royal Rumble; 2. NXT year-in-review show on 1/3; 3. Clash of Champions; 4. Royal Rumble 2017 5. Royal Rumble 2016; 6. Photo Shoot-Cesaro (this is the second week in a row the Cesaro feature beat Miz); 7. Survivor Series 2017; 8. 205 Live from Jan. 2; 9. WrestleMania 2017; 10. Photo Shot-Miz
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Dawn Marie - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:53:20 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5936806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936800
Yes it means the prices range from $50 up to $200.
That guy clearly can't read and has now made an ass of himself ITT.
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Brian Adams - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:55:22 EST ID:CpRHQRQe No.5936808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936804
You missed of the the most important parts of the article

>With the New Year, and two of the biggest sports business stories of 2018 being the WWE and UFC television deal negotiations, there has been a lot of speculation in and out of media based around the idea of WWE moving from USA Network to a FOX deal.

>It is well known that Paul Levesque had a preliminary meeting, although it was only that, several months ago with the heads of FOX Sports. The gist of the speculation is that if FOX doesn’t sign UFC, and they move to another network, that they would go after WWE because they would have so much air time to fill on FS 1 and FS 2, which relies greatly on UFC product.

>There’s also talk that they may buy WWE, so they have them for good and don’t have to worry in the future about escalating television rights and losing them, similar to what Viacom did with Bellator and what a couple of networks (including FOX) were interested in doing with UFC before the bidding broke $3.5 billion and they dropped out.

>Evidently Viacom has also expressed interest in pro wrestling, but as an owner, like with Bellator, for the same long-term reasons, and that talk isn’t centered around WWE. That talk is clearly as preliminary as it could be, given nothing has broken on it. To me at this point it’s the same as the 2004 story where Ted Turner, Bill Shaw and Jim Barnett had a meeting about starting a pro wrestling company when Turner’s non-compete against WWE ended. So many things had changed and Barnett told them that he estimated there would be $50 million in start-up costs and losses to try and get something off the ground from scratch, which was very different from the $9 million it cost in 1988 to buy a failing Jim Crockett Promotions, and Turner moved on.

>Still, one person close to the situation believes McMahon isn’t interested in selling his majority interest just yet, feeling that the stock will soar because they will get a big increase in television rights. If the shares hit $40, he could continue to do what he’s doing, and sell small pieces of it off while maintaining full voting control. If there’s a UFC level offer, I can’t imagine WWE not selling at that price.

>Some of the talk going around is that if this happens, and it’s all a big if, Raw would move to FOX, with the idea that in moving it to the big network, it would not only give it the level of exposure to make it hugely popular once again, but it would give the WWE network legitimacy. A strong positive in all this is that if Raw was to move to FOX, it would have to be cut back to two hours, from 8-10 p.m., because so many FOX stations have a 10 p.m. newscast.

>Smackdown would then be put on FS 1, as a way to boost its ratings and I wouldn’t be surprised for them to try and get more content to fill time on FS 1 and FS 2 since UFC fills so many hours.

>But if FOX signs UFC, which is still a strong possibility, all of that would become less likely. It’s not impossible to have both on the network, as they are different products, and there is benefit as Spike found in using the big pro wrestling television audience as a lead-in, because even if wrestling doesn’t deliver good ad rates, if you keep those extra viewers for UFC, that has much stronger ad rates per viewer so the value of the viewer is increased greatly. But on the surface that’s difficult because UFC is an established Saturday night entity and you wouldn’t want to change that often, and WWE is Monday and Tuesday.

>It should be noted that this strategy dates back to talks almost one full year ago and things could be very different now past it’s known FOX is interested in WWE if they lose UFC. With FOX selling so many of its stations. They are cash rich right now.

>FOX is strategizing now around live programming, news and sports. Still, even with all their cash on hand, their UFC offer is not a big increase from what they already pay. The just over $200 million per year deal that they offered UFC would not be that big an increase over what WWE is currently being paid by USA and would be far less than the stock market expects WWE to get for its new rights deal. There was one analyst predicting that the number of bidders could get WWE’s price to $400 million, although a lot of the expectations for WWE stem from what people think UFC will get. The two companies have been in the same ballpark when it comes to U.S. TV money for the last several years, with WWE slightly ahead more because it signed its last deal a few years later when numbers were higher. But while UFC has talked of $400 million and even $450 million, those close to the situation have told us they don’t really believe the deal will go that high.

>“It’s getting more interesting by the minute,” Dana White said to ESPN. “ESPN buys Fox Sports’ (the regional networks, not FS 1 and FS 2) which the UFC is perfect for. And you look at FOX, they have a load of cash from the (recent sale of properties to Disney). You’ve got powerhouses like Amazon, Netflix and YouTube.”

>As far as strengthening WWE business if it stays public and in the hands of the McMahons, it’s all about rights fees because things like live shows, licensing and merchandise are steady but they aren’t likely to increase much. Live shows would actually have declined without the price increases and there may be a limit to how much they could do of that, outside of the big shows where the demand remains high. Network growth has slowed greatly as well.

>UFC wanted its deal pretty much done at this point, but there’s no sign that is the case. WWE wants its future home decided by May, even though the move, if there is one, wouldn’t be until October 2019
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Chris Benoit - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:58:11 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5936812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936786
NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 12 Star Ratings:
> Masahito Kakihara won the Rumble in 32:05. *1/2
> Matt & Nick Jackson beat Sho & Yoh in 18:49 to win the IWGP jr. tag titles. ****
> Zack Sabre Jr. & Takashi Iizuka & Taichi beat Michael Elgin & Ray Rowe & Hanson in 6:05. **1/2
> Tomohiro Ishii & Toru Yano & Baretta beat Sabre Jr. & Iizuka & Taichi in :41. 3/4*
> Ishii & Yano & Baretta beat Togi Makabe & Juice Robinson & Ryusuke Taguchi in 3:30. *1/2
> Ishii & Yano & Baretta beat Bad Luck Fale & Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa in 6:48 to win the Never Open weight six man titles. **3/4
> Kota Ibushi beat Cody in 15:08. ****1/4
> Seiya Sanada & Evil won the IWGP tag titles from Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. in 14:14. ****
> Hirooki Goto beat Minoru Suzuki to win the Never Open weight title in a hair vs. hair match in 18:05. ****1/2
> Will Ospreay won the IWGP jr. title for a second time in a four-way over champion Marty Scurll, Kushida and Hiromu Takahashi in 21:18. ****3/4
> Hiroshi Tanahashi beat Jay White to keep the IC title in 19:43. ***3/4
> Kenny Omega pinned Chris Jericho in 34:36 to retain the U.S. title in a no DQ match. ***** FIVE STAR MATCH
> Kazuchika Okada pinned Tetsuya Naito in 34:26 to retain the IWGP heavyweight title. ****1/2
NJPW New Years Dash 2017 Star Ratings
> Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Manabu Nakanishi & Yuji Nagata beat Tomoyuki Oka & Ren Narita & Tetsuhiro Yagi & Shota Umino in 7:09. **3/4
> Taka Michinoku & Desperado & Takashi Iizuka & Taichi & Yoshinobu Kanemaru beat Jushin Liger & Hirai Kawato & Toa Henare & Togi Makabe & Tiger Mask in 8:49. ***
> Jay White pinned Katsuya Kitamura in 7:31. **1/2
> Young Bucks & Kenny Omega beat Sho & Yoh & Cheeseburger in 11:19. **3/4
> Cody & Yujiro Takahashi & Chase Owens & Marty Scurll & Leo Tonga beat Kota Ibushi & Juice Robinson & David Finlay & Kushida & Ryusuke Taguchi in 13:20. **1/2
> Bad Luck Fale & Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa regained the Never Open weight six man titles beating Tomohiro Ishii & Toru Yano & Baretta in 14:40. ***1/4
> Minoru Suzuki & Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer & Zack Sabre Jr. beat Hiroshi Tanahashi & Ray Rowe & Hanson & Michael Elgin in 11:36. ***1/4
> Tetsuya Naito & Evil & Seiya Sanada & Hiromu Takahashi & Bushi beat Kazuchika Okada & Will Ospreay & Hirooki Goto & Yoshi-Hashi & Gedo in 13:50. ***3/4
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Kanyon - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:58:43 EST ID:f7IXE1H8 No.5936813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936808
Also missed that Omega signed his contract again until 2019
>As far as Omega goes, on 1/9, he signed his new contract so it is official he’s with New Japan through January 31, 2019, so he won’t be in the Royal Rumble this year (or next year), or WrestleMania, which no doubt won’t keep people from speculating on his role in those shows daily.
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Jackie Gayda - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:05:10 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5936815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936803
If Joe sticks with voice work he might have the opportunity to dub a Godzilla movie.

Also is it me or is there like an extra gallon of lucha scoopz?
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Mickie Knuckles - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:12:28 EST ID:wv5u6Y0t No.5936818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936812
Based jericho
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TAKA Michinoku - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:18:35 EST ID:q6JetZIv No.5936824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936804
>Meltzer still shilling for Tessa Blanchard
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Rocky Johnson - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:22:07 EST ID:9gYCVRTl No.5936826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Wrestling Observer Radio with Bryan Alvarez and Dave Meltzer is back with tons to talk about including Smackdown, 205 Live, Samoa Joe's injury, Impact changes with the new tapings, the Young Bucks and Cody and their All In Show, New Japan news and notes and NJPWWorld.com subscribers, UFC this coming weekend and tons more!

https://my.mixtape.moe/qmqidk.mp3
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Not Filthy Tom - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:29:31 EST ID:r3IONlxO No.5936828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936826
tyvm friendo
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Joey Styles - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:31:00 EST ID:qPF0bthP No.5936829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936812
This is now the official Y2J apology thread.

APOLOGIZE!
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Dave Prazak - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:36:05 EST ID:QeJmmpyv No.5936830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck me, that show was good but boy did based Dave overrate THE FUCK out of it. Were we watching the same thing? I don't get it. That Young Bucks match in particular was 3 * at best.
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Chavo Guerrero - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:38:24 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5936833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm going to be that guy and ask for a pastebin
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Tugboat - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:45:43 EST ID:VOIUVw1m No.5936837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936812
>The Jrs match getting a better rating than the Heavyweight one
Wasn't expecting that. The Jrs did put on the better match but didn't think Meltzer would rate it over the main event.

Also, was this Jericho's first ever 5 star match in Meltzer's eyes? I know his predisposition against rating WWF/E that highly, but still it's kinda surprising considering how long Jericho's career has been.
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Nick Jackson - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 08:58:34 EST ID:TS7FNNO7 No.5936842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936803
> Stephanie also noted what is clearly obvious, that WWE is distancing themselves away from President Donald. She was asked why in a video they put out showing celebrities that have done WWE, that Donald wasn’t in it. She said that the company made a strategic decision to stay away from partisan politics. It was the only move they could make that makes sense. While Donald appointed Linda McMahon to a cabinet post, Donald is a very divisive character. He’s beneficial to the company in many ways. Donald has spearheaded legislation for tax cuts on businesses like theirs, which is one of the reasons the stock price has grown. But while they support him, their fan base leans heavily the other way, as WWE fans skew heavily Democratic, heavy Mexican-American and heavily low income and there is no logical point in doing anything to alienate your fan base.

Of fucking course it was Stephanie behind that, she's a social justice cunt (quite obvious) who panders to snowflakes all the damn time. Pretty much everyone knows who Linda works for, they shouldn't be hiding it whatsoever feeling ashamed about it, people aren't going to get so pissed off over seconds of video footage of Vince getting his head shaved at WrestleMania (and if they are well they need to get their head checked). They should have done weekly packages leading up to the inauguration showing video clips of POTUS in WWE. Instead they give him the Chris Benoit treatment despite having Obama and Hillary in video packages because "he's divisive according to mainstream media" well so was the other candidate but you showed videos of her. Remember Memorial Day last year? Did they use a quote from the current president? No, they used Obama instead. Avoiding mentioning the WWE Hall of Famer President will see them in a bad light as well you know, alternate realities are delusional. Meanwhile the XFL will very well have no issue pandering to the man, because that's what it's being set up for. Not trying to pol the thread up, just showing the hypocrisy of WWE. Stop hiding your past, embrace it.
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Mitch Ryder - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:05:43 EST ID:Q9Y0DPKk No.5936847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Tenille (formerly Emma, and with that name it’s too bad Lou Albano isn’t around to manage her)

>get it on
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Jun Akiyama - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:15:03 EST ID:MouTGOaP No.5936855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936818
>>5936829
Blessed Kenny carrying an old man through the greatest match of his career.
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Kanyon - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:16:02 EST ID:f7IXE1H8 No.5936856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
God you're such a cry baby Jesus Christ. It's always your kind that are the snowflakes
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Jun Akiyama - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:19:35 EST ID:MouTGOaP No.5936858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936842
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Dawn Marie - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:20:10 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5936859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
I bet you unironically call people who disagree with your politics snowflakes.
The irony.
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Jaki Numazawa - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:22:24 EST ID:VEyNTl5r No.5936860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936808
I don't get why people still believe cutting RAW back to two hours will magically fix everything.
Smackdown is proof that a show's length doesn't matter when the booking is shit.
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Amber O'Neal - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:24:00 EST ID:L8HzJTCa No.5936861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936833
I'm going to be that guy who agrees with you and offers to blow whoever pastes it.
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Kevin Steen - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:56:16 EST ID:ZwqwXMMh No.5936886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Jericho now has a 5 star match

He's one Rumble win and one IWGP title win away from having done pretty much everything possible of note in wrestling

Also;

>there is no logical point in doing anything to alienate your fan base.

Fucking lol
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Macho Man Randy Savage - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:09:42 EST ID:wUoY3R1B No.5936893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936860
RAW has been pretty good lately, it's nothing special but still watchable compared to the 2016 Reigns show. Going to 2 hours makes it easier to sit through, they just keep having random matches that makes no sense and the same matchup every week to kill time even though they already have a shitload of ads doing that.

RAW cutting to two hours won't fix everything, but it sure will be better.
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Edge - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:11:27 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.5936894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936812
BEST BOUT MACHINE did it again lads
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Edge - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:14:29 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.5936896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
okada vs naito was MOTN. sorry but as great and creative as kenny's match was, it was heavily smoke and mirror gimmick fest. i'll always take a pure 1v1 wrestling match over that if it's of similar quality.

the junior match was a super fun and fast paced spotfest but nobody's going to remember it in 3 months. suzuki vs goto was better.
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Dusty Rhodes - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:22:07 EST ID:ssHNZS9o No.5936898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Poppa Dave giving his biggest american source and biggest japan source a 5* match
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Machine Jerk - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:23:08 EST ID:c+JU3Iki No.5936901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936792
it's funny how much dave hates onita. he's still pissed about that bruiser brody angle.

hope onita becomes mayor.
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Macho Man Randy Savage - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:25:35 EST ID:wUoY3R1B No.5936903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936901
Onita is too tough for Dave.
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Bill DeMott - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:26:04 EST ID:3/bwP/FE No.5936904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936786
> > Ticket demand for the Rumble in Philadelphia is at an all-time record high. The secondary market price for entry is $294.50, tying the 25th anniversary of Raw show at the Manhattan Center (which will probably only fit under 1,000 in) as the highest in history for a WWE event.
HERE COMES THE MONAYYYYYYY
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY
IF YA AINT TALKIN CHEDDAH THEN YA DONT KNOW BETTER
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Cody Rhodes - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:30:20 EST ID:6OqLdRZd No.5936906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>one would expect the angle for Cena vs. Undertaker to be shot in two weeks on the 25th Raw

ONE MORE WRESTLEMANIA MAIN EVENT BROTHER
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Edge - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:30:40 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.5936907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936898
konnan's probably his biggest mexican source and i'd be surprised if he ever gave him a 3 star match
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Rocky Johnson - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:31:01 EST ID:9gYCVRTl No.5936909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936812
>Jr 4 way above goto vs suzuki
other than that I agree with all of this
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Crossbones - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:31:58 EST ID:ZaFMNF7b No.5936910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936896
Nigg3r, in any case Goto vs Suzuki was the MOTN, don't be silly, Okada was very absent in the whole match, and Naito was clearly nervous, idk why, but they could have done it way, WAY better.
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Pope D'Angelo Dinero - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:40:32 EST ID:U+A/TOl1 No.5936913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936830
>2018
>still taking Big Mark Meltz ratings seriously
He's nothing more than a shill at this point. I think Omega and Ibushi could fuck each other in the middle of the ring and he would give it 8 stars.
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Mitch Ryder - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:45:07 EST ID:Q9Y0DPKk No.5936918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kenny finally got his 5 star match.
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Mildred Burke - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:47:41 EST ID:DMKJS/OP No.5936920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936918
He's got one with Naito too.
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Danny Doring - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:49:00 EST ID:yEvgx3wq No.5936922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936812
Based best bout machine does it again
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Go Shiozaki - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:52:25 EST ID:xU2HBdj6 No.5936923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936798

It means the highest tickets are 200 down to 50 for the worse seats you fucking moron.
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GENTARO - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:00:07 EST ID:szAGjBCt No.5936929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's become clear to me that Dave will be waffling on about Tessa Blanchard possibly getting signed until the day one of them dies
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Bill DeMott - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:58 EST ID:3/bwP/FE No.5936941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936795
> Impact are going back to the four-sided ring.
Seriousy can this running joke of company just die already?
There isnt a single unique or interesting thing going for them and every star they ever made in their OG days has made it to WWE except fucking Austin Aries who just returned there like a poor sap who never learned to stay away from a bad ex.
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Mo - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:17:57 EST ID:2Youmaxo No.5936945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936837
I feel like Meltz has gotten softer on ratings in recent years. Omega vs Jericho was great though. A little longwinded for my tastes, but man Cool Dad can still fucking go and Kenny's honestly BOTW imo.
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Macho Man Randy Savage - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:20:03 EST ID:wUoY3R1B No.5936950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936941
The old ring doesn't work anymore, most of their guys aren't used to it and it ends up being a mess.
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Crimson - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:21:52 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5936951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936929
Or there really is interest in her because of her boyfriend + her last name.
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Rayna Von Tash - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:24:22 EST ID:y8K4pFlL No.5936953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936941
I love the six sided ring but I absolutely loved that tag team title match at Slammiversary almost purely because most of the talent clearly had no fucking clue what they're doing, it's probably for the best if they're gonna mostly use outside talent as it looks
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Byron Saxton - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:57:21 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.5936968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936929
Because at some point she most likely will get signed. She's one of the more notable women on the indies also she is the daughter of a Hall of Famer.

She is still really young and is getting booked all over the place. They are probably happy to wait a bit and let her get all that experience.
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Turbo - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:05:30 EST ID:lUxu4OVc No.5936974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>loltna thinks a 6 sided ring is going to make any difference, can this joke of a company just die already?!

>loltna got rid of the 6 sided ring, the one thing that made them unique and stand out, can this joke of a company just die already?!
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:11:19 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5936979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936795
>>5936826
>Dave talking about Daniel Bryan and the ALL IN stuff, CM Punk too
Did we ruse Dave with a meme?
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Aldo Montoya - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:14:12 EST ID:BqCYHO/M No.5936981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
i'm laffin
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Bison Smith - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:43:14 EST ID:sZIj7buj No.5937000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936812
>Ibushi carrying CAWDY to a four-star match
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Jonathan Barber - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:56:01 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5937010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936812
I'm so glad Omega/Jericho was rated so highly. The whole feud was awesome and the payout massively overdelivered.

I made a thread a couple weeks back about how shocked I was that I really cared about a Jericho match in 2017/2018.

Bravo to both
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Ron Garvin - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:06:39 EST ID:qCJN1O/R No.5937018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936812
I don't think that was a five star match but I'm glad that Jericho at least has one under his belt now. He's put on so many in the past that probably should've been five, it's much overdue.
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Lance Bravado - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:20:47 EST ID:EnOJ0MtF No.5937032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
Sup
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Apple Miyuki - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:27:25 EST ID:Tlg9gWny No.5937037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936907

Definitely goes against the idea he gives his sources/friends better ratings, Dave will go on tangents about how shitty of a worker Konnan was at the drop of a hat, sometimes with Konnan present.
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Y2J - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:29:59 EST ID:7mXrZGOQ No.5937038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936818
Based jerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Crimson - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:33:20 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5937042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937037
Not hard to believe, really, especially after hearing how Konnan got into wrestling on the Colt Cabana podcast.
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Excalibur - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:35:41 EST ID:BwgfxKQz No.5937044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936826

Before xwt? Nice!!!!
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Balls Mahoney - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:15:04 EST ID:uaLZDjj9 No.5937078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936795

>Jack Swagger is now in Sheffield on a semi-regular basis

Huh.
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Mari Apache - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:25:01 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5937090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936812

> Will Ospreay won the IWGP jr. title for a second time in a four-way over champion Marty Scurll, Kushida and Hiromu Takahashi in 21:18. ****3/4

WAY overrated. Outside of this, I'm pretty okay with his ratings.
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123 Kid - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:28:37 EST ID:XW5MZeHX No.5937093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936812
I went in knowing Dave would give whatever Omega was going to do Five-Stars, but I actually watched the match and that shit was entertaining as fuck. I don't think it's five-stars, more ****1/2, but I'll accept it. Shit was fantastic.
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Scott Lost - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:33:25 EST ID:cFGKb8fe No.5937101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937078
Instead of the Swagger Soaring Eagle, he brings out Sheffield Wednesday's Ozzie Owl with him to the ring.
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CM Punk - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:38:41 EST ID:FrfhLNp6 No.5937105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936792
> Atsushi Onita, 60, will be running for Mayor of the city of Kanzaki, Japan, a city with a population of about 32,000 people. The election is on 4/15. Kanzaki is the city he grew up in. Onita recently did a free show in that city on 9/17 to raise funds for victims of a local flood. Onita served in the House of Councilors in Japan, equivalent to our House of Representatives, being voted into office in 2001. He was forced to resign due to a sex scandal when it came out that he used government accommodations to have a threesome with a female porn actress and a female government employee...

God among men
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A.J. Styles - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:43:54 EST ID:TEoE/Rwh No.5937110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936803
>more Samoan nepotism
At least it’ll give Aunty Nia something to do.
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Owen Fart - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:49:24 EST ID:zwoGFhDe No.5937115 Report Quick Reply
>>5937105

fuck yeah, Onita rules
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Lance Bravado - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:51:25 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5937118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936786
>>5936808
>>5936812
>>5936826

Thank you for the scoops, brothers.

Does anybody know why there was no Filthy last night?

Cheers.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:55:34 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5937125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937118
He's wrestling for MLW tonight.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:06:46 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5937141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937125
>>5937118
what Higgy said, but also that he will be doing their typical Rumble review this Sunday with Vinny, sooo we'll get that Sunday and/or Monday
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Lance Bravado - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:18:05 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5937149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937125
>>5937141

Alright, thanks dudes.
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Invader - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:21:53 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.5937150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936941
>wanting a company to die because they change their ring

I think you'll fit in a lot better on leddit, buddy.
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Chiva IV - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:44:58 EST ID:3W7WtZX2 No.5937162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936913

Depends on how long it lasted and how many false finishes.
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WrestlingTheSport - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:08:42 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5937173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kinda obvious news, but HHH and Stephanie commented briefly on the Rich Swann situation.

>“We are just waiting on the legal,” the 14-time WWE Champion told us. “We have a zero tolerance policy on that, as you’ve well seen. So he’s suspended until it is determined legally one way or the other.”

>“And if he’s convicted, he will be released,” Triple H’s wife and WWE’s Chief Brand Officer Stephanie McMahon added, meaning that he will be dropped by the company.

>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.

https://www.cagesideseats.com/2018/1/11/16880080/stephanie-mcmahon-rich-swann-will-be-released-by-wwe-if-convicted
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Rob Terry - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:12:41 EST ID:gWmWN2jl No.5937176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936812
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Lance Storm - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:18:25 EST ID:Lfj0iaCr No.5937179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Joey Styles - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:20:07 EST ID:qPF0bthP No.5937180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Mister ZERO - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:38:02 EST ID:qpB7mOMV No.5937186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937173
Gotta get the last word in, eh hunter?
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Spardot !SPQRqHx0.E - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:50:18 EST ID:K9VPnSU/ No.5937192 Report Quick Reply
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> Mark Henry, 46, WWE’s previous world’s strongest man winner, who hasn’t wrestled since the Andre Battle Royal and did only three matches last year (Rumble, a TV loss to put over Strowman, and Mania) is pretty much considered retired without any fanfare. Henry is still under a WWE contract. He’s listed for a date with Northeast Wrestling, on 3/2 in Waterbury, CT, for a show that also includes Rey Mysterio, Tenille (formerly Emma, and with that name it’s too bad Lou Albano isn’t around to manage her), Flip Gordon and Matt Riddle. It’s a unique situation. The event is for charity and he’s doing it, but he’s not looking for outside dates and he won’t be wrestling on the show, but will be doing something on the show itself as well as the usual autograph signings that WWE talent often does prior to their shows
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Ruckus - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:50:30 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.5937193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Apple Miyuki - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:58:32 EST ID:Tlg9gWny No.5937197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173

>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.

HHH is beyond a meme at this point, every little thing he does now makes me laugh.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:05:16 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5937201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Alex Shelley - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:24:12 EST ID:qBN6Rx+i No.5937212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Mitch Ryder - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:29:03 EST ID:Q9Y0DPKk No.5937218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Dean Malenko - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:29:13 EST ID:/QRGjWkL No.5937221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937192
>Nothing for Christian
>Nothing for Mark Henry

Man, fuck this company.
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Brian Adams - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:31:30 EST ID:CpRHQRQe No.5937227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937221
it worse for Henry consider they gave the guy a 10 year contract, spent years trying to get out of it and giving him ever shitty gimmick possible, he stuck through and ending up being great by the end.

You can't throw together a video package or something for the guy?
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Celt vs the forces of Badposting !BzcOsK03.w - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:31:41 EST ID:2x34jfxe No.5937228 Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Macho Man Randy Savage - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:32:27 EST ID:wUoY3R1B No.5937229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937173
Such a shame what happened to Swann. He got really over as far as cruiserweights goes, really felt like he could've been a WWE midcarder rather than a cruiserweight division guy. The dancing thing is overdone, but he's really charismatic to the point where the crowd actually cared at least a little bit about him.
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Chri - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:37:41 EST ID:U3SGHK7W No.5937237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937221

They see both as midcarders who were given titles as a thank you.
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Macho Man Randy Savage - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:44:48 EST ID:wUoY3R1B No.5937241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937192
I think Henry might be in the position where he's staying with a contract and getting some kind of coach position at the PC.

Can't forget that he was expensive as fuck, so money is not really an issue for Henry. Should do a double induction for him and beeg.
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Apple Miyuki - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:44:59 EST ID:Tlg9gWny No.5937242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937221

Also Mark Yeaton, Jim Johnston, the list goes on and on. Vince I think has decided to stop pretending he gives or has ever given a fuck about anyone's contributions.
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Ebessan - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:55:14 EST ID:PGT6xUTD No.5937254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937229
When I think about it and try to be reasonable I have to agree with your points, and that it's kind of a shame, but being honest with myself I don't feel bad about not seeing him again in WWE because something about him always rubbed me the wrong way. I barely know anything about the guy, I don't know how to explain it too well and probably sound dumb, but he had this "vibe" about him whenever I saw him on my screen, this "would shank you over a beat up pair of shoes and a can of beans while grinning" kind of vibe that really turned me off. I don't wish the guy harm or a shitty life or anything but I'm selfishly fine with not seeing him in muh mainstream wrasslin any more.
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Alex Shelley - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:56:28 EST ID:qBN6Rx+i No.5937257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937229
Im not worried considering he and his girl are cool and still together.
Unless the state is full of dickwads they should be willing to drop it for both their sake unless they love paperwork and wanna pretend they see that as suspicious to genuinely fuck both their lives up.
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Jackie Gayda - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:04:31 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5937263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937257
this
but as soon as she signs something saying she won't press he needs to get as far from that drunk as possible
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Kevin Dunn - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:09:57 EST ID:RK/o445P No.5937265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936941
So Aries's interpretation of "making more moniez in booming indie market" is back to loltnasomethingyouknowwhatever?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:13:42 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5937266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's an article from PWTorch's Bruce Mitchell about the backstory of Brad Stutts' firing from CWF Mid-Atlantic. Part 1:

>You wouldn’t always know it by listening to or reading wrestling sites like this one, but there’s more to booking than brainstorming money-making ideas for wrestlers. Saturday, Dec. 30 CWF Mid-Atlantic ran their 18th annual “Battlecade” show in front of an energized, turnaway crowd at the CWF Sportatorium in Gibsonville, N.C. The show ended with play-by-play face of the company Brad Stutts getting knocked out by long-time bad-guy manager Coach Gemini (Jeff Rudd) when Stutts left the announce booth to unsuccessfully try to save Trevor Lee from a beatdown by Coach’s All-Stars bully brigade. It was another good night for Stutts’s growing creative reputation. Partly due to his ironic role as the Scribe mime character in TNA in support of Broken Matt Hardy, Stutts was on the radar of the big wrestling companies, and of many ardent wrestling fans.

>A week later, Jan. 6, CWF Mid-Atlantic ran their regular “Rising Generation League” show in front of a crowd in the CWF Sportatorium in Gibsonville, N.C. The night ended – and this is no storyline – with CWF co-owner Jeff Rudd confronting and firing longtime CWF booker Brad Stutts over what the company termed “inappropriate behavior” related to his business and personal relationship with Charlie Hartman (Charlie Armstrong) and his company Gimmick Tree Entertainment. It was a shocking ending to Stutts’s 15 years in the company. Gimmick Tree Entertainment appeared on the local indy wrestling/nostalgia show scene a few years ago and Stutts soon was working for them, helping book shows and legend photo opportunities. Gimmick Tree featured expensive stars such as Sting, Tommy Dreamer, Kurt Angle, Micheal Elgin, and Abyss, and plenty of the best local talent, both male and female.

>Brad Stutts not only worked for the CWF, he picked up piece-meal work from other wrestling companies around the area on weekend off-dates. More and more often though, he was working for Hartman. They began traveling around the country on wrestling trips, like the trek they took to New Orleans to buy the first WrestleMania tickets on-site. What else they were doing – partying (and such) at low-end strip clubs – would become an issue in Stutts’s firing. It’s not unusual for promoters and wrestling companies to appear seemingly out of nowhere, like Hartman and Gimmick Tree did. A wrestling fan gets a family inheritance, or a successful businessman wants to invest his money in something fun, or a starry-eyed fool over-extends his family financial resources. They all want to be friends with famous wrestlers. It usually ends badly.

>When I attended my first Modern Vintage Wrestling show in Gibsonville several months ago it was like being at another CWF show. Trevor Lee was in the main event and Stutts was on play-by-play. The difference was there were fewer fans and both Tommy Dreamer and Michael Elgin were flown in for the show. Even with another show that weekend in Fayetteville helping to lower travel expenses, the show didn’t make financial sense to me. That’s hardly unusual in the wrestling business, and I didn’t think much of it. Gimmick Tree would either sustain itself financially at some point, or go out of business, just like hundreds of wrestling companies before it. I’ve written cautionary columns about these types of promotions over the years and, with Stutts involved, this one seemed more well-run than a lot of them. Charlie Hartman seemed like the kind of guy you would meet at a Ring of Honor house show. It turns out, though, there was more to Hartman than most money-mark promoters.

>Hartman, 34, has been in and out of jail since he was 19 years old, on charges like fraud, burglary, assault, organized fraud, identity theft, and outstanding warrants. He was once sentenced to seven years in jail (and served four). Gibsonville, N.C. is a small town in conservative Alamance County. CWF owners Jeff Rudd and Danny Wenkel were suspicious of Hartman, and of both Stutts’s inconsistent claims about his work with Gimmick Tree and the decline in his CWF work. CWF is a small business. Stutts wasn’t making much money, and Hartman had plenty of cash. In fact, he paid for everything on their wrestling road trips with cash or pre-paid money cards. Stutts turned up for one night’s show with a booking sheet he finished at 4 a.m. that morning. That precipitated Rudd and other CWF creative team members to have to write a completely different show before Stutts arrived. There were bad feelings about that. Gimmick Tree was starting to book more shows in the area, including one on Jan. 20 with Dreamer and Ricky Steamboat. Stutts told Rudd these dates would help CWF too, but Rudd and Wenkel were understandably skeptical.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:14:40 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5937267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937266
>Then there was Stutts’s “inappropriate behavior” with a CWF employee. Anyone who has hung around with the guy knows the phrase, “Just Brad being Brad” and his wife Katie’s sly smile. He’s big personality guy, and he loves women. His proposing that a CWF employee engage in sexual activity for money – something she turned down and something Stutts has subsequently admitted, if hazy on details – was another thing entirely. CWF folks, like many independent wrestling troupes, are closely knit, both professionally and socially, and it didn’t take long for word to spread. Rumors circulated throughout the CWF community, partly driven by Stutts’s foolish action, that Armstrong generated all that cash he had from the infamous Women Seeking Men section of Backpage.com, and that he and Stutts were also recruiting in those dive strip clubs. Stutts says he never saw Hartman engage in anything like this, but at the very least – and, again, Stutts has admitted this – he was blinded by the money and women Hartman had around him.

>CWF owners understandably were concerned that Stutts, at the very least turning a blind eye to Hartman’s business practice, were putting them and their company’s reputation at severe risk. That Hartman might be laundering money for illegal activities through his wrestling companies, and that local police might be very well aware of Hartman’s criminal record or potential activities was an obvious concern among those I’ve talked to for this story. Hartman has never been charged with anything locally, but rumors were everywhere. In the most severe scenario, the local headlines would read “Local Wrestling company personality charged.” Rudd and Wenkel, not to mention everyone else associated with the company, many who grew up in Alamance County, would be painted with the same suspicions.

>When CWF obtained a copy of Hartman’s criminal record, they were shocked at what they found – a rap sheet 57 pages long. The reality of the extensive charges outstripped the rumors. They felt that Stutts had let a criminal into their locker room. Rudd wasn’t the only one furious with Stutts. Trevor Lee lit into him that Saturday night, saying that he had put a company he and a lot of people had built for eighteen years at risk. Lee has built a big match championship resume with CWF and he didn’t do it just for his home promoteon to be stained with this, or even shut down. There were a lot of shocked, heartbroken CWF associates that night, and some relieved ones.

>The CWF wrestlers who were booked on the Jan. 20 Modern Vintage Wrestling local show dropped out of it, almost to a man, and the show was cancelled. CWF will be fine. Trevor Lee, who Stutts has said has a genius for putting together matches, booked his own main event program the last two years and is expected to continue to do so. Arick Royal, Chet Sterling, Roy Wilkins, Snooty Foxx, Ethan Sharpe, Cain Justice, Aaron Biggs, Ric Converse, Arik Andrews, CL Party, and The Dawson Brothers comprise a strong talent base who are over with the local CWF fans. Cecil Miller is ready to take over play-by-play on the weekly CWF Worldwide YouTube show.

>Brad Stutts, who felt Saturday night he was being railroaded out of the company to which he devoted so much talent and energy, had what he calls “a moment of clarity” Sunday about the type of person he wants to be, and how much he has lost his way. He knows that CWF did the right thing firing him, and he has severed his own ties with Charlie Hartman and Gimmick Tree Entertainment. For the first time in his adult life, Stutts has decided to step away from pro wrestling and devote himself to his marriage, his family, and his friends, and to explore life outside his bubble. He wants to be the man his parents raised him to be. He’s decided to be accountable for what he did and he is remorseful about it. He’s talking the talk. Now it’s time for him to walk the walk.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:16:27 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5937269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937267
And here's Charlie Armstrong's response to PWInsider in regards to his business dealings with Brad:

>It was reported earlier this week that CWF Mid-Atlantic had fired booker and announcer Brad Stutts, citing “inappropriate behavior.” PWinsider.com reports that the fallout has also hit Modern Vintage Wrestling. MVW canceled their scheduled January 20 event in the wake of Stutts CWF firing as a number of talents that worked for both promotions announced they were pulling off. MVW’s Charlie Armstrong claimed that the decision to cancel the show was made the same night Stutts was fired by CWF as he realized the wrestlers were going to be put in between the two promotions. There are others who have deputed that story, and the site says that Armstrong has been the subject of a lot of conversation over the last several days, including rumors of alleged illegal activity. He released the following statement…

“In the past several days, there have been many rumors about me circulating among the wrestling community. Although none of these rumors have been made public on social media, they have the same impact on my reputation as if they were. Most have been hurtful and without any proof. The persons who started these rumors did not have the courtesy of speaking to me directly as a man, but rather spread unfounded gossip like a 13-year-old girl. Despite this, I did try to reach out in a mature manner, but unsurprisingly this fell on deaf ears. This situation is out of control and has affected my personal and professional life. These people are trying to ruin my reputation and the relationships I have formed in my business. They are giving people ultimatums to not associate with me or they will be blackballed in wrestling. This is slander and my sole purpose here today to clear the air.

I am not a dishonest person and have always been upfront with who I am. Yes. I do have criminal past. During my 20’s I, like many other people, I did not make the best decisions and landed myself in prison. Why am I telling you this? Well, the persons slandering my name are spreading incorrect information. I am guilty of the serious crimes of burglary and writing bad checks, during a period of my life when I was struggling with drug addiction. I am not guilty of the heinous crimes these people are saying. It is completely fiction and despicable that someone would accuse someone of this with no proof. I’m not making excuses for my actions, but since 2010 I have not been involved with any illegal activity. After I served my time, I have transformed my life. I gained employment and worked to save to start my own business. I work every day towards building my business as well as maintaining employment working as a sales consultant with a satellite company. I maintain insurance on my business and I am fully licensed. I live my life on the straight and narrow every day, so I better myself from the person I used to be.

Now that I have stated the truthfulness to this gossip, most of the claims against me are completely false. I am not the type of person who spreads gossip. I am not here to say what is true or not, just to say I was not involved. There is no way to defend myself with lending some information, however, I am not saying anything these people are spreading is 100% accurate in any way. I work in a business where sometime people have their own agendas for saying and doing things to maintain their status and get ahead. I am sure that for all persons involved in the start of this gossip this is true for all of them.

I have come to learn from several credible sources, the reason for my supposed involvement. This company and myself have both employed Brad Stutts as a booker and announcer. I also have maintained a close friendship with Brad over the past few years. This company has accused Brad of things I am not going to be specific on, but have basically they accused me of the same behavior because of our relationship. I am here to say I had no knowledge of any of this before the rumor had gotten to me. The person who started this rumor did not have any proof that I had any involvement, so the went looking for something to expose about me. They dug into my past and spread my mugshot to people and said I was involved in these heinous crimes I spoke of before. This was none of their business and had nothing to do with the situation. My criminal history is public and not something I hide. It is, however, something I don’t go around telling everyone. In my opinion, the past is in the past. I just try to be a better person and learn from my mistakes.

As far as the accusations made against my friend, Brad Stutts. I am not going to say they are true because I do not know. There are three sides to any story as the saying goes. I do wish him well and hope he finds some peace in all of this. He has resigned from my company and has moved on. I made the decision to cancel my show on January 20th as a professionally courtesy. It wasn’t because I was forced to, but because I felt it the right thing to do to ease some of this drama that has ensued between myself and this company. I don’t think it is fair to involve any of the talent’s livelihood or force them to pick sides. I met with one of the owners of this company yesterday and had a great meeting. We both agreed to go our separate ways and wish each other the very best and he thanked me for my professionalism during our relationship.

In conclusion, I just hope this matter will be put to rest and everyone to move on. I believe everyone makes mistakes in life and deserve a second chance. I believe this because I know what it is like to make mistakes in life and to make them right. I took my second chance in life and made something of it. I did this with hard work and sacrifice. I did not take the easy road and did things the right way. I just want to thank everyone for their continued support and wish everyone the best in life.”

>Armstrong told PWinsider.com that any issues that led to Stutts leaving CWF Mid-Atlantic were completely separate from his relationship to Stutts, and that whatever alleged behavior CWF felt required them to cut ties with Stutts was not behavior Armstrong was involved with and says he had any knowledge of. Armstrong added that he feels a lot of the issues stem from jealousy of Stutts and others getting opportunities outside of CWF Mid-Atlantic through his dealings. He said that he’s attempted to make contact with CWF’s Jeff Rudd to clear whatever issues may stand between them but has not heard back.
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Lance Storm - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:16:59 EST ID:Lfj0iaCr No.5937270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937254
>something about him always rubbed me the wrong way.
>he had this "vibe" about him whenever I saw him on my screen, this "would shank you over a beat up pair of shoes and a can of beans while grinning"
>I don't know how to explain it too well
Are you for real? The answer here is glaringly obvious. Particularly this exact quote;
>"would shank you over a beat up pair of shoes and a can of beans while grinning"
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Crimson - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:27:28 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5937278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937267
>57 pages
Yeah, that sounds like a guy I'd like to be associated with
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Erik Watts - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:33:20 EST ID:cbpWludy No.5937282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937267
Wow that must suck to run an indie and find out there might be other money laundering going on behind your back
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Ruckus - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:33:26 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.5937283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937266
So pic related is Brad Stutts? He looks like the original "tips fedora" guy tbh.
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Big Dick Dudley - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:36:09 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5937286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937283
I was so convinced this was Sean Faust at first glance that making a joke mistaking it for Sean Faust feels hollow to attempt.
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Mister ZERO - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:40:26 EST ID:qpB7mOMV No.5937291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937267
Wrestling is still as carny as ever.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:40:39 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5937292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937278
>>5937282
And the inappropriate behavior wasn't even half of the story. Brad can say that he was blinded by the money and women but his relationship with Charlie put CWF Mid-Atlantic at risk and it's no wonder they fired him.

>>5937283
Yeah that's Brad.
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Bob Backlund - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:42:44 EST ID:7n8r01sQ No.5937295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937229
Such a shame what happened to Benoit. He got really over as far as cruiserweights goes, really felt like he could've been a WWE champion rather than a U.S. division guy. The submission thing is overdone, but he's really technical to the point where the crowd actually cared at least a little bit about him.
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Chavo Guerrero - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:56:33 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5937310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Mister ZERO - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:57:29 EST ID:qpB7mOMV No.5937311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937295
Benoit was never a cruiser. Not even in WCW, although I get what you're going for.
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Octagón - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:01:09 EST ID:cbpWludy No.5937315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah confronting an alcoholic about her bad choices and dragging her out of traffic is basically the same as killing a kid
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Wade Barrett - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:06:16 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5937319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937315
In the current climate of "m-muh sexism" it might as well be
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Golga - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:12:33 EST ID:a2QnF95B No.5937321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Winnipeg has now surpased Calgary for the best of Canadian Wrestling

Thank You Best Bout Machine
Thank You Coolest Dad
Thank You Cyrus Da Virus
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Vladimir Kozlov - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:27:58 EST ID:7n8r01sQ No.5937337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937311

>Benoit was never a cruiser.
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Zeus - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:29:11 EST ID:Oqa/6TkT No.5937339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936795
>2 part timers, the undergeezer and poochie are the last two matches for WM for a second year in a row

holy shit, NJPW BTFO.

>>5936803
>WWE has no problem ripping the previous president ON SCREEN
>WWE has no problem featuring that individual in a president's day vignette AFTER his departure
>WWE suddenly has a problem featuring the current president and WWE hall of famer in any capacity even though it is widely known that the CEO's wife is literally a member of his cabinet

fake tough guys and total pussies everywhere. also, it's fucking EMBARRASSING that the POTUS/a WWE HOF member has his name censored on /wooo/. what a load of horse shit.

>>5936812
>jericho finally has his five star match
>it's with another canadian

the day of the moose may well be upon us.
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Charlie Haas - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:31:08 EST ID:ZYyPRiB6 No.5937340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936837

Didn't the LAAAAAAAAAAAAADEEEEEEEEER MAAAAAAAAAATCH between him and Shawn on No Mercy get 5 stars? I read somewhere that it was MOTY
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Ted DiBiase - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:41:21 EST ID:qpB7mOMV No.5937350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937337
I'm ashamed to say I forgot he was in Best of The Super Jrs.

Forgive me.
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Heidenreich - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:34:44 EST ID:2F2Uz45M No.5937394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
While I believe all business that want to make money should distance themselves from politics because you will have always people who can't separate business from politics it is indeed pretty funny for WWE to do so when the wife of the CEO of the company works for the President, and the President is a close family friend and helped their business multiple times throught out the year. It comes as fake for them to separate themselves from the President but business is business and this days if you don't paint the President in an extreme negative way you are considered an evil nazi by the mainstream media, so from a business sense it makes sense to not showcase him.
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BxB Hulk - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:42:05 EST ID:qBN6Rx+i No.5937401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937339
I laughed
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Joel Gertner - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:46:16 EST ID:360WYuNS No.5937406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936812
I'm legitimately shocked he didn't give Naito vs. Okada a full five stars
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Vladimir Kozlov - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 22:06:47 EST ID:7n8r01sQ No.5937444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937340

Four and a half. They've had like four or five 4 star or more matches in WWE, though.
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Jack Evans - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 22:19:48 EST ID:8KGaNExq No.5937457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where is the new retro raw/nitro review?
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 22:27:46 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5937460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937457
check previous thread, should be there somewhere closer to the end
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El Dandy - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 22:51:45 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5937466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937457
I've uploaded it to the MEGA folder.

https://mega.nz/#F!4zBgGALJ!6dri3Istk26MRQKN_ShyxQ

As a side note, can anybody scoop the latest WOL?

Cheers.
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Joel Maximo - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:21:19 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5937477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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Jay Lethal - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:05:03 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5937502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
new WOR kiwi?
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El Dandy - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:11:53 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5937505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937502
https://my.mixtape.moe/xesbfe.mp3
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BxB Hulk - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:00:52 EST ID:qBN6Rx+i No.5937518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937505
De wae
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Pete Rose - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:28:00 EST ID:fZt2WZvj No.5937525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937505
Thanks son
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Lex Luger - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:44:31 EST ID:4aAtIlGZ No.5937533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936904
WWE doesn't make any money off the secondary market
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Sinister Minister - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:46:18 EST ID:PkoDHT72 No.5937536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
where's that fucking granny show my dudes
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Stinky the Homeless Guy - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 02:16:46 EST ID:5ESIHgr2 No.5937548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936830
meltz is thirsty as fuck for the jackson boi's cummies so no surprise.
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Monster C - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 02:38:35 EST ID:aKL/ZzRZ No.5937560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936968

>daughter of a Hall of Famer

Humor me (or us), what makes her different from Rachel Ellering? She's also a daughter of a
Hall of Famer, performs on the indies plus Impact, NXT and the MYC.
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Not Filthy Tom - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 05:08:47 EST ID:Kq5A3kyI No.5937601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yo is Granny out yet??????????????????
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Devon - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 05:17:55 EST ID:Yy/7/IXm No.5937602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937601
https://www.f4wonline.com/bryan-and-vinny-show/bvg-granny-nxt-thursday-night-potpourri-249711
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Not Filthy Tom - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 05:22:47 EST ID:Kq5A3kyI No.5937604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937602
Thanks, anyone got the free version of it?
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Not Filthy Tom - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:17:17 EST ID:Kq5A3kyI No.5937623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937505
You got B,V & G?
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Sycho Sid - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:23:52 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5937627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937623
Don't you get a free comped sub, not-Filthy man?
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Not Filthy Tom - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:28:42 EST ID:Kq5A3kyI No.5937628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937627
Please don't tell Bryan.
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Sycho Sid - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:49:49 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5937632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937628
Like that GEEK could do anything about it anyway.
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Not Filthy Tom - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:03:29 EST ID:Kq5A3kyI No.5937634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937632
He's much more agile and craftier than you'd think.
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Velvet McIntyre - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:08:40 EST ID:0G0b0hI8 No.5937650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937173
>not calling shovelman "stephanie's wife at the time"
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YOSHIHIKO - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:02:31 EST ID:o1jrWgjw No.5937667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>there is no logical point in doing anything to alienate your fan base.

but thats what they do every night
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Chase Owens - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:06:55 EST ID:l1bvI4Ub No.5937670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936798
God you retards crack me the fuck up
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Ernie Ladd - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:10:52 EST ID:9gYCVRTl No.5937673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The Bryan & Vinny & Granny Show is back today with tons to talk about including Granny's Q&A and WEEKLY WRESTLING REPORT! Then, it's Thursday Night Potpourri covering a great NXT TV show as well as WWF Canadian Stampede from 20 years ago, including memories of almost going to the show but not quite, tons of notes on Brian Pillman from around that time courtesy Liam O'Rourke's new book and more! A fun show as always so check it out~!

https://my.mixtape.moe/qduncp.mp3
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Natalya - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:40:49 EST ID:Q9Y0DPKk No.5937682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937673
>CHRIS BENWAAHHHHHH

Oh man, I thought that was going to be a bad segment, but there can't be a bad granny segment.
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Harley Race - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:02:28 EST ID:KC+6mBhB No.5937712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So does dave love rape and rapists now?
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Prince Iaukea - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:13:27 EST ID:7S8ll2k2 No.5937716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937673
I'm genuinely surprised she didn't ask any questions about Benoit
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xthreedx - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:45:50 EST ID:6V8quJrb No.5937726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937712
Who doesn't?
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Don Muraco - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:57:55 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.5937728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937673
fucking died when Granny said Chris Benoit
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El Dandy - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:27:13 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5937741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937673
Thanks, dude.
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Not Filthy Tom - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:42:31 EST ID:Kq5A3kyI No.5937753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937673
Thank you my brother.
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Steve Corino - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:40:15 EST ID:XW5MZeHX No.5937791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO YOU A LITTLE BITCH
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Ravashing Rick Rude - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:01:55 EST ID:kGBb5YUu No.5937998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking back at the Puder-Angle shoot, how did Dunn or Vince or whoever called the shot to save Kurt from a broken arm get everyone on the same page like that?

It's quite impressive that the refs as well as Tazz and Cole sold that Puder somehow lost that fight with the same horseshit excuse on the fly
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Chief Jay Strongbow - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:09:04 EST ID:umwW4nmU No.5938009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937998
Puder's a little bitch who couldn't make it in MMA so he tried to make a point in tapping an Olympic medalist in a kayfabe match.
The fact is if is Kurt was ready for it, none of this would even be discussed.
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Tsukasa Fujimoto - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:09:31 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5938012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937998
i believe the ref called an audible and shoot pinned Puder when his back was down.

Smackdown was pre taped so there's no proof Tazz and Cole called that live
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Tsukasa Fujimoto - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:10:01 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5938013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938012
i mean shoot counted the pin
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Dos Caras - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:18:49 EST ID:qRLqgUuI No.5938030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938012
Refs all wear earpieces. Someone in production could have told him to count the pin.
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Aero Star - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:52:03 EST ID:/I6QpOie No.5938162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5936842
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Rorschach - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:00:33 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5938169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59CqUFUYFxM
He wasn't told to count the pin, according to the ref himself
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Cassandro - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:21:18 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5938179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ITT no one knows what "snowflake" means
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 22:09:06 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5938307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So has Dave mentioned anything about Brad's firing? Usually he's not as up to date with the indie scene aside from PWG as much as Mike Johnson or even Bruce Mitchell are.
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Dasher Hatfield - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 22:16:16 EST ID:kGBb5YUu No.5938310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938169
Hmm that's interesting. Also fuck Dave on the Owen stuff. Chico was trying to change the subject from something that was super uncomfortable for him to talk about and Dave kept circling back to it like a fucking starving jackal
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Obariyon - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:22:33 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5938338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5938310
>Dave on the Owen
every time I scroll past this I see "Dave the Clown"
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Golga - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 03:32:04 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.5938426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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a thread or two ago somebody posted a link to the audiobook version of The Death of WCW. i had the tab open but i guess i forgot to download it, does anyone still have the link?
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Big Boss Man - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 03:40:35 EST ID:Oh+0vms/ No.5938430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938426
Here is the guy's Mega folder that has the retro shows and Death of WCW. Hope he's cool with me reposting his gift to us.
https://mega.nz/#F!4zBgGALJ!6dri3Istk26MRQKN_ShyxQ
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Frightmare - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 06:21:37 EST ID:fzRfdgNv No.5938478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938310
Jimmy seemed pretty happy to talk about it. Byran only tried to move on once but that's just classic Chico trying to end an interview before the 45 minute mark in time to go teach some kids jiu-jitsu or some shit.
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Jim from Virginia - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 07:42:31 EST ID:Kq5A3kyI No.5938499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938478
Bryan is usually a great handler especially nowadays when Dave goes on tangents. That said I don't know why but I really, really, really want them to do an Eyada Era WOL for when they review RAW 25. Eyada Era Dave was pretty based and the callers were fucking hilarious unlike Ryan and Hamish.
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Golga - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 07:43:33 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.5938502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938430
thanks
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Dino Bravo - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 08:53:36 EST ID:bNpeHV3w No.5938536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938430
What an amazing folder, thank you both.

If the guy is still here, episode 104 seems to be missing.
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Rorschach - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:49:30 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5938566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938478
This. And of course, someone is being autistic in another thread, bitching about Dave asking the question.
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Leia Meow - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:57:51 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5938640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938430
No worries, dude. I'm glad people saved the link.

I don't currently have a subscription to F4W, but I'll keep updating the folder whenever the show gets uploaded to mixtape or WXT.

>>5938536
Fixed. It's now uploaded. Thanks for letting me know.
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WrestlingTheSport - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:47:26 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5938672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Another departure from Impact
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Bret Hart - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:53:16 EST ID:9CTGIug+ No.5938676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938672
Criminally underrated dude. He's still got 5 more years before turning 40 so perhaps he's still got a future somewhere?
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Sara Del Rey - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:55:54 EST ID:Ybchf0OF No.5938678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938676

Rumble's comin' up.
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Gorgeous George - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:56:00 EST ID:bxyTxPfG No.5938679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938566

Do you even know what autistic means or are you just using it as a slur because this is a chan board and you saw everybody else using it as a slur so you added it to your lexicon because you have little to no personality yourself?
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Rorschach - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:13:26 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5938703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938679
I know what it means and if you read the thread I was talking about (Mo Malone thread), you'll see that I'm using it right. Got anymore conjectures to throw? Nb.
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Evan Bourne - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:27:37 EST ID:bNpeHV3w No.5939081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938640
Bless
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Earthquake - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:35:40 EST ID:MqzPS9wc No.5939084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5937173
>“Immediately,” her husband Triple H chimed back in.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:20:25 EST ID:KgrvAXxe No.5939115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
Its a work, In kayfabe Vince still hates Donny
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David Flair - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 02:17:27 EST ID:AlfVuufq No.5939185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938430
Damn dude, you're a champion, thanks for all the work and the link
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Jay Lethal - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 03:24:35 EST ID:V8OanS5J No.5939207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
Where's Lashley?
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Paul Roma - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 08:25:15 EST ID:hj11i0MX No.5939279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5937197

If by "beyond a meme", you mean "a joke", then yes, he's been that for quite some time.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 23:58:05 EST ID:YZbgjZbt No.5939745 Report Quick Reply
WWE signed an Indian kickboxer to a developmental deal - https://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-signs-saurav-gurjar/
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Maven - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 00:53:55 EST ID:ZYyPRiB6 No.5939753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939745

Dude, that kickboxer was in RKK previously as the Commisioner's Bodyguard, Deadly Danda. He used to be the Commish's big muscle along with the Cricket Player/Promoter which /wooo/tube chat affectioately nicknamed as THE MAN CALLED SINGH (and then everyone turned into Singh)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqRcAJJwU4M

Also, shit. I hope this doesn't lead to WWE also eventually snagging one Mahabali Shera too, although maybe a trip to the performance center may make him suck less
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WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 00:57:53 EST ID:p2rQDDW/ No.5939756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939753

Holy fuck Indian Rolento looks kinda badass
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Traci Brooks - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 01:30:21 EST ID:uCx5P64O No.5939762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939756

https://youtu.be/1oefrnkYOHY?t=381 here he is in action back then against the Mumbai Cats, just when he defected from the commissioner and sided with Jeff Jarrett's RDX Faction.
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Christ Sabin - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 01:44:06 EST ID:ZrsPbGVd No.5939763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939753
RKK was fucking awesome, easily the best thing Jarrett has ever done. I wonder what Jwala is up to these days.
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Maven - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 01:50:19 EST ID:ZYyPRiB6 No.5939764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939763

RKK with /wooo/ (and even the old Synchtube) was an incredible fun time and pretty awesome, even though Mahabali Veera (Shera/Khoya in TNA) sucked but had a bunch of WINSLOL moments. The best part was the whole RDX thing (Dutt getting a pair of GOLDEN WINGS), the Bollywood Boyz getting their start and eventually becoming Tag Champs, and Steiner being Steiner (scaring the fans, stiffing the local talent when he ate a poorly-timed Big Boot to the face)
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Ken Patera - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:45:43 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5939785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939764
Don't forget POWERBOMB BABY, I LIKE IT! ==b

>>5939763
I wonder what my nigga Barood is up to these days, dat boi was like a young Indian Dusty Rhodes behbeh.
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Bull Buchanan - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 05:09:19 EST ID:bOlV1uJ0 No.5939791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939763
Seem to remember Jarrett being pinned by former Indian spin bowler Harbajhan Singh. Great times.
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Anarquia - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:37:20 EST ID:d2VA/oj3 No.5939876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939785

BODY SHANDAR BOOT TO THE FACE. The commentators they picked for RKK were pretty hype too yeah

>>5939791

Yeah, didn't that end with Jarrett being tied to a sumo wrestler as Magnus had to wrestle Shera for the championship?
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Jamie Knoble - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:57:48 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.5939887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
RKK was really really great
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Jun Akiyama - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:38:37 EST ID:PTu60nGS No.5939955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5938430
does anyone else have all the
steve austin
cornette
jericho and other wrestling podcast shows
i can grab since most of the older shows i can't access anymore.
since they're behind a paywall rhese days
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Call-Me-Kevin - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:49:17 EST ID:QXIuXozZ No.5939965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>So Jordan's injured but they don't know the injury

https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/1/15/16892898/report-jason-jordan-injured?utm_campaign=cagesideseats&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Seth Rollins is CURSED
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Johnny Curtis - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:50:17 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5939968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939965
#BRINGBACKJIMMY
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Pitbull - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:39:02 EST ID:BcRltgm+ No.5939997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SUNWORDAY?
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:44:21 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5940002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939997
WOR maybe, but also Filthy/Bryan/Vinnie did their Rumble review yesterday presumably since Filthy was Making Towns during the week, that would be nice if someone could get that one too
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Justin King - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:02:07 EST ID:XYvk4pEj No.5940124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Buy a sub ya cheap ass geeks
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Beastie - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:14:02 EST ID:bMZbqkct No.5940130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940124
No.

Make it free with ads like every other single wrestling podcast and news site.
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nottest - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:14:49 EST ID:VT2Ht36Z No.5940131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940124

Alright bryan how much is it per month and what do I get?
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Rey Mysterio - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:23:27 EST ID:cPiyEiHB No.5940137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940130
No that's stupid.
Chico interrupting every WOR to shill geico car insurance and some shitty coffee brand would make him even more unbearable.
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Al Snow - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:23:52 EST ID:7n8r01sQ No.5940139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5940130

>Dave and Bryan shilling for MeUnides.com and Bouqs.com every 15 minutes
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HeartBreakHill !2ImwF6mc9M - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:28:52 EST ID:ZXmeEPMp No.5940143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5939965

HE KEEPS GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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Monty Brown - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:31:02 EST ID:ISVkPzm7 No.5940144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939965
WWE = We Wrestle Enjured
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Justin King - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:31:13 EST ID:XYvk4pEj No.5940145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940139
Dave used to read ad copy on the old over the air WOL in the 90s;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04OYuONWoj4
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Al Snow - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:37:04 EST ID:7n8r01sQ No.5940149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940145

lol that was hilarious to hear. I'm proud of Papa Meltz, and to an extent Bryan, for getting to a point where they don't have to read embarrassing ads during their shows.
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Masked Superstar - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:48:10 EST ID:zdRp7c4j No.5940154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5939965
ONE BY ONE THE RAW ROSTER WILL CONTINUE TO FALL AT THE HANDS OF THE DRAGON
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Lady Apache - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:52:13 EST ID:qfX5xSjT No.5940158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I wonder if Dave Meltzer ever has sex with Misawa's triumphant theme playing in the background.
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Jackie Moore - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:19:54 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.5940185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940158
>Ya know it uuhhmm it feels like it adds to the action. I think it's freakin incredible
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Mark Madden - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:38:51 EST ID:lDsgfoFP No.5940192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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Owen Fart - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:41:41 EST ID:zwoGFhDe No.5940195 Report Quick Reply
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>>5940192

its too far gone


its out of his control now
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Austin Aries - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:41:52 EST ID:VOIUVw1m No.5940197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940158
I think it's MiSu's and he yells KAZE NI NARE as he cums.
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Charles Robinson - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:40:47 EST ID:p+GdtWiz No.5940236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Necro Butcher - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:52:20 EST ID:mT42oYQd No.5940293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939279

They're not mutually exclusive, though I catch your drift. HHH's character has been picked apart, parodied and lambasted for years but you'd think by now he'd be grounded or self-aware to a degree, instead he seems like he's becoming closer to the meme version of himself every day. That whole transcript reads like a parody of how they both speak while 'doing business', Steph even more so.
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:10:31 EST ID:7n8r01sQ No.5940315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940236

Young, not-fat Vinny was quite the handsome man. Who's the fat drunk in the middle?
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Kamala - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:19:28 EST ID:3/mfnZ9V No.5940322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WOR kiwi anyone?
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The Mantaur - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:31:36 EST ID:9zCigD+9 No.5940397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a hard time picturing wwe selling but you know what? Could be good for the product if they sold to someone like fox, it'd probably bring some more eyes, maybe even a diffrent creative team. Might not be bad

Ill miss the six sided ring in anthem, but it was gimmicky honestly. I just thought it looked cool as basic as that is.
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Ox Baker - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:44:53 EST ID:EJ1v9FXH No.5940524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940397
Did FOX stop being a shit company in the past decade or so?
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Tony Atlas - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:49:05 EST ID:QfdOh4Ns No.5940534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5936842
Cringekino right here.
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Classy Freddie Blassie - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:16:20 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.5940627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Penny Banner - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:21:20 EST ID:zdRp7c4j No.5940640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940627
Damn, I want to go to Olive Garden now
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A.J. Styles - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:24:56 EST ID:TEoE/Rwh No.5940644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940627
What is Olive Garden even known for,? Why is it such a big thing in the States?
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Umaga - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:28:34 EST ID:x59Up9sk No.5940648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940644

Unlimited bread sticks
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Trytan - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:29:47 EST ID:/I6QpOie No.5940650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5940644
Italian restaurant that's literally everywhere. Decent-ish food for moderate prices. They're mostly known for giving you unlimited big-ass salad and breadsticks with your meal. It's not the kind of place you would take a date to, but if your parents brought you there for Sunday lunch it would be pretty sweet.
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Naruki Doi - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:30:52 EST ID:FZALZpTn No.5940653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940644
It's expensive bad italian that tastes like cheap bad italian.
They are always reinventing their menu to somehow make it worse.
Their basic pastas are usually okay, but their weird "chef inspired" stuff is always shit and they have the worst breadsticks on the planet.
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A.J. Styles - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:31:36 EST ID:TEoE/Rwh No.5940655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940650
>Italian
Okay then main question now is how good their spaghetti, meatballs, Puzza pr if they’re really feeling Working Class, Cheesesteaks are?
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Trytan - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:34:52 EST ID:/I6QpOie No.5940656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5940655
Who knows?
Everyone just fills up on salad and breadsticks so that by the time your spaghetti comes you're not hungry anymore.
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Naruki Doi - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:37:29 EST ID:FZALZpTn No.5940657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940656
>would you like some cheese on your salad
>eh sure
>would you like some cheese on your minestrone soup?
>eh, no, that's kind of weird
>would you like some cheese on your cheesy pasta tubes full of cheese and covered in cheese?

How do I tell my Olive Garden waiter to fuck off with his cheese?
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Trytan - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 23:41:27 EST ID:/I6QpOie No.5940664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5940657
Use the breadsticks to construct a protective wall around your food.
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Akeem - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 00:11:20 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5940686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
From PWInsider:
> The Tournament final to crown the new WWE United States champion has been bumped off the Royal Rumble PPV.

> The final is being bumped up a week and will take place at the 1/23 Smackdown Live taping at the Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C.

> The semi-finals are set for tonight's episode of Smackdown with Mojo Rawley vs. Bobby Roode and Xavier Woods vs. Jinder Mahal.

Even with what amounts to over six hours (counting the pre-show), there's no room for a match they've had planned for weeks.
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Cody Deaner - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 00:13:55 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.5940688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940686
Congrats to the fans that will be going to the Rumble and will now no longer have to sit through a Roode/Jinder PPV match.
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Henry O. Godwinn - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 00:27:11 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5940703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940686
they probably realized that the show was too fucking long with all those matches and nixed one
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 00:28:23 EST ID:GlkMZlS5 No.5940705 Report Quick Reply
>>5940686
Oh shit I'll be at the US title tournament finals then. Plus it lets Jinder and Bobby on the Rumble match unless they're not on it.
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Genichiro Tenryu - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 00:36:10 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5940712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940686
This is sounding more and more like the Women's Rumble will be on the pre-show with 1 minute intervals.
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Dos Caras - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 00:48:57 EST ID:0TfPUAES No.5940716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone halve the Filth Four where they do the 2005 Royal Rumble?
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Matt Bentley - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 01:27:23 EST ID:qBN6Rx+i No.5940728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940716
Lookin for them scoops about Benoit Eddie & Holly gangin up on that green mmafag eh?
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Jim Johnston - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 03:06:25 EST ID:QjKQcxLd No.5940751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Give me Filth, give me WOR, give me that which I desire
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Vine - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 03:43:59 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5940759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5940751
Bryan's plan of making me resubscribe are almost working at this point.
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Daniel Puder - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 04:55:15 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5940777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5940751
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Justice - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 05:51:47 EST ID:Oh+0vms/ No.5940785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Pulled them off XWT just now and uploaded to my mixtape, enjoy them with some Brandi Rhodes titties, friends!

>The Bryan & Vinny & Granny Show is back today with tons to talk about including Granny's Q&A and WEEKLY WRESTLING REPORT! Then, it's Thursday Night Potpourri covering a great NXT TV show as well as WWF Canadian Stampede from 20 years ago, including memories of almost going to the show but not quite, tons of notes on Brian Pillman from around that time courtesy Liam O'Rourke's new book and more! A fun show as always so check it out~!
https://my.mixtape.moe/efddzb.mp3


>Wrestling Observer Radio with Bryan Alvarez and Dave Meltzer is back with tons to talk about including Smackdown, 205 Live, Samoa Joe's injury, Impact changes with the new tapings, the Young Bucks and Cody and their All In Show, New Japan news and notes and NJPWWorld.com subscribers, UFC this coming weekend and tons more!
https://my.mixtape.moe/lensyj.mp3
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Dognut - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 05:55:01 EST ID:jKdFVdJb No.5940786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940785
Thanks for this always appreciated, you wouldn't happen to have the weekend WOR would you? Didn't see it in XWT
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Justice - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 05:59:30 EST ID:Oh+0vms/ No.5940787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940786
Nope. I don't have a subscription. I just pull stuff from here or XWT.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:36:26 EST ID:E/9SMr7b No.5940802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940786
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/on9qfoq7ld/011518wo.mp3


>Wrestling Observer Radio with Bryan Alvarez and Dave Meltzer is back with tons to talk about including the situation with Paige and WWE, Mauro Ranallo saved from death, Impact taping news and notes, the Shayna Baszler segment on NXT, PWG notes, talent expected to head to WWE, Conor McGregor update, UFC on FS1, Matt Hughes, mailbag and tons more! A fun show as always so check it out~!
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:37:57 EST ID:E/9SMr7b No.5940803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/sno6urnlx1/011618wo.mp3


>Wrestling Observer Radio with Bryan Alvarez and Dave Meltzer is back today with tons to talk about including Raw with the firing and unfiring of Braun Strowman, all the matches and angles leading to the 25th Anniversary of Raw, Impact notes, WWE injuries, list of guys and gals heading in next week, tons of mailbag questions and more! A fun show as always so check it out~!
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Mad Man Pondo - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:54:48 EST ID:fzRfdgNv No.5940805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940802
>>5940803
Good lad. Sunday B&V&F please?
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Skinner - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:13:32 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.5940807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940803
>>5940802
based
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:18:06 EST ID:E/9SMr7b No.5940809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940805
Gotcha

http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/cz31gx3t2c/011418bvshow.mp3


>It's the Bryan & Vinny & Filthy Show! We've got tons to talk about including Royal Rumble 2009 to make up for Tom being out of commission this past Wednesday, NWA World Championship Wrestling from Halloween night 1987 and more! A fun show as always so check it out~!
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Tetsuya Natio - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:47:55 EST ID:NMT17xaC No.5940813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940809
thank you
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Dos Caras - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:43:01 EST ID:0TfPUAES No.5940850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940728
No, I just wanted to heard them talk about the big fuck up in the end of the Rumble.
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Dognut - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:55:21 EST ID:jKdFVdJb No.5940869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940802
>>5940803
Always appreciated good sir. Thanks
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Charly Malice - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 10:02:07 EST ID:8zWNrvzW No.5940871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Alberto El Patron told the Mexican media that his goals for 2018 include possibly doing a radio show in the U.S. aimed at the Hispanic audience.

Imagine the call-ins and the shoots on that big-nosed pussy HHH. Based.
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StarBuck - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 10:15:35 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5940878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/ricochet-joins-wwe-performance-center

Welp, Trevor "Prince King RicoPuma" Mark finally made his dream of becoming a WWE superstar. He's my favorite in-ring performer so I really hope it'll be worth it.
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Cody Deaner - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:07:25 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.5940902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Kevin Owens has missed the last two nights of WWE Smackdown Live events due to what was described as an existing injury the former Universal champion has been working through, PWInsider.com has learned

>Owens appeared on the first night of the Smackdown Live tour this past weekend in Hildalgo, Texas but did not appear the second night in Hildalgo or Monday night in Corpus Christi, Texas.

>The belief among those I've spoken with is that it's not considered a serious issue and that WWE likely pulled Owens as a preemptive measure to insure he would be OK and healthy for the 1/28 Royal Rumble, where Owens and Sami Zayn are slated to challenge WWE champion AJ Styles in a handicap match in the main event for the Smackdown brand on the joint PPV in Philadelphia.

>All signs are Owens will appear in some capacity at tonight's Smackdown Live taping, but similar to Jason Jordan on Raw, he may be relegated to a non-physical role. That will be determined later today.

https://www.pwinsider.com/article/114824/injury-requires-another-wwe-star-to-be-pulled-off-live-events.html?p=1
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Johnny Grunge - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:41:22 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5940930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940902
BRYAN STOP
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Johnny Grunge - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:42:17 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5940931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940878
Oooooohoohoohoohoo, catty!
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Nikki Bella - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:48:17 EST ID:4whUyJgM No.5940940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940878
>no haitch handshake pic
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Johnny Grunge - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:56:02 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.5940945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940940
He's fucked.
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Ernie Ladd - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:59:09 EST ID:kze4kM1r No.5940948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940878
Hopefully they call him up real quick
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Bully Ray - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:26:12 EST ID:jiWIWV6A No.5940979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940627
Is he planning on visiting Justin Credible
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Lacey - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:38:10 EST ID:A6CYoVLN No.5940988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940940
That's not until his first night at an NXT taping.
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Mona - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:56:42 EST ID:HgB9cxq7 No.5941001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940878
Meh, can't remember the last time I enjoyed a Ricochet match. Probably in LU against Rey
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Justice - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:02:46 EST ID:Oh+0vms/ No.5941007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5940878
>not mentioning that he's the only non-Japanese wrestler to ever be the Open the Dream Gate champion.
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Mean Gene Okerlund - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:03:51 EST ID:9CTGIug+ No.5941008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/war-machine-join-wwe-performance-center

Aand next up...
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StarBuck - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:06:14 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5941012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941007
WWE FEARS DRAGON GATE
CAN'T LET THAT TERRITORY GET TOO BIG
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Karen Jarrett - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:19:13 EST ID:b+hOtD+V No.5941031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941008
war machine vs heavy machinery vs aop vs sanity

im hard but im not ready
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Hector Guerrero - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:21:12 EST ID:8uDxvx2i No.5941035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941031

Would the ring be even able to handle that much BEEF
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Genichiro Tenryu - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:23:34 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.5941039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941008
Oh man, can't wait for them to be squashed by The Bludgeon Brothers and be buried on commentary as copycats.
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Henry O. Godwinn - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:43:08 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5941097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5941008
>the inevitable War Machine vs. Heavy Machinery match

so much fucking BEEF in the ring at once I couldn't handle it
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Prince Iaukea - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:49:06 EST ID:4cxhBa2q No.5941103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941008
war machine is awesome tho so good luck and hopefully it will be a fun ride.
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Angelina Love - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:08:12 EST ID:s71xx5G2 No.5941115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940878
Hmm. He said a year or so ago that the one point he refused to move on was that he didn't want to be put on 205 Live and that's why he was skeptical about signing at the time.

Either he doesn't have to get squashed by Enzo or he had some sort of change of heart and now wouldn't mind being squashed by Enzo.
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Jim Cornette - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:21:51 EST ID:DZPRrGMm No.5941126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.wwe.com/article/wwe-signs-candice-lerae?sf179378716=1

Mrs Johnny Wrestling
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Cheech Hernandez - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:23:15 EST ID:JcdKU4IF No.5941127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5940878

I love Ricochet, but just wait until Vince hears his accent after they force him to cut a long promo. Honestly, I don't see him any higher than 205 Live.
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Dude Love - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:27:41 EST ID:bNpeHV3w No.5941129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941115
He probably thinks by the time he goes to the main roster 205 won't be around anymore.
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Kobald - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:10:16 EST ID:ERBl/YLj No.5941161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>All these injuries
>Reigns named in steroid bust
BIG RUMBLE POSSIBLE SPOILER
Bryan's odds of winning the Rumble went from 66/1 to 9/1

Happening?
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Mean Gene Okerlund - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:27:03 EST ID:9CTGIug+ No.5941170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5941161
>tfw there's a possibility of Bryan/Lesnar finally happening
>there's also a possibility of Bryan/Styles happening
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Sexxxy Eddy - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:32:20 EST ID:i2L7x/5J No.5941176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941161
>Happening?
No
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StarBuck - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:34:12 EST ID:ik5sCINv No.5941178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Hidalgo-County-TX/Joshua-Samuel-Fatu.163569766.html

It's the U So penitentiary uce.
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Finlay - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:35:45 EST ID:soBJaz4P No.5941180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941178
Jey don't get fucked up , I WANT you and jimmy to be champions.
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David Arquette - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:37:55 EST ID:WqSN7Cvz No.5941182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941178
living the gimmick brother
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C. Red - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:48:04 EST ID:EKidecEp No.5941191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5939955
Most of the best episodes are on Youtube, usually. But I think maybe all of Jericho's old episodes are accessible now since he moved to a different network.
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Henry O. Godwinn - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:54:04 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5941199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941178
DAY
ONE
ISH
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:54:48 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5941203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941178
>race: White
lolwhat. Is the Pacific Islander demographic not a thing anymore?
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Rodney Mack - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:55:16 EST ID:VOIUVw1m No.5941204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5941178
Did police ask him what 'H' is?
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Ultimate Warrior - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:18:47 EST ID:2NKerDX4 No.5941234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone got the Pillman book Meltzer show?
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Booker T - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:21:06 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5941236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>5941178
Fuck's sake
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Daisuke Harada - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:24:06 EST ID:ftQT/o33 No.5941237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941178
>Race: White
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Cassandro - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 20:05:24 EST ID:7n8r01sQ No.5941388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941126

Been watching her in PWG for over a decade now, makes me happy she finally achieved that dream and they dropped that petty grudge against her for blading in her Guerilla Warfare match against the Bucks. She's not the best female worker, but she works hard and is entertaining so good on her.
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Sugar Dunkerton - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 00:15:49 EST ID:s71xx5G2 No.5941581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Cornette doesn't absolutely despise Shark Boy and actually thinks he could work.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tCm2MYu3gJM

I don't know what's more shocking between Corny not burying Shark Boy and him not burying Necro Butcher.
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Fritz Von Erich - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 01:04:38 EST ID:9gYCVRTl No.5941595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Bryan & Vinny & Craig Show is back today with tons to talk in our look back at RAW AND NITRO FROM 19 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK! Two pretty good shows -- one of which Bryan actually thought was a GREAT SHOW until he recapped it again and discovered his error, perhaps the best intergender match of all time, and tons more! A fun show as always so check it out~!


https://my.mixtape.moe/dtfiid.mp3
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Pacman Jones - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 02:17:52 EST ID:b+hOtD+V No.5941616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941581
Corny has a weird mentality
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Tony Atlas - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 02:22:26 EST ID:XgcBkFSC No.5941618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941581
>Not linking the much superior clip of him burying Gymini/Johnsons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igvR2CgHZYU
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Bam Bam Bigelow - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 03:35:08 EST ID:L1p3yFsh No.5941631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941618
I like that he's unaware they were NWA tag champs too.
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Atsushi Kotoge - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 03:46:22 EST ID:+pCv121O No.5941637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941178
>race:white

so they do inflate the statistics..
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Duke Droese - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 04:16:45 EST ID:Oh+0vms/ No.5941641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941631
>2002 "NWA"
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Leia Meow - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 06:13:10 EST ID:kfW81PRA No.5941665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941178
Pacific Islander is obviously way closer to Asian. I 100% guarantee they thought he was Hispanic since they are classified as white in Texas crime reports.
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Brian Adams - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 06:58:51 EST ID:3ZrX/VY6 No.5941671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941637
They inflate the white and deflate the non-white. Makes me think...
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Lance Storm - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:12:04 EST ID:EKidecEp No.5941709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941581
He likes a lot of guys as people even if he hates their work or gimmicks. Like, he's mentioned numerous times he thinks the Young Bucks are nice kids, despite all the shit between them on Twitter and elsewhere.
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Dory Funk Jr. - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:44:30 EST ID:5TjKLXUe No.5941715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941595

God, Alvarez is such a bitchy cunt, skips over everything he watches, doesn't pay attention and just fucking whines about everything in the hopes of coming out with a new epic rant.
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Adam Bomb - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:41:56 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.5941741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941715
Being a whiny cunt is his gimmick. He has the classic Napoleon complex where he has to make up for the fact that he's tiny with an overbearing personality.
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Pope D'Angelo Dinero - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 12:22:20 EST ID:kxp48ub+ No.5941767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941741
Been reading old ff weekly from like 01 when he was still wrestling and it physically hurts sometimes. One issue he reviewed a dvd of his own matches that he was selling through the newsletter.
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Seth Rollins - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 12:35:04 EST ID:NMT17xaC No.5941773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941595
thank you
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Road Warrior Animal - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:24:44 EST ID:kGBb5YUu No.5941796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When do the WON awards come out?
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Billy Kidman - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:15:22 EST ID:kZWaWoyr No.5941841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941715
People like you are the real whiny cunts. He's reviewing some shitty material, of course he complains and skips over irrelevant stuff.
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Timothy Well - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:53:51 EST ID:9gYCVRTl No.5942122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Filthy Four Daily with Bryan Alvarez and Filthy Tom Lawlor is back today with tons to talk about including a full recap of Smackdown, Royal Rumble 2010, and a discussion about why the CHOPPIN BLOCK might be a good idea, but maybe not. And, some songs! A fun show as always so check it out~!

https://my.mixtape.moe/gqkgkk.mp3
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Paul Orndorff - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:25:32 EST ID:8TmOam78 No.5942174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5942122
>>5941595

Thanks my dude, much appreciated.
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Heidenreich - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:23:20 EST ID:ji7FZisf No.5942195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5941796
They'll be out next Wednesday most likely. Long shot the 31st.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 23:34:13 EST ID:Ux0uA2Pd No.5942202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5942122
great thanks.

What did Dave have to say about the Mixed Match? In terms of figures and what not; I figure Dave knows what WWE was expecting out of the Mixed Match, and we know they had over 130k viewers so iduno if WWE was happy with that or not.
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Karen Jarrett - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 00:20:17 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.5942219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5942195
Because of the new format they will take longer than that.

They come when they come.
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Octagón - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 02:11:45 EST ID:MPF03o6z No.5942277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5942122
can somebody upload this on kiwi? mixtape fucking sucks
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Pete Rose - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 03:00:39 EST ID:AAIDlg8a No.5942304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5942202
He said buy the fucking newsletter you cheapskate
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Drew Gulak - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 05:16:07 EST ID:wlMJY+qP No.5942367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5942122
AND HE'S CHOPPIN
AND CHYOPPIN'
AND CHYOPPIN'
AND CHYOPPIN'


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