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THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE (13TH APRIL '18) by Sayaka Obihiro - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:03:43 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6021509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The first few posts are from this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter. For the full newsletter and much more get a subscription at http://www.f4wonline.com/
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> The length of time for Brock Lesnar's new contract was not revealed because, if it was, one could pretty much pinpoint the plan as to when he will drop the title. An agreement was reached on 4/2 in Atlanta before Raw for a short-term deal. What we know about the deal is that the key thing on it is the 4/27 Greatest Royal Rumble show, where he defends in a cage match against Reigns. We also know it is not listed as a one-match deal, although it wouldn’t shock me if it turns out that way, and the deal does end before SummerSlam. It also allows Lesnar to negotiate one UFC fight while under contract. Obviously, the fight would be taking place after his WWE contract is over.

> The script for WrestleMania and production meeting for the main event was for Reigns to pin Lesnar after bouncing off the ropes and hitting a fifth spear in the match. Instead, he came off the ropes, and Lesnar picked him up, hit a sixth F-5 in the match, and got the pin.

> The referee, Chad Patton, was tipped off while inside the ring at the start of the match. He was told, but not exactly told. When they were all in the ring, Lesnar said to him something along the lines of, make sure to count three when the shoulders are down, which he never would have needed to say if Lesnar was getting pinned after a bunch of spears as everyone was told. It’s somewhat similar to the story of Lesnar’s win over Undertaker four years ago, where the ref’s instructions were to count the pin and that it was the job of the wrestlers to get their shoulders up. Michael Hayes, who laid out the match with Lesnar, Reigns and Heyman, reportedly was not told and they laid the match out with a finish set up with Reigns winning after several spears.

> When it was over, everyone was shocked, but they knew it was an F-5 and Reigns didn’t kick out, and it was clear Lesnar didn’t go into business or go against the script. Still, when Lesnar hit the Gorilla position, he did throw the belt at Vince McMahon and it hit the wall, and there were a few words said. There were explanations given as to why Lesnar was mad, but it could very well have just been that they were working the people backstage, although the story being told is Vince was not aware nor expecting it, and obviously, Shane McMahon wasn’t. Lesnar and Heyman continued walking to the back and got in their SUV and were driven off. Shane McMahon, who didn’t know anything, was furious at what he perceived as an attempt to intimidate his father, and did go after them, but they were already gone and there was no confrontation. The belief is that Lesnar didn’t even know Shane went after him until they got word much later, long after he was gone, from people who were there watching Shane take off.

> McMahon and Reigns both agreed to allow Lesnar to give the elbows to the head and draw the hardway juice. Given the lumps on his head the next day, he took real shots, and if they did a secret pre-existing blade job, it would be one cut, not two, and it would be a clean cut, rather than an ugly cut that comes from an elbow shot. Realistically a blade job is actually less barbaric, even if to the public it isn’t, than laying there and waiting to take elbow shots to the hairline, and far less dangerous, particularly in a business that on one hand takes precautions against concussions, and then does this. The German announcers were obviously not clued in on what happened at their table, and that did become a news story.

> As of 4/9, the WWE Network was at 1,808,000 total subscribers and and also had 316,000 free subscribers based on the strong free push on television. Both are worldwide numbers, not domestic. Because the splits weren’t announced, right now there is no way to know if the increase from last year is primarily new markets, or existing markets like the U.S. Last year, the day after WrestleMania, those numbers were 1,661,000 paid and 288,000 free. From New Year’s Day to WrestleMania, they picked up a net addition of 335,000 subscribers, up from 258,000 last year.

> There are two things to note. There were a ton of gimmicks done over the past three months to build up the paid numbers, by offering 99 cents, $1.99, $2.99 and $9.99 total offers at different times for three months. Those subscribers are listed as paid. Really, until August, when you can compare revenues from the first two quarters, you really don’t know what this means other than to those not delving into things are looking at it closer, it is a nine percent increase in paid subscribers,

> The live attendance was announced as 78,133 fans with a gate of $14.1 million. WWE exaggerates live attendance, usually between 10,000 and 15,000, although according to police records, two years ago the exaggeration was 20,000 (the building itself claimed the exaggeration was only 8,000). The live gates are legit, although they do include ticket surcharge revenues which most sports that announce gates don’t add into things. The gate would be the third largest in pro wrestling history, trailing the record of $17 million two years ago in Dallas and the $14.5 million last year in Orlando. WWE announced it as the largest “entertainment” gate in the history of the building, meaning for this day it wasn’t sports and you eliminate things like Super Bowls or Final Fours that have also taken place in the building. It’s still a monster number.
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Too Cold Scorpio - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:12:26 EST ID:WWmNOnR8 No.6021513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021509
Brock is the fuckin man
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Sayaka Obihiro - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:12:47 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6021514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021509
> NXT TakeOver drew a sellout of more than 12,000 paid to the Smoothie King Arena in New Orleans.

> The 4/7 ROH show drew a paid attendance of 5,879 fans, sold out several days in advance, and had more than 6,000 in the building, breaking the company attendance record of 3,500 set in Lakeland, FL, over last year’s WrestleMania weekend for a Young Bucks vs. Hardys ladder match.

> Because of the technical issues with Honor Club streaming, ROH provided $40 coupons for merchandise at their pro shop to the VIP members and $10 for all other subscribers as make-goods.

> WWE announced they will be broadcasting two U.K. shows live, on 6/18 and 6/19, at Royal Albert Hall in London, which holds about 4,000 fans and was the big venue for wrestling in the 60s. This will be the first WWE U.K. shows since the original tournament for the title, and will crown the first WWE King of the Ring since 2015. It is believed it will be an eight-man tournament of U.K. contracted wrestlers.

> This comes on the heels of ITV is making noises of starting something again, and two sources have said that they've told wrestlers they have under contract they are looking at doing a taping as soon as next month. Whenever that happens, WWE gets aggressive in the market and that happened again this time. Talent under ITV contract has been told about plans for May, with the idea of taping ten one-hour television shows over a three-day span. Nothing else has been said to the talent, and there have been a number of plans and things said about the ITV television deal that have never come to fruition.

> There is the belief a lot of new U.K. talent will be looked at and some will be signed in May after tryouts take place the next European tour, and that WWE is close to its own television deal for the U.K. version of the product and that this tournament will be the start of regular tapings and not just a one-time deal, and that they would then run regular tapings and perhaps shows.

> Those in the U.K. feel the scene is going to be changing very soon, with WWE more aggressive if ITV starts, and the U.K. talent under WWE being more restricted what groups they can work for. Time will tell how this all shakes up as WWE in the U.K. up to this point has been more open about their contracted talent working places other than Progress and ICW, where they have financial ties, which is a different m.o. than the old WWE would do. Still, the belief is WWE strongly wants to control the top tier of the indie side and be the only people with television.

> There is also the logical situation of WWE running on ITV, as ITV has been looking for a promotional partner. WWE can supply the biggest name talent and it would be fantastic local exposure. The question becomes whether or not Sky has exclusivity on WWE in the market through its deal expiring at the end of 2019.

> Kazuchika Okada, Tiger Hattori, Red Shoes Unno, Minoru Suzuki, Hiroshi Tanahashi and Tomohiro Ishii all went to WrestleMania to see the show because of the A.J. Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura match

> Two people at the WrestleMania post-show party said that Mickey Gall, the UFC fighter who beat C.M. Punk, was there and the reporters were not kind to him, saying he was acting like a jerk and screaming about not signing anymore autographs. He and his entourage caused a scene to the point that people were waiting for someone to get in their faces, but it didn't happen. He was irate and screaming at people outside the party as well. Security came and his entourage then calmed him down. There were people filming this but there was no confrontation with anyone. Aside from that, this was said to be by far the tamest party overall in years

> Another incident took place the night before WrestleMania, involving Alicia Fox and Travis Browne, the husband of Rousey. At about 12:30 a.m., Fox had gotten in an argument with somebody who was with Browne, but it wasn’t much and nobody thought much about it. About two hours later, both ended up in the same place. Fox came up to Browne and started yelling at him and made a scene. Browne didn’t know what was going on. It then got diffused. They were not happy with Fox. Rousey wasn’t with Browne at the time as he was about drinking with friends. She is still a few weeks from being cleared from breaking her tailbone at the rehearsal for the women’s Royal Rumble in January

> Orlando is making a play to once again host WrestleMania soon, after doing so in 2008 and 2017. Orange County, Florida’s tourist development sports incentive committee ha requested a $1 million increase in resort taxes in the city (fees added to sales of hotels, motels or other short-term sales that go to Visit Orlando, the area’s tourism and marketing agency) to use to bring back WrestleMania in either 2023 or 2025

> The movie "Blockers" which stars Cena opened this past weekend doing $20,556,350, which was considered a good open for a movie that had a $21 million budget. It was third for the weekend at the box office behind "A Quiet Place" and "Ready Player One.
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Tamina - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:12:52 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.6021515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021509
>The German announcers were obviously not clued in on what happened at their table, and that did become a news story.
what did he mean by this?
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Madusa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:13:15 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.6021516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>shane chasing down brock
those concussions are really getting to him
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Mike Chioda - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:15:35 EST ID:MYzf/VkS No.6021517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The script for WrestleMania and production meeting for the main event was for Reigns to pin Lesnar after bouncing off the ropes and hitting a fifth spear in the match. Instead, he came off the ropes, and Lesnar picked him up, hit a sixth F-5 in the match, and got the pin.

I know for a fact this isn't true.
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Madusa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:16:32 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.6021518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021517
please do tell
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Sayaka Obihiro - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:17:07 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6021519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021509
> Heyman did a talk show on 4/6 in New Orleans, and both Jim Ross and Rob Van Dam showed up with him. There is talk of him doing more like this. The most interesting story is that he said he was going to return to WWE television prior to the 2002 WrestleMania to manage Chris Benoit, and not Brock Lesnar. He said in the weeks before, he had been giving Lesnar advice claiming that the agents at the time were clueless and saw Lesnar as being someone like the Warlord, a big powerhouse and were wanting to him to that kind of a stand there and do power moves style. He said that Vince then put him with Lesnar instead. It should be noted that at the time of the 2002 WrestleMania, that was when Benoit was out of action with neck surgery and he didn't return until two months after WrestleMania.

> This led to a guy in the crowd screaming something positive about Benoit and Heyman jumped on him, saying that three people died due to Benoit and two of them had no choice in the matter. Then someone shouted it was CTE and Heyman said that was irrelevant to this discussion. He said as a performer, Benoit was great. As a human being he was not, "so f*** him." It should be noted that while Heyman was at one point a teacher to Chris Benoit, he was very close with both Nancy Benoit and her sister Sandra and was probably the closest person in the wrestling community that I know of to Sandra

> Regarding merchandise sales, Cena is still far and away No. 1. Styles and Reigns right now duel for the No. 2 spot so Styles is probably making a ton of money right now. The New Day are also very strong performers in that regard and guys like Balor, Rollins and Strowman also do very well

> There is some talk of Bam Bam Bigelow going into the Hall of Fame next year. The idea is that when WrestleMania was coming to New Jersey, where Bigelow is from, that it would be more fitting to do it next year than this year, and Mark Henry was added when the decision was made to not do Bigelow this year

> They also announced a second Mae Young Classic women's tournament for this summer. It makes sense since they just completed a cruiserweight tournament and a tag team tournament. Plus, if they bring in top indie male talent for a tournament, if it's the top guys, there's no guarantee they can sign them if they want them like happened with Zack Sabre Jr. and Kota Ibushi in particular.

> With the women, while it's possible there were one or two who did well in the tournament who weren't interested in WWE, it's not like they are nearly as high profile on the world scene. With possibly one or two exceptions, like maybe the ones who are pushed to the top at Stardom, virtually every woman wrestler wanting to make a career would jump at the shot at a WWE developmental-level deal, while the top male indie guys make far more than a WWE developmental-level deal

> On the upcoming Hardys DVD release, there will be Impact footage as WWE reached a deal with them for use of the footage. That may also explain the willingness to name drop TNA, although it was in a very backhanded way and they still didn’t allow Jeff Jarrett to talk about TNA in his Hall of Fame speech

> WWE was scouting Shimmer on 4/7 for the tournament and future signings. Tessa Blanchard was said to be the standout. She was one of the best women in the Mae Young Classic, so they know about her and obviously there is a reason they didn't sign her after initially showing interest last year. Blanchard even cut a promo on an indie show a few months ago and talked about attitude issues that people were saying. She's still young and at this point she has the look and charisma and real star potential, not to mention the last name and second generation aspects that they like. The other women who stood out on the show like Mercedes Martinez were also in last year's tournament

> Jazzy Gabert, who got over huge at last year’s Mae Young Classic, was offered a contract, but then had the offer rescinded due to medical reasons due to serious issues discovered with her neck, has said that after her recovery from recent surgery that in October, she will make a final try to get a WWE deal.

> WWE did a lot of filming for Total Divas in New Orleans. Sonya Deville, Mandy Rose, Paige and Lana are all in the cast for next season since they were all being filmed. Liv Morgan may be as well. Lana and Liv Morgan were both there filming for an episode of Total Divas. Lana arrived very late in the night as I never saw her or anyone filming, but Morgan was there earlier.

> Moose was supposed to film stuff from WaleMania for Twitch for Impact and Impact had advertised it taking place but had never asked for permission and the Impact cameras were not allowed in, although Moose (who was supposed to be filmed there) and Eddie Edwards were both there. Impact said that the reason they didn't film was the lighting was bad to save face

> Brian Kendrick has been cleared to return after his broken orbital gone suffered taking the GTS from Itami. Notable is that Itami has done the move safely for years and we were told it was Kendrick taking it wrong that caused the injury, but Itami hasn't been using it since

> Another note at WrestleMania is that a number of women wrestlers were sitting together and a large drunk fan during the Rousey match started saying very disrespectful things about Rousey and women in general. Kay Lee Ray got in his face and started yelling at him for disrespecting women and that she wasn't going to stand for it. The drunk fan sat down and didn't say another word about Rousey or women. Later in the show, the fan started swearing in an argument with a friend and Ray got in his face again to tell him there were children right there. The guy then sat down and went quiet and shortly after left the area

> Whether this happens or not remains to be seen but there is a pitch for Wyatt to turn on Matt Hardy and then be the leader of the Sanity group

> Based on the network number announcement, the stock on 4/10 closed up $1.65 per share to $38.68, giving the company a market value of $2.984 billion. With that kind of a market value and an expectation of a strong new television deal, there is a belief the stock is going to be up significantly when the new deal or deals come out in a few months.

> The top ten most-watched shows on the network this past week were: 1. WrestleMania; 2. NXT Takeover New Orleans; 3. WWE Hall of Fame; 4. NXT Takeover preshow; 5. WrestleMania's Greatest Moments; 6. WWE Chronicle: Shinsuke Nakamura; 7. Ride Along with Bobby Roode, A.J. Styles, Jinder Mahal and Sunil Singh; 8. WrestleMania 2017; 9. WWE 24 Empowered; 10. Royal Rumble 2018. With all the Mania stuff, the Mixed Match Challenge final match was 11th, the NXT TV show for 4/4 was 14th and 205 Live this past week didn't even crack the top 20
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Lance Bravado - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:17:27 EST ID:GL2EqowE No.6021520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Can someone explain to me why they would rather have a man deliver shoot strikes to someone's head to bust them open instead of doing the far more safer option and blading, especially when concussions are a huge thing nowadays.
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Chiva IV - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:20:57 EST ID:odXQPvvk No.6021521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021509
God, this is WCW tier bullshit where no one knows what's a work. Vince can't fuck off soon enough.
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Soldier Ant - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:23:19 EST ID:U+A/TOl1 No.6021524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021520
So that they can claim it was an "accident" if a sponsor starts complaining about the blood
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Krissy Vaine - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:24:52 EST ID:vY5Ki6xk No.6021525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021517
You weren't even reffing the main even Chioda you hack!
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Lance Bravado - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:25:25 EST ID:GL2EqowE No.6021526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021524
But everyone know that the elbows are a worked shoot.
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Repo Man - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:25:32 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6021527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021519
> This led to a guy in the crowd screaming something positive about Benoit and Heyman jumped on him, saying that three people died due to Benoit and two of them had no choice in the matter. Then someone shouted it was CTE and Heyman said that was irrelevant to this discussion. He said as a performer, Benoit was great. As a human being he was not, "so f*** him."

Thank you, based Heyman.

> Another note at WrestleMania is that a number of women wrestlers were sitting together and a large drunk fan during the Rousey match started saying very disrespectful things about Rousey and women in general. Kay Lee Ray got in his face and started yelling at him for disrespecting women and that she wasn't going to stand for it. The drunk fan sat down and didn't say another word about Rousey or women. Later in the show, the fan started swearing in an argument with a friend and Ray got in his face again to tell him there were children right there. The guy then sat down and went quiet and shortly after left the area

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a fucking dick Kay Lee should have punched the fucker in his face.

> Whether this happens or not remains to be seen but there is a pitch for Wyatt to turn on Matt Hardy and then be the leader of the Sanity group

...not sure how to feel about this.
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TAKA Michinoku - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:25:35 EST ID:7jzLU45d No.6021528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021519
>making Sanity the new Wyatt Family
In a company full of bad ideas, this is exceptionally terrible
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Mike Chioda - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:25:42 EST ID:MYzf/VkS No.6021529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021520
He did draw, Lesnar tagged it.
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Sayaka Obihiro - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:26:33 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6021530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021509
WWE WrestleMania 34 Star Ratings:
> Matt Hardy won the Andre the Giant Battle Royal in 16:35. *1/2
> Cedric Alexander pinned Mustafa Ali in 12:15 to win the vacant cruiserweight title. ***
> Naomi won the women’s Battle Royal in 9:38. *1/2
> Seth Rollins won the IC title in a three-way over champion The Miz and Finn Balor in 15:35. ***1/2
> Charlotte Flair beat Asuka in 13:04 to keep the Smackdown women’s title. ****
> Jinder Mahal won a four-way to win the U.S. title over champion Randy Orton, Rusev and Bobby Roode in 8:13. **3/4
> Kurt Angle & Ronda Rousey beat HHH & Stephanie McMahon in 20:26. ****1/4
> Luke Harper & Erick Rowan won the Smackdown tag titles over champs The Usos and Big E & Kofi Kingston in 5:54. **
> Undertaker pinned John Cena in 2:46. *1/4
> Daniel Bryan & Shane McMahon beat Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn in 15:22, so Owens & Zayn remain fired. ***1/2
> Nia Jax pinned Alexa Bliss in 9:02 to win the Raw women’s title. **3/4
> A.J. Styles pinned Shinsuke Nakamura in 20:10 to retain the WWE title. ***3/4
> Braun Strowman & Nicholas beat Sheamus & Cesaro to win the Raw tag titles in 3:55. *
> Brock Lesnar pinned Roman Reigns in 15:53 to retain the Universal title. ***

WWE NXT TakeOver: Neo Orleans Star Ratings:
> Chuckie T pinned Jonathan Gresham in 8:49. **
> Adam Cole won a six-way ladder match to become the first holder of the new version of the North American title over Ricochet, EC 3, Killian Dain, Lars Sullivan and Velveteen Dream in 31:16 ***** FIVE STAR MATCH
> Shayna Baszler beat Ember Moon to win the women’s title in 12:55. ***1/4
> Adam Cole & Kyle O’Reilly won a three-way over Authors of Pain and Roderick Strong & Pete Dunne to retain the NXT tag titles in 11:42. ***1/4
> Aleister Black pinned Andrade Cien Almas in 18:19 to win the NXT title ****1/4
> Johnny Gargano pinned Tommaso Ciampa in 36:58 of an unsanctioned match to get his job back in NXT ***** FIVE STAR MATCH

ROH Supercard of Honor XII Star Ratings:
> Chuckie T pinned Jonathan Gresham in 8:49 **
> Punishment Martinez pinned Tomohiro Ishii in 8:29 **3/4
> Kota Ibushi pinned Hangman Page in 15:12 ****1/4
> Sumie Sakai pinned Kelly Klein to become the first Woman of Honor champion in 7:15 *1/4
> Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian & Scorpio Sky beat Young Bucks & Flip Gordon in 24:20 to retain the six-man titles in a ladder match ****1/2
> Mark & Jay Briscoe beat Hiroshi Tanahashi & Jay Lethal to retain the ROH tag titles in 19:40 ***1/4
> Silas Young beat Kenny King in a last man standing match in 15:56 to keep the TV title ***
> The Dawgs (Rhett Titus & Will Ferrara) went to a no contest with Bully Ray & Cheeseburger in 2:55 NOT RATED
> Cody pinned Kenny Omega in 37:09 ****1/4
> Dalton Castle pinned Marty Scurll to retain the ROH title in 31:39 **3/4
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Call-Me-Kevin - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:26:58 EST ID:JaYozsOT No.6021531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
fucking what
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Sayaka Obihiro - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:28:35 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6021533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://paste.ee/r/uMuEd/0
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V-Triggered - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:28:58 EST ID:s6SB4lr1 No.6021535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
WWE stallions better not ever complain about some bullshit Japan bias ever again.
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Repo Man - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:29:39 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6021536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
>NXT delivers TWO five-star matches

Per usual, NXT is the better WWE show of the WrestleMania weekend. Vince BTFO.
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The People - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:30:35 EST ID:T3pNx6NP No.6021539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>Two five star matches on one show
When was the last time this actually happened?

Also, did he give a rating for PCO/Walter or no?
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Peter Maivia - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:31:25 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6021540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530

CODY MADE IT TO 4 STARS! BRAVO!
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Mike Chioda - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:31:29 EST ID:MYzf/VkS No.6021541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Undertaker pinned John Cena in 2:46. *1/4
Taker claimed another soul. Was *****
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Nigel McGuinness - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:32:01 EST ID:qUivCnkT No.6021542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
JOHNNY FIVESTARS
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The Mantaur - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:32:26 EST ID:WAFpeFe0 No.6021543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
Based 4 Star Cody
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Angel de Oro - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:34:11 EST ID:fA3uRMLg No.6021547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021539
I think AJW - Tag League The Best 1993 (12/10/1993). I may be wrong, though.
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Chase Owens - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:34:53 EST ID:n0MsySuJ No.6021548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021519
>Whether this happens or not remains to be seen but there is a pitch for Wyatt to turn on Matt Hardy and then be the leader of the Sanity group
Just get rid of Wyatt at this point.
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Kimberly Page - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:35:20 EST ID:Au31AR1Z No.6021549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
Cody does it again
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Lance Bravado - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:37:42 EST ID:GL2EqowE No.6021551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>internet was unable to stream NXT but was perfectly fine streaming wrestlemania.
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Soldier Ant - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:39:06 EST ID:U+A/TOl1 No.6021552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021526
Everybody here does but sponsors wouldn't know anything about it. Even then WWE could just claim >dirtsheets and say that Lesnar went into business for himself
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Leva Bates - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:39:37 EST ID:S4ei3Z5e No.6021553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>TWO five star matches on one show

Jesus, is this legitimately the single greatest show in history?
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Jey Uso - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:42:03 EST ID:YTMNWEcR No.6021557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021515
The F5-through-the-table spot
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Mike Chioda - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:43:11 EST ID:MYzf/VkS No.6021559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Johnny Gargano pinned Tommaso Ciampa in 36:58 of an unsanctioned match to get his job back in NXT ***** FIVE STAR MATCH

I hate to be that guy but anytime you see a suicide dive its an immediate -1
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Chiva IV - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:43:22 EST ID:odXQPvvk No.6021560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
Can't really argue with any of these. Cody/Omega I'd only give **** at most but he probably watched BTE 100 so it makes sense.
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Lance Bravado - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:43:43 EST ID:GL2EqowE No.6021562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>Killian Dain, Lars Sullivan and Velveteen Dream all have five star matches now.

It just feels so weird.
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Jeremy Borash - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:45:04 EST ID:OcRupx9N No.6021563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021547
I think It was Dreamslam 1
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Chiva IV - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:46:39 EST ID:odXQPvvk No.6021565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021559
They actually make sense in blood feuds. Common sense is overridden by hatred.
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WrestlingTheSport - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:48:48 EST ID:u+Yd2N4u No.6021568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021562

To be honest I'm okay with every single match that Velveteen Dream has being given five stars.
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TAKA Michinoku - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:48:58 EST ID:7jzLU45d No.6021569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
>Lars Sullivan has a five star match now
I like Lars but I have no idea how to feel about this.
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Crossbones - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:49:50 EST ID:QfGXrQto No.6021572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
>two 5 star matches that were 4-4.5 at best
>kenny/cody 4.25 stars
>rondas debut was 4.25 stars

i knew meltz was going senile but damn i disnt know hia brain deteriated this rapidly
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Cliff Compton - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:50:09 EST ID:a5MY1ot+ No.6021573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Lars officially received 5 snowflakes
I thought the ladder match was ***1/2 at best but this actually makes me happy in a way.
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Howard Finkel - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:02:41 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6021585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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based NXT raking in those snowflakes
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WrestlingTheSport - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:05:43 EST ID:u+Yd2N4u No.6021589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021569

I think we should give him more star ratings because otherwise he might get angry and come after us.

Christ that man is terrifying
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Andy Leavine - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:06:48 EST ID:2F2Uz45M No.6021590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
>tfw Cody 3 Star General and Kenny 5 Star General average to around a 4 star
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Batista - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:10:32 EST ID:YurutqRV No.6021594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>HBK starts producing matches
>All of a sudden 5-star galore
Guessing he's Dave's favorite source
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Tara - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:11:17 EST ID:Aj2H5syt No.6021595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Johnny Gargano is now only the third person to have multiple five star matches in the WWE. The other two are Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels
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Titus O'Neil - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:11:45 EST ID:hv2CWk0N No.6021596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>two 5 stars matches

what the hell dude, when was the last time this happened? Dave must've been really fucking happy during this mania season
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Lauren Brooke - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:12:57 EST ID:xlvu9kPw No.6021598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021594
I'v got news for you, Dave
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WrestlingTheSport - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:16:52 EST ID:u+Yd2N4u No.6021601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021595

Can we take a minute to talk about how absolutely incredible Gargano has become? I honestly remember him being kinda bland on the indies, not bad but just sorta there. Then you put him in NXT and he has turned into one of the best pure babyfaces and best wrestlers in the company.
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Murphy - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:21:28 EST ID:1yByBrpq No.6021604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>Lars Sullivan has more five star matches than Daniel Bryan
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Shad Gaspard - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:26:05 EST ID:Q3KJg5uV No.6021609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021519
>a large drunk fan
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DrHouse !DOGLetgMcA - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:33:14 EST ID:CeX/QwQ/ No.6021615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021572
>Call Metlz senile
>Disagree with him over fractions of stars

You're a fraction of senile.
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Maryse - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:59:43 EST ID:vJtkNI1L No.6021631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021553
I don't know, I mean, it's a five match card.
Honestly, I think the greatest wrestling show would be one that has a high amount of consistency through the most matches.

Compare it to WK12, that had a lot more matches.
The only things rated under ***3/4 are the preshow rumble(preshow), and the gauntlet match... and that's split between 3 matches for Meltzer instead of being one single rating. If he combined everything, I'm sure it would've been at least 3 stars, especially considering 11's was ***1/4 and was worse IMHO.
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Conor O'Brian - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 03:06:45 EST ID:AlfVuufq No.6021638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021604
that vanilla midget goat man shoulda stayed retired and let some young talent have their shot
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Evan Karagias - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 03:11:25 EST ID:vSvAZDc8 No.6021641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
Actually pretty surprised at the ladder match getting five. It was great, but that great?

The IC Title match deserves more. And I hear Cody/Kenny was no more than ***3/4 but I haven't seen it yet.
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Chris Harris - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 03:58:23 EST ID:95ncjrsR No.6021658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021528
>>6021548
That is probably a better idea than any of you realize.
If they include All of Sanity, including Eric Young, since he isn’t the best talker, AND Thikki Cross as Sister Abigail then its a lock, could be just what Bray needs, and is a good stable to be carried by Wyatt.
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Nevaeh - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 04:21:22 EST ID:GT4rj29Y No.6021665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>ronda rousey and stephanie mcmahon have a higher average star rating at WM than all 4 of wwe's horsewomen AND asuka
>velveteen dream has more 5 star matches in WWE than aj styles, daniel bryan, shinsuke nakamura, kevin owens, sami zayn, seth rollins, finn balor, bobby roode and drew mcintyre COMBINED

a former mma fighter on a losing streak, a 41 year old mother of 3 (both of whom just had their DEBUT WM match) and a fey bisexual have just COMPLETELY BTFO of SO many people on /wooo/ right now.

who /slay queen/ here
who /shrek/ here
who /v e l v e t e e n/ here
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The Patriot - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 04:21:58 EST ID:h0xybatW No.6021666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That punk bitch Kenny Omega blown out
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Justin King - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 04:24:06 EST ID:Ni8tD7Sl No.6021667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021665
>and a fey bisexual
When you said that, I honestly thought you were talking about HHH
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Jinder Mahal - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 04:58:32 EST ID:fe/sIKhy No.6021683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>doubting Paul
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Don West - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:03:01 EST ID:yeAURR0p No.6021684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Beware, Stars Sullivan
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Jinder Mahal - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:08:53 EST ID:fe/sIKhy No.6021688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021658
Nikki does not deserve such a stupid role.
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Titus O'Neil - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:18:06 EST ID:hv2CWk0N No.6021689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021684
>in 2 years Lars Sullivan achieved a 5 stars match

GOAT
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Bison Smith - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:31:32 EST ID:R7eNPqpC No.6021697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021665
>have just COMPLETELY BTFO of SO many people on /wooo/ right now.

lol, people taking meltzer's ratings as gospel are sad.
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Justin King - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:31:38 EST ID:2Youmaxo No.6021698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
I liked the Takeover ladder match, too, but is it really worth *****? Good spotfest, wasn't any different from your usual WWE style ladder clusterfucks. Probably give it **** at most.
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Peter Maivia - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:34:44 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6021699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pastebin has tons of other shit besides wwe btw.

>Janela's Spring Break was a heavy comedy show which started at midnight and was meant to be the wackiest show of the year. Among the highlights were Riddle beating James Ellsworth and a main event of Janela beating Great Sasuke. The highlight, a match that was said to be **** to ****½ from various sources, was PCO (Pierre Carl Ouelett of the Quebecers team) against Walter. At first people weren't that into it but very quickly after a chop battle they were going crazy when PCO stood toe-to-toe with him. There was a ref bump, a power bomb through the table, a PCO somersault senton to the floor and PCO won in the end. They went about 20:00. PCO did a moonsault off the top rope to the outside and actually neither Walter nor the ref were able to catch him and he landed face first on the floor. He also did a tope, split legged moonsault and cannonball. The crowd gave both a standing ovation and chanted "PCO." PCO, who is now 50, said that his goal was to get a match in PWG, and in particular this year's BOLA if possible. PCO and Walter had done a match ten years ago in Germany when Walter was only 20.
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Madusa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:38:35 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.6021700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021699
>PCO, who is now 50, said that his goal was to get a match in PWG, and in particular this year's BOLA if possible.
this fucking timeline
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Jack Swagger - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:43:15 EST ID:N5OJXAeK No.6021702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>WWE getting scared over ITV again.

So basically, if WWE is doing stuff with the Brits, ITV is planning stuff again, if nothing is going on with the Brits, then there's no plans with ITV?

I swear that UK belt only appears whenever ITV is in talks again.
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Bison Smith - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:22:51 EST ID:R7eNPqpC No.6021712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> A.J. Styles pinned Shinsuke Nakamura in 20:10 to retain the WWE title. ***3/4
> Adam Cole won a six-way ladder match to become the first holder of the new version of the North American title over Ricochet, EC 3, Killian Dain, Lars Sullivan and Velveteen Dream in 31:16 *****

the state of these opinions
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Peter Maivia - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:30:40 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6021722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021712
bad post.
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Nevaeh - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:34:13 EST ID:GT4rj29Y No.6021725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021697
t. bingo hall fanboy admitting to getting BTFO
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Chiva IV - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:56:05 EST ID:odXQPvvk No.6021740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021702
The entire purpose of the UK belt is to make sure the UK scene doesn't take off. Even Jericho's noted that on one of his podcasts.

>>6021712
The entire last third of that match was missing. The new plan should be AJ and Nakamura have a rematch on the next Takeover.
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Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:08:31 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6021753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021514
>Talent under ITV contract has been told about plans for May, with the idea of taping ten one-hour television shows over a three-day span
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Dino Bravo - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:31:30 EST ID:QT8NkWAS No.6021764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021519
>WWE's plan for Killian Dain is to turn him into one of the Wyatt family.
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Lance Hoyt - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:40:42 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.6021767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021764
DAIN?!
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Bo Dupp - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:11:47 EST ID:NVwuRAPm No.6021788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021519

>205 Live this past week didn't even crack the top 20
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Karen Jarrett - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:16:20 EST ID:YGBDCLB8 No.6021792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021712
>says absolutely nothing about why they're supposedly bad
Engage in discourse or get the fuck out.
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Justin King - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:24:51 EST ID:Ni8tD7Sl No.6021793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Shane McMahon, who didn’t know anything, was furious at what he perceived as an attempt to intimidate his father, and did go after them, but they were already gone and there was no confrontation. The belief is that Lesnar didn’t even know Shane went after him until they got word much later, long after he was gone, from people who were there watching Shane take off.

Shane is trying too hard
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Trent Barreta - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:31:59 EST ID:N6m1wfyc No.6021796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021667
We he IS Bi-Alot of things.
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Ed Ferrara - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:40:31 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6021801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021793
no he's really really shoot gonna shoot on the really real realness

like seriously this is the WCWest pile of dumb shit that WWE has heaped in a long time
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Nathan Jones - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:44:15 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6021804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021788
That's pretty sad but what do they expect at this point. The match at Mania was entirely forgettable.
They get less and less time on RAW. Smackdown doesn't even promote them after except for a glancing graphic on the screen.
I swear, Vince is still pissed that people liked the CWC and tries to throw it in Triple H's face as much as he can.
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Chiva IV - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:46:05 EST ID:odXQPvvk No.6021805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021793
That's been true for 20 years
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anonymous - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:48:07 EST ID:wscdUcdU No.6021807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
BV&G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6xibrwE_IM&index=1
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Hydra - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:48:34 EST ID:iLUQWh/i No.6021808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tl;dr this mark is getting worked

How much faith can you have in your own boss if he goes around being all secret and sly about the finishes to matches just for a headline or a "moment". I mean honestly? A man agreed to get split open for what purpose? I mean Roman hate aside, it's gotta suck getting hit over the head for little to no payoff even with the majority of fans not giving a shit or not
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Hallowicked - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:55:34 EST ID:3rLWgMm6 No.6021811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021808
>little to no payoff

Either way, he's just a guy getting rich
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Sexy Star - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:06:58 EST ID:KZJ8JevE No.6021818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021808
On one hand, it sucks Roman is just being forced down the fans throats. On the other, he is making mad money and is probably having a good laugh with Vince every night when the crowd boos him.
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Crossbones - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:11:52 EST ID:QfGXrQto No.6021820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021615
i aint taking disrespect lil tripfag

go defend ur uncle daddy meltz somewhere else
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Buff Bagwell - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:19:35 EST ID:BqCYHO/M No.6021825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021820
cool off joe budden, nobody gives a shit about star ratings any more than their own personal enjoyment. you sound like the type of guy to slurp shit out a dog's asshole like a lyric from a wesley willis song
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DJ Hyde - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:30:42 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6021833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
Dave throws snowflakes out for anything nowadays. Those matches were good, but 5*?
If American Dragon was being judged by Dave's modern scale he'd have over a dozen 5* matches rather than zero.
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Luke Gallows - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:33:25 EST ID:5Lo1MFm8 No.6021835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021530
based Cody "four star general" Rhodes at it again
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Madusa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:40:32 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6021841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021835
>Cody's consistent 3* workrate mixed with Kenny's 5* expectations averaged out to a 4* match
>subtly appropriating an additional snowflake to Cody's typical match in an attempt to change the meme
No.
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Nathan Jones - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:46:33 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6021845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021833
I agree. The Ladder match was alright but blow away five stars? Nope.
Gargano/Ciampa didn't even come close to Gargano/Cien.
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Gavin Loudspeaker - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:46:55 EST ID:JRSXGSGa No.6021847 Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
>>Adam Cole won a six-way ladder match to become the first holder of the new version of the North American title over Ricochet, EC 3, Killian Dain, Lars Sullivan and Velveteen Dream in 31:16 ***** FIVE STAR MATCH
>>Johnny Gargano pinned Tommaso Ciampa in 36:58 of an unsanctioned match to get his job back in NXT ***** FIVE STAR MATCH

LATE 2014 NXTSURPASSED!
WHY AREN'T YOU WATCHING NXT /WOOO/KIES?
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Ciclope - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:53:40 EST ID:L2Duum1P No.6021850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Reminder that Meltz has different standards for different companies.

A WWE 5 Star isn't worth as much as a general Puro 5 Star, which isn't worth as much as an NJPW 5 Star.
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Johnny Rodz - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:55:37 EST ID:ZL6cKRWX No.6021852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kenny Omega blown the fuck out
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:57:15 EST ID:AumAAP4c No.6021856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021850

lol wwe gets some 5 star matches and the nip fanboys are losing their mind.
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Ladder - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:57:48 EST ID:34eNJhlU No.6021857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021553
WK12 overall had a much higher star density

>***** (Kenny/Jericho)
>****3/4 (Jr. fourway)
>Two ****1/2's (Okada/Naito, Goto/Suzuki)
>****1/4 (Cody/Ibushi)
>Two ****'s, (both tag matches)
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DJ Hyde - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:01:03 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6021858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021852
>6.25* match
>two 6* matches
>5.75* match
>two 5* matches this year
Personally, I'd give none of those 5* but if you're using Meltz's ratings then Kenny certainly isn't BTFO
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Wifebeater - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:27:08 EST ID:FHX8dsKM No.6021870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021553
Relative to the size of the card, I would say so, but in overall quality, probably not, though maybe it'd sneak into the lower end of the top 10
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Ricky Steamboat - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:31:21 EST ID:sGZwff1s No.6021876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
Sup Bullet Club
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Jaki Numazawa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:36:16 EST ID:gCzGf97t No.6021881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whats the deal with Rusev, he's removed WWE from all of his social media?
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Jun Akiyama - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:51:00 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.6021887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021881
It looks like hes just doing his usual crpytic stuff

https://web.archive.org/web/20180401122150/https:/twitter.com/RusevBUL

https://twitter.com/RusevBUL
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Madusa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:56:34 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6021894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021881
Pulling a Neville, but as a work.
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:02:55 EST ID:AumAAP4c No.6021898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021881
he did a worked shoot interview on TMZ that insulted the Undertaker so they pulled him from the match, so now he's mad.
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Rhett Titus - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:04:22 EST ID:KgrvAXxe No.6021901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/37939525/health-department-reaches-out-to-those-in-contact-with-tourist-with-measles

WWE hall of fame may have spread measles
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Lance Hoyt - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:29:41 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.6021925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021901
lmfao WWE fans confirmed for mange ridden subhumans
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Dale Torborg - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:32:54 EST ID:Gsl9E1sK No.6021929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021804

The entire format is just wrong. It's a containment show with now clear way up or down the card, so there's no reason to get invested in it, even if the matches are great each week.

On NXT, you hone your craft and hope you get called up one day and then work towards becoming a champion, or even world champion on day.

On Raw and SD, you fight for your position, for championships up and down the card, while WWE continues to grow.

In NJPW, you have people going from the Super Juniors to the Heavyweights, you fight for titles, while the company grows, etc.

205 Live has none of that. You're always stuck in the same loop with no real expansion like the other brands and the clear message from WWE that you're a second class citizen compared to the stars of Raw and SD.
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Little Fiji - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:43:24 EST ID:ZuDV6nfN No.6021932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021856
but he literally said it
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Chi Chi - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:58:50 EST ID:vm7C9SRq No.6021941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021850
Wahh Dave gave two 5 star matches on the same card that wasn't New Japan!
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Madusa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:02:15 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6021944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Peter Maivia - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:05:32 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6021948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021944

in b4 Rusev gets booked in some underdog story even though he's fucking massive.
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Onyx - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:13:34 EST ID:UgaKnycP No.6021956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
Vince btfo
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Daniel Bryan - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:14:32 EST ID:yvFfnOhI No.6021958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021941
reminder that people don't get mad about what Meltzer thinks, but having to be subjected to people who treat his opinion as gospel
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:40:47 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6021983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Dalton Castle pinned Marty Scurll to retain the ROH title in 31:39 **3/4
Even Cody could deliver a better match than this
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Rosie Lottalove - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:10:30 EST ID:roUz1bW8 No.6022018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021983
I didn't see this match, is meltzer accurate here or what, cause a 30 minute match that is only **3/4 seems terrible.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:13:22 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6022021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022018
It is terrible, I wouldn't have minded him going to the 1 star range, and 2.75 is the most I could possibly give that match
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Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:15:22 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6022025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022018
nah it was preddy gud, dunno what Dave's smoking
It was based around Marty using every dirty trick in the book instead of around athleticism & fighting spirit so I guess it just wasn't his taste?
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Johnny Rodz - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:20:44 EST ID:ZL6cKRWX No.6022028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022018
It was a terrible match with a fucking complete and utter lack of heat.
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Brian Adams - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:32:48 EST ID:QiwyxdmP No.6022039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022018
>roh had a terrible main event.

wow colored me surprised.
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KENTA - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:33:33 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6022041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Impact vs. LU

>Impact and Lucha Underground worked together to run a joint show on Impact's Twitch channel on 4/7 at the Sugar Mill in New Orleans.

>The show was most notable for Alberto El Patron no-showing. Alberto was in New Orleans, and I even saw him at WaleMania the night before. He was at the Impact press conference to promote his 4/22 Redemption PPV match with Impact champion Austin Aries that day, where they shot a physical angle, and one person noted to us he wasn't acting normal. He then missed the show, where he was scheduled for a main event tag team match that was to set up the two big singles matches for the PPV, which were his match, and a Pentagon Jr. vs. Fenix match (using those names since Impact and Lucha Underground work together).

>After he no-showed that card, as well as an autograph session the next day, Impact announced they were releasing him. His contract was to expire the day before the PPV and even though they had talked, they had not signed a new deal. Alberto had claimed he missed the show because he was sick, but if the company believed him, I can't imagine they'd let him go and screw up all the promotion of their main event. They had already shot several angles for the match and have angles already shot in the can so it would be easier to just finish him up at the PPV. Evidently, they felt strongly enough about it that they released him.

>The new PPV main event will be a three-way with Aries defending against Pentagon Jr; and Fenix and they will explain on the 4/12 TV show the changes and the departure of Alberto.

>The other big of news from the show was that in the opener, a six-way match, Chavo Guerrero Jr. apparently suffered a torn triceps.

>They used Josh Matthews, Impact's lead announcer, with Matt Striker, Lucha Underground's lead announcer. The show drew 1,400 fans, a near sellout, and they were hot. At first the crowd was anti-Impact, as early mentions of Impact were booed and mentions of Lucha Underground were cheered. It's one thing for Matthews to be booed, since he plays a heel character even though he's the lead announcer (largely because efforts to bring back Mike Tenay didn't work out and Jeremy Borash left to work for NXT). But they also booed McKenzie Mitchell, Impact's backstage interviewer, since she was from there.

>1. Matanza Cueto (Jeff Cobb) won a six-way over Chavo Guerrero Jr., Jack Evans, Caleb Konley, Moose and Matt Sydal. The match was filled with cool moves with Evans and Sydal standing out. Matanza pinned Konley with the tour of the Islands.

>Guerrero after the match was to do an interview, but nobody could find a mic. When they finally did, he announced season four of Lucha Underground would be debuting on 6/13.

>2. Allie retained the Knockouts title over Taya Valkyrie. This was supposed to be Impact vs. Lucha Underground so Taya was from Lucha Underground, even though she's also a regular on Impact. Allie won with a backstabber and codebreaker. Fans booed as they were more a Lucha Underground crowd.

>3. Teddy Hart & Scott Steiner, who aren't from Lucha Underground or Impact, beat Impact's Dave & Jake Crist. Steiner beat Jake with the Steiner recliner. This came across like a TV squash match which is weird since the Crist Brothers are TNA regulars, but Steiner was more star power to the public and now nostalgia also kicks in since he's rarely around. Hart worked most of the way and made the hot tag to Steiner, who threw everyone around. The fans exploded for Steiner's hot tag. Announcer Matt Striker teased the idea that Dave Crist and Hart were shooting on each other. Shouldn't every announcer call every match like they are shooting on each other?

>4. King Cuerno & Drago & Aerostar (LU) beat Dezmond Xavier & Andrew Everett & DJZ (Impact) in a hell of a match, the show stealer. Everett and DJZ haven't even been around Impact in a while. Cuerno made Everett submit to the Indian deathlock. They all shook hands and raised each others' hands after the match. Cuerno was bleeding from the chest, probably from hard chops, and put on a shirt at the end of the match. Lots of great dives and innovative moves.

>5. Trevor Lee (Impact) pinned Marty "The Moth" Martinez (LU) with a roll-up. holding the tights after distraction from Caleb Konley. It was advertised as Lee vs. Famous B. B cut a promo and said he wasn't going to be wrestling and announced Martinez taking his place. Once when Konley tried to interfere, B superkicked him.

>6. Ortiz & Santana retained the Impact tag titles over LU's Killshot (Shane Strickland) & The Mack. Diamante returned in the corner of LAX after knee surgery. Konnan wasn't there due to recovering from hip replacement surgery. Another really good long match. Santana pinned Killshot after a double team power bomb and blockbuster. There was a missed spot when Ortiz slipped and fell when Killshot was setting up a Death Valley bomb, and he hit it on the second attempt. The big spot was Killshot throwing Ortiz off his shoulders right into a pounce by Mack.

>7. Brian Cage pinned Eli Drake. Drake cut a promo and ripped on the mostly pro-LU fans saying Impact is on TV every week and LU does one season a year and took almost two years off from taping. Cage was said to be representing LU even though getting a big Impact push. Drake said he didn't want to wrestle Cage and instead invited him out drinking. But then Drake attacked him. Cage won with a combination discus clothesline and diamond cutter inside out. They worked a competitive match with Drake getting a lot of offense.

>8. Jeremiah Crane beat Eddie Edwards in an I Quit match. Crane is Sami Callihan but he was representing LU so used his name there, even though this is from the baseball bat angle and he's far better known as Callihan. They brawled all over the place. They didn't get into the ring for about te minutes. Edwards, who just returned about a week or two ago (I think this was his second match back) after the baseball bat angle that went awry, took a Death Valley bomb on a chair. Edwards got Crane mad by calling him Solomon Crowe (his NXT name). Edwards power bombed him on a guard rail. The crowd was not making a lot of noise in this match. The Crist Brothers interfered. Crane delivered a hard chair to the head. Crane went to hit Edwards again with a baseball bat. The ref tried to stop im and Don Callis ran down and threw in the towel to end them match. Crane was about to go after Callis but Moose stepped up for the save.

>9. Pentagon Jr. won a non-title three-way over Austin Aries and Fenix. At the time the announcers didn't know what to say about Alberto not being there and said that they had no idea why it wasn't a tag match but that they were told the match was changing during the show. Good match. Aries used a 450 on Pentagon and last chancery on both guys but the other would break it up. Finally Aries got superkicked by both and Pentagon pinned Fenix with a Penta driver.
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KENTA - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:41:31 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6022051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021530
Those matches were not 5-star caliber matches. Gargano/Ciampa didn't come close to Gargano/Almas, and that ladder match, while great, was it really 5-star worthy?

I also thought Cody/Omega was going to get only a 3* because it was super slow.

On a side note, the state of ROH and WWE. Look at all those less than 3* matches. Skipping it live and watching only the good matches truly is the greatest way to watch wrestling nowadays.
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anonymous - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:55:06 EST ID:wscdUcdU No.6022076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022051
Agree with all this except didn't watch ROH
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Peter Maivia - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:01:54 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6022081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022041

in b4 that guy who reeee'd when someone posted chunks of pastebin before. That guy sucked.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:16:50 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6022083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022025
>preddy gud
Low standards there, champ
It was pretty boring for the most part, like they HAD to fill X amount of time, and just figured "well, let's work slowly"

The crowd was mostly bored, to the point where they booed a kickout late in the match. Even when the pace picked up towards the end, it wasn't very exciting, just felt like "FINALLY, this is picking up....aaand Castle wins? Just like that?"
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Kenny - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:34:14 EST ID:uBCZ6icr No.6022087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021562
>Killian Dain, Lars Sullivan and Velveteen Dream all have a five star match
>Daniel Bryan Danielson doesn't
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Angel de Oro - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:38:29 EST ID:fA3uRMLg No.6022089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022039
"Dalton Castle vs. Jay Lethal is the best ROH match since Steen/Generico Ladder War."
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Erik Watts - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:00:39 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6022109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022083
I'd consider it sensible standards.
Not everything should be an Omega/Ibushi LOOKY DAT MOOV exhibition, much as I used to think otherwise. They told a clear story and executed it well, hence why they "worked slowly". Of all the matches that bored me that weekend that wasn't one of them; I found myself invested in the kickouts, entertained by the chaos and surprised with the finish. What do you want from me, exactly?
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Gran Naniwa - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:05:23 EST ID:iqBUxnOH No.6022114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021519
>Whether this happens or not remains to be seen but there is a pitch for Wyatt to turn on Matt Hardy and then be the leader of the Sanity group

STOP TURNING HIM HEEL AND PUTTING HIM IN A STABLE REEEEEEEEEEEE. Did you not hear those pops since his face turn? God knows WWE are stupid enough though, they did it last time when he was feuding with the League of Nations.
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Brian Adams - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:10:54 EST ID:QiwyxdmP No.6022118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022114
>turning bray heel again and having him lead another stable.

How can one man have such awful booking
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Joker - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:30:39 EST ID:orlr6gke No.6022138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021929
I can't wait for Vince to die so Haitch can just fold the entirety of 205 into the main roster
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anonymous - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:54:58 EST ID:wscdUcdU No.6022159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022138
Less than a year into hhh's reign you will be complaining and hoping some other promoter takes over.
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KENTA - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:39:49 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6022192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6021533
>Rousey used a back suplex and a ton of punches, dropping Stephanie with a body shot, just like Coach Edmond taught her.

Goddamn it, Meltzer.
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HeartBreakHill !2ImwF6mc9M - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:09:10 EST ID:WSG8NIrG No.6022211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My fucking fw Lars Sullivan has a 5 Star match
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Repo Man - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:15:41 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6022215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6022211
That GIF looks like shit. Here, have a better (albeit sized-for-/wooo/) version.
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Terry Taylor - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:16:33 EST ID:O9DqxmWz No.6022218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> The referee, Chad Patton, was tipped off while inside the ring at the start of the match. He was told, but not exactly told. When they were all in the ring, Lesnar said to him something along the lines of, make sure to count three when the shoulders are down, which he never would have needed to say if Lesnar was getting pinned after a bunch of spears as everyone was told. It’s somewhat similar to the story of Lesnar’s win over Undertaker four years ago, where the ref’s instructions were to count the pin and that it was the job of the wrestlers to get their shoulders up. Michael Hayes, who laid out the match with Lesnar, Reigns and Heyman, reportedly was not told and they laid the match out with a finish set up with Reigns winning after several spears.

I heard Meltzer report this on the show and it honestly sounded vague and non-committal as fuck as though he couldn't decide how it had gone down. Why the hell would you not tell the ref that Lesnar is winning once the match has started? Who's he gonna leak it to? Why bother with cryptic instructions?
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:34:20 EST ID:szAGjBCt No.6022239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021519
dear god he's doing the Tessa Blanchard sales pitch again
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Leticia Kline - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 21:45:13 EST ID:iHDGsxOf No.6022468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021519

> WWE was scouting Shimmer on 4/7 for the tournament and future signings. Tessa Blanchard was said to be the standout. She was one of the best women in the Mae Young Classic, so they know about her and obviously there is a reason they didn't sign her after initially showing interest last year. Blanchard even cut a promo on an indie show a few months ago and talked about attitude issues that people were saying. She's still young and at this point she has the look and charisma and real star potential, not to mention the last name and second generation aspects that they like. The other women who stood out on the show like Mercedes Martinez were also in last year's tournament

Surprised it took this long, especially with BF Ricochette in NXT. She and Charlotte are a natural team.

So what's taking the E so long on Toni Storm?
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David Lagana - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:02:57 EST ID:rd922YnK No.6022477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022018
it wasn't that bad, but holy shit it was so slow
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Mia Yim - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:56:03 EST ID:NzPxwPs2 No.6022495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022468
I think the reason they have put off signing Tessa and Toni is that they are both very young and getting tons of experience in the indies. No reason to rush them to the WWE. I think Triple H still sees the benefit of letting people wrestle different styles all over the world before teaching them the "WWE" style.
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Leticia Kline - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:34:01 EST ID:iHDGsxOf No.6022510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022495
Makes sense. I just hope Tessa knocks it off with the stupid intergender matches like the one with Cage.
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Jim Johnston - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 01:10:45 EST ID:pIXR3WOO No.6022526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022218

WWE refs are told to count all pins like shoots. In extenuating circumstances they get reassured in the ring to do it so they don't flinch or botch a pin because they were expecting a kick-out.
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El Alebrije - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 03:34:46 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6022562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>WOL

https://my.mixtape.moe/biqctp.mp3
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Jesse The Body Ventura - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:06:21 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.6022681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>WrestlingDVDNetwork.com revealed the WrestleMania 34 DVD will not include the WWE Hall of Fame this year due to time restraints. This year's Hall of Fame went nearly four and a half hours long. Instead, the DVD will have the Raw after WrestleMania on it. The Hall of Fame has been included on every WrestleMania DVD since 2005. It should also be noted all three WrestleMania Kickoff matches will be on the DVD, last year they were not.
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Ed Ferrara - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:16:23 EST ID:hwWgFZ24 No.6022684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022681
thanks a lot Hillbilly Jim
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Jazz - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:32:09 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6022702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022681
>It should also be noted all three WrestleMania Kickoff matches will be on the DVD, last year they were not.
Yes, genuinely. Thank you based Jim.
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Luke Gallows - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:56:27 EST ID:khbv1kVi No.6022717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022681
Hillbilly Jim making sure the boys get those home release royalties. Thanks, good brother.
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Jay Briscoe - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:05:30 EST ID:7FjvZqO7 No.6022724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022681
>fuck you neville
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Christy Hemme - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:47:18 EST ID:xU2HBdj6 No.6022730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022681

Boy I'm sure this will really do WWE any favors if they're legitimately trying to get Neville back.
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Mark Henry - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:22:48 EST ID:4h+PXYpW No.6022745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021898
He didn't insult him, Michelle.
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Trish Stratus - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:51:55 EST ID:Wphzkwq4 No.6022754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022681
>2018
>still buying dvds
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Ricky Reyes - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:53:50 EST ID:4fbjhvX1 No.6022757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022681
>there's people out there who watched the full 4 and half hours of the hall of fame
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Jazz - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:04:20 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6022767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6022757
>there are "people" out there who couldn't handle Dalilama Jim's worldly wisdom
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Athena - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:36:37 EST ID:LFJ8Woos No.6022780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022218
They didn't tell the ref because he didn't need to know.

If you want to keep something a secret you have to have the minimum amount of people know about it. As more people know about it the chances of it getting leaked increase exponentially. If two people know something they probably won't leak it because they know it isn't gonna be hard to figure out who the leaker is. If ten people know then they all know they have some cover if it gets out. In an environment like WWE only telling people things on a need to know basis is the only way to do it

This is my problem with most conspiracy theories. If it requires more than like five people to know about it to execute the conspiracy than it's extremely unlikely to stay a secret.
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Truth Martini - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:39:07 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6022834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022780
I'm not sure I get this whole "they didn't tell the ref" thing. It's really difficult to keep a normal count cadence on the third stroke if you don't know what is happening. You see this sometimes when in the match the referee will actually stop counting if the wrestler kicks out a little bit late.

Normally the ref will have decided to hit the mat or not before they start bringing the hand down.

If someone goes back and watches that match, they would be able to see the ref cleanly hitting that count and automatically standing up to confirm it.
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CRAPCOM !SNGay1lkXQ - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:10:17 EST ID:oBoI/UZ6 No.6022858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022834
They regularly drill into the referees' heads to call it like a shoot.
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Athena - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:07:16 EST ID:LFJ8Woos No.6022934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022834
They also did tell him to make sure to count the pin if it comes. He basically had to know at that point that Brock was winning. So they told him without telling him and waited till he was out there to do it. That way if the finish gets out they can be sure it wasn't the ref that leaked.
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Sabu - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:10:54 EST ID:dVdZe8k4 No.6022939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6022780
if they told the ref as he was going to the ring, do you think he is gonna pull out his phone and text meltzer as he's jogging down the entrance ramp?
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Billy Gunn - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:15:30 EST ID:GL2EqowE No.6022944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022834
They usually tell the refs as a rule for all matches to count to three and it is the wrestler's job to get the shoulder up.
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Truth Martini - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:39:39 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6022964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022944
try it yourself, do a referee pin count and try to figure out when exactly you would be able to react in time to stop it.

Watch the ref count brock's pin, it's smooth and without hesitation. He knew that was the finish. Why would WWE risk having a confusing pin?
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Tank - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 17:35:55 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6023008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Seems nobody picked this up yet, but Percy Watson got added to the announce tables of Main Event and 205 Live this week.

Not even these shows can avoid the forced three man / gotta have a third wheel black guy tables it seems.
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D'Lo Brown - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:00:00 EST ID:7jzLU45d No.6023015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022944
Remember that ECW ref that got fired for that? Shit must've sucked.
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Cheerleader Melissa - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:41:42 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6023044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.pwmania.com/there-may-have-been-locker-room-fight-at-roh-steel-city-excellence

>Ring of Honor will hold their Steel City Excellence event tonight in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at the Stage AE.

>Based on several wrestlers who sent out tweets, it looks like there was a locker room fight. As of this writing, there’s no word yet on who was involved or how it started.
(tweets in the link)
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Cheerleader Melissa - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:47:00 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6023047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023044
Fuck, Kaz and Scorpio Sky deleted their tweets
Did anyone catch what they said?
will >rovert come through here?
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Lin Bairon - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:51:04 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6023050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023044
what a story, mark
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Truth Martini - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:00:56 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6023066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023047
Apparantly Cody and the bucks were boasting about their Meltzer star ratings or something and it was rubbing up people the wrong way
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Marco Corleone - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:07:16 EST ID:W6UQlj76 No.6023072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023066
Don't lie, you got that from TEW.
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D'Lo Brown - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:49:14 EST ID:7jzLU45d No.6023133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023066
That sounds like bullshit, but people will believe it.
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Cherry - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:16:56 EST ID:XgcBkFSC No.6023156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023066
Dont believe it but
Don't know what would be sadder: Boasting about what a guy rated your match like you just got told you're getting the World title like a dork or being upset by dorks boasting about what star ratings their match got
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Raisha Saeed - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:25:21 EST ID:szAGjBCt No.6023201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023047
https://twitter.com/AreWrestling/status/985251670379687938?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

All the comments were pretty vague
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Darren Young - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:46:03 EST ID:AFKW7jCx No.6023205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Realistically a blade job is actually less barbaric, even if to the public it isn’t

This sounds like a made-up thing. Who could be dumb enough to think that getting busted open legitimately is less barbaric than a blade job? What people generally don't like about blade jobs (the bloodthirsty among us excepted) is that blade jobs don't have to exist at all; you can just have a fake fight with no blood at all. But if there's going to be blood, on purpose, then obviously a blade job is the better way to go about it.
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Balls Mahoney - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:48:52 EST ID:La6O2wzs No.6023207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023205
It's about lying to the toy companies

The new marks are a the sponsors, the shareholders, and guys in the ring
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Soldier Ant - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:50:03 EST ID:7jzLU45d No.6023208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023205
A guy getting busted open hardway isn't gross and disturbing to casuals since it happens during boxing, UFC, etc. Once you get into a guy cutting himself on purpose, people think that's weird and messed up.
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Ricky Reyes - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:54:59 EST ID:4XJAKv84 No.6023210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023205
I think you almost had the right statement. Here I fixed it for you.

>What people generally don't like about blade jobs (the bloodthirsty among us excepted) is that blade jobs don't have to exist at all; you can just have a fake fight with ***fake blood.***
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Blue Panther - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 23:12:47 EST ID:3csXNlDP No.6023255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6023210
No, you can't. Because you sell to the toy companies that there's NO BLOOD. Like on a TV show, that obviously uses prop blood, in order to hit certain TV ratings they can't show it at all.

"But if it happens....'accidentally'..."

What I don't get is why they don't use prop weapons. Break-away chairs instead of actual steel chairs...foam sledge hammer, etc etc. You could add the sound effects in the truck for TV. I mean, it's not like they don't add terrible effects during a live show anyway....
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Amish Roadkill - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 23:34:52 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6023275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023255
>What I don't get is why they don't use prop weapons. Break-away chairs instead of actual steel chairs...foam sledge hammer, etc etc. You could add the sound effects in the truck for TV.

Yeah, that's what we need: WWE to become even more of a Saturday Morning Cartoon.
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John Cena - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 23:47:38 EST ID:uXbGQaAl No.6023280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>turning Bray once again and buttplugging him with another stable
jesus. being a Wyatt fan is suffering. I still remember that great tag match he had with Roman. Him pointing and Reigns doing the spear was fantastic...iirc that was right before Bray was injured

Just give me a tweener/face Bray for 6 months, let's just see where it goes, guys
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Apolo - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:08:26 EST ID:a5MY1ot+ No.6023284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6023280
Bray had all the potential in the world and they even had it perfect for 90% of the Orton angle, but whoops here's a 10-minute Mania deathslot with maggot projections taking up a third of it, eat shit.
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Soldier Ant - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:14:54 EST ID:7jzLU45d No.6023288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023275
They did a foam sledgehammer for Taker vs. Haitch at Mania X-Seven. The wood broke through the foam so they didn't do it again.
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Amish Roadkill - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:16:37 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6023289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023284
I know this is not a pic from that feud, but FUCK, this has me thinking about the fuckawesome Shield/Wyatt Family buildup-and-match around Elimination Chamber 2014 and FUCK do I miss those days.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5urfxl
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Daivari - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:23:49 EST ID:O9DqxmWz No.6023570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6022780
>If you want to keep something a secret you have to have the minimum amount of people know about it.

What the hell is the ref gonna do, shout it at the front row?!
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Chainz - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:27:32 EST ID:g7bHjddC No.6023571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023289

Bray had awesome feuds. The one with Cena springs to mind.

Bray is not the problem. The fact he hasn't won a feud is the problem.
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Bryce Remsburg - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:32:55 EST ID:iqBUxnOH No.6023574 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023280
>let's just see where it goes, guys
A face Bray Wyatt would go like this, if they gave him time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly_2DF7PILY
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Drew Carey - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:52:20 EST ID:WGzF8KQ1 No.6023594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023284
>tfw there exists a dimension where Bray went over Orton
>this same dimension then has Bray go on a reign of terror on SD Live, no one can stop him
>Rowan returns as well new members being recruited
>Harper rises up but fails to take down Bray after an awesome feud that makes both guys look good
>It all ends with Bryan returning to in-ring action to stop Bray at Wrestlemania
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Player Uno - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:56:04 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.6023596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dave confirmed kitamura's gone, damn

F
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Wataru Inoue - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:08:55 EST ID:LoeEtv29 No.6023600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6023571
>Cena feud
>Good
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Blackjack Mulligan - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 19:27:13 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6024125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e-OVT-x1cQ

based meltz putting over the promo with konnan and eli drake
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Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:34:20 EST ID:SLGn9Fgv No.6024298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024125
>"from what I heard the crowd at new orleans booed impact"

Who is feeding Dave this nonsense? LU definitely got louder cheers at the start of the show, but the way he's talking about it, is not representative of the show at all.
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El Generico - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:51:39 EST ID:BkUkraxM No.6024387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024298
He really fucking hates anything to do with either company. i'm surprised he bothered to report at all
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Chiva II - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:23:02 EST ID:IYrGGiwC No.6024503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024387
>literally says "yeah impact's a good show"
>yeah he really fucking hates anything to do with either company
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Mari Apache - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:30:22 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6024513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024298

They DID boo Impact at the beginning.
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Jacob Novak - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:06:01 EST ID:jepWCml9 No.6024579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone got a mp3 of wor
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MVP - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:07:56 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6024648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6024579
I got you, dude.

>WOR
https://my.mixtape.moe/gmynls.mp3
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Reckless Youth - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:22:27 EST ID:ECPVV2LS No.6024726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024648
Gratsi
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Antonio Inoki - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 01:15:05 EST ID:50s7N3fT No.6024777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone got WOL?
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Crowbar - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:23:35 EST ID:gIpieQ/l No.6024815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cokbkGqqVTc
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Antonio Inoki - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:34:42 EST ID:50s7N3fT No.6024820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024815
Thanks lad
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Reno - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:22:59 EST ID:Wda8Rrqt No.6024997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
B&V?
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anonymous - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:13:09 EST ID:xbEXCIGI No.6025012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024997
B&V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MICNU7zoYE
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Sexy Star - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:26:03 EST ID:3rLWgMm6 No.6025021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021658
>[x] should be Sister Abigail

I thought that we were past this by now.
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Rey Bucanero - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:56:51 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6025048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025021
With the magic Hardy lake in play there's a possibility of her coming back from the dead
Like maybe she possesses King Maxell via the lamp
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Larry Sweeney - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:13:59 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6025065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025048
God, why do you want her to be an actual character? Can't you just let some things be a mystery and not ruin them by turning them into an actual goddamn THING that will only ever disappoint you?
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Rey Bucanero - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:31:18 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6025082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025065
I'm not saying it _should_ be a thing, just that there is reason for it to come up again as a concept.
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Larry Sweeney - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:35:11 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6025084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025082
So why does it need to be anything but a concept?
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Eugene - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:49:31 EST ID:2TNaBUyb No.6025097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6024125
>>6024648
>Kitamura's gone
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Mari Apache - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:50:41 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6025100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey does anyone know where I could get the first ever WOR? Im trying to find the first radio show Dave Meltzer has done. He did the first one alone I think.
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Hiroshi Tanahashi - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:52:39 EST ID:J4CPJKaG No.6025103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025100
This would be interesting to hear.
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Reno - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:24:01 EST ID:Wda8Rrqt No.6025121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6025012
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MEN's Teioh - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:36:54 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6025127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6024298
It's true, though
and TNA absolutely still has a negative connotation, especially now that WWE made the joke to fuel that fire
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Owen Hart - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:18:19 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.6025154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025100
wouldn't it be from the eYada days? i doubt anyone has that archived
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Chilly Willy - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:25:37 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6025160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025154
I think the oldest show I've seen floating around is from early 2001.
But yeah, I would doubt there's archives of a lot of them. It's just how it was then to not really keep track of everything for smaller broadcasters.
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Jesse Neal - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:26:20 EST ID:1Z9h8Qu3 No.6025161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025012

the opening gave me flashbacks to 2004 roh with trent acids theme playing
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Scott Norton - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:32:45 EST ID:JIcEIpim No.6025167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025160
There's absolutely clips from late '99 floating around - Meltzer interviewing Vince Russo, who had recently taken over WCW, being one of the best, resulting in Russo blowing up at a caller who dare insinuate that having a piñata on a pole match between luchadores where the finish involved a bottle of tequila was "racist". Prime stuff.
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El Oriental - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:36:05 EST ID:mfPOI8l2 No.6025170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025100

The first WOR came in June 2008 after WON merged with F4W. Earlier than that Dave had a radio show with Bryan from about 1999-2001 on a radio streaming webside called eyada.com. But since eyada went belly-up in 2001, a lot of those old shows were lost to the ether. I know there’s some old shows from some of the big milestones at the time (WM17, WCW Greed, WCW buyout etc) but the first is likely long gone. If someone can somehow dig it up, or just more of the eyada shows, I’d very much like to see them as well.
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Mari Apache - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:46:03 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6025175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025170

thanks. This is more what I am talking about. It would be awesome to hear more stuff from this time. I have listened to the Bret Hart and Russo interview from this period but that's it.
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Jimmy Jacobs - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:48:19 EST ID:iE3cAfxM No.6025179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025175
the only one i've seen is just a compilation of retarded callers that's occasionally wrestling-related

i think dave tweeted before that he basically has none of them saved when someone said they had saved some of them and asked if he wanted them
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El Oriental - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:24:47 EST ID:mfPOI8l2 No.6025200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025175
>>6025179

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pkAUC5IDM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQyUHTw8hH4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QNHfMyQWYFQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2207s&v=2VWLT5ev394

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQwuIxeZX94

Found a couple of them, they’re scattered across youtube, just search “Wrestling Observer eyada” and they’ll come up. Some pretty interesting stuff.
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Johnny Rodz - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:31:48 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6025281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dave is a fucking meme.
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Crossbones - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:36:36 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6025286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025281
I dunno how that guy had no idea that RAW and SmackDown get shown live in the UK, they've been doing live TV for well over a decade. Most views than the replays too.
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anonymous - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:55:43 EST ID:xbEXCIGI No.6025474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-J2iq6JnJY&index=263
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STIGMA - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 00:28:05 EST ID:UJvlHDaE No.6026040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone got the B&V&G show from 12/April? Couldn't find it anywhere
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MsChif - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 00:33:28 EST ID:FjoZ+rTC No.6026042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025281
How tf is Meltzer the meme in that screencap dude
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Matt Jackson - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 01:07:36 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6026067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026042

I was thinking the same thing... It's probably his post that Meltzer is roasting.
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Rain - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 01:24:37 EST ID:3csXNlDP No.6026081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6023275
>DURRRR I AM THA GAME I USE DA SLEDGEHAMMER
I know expecting WWE to use prop weapons properly is like asking them to do proper scripting/acting, but the point remains that it wouldn't look WORSE than what they already do.
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Marco Corleone - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 02:29:35 EST ID:7d/M5stR No.6026116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025170
I have 159 episodes starting with October 08 1999 (Benoit interview) and ending with the final eyada show on July 7 2001. Ive been collecting them for years. Not exactly sure of the very first episode.

>>6025100
Chico was more of a caller than a co-hodt for a while.
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Matt Jackson - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 03:46:29 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6026148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is a really awesome WOL after 2001 No Way Out. So it's before WCW was purchased. Bryan sounds like a baby and has a bunch of terrible opinions. Meltzer is quit witted.

There is one point where they talk about Triple H being one of the top three workers in the WWF behind Benoit and Kurt Angle.

Bryan talks about how scary Scott Steiner is when he is throwing cruiserweights around in WCW and then Dave mentions he should check out this guy Brock Lesnar in OVW. He then goes on about how badass Brock is. Pretty surreal.
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Matt Jackson - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 03:47:45 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6026149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026148

oops here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZtDm3rlHj0

They also talk about Daniel Bryan and John Cena. In 2001.
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Godiva - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 03:53:46 EST ID:HTrr37yR No.6026152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm going to bed Real Dad Senpai all I want for tomorrow is the WOR Raw show
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Matt Jackson - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 03:57:12 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6026154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here is an interview with Ric Flair in 1999 with Dave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKhKVLrjUkQ

Here is an interview with Christopher Daniels in 2000 with Dave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jXjUBCg2cQ
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Matt Jackson - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 04:36:14 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6026174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh baby I found the motherload. Here is all the WOLs from the early days. Including tons of interviews and reviews of ppvs in 2001

https://wxf.forumcommunity.net/?t=35418395
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C. Red - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:02:14 EST ID:GaC5XRgC No.6026192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please post WOR
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Steve The Turtle Weiner - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:06:15 EST ID:QMBZJg2E No.6026193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026192
Can't wait to hear what Dave says about Corey saying Bullet Club. I know he is saving it for the show because he hasn't tweeted about it.
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Drake Younger - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:53:03 EST ID:TP17Ggfe No.6026239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I enjoy hearing people like Bryan and Dave talking about wrestling, but their taste (specially Dave) doesn't really fit my preferences and it's gets tired listening to the constant New Japan praise without a single criticism, if you don't think Okada is the greatest in the world it becomes unbearable to listen. Do you guys listen to other podcasts? Or do you have any trick for me to not get so angry about listening to Okada being better than Flair?
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Alex Shelley - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:57:49 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.6026240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026239
>Or do you have any trick for me to not get so angry about listening to Okada being better than Flair?
Here's a trick; get over it.
It's all subjective, there's no "right" answer.
It truly does not matter.
If it bothers you that bad you have problems that run deeper than this.
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The Weedman - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:06:05 EST ID:dP3kX961 No.6026244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
p much this big dog
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anonymous - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:07:14 EST ID:D/yKRvIE No.6026245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026239
Timestamps for WOR on f4wonline and skip NJPW part.
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Don Harris - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:11:53 EST ID:OsQ51F5+ No.6026246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026239
A tip for listening to dave seltzer and cryin' alvarez.

the show is not news, nor is it wrestling review.
It is a show by two open mic level stand up comics who noone wanted on real radio(um..... uh..... y'know................. *shuffle ...... uh, .... yeah *cough, it could change, I, uh dont know..........) so they now do a comedy podcast about wrestling.

point is, I find it much easier to take every fucking thing they say as a joke. the amount of dead air that these two leave is fucked and would cost an actual radio station money.
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Scott Norton - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:11:58 EST ID:AIrOybIJ No.6026247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wor?
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Scott Norton - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:11:58 EST ID:AIrOybIJ No.6026248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wor?
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Evangelina - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:20:25 EST ID:T01+4m64 No.6026251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026239
I'm a big fan of the POST Wrestling Podcast Rewind-a-Raw and Rewind-a-Smackdown with John Pollock and Wai Ting. They're free podcasts and they are generally more fun than Bryan and Dave. They cover 205Live as well, and they have some other shows about NXT, plus retro reviews, etc. Fun guys.
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Evangelina - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:23:27 EST ID:T01+4m64 No.6026252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026251
They also cover NJPW, Impact, and MMA to a lesser extent.
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Bill DeMott - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:48:58 EST ID:j8/wdEOw No.6026258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
WOR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWV1GnwmasA&index=165&list=PLULV84cISEHneyKKX2RsaNxq0QXJrCYzj
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Alex Shelley - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:53:47 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.6026260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6026246
>being this perpetually bothered by anyone at all
lmao
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Rosie Lottalove - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:43:11 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6026282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026239
Dave doesn't think Okada is better than Flair, that's Bryan and even then it's only in-ring. NJPW gets plenty of criticism from belt spam, to matches that often go too far taking risks, to the completely dead heavyweight tag division (which they seem to be in the process of doing something about).
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Trevor Murdoch - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:48:47 EST ID:lH8uvJTZ No.6026288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Superstar Billy Graham posted the following on his Facebook, slamming Ronda Rousey for using Roddy Piper’s gimmick at WrestleMania 34…

>First off to the fan who wrote.. ” I find Ronda’s use of Piper’s gimmick nauseating ” You my brother are dead on my man !!! I find it a total insult and absolutely reveals that she does not have an original thought in her head. Damn, can’t she be an original at anything ? This shows you how shallow she is and by the way, I am a fan of females being in the main event. That is why I put up this photo of Amanda Nunes kicking her ass in 48 seconds. She looked pitiful, a TKO in 48 seconds on Dec. 30th, 2016 by Nunes, a real fighter and Rousey just a jobber.

>Speaking of jobbers, I read today a quote by Meltzer that shook me to the core, it goes as follows, ” There was a rumor going around by WWE officials prior to mania 34 that Rousey was going to make HHH tap out to her armbar finisher ( instead of Stephanie McMahon ) and it appears the company went in the latter direction specifically due to storyline continuity reasons; as Rousey attacked Stephanie’s arm the next night on Raw whereas HHH is not a regular on-screen character and has disappeared for now.

>“WHAT ??? Miss Lousy was going to make H tap out ??? This would have been received as well as a cement truck full of pig sh*t being dumped on the mania 34 fans. God folks, what is the WWE thinking ??? RR is not a god of some kind but a mere female x UFC failure that got her flat ass kicked twice on the way out. Now this is nauseating. I demand that you fans respond to this crap the WWE is trying to lay on you by even thinking about her making HHH tap out, god this makes me sick.

https://411mania.com/wrestling/superstar-billy-graham-slams-ronda-rousey-using-roddy-pipers-gimmick/
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Sami Callihan - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:57:12 EST ID:9cF/caVr No.6026292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026239
The Edge & Christian podcast is consistently entertaining and informative.
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Monster C - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:57:34 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6026293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026288
The fact that Billy's never gotten any sort of "old man shouts at cloud" parody shows just how irrelevant he is. I kinda feel bad for him.
The Backlund rant's still funny as fuck tho
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Jazz - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:57:47 EST ID:MuY5CtEG No.6026294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026288
worked
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Kid Kash - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:59:46 EST ID:2pmqHXv1 No.6026296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026288
what a mark
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Shane Storm - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:16:40 EST ID:Z2VTwdTu No.6026304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026258
I love it when you can hear Brian getting sick of Dave's shit
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Big John Studd - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:23:11 EST ID:sMWrQMgG No.6026306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026258
I gotta disagree with Meltz on this whole Bryan/Miz feud. He said he thinks it knocks Bryan down several pegs but The Miz was arguably the biggest heel on Raw, and also carried multiple segments a show, and was often ending Raws, I don't see the big gap between them. And also, this feud has been building for years and is a match I believe people really want to see. Those two have some of the best interactions in WWE as well and it's something to look forward to.

Also thanks for the link brudda
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Haku - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:44:28 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6026325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026258
Bryan said at the end that they will be doing WOR on Tuesday this week, so the people who keep on asking about a post-SmackDown show are getting their wish...for one week only.
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Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:00:02 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6026384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026288
reminder that Billy Graham has had "1 year left to live" for like 8 years now.
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Alex Shelley - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:06:52 EST ID:GQt2wMaC No.6026390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026384
Reminder that Billy Graham will say *literally anything* to latch on to whatever is going in the wrestling world in any given week just to get his name out there in the headlines. He is to be ignored and shunned. He's a sad old man begging for attention.
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Obariyon - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:11:41 EST ID:/derN+HE No.6026394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6021559
God, what a fucking nerd.
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Jeff Jarrett - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:39:58 EST ID:fbXyMEWJ No.6026412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026306

Sometimes Dave acts totally oblivious to the way WWE fans really feel
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dognut - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:25:34 EST ID:K/6Jl8EZ No.6026500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026258
ty good sir
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Leticia Kline - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:51:34 EST ID:llgKCyfW No.6026618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026239
imagine getting angry because someone likes a fake fighter more than another fake fighter

okada is 100x better than flair ever was in the ring by the way
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El Valiente - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:07:56 EST ID:p3mjmaET No.6026710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026258
The fuck is Dave smoking? Bryan/Miz is a goddamn money feud.
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Mil M‡scaras - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 01:14:37 EST ID:WGfuiAqq No.6027619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can we get the new BVC show for us mobile users?
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Carlito - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 01:23:14 EST ID:V9fdE1+I No.6027625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027619
https://my.mixtape.moe/ztfgee.mp3

i got you my son
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Tito Santana - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:05:35 EST ID:kZqtktEv No.6027651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://twitter.com/ifyouseekcasey/status/986405382624043008

squaredcirclesirens skelly says the rumor is that alexa is getting a cosmetic surgery and that's why she's not on any shows
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Zack Ryder - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:12:05 EST ID:fbXyMEWJ No.6027654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027625

Thank you

The word is pronounced ply-sto-seen btw
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Scott Armstrong - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:14:11 EST ID:U+A/TOl1 No.6027657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026710
Dave hates all American wrestlers that never worked PWG or ROH
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Who - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:21:26 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6027660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027625
Thanks, dude.
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Jeremy Borash - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:26:19 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6027666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026710

Dave and Bryan have been shitting on Miz for years and years and they REFUSE to admit he has gotten better. It's irritating. Has Miz ever shit on Dave or something? Like..I don't get it.
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Carlito - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:02:38 EST ID:YGZYyCX5 No.6027682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6026288
who the fuck is this fat, old, irrelevant, faggot mark?
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The Berzerker - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:04:27 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6027683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027666
Cornette's the same. But at least has the excuse of not watching.
They're all just getting worked tbh
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Scott Lost - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:35:36 EST ID:TnJ2Knpk No.6027697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027666
They say hes a great promo and when the bell starts everyone switches off because they don't see him as a credible top guy. Which is 100% true.
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Stacy Carter - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:40:08 EST ID:O9DqxmWz No.6027702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026258
It's amusing hearing Meltz trying to sound all smarky about Total Divas, he's very "I know it's fake" about it

Meanwhile Alverez seems to think they have "thousands of hours" of footage they never use - he must think they legit film all day or something? No scripted reality show would do that, imagine the cost of actually filming people all day in broadcast quality with perfect lighting and sound etc., requiring a full crew. They just set up the scenes they need and film them like any drama.
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Jeremy Borash - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 04:06:13 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6027714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027697

They literally said he wasn't a good promo for like three weeks recently. Going out of their way to say he is a great "talker" but not a great promo. He also had been getting much better in the ring. They put time aside to say that Jinder had a good match on RAW this Monday but will never admit that Miz has been having better matches and has been working better in the ring for the past 6 months

I am actually a fan of WOR and WOL and follow it often but I can't stand the ignorance towards The Miz.
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Johnny Curtis - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 04:42:34 EST ID:3rLWgMm6 No.6027730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027714
Miz is a good talker but not a good promo.

When's the last time a Miz segment ever sold you on a match? Or even stuck in your memory for more than a week?
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Charly Malice - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 04:56:22 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6027734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027714
The exception they always say was with Daniel Bryan but it could never lead to anything, until now.

And it's true. Miz can have massively entertaining segments where he speaks truths no one else dares to but you never actually want to see him wrestle because of it (again the exception being wanting to see Daniel Bryan kick the shit out of him).

You also seem to have forgotten how hard they put Miz over during his initial Smackdown run where he turned his whole career around. He lost something when he went to Raw, so it's even better he's going back to Smackdown.
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Jeremy Borash - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:18:06 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6027743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027730

his phone promo against corbin. his promo against daniel bryan a year ago. his promo on cena last year. his promo on seth and finn. his promos on roman. his promo this fucking week.
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Tanny Mouse - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:20:56 EST ID:sLus+dBI No.6027745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027714
I can only speak for myself, but if Miz is the main event, I stop watching. Dude is midcard for life. Nothing wrong with that, but the dude couldn’t sell me on a main event feud if he was facing Hogan, Stone Cold, Rock, Flair, Cena, Reigns and the ghosts of Guerrero, Andre the Giant and Dusty in a fucking free for all multi-man match. Improving means nothing if he’s still the same midcarder doing his midcard shtick. Even his whole Hollywood douchebag gimmick only works because it’s meant to be ironic and everyone knows he’s a minor leaguer, so he can’t even do Hollywood Rock stuff.

I completely agree that Miz is entertaining but can’t sell an angle or make me want to watch a match.
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Mia Yim - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 06:08:54 EST ID:TjWF5hbT No.6027764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027745
>Hogan, Stone Cold, Rock, Flair, Cena, Reigns and the ghosts of Guerrero, Andre the Giant and Dusty
To be fair, he wouldn't be the worst one of those thanks to a certain Reigner :p
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Johnny Curtis - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 06:31:16 EST ID:3rLWgMm6 No.6027773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027743
You can't just list a bunch of his recent feuds m8

>his promo on seth and finn

Nevitt?
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Jeremy Borash - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 06:49:58 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6027780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027773

but those recent feuds are the feuds which have memorial promos from them. I don't know what you want me to say. Miz is a good promo. I used to think he was shit and now I don't.
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El Mesias - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 07:38:26 EST ID:7ofY/vD5 No.6027798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027773
>Tell me some promos miz cut that sold you on a match
>EXCEPT THOSE ONES
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Stacy Keibler - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:04:49 EST ID:W4u0l+KH No.6027813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Kitamura forced to retire before even graduating from the dojo
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Johnny Curtis - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:06:29 EST ID:3rLWgMm6 No.6027817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027798
He didn't specify anything, that's my entire point
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Dr. Death Steve Williams - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:57:11 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6027839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Randy Orton's tattoo artist is suing WWE and 2K Games -- the company behind WWE 2K18 -- claiming they used her designs without permission.

>The woman behind the suit is Catherine Alexander -- a tattoo artist from Illinois -- who says she's been tattooing Orton going back to '03 ... and owns the copyrights to the designs. Problem is, according to Alexander, Orton is depicted in the video games to a tee -- tattoos included -- and she says that's copyright infringement. The artists claims she raised the issue with WWE in 2009 ... and was offered $450 for the rights to use the designs. She says she declined the offer.

>As for the tats in question ... Alexander says she gave Orton a tribal tattoo on his upper back ... as well as full sleeve with everything from a Bible verse to a dove, skulls and a rose ... among others. FYI -- this ain't the first time we've seen a suit like this ... LeBron James' tattoo artist sued 2K last year ... making a similar claim. It's unclear exactly how much money Alexander is after ... but the game's a massive success ... we're guessing it's a lot more than WWE allegedly offered her the first time.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/17/randy-orton-tattoo-artists-sues-wwe-2k-games-tattoos/
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Dick Murdoch - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:58:27 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6027840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027839
Eh.
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Ernest The Cat Miller - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:07:51 EST ID:UEI12Svb No.6027844 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027839
I hope she wastes her money tbh
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John Bradshaw Layfield - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:12:45 EST ID:pFWMBSF/ No.6027846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027839
This is a hilarious thing to sue over but I hope she wins.
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Ampersand - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:14:12 EST ID:4+gGxNzG No.6027847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027839

Seems like she'd lose more money than she'd have to gain wouldn't it? I get wanting to be compensated for one's work, but she can't possibly expect to get all that much.
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Big John Studd - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:18:24 EST ID:Wda8Rrqt No.6027849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Special Tuesday WOR?
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Charly Malice - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:45:34 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6027863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027839
>PAYING someone to draw on you means you no longer own your own body

YEAH OK
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Naomi - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:53:46 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6027867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027839
Jesus, TMZ needs an editor.
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Abraham Washington - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:34:51 EST ID:YGBDCLB8 No.6027906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6027651
She's finally going to fix those cheap tits? I mean they're never going to look good on her because she's naturally flat as a board but you can do better than that.
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Brandon Thomaselli - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:49:27 EST ID:icX9s6i7 No.6027927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://youtu.be/svJGFIjunzg
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ODB - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:51:18 EST ID:qpOTHreL No.6027929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027927
you’re a hero. thanks duder
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Cheyenne Cher - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:54:26 EST ID:T01+4m64 No.6027931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027906
The only reason they look bad in these old pics is because they were new, and because of her insane bodybuilding frame. Big pecs under fake tits will never, ever look good. And fake tits (unless they're crazy oversized) do look better over time, as they settle in.
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Mio Shirai - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:29:53 EST ID:8xGYYT5x No.6027999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6026288
Does he not know She's had Piper's approval since she was called Rowdy?
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British Bulldog - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:24:16 EST ID:Oh+0vms/ No.6028042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm with Dave on the whole Miz shit. I've never been sold on The Miz, and even his promos do nothing for me. I guess he's trying to go for the snobby little reality show shitheel, but I can't suspend disbelief when he's such a company yes man that will show up at the local shock jock morning zoo radio show at 4am at every town.

I don't like him in the ring, and while he's a good trash talker, nothing he says ever hypes me up to see him get hit. I just don't wanna see him on my screen period.
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Who - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:30:01 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6028238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Mobile friends, fret not because .mp3 links are here.

>RAW WOR
https://my.mixtape.moe/ynueem.mp3

>SD WOR
https://my.mixtape.moe/brgdmc.mp3
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Who - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:30:47 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6028241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028238
B&V&C also up on the MEGA folder.

Cheers.
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Matt Bentley - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:04:56 EST ID:qbNV/N2j No.6028332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6025281
Honestly we do need Raw and Smackdown live on the network, gf hasn't got sky so can't watch the newest Raw and SDL shows as they come out DESPITE having the network
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Jeremy Borash - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:10:26 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6028335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6027817

yes I did. Baron Corbin and Miz, Miz and John Cena, Miz and Daniel bryan, Miz and Finn Seth. Those promos sold me on the match. Are you unable to fathom the idea that someone out there enjoys Miz and thinks his promos are good?
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anonymous - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:11:14 EST ID:rfYbac52 No.6028336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028332
WWE makes most of their money from tv rights. Just use a streaming website, you can find USA network feed or the sky sports feed depending on whether you prefer British ads or American ads
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Gran Akuma - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:15:57 EST ID:AOV747SN No.6028340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6028238
Thank you champ
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Rhett Titus - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:23:40 EST ID:oV45g1pF No.6028381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028332
Lmfao and WWE will lose millions
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Kamala - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:30:45 EST ID:fzRfdgNv No.6028385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028238
Bruno WOL?
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Who - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:38:04 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6028393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028385
Not up on XWT, sorry. :(
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Vine - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:18:59 EST ID:ndtZEBiY No.6028455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Filthy is so based that BRYAN ALVAREZ is willing to COME OUT OF RETIREMENT to team with him at Black Label Pro and sell a absolute shit ton of t-shirts
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Malia Hosaka - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:24:50 EST ID:zw71nozE No.6028458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
F4D?
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Tara - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:31:16 EST ID:Ni8tD7Sl No.6028462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
F4D
https://my.mixtape.moe/cfputl.mp3

Bryan may actually come out of retirement.
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Jun Akiyama - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:35:04 EST ID:MdYvPIgC No.6028465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here is Bruno WOL. I only have the Youtube sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yByAadHuYm4
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Malia Hosaka - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:54:28 EST ID:zw71nozE No.6028483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6028462
>>6028465
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Rhett Titus - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:58:47 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6028487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dave has said earlier that the Observer will be late because of Bruno so don't keep on asking when it's coming out. The thread gets posted when it gets posted, simple as.
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anonymau5 - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 22:47:53 EST ID:FAx1ITbw No.6028522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028241
I don't have the MEGA link, is there any way to get the link for B&V&C, please?
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Ranjin Singh - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:15:15 EST ID:gIpieQ/l No.6028541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://youtu.be/x-dasJbGRXI
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Seina - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 00:16:02 EST ID:Hgd1w/24 No.6028580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028522
https://mega.nz/#F!4zBgGALJ!6dri3Istk26MRQKN_ShyxQ
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Carlito - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 01:47:37 EST ID:V9fdE1+I No.6028630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's an app called Musi that plays youtube videos like music and keeps it playing even if you locked your screen its bretty good
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The Godfather - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:19:42 EST ID:kUfE3xLn No.6028669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028630
Yeah but is that going to chew through all of my data still like with youtube though?
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Terri Runnels - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 06:47:33 EST ID:Gcc4e2GE No.6028724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6028462
some good CHOPPIN here
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Chyna - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:34:05 EST ID:fkZKY/xc No.6028737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028462
ALL THE CHOPPING
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Maryse - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:44:40 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6028799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>People.com reported earlier this week that a source close to The Bella Twins told them that Brie "wants to kill" John Cena for the way that he treated Nikki while they were together. However, Brie has taken to social media to deny that report.

>According to Ryan Satin of Pro Wrestling Sheet, Brie posted a screenshot of the quote from the report and then wrote "I’d never say this. I’ll always love John Cena like a brother. He’ll always be my family. My heart is hurting for he and my sister. #Truth" in a post on Instagram story on Wednesday.

A shame we won't get to see that shoot fight.
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Crimson - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:49:19 EST ID:nQaS7vWl No.6028802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028238
Love you
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Crimson - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:49:19 EST ID:nQaS7vWl No.6028803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028238
Love you
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Maryse - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:35:58 EST ID:JtYOTU6N No.6028823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>As noted, Ring of Honor held their Steel City Excellence event over the weekend in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at the Stage AE. Based on several wrestlers who sent out tweets, it looked like there was a locker room fight.

>In an update, Dave Meltzer reported in the latest edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that there was somebody who was an extra backstage, and he was apparently sitting in Christopher Daniels chair.

>He was asked to move, got mouthy about it, and ended up in an argument with Flip Gordon. It turned into a fight, which Gordon reportedly won. No one got hurt other than Cody’s Chipotle.
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Gordon Solie - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:00:50 EST ID:fXXRsww6 No.6028833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6028823
>No one got hurt other than Cody’s Chipotle.
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Kodama - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:01:59 EST ID:V605+2td No.6028835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6028823
>No one got hurt other than Cody's Chipotle.

FLIP YOU MONSTER
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Rhett Titus - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:22:03 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6028848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
New thread is coming up!
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Dakota Darsow - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:31:40 EST ID:e3es68rQ No.6028855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6028823
and now we wait for rovert to sperg out, saying this is the "ROH office spin"
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Byron Saxton - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:43:21 EST ID:txlvQrqs No.6028857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028855
Rovie's living in your head rent free m8
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Chainz - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:09:34 EST ID:j8/wdEOw No.6028877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6028541

all that CHOPPIN
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Chuck Palumbo - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:31:27 EST ID:AumAAP4c No.6028888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028823
I was at that show. Cody gave a speech at the end with the B.C. and he brought Flip out and he did say 'this guy just got into a fight backstage' but I forgot all about it until I saw this. ha
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Dementia - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:36:03 EST ID:0V/yhfUT No.6028890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028855
quite literally who
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Tammy Jones - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 08:35:38 EST ID:hRTCF7Y6 No.6030108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6028630
don't know Musi, but NewPipe is probably way better


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