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I still miss him by Jinder Mahal - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 13:47:20 EST ID:QiQzE1fw No.6119017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Greatest redemption arc
>Believable matches with anyone
>Had the greatest no sell in history (Okada's rainmaker)
>Sacrificed his body to redeem himself long after he had gained acceptance

Most kino wrestler in history. I wish I got a picture with him when I had the chance when I saw him wrestle ZSJ in London.
Kaz Hayashi - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 13:51:26 EST ID:j5kVKSPM No.6119023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shibata vs Okada is my favorite match ever, i still miss him too.
James Storm - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:05:54 EST ID:rTDg3+vc No.6119035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
His return will be on the level of Kobashi returning from cancer. I haven't given up hope yet.
Bobby Lashley - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:08:47 EST ID:4Ub1EuNp No.6119038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Had the greatest no sell in history (Okada's rainmaker)

I don't know if it's the greatest, but holy SHIT was it amazing. Watching the match, I see the Rainmaker coming and it's just like "Welp..."


I lost my shit.
Damien Demento - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:18:14 EST ID:j0LWs3SJ No.6119048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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why miss someone who isn't gone

or do you just miss his hog in tights
The Great Muta - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:23:32 EST ID:XxXlnaAh No.6119051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Reminder that he has no one but himself to blame for almost dying.
Bryce Remsburg - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:23:57 EST ID:/BzzR13z No.6119052 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Don't you?
Damien Demento - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 14:26:21 EST ID:j0LWs3SJ No.6119055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>low-iq 01
what did he mean by this
Michelle McCool - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 15:32:00 EST ID:8e8YIVtJ No.6119086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shibata/Okada is the definitive final episode of professional wrestling. The bad guys win but our hero goes down fighting the sports entertainment, lucha ladyboys.

RIP Katsuyori "Kinoyuri" "The Wrestler" Shibata.

Real talk though, I have legitimately lost so much interest in wrestling and his retirement was a huge part of that. Without a doubt, the best wrestler of this generation (about 1998-2018). So many great matches, a proper aura around him, the most generic guy (wrestles in black trunks and kickpads) yet the most captivating, had a proper knack for wrestling, pacing, storytelling. I still miss him too. Probably for the best he's done though, those headbutts could have done much worse to him and we'd have to see him do the job to the stars and maybe get a pity "thank you" run down the line.
Big John Studd - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 15:41:23 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6119094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel you
I can't say I'm totally down on -all- wrestling but I'm definitely far less interested in New Japan than I was when Shibata was there. Maybe I ought to go drink some Monster but Shibata is what I want to see when i watch Japanese wrestling, stoic badass dudes with a 'martial arts hero' sort of quality to them. Now New Japan wants to push a bunch of British dudes on me, and just nope. Not interested.
Homicide - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 15:54:59 EST ID:fA3uRMLg No.6119104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Reminder that Katsuyori Shibata chose Kazuchika Okada - not Tetsuya Naito, not Hiroshi Tanahashi, not Shinsukay Nakamura - but the Rainmaker, the leader of CHAOS, he's on another level, O-KA-DA to end his 18-year career.
Nunzio - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 16:33:53 EST ID:aTkgu996 No.6119153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He definitely wasn't the best of his generation, and wasn't particularly gifted at pacing or storytelling. He was a fine worker though and it's a shame he fucked himself up so bad. He had amazing chemistry with Honma and Ishii
Damien 666 - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:23:21 EST ID:hbn+ErGx No.6119196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
With you there. He's left a huge hole. Suzuki is there but he provides a very different type of danger in the ring. Suzuki is like a slow sadist while Shibata was a wrecking machine. I'm waiting for his successor but it's going to be hard to replicate such a natural wrestler.
James Storm - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:24:03 EST ID:rTDg3+vc No.6119198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We still have Suzuki and Ishii so there's some hope for the time being.
Michelle McCool - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:28:35 EST ID:8e8YIVtJ No.6119199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>He definitely wasn't the best of his generation

I respect your wrong opinion.
Nunzio - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:42:54 EST ID:aTkgu996 No.6119204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just in his company Ishii, Honma, Nakamura, Tanahashi and AJ were better.

Shibata is an interesting case, because the "idea" of him is more responsible for him getting over than his actual matches. He never had the same consistency as the workers I mentioned. When he had a good match it was fucking goood, but the reason people like him is because of his gimmick. A stoic martial arts guy.

It proves that gimmicks are still what is most important in wrestling.
Onyx - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:08:53 EST ID:nVqxrMdw No.6119217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I'm gonna shoot headbutt you and this definitely won't backfire on me hard in the future if I keep doing it
He's a fucking dumbass
Damien Demento - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:11:17 EST ID:j0LWs3SJ No.6119224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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people liked him because of his intensity and charisma. whatever "gimmick" people think he had is overthought bullshit. yes, he was in a redemption storyline that might have had a title at the end if he hadn't got injured. that's all there was after sakuraba left and it's more than he needed.
Nunzio - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:33:38 EST ID:aTkgu996 No.6119236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Charisma, call it what you like. He got over through his persona.

What he really excelled at, ironically, was selling. But he worked the marks so good that they think what made him good was "intensity". Fair play, Shibata
Damien Demento - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 19:01:36 EST ID:j0LWs3SJ No.6119253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What he really excelled at, ironically, was selling
i agree 100%
Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 20:05:58 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6119284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone even know why he did it? I mean, everyone had to know that this is going to do serious damage, and yet he did it, what, twice? I really don't get it.
Ron Harris - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 20:15:28 EST ID:j0LWs3SJ No.6119291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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he's done it like 10 times where he grabs the other dudes head and smacks it against his. otherwise he does the normal full-contact tap (which is an actual shoot headbutt).

>Does anyone even know why he did it?
because it looks and sounds cool as hell
Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 20:21:27 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6119295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe if you like people killing eachother, to me it looks and sounds absolutely awful. I don't want people I like to hurt themselves or die, and this is the best way to do it.
Ron Harris - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 20:48:39 EST ID:j0LWs3SJ No.6119306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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then why don't you watch other forms of entertainment? not being mean, just sayin
Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 21:13:45 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6119316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because there's a difference between guys getting hurt accidentally while protecting themselves, or just getting worn down, and legitimately doing a stupid thing that WILL hurt you.
Mio Shirai - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 21:40:53 EST ID:5Lo1MFm8 No.6119341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>He never had the same consistency as the workers I mentioned

He was absolutely did. There was no one in the world more reliable at being given 10 minutes for a match and making it as exciting as the main event, and when he did main event it fucking delivered. He fucking mastered the art of condensing matches so that they were pretty much only the good parts but still made them feel more unique than most by sprinkling in some fighting spirit shit like having to get a rope break by biting the ropes since both his arms were being held back.

Ishii is definitely arguable but I would definitely put the others below him, especially Nakamura
Chase Owens - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 22:36:53 EST ID:fA3uRMLg No.6119367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tanahashi looked good with the white belt.
El Alebrije - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 22:41:37 EST ID:kDC//cmc No.6119371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Internets edgelords and neets love this guy because he was pretty much the Vegeta of New Japan. Anti-Hero blah blah blah.
El Alebrije - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 22:45:33 EST ID:kDC//cmc No.6119373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sgt. Slaughter - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 22:58:05 EST ID:V5teRIpo No.6119377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought that was Naito.
The People - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 23:30:47 EST ID:T3pNx6NP No.6119392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So essentially Shibata vs Okada was the Ashita no Joe of pro wrestling.
CIMA - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 00:43:48 EST ID:/BzzR13z No.6119422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Imagine being this much of a miserable contrarian.

People like Vegeta & Shibata 'cause they're far, far more interesting than Goku & Okada.

Jim The Anvil Neidhart - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 03:21:19 EST ID:+VhuaPO2 No.6119465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Deep bruh
Zelda The Brain - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 04:46:51 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6119481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Japanese Mac is awesome.
He REALLY likes headbutts.
Zelda The Brain - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:57:48 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6119499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also it REALLY sucks that we never got WALTER vs Shibata.
IMAGINE that match lads.
Justin King - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:25:45 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6119508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Only manlets can relate to Vegeta.
Brian Kendrick - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:39:29 EST ID:mu+Vr9nO No.6119510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kneel down when you talk to us you low-class warrior.
CIMA - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:21:18 EST ID:/BzzR13z No.6119546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Goku is 5'9"
El Alebrije - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:24:57 EST ID:kDC//cmc No.6119548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Everyone knows that Goku is the McDonalds of wrestling.

Masa Takanashi - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:25:40 EST ID:XHOpGBeC No.6119550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think anyone thinks Okada is to blame, or anyone other than Shibby himself. It doesn't detract from his work. It was glorious, and he went out, if he is out, on his own terms no matter how reckless and stupid.
Chris Sabin - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 15:30:38 EST ID:0sD5hfmS No.6119789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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'''''''''Redemption''''''''''' arc was a work you dumb mark, Shibata was the only one of the New Generation to actually carry out Inoki's vision of what pro-wrestling should be. He was no traitor, he was a bastion of the original New Japan vision of pro-wrestling as a legit martial art.

Tanahashi is the real villain here, turning NJPW into some family friendly lucharesu shitheap.
Rob Conway - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 15:34:37 EST ID:8e8YIVtJ No.6119794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're right about Shibata carrying out The Boss's will.

However, the redemption angle is because he left and came back when the money was good. He was more or less a heel for a few years and had to pay his dues for leaving. He was meant to come back and win the belt at WK but the boys in the back weren't happy so instead he gets squashed by Makabe. His redemption was proving to the boys he was loyal to NJPW and wouldn't leave again, to show the fans he would bust his ass harder than anyone to prove himself.

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