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AJ vs Bryan by Kevin Sullivan - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:08:07 EST ID:gJOPxW8a No.6152195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>it should be a 30 minute, 5-star classic, where Daniel Bryan wins and goes on to have the title reign he was always supposed to have, facing challengers such as Nakamura, Samoa Joe, maybe even Cena again for a 2013 rematch
>instead, it will be a <10 minute mid-card match that will end in DQ when Miz interferers, dragging out that god awful feud even longer, and having it so AJ can beat 434 just because WWE are that petty

WWE fucking sucks.
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Kotenks !!rbabk2zH - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:10:28 EST ID:V5teRIpo No.6152196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can watch this. It's a good match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX9Mvmtimtg
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Chiva IV - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:21:46 EST ID:S3PIn8fG No.6152198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>where Daniel Bryan wins and goes on to have the title reign he was always supposed to have

lmfao this idiot Bryan is going to injure himself again soon.
Giving him the World title would be fucking stupid.
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Tara - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:34:12 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6152201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152198
Fuck off.
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Cheyenne Cher - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:47:43 EST ID:cEFfMxB7 No.6152203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152198
This is one of the safest diving headbutt misses that I've ever seen.
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Kevin Sullivan - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:49:00 EST ID:gJOPxW8a No.6152204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152198
>doesn't even connect

lmao, you're a faggot
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Dr. Wagner Jr. - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 03:45:18 EST ID:/flHPeiU No.6152255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152195
Punk's 434 reign wasn't even good
From Raw 1000 until the Royal Rumble he was just a generic heel transitional champ waiting for The Rock to come back from hollywood
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Jey Uso - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 04:28:37 EST ID:XNuHz8MS No.6152263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152195
I’m not so sure current Bryan has that match in him.
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Jay Lethal - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 05:34:21 EST ID:SOrih875 No.6152277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As someone who likes the Miz and Bryan fued (pre Bryan return) I'm annoyed with what they did at SSD, like it's obvious what they're doing, it's setting up future storylines, but I just wanted to see Bryan and Miz have a good match.
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Harlem Bravado - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 05:39:25 EST ID:BL2lDbVH No.6152278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6152277
>The Miz
>Good Match

Good luck with that.
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Kota Ibushi - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 05:46:51 EST ID:tJqUxZ1P No.6152281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152278
Well meme'd, sir.
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Bully Ray - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 05:54:39 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6152283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152281
In-ring bell to bell wrestling is the weakest part of Miz's act, don't even act like it isn't.
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Arachnaman - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:04:20 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6152310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152283
It's his weakest act because the miz is just so damn good
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Gillberg - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:10:16 EST ID:K5LQvDpq No.6152316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6152310
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Sheamus - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 07:38:38 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6152323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152310
Imagine that WWE had ground down your standards so low that you actually considered Miz good.
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Mephisto - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 08:08:56 EST ID:n9Pax1m+ No.6152331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152323
I know, right
I get that Miz improved and had a hell of a run since the Daniel Bryan promo
But holy shit. I guess this is what happens when you actually protect a wrestler. That’s not a knock on Miz, before anyone jumps at me - wrestlers are SUPPOSED to be protected. Hide the weaknesses, Show the strengths, etc
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The Great Khali - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 08:52:47 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6152340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152331
I never understood the people who were claiming he was the greatest heel around. His generic "Hollywood elite" gimmick was forced, his promos were cookie cutter, and he resorts to "LOL INDIES SUCK" to get any kind of reaction. Worst part of all, his promos all end in having to watch him wrestle.
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Captain Lou Albano - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:20:48 EST ID:4ehapZRv No.6152349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152340

Considering that every other wrestler's promos are cookie cutter, and their gimmicks are boring as fuck, it's par for the course.
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Cibernético - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:33:10 EST ID:EyE7i4Z3 No.6152358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152195
>caring about work rate
>caring about meltzer sta ratings
>caring about vanilla midgets
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YOSHIHIKO - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:34:14 EST ID:T9a1DyS4 No.6152359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152358
Go back to sleep Nash.
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Cibernético - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:39:48 EST ID:EyE7i4Z3 No.6152362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152359
Nash sleeping in the ring for 3 hours would draw bigger ratings than these vanilla midgets
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YOSHIHIKO - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:42:07 EST ID:T9a1DyS4 No.6152363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6152362
>Nash sleeping in the ring for 3 hours would draw bigger ratings than these vanilla midgets

I chuckled.
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Sheamus - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:45:22 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6152365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152362
Who can forget the great ratings Diesel used to draw limping around a WWF ring
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Chainsaw Charlie - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:46:10 EST ID:hHlOW4K9 No.6152367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152340
How can you be upset at the only heel on the roster to generate heat in any situation? I'd rather have a shitty wrestler get the crowd riled up than watch some dude do movez to complete silence.
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Beth Phoenix - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:02:21 EST ID:vgIPL/JB No.6152370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152331
>a hell of a run

Like maybe 3 good matches in nearly as many years?
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Tara - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:14:57 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6152379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152367
>riled up
Ah, so getting any sort of reaction from these dead crowds is an achievement.
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Captain Lou Albano - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:20:30 EST ID:4ehapZRv No.6152381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152362

So would your mom, but unlike the people who have to pay for this tripe, I get it for free.
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Vickie Guerrero - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:20:59 EST ID:KxgAHvlF No.6152382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152379
yes it is actually. its their job as performers to get them excited, even if old man vince is killing the market
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William Regal - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:41:54 EST ID:9tsU6AgN No.6152389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152195
I'd be fine with AJ pinning Bryan clean after a 30 minute classic, then Miz jumps both of them.

But that would actually be interesting booking.
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Chainsaw Charlie - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 11:31:41 EST ID:hHlOW4K9 No.6152399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152379
That's the point of taping in front of crowds, yes.
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Repo Man - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 11:42:02 EST ID:aYKPiEY3 No.6152402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
S T O P

W A T C H I N G
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Axl Rotten - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:46:36 EST ID:xXbiRkZf No.6152424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>remember when Miz vs Bryan was going to be good?
>remember when people were billing it up as a 'blood feud'
>remember when people said it would be a feud worth holding off til Mania season

WWE also managed to make AJ/Nak about nut shots, fucked Rusev Day, fucked Woken Matt, are still relying on 4 guys who should have retired for good years ago and turned Braun heel. Why are people still watching this shit?
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Aero Star - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:48:56 EST ID:rDVsJxRz No.6152425 Report Quick Reply
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>>6152424

it seems to be almost an addiction for a lot of folks, battered wife syndrome or some such thing
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Sonny Onoo - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:53:25 EST ID:J4Ks8xms No.6152428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152402
>>6152424
>>6152425
But isn't it kinda natural to be frustrated with the by far biggest and richest wrestling promotion buying all the international talent just to waste them in a ridiculously boring program? The ever falling ratings and rising wwe stock show that "stop watching" apparently isn't enough.
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Arachnaman - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:54:43 EST ID:sZIj7buj No.6152430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152402
But how will he accurately shitpost if he doesn't watch the thing he's shitposting about?
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Super Hentai - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:56:20 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6152431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152424
>remember when Miz vs Bryan was going to be good?

This was never going to happen and I don't know where people got this idea.
Miz is an awful wrestler. Everyone knows this. Did they think working with Bryan would magically make him good?
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Alundra Blayze - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:11:00 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6152436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6152431
Miz is a good wrestler, not an awful wrestler. Bryan pulled a 4 star match out of Roman. Is Miz better than Roman? I think so...

The Miz has also had great matches with guys like Rollins and Ziggler.

The problem isn't the guys, it's the booking.
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:25:47 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Miz is a smart wrestler. He got over without destroying himself, never had a serious injury, he can go for another 5 years easily on top of the last 13+, retire with a load of money in his early 40's and not have his body rapidly fall apart as he gets older. I bet a lot of older wrestlers wish they could say that.
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Chris Candido - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:30:45 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6152446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152443
Good for him. As a fan, I'd say he hasn't had a single must see match
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Super Hentai - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:35:40 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6152450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152436
>Miz is a good wrestler, not an awful wrestler

But he is an awful wrestler.
Enough time has passed that we can admit he has only two or three genuinely good matches to his name, all with the opponent doing all the work.
It's not even a smark opinion, literally everyone in the business knows this to be true too.
The problem is most certainly the guys. Bryan hasn't had a single good match since coming back. He's not even half the wrestler he was in pre-retirement.
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WrestlingTheSport - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:22:44 EST ID:RtvftpwA No.6152466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Invent fantasy negative booking
>Get angry at WWE for doing the thing that you imagine it will do but it hasn't actually happened yet

Why does this shit happen so much on /wooo? Seriously I know WWE can be bad but at least wait until the shit happens before you get angry.
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Jaki Numazawa - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:31:47 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6152469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152450
>It's not even a smark opinion, literally everyone in the business knows this to be true too.
Daniel Bryan has stood up for Miz, you fucking mark.
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Alundra Blayze - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:31:59 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6152471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152450
What measurements do you use when you say he's awful? Your argument is that "literally everyone in the business knows this to be true too". But this is what John can said about Miz a few months ago

>“There are a few performers who share my ideology, with The Miz being one of them. That’s why he is skyrocketing into a new bracket as we speak, and I can’t wait to see what he does next week.

https://www.sescoops.com/john-cena-reflects-on-wrestlemania-loss-to-the-undertaker-praises-the-miz/
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Kotenks !!rbabk2zH - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:38:17 EST ID:V5teRIpo No.6152474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152471
>praised by the guy with such shitty selling he never got properly over as a babyface

not the best endorsement
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Hallowicked - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:59:18 EST ID:e6YLgP9k No.6152488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152474
>he never got properly over as a babyface
>Cena
Please think about what you're writing.

Also Miz has had good matches with shitters like Rollins, Ziggler and Ambrose so he's good in my book.
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Kenta Kobashi - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:05:07 EST ID:ZKUzQR7J No.6152496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm mad it's happening in Saudi Arabia. They have no idea who either guy is and don't care about good matches. Crowd will be dead quiet for anyone who wasn't around in the 90s and it's a huge waste to do it there. Should have just done Bryan and AJ in a tag match or something
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Alex Wright - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:14:28 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6152504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>WWE is a sports entertainment company.
>WWE books like a sports entertainment company.
>AJ Styles and Bryan Danielson are pro wrestlers.
>AJ Styles and Bryan Danielson sign with WWE, a sports entertainment company.
>WWE Fans: "Why are they booking this feud like it's sports entertainment?"

It's WWE. It's always been this way. Get used to it or find something else to watch. I honestly can't believe...like actually can't even comprehend how people are still surprised at WWE being bad. How long have you been watching? How can this come as a surprise?
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El Santo - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:16:06 EST ID:6VrC0Wv6 No.6152507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152488
The Cena sucks chants for 11 years says otherwise

Key word in his post
>PROPERLY
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Jim Powers - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:17:57 EST ID:1pm5my1Q No.6152511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152310
Easy skip let's not get carried away here.
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Chessman - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 15:32:39 EST ID:oYhk/k0P No.6152519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP did you not even watch the last Saudi Show

The fucking Saudi people had no fucking clue who Nakamura or Styles we're they're so far back in the past they see these two and they thought they were warm up talent much like how they saw the majority of WWE's current indie roster

This match is going to be greeted with silence just like AJ's match with Nakamura
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Ice Cream Jr. - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 04:04:52 EST ID:vgIPL/JB No.6152862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152488
Miz is the worst in-ring guy named in that post by a fucking landslide
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Chainz - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 04:31:34 EST ID:a+jl9L3h No.6152868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152507
except he did get over properly
it wasnt until he was pushed super hard into the main event against smark favorites that people turned on him
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 06:41:25 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152507
You clearly never watched in late 2004/early 2005. Listen to Cena's pop in the Rumble in 2005. Unanimous.
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 06:42:21 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152446
Neat. Your opinion has no effect on his continued success.
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Ice Cream Jr. - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 08:03:03 EST ID:vgIPL/JB No.6152909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152890
"Describe a WWE Superstar's push in 10 words or less"
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 08:50:34 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152909
Doesn't apply to The Miz though. Only heel who can consistently get booed.
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Blind Rage - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 08:52:48 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6152926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152925
"Your local sports team sucks! This town is a dump!"
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Don West - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 09:04:24 EST ID:SSSl+an6 No.6152934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6152925
>MIZ PRESS #360 ON YOUR PHONE
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 09:18:05 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152926
>>6152934
Move the goalposts all you want. I'm not wrong.
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Don West - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 09:24:55 EST ID:SSSl+an6 No.6152952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6152946
>Move the goalposts
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Dawn Marie - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 09:26:03 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6152953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152946
Miz is a generic heel that anyone can do if we're going to be honest here.
He can talk in front of crowds, but that doesn't MEAN he's good at promos.
He's been cutting the same promo for close to five years now. All he does is bury the town, put over some other team and talk about his 'movies'.
If you show someone a promo he did in 2014 and one he did a few weeks ago, they would be mirror images of each other.
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Mo - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 09:36:03 EST ID:pOjElc1d No.6152962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152946
I don't think you know what "moving the goalposts" means
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Sean O'Haire - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 09:40:18 EST ID:UkUpaVJR No.6152967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152953
>Miz is a generic heel that anyone can do if we're going to be honest here

Sort of. Miz has legit Hollywood clout even if half of it is WWE straight to DVD trash. He has great intensity, a smug and punchable face, and he plays the chickenshit heel role exceedingly well. The Miz has a role and he plays it to near perfection.
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Albert - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 09:43:04 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6152970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152890
>I mark for a guy because he makes a lot of money, regardless of how entertaining he is to me/other fans.
This is by far hte worst aspect of pro wrestling fandom.
People so desperate to look smart by business metrics they discount the entertainment value of wrestlers and pro wrestling. Very sad!
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Blind Rage - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 10:06:19 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6152982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152946
I didn't move the goalposts whatsoever, do you know what that phrase actually means or are you just trying to sound clever?
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 10:15:41 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152953
Why can't anybody else do it then?
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 10:20:24 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152970
He is always booed. Always gets heat. Always gets the face he's up against cheered. Always elevates a midcard title when he wins one. Always featured on tv. That's continued success, dipshit.

>I think he's bad so therefore my opinion has more weight than anyone else's
This is by far hte worst aspect of pro wrestling fandom.
People so desperate to look smart by disliking something they discount the entertainment value of wrestlers and pro wrestling. Very sad!
Look! I can do your retarded shit too!
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Lin Bairon - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 10:21:37 EST ID:4fbjhvX1 No.6152992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>miz has legit Hollywood clout
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 10:25:35 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6152994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152952
>>6152962
You didn't argue my point and tried to make a new one. Textbook.
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AnswerisB - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 10:37:46 EST ID:9ZbRWhGD No.6153003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why would anyone want a title reign on anyone where we see Nakamura and/or Joe lose ANOTHER WWE Championship opportunity? It was hard enough to see them both lose thrice a piece to AJ.
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Poison Sawada JULIE - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 12:58:31 EST ID:gJOPxW8a No.6153039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152466
>j-just see what happens guys?
>w-why do you think WWE will do the shitty, nonsensical, godawful option and not the good option?
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Raisha Saeed - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 14:33:32 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6153085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152446
His match with Cena at WrestleMania 27 was pretty good. Plus him and John Morrison carried the tag division for a good while (can't really think of any specific matches from that tag run though). I think they might have had a good match with the Hardys at one point?
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Zack Sabre Jr. - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 14:44:55 EST ID:0VLU6ACJ No.6153091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152379

Yes... Yes that's how wrestling works.
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Kama Mustafa - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 14:50:15 EST ID:a30yxniw No.6153096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152195
Having it at Crown Jewel is what really gets me. This is not the match for that sort of occasion. This is a wrestling fan's wrestling match. This is for people who have followed TNA and ROH for the last 15+ years.

To put it simply: the crowd at Crown Jewel will not appreciate this match.

It should have been in the United States in a smaller arena. Somewhere like Rupp Arena would be good because of a hot crowd that won't take a specific side and won't get too smarky (KY fans love wrestling but don't cheer heels).

Or crazy idea: do it at Full Sail. WWE has never done a main roster PPV down there and I think it would be an incredibly electric house if they did.
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Kotenks !!rbabk2zH - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 14:56:07 EST ID:V5teRIpo No.6153099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153085
That Wrestlemania 27 match was pure shit.
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Octagón - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:23:57 EST ID:sChpv64K No.6153116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Man I don't care if I have screwed up priorities but I totally disagree with OP. You totally overrate the importance of long matches and totally underrate the importance of heated feuds.

There would be no heat in Bryan, or anyone really, just having a normal respectable world title reign. If WWE actually delivered on this kind of thing it would be boring and hollow in a lot of ways just like Okada's big reign was. Stop chasing this fantasy.

This kind of "why don't they just push the best people and book them to put on the best matches" mentality is nice and everything but that's all it is, it hasn't really worked in America in a long time and I dunno how some people can still cling to that kind of booking logic. American wrestling has been about so much more than that for so long now, you need much more than just good matches for a good product.
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The Great Khali - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:31:51 EST ID:hXw4Knj/ No.6153123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153096
you are a mark.
stop watching wwe.
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:32:48 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6153126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153099
Nope.
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Octagón - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:35:27 EST ID:sChpv64K No.6153132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The way people get worked up over this and think WWE is trying to troll you with this kind of booking is fucking insane.

There wasn't anything really wrong with the AJ vs. Nak feud except that it went for too long, there's nothing fucking wrong with a feud based around low blows, but some people really got it into their heads that Vince booked it that way just to piss people off. I mean I was kinda mad Nak didn't get the belt for a while but no way was that feud some kind of radioactive pile of shit that some people here treated it as.
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Lita - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:38:25 EST ID:wgqituuN No.6153136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153132
I was under the impression it was booked to suck because WWE sucks at booking.
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Tommaso Ciampa - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:40:20 EST ID:bFftojHL No.6153137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153132
>There wasn't anything really wrong with the AJ vs. Nak feud except...

the matches that they hyped up as the greatest of all time and turned out to be low effort snoozefests.
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John Laurinaitis - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:44:05 EST ID:Xh9P7wdB No.6153142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152994
How did Don West RNG move any goalposts?

>>6153126
Nevermind. Don't answer that. I'm blocking you.
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MsChif - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 15:55:12 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6153149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153142
Only a child blocks someone for a different opinion to theirs.
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William Perry - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 16:18:31 EST ID:fKgU0wdg No.6153165 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153132
>No heat of effort into building the WM match
>Nakamura turns on AJ after a meh match
>Rematch at Saudi with a countout
>This somehow means they need a No DQ match to settle it
>That ends in a double countout cuz both men couldn't get up at 10 after kicking each other in the dick(don't try to go into semantics, they were both counted out)
>This means this must be a Last Man Standing match cuz we somehow wanted/cared about who can get up from a nutshot when this started
>AJ wins
>Nakamura gets a pity US title run and AJ's reign gets worse as it goes on with another 2 fuck finishes on PPV against Joe

>There wasn't anything really wrong with the AJ vs. Nak feud
Liar.

Though I agree people's expectation from it was hilarious considering their WK match was merely decent.
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Raisha Saeed - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 17:08:03 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6153201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153126
That's like your onion man
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Scott Lost - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 17:15:30 EST ID:App5w9hk No.6153205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We need more short matches, OP. Work rate is the most overrated thing in wrestling.
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Kama Mustafa - Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:21:11 EST ID:a30yxniw No.6153289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153096
If I'm a mark, then what are you?
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The Blue Meanie - Wed, 10 Oct 2018 05:34:36 EST ID:vgIPL/JB No.6153480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153205
Pace is more important than length

Ishii matches feel like incredible epics but they just rush by, while HHH & Orton matches feel like torture
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Kane - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:20:18 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6153853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>yfw Jamal's execution is a work and will run in during the main event
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Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:35:14 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6153878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153085
>Miz vs Cena at WM 27 was a good match
>a must see singles match even
Nigga.......did you *actually* see that match?
It was HORRENDOUS. An absolute nothing match for teh first 5 mins, they brawl into the crowd, MIZ KNOCKS HIMSELF OUT, then The Rock comes in and the match immediately becomes about setting up Rock vs Cena for next year. Miz was the 3rd wheel in that match, despite being the Champion going in, the match was awful, easily one of the worst, and most forgettable WM main events of all time. And it's only real purpose was to set up a proper main event for the following year.
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Ed Ferrara - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:01:48 EST ID:inmVyBFL No.6153888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152466
WWE has a track record of not delivering as seen by that one picture of Cena doing the AA to like six or eight up and coming heels that were buried and had their momentum taken away from them, including Ryder


>>6153085
>I can't tell you any details about these moments, including a main event of WM that everyone only remembers for The Rock and entrances and not for the match, but they were good!


it's great that Miz is as good as the heels of yesteryear at getting booed, it'd be even better if he was even a quarter of the in-ring performer that they were
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Vine - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:24:09 EST ID:/LMUJzdn No.6153894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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when will u nerds understand that a good match in WWE comes down to how well it is put together and booked by an agent

jesus fucking christ
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Big Dick Dudley - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:40:42 EST ID:App5w9hk No.6153897 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153894
And only then if Vince lets the agent have free reign over the structure. This is why random shit like Miz v. Rollins at Backlash ends up being so good. He let Tyson Kidd do his thing.
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Scott Steiner - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:25:03 EST ID:hgRn6nE3 No.6153931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153085
Why do you like that Mania 27 match?
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Starman - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:11:13 EST ID:DAl4M+qm No.6153951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153894
you don't get it man, OP has already saw the future and decided he hates it. That's how things work on the internet.
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Hurricane Helms - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:12:03 EST ID:Kqp/ZsqS No.6153952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152450
>if they don't do MOVEZ they're a bad wrestler
Fuck off wannabe smark
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Vince McMahon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:30:50 EST ID:m4yzwk5G No.6153968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153897
yeah and on that show Michael Hayes booked that garbage ass Joe/Reigns resthold fest

have no clue why they went that route to sabotage the match when on RAW they had a very good IC Title match.
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Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:44:35 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6153985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153894
Reminder that PS Hayes booked the worst received Royal Rumble of all time.
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Trent Acid - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:09:04 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6153998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I bet at least 80% of this thread thinks Hulk Hogan was a bad wrestler
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Ted Turner - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:19:11 EST ID:QRDzVMkP No.6154004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153085

Poor example fam.

I thought his run with Ziggler a year or two ago now was great. That's when it struck it me that Miz transformed into a solid worker. He played his part in that amazing 4-way against Cesaro, KO, and Sami too. And yeah, that Rollins match a few months back was great too. I wouldn't expect him to carry anyone to a good match but he can hang.
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Kurrgan - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:28:20 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6154014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153998
If you go back and watch the 80s and early 90s Hogan matches, you'll hear some fans booing him.
That's how the wrestling business works. Some people cheer who they like and boo who they don't.
If you can't understand that, you shouldn't be a wrestling fan.
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Seina - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:46:45 EST ID:5dbirUqy No.6154026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153998
But he was.
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Trent Acid - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:57:20 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6154036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154014
Went off on a tangent there, bud.
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Ed Ferrara - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:57:24 EST ID:inmVyBFL No.6154037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153998
Being a bad wrestler doesn't matter because I can remember a Hogan match, even the fucking Andre match was just more than the one slam spot but even then, the crowd cheered motherfucking Jake Roberts over Hogan once, not everyone has a hive mind brother dude jac
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Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:59:05 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6154040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153998
Are you one of these people that pretends to be entertained by attendance numbers and merch sales as opposed to the actual onscreen/in ring action for the sake of looking "smart"?
I don't care how much money he drew brother brother, Hogan was boring as paint drying to watch in ring.
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Electroshock - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:24:53 EST ID:Ru8eE4Lf No.6154049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154040
What about enjoying his charisma and personality, which DO matter in ring? His intensity and the way he wins over the crowd? How about enjoying how good at understanding and playing his role he was? Or the amount of movezzz is the only measure you have to determine who is a good wrestler?
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Portia Perez - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:19:19 EST ID:Kqp/ZsqS No.6154532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6152362
Literally nobody cares about Kevin Nash anymore, he may as well not even exist.
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Portia Perez - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:21:22 EST ID:Kqp/ZsqS No.6154534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153123
Yeah God forbid a wrestling fan like wrestling. Kill yourself.
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Vince McMahon - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:09:05 EST ID:tJqUxZ1P No.6154573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154049
>Or the amount of movezzz is the only measure you have to determine who is a good wrestler?
Yes, yes, it literally is.
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Serena Deeb - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:17:40 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6154577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154573
what about charisma, look, storytelling, athletic ability, ability to engage the crowd, working safe, pace, teachnique etc.

Are you from 2004 and did you just start watching wrestling? Do you only like Jack Evans and Teddy Hart? Even they learned a bunch of other aspects of wrestling as they got older. Jack Evans looked great on Impact yesterday.
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Generalissimo Takada - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:21:43 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6154584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6154532


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