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NJPW roster unhappy with new management; many more now considering leaving to WWE by Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:05:56 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6153902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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From this week's Observer;
>Let's just say that the next few months are going to be very interesting. Some early contract offers made have raised some concern to go along with the issues mentioned in last week's issue. While there is a lot of pride here for the quality of the matches stemming from the Kobe and Long Beach shows during what is usually the post-G-1 down period, and the great reaction to G-1 and its business success, but the new regime (Harold Meij and new General Manager Michael Craven) is very different and not experienced in dealing with wrestlers. There may be economics that we're not aware of, but there was a lot about the U.S. expansion with enthusiasm, between the new dojo and running a regular California and West Coast second circuit (which I don't think would have been a good idea) and the pull back from there, and other changes.
>But it feels like a lot has changed in the last 30 days. Craven, who is believed to be the head of talent relations as well as international expansion, may be the most unpopular guy among the wrestlers with the new regime. Craven I believe was the Tech Business Director at Hays Japan, managing technology recruitment for a company and had worked in IT recruitment for 20 years. He has lived in Japan since 1998, coming from the U.K. and has been involved in developing many of the top senior level technology executives in Asia. The initial reaction was that the feeling was that he talks down to the wrestlers and made strange comments and they know he has no background in wrestling, which is a very unique industry.
>Morale with the company was very high as you could tell by any interviews with the talent, particularly during G-1 where the level of work had led to high pride across the board with the feeling they were doing the best matches in the world and producing the best overall product. Now the morale is more weird than anything, with more uncertainty about what will happen next and less confidence than with the old administration. Another person noted that the new team has gotten off to a rough start and that all the wrestlers, both Japanese and American, are talking about how they feel like they are seen as workers in a factory assembly line as opposed to high level athletes or entertainers.
>The excitement so many had for working here has taken a hit. It's really a bad time for that with the goal of international expansion and that fun vs. WWE money was a key to a lot of people, but if you lower the fun aspect, that changes the equation, and basically we're coming in on the single most interesting and important contract season since New Japan started garnering some international growth. There are people who in the past had never even considered WWE who are thinking about it, and others who were completely committed to staying who are probably still leaning that way, but are considering the WWE option.
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Vine - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:12:24 EST ID:/LMUJzdn No.6153903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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he wins again
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Eddie Kingston - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:15:32 EST ID:x23H9WPw No.6153906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>most wrestlers hate corporate
>NJPW brings in new corporate guy
>morale drops
Big fucking surprise.
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Flip Kendrick - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:16:10 EST ID:iqpvPPmM No.6153907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good. NuJapan has been bad for a while now.
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Arik Cannon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:16:38 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6153908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Be unhappy with out of touch, restrictive management that looks down on you
>want to sign to wwe
>lol dirtsheets
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Seina - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:24:53 EST ID:5dbirUqy No.6153909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
a big fat yikes
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Iceberg - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:28:41 EST ID:okQNd7pI No.6153910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Say it with me E-cels

>RECORD LOW RATINGS AND STOCK PRICES
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Jerry Lawler - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:37:49 EST ID:Q2t/dFXT No.6153912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is this a sign that wrestlers truly only care about dimes?

These fucks always rep their 6-stars but then they say stupid shit like "NJPW's officials are annoying :((( i wanna join WWE instead!" /pol/ buzzword of the months for sure.
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Seina - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:41:13 EST ID:5dbirUqy No.6153913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What I don't understand is their fascination with a product vastly inferior to their own. Maybe it's just the money.
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Arik Cannon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:42:13 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6153914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is the Bucks feeding information to Meltzer so they can join WWE and not look like they sold out because "NJPW is being meany to us". I mean come on "it's not fun"? that's a very vague complaint.
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Command Bolshoi - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:51:36 EST ID:naPGPrFw No.6153917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>hiring some IT dude to be the head of talent relations
LOL WCW
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Jonathan Barber - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:52:18 EST ID:zLV2Sp6n No.6153918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
NJPW would be completely fine with Kenny, The Bucks and Omega.
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Arik Cannon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:53:49 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6153920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153915
Yes because Dave's inside men are clearly Ishii and Okada
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Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:54:29 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6153921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I will say that if this is their complaint;
>all the wrestlers, both Japanese and American, are talking about how they feel like they are seen as workers in a factory assembly line as opposed to high level athletes or entertainers.
then going to WWE is not going be any different.
However they will probably make more money, which is what it all boils down to.
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Seina - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:56:06 EST ID:5dbirUqy No.6153922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153918
>Kenny [...] and Omega

Greatest tag team in the history of our sport
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Ed Ferrara - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:56:34 EST ID:inmVyBFL No.6153923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153921
target vs wal-mart, mcdonalds vs literally every other fast food chain, etc

this is pretty wild
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Ed Ferrara - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:02:12 EST ID:inmVyBFL No.6153924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153920
he sounds absolutely retarded trying to force "poo Japan" like twice but come on dude, you really think this is some sort of set up by the bucks?
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Sin Cara - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:10:18 EST ID:NjIYmjs2 No.6153926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153908
E keeps corporate and talent separate. Suits are all in Stamford and they have a massive talent relations division to bridge the gap. NJPW is smaller, some of the new suits seem pretty useless AND they are interacting with them directly.
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Hajime Ohara - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:13:30 EST ID:BhRoi1Pf No.6153927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153914

100% correct, Bucks kayfabing shit here so they can look like the good guys when they are jobbing to the B-Team on the preshow.
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Amber O'Neal - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:21:25 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6153928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Remember when Meltz interviewed Omega on his show after WK 2017, talking about whether he would jump to WWE or re-sign with NJPW?

And then it turned out Omega's NJPW contract wasn't even up for renewal and a month later Meltz was like "Kenny couldn't even leave at this moment."

It's pretty clear that Omega and the Bucks have fed the narrative they want out there to Dave. This could be a way for them to get leverage for a better offer from NJPW mgmt.
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Heath Slater - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:28:04 EST ID:ulD6A95l No.6153933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Craven, who is believed to be the head of talent relations as well as international expansion, may be the most unpopular guy among the wrestlers with the new regime. Craven I believe was the Tech Business Director at Hays Japan, managing technology recruitment for a company and had worked in IT recruitment for 20 years. He has lived in Japan since 1998, coming from the U.K. and has been involved in developing many of the top senior level technology executives in Asia. The initial reaction was that the feeling was that he talks down to the wrestlers and made strange comments and they know he has no background in wrestling, which is a very unique industry.

the fuck

What a weird-ass choice for head of talent relations for a wrestling company
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Command Bolshoi - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:29:26 EST ID:naPGPrFw No.6153934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153933
Literally WCW Tier.
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Texas Tornado - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:44:38 EST ID:n99WA2E0 No.6153940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
less gaijin the better
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:44:46 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6153941 Report Quick Reply
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>>6153940
I hate gaijin now too.
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Hillbilly Jim - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:46:24 EST ID:xMQwFxfI No.6153943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153941
>based people pleaser NJ following the crowd
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:46:31 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6153944 Report Quick Reply
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>>6153943
So the crowd can only be one?
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Amber O'Neal - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:53:54 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6153945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, it appears that Don Callis is likely done as an announcer with NJPW. Callis wasn’t called for the KOPW show and hasn’t been called about any future dates, but he hasn’t been told he’s no longer being used. Callis was unable to work several G1 events due to his schedule with Impact Wrestling, More than just bring an announcer; he helped put together the Omega vs. Jericho match that did big business for the company. The idea right now is to have a rotation of color commentators through the end of the year. The feeling is that if he’s brought back, it may just be for select big shows that fit his schedule. Jim Ross has been talked about for the Tokyo Dome, with the idea of using the live feed on AXS rather than going in studio and voicing it over. Lanny Poffo’s name has also come up as a possible replacement.
https://411mania.com/wrestling/don-callis-likely-done-with-njpw/
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Hillbilly Jim - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:55:08 EST ID:xMQwFxfI No.6153946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153944
No, but the gang can.
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Misutero - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:57:49 EST ID:XLTtjcV4 No.6153947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153945
I'm going to miss hearing him.
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Gorilla Monsoon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:02:10 EST ID:tfX57fz5 No.6153948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I bet some pissed off teenager that can't stand people like other wrestling companies sent this to Meltzer and he didn't even fact check it.
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Hurricane Helms - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:06:13 EST ID:Kqp/ZsqS No.6153949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What's the source dave?
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Mick Foley - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:13:24 EST ID:31Ampg4a No.6153953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153902
It's probably most likely the bucks working Dave once again or even just exaggerating about any possible issues or it's true and Gedo will just get him to fuck off like he did with Kidani back in 2012, not liking this particular brand of employee management and in response going to WWE of all places would be a massive yikes
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Sylvain Grenier - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:18:44 EST ID:+gE+AVnQ No.6153957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153944
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Tyler Reks - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:23:01 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6153960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Realistically speaking, who would jump ship to America? Goto, Ishii, Suzuki, and the dads are too old. I don’t think the Young Lions have much say in anything. Tanahashi is out of the question. I guess I could see Naito and the rest of L.I.J. besides Shingo leaving. Other than that the Gaijins are the only ones that really make sense.
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Seina - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:28:18 EST ID:5dbirUqy No.6153963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153941
Based NJ
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:28:26 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.6153965 Report Quick Reply
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>>6153963
His theme is based. Teddy hart.
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Amber O'Neal - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:29:53 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6153966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153960
no Japanese talent is leaving.

This is literally only about Kenny, Cody and the Bucks (and Hangman and Marty)
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Hillbilly Jim - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:31:28 EST ID:xMQwFxfI No.6153969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153965
>wearing white after Labor Day

Taaaaackyyyyy!
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Drew McIntyre - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:35:24 EST ID:jLRHXPS9 No.6153972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This sounds like a work, to make it sound better than "Triple H is buying The Elite except for Cody but we want to keep our indie cred"
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The Maestro - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:36:47 EST ID:rh1YhD/u No.6153974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so wanna come to owe instead of wwe? we bring snackpine diet
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Lance Hoyt - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:40:42 EST ID:3arOfaW4 No.6153976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153941
thought nj was posting sexdolls now and got scared
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Kyle O'Reilly - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:41:32 EST ID:XuKVHNoU No.6153978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153966
>>6153953
>>6153949
>>6153948
>>6153928
>>6153927
Holy fuck, Dave mentions one thing negative about New Japan and suddenly he's lying or he doesn't have a good source?
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Tyler Reks - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:42:08 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6153979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153966
So you’re saying nothing of value was lost?
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Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:46:59 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6153986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153945
Well this was kind of a given really with him getting more and more involved with Impact on a management level. I've been happy with Rocky Romero/Chris Charlton and Kevin Kelly, that team seems to be right going forward-
>Jim Ross has been talked about for the Tokyo Dome
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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Mick Foley - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:48:31 EST ID:31Ampg4a No.6153987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153978
Omega literally spent January 2017 using the "speculation" that he may be leaving to advertise forthcoming feuds on WOR and grow interest
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Adam Bomb - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:48:38 EST ID:6quMZYqc No.6153988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153902
Major change is always going to bring a degree of unhappiness. If it's really sapping morale that badly then the company will address that. Honestly this morale thing is probably a lot of the longer tenured guys who don't work that much or workout getting worried they're gonna lose their spots soon. Also can one of these new execs fire KES? They're fucking shit.
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Reckless Youth - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:49:16 EST ID:WNuZWFf6 No.6153990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't see any of the top Japanese stars leaving or giving this info to Meltz, so hopefully this means that it's his boys the Bucks telling him it like they talked shit to him about BUSHI, and leads to most of the gaijin fucking off.
I have no problem with foreigners in Japanese feds, but most of the ones in NJPW are shit. Just keep Juice and the Best Friends around and replace the rest
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Pitbull - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:52:32 EST ID:4HkBL4Ou No.6153991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gaijins will be the death of NJPW
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Evangelina - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:54:35 EST ID:h38yE9ft No.6153993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153902

I had a funny feeling this was gonna happen, this is Harolds 1st year now dealing with new contracts/ re negotiating.
So i can imagine some on the talent might be getting a pay cut or not feeling they are getting their worth. If there is any truth to this i can only imagine its the older wrestlers who harold probably thinks should hang up the boots.
Also i cant imagine all the gajins taking all the spotlight atm is sitting well with alot of the japs
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Natalya - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:59:35 EST ID:JWuqQ2TU No.6153996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153993
Nagata doesn’t deserve this
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Amber O'Neal - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:05:39 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6153997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153945
>Lanny Poffo’s name has also come up as a possible replacement.

https://twitter.com/aiwrestling/status/1050374290405842944
Unfortunately @LannyPoffo has cancelled his appearance on November 3rd however we found not 1 but 2 legendary professional wrestlers to replace him!
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Tiger Mask - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:09:22 EST ID:fA3uRMLg No.6153999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dave Meltzer is a HATCHET MAN.
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T-Hawker - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:49:25 EST ID:Al0JoNzw No.6154029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153941
BASED
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Shannon Moore - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:51:45 EST ID:ZaucmyTc No.6154030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dave has no sources on the Japanese side so he has no idea how they feel, this is ONLY about the Elite and who knows if they're working him again, they could tell him literally anything at this point and he'd believe it.
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Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:57:16 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6154035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154030
>Dave has no sources on the Japanese side
That's a very definitive statement to make without some proof, or y'know a *source*
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Command Bolshoi - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:17:42 EST ID:kH2YAbOG No.6154045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153965

amen NJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TadTuCk7mKM
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Kurrgan - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:15:59 EST ID:wgqituuN No.6154061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This sucks, all being said. Really hoping it’s bullshit from the elite nerds to posture for better deals. New Japan was doing a great job at offering an alternative to WWE and them getting all corporate and not respecting the wrestlers would bum me out hard. If it’s true, hopefully they realize they did something wrong and fix it ASAP.
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Stinky the Homeless Guy - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:25:00 EST ID:Gsl9E1sK No.6154063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OLD GOOD NEW BAD THE THREAD

Seriously, these NJPW Divas need to get over themselves and realize they need big changes in order to play in the big leagues.
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Mae Young - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:27:31 EST ID:bs4OxC4x No.6154066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153908
Well, if both of your best options are run by out of touch, restrictive management, you might as well go with the one that pays more.
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Nigel McGuinness - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:31:43 EST ID:WDRpnaXM No.6154068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153978
he has never had a backstage source for NJPW, that's the problem
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Joel Maximo - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:43:31 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6154074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154068
what's your source for this statement?
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Pitbull - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:46:32 EST ID:4HkBL4Ou No.6154077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's like Jim Herd all over again. Cant wait for them to shave Tanahashi's hair and call him Spartacus as well as making the Young Bucks into the New Ding Dongs.
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Joel Maximo - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:07:54 EST ID:rgxBz+Rx No.6154084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>hire a suit who knows nothing about wrestling to manage talent relations.
>the wrestlers hate him.

who would have thunked
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Sniper - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:09:51 EST ID:YxXqjyk9 No.6154085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154068
>he has never had a backstage source for NJPW
Got a source on that statement there pal?
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Jamilia Craft - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:21:20 EST ID:j5kVKSPM No.6154088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153941
hey Netjester, who's that girl?
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Byron Saxton - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:31:15 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6154094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154088
It's netjester herself
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MECHA Mummy - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:32:23 EST ID:4fbjhvX1 No.6154095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>all the wrestlers, both Japanese and American, are talking about how they feel like they are seen as workers in a factory assembly line as opposed to high level athletes or entertainers
And they think WWE is the answer? I mean, cool if WWE are going to double your pay, but they're not going to treat any better.

I wish people nothing but the best if they want to make more money, nearly everyone in the same situation would do it, but it's selling out and no one could persuade me otherwise. Some of these guys have managed to get massively over doing their own thing, away from the WWE, changing the landscape of wrestling. To throw all that away, albeit for more money, is a shame. WWE product sucks and barely anyone manages to shine under their bubble with their booking.
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Mick Foley - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:36:23 EST ID:Q5GiI4pe No.6154097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6154094
>netjester is a girl
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Husky Harris - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:48:13 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6154104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154097
Fool, Netjester is far beyond the mortal concepts of "boy" and "girl", he's just Netjester
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Byron Saxton - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:51:05 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6154105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154097
a while back Netjester posted a candid pic of an ordinary plain-cute Asian girl with a post in first person
since then that's been my headcanon about NJ. she's just wearing a lot of makeup this time

speaking of other Netjester alt canons there's a lady and a lake here: >>6153965
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Kurumi - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:52:31 EST ID:rKwc1PhY No.6154106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154095
I'm not sure how anyone in NJPW could watch the Styles/Nakamura ball-kicking feud and think 'Finally, a place where I'll be reated like the professional I am!'.
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El Hijo del Ice Cream - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:57:04 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6154107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154104
>Netjester is a trap
Nice!
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Billy Kidman - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:10:55 EST ID:pSyn6XS7 No.6154113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wresting is about to die again I take it.
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Slick Johnson - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:46:33 EST ID:tJqUxZ1P No.6154131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153912
There are only two real things in the business: the money and the miles.
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Mister Toad !SsYwTDHDIY - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:54:38 EST ID:xwEc6ugM No.6154137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154113
I kinda feel like wrestling just had the standard 20-year nostalgia bump that everything else gets, and now it is dying down again. Everybody is into the late 90's right now , and wrestling got warm again as a result.

I feel like that's all over though and it's going to decline now. A lot of people felt like All In was the start or progression of something in wrestling... to me it kinda felt like the swansong.

I don't wanna be cynical but I think the boom has already peaked, but people keep thinking it's still on the way up,
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Slick Johnson - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:58:40 EST ID:tJqUxZ1P No.6154138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154077
>making the Young Bucks into the New Ding Dongs.
That'd make them worth watching, though.
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Hugo Savinovich - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:15:52 EST ID:gC1kNI37 No.6154149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153945
This isn't that big of a deal and doesn't really mean much in this conversation. Don Callis is cool but Kelly/JR and Kelly/Chris/Rocky are the best commentary right now
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Harold - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:16:59 EST ID:TYEvMnEb No.6154151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Why are you guys mad? I finally rid NJPW of the Tongans.
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Deuce - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:37:09 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6154168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
looks like the WWE's relationship with the Saudis are getting more mainstream attention

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/wwe-faces-criticism-for-upcoming-saudi-arabia-event-amid-investigation-into-journalists-disappearance
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Deuce - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:37:47 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6154170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154168
oops wrong thread
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Buddy Rogers - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:43:05 EST ID:LgYJLKj+ No.6154174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope that Kenny and the Books go to the WWE so I can see based Kenny Omegaga become cruiserweight champion and the Bucks appear on a ppv preshow every 3 months.
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Lance Bravado - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:11:31 EST ID:6RdgcQZh No.6154218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My take is that this is blowback for Omega and the Bucks registering the Elite brand a couple years ago (the wrestler aren't/weren't getting residuals for BC merchandise) and constantly going into business for themselves ever since then.

Turning themselves babyface with the crowd.

Talking down about the other members of BC who aren't as athletic and don't earn as many snowflakes.

Meij is happy to see the Elite go and so am I.
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Kenny - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:55:23 EST ID:n0MsySuJ No.6154232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153933
It obviously comes down to the fact that online/social media chatter has given the company an inflated sense of their prospects outside of Japan. They started believing the twitter and circlejerk crowd translated to a larger American crowd which doesn't actually exist so they probably figured they'd need huwhites to run the show while they expand into the west even though non-wrestling Europeans from Jap companies are likely not going to know anything about the American wrestling market.

Common lesson companies need to start learning: social media amplifies a few small voices. Never let it be a driving force behind your decisions.
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Isis The Amazon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:06:06 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6154259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154232
>NJPW expanded into America because of a few posts on social media
>It had nothing to do with the huge success of the joint ROH shows in America
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Boddy Roode - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:15:03 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6154288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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mfw cody goes back to wwe and falls back into the midcard blackhole of IC/US title feuds with the miz, kofi kingston, and daniel bryan
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ODB - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:37:29 EST ID:Qytrojse No.6154301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154077
>making the Young Bucks into the New Ding Dongs
I thought their gimmick was that they were Ding Dongs?
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Serena Deeb - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:45:02 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6154302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
who cares watch impact
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Harlem Bravado - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:08:19 EST ID:UE+ENxEa No.6154308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154302
make me
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Jackie Moore - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:20:47 EST ID:XydbAVNb No.6154311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154301
Diddly?
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Steve The Turtle Weiner - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:20:49 EST ID:XuKVHNoU No.6154312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154288
Miz, Kofi, and Bryan are all main eventers.
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Portia Perez - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:23:54 EST ID:Kqp/ZsqS No.6154314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154232
Kill yourself e drone, NJPW is the real big leagues and is more popular than WWE. Don't tell me WWE is more popular, the /pol/ buzzword of the months that make up their fanbase do not count as people.
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Portia Perez - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:26:09 EST ID:Kqp/ZsqS No.6154315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153978
WHERE'S THE SOURCE DAVE????
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Ashley Cartier - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:43:23 EST ID:6RdgcQZh No.6154324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Ian Rotten - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:49:13 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6154327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154324
So, that narrows it down to Cody, Omega and Young Bucks...
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Jackie Moore - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:04:53 EST ID:XydbAVNb No.6154335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154324
Lmao if it’s someone like Elgin
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Luna Vachon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:10:41 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6154337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6154335
he thought he knew what fun was until he got to bully the minis of CMLL
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A.J. Lee - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:11:24 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6154339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154335
it's Chase Owens
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Serena Deeb - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:13:04 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6154340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Serena Deeb - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:22:28 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6154341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154340
lol oops
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Jon Moxley - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 22:31:55 EST ID:8rpIrpxa No.6154342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154337
He finally gets the chance to tower over someone
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Boddy Roode - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 00:40:04 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6154356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
turns out dave is making the whole thing up so he'll have a hot story to sell subscriptions
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Michael Kovac - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 00:47:55 EST ID:hj11i0MX No.6154358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Dave being worked
>marks buying it

It's like there's a weird cycle of stupidity...
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The Maestro - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 00:49:15 EST ID:7qC7vcaL No.6154359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153902
I've been waiting for this. Putting a Dutch, non-wrestling businessman in charge was never a good idea. Japanese companies in general need to get over the idea that Westerners only respond to Westerners.
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Dick Murdoch - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 02:07:13 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6154373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone who follows real sports knows what's going on here. When a player's contract is coming near an end, the player (in the case of sports the player's agents, actually) will contact their favored reporters and give a story of how they might go and sign with the competition. It's all negotiation for a higher contract offer.
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R-Truth - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:21:18 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6154402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ARMBARS EVERYWHERE
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Dustin Diamond - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:22:33 EST ID:hUI88j7i No.6154403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's a work, people. Don't be fooled.
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The Big Show - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:26:36 EST ID:naPGPrFw No.6154404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154402
>harold's favorites defending him
What a shock
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Amasis - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:20:38 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6154410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154356
[citation needed]
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R-Truth - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 07:10:51 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6154420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The Toyosu market finally opened and I often hear it on news every day. It always comes with bad things, rumors and distrust from the outside for new things (I do not have any trust yet because I have not gotten any trust yet), I want to say. "Do you pay attention to so bad places, is it fun to play bad news of bottom line?" I think that it is natural that there are a few things in the facilities just started, such as "fire from Thale in the new market", "Thale is in contact with women", "traffic jam in the new market", and others are unfamiliar.

>There is a topicity as "new market = trouble continuation" rather than "new market = favorable", and the receiving side also wants to think that "I think that there was something" after all There are people who are working desperately trying to put the new facility into orbit. In the shade of bad news, there is a person purposely shedding bad news. People who are trying hard can get frustrated with exhaustion of meaningful rumors and words every day. Is it fun if the new ones are struggling and greatly mocking?

>The other day, from some foreign gossip site, negative description about the new system of New Japan Pro Wrest was given, but most of the contents of it became really disgusting feeling. In the pro-wrestling world this might be a daily chill. I tried to thru as it was, but I felt that the company name of the career I wrote was a completely different person with falsehood, I felt how well it was written, so I refuted a single word. There are about 60 players in the New Japan Wrestling, including athletes who only sometimes do not participate in the new Japan Wrestling, and their positions and treatment differ. But to all of our fans, we believe that the management team, the players and the staff never again will come to the New Japan Wrestling, the dark days will not come, I believe that I am working hard now, I hope that you will support me warmly in the long term think. (When I was thinking about such a thing, Tama - Tonga players tweeted his idea while I did not know, my eyes got hotter.

Although the story changes to a clothes and a bright one, there seems to be a few who seems to have preached to Iihide player behind the scenes, but I sent only the telepathy in this column about this riot Is not ... But when I sent a telepathy to Iihide, I understood that it would take about 48 hours to receive it. In the first place, that is not anything exaggerating about Iihide 's complaints or advice, and I'm totally accustomed to tweets of this hand to the people who Ibosehi says, I was surprised at this time that it was a little serious! It's awfully bothered by that person, but it's a message I wrote with a sorrowful feeling that it seems okay "(← Please read on Onene's wind tone). From now on I would like to watch over the rare genius with you like a girlfriend star who gently watches Hideo Starry with the stars of the giant from the shade of the tree.
https://sp.njpw.jp/freediary/harold-george-meij20

Meltzer Status: BTFO
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Juventud Guerrera - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 07:47:33 EST ID:jt8RrdQ1 No.6154432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was Chase Owens
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Pinkie Sanchez - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:23:45 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6154439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154420
Yeah I don't know what the fuck is going on, but it's obvious Meltzer got some e-mail and just published the info without looking into it.
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Amasis - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:27:00 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6154440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154439
Can you prove that?
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Pinkie Sanchez - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:31:23 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6154442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154440
Did you even read the post I responded to?
The guy Meltzer wrote about doesn't even fucking work for NJPW.
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Amasis - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:51:49 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6154444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154442
>it's obvious Meltzer got some e-mail and just published the info without looking into it
Can you prove this?
No need to get upset, just asking if you can.
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R-Truth - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:59:24 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6154445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154444
he doesn't need to because he isn't publishing a "reputable" newsletter
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Pinkie Sanchez - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 09:04:00 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6154448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154444
Yes, the proof is the Obsever itself.
Meltzer is considered a journalist, correct?
Any good journalist would fact check before printing a story to avoid a libel situation.
That clearly didn't happen here, despite Meltzer having contacts in NJPW.
So if you can't come to the logical conclusion that Meltzer, who ALWAYS talks about how he has to rush the Observer every week, published this story without looking deeper into it, then I don't know what else to tell you. It's clear as day that's what happened here, like him or not. He got some piece of information and wrote some bogus story to make a deadline. Not that hard to figure out.
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Kenny King - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 09:11:05 EST ID:ga9RAND8 No.6154456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154448
why are you wasting your time here and not out cracking unsolved crimes?
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Perry Saturn - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:48:55 EST ID:2TXSmINF No.6154484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154420
Here’s that post from Meij translated with a different app, which while also not perfect tends to get a lot more right than others:

>Toyosu Market finally opens and you often see and hear about it on the news every day.I want to say that new ones are always accompanied by abuse, rumors and distrust from the outside (although it can't be helped because they haven't been trusted yet)."Wouldn't it be fun to focus so much on bad things and report nasty things about them asked."I think it's only natural that there are a few things happening in the facilities we've just started, such as ""a fire broke out in a new market,"" ""a Tale coming in contact with a woman,"" and "" a traffic jam in a new market."

>"New markets are more popular as news than ""new markets are going well"" and the people who receive them probably want to think, ""I thought there was something, after all,"" but they are trying hard to put new facilities on the right track."Behind the bad news are people who are intentionally spreading bad news.Those who are doing their best will be exhausted by the daily nasty rumors and words and will probably break their hearts.Would the world be fun if something new were struggling and badly jostled?

>The other day, some foreign gossip sites made negative statements about the new system of pro-wrestling in Japan, but most of the content was false and disgusting.In the world of professional wrestling, this may be a daily occurrence.I thought of going through it as it is, but the company name in the background was also completely false and a different person, and I felt that it was written in an appropriate manner, so I argued back one word.I think there are about 60 players in the new Japan Pro Wrestling, including those who only occasionally participate in the sport, who are in different positions and treatments, but I think the fans will never forget their management, players and staff.(When I thought about it, Tama Tonga tweeted his thoughts before I knew it, and my eyes got hot.)

>In other words, there are a few people who think Iibushi gave a lecture behind his back, but I only know that he would send me 48 telepathies in the column, though he would take some time.In the first place, it wasn't any pompous complaints or advice to Iibushi, but to Iibushi supporters, "I'm kind of used to this kind of tweet, but this time it's a little silly!I'm sure he'll get really upset, but it looks like he's okay."I want to continue to watch over the rare genius with you, like Akiko, who is watching Yuma Hoshihi quietly from behind a tree in the "Giants' Star."
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Legs - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:59:43 EST ID:1M76Elzu No.6154487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154484
>When I thought about it, Tama Tonga tweeted his thoughts before I knew it, and my eyes got hot.

EYES. GOT. HOT.
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Emi Fujino - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:22:56 EST ID:+gE+AVnQ No.6154496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154487
My eyes was hot.
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:26:03 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6154500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154356
>a known fiction writer lying his ass off for clicks
This is news, how?
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Grizzly Redwood - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:26:44 EST ID:Q2t/dFXT No.6154502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's weird to me that Dave would publish something without even asking other English-speakers in the company for a comment. That's such an obvious thing for any journalist to do, and Dave is always harping on other journalists when they publish something they shouldn't have... very disappointing.
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Jimmy Hart - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:10:56 EST ID:3SThP4ye No.6154526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wish more of you would use common sense and not take everything Meltzer says as gospel. It's obvious he doesn't have a Japanese source, his sources are the Elite and they've been using him like the mark he is to up their own value. Before that one fag asks there's nothing to prove because he never has scoops from the Japanese side unless it's common knowledge or speculation.
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Serena Deeb - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:19:40 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6154533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so meltzer was given shity information from probably cody or the bucks. can't see kenny saying shit like this. embarrassing.
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Scott Hall - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:25:21 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6154543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Meltzer is a hack journalist, also, the sky is blue
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Tori - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:27:49 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6154544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154327
Cody and Omega are WEEBS and love it there. Bucks are money marks and don't give a fuck about "fun". Guarantee it's ZSJ.
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Amasis - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:31:03 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6154547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154544
You don't know what money mark means.
Based on how you used it in this post.
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Matt Classic - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:44:56 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6154557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154484
>but I only know that he would send me 48 telepathies
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Jimmy Hart - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:53:07 EST ID:3SThP4ye No.6154562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154544
What's more likely, that it's ZSJ or his "friends" in the Elite? Who it was or why doesn't really matter, the point is that he's been worked again and you shouldn't take any of it seriously.
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Ian Rotten - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:53:08 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6154563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154526
>I wish more of you would use common sense and not take everything Meltzer says as gospel.
no one actually does this, every time, I see way more people bitching about this happening than it actually happening

>>6154502
Because Tama Tonga is totally an honest and trustworthy source
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Stinky the Homeless Guy - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:55:56 EST ID:rKwc1PhY No.6154566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6154484
>but I only know that he would send me 48 telepathies in the column,
NO!
GET OUT OF MY HEAD, MEIJ!
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Cherry - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:55:35 EST ID:48OGHxY7 No.6154738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's super weird how insecure and upset Meltzer makes some wrestling fans.
Get a g
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BxB Hulk - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:15:59 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6154995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>On Dave's new radio show, he brings up the NJPW stuff and expands on it. Between reiterating his report from the Newsletter, he adds a lot more.

>He says the people he is hearing from about unhappiness are across the board in the company, including the top Japanese talents. It's not just the Elite that he's talked to about it, and it's a vast majority of guys that are unhappy. Not everybody, but a lot of them.

>He notes that Tama Tonga is one of the guys mad on Twitter about it, though he heard back in July when Tama got disciplined for his language and the incident with the fan that he was angry at the office about their reaction to it.

>He mentions that at the time of the G1 Finals, nobody on the BC Elite side wanted to leave NJPW and they were planning on staying but now it's more up in the air. He says that the decision was basically a done deal and now is being reconsidered.

>He thinks that if the internal reaction is to lash out against the report and guys who are talking to him as opposed to fixing the issue, then it's only going to get worse. He insinuates that he thinks the issue is bad enough that if it continues that it's got even the top guys thinking about options "except Tanahashi".

>Talks about how some of the Japanese talent is bothered by the company hiring a lot of foreign top executives who don't have experience in wrestling.
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Sable - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:21:43 EST ID:k0HEdZ6S No.6154999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154995
Oh, look at that, it’s almost like Tama is full of shit. I mean, come on, do the Meltzer contrarians think that people would vent their true feelings to Tama Tonga of all people?
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MEN's Teioh - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:24:44 EST ID:CXBa0qkv No.6155000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154995
>He insinuates that he thinks the issue is bad enough that if it continues that it's got even the top guys thinking about options "except Tanahashi".

hard to say out of context but feels like the exclusion of Okada from that except list is pretty purposeful
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Super Crazy - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:28:06 EST ID:wmHudcx4 No.6155001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154995
Don't fall for this retards.
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Cherry - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:31:24 EST ID:lY5Th+xU No.6155002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154995
>NJPW suddenly starts getting "bad management' once WWE would start sending Omega and the Bucks offers
hmmmmmmmmmm
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Sable - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:49:46 EST ID:k0HEdZ6S No.6155011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155001
The retard would be you
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Primo - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:52:08 EST ID:0V3677v4 No.6155013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't care whether Dave is being played or not, can the entire elite clique fuck off to the WWE or be their US indie stars or whatever. Im sick of them shitting up the place.
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Lance Hoyt - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:22:06 EST ID:QSGu3A37 No.6155027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> This place isn't fun to work in anymore
> Management sucks
> Better go to WWE

I wish you the best at, maybe, 2 tag title reigns and separate cruiserweight championships, before fading into the backdrop like everyone else.
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Rene Dupree - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:39:01 EST ID:tJqUxZ1P No.6155031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155027
In fairness, you have a good chance of earning more money because WWE will most likely pay good cash to undermine NJPW/strengthen their own market position, so if you have to chose between a rock and a hard place, you pick the one that gets you more cash.

Not saying that I buy into the dirtsheets, but from a certain point of view it makes sense.
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Super Crazy - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:52:17 EST ID:wmHudcx4 No.6155038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just listened to this an he's covering himself so hard, "there may not be any exodus except maybe one guy"
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Johnny - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:59:06 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6155045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155027
>I can be miserable here in a foreign country destroying my body for a bit more more than average pay
>or I can be miserable in my home country for twice the money they give me
I wonder.
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BxB Hulk - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:14:59 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6155066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155045
>or I can be miserable in my home country for twice the money they give me
>and all I have to do this is travel twice as much across more miles, pay for my own travel and lodging, jump back and forth between countries and work Christmas, Labor Day and all family birthdays, while my boss makes an obscene amount of billions of dollars that I will never get a cut of
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Bryce Remsburg - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:21:54 EST ID:WDRpnaXM No.6155075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155045
i hope the enjoy working on x-mas
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Johnny - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:25:32 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6155082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155075
Is that really such a big deal? I honestly wouldn't give a fuck less if that was me. Maybe they're the same, who the fuck knows.
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Will o' The Wisp - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:43:39 EST ID:lFB90EYC No.6155101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155082
Christmas is the only time my whole family has time off and we all see each other so working on christmas would sucks huge balls
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Mike Bennett - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:09:37 EST ID:n0bGl+si No.6155121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155000
as much money as NJPW is throwing at him, WWE could throw a lot more if it means taking away new japan's absolute biggest talent
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Jimmy Superfly Snuka - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:19:38 EST ID:FPokWxcx No.6155130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153902
As long as it's only gaijins we're talking about here, I don't give a fuck. Young Bucks and Cody can GTFO. Only ones I'd kinda miss are Omega and Juice.
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Tursas - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 17:39:01 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6155246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>"there may not be any exodus except maybe one guy"
in 2019
chase owens crosses the line
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Shayne Hawke - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 17:47:34 EST ID:1FlO1TsO No.6155248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155130
this
new japan has too many fucking gaijins
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Edge - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 17:51:03 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6155249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155031
Plus, if they get injured, WWE takes care of them, still paying them
while in NJPW, if you're on a per-appearance deal, you're shit outta luck if you get injured
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Kensuke Sasaki - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 17:58:01 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6155252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155066

>pay for my own travel and lodging

I thought WWE paid for travel expenses?
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Dory Funk Jr. - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:18:01 EST ID:bdQpxxse No.6155257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155066
>while my boss makes an obscene amount of billions of dollars that I will never get a cut of

how is that different from corporate owned NJPW?
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Kyle O'Reilly - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:37:37 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6155265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155257
NJPW doesn't make billions.
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Dementia - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:40:09 EST ID:u4xmT2Sg No.6155267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155265
Yukes makes billions stupid.
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Dementia - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:40:42 EST ID:u4xmT2Sg No.6155268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155267
Bushiroad*
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Super Crazy - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:13:12 EST ID:wmHudcx4 No.6155286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155249
Japanese residents are required by law to have health insurance so this is a non-issue.
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Super Crazy - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:14:55 EST ID:wmHudcx4 No.6155288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155286
Ignore this, I misread the post.
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BxB Hulk - Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:21:02 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6155293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155252
from what I understand, WWE pays for the flights at beginning and ends of tours. But the boys have to pay for their own rental cars, gas and lodging driving from a Raw taping to the next house show.

NJPW has tour buses for their crew AND they're only going across Japan which is much smaller than the US. And they don't have to bounce around between the US and Canada and Saudi Arabia and the UK and wherever else WWE goes. And they don't work 4 weeks a month.

The WWE schedule is brutal. You pay a lot of it out of pocket. And you have no leverage on your percentage of royalties from the video games, Network subscriptions, PPV buys, action figures and t-shirts ... if you don't get from something like Ciampa getting cut from the video game or Neville getting cut from the Wrestlemania DVD. And if you get left off the house show loop, like a lot of the cruiserweights, you're not making much more than your downside guarantee.
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Hyo Watanabe - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 06:09:07 EST ID:Nzf+M2q3 No.6155406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154995

I honestly can see The Bucks wanting to leave for WWE. They have small kids that are starting to grow up and get into school and stuff. You want to be there as much as you can when you're a parent. Idk about Kenny, but I can def see The Bucks leave. Being close to his family was a big reason that AJ left too
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Shuri - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 06:47:44 EST ID:zLV2Sp6n No.6155407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155406
Uh, if wanting to be with their family more is a priority, they sure as fuck won’t get that in WWE.
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R-Truth - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 07:04:06 EST ID:CFh1IU9j No.6155409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155407

It's a lot fucking closer than Japan half the time which is why AJ and Tensei left for WWE.
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Beef Wellington - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 07:16:22 EST ID:iqpvPPmM No.6155411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155409
But the schedule is the issue with being with family. Its good to be mostly state side throughout the year but they're on the road a lot so probably get a day or two a week at most with family.
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Shuri - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 07:17:52 EST ID:zLV2Sp6n No.6155412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155409
Are you really trying to argue that WWE won’t be a more grueling schedule? First off you’re over estimating how often The Bucks are even in Japan. Secondly, as independents they can choose time off when they please. In WWE they aren’t afforded that luxury.
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Jazz - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 08:27:01 EST ID:vTtpdQ7H No.6155423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155409
You know that WWE runs shows on Christmas Day right?
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Rosa Mendes - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:29:13 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6155456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155423
You know that New Japan washes their hands of you if you get injured while on a pay-per-appearance deal, right? Ask Trent. Just saying, there are many factors at play here, I'm not going to sit here and say WWE's schedule doesn't suck. It sucks that they have to work on Christmas, no one will deny that, but, being independent has its grim realities, too.
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Jamie Knoble - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 11:02:10 EST ID:3NTV2g3P No.6155463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155456
>You know that New Japan washes their hands of you if you get injured while on a pay-per-appearance deal, right?

Oh, you've been falling on your liver five times a night and it's starting to hurt? Here, take a Zpak and get out there, we're hitting Poughkeepsie tomorrow for a house show!
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Beef Wellington - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 11:24:31 EST ID:iqpvPPmM No.6155471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155463
>no u

How much of a NuJapanlet do you have to be to try and pretend that NJPW is perfect compared to WWE?
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Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 11:29:38 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6155476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155471
>NuJapanlet
You must go back.
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Kaz Hayashi - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 11:29:58 EST ID:5sEgNvdZ No.6155477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155463
Clearly there's no wrestling avenue that is good for health, including WWE, but WWE do pay for surgeries and shit and there does seem to be job security while you are out injured. There's cons, obviously, that WWE gatekeep the healthcare and presumably have to know your medical info if you want them to pay for anything, and probably they're gonna pick your doctor.

But weigh that against the indies where there's no job security, you're responsible entirely for paying/arranging cover for your medical bills, and people are generally pressured to work hurt rather than lose dates,

How ideally WWE would cover actual health insurance (and recognise their independent contractors as employees), but it does WWE's shit system is still preferable.

I kinda wonder if the phenomenon of indie guys suddenly getting injured more when in WWE isn't just about the additional work, but also because they can simply be more open about nagging injuries in WWE.
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Mason Ryan - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 11:45:20 EST ID:XHOpGBeC No.6155484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6153907
Ah yes, and the quality will surely rise with an exodus of talent. How dumb fucks like you even get dressed in the morning is beyond me, but chances are you're baiting to begin with spouting dumb shit like that.
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The Red Rooster - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 11:57:32 EST ID:UkWHNEd7 No.6155489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155423

WWE does one live Raw on Christmas and now it's suddenly a regular thing?
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Roxy Astor - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:12:35 EST ID:eo/jd5H+ No.6155552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155484
There might be an exodus, but not an exodus of talent. It's probably just going to be The Elite. They'll make big surprise debuts on NXT and the fans will gobble it up, only for them to be moved up to the main roster where fans will constantly argue about whether they're being used correctly. Meanwhile, New Japan fans will barely notice they're gone. Expendable gaijin.
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Kevin Dunn - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:32:57 EST ID:6RdgcQZh No.6155607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155552
This. Switchblade already has the clean win over Kenni. They will not be missed.

I think Cody's staying, though.
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Papaya - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:09:49 EST ID:9PpOH2E3 No.6155637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155489
i dont know about currently but live wrestling on xmas has been a thing as long as i can remember. the idea being that xmas is essentially over by noon , so what do you do with the rest of the day? go to wrestling
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Rayna Von Tash - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:19:19 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6155644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155607
What's this "Kenni" thing I see contrarian smarks doing lately?
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Kevin Von Erich - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:44:37 EST ID:zg16563G No.6155654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6155644
I dunno but if I had to guess it'd be making fun of him going full Japanese for the championship and since they don't usually end words with Y they do the Japanese pronunciation with an I at the end? nb for wild guess
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DJ Skittlez - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:47:10 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6155655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155644
Probably romanized ケニー, although that would make them wrong.
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Sexy Star - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 17:45:18 EST ID:gc5f6PR6 No.6155668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155644
Making fun of the women audience at NJPW shows

>SHINSUKEEEEEEE
>KENNIIIIII
>IBUSHIIIII
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Lena Yada - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:01:12 EST ID:OFkFUGSb No.6155685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6154448
Every single sentence you have there is a bigger jump and reach then the rest
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Matt Sydal - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:42:27 EST ID:biLCIrxH No.6155760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Meltzer does not report anything unless he has more than one source. Lets say a reliable unbiased source with no ulterior motive, lets call him Nick J, tells Dave "Lots of guys are unhappy and thinking about leaving" its not actually news until Dave gets confirmation from a trustworthy man with nothing the gain by lying, Matt J.
Then its $10 news.
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M-Dogg 20 - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 23:25:16 EST ID:J3h5ZzwV No.6155879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155668
>HYO-KUN!
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Danny Doring - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 23:39:37 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6155887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155879
HYO-KUN~!
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Mascarita Dorada - Sun, 14 Oct 2018 23:56:42 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6155894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155668
It's Kenii
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Lizmark Jr. - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 00:55:52 EST ID:vTtpdQ7H No.6155903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155456
I didn't know but it's not pertinent to this topic.
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UltraMantis Black - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 01:31:56 EST ID:H+HnPzss No.6155914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155644
It's a feminization thing. Like calling the Dallas Cowboys the Dallas Cowgirls, or the Vikings the Viqueens.

It's a bitchmade way to call him a bitch, essentially.

>>6155887
HYOU-KUN HYOU-KUN HYOU-KUN HYOU-KUN!
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Jeremy Borash - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:29:13 EST ID:5sEgNvdZ No.6155920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155914
I thought it's a Japanese pronunciation thing
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Hyo Watanabe - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:37:58 EST ID:Nzf+M2q3 No.6155921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm just gonna throw it out there, if Juice is unhappy he should jump ship to DG. Him in Natural Vibes would be sick af
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Danny Doring - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:43:08 EST ID:R6Z0PTFf No.6155923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155921
>Juice in NV
Sounds awesome. Also, Juice would probably be a fucking giant in DG.
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Turbo - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 03:20:47 EST ID:7SkqhvG6 No.6155927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155921

He doesn't have abs though.

Also, he isn't flippy enough. Then again, CIMA isn't in charge anymore.
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Jimmy Uso - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:05:44 EST ID:zIgsd0pN No.6156014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6155927

The abs problem is really easy when you join DG. They have the secret stuff that gets you mega-jacked easy peasy!
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Elix Skipper - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:20:00 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6156060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153997
>>6153945
LOL

>It was previously reported that Don Callis is likely done as an announcer with NJPW And that Lanny Poffo’s name had come up as a possible replacement. Poffo confirmed this on the latest edition of The Genius Cast (via prowrestlingstories.com)…

>“I’ll tell you what I know. Michael Craven from New Japan, I met him September 1st at All In. He asked me if I would be interested in holding the microphone as a color commentator [for New Japan] and I responded, ‘Wow, that would be great!’ I love New Japan. I’ve never been to Japan. Can you imagine that? Of all the countries I’ve been, I’ve never been to Japan. That is on my bucket list! It’s just an audition. I’m flying out October 23rd and I’m coming back November 4th.”
https://411mania.com/wrestling/lanny-poffo-audition-njpw-commentary-job/
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Nick Patrick - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:20:33 EST ID:jLRHXPS9 No.6156062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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IT'S HAPPENING

https://twitter.com/KarlAndersonWWE/status/1051870182455607297
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Bob Backlund - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:27:44 EST ID:Q2t/dFXT No.6156068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156062
Please be Karl going back to NJPW and not Omega or one the Bucks coming to WWE
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Luther Reigns - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:34:25 EST ID:5l17+F3R No.6156070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We are all being le workt
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Wade Barrett - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:35:13 EST ID:shWWcQO/ No.6156071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156062
means literally nothing
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C.W. Anderson - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:39:13 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6156072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156068
Fuck why couldn't it have been AJ Styles or one of the Good Brothers.
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Brie Bella - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:40:08 EST ID:BxsoGG2K No.6156073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156062
Glad to see it's still super easy to work fans.
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Elix Skipper - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:53:35 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6156081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6153902
> Craven, who is believed to be the head of talent relations as well as international expansion, may be the most unpopular guy among the wrestlers with the new regime. Craven I believe was the Tech Business Director at Hays Japan, managing technology recruitment for a company and had worked in IT recruitment for 20 years. He has lived in Japan since 1998, coming from the U.K. and has been involved in developing many of the top senior level technology executives in Asia. The initial reaction was that the feeling was that he talks down to the wrestlers and made strange comments and they know he has no background in wrestling, which is a very unique industry.

>>6154484
>>The other day, some foreign gossip sites made negative statements about the new system of pro-wrestling in Japan, but most of the content was false and disgusting.In the world of professional wrestling, this may be a daily occurrence.I thought of going through it as it is, but the company name in the background was also completely false and a different person, and I felt that it was written in an appropriate manner, so I argued back one word.
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Elix Skipper - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:06:23 EST ID:BlrIoG3o No.6156082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6156081
Bix and Voices of Wrestling did more digging and realized there are TWO guys named Michael Craven who work in Tokyo and the IT guy might be the wrong one. Did Meltz report on the wrong guy?

>Googling a little deeper, it DOES look like there are two Tokyo based Michael Cravens. The guy with the deleted Twitter looks decidedly different from the guy at Hays.
>So this actually makes perfect sense: If Michael S. Craven is the NJPW hire, there was nothing about him online because he appears to have deleted his social media pages around the time of his hiring...leading folks to the other Michael Craven.
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1051874074929090561
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1051875700863627264
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1051878262140522496
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1051879163706138625
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Deuce - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:12:55 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6156086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156081
>>6156082
>David Bixenspan
not even once
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Mascarita Dorada - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:29:59 EST ID:m/rkMakp No.6156093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156082
>he appears to have deleted his social media pages around the time of his hiring
What's Wayback Machine, Dave, you illiterate fuck?
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VinceRusso !xSTib00awk - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:39:28 EST ID:2TXSmINF No.6156096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156086
Eh, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. This all seems plausible.
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Luke Gallows - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:25:04 EST ID:iIRFTW1H No.6156112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6156082
Reminder
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:35:06 EST ID:8m6Wnq08 No.6156119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156112
There needs to be a Virgin vs. Chad meme for this
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CIMA - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:42:47 EST ID:hHlOW4K9 No.6156124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156112
>>6156119
>The Virgin Journalist

>The Chad Gossiper
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Luke Gallows - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:55:25 EST ID:iIRFTW1H No.6156129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6156119
The fact Bix won't even watch NJPW because Kenny blocked him and it isn't PC enough for him and Meltz is Metlz could be meme gold
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Michael Nakazawa - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:55:48 EST ID:WilGvh4D No.6156130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156124
the virgin "journalist"
>#listenandbelieve
>has to stalk people across the pacific online like a creep
>can't let workers just work the fans, has to ruin the illusion for everybody


The Wrestling Chadserver
>bangs entire joshi locker rooms, probably at once
>everybody calls him
>literally solidifies angles to sell them, makes everybody more in to the shows
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Dragon Kid - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:31:17 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6156175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156096
Yeah he does good stories and gets good scoops but goddamn is he a whiny passive aggressive little bitch at times.
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Kenny - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:00:33 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6156197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156129
Don't forget that fucking hit piece Bix wrote on Omega
or that time Meltzer directly told Bix that he doesn't have time for his "childish antics" on twitter
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Jessica Love - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 17:22:33 EST ID:/a8425lV No.6156209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6156130
>bangs entire joshi locker rooms
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Typhoon - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:12:08 EST ID:Qytrojse No.6156273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6156209
It work for Lord Alfred Hayes, I'm sure Meltzer is making him proud.


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