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THE DIRT SHEET THREAD: THE LATEST FROM MELTZER AND MORE (6TH DECEMBER '18) by Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:13:45 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> The reason Lynch hasn’t worked house shows or done anything physical on television is that she also hasn’t been cleared as of press time. She was cleared from the concussion, but not from the nasal fracture. Concussions are the tricky ones, as you can’t predict clearance time, but for a broken nose, you can predict it better and the expectation would seem to be that they expect her cleared within the next 11 days. She has limited clearance at this point, so has been on television but was not allowed to be involved in any physical contact this week.

> WWE TLC isn’t sold out, but there are very few tickets left on either the primary market, and there are only 800 left on the secondary market, but even so, the demand isn’t that high as the price for entry is $51.

> Scotland’s ICW ran its 11th Fear & Loathing show on 12/2 at the Hydro in Glasgow, and it showed the decline in the U.K. business. In 2016, the show, featuring Kurt Angle and Team 3-D as outside wrestlers and Finn Balor as a guest (originally to be Mick Foley but WWE needed him for Raw that week) drew 6,100 fans, which is still the largest crowd for a U.K.-based promotion dating back to the 7,500 that attended the Big Daddy vs. Giant Haystacks match at Wembley in 1981. Last year’s show did 4,000 fans with Rey Mysterio and Rob Van Dam as the outside stars. This year, with The Briscoe Brothers, James Storm, Jeff Jarrett and Scotland’s Noam Dar as the outside stars, they were down to 2,000 fans. With the decline in crowds, and the SEC in Glasgow holding 4,000, it would seem to make sense to move the show there next year.

> What is notable is that the first hour of RAW did the lowest first hour in history, and the rating picked up substantially in the second hour. Since football season started, the second hour has only beaten the first once, on 10/22, and that was by 13,000 viewers as opposed to this week’s gain being 137,000 viewers. You could say last week’s show turned people off, but if that was the case, hours two and three wouldn’t have been up from last week. The Bayley, Bliss in-ring talk show segment was going to be death, and that’s probably part of it, and you did have a lot of Baron Corbin, whose presence has seemed to repel viewership. But Corbin was all over the show.

> As far as the first hour went compared to the prior week, it was down 17.2 percent in women 18-49, 9.3 percent in men 18-49, 43 percent among girls 12-17 and 21 percent among teenagers. So whatever it was had to do heavily with teenagers, and overall women not being interested. Keep in mind this was an hour that heavily featured Ronda Rousey, Bayley, Sasha Banks and Alexa Bliss. The irony is that Bayley and Rousey should be big with teenage girls, but Bayley’s been botched at a level where she’s not going to have any significant appeal and when Rousey comes out, you don’t hear women, it’s men, and the ratings confirm that.

> Dragon Lee noted that he lost noticeable weight while doing the Exatlon reality show because he didn’t have time to eat his usual five meals a day. There was a story going around that Lee was mad because he was at a concert while they were doing the show and wasn’t wearing his mask, so his identity was exposed. Lee said that he knew there would be a problem and somebody would try and take a photo so he switched clothes with someone else to fool photographers. Regarding his leaving the show, he said that he had suffered a broken eardrum wrestling but didn’t think it was that serious. He said that he knew he shouldn’t be going under water with it on the reality show, but he was willing to tough it out and not complain, but it got much worse so that caused him to have to leave the show. He said that wrestling is followed by a lot of people in Mexico, but he’s been surprised how much people come up to him now in public as he’s known everywhere now

> The 11/30 show at Arena Mexico drew 12,000 fans, which was the same sized crowd WWE drew the next night at Arena Ciudad. The audiences were very different. CMLL draws a lot more tourists who go to wrestling as part of the culture with the idea of going out, seeing a show for a very inexpensive price, watching the cool moves like a stage show, and drinking. WWE, since they only came to Mexico once this year and only one show, down from when they used to do multiple dates on multiple tours and were huge on television in Mexico charge a lot more and draw from the higher-class in Mexico City with the idea of seeing one WWE show a year. But a notable difference was that in the past, when WWE came to town, the Arena Mexico crowds for a week or two before and several weeks after would be way down because some of the weekly regulars, with only one chance to see WWE, would pay the big price and then not feel like spending money on wrestling for a few weeks. CMLL brought back legends of the past to counter. Having so many older guys on the show, the action wasn’t good aside from the gimmick of the micros and the two matches involving the regular talent, who kind of stepped it up since they had to carry the show action-wise.

> All Japan is doing a tryout on 3/7 for Pro Wrestling Revolution in San Jose, CA. Jun Akiyama the President of the company, will oversee the tryout. Akiyama will also be doing his first-ever match in the U.S. on 3/9 in San Francisco for the promotion, on a show that will also include Super Crazy, Tajiri and Ultimo Dragon

> FITE TV will be airing an Internet PPV of Wrestle Kingdom for $35. Not sure why you would order that when you could get the same show on New Japan World plus a month subscription for less than $9, but FITE is more convenient for some people to stream than New Japan World. But the show won’t be airing on traditional PPV, where you’d think people who don’t want to stream it would be more likely to order. Last year, because of the Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega match, there were a lot of people who wanted it on U.S. PPV, but at that time New Japan wanted it exclusively for New Japan World, which increased with about 40,000 new subscribers that month, based on that match and the overall show

> Joseph Shabason, a Toronto composer, mentioned on the Kreative Kontrol podcast that he had just finishing doing the musical score for a documentary on Kenny Omega that would be on HBO in 2019. Just to clarify, this would be HBO Canada, not HBO in the U.S. The idea is that there was a Canadian who lives in Winnipeg who is well known in wrestling circles but most Canadians don’t know him who is a major celebrity sports star in Japan. The idea was to also distribute it outside of Canada, but it was made for the Canadian audience
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:18:25 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> For the New Year, Fantastica Mania will be 1/11 to 1/21, followed by the New Beginning tour from 1/26 to 2/11. There will be three major February shows, as they are running at the Hokkaido Sports Center on both 2/2 and 2/3 for New Beginning in Hokkaido and 2/11 for New Beginning in Osaka at the Edion Arena

> The traditional early March anniversary show in Tokyo is not on the schedule for whatever reason. Instead, the plan is for two 47th anniversary shows on 3/2 in Saku and 3/4 in Fukushima. The New Japan Cup tournament starts 3/8 at Korakuen Hall and 3/9 at the Aiichi Gym in Nagoya. It will end with shows on 3/23 and 3/24 in Nagaoka

> I was at a mall on 12/2 going to the movies and went to Hot Topic to check on the NJPW stuff. It was still there but not nearly as prominent as a few months ago. At the store I went to, I didn’t see Young Bucks & Omega Funko Pops which were very prominent a few months ago. New Japan/Bullet Club didn’t have its own special display in the front like it did when it was one of the best selling stuff, nor did anyone that was prominent months ago as the T-shirt business is very fad oriented and changes rapidly.

> There were still plenty of Bullet Club shirts, a few with Young Bucks but most with the GOD’s (Tonga & Loa) and surprisingly, Bullet Club Crown Jewel shirts for Chase Owens of all people, and nobody even knows where he fits in with the new year. Owens seems to be on the outside with the split affiliated with the Yujiro Takahashi & Hangman Page group. There were also Golden Elite shirts, John Cena shirts and Bucks of Jericho and Alpha Club shirts for Jericho. Walking around, the only actual shirts I saw on people walking around were Golden Elite and Bucks of Jericho, and not many, but still, they were in public as a non-wrestling place.

> The death of former President George Herbert Walker Bush on 11/30, at the age of 94, brings up his connections with pro wrestling. Bush was in the U.S. House of Representatives 1966-70 representing Houston and at that period was friends with Houston promoter Paul Boesch. The story that always came up in wrestling was that Bush was the Little League baseball coach of Wahoo McDaniel when both lived in Midland, TX. It was always said within wrestling and was written at points in the Houston program. Bush definitely knew McDaniel when McDaniel was a kid. He attended matches at times when McDaniel was a headliner. Boesch spoke of his friendship with Bush a lot when Bush was Vice President under Ronald Reagan.

> Boesch died shortly after Bush became president in January 1989. Bush invited Ric Flair to the White House and met with Flair at least once as president and very much knew who he was as far as being a big wrestling star and being a fan of his. The only other Bush story I can remember was that when he was Vice President, he met Sam Muchnick through congressman Mel Price, who was a good friend of Muchnick’s. Price introduced Muchnick to Bush as the greatest wrestling promoter of all-time. They had a conversation and then Bush pulled Muchnick aside and said, “I thought Paul Boesch was the greatest wrestling promoter of all-time.” Muchnick was very nice about it and put Boesch over as a great promoter.

> Many years after Boesch’s death, Bruce Prichard and Jim McIngvale, the owner of Gallery Furniture, the old sponsor of Houston Wrestling, produced a television special on Boesch. Bush, shortly after his term as President had expired, agreed to do an interview for it, which really was a hell of a coup to get a man just after his Presidential term to appear on such a show, and he wanted to because he was good friends with Boesch. So the special was put together on Boesch’s life and the last three people shown on the piece, in order, were Bret Hart, who was the WWF champion, Bush, the former President, and Vince McMahon. I always found it hilarious that they put Vince in the position to be the most important guy in the special ahead of a President, even more so because Boesch always raved about Bush as a person and Boesch did not like Vince McMahon at all, and actually would call him the devil to me.

> When Boesch’s autobiography was printed it was cleaned up because people felt his hatred of a few people, Vince more than anyone, was something those in charge of releasing the book didn’t want out, thinking it made him sound bitter or came off badly. I was actually one of only a few people who Boesch personally gave an original copy of his actual book to in the form he wanted it, before he died, although as best as I know, Jim Cornette is the only guy who may have a copy of that book today. Bret was funny also because he never met Paul Boesch as far as I know, although the Harts do have the connection because Boesch was working as a lifeguard on Long Beach in New York after World War II and introduced Stu Hart to his future wife, Helen Smith, on that beach. Of course that has nothing to do with George Bush but it does explain why Bret Hart was featured in a documentary on Boesch

> MLW announced the first of what they are hoping will be regular live shows on Bein Sports. They will be airing one hour live from 8 to 9 p.m. Eastern from the second Miami show on 12/14, which would be head-to-head with New Japan on AXS and one hour before the start of ROH’s Final Battle. The plan is to air three matches, Dragon Lee vs. DJZ, Rush vs. Rich Swann and a middleweight title ladder match with Kotto Brazil, Dezmond Xavier, Andrew Everett and Jason Cade and possibly MJF if he gets cleared. If MJF is in, he’ll be defending his title. If he’s unable to wrestle, it will be for the vacant title. The plan is to do more live specials. If you don’t get Bein Sports, the special will be available on a one-day tape delay on the MLW YouTube page. For a weird tradition, MLW times putting its Friday show up on YouTube on Saturdays at 6:05 p.m. Eastern time, which was the start time of TBS Wrestling during its heyday

> Rush is figured to be heavily pushed in MLW after how big he got over in Chicago, probably as either the franchise star or as close to that as anyone is going to be. Dragon Lee is also scheduled to be featured prominently. The idea is for the most part going forward, MLW will do tapings on Saturdays so they will be available on Fridays at Arena Mexico. The idea is that CMLL will be their main priority but MLW will be their U.S. home, which is interesting only because of the ROH/CMLL/NJPW alliance

> Wale contacted Court Bauer this past week regarding WaleMania over Mania weekend. With MLW on Thursday and Friday, if it happens it would either have to be a joint thing with the Thursday MLW show meaning its form will change, or be on Wednesday. This may be too much of an undertaking to put on three different shows over the weekend. Bauer did note that ticket sales were strong for his second Mania week TV taping on 4/5, which now goes head-to-head with NXT. He only has about 1,000 seats to fill at the Melrose Ballroom and is doing a $15 bottom ticket
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:21:47 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> MLW has signed Ace Romero to a new deal, and restructured the deal Salina de la Renta is on, plus has signed Richard Holliday, a Paul Roma trainee who Bauer said reminded him of Alberto del Rio physically, a well as brought in Oscar Garcia as a graphic designer, who designed the masks of Pentagon, Fenix, Aerostar and Drago. He’ll be working on posters and graphics for big events

> Shane Strickland’s situation is still up in the air regarding WWE. The basic update is Strickland is almost surely winding up in WWE, but not right now. His MLW contract that he negotiated did give him an out clause to go to WWE. However, he still has his Lucha Underground contract that doesn’t allow it at this time, so he’ll be like Ricochet was, basically waiting out his contract time and then probably start up after that

> Marko Stunt’s injury came at a bad time for him since he just started building his name and both WWE and AAA had interest in him

> The situation with Jim Duggan last week where he was in intensive care was somewhat explained by Duggan to TMZ. He said that he was feeling out of shape, felt a pain in his chest and went to the hospital where he was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation, basically an irregular heartbeat that could have been disastrous. He had six to eight people working on him. He didn’t go into detail but we were told the situation was very scary at one point. Duggan said that he knew something was wrong but he was scared to go to the doctor. He said that if you feel like something is wrong, go to the doctor because it may save your life and he noted it may have saved his life

> There was an altercation that involved Chris Jericho on 12/2 after his concert in Regina, Saskatchewan. According to an eye witness who was there watching after the concert, there were a few people waiting outside the Fozzy tour bus. One kid who helped play the guitar wanted to meet Jericho and a guy who was all messed up told the kid he would get him on the bus. People tried to tell him no since he was all messed up. Then he started pounding on the bus door. Eventually he walked away. He came back and somehow talked his way on the bus. People could hear a commotion and then the guy got thrown off the bus. According to one person on the bus, the man was asked to leave by a member of the crew, drum tech Jack Slade, who the guy attacked.

> In the fracas, the guy threw Slade off the bus and Slade landed hard on the ground, breaking his collarbone, and was hospitalized. Jericho then jumped off the bus and said that the guy had just assaulted somebody on the bus. People grabbed the guy and Jericho gave him what was described as a spear and ended up on top of him, punching him in the face. It was broken up and Jericho went back on the bus. Jericho came back out of the bus and got into it with the guy again and Jericho beat on him, and then let him go. Other people tried to hold him until police arrived, but he escaped. He hopped some fences and one report was that he hit a security guy with his car before police apprehended him. The band, as well as the venue was furious the man got away and there were complaints about the lack of any security around.

> Loudwire talked to a different eye witness who said that the guy was on meth and got on the bus looking for autographs. “He was told he couldn’t just come onto the bus and to wait outside as Chris’ family was on the bus. He wouldn’t leave and took a swing at Jack Slade. He pulled Jack off the bus and Jack landed hard and broke his collarbone. Chris chased the guy and tackled him. Then security came and called the cops. The guy ran away and jumped a fence and got caught on some barbed wire. Then he got in his car and hit a security guard. Cops got him and charged him.

> Currently there are no future Lucha Underground tapings announced with the fourth season finished. The last round of funding for the show was to cover seasons three and four. The problem is that they can fund new episodes and El Rey can air them, but there’s no way to seemingly monetize them. If El Rey paid enough for all costs going forward and wanted to continue, that would be one thing. The original owners at this point haven’t committed to going further.

> Chris DeJoseph and Chris Roach, two of the writers, were on TwitWow, and were asked about Chelsea Green being on the show at Reklusa and her signing with WWE before her episodes even aired which seemed strange. They noted that Green was offered a contract, but was apprehensive about signing it and the company decided she was talented enough that they would use her even without her signing a contract. Thus, when she got the WWE offer, she was free to go

> Angel o Demonio has printed up T-shirts and is selling them that play off the brick throwing incident with Cuervo. He also worked on 12/2 in Ciudad Juarez, which would be his first match since the incident. In Mexico, unlike the U.S., the commissions don’t respect each others’ suspensions so he’s suspended in the state of Mexico, but can work anywhere else. It’s not like they weren’t playing it up. The promoters really should be up for Most Disgusting, except obviously that award has been locked up at an all-time level. The poster for the show showed him with bricks, with the idea that guy who threw the brick is bring brought in. That’s the only reason he’s on the show. Needless to say the promotion has been criticized for this move in social media. He also said that he will never work for the PALL promotion that he worked with in that match because they didn’t support him. The level is delusion here is sad
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:24:20 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Will Ospreay’s Dream match with Pac takes place 2/15 at York Hall in London for Revolution Pro Wrestling. That show sold out (1,200 tickets) almost instantly. For the most part it was sold out in 19 minutes, although with people having some tickets in baskets, the actual last ticket was sold in less than two hours. Even with a declining U.K. economy one would expect a first-time match like that which really should be at the Tokyo Dome should be seen as special

> Ilja Dragunov pulled out of a 1/12 date for Pro Wrestling Chaos which the promotion claimed was due to circumstances outside their control. That immediately led to speculation give that’s the date of the first U.K. Takeover show. Dragunov was at the recent WWE tryouts in Germany. But the promotion also said that Dragunov would be working for them in the future

> Cassandro was all over French media this past week to promote a documentary on his life that comes out on 12/5 in France. I’ve seen the trailer some time back. It’s about a gay man who plays an exotico in Mexico and the hardships he faced in getting into the business. Right now Cassandro is not all that well liked among some in Mexico who have complained about him saying he’d help people get American working Visas that as of yet hasn’t happened

> ROH is making a number of moves trying to replenish the ranks with the imminent departures of the Young Bucks, Cody and Adam Page, and perhaps others. The first moves, and many more are being talked about, was signing PCO and Brody King. PCO (Carl Ouellet, who turns 51 in a few weeks), is a major comeback story. He was always an underrated wrestler, having started as Killer Carl Wallace in Puerto Rico before using the name Pierre in WWF as the partner of Jacques Rougeau in the Quebecers tag team. Ouellet was linked with Rougeau through the 90s, when he wrestled for WWF, WCW and briefly with ECW and later in the 00s with TNA. He retired in 2011, but then returned in 2016 and gained a cult following after a match with Walter on Joey Janela’s Spring Break show in New Orleans got one of the biggest responses of the weekend and was filled with crazy moves.

> Ouellet, doing almost a Frankenstein monster gimmick was known in recent months for the length he’d go to get over, but at that age, you can only do so much. King, real name (Nate Blauvelt, 31) is a big agile guy similar to Luke Harper, who has in the past few months because an indie name in PWG, MLW, Defy and AAW among other companies. He had also been training at the New Japan dojo in Los Angeles under Katsuyori Shibata. The problem with Ouellet is the insane style that got him over on this go around has its limitations considering his size and age. A human body at 51 of that size isn’t going to last while trying to do something a guy like Joey Janela does to get over.

> A major component of the deals is that both men have pulled out of all of their indie bookings as of signing this past week. There is heat from indie promoters who had already purchased tickets and advertised them. The usual professional idea is you fulfill your dates, but apparently the ROH deal is for U.S. exclusivity immediately. For MLW, both had to pull out immediately since MLW tapes for television. Plus, no doubt both would be expected to appear on Final Battle and/or the TV the next day, but in theory they could work for the first MLW Miami show on 12/13 and finish up with angles there, but it’s not happening. Ouellet told MLW that he couldn’t turn down the offer, saying it was the best offer he had ever received in his career, which is saying a lot since he got good deals for WWF and WCW, although granted, pay for wrestlers by and large is up from the 90s

> Ouellet told Main Event Radio of his new deal, never acknowledged it was ROH (ROH wanted both King and PCO to debut as surprises at Final Battle), and said, “It’s the best deal in my entire career. Between the opportunities they are giving me, and the money involved, it is my best deal ever. It is only the beginning of a new adventure, a good challenge. I’m a bit stressed but I feed off a good challenge like this. It gives me a huge chance to step up to another level and be able t accomplish that. It is something great.” Ouellet also noted that there is talk about making a movie on his comeback. “At my age, to make a deal like that, it’s a miracle.” He noted he had worked some independent shows in Quebec and then worked a show n Indiana against Ethan Page. Joey Janela was at the show and asked him if he wanted to do Janela’s Spring Break show in New Orleans. Janela asked him to drive, which he said from Montreal to New Orleans was a 40-hour drive. The match with Walter got over huge

> Silas Young did an interview with PW Insider and confirmed last week’s Observer that he was about to sign a three-year deal here. What’s notable is not so much that Young signed, but the idea that ROH is now singing people to three-year deals. The key is that everyone knows that there are going to be a lot of different buyers for talent that need talent out there now, or in the case of WWE, not necessarily need talent, but want to make sure talent isn’t available on the market
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:27:08 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> So the situation is still that Impact is expected to remain on Pop until they can negotiate a deal with a new station. They have talked to a ton of stations. Besides the ones mentioned, they’ve also inquired into Bein. Several prospective wrestling groups have talked to Bein because they are running MLW in prime time, including Jerry Jarrett with his “American Idol” idea of a wrestling show. Court Bauer has said that they have an exclusive in their contract that they can be the only wrestling show on the station in the U.S.

> Vince McMahon sold another 306,000 shares on 11/30, which at the time of sale would be about $22.52 million, which, since his other recent sales have been to help fund the new XFL, that would likely be the case here as well. It could also be just selling for his estate. His recent sales of stock have been for a little below market value so it could have generated slightly less than that. He currently owns 31,887,375 shares which were worth $2.348 billion as of closing time on 12/3. Co-President George Barrrios picked a bad day to deal, as he sold 37,500 share on 11/27, when the price was down to $64.99 so his sale price was $2,437,125. He currently has 382,592 shares which on 12/3 were worth $28,155,166

> WWE surprisingly has flip-flopped the Hall of Fame ceremony and the NXT shows in April in Brooklyn. NXT has been moved from 4/6 to 4/5 at the Barclays Center. This was a late decision because those in the company noted Paul Levesque talking about the NXT show on Saturday before Mania as late as about a week or ten days ago. No reason has been given. There are really only two explanations. One is that if, and this is a big if, Dwayne Johnson has agreed to do the Hall of Fame and he wanted it or would only be available on that day, obviously he is big enough for them to move dates. But if Johnson isn’t part of it, it is that they wanted to avoid the head-to-head with the MSG show.

> Even though New Japan/NJPW sold out instantly (although there are now plenty of resale tickets available for that show), I have little doubt NXT would have sold out head-to-head so it shouldn’t be the fear it wouldn’t draw. I expect NXT to sell out quickly when tickets are put on sale for the show to the public on 12/7. Perhaps there is the feeling that, because of the respective building sizes and setups that more people would be at the MSG show and they didn’t want the news stories about how a rival promotion outdrew them. If anything, unless there is a huge name involved, this is rougher for WWE because the Hall of Fame would get hurt far more than NXT being head-to-head, although a New York Hall of Fame I think is still selling out. If this was another market, I wouldn’t think the same thing.

> But NXT now is a bigger draw it’s better for the Hall of Fame to go unopposed. Also, this is a one-year thing and in 2020 things have to be changed since the Friday show will be a live Smackdown. So NXT or Hall of Fame would be Saturday and the other event would have to be on Thursday. And that hurts the various indie events that were running on Thursdays as the unopposed night. NXT now runs against among other things, a Friday night MLW TV taping that when it was booked , looked like it wasn’t going to have that level of competition

> Cena will be honored with the Muhammad Ali Legacy Award at the Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year ceremony on 12/11 in Los Angeles. The award is for a sports figure who embodies the ideal of sportsmanship, leadership and philanthropy and has used sports as a platform to make the world a better place. “From his unparalleled work with the Make-A-Wish Foundation to his support for a wide range of causes ranging from activism for military families to cancer research, John has made personal outreach and generosity of time and spirit his calling cards,” said Sports Illustrated Executive Editor Stephan Cannella. “He might just be the most charitable person in sports, and his dedication to philanthropy richly reflects the spirit of the Ali Legacy Award.” The award is chosen by Lonnie Ali, Muhammad Ali’s widow, in conjunction with the editorial staff of the magazine.

> The magazine came up with the award first in 2006, for Eunice Kennedy Shriver, the founder of the Special Olympic. It was renamed for Ali in 2015. Previous winners have included Colin Kaepernick last year, as well as Magic Johnson, Jack Nicklaus, Kareem Abdul-Jabber, Jim Brown and Bill Russell. Cena’s work outside the ring and how tirelessly he’s done it while already on a tough schedule during his wrestling career is deserving of this. One can argue that pro wrestling isn’t a sport, and that is a stigma that honoring Cena shows that has been overcome to a degree. The show will air on 12/13 on NBC Sports Network at 9 p.m. Eastern

> O’Neil was honored by Ebony Magazine as one of the Ebony Power 100 This was a well deserved honor as well for his work in raising money for scholarships and other charitable causes in the Tampa area. I don’t mean this as any knock whatsoever on Cena, who is pushed and promoted for his work, because Cena not just does it but did it when it wasn’t being promoted, but for O’Neil, this is even more impressive because it’s not like he’s the biggest star in the company and is getting something as being the person promoted for that spot. He does stuff on his own all the time, most of the time with few if anyone knowing about it

> On 12/4, at the Jimmy V Classic, the WWE presented the V Foundation with a check for $1.2 million which would be the total of fan donations to Connor’s Cure. This was the company’s most successful year in raising oney for the foundation named after Connor Michaels

> The company will be presenting the $100,000 check to the Knoxville Public Safety Foundation which was part of the deal for Glenn Jacobs to work the Australia and Saudi Arabia shows and the televisions building up those shows at the company’s 1/12 Raw house show in the city. The money will go to support first responders and their families after they suffer injury, illness, death or anther life-changing event
Prince - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:29:24 EST ID:cfOXxE22 No.6185222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Will Ospreay’s Dream match with Pac takes place 2/15 at York Hall in London for Revolution Pro Wrestling. That show sold out (1,200 tickets) almost instantly

How hard are WWE gonna try and hit Rev Pro? Never managed to go to one of their shows as I live up north, but it hugely outdraws WWE UK already

>ICW going from 6100 fans to >2000

Surprised they even got that many to be honest, it's stone cold as a promotion these days, never hear anybody talking about it
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:30:28 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> The restrictions on talent under U.K. deals are even more severe than indicated last week. Trent Seven actually lost a loser leaves town match in his own Fight Club Pro promotion. And he had to work it with other guys under contract. So Jordan Devlin & Travis Banks & Dan Moloney beat Seven & Tyler Bate & Pete Dunne in a loser leaves town match out of nowhere. Seven & Bate & Dunne did their goodbyes after the match. Devil did a moonsault from the rafters on that show. There are also limitations now on what guys can do on their indie shows. Walter had a mixed tag match where woman wrestler Meiko Satomura was on the other team. At no point could Walter do any moves to Satomura. To get around it, he kept trying chops and she kept ducking and hitting counters.

> Progress is also bringing a lot of non-UK talent for its 12/9 show in Sheffield for the first time. Walter defends the Progress title against Shigehiro Irie on that show (who is a pure independent, not under contract to any of the companies the NXT U.K. workers are banned from facing). Walter worked an amazing match this past weekend with Masato Tanaka, who is under contract to Zero-1, a company that is not on the WWE banned list. However, Walter did lost his Defiant Internet title to Martin Kirby, who is under contract to World of Sport, so it was still within the window of being able to work with people from the companies the WWE guys aren’t able to work with

> Karen Q, Rachael Ellering and Kushida are on WWE’s radar. Jonah Rock is expected to start in January along with ACH and Trevor Lee.

> Kushida is a name has been talked about for weeks and we’ve been hearing more and more about it. Kushida is the current IWGP jr. champion and faces Taiji Ishimori at the Tokyo Dome. He’s under contract to New Japan until the end of January so we shouldn’t be hearing his name, but WWE has been more forward about trying to get people and not caring about contracts. Basically the feeling is that nobody with the possible exception of Sinclair, and MLW, would take any action against them, and for NJPW, it’s a difficult process based in Japan, but that’s not saying what NJPW would or wouldn’t do.

> Kushida is hardly the only NJPW person WWE is looking at getting right now for all the obvious reasons. This isn’t to say this is a done deal, just a name WWE is earmarking but enough that unlike other New Japan guys who they are after, this is one where the confidence level is at the point where it’s being talked about more prominently, at least one idea has been talked about which would involve him at NXT, as opposed to the obvious guys they want but probably aren’t in the end going to get

> Bliss has not been medically cleared to return according to those in WWE. The story got out that she was from Mark Henry on his radio show. She has started her training in the ring but is limited in what she’s allowed to do

> Dawson took a potato shot from one of the Lucha House Party guys on the 12/3 Raw match and his left eye was badly swollen after

> The next season of Total Bellas, which starts on 1/13 is built around Nikki being back in the dating pool while Brie & Bryan talk about having a second child and having reservations about it because of some mysterious thing Brie won’t tell Bryan about

> It appears that they’ve taken the right punch out of Jax’ arsenal. It’s probably to put more heat on it as “the facebreaker” so it’s major when she does it. In the spots where she would usually throw head punches, she’s changed to body punches and did not head punches at all, except one tease of one that wasn’t delivered

> Another reason WWE U.K. talent may have had to pull out of the 1/7 Fight Club Pro show at Korakuen Hall in Tokyo is because it fell within the seven day window prior to a taping, since the Takeover show is on 1/12 and talent is banned from working anywhere, even for affiliate promotions, less than seven days before tapings

> Thomas Budgen, 33 (Aleister Black) and Thea Trinidad, 27 (Zelina Vega) were recently married

> Riddick Moss (Michael Rallis) a former University of Minnesota football player who had been teaming with Tino Sabbatelli as a heel tag team before both were injured, returned at the 11/30 show in Jacksonville. Moss had been out of action with a torn Achilles tendon suffered in May. He attacked Matt Riddle at the show which led to a match, which Riddle won
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:33:09 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> An idea being talked about for 2019 would be a Queen of the Ring tournament with the main roster women. At this point it’s just an idea thrown around but they are looking for ideas for a second all women’s PPV show next year. With how well the first one was received, one would think they’d want to do at least one a year

> The next tryout camp in Orlando will be 12/12 to 12/15

> Evolve booked an LAX vs. Street Profits match for their tag team titles which the Street Profits hold. The match fell through for the political issues of Impact not wanting its tag team champions to lose on a show that would be streamed to a WWE developmental team that isn’t even being pushed right now in developmental. Gabe Sapolsky wrote that Impact pulled LAX from the show. It had been known ever since the booking was announced that is was likely to fall through for that reason. LAX didn’t understand the politics that goes with being champions and booked themselves with Evolve, not realizing that in its current form, Evolve is now a WWE feeder league since it’s run by Sapolsky who works for WWE.

> Evolve, when told LAX couldn’t lose to the Street Profits, tried to save by doing a three-way tag match one night where presumably the third team would lose to the Street Profits, and a six-man tag where neither LAX member would have to lose, so they could put the two teams in the ring. But Impact didn’t accept those terms and pulled them. Don’t expect any Impact talent on Evolve shows going forward. It’s hard to make this work. Others noted that Evolve kept Darby Allin and Matt Riddle from working MLW once they got television. WWE sent Roderick Strong to make up for LAX falling through

> The WWE added two new people to its Board of Directors on 12/3, neither with any wrestling background, Man Jit Singh and Alan Wexler. Singh, 61, worked for Sony Pictures Entertainment from 2007 until this past March. From 2014 until March, he was the President of Home Entertainment. Before that, he had run Sony’s Multi Screen Media subsidiary in India. Sony owned a number of major networks including Sony Six, so he’s clearly there for his role in helping WWE in the Indian television market.

> As noted last week, WWE is currently negotiating a new television deal in India. The current deal expires at the end of 2019, and the hope is to get a 500 percent increase in rights fees. That’s one of the reasons the stock has started to bounce back. He helped move those stations into the sports direction in both television and digital. Wexler, 55, was CEO of Publicis Sapient since January, a digital transformation platform of Publicis Grouppe, a French company which is a global leader in marketing, communication and digital transformation. He’s been in a number of senior executive positions dating back to 1998

> Tickets went on sale for a Lynch meet and greet over Royal Rumble weekend in Phoenix and they sold out in 90 minutes

> The defendants in the Riki Paul Johnson lawsuit against WWE, Richard & Ashley Fleihr (Ric & Charlotte) and author Brian Shields regarding defamation of character in the book “Second Nature” asked for and received a motion to delay having to answer the charges brought by Johnson in the lawsuit until 1/18. Johnson mostly claimed that his ex-wife Ashley had lied in the book claiming that his drug use had cost him two jobs and that he was sterile, the latter being a key point since he claimed that since they broke up he has fathered children, and also claimed her description of his conduct during an arrest (she ended up arrested by police after an altercation between her husband and her father) was not accurate and that police reports and footage would be able to prove that

> WWE gave Johnny Saint a new contract that prohibits him from doing seminars with other companies. He had agreed to do a seminar for Full Tilt Wrestling next month in New Castle. The promotion said that everyone had approved it but when Saint got his new WWE contract, it no longer allowed him to do it and he had to cancel. Then, for whatever reason, when this got out, WWE allowed Saint to do the seminar

> Evidently one of the reasons WWE is very strict on men getting any physical moves in on women, besides how it would play to a general public audience and it really isn’t worth it for them to do it, is that that was a promise to Mattel years ago when the deal was first made that they would never portray men physically overpowering women
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:34:52 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> WWE held tryouts this past week in Santiago, Chile. There were 50 people in all, and WWE printed a few names and we have several others. They brought in athletes from all over South America, as well as Mexico and Puerto Rico. They brought in pro wrestlers, as well as people from amateur wrestling, Muay Thai, judo, taekwondo, capoeira (a Brazilian dance form of street fighting), volleyball, football and powerlifting. The coaching staff brought in were Matt Bloom, Sara Stock (Sarita in TNA), Robbie Brookside, as well as NXT wrestlers Adrian Jaoude, Cezar Bononi and Taynara Conti from Brazil and Raul Mendoza from Mexico.

> The biggest name listed in the tryout was Ricky Marvin, 38, who years back was one of the best wrestlers in the world while working for Pro Wrestling NOAH during its glory period more than a decade ago. A lot of people in Mexico were having fun with photos and the idea of Mendoza training Marvin, since Marvin was Mendoza’s trainer.

> Other names included Tayane Porfirio de Araujo, a 23-year-old who was the 2017 and 2018 world champion in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and had many matches against UFC star Mackenzie Dern; Alejandro Saez, who did the cruiserweight classic and has worked in NOAH; Ariel Levy, a national pro wrestling champion in Chile; Patricia Maria Fontes Santos, 28, a ballerina who won No Gi world championships in submission wrestling in 2015, 2016 and 2017 at 118 pounds; Stephanie Vaquer from Chile who moved t Mexico to study pro wrestling; Agustin Cienfuegos, who wrestles in Chile and Ecuador; Reptil, who wrestles in Peru; Di Franceso Bassi, from Chile; Juan Pecador of Chile;

> Cielo Drako of Costa Rica; Benjamin Stolo of Argentina; Django of Argentina; Ariki Toa of Chile; Ary Bradford of Chile and Costa Rica; Donovan Dongo of Surinam; Atemista of Chile; Limit of Chile; Rusher from Brazil; Vitor Boer of Brazil; Max Miller of Brazil; Rurik Jr. of Brazil; Acce of Brazil; Matths Alves of Brazil; Mansilla of Peru; Axl of Peru; Kaiser of Peru, who has done some tours of Pro Wrestling NOAH; Lady Maravilla of AAA; Dragon Bane, an 18-year-old flyer with a lot of potential from IWRG; Keyra of AAA, Crash and was on the Mexico City tapings for Impact; Lady Maravilla of AAA; Vanilla Vargas from AAA who came from Puerto Rico and Angel Fashion, a veteran from Puerto Rico

> They also announced a tryout in March in Mumbai, India, looking at both pro wrestlers and other athletes from the area

> The stock closed at $71.52 per share on 12/4 (the market was closed on12/5) leaving the company with a $5.583 billion market value. It was up based on JP Morgan increasing its target for the stock from $84 to $87 per share

> The top ten most-watched shows on the WWE Network this past week were: 1. The Edge & Christian show on 12/3; 2. NXT on 11/28; 3. Starrcade 2018; 4. Survivor Series 2018; 5. Edge & Christian show week one; 6. NXT U.K. from 11/28 (the episode with Rhea Ripley vs. Toni Storm); 7. NXT Takeover War Games; 8. Mixed Match Challenge from 11/27; 9. WWE 365 A.J. Styles; 10. NXT U.K. from 11/28 (the episode with Pete Dunne vs. Jordan Devlin). A few notes is that even though first week viewing of the Takeover actually beat Survivor Series, and even with Takeover getting the better reviews, Survivor Series is now ahead in views.

> The U.K. show with Ripley vs. Storm in the finals of the tournament to crown a women’s champion finished several spots above the episode headlined by the much-talked about Dunne vs. Devlin title defense when both were released the same day. 205 Live is pretty much dead, down to 16th place. Originally it picked up with the move to Wednesday, but with NXT and two U.K. shows every week released that day, it’s the one people are skipping. It finished behind a number of NWO specials that they were pushing this past week and an Edge & Christian vs. Hardys vs. Dudleys TLC matches that was released as one of Becky Lynch’s all-time favorite matches
Repo Man - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:36:31 EST ID:FO9lKfKL No.6185230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Vince McMahon officially announced the start of the new XFL on February 8 and 9, 2020, which would be the week after that year’s Super Bowl.

> Not a lot of specifics were announced in the company’s second press conference, where, once again, they pushed that this league would be completely different from the original, with the concentration on a better brand of football as opposed to theatrics, shorter games, a more positive fan experience and basically the exact opposite of McMahon’s vision and current pro wrestling product.

> The similarity is that McMahon will own all eight teams, and will appoint eight Team Presidents and eight General Manager/coaches. They are also looking at signing Impact players and quarterbacks in 2019, and try to fill the rosters with players cut from NFL teams before and during the 2019 season, as well as do localized tryouts and have a draft as well.

> No television or media deals were announced but Luck said they’ve had deep and meaningful conversations. He said he’s confident the games will be available on multiple platforms.

> As noted before, the success or failure of this league is not about whether the games draw live. Television ratings will determine the fate to a degree, but it’s more the value those in television and digital media place on the league and how much they are willing to pay for rights.

> The league will not be successful based on ticket sales, whether good or bad, or merchandise. Either it gets enough in media rights to cover costs, or it’s a loser. McMahon is willing to earmark well over $100 million to keep the league alive to build a reputation to where it can garner the media rights revenue to be able to stay alive. That is the entire game here. The gamble is whether the increased revenue for live sports programming will both continue, and trickle down to a secondary spring football league.

> The big unspoken battle is between this group and Charlie Ebersol’s AAF, which starts its season on 2/9, giving them a one-year jump. Ebersol is the son of Dick Ebersol, McMahon’s partner in the original XFL, and the person wh put together the ESPN documentary on the original XFL that left both Charlie and McMahon wanting to both start a spring football league.

> They also have a deal for weekly TV coverage on CBS Sports Network. They are expected to debut with a game the first weekend on CBS, and CBS would also televise the championship game. The AAF, like the XFL, will have a ten week regular season and two weeks of playoffs. They will have eight teams with 50-man rosters.

> The AAF and XFL will not compete in the same markets. Both leagues have pushed the idea of making moves to speed up games and lessen injuries.

> The XFL will also have eight teams, with 45 man active rosters and seven practice team members.

> Oliver Luck, who McMahon hired to run the league, pushed that they are not trying to be competitive with the NFL, but would be looking to compliment them.

> What will be interesting with both leagues is how contracts work. It is expected that both league contracts would prohibit jumping to the other league or the Canadian Football League, but how it categorizes the NFL will be a major key.

> If the contracts don’t allow outs for the NFL, that means any players who believe they can still make the NFL would not be as apt to sign. But if they do allow outs, that means the best players each season would leave after the season for the higher-paying NFL.

> While the original XFL paid most players in the range of $50,000 for a season, this league is looking for name players who would earn in excess of $250,000. However, McMahon has said before that they will not hire anyone with a criminal conviction, nor allow any displays such as kneeling during the national anthem, which some blamed for the decline in NFL ratings last season, which seems not to have much effect with the increase in numbers this season.

> What’s most interesting is that, no matter how this all goes down, essentially the AAF and XFL will be Impact and Ring of Honor, and with McMahon looking at faster paced and more serious, he’s definitely looking at being Ring of Honor. Whether he can be happy with that role is a big question, as he’s always been WWE in his world.

> Luck also announced testing for PEDs.

> The XFL is going after bigger markets and playing in major stadiums, with teams based at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ (which will be called the New York team), Audi Field in Washington, DC (the 20,000 seat soccer stadium), The StubHub Center in Carson, CA (which will be called the Los Angeles team), TDECU Stadium in Houston (University of Houston’s stadium), The Dome in St. Louis,. Century Link Field in Seattle, Globe Life Park in Arlington, TX (Dallas team) and Raymond James Stadium in Tampa.

> Team names were not announced.

> The AAF previously announced eight teams, the Atlanta Legends, Birmingham Iron, Orlando Apollos, Memphis Express, Arizona Hotshots, Salt Lake City Stallions, San Antonio Commanders and San Diego Fleet, pushing that season tickets start at $75,which would be for five home games.
Tyson Dux - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 08:46:18 EST ID:qmqmGzQi No.6185238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> They also announced a tryout in March in Mumbai, India, looking at both pro wrestlers and other athletes from the area

Wonder if any of the lads from Aangar Tv will try out?!
Claudio Castagnoli - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 09:07:00 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6185250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Regarding his leaving the show, he said that he had suffered a broken eardrum wrestling
Im fairly sure the word is ruptured, Dave.

>He said that he knew he shouldn’t be going under water with it on the reality show, but he was willing to tough it out and not complain
"Fuck hearing, who needs that shit, reality show is much more important"
Tyson Dux - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 09:30:30 EST ID:4HkBL4Ou No.6185258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If Kushida has any self respect he would not sign with WWE.
Archibald Peck - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:01:27 EST ID:6revDBbb No.6185266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> As far as the first hour went compared to the prior week, it was down 17.2 percent in women 18-49, 9.3 percent in men 18-49, 43 percent among girls 12-17 and 21 percent among teenagers. So whatever it was had to do heavily with teenagers, and overall women not being interested.

Women don't like to see other women being successful. It's just a fucking fact.
David Hart Smith - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:14:56 EST ID:ZbIEgRL4 No.6185272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> On 12/4, at the Jimmy V Classic, the WWE presented the V Foundation with a check for $1.2 million which would be the total of fan donations to Connor’s Cure. This was the company’s most successful year in raising oney for the foundation named after Connor Michaels

I thought his name was Michalek or something?
Tyson Dux - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:29:14 EST ID:4HkBL4Ou No.6185282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Meltzer fucked up
Hajime Ohara - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:36:47 EST ID:juN2pGPK No.6185285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Internalized misogony
Mad Man Pondo - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:00:36 EST ID:cvO/Rhl/ No.6185300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>They also announced a tryout in March in Mumbai, India, looking at both pro wrestlers and other athletes from the area

I hope the Wrestling reloaded guys have been alerted
Genichiro Tenryu - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:23:02 EST ID:dVvsHXyz No.6185306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The top ten most-watched shows on the WWE Network this past week were: 1. The Edge & Christian show on 12/3; 2. NXT on 11/28; 3. Starrcade 2018; 4. Survivor Series 2018; 5. Edge & Christian show week one; 6. NXT U.K. from 11/28 (the episode with Rhea Ripley vs. Toni Storm); 7. NXT Takeover War Games; 8. Mixed Match Challenge from 11/27; 9. WWE 365 A.J. Styles; 10. NXT U.K. from 11/28

>1. The Edge & Christian show on 12/3
Crossbones - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:30:14 EST ID:3ayx20MU No.6185311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>1. The Edge & Christian show on 12/3
El Hijo Del Tirantes - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:33:10 EST ID:dfDHoDrG No.6185313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So even on the network, people is not watching RAW?
Howard Finkel - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:39:57 EST ID:wOD9AleR No.6185317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Walter had a mixed tag match where woman wrestler Meiko Satomura was on the other team. At no point could Walter do any moves to Satomura.

Claudio Castagnoli - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:41:07 EST ID:mCo62Zdl No.6185318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
RAW isnt on the network until like a month after or some shit.
David Arquette - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:46:12 EST ID:y2u4pFA4 No.6185319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Meiko is more powerful than Walter in kayfabe.
William Regal - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 12:20:59 EST ID:i7KfAH6c No.6185346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> The restrictions on talent under U.K. deals are even more severe than indicated last week. Trent Seven actually lost a loser leaves town match in his own Fight Club Pro promotion.

This makes me laugh
Arnold Skaaland - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 12:25:25 EST ID:sXSleutt No.6185349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Raw isn’t on the network, fucking smarks.
Typhoon - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 13:26:49 EST ID:TqEFPXZt No.6185377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
205 roster on suicide watch
calm down, baby.
Tokyo Magnum - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 13:32:50 EST ID:rgxBz+Rx No.6185383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Walter had a mixed tag match where woman wrestler Meiko Satomura was on the other team. At no point could Walter do any moves to Satomura.

womyn are just as great as men but you better not touch them -steph.
Allison Wonderland - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 13:51:39 EST ID:uxjPvNhw No.6185395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jerry Sags - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:09:27 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6185403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's an edict from Mattel, not Steph, but whatever gets you angry, I guess.
Jerry Sags - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:11:53 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6185407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Donovan Dongo of Surinam
>Donovan Dongo
Ted Turner - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 15:17:54 EST ID:ArqqhR/V No.6185444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tamina - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 15:23:15 EST ID:UAenhmTK No.6185446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He dislikes smoke.
Beth Phoenix - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 19:17:40 EST ID:bMIOqUtD No.6185544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bastion Booger - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 23:39:14 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6185618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Justin Credible got arrested again
Ivory - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 03:14:40 EST ID:NUcNM2GP No.6185660 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's Rakesh Kumar Orton's time

Generalissimo Takada - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 03:29:01 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6185663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pretty sure RKO doesn't work for Angaar TV anymore
Gao Jingjia - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 05:26:27 EST ID:Nzf+M2q3 No.6185677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
was that the thic boy because he could legit be a wrestler
Ezekiel Jackson - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 05:35:02 EST ID:C8vnQ5HH No.6185680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, he went to Poopsa Ontheground.
Bruno Sammartino - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 06:02:06 EST ID:+4A6BfrY No.6185698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Onyx - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 06:08:25 EST ID:DoxhIGYh No.6185701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The Rock - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 08:48:20 EST ID:JQreDIQ1 No.6185737 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Nah man, it's ROHIT'S TIME
The Rock - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 08:48:20 EST ID:JQreDIQ1 No.6185738 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Nah man, it's ROHIT'S TIME
Generalissimo Takada - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 09:34:26 EST ID:M1ahJWky No.6185756 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Am I missing the joke here?
Rick Steiner - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 09:45:54 EST ID:XnVuBSg7 No.6185763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cody Rhodes - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:14:49 EST ID:sZIj7buj No.6185777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Vince McMahon officially announced the start of the new XFL on February 8 and 9, 2020, which would be the week after that year’s Super Bowl.

The Boogeyman - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:21:10 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6185781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I give it one year before it becomes the feeder league for the CFL.
Joey Ryan - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:29:34 EST ID:IL8BargO No.6185783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Would that be a feeder system where xfl is thw minor league and the best players eventually get sent up to thw cfl? Sorry not too familiar with football
Roxy Astor - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:34:40 EST ID:N5ewRDhl No.6185786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you all think Vince is going to buy a superbowl ad to show off the XFL or will he cheap out like usual
The Boogeyman - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:35:31 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6185787 Ignore Report Quick Reply

American football teams don't have feeder leagues like the MLB (A/AA/AAA ball) and the NBA (G-League) so i'm saying the XFL is going to be nothing but undraftees/3rd stringers who got no playing time/past-prime players who still want to go, but can't go at a NFL level.

Odds are they're going to be slightly better than college ball, but worse than every other top level football league.
Booker T - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 12:06:32 EST ID:App5w9hk No.6185854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
None of these NFL-lite organizations will succeed. Global economic policies only favor those with huge monetary war chests and established brands. The wealth distribution is completely out of whack.

The CFL was actually a viable competitor to the NFL for a long time with respect to player salaries when global finance wasn't such a clusterfuck. They could attract high level talent because the salaries were comparable to what the NFL offered from the 1950s up until the 1980s. The USFL had big money behind it as well. Future pro football hall of fame inductees like Reggie White and Steve Young began their careers on USFL teams.

The reasons for USFL's death are myriad and well documented, but they did well for an upstart football league in their short history because of the level of talent they attracted. The CFL has a long history, so the communities in which they play have a reason to get emotionally invested despite a permanent downgrade in talent.

The XFL or AAF will only be successful if they can secure investment which will allow them to pay top tier college football talent at an amount greater than what the NFL rookie pay scale offers to their first round draft picks. The novelty of a new football league will wear off eventually. The UFL (different from USFL) suffered this fate.

Unless they can find some mega billionaire investor to bankroll high player salaries, it's all fucked.
Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 12:21:51 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6185861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is Arena Football even still a thing?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 12:22:40 EST ID:IxeXw9yD No.6185862 Report Quick Reply
Yes it is but the AFL only has 4 teams now.
The Boogeyman - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 12:22:40 EST ID:LUMg+nxK No.6185863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It is.
Hikaru Shida - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 12:35:16 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6185869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Several prospective wrestling groups have talked to Bein because they are running MLW... including Jerry Jarrett with his “American Idol” idea of a wrestling show.

That is going to be worse than that Hulk Hogan thing.
Roxy Astor - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 12:38:25 EST ID:N5ewRDhl No.6185873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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wait a minute this sounds familiar
Golga - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 12:45:39 EST ID:eDrZOnwH No.6185877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Jerry Jarrett with his “American Idol” idea of a wrestling show
Jesus Christ, Jerry Jarrett is still around? Of course he thinks "American Idol" is a new concept and not completely done to death.

I could see a wrestling version of The Voice working (with 3-4 wrestlers picking a team and mentoring them), but idk how the competition shit would play into it. I guess eliminations are all centered around fan voting? Even then, that's basically the original concept of NXT.
Marc Mero - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 15:35:55 EST ID:9PpOH2E3 No.6185929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>> Marko Stunt’s injury came at a bad time for him since he just started building his name and both
> WWE had interest in him

i like Marko a lot but this is the epitome of WWE signing people so toher companies cant have them. He's been a national name for less than 6 months and what kind of future would he EVER have in WWE aside from jobber fodder
Vince Russo - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 15:47:11 EST ID:nvb31/+n No.6185933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The problem with American Idol or Voice type shit, is no matter what, fans voting for shit is stupid because marks have no idea what the fuck goes into being a pro wrestler.

And how do you compete? By training? Cool, do that at an actual fucking school and be a pro wrestler. Jesus christ.
Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 16:27:53 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6185948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Dawson took a potato shot from one of the Lucha House Party guys on the 12/3 Raw match and his left eye was badly swollen after
The Commandant - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 16:41:25 EST ID:3UTfJ5ns No.6185951 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Revival members injured for what is now the 3rd time in a row

Shit like this is why Vince is never giving them the Tag Championships and why they're bottom on the card on Raw but they were the #1 Tag Team in NXT


You don't need Raw.
Norman Smiley - Fri, 07 Dec 2018 17:14:54 EST ID:yf09eetF No.6185966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>As per the B&V Show, we've missed out on the Chop & Roll Express vs Marko Stunt and BASED PCO

Shocker - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 01:12:21 EST ID:U28QmYT+ No.6186070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>marks have no idea what the fuck goes into being a pro wrestler.
Yeah. Vince agrees. So while the marks were cheering for a terrible wrestler like Daniel Bryan, he pushed a good wrestler Roman reigns instead.

Can you believe all those marks spending all that money on Daniels Bryan merch and going to see him at house shows?
Starman - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 02:48:20 EST ID:30YOe064 No.6186085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Remember when Patrick Clark got voted off Tough Enough by a panel of wrestlers before going on to become one of the most enjoyable acts from NXT in recent memory?

Good times.
Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 05:16:46 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6186096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not only that, he became that enjoyable act in part by doing multiple "fuck you" spots aimed at the later-proven-racist Tough Enough judge who jerked Clark around the most.
Jay Lethal - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 06:57:34 EST ID:5Cins73J No.6186112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Most will see those "fuck you" spots as homage or rip offs. His fuck you spots were also worse than Hogan's usual stuff, making him look like even more of a clown that can't let it go. Hogan has massive money from all of that scandal and even lives rent free in Velveteen Meme's head.
ODB - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 07:21:10 EST ID:b3CIN9SS No.6186114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hogan's take home from all that wasn't all it was cracked up to be otherwise he wouldn't have spent all that time crying and sniffing WWE's asshole trying to get that paycheck back.
Alex Koslov - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 07:26:39 EST ID:sUDN3TGL No.6186116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hogan @ed him begging for a rub and Dream shot him down, but sure, keep up your tradition of delusional mis-takes
Akira Tozawa - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 07:11:47 EST ID:0iw/ZeFq No.6187340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh man this Meltzer rant is a must hear.
Rachel Summerlyn - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 07:36:15 EST ID:a2J/hig0 No.6187345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can you post it?
She Nay Nay - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:37:01 EST ID:lIq+vOMm No.6187359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LMAO, Metzer is having a legit meltdown over the absurd stupidity of having your top babyface bury your maian show only to book the main show like always anyway
Machete - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:47:16 EST ID:3NTV2g3P No.6187362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't help but feel bad for the wrestlers, who get SO upset when people criticize them for the poor product, when they're working hard...

… And when the show actually acknowledges that it's been terrible, WWE tries to pin it on a wrestler.

What a show.
Barry Windham - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:48:19 EST ID:+0CryfDy No.6187363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Smark twitter is losing it over WOR. Where is the link?
Rachel Summerlyn - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:00:45 EST ID:a2J/hig0 No.6187365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Real dad is dragging ass.
She Nay Nay - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:07:17 EST ID:lIq+vOMm No.6187366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's the link
Mike Adamle - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:16:45 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6187368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
based dave destroying the wannabe smart asses
Natalya - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:38:31 EST ID:watN+9y7 No.6187380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The lengths people will go to defend and suck off hogan is embarrassing if not depressing. It's like this weird dude i worked with who was a wrestling "fan" who no lie exclusively watched hogan matches it wasnt even like he was an 80s wrestling fan if it was warrior vs macho he'd shake his head and refused to watch it was hogan and hogan only that he cared about. I remember he'd blow a majority of his paycheck on hogan merch, it might sound like he wasnt all there but he was suprisingly normal in most other settings. Not sure if he or the classmate that exclusively watches 2004-2008 wwe is the weirdest wrestling fan I've met.
Gavin Loudspeaker - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:49:45 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6187384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the linkitude era is over
you now have to register to get your piracy
MVP - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:24:06 EST ID:uxjPvNhw No.6187394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know how someone can stand listening to Meltz talk for longer than five minutes. He seriously does not have a voice for radio.
Mike Adamle - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:26:43 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6187396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got a good laugh out of him saying if they add anymore commercial breaks to RAW he'll end up in the over 60s Mr Olympia with all the weights he'd end up doing.
Jackie Gayda - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:28:05 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6187397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
By not being an autist, that's how
Jesse Neal - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:07:30 EST ID:ECPVV2LS No.6187408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I don’t like it why doesn’t everyone else not like it
I’m sorry you’re like this
MVP - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:23:59 EST ID:uxjPvNhw No.6187416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not saying you're wrong for enjoying listening to an hour daily of incoherent stuttering from someone who can't form a complete logical thought to save their life, but you do you man.
Jackie Gayda - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:51:38 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6187427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>incoherent stuttering from someone who can't form a complete logical thought to save their life
see, this is why Jesse Neal RNG was saying he's sorry you're like this
You're exaggerating in a way that sounds like you're an overly sensitive retard. People stutter in the offline, you do know this, right?
Mike Adamle - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:59:47 EST ID:ludzp4qn No.6187431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ya mad af tbh fam
Jim Powers - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:20:48 EST ID:wq2/B2X1 No.6187444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I don’t like this guy. Why aren’t the rest of you not liking him as I am? Ya bunch of fags.
Imagine being this pathetic.
Mister ZERO - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:21:21 EST ID:3ayx20MU No.6187478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey I dunno if you guys knew this yet or not but the New Years edition of Smackdown is being taped the Saturday before (assuming they are letting everyone have off for the holiday).

Anyways it's where I live an the commercial they aired during Raw last night said Cena is going to be on Miz TV. I dunno why that would be a 'dark' segment but just fyi.
El Zorro - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:36:13 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6187484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> I was at a mall on 12/2 going to the movies and went to Hot Topic to check on the NJPW stuff. It was still there but not nearly as prominent as a few months ago. At the store I went to, I didn’t see Young Bucks & Omega Funko Pops which were very prominent a few months ago. New Japan/Bullet Club didn’t have its own special display in the front like it did when it was one of the best selling stuff, nor did anyone that was prominent months ago as the T-shirt business is very fad oriented and changes rapidly.

lmao! This made me laugh. The idea of Meltzer in Hot Topic looking at Funko Pops is hilarious.
Bertha Faye - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:38:33 EST ID:bWZ+YR1t No.6187485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's right though. If I see a shirt I like there I usually end up getting it since I know it probably won't be there next time. Things go really quick. Especially shirts in normal, non super fatass sizes.
Adam Bomb - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:11:24 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6187496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Test wasn't eating pizza before he died, he was eating my asshole out.
Adam Bomb - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:14:37 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6187497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
GODDAMNIT this was meant for RNG thread I fucked up again
Ivan Koloff - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:01:45 EST ID:6VrC0Wv6 No.6187520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What a scoop
Tony Chimel - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:19:00 EST ID:a2J/hig0 No.6187588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bombshell news.
Jetta - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:21:53 EST ID:lOxl+ROP No.6187591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fire Ant - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:28:04 EST ID:uxjPvNhw No.6187600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
big if true
Earthquake - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:28:55 EST ID:OCpI2Gwn No.6187602 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Hour 1: 2.34 million
>Hour 2: 2.18 million
>Hour 3: 2.05 million

>Average: 2.19 million

This is DOWN from last week's making it a new ALL TIME LOW.

Last weeks for comparison:

>Hour 1: 2.262 million
>Hour 2: 2.399 million
>Hour 3: 2.196 million

>Average: 2.285 million
Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:31:18 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6187604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a lady who's sure
All that glitters is gold
And she's buying some RECORD LOW RATINGS
Kurt Angle - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:31:58 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6187605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tony Chimel - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:35:17 EST ID:a2J/hig0 No.6187606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What did you and your buddy Mark watch instead?
Gorgeous George - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:37:36 EST ID:pxpw1qDx No.6187608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
CMLL was fucking great.
You missed out, drone.
Kurt Angle - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:41:47 EST ID:ftnXTqS0 No.6187614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Saw the recent MLW Fusion.
Rush is the fucking best
Rikidozan - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:46:57 EST ID:bebQqTbh No.6187619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
MLW, Impact, PWG, LU, CMLL, AAA, NJPW, retro shows, and much more.
Tony Chimel - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:47:20 EST ID:a2J/hig0 No.6187620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Relax I was just making fun of something HHH said.
Call-Me-Kevin - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:49:11 EST ID:odxjTNom No.6187622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>he thought saying this made him sound cool
Call-Me-Kevin - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:50:15 EST ID:odxjTNom No.6187624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Perry Saturns Hairpiece !!2yqTh/Za - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:24:42 EST ID:0HHuaCWE No.6187727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Meltzer Internet Defense Force is out in number I see.

Which part of MVP's post is wrong?
Additional_Armies !G5HwlahLM2 - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:45:39 EST ID:YILbGvXF No.6187904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bring back the attitude era? thumbs up if you agree?
no! RAW and Nitro are the worst television shows of all time. thumbs down, disagree, its Retro!
Mil M‡scaras - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:09:54 EST ID:DQyWf1wt No.6187913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this video gets more and more funny everytime
Dean Malenko - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:18:17 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6187916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>anyone that disagrees with dumb criticism is part of a defense force
Good job living up to the stereotype of trigfaggots being retarded
Jim Powers - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 14:02:49 EST ID:wq2/B2X1 No.6187965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What part of MVP’s post isn’t an opinion?

Consequences Creed - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 14:28:35 EST ID:K20kw6yS No.6187980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thank you
Egotistico Fantastico - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 14:49:47 EST ID:dikhChIW No.6187990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>all those comments saying this was great

I know, I know,
>reading youtube comments
P.N. News - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:35:40 EST ID:G9cW5MRV No.6188013 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The word you're looking for is funnier.
Marty Jannetty - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:15:46 EST ID:iLe2GkB4 No.6188030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess that dude and his friend Mark really stopped watching after all.
Azreal - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 19:41:08 EST ID:Rl4gH+Yr No.6188121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just letting people know that the next Dirt Sheet Thread may be up at a later time than usual tomorrow. It'll be posted when it's posted, so please be patient.
Chiva III - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 19:51:27 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6188125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
expect nobody to be patient.
Hajime Ohara - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 19:58:19 EST ID:N7stDOR2 No.6188127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
meltzer is the world's biggest will ospreay fan
it's getting tiresome
Chiva III - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 20:08:17 EST ID:aM6KFv9S No.6188132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those WhatCulture or Defiant or Cultaholic dudes have massive boners for him too. People seem to either jizz their pants about Ospreay or hate him with a passion.

Personally I find his face annoying which is a weird thing to complain about but it makes it hard for me to get into what he is doing because I find his face is faking enthusiasm or something. Kinda like when Mustafa Ali and Cedric attempted to be like HBK during this years Mania and it just came off as phony and cringey. Ospreay does some phenomenal stuff but it never brings me in and I never feel it. I dunno...I can't seem to put my finger on it. It's not just because he flips.
Saba Simba - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:36:53 EST ID:9PpOH2E3 No.6188176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i like will ospreay but i enjoy needlessly pointless flips
Luther Reigns - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:46:15 EST ID:u2X526kj No.6188180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I also hate when people have opinions on things
Mr. Anderson - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:56:46 EST ID:5Cins73J No.6188185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nothing wrong with Dave's opinions, the problem is that so many people place them on a pedestal.
Paul Heyman - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:56:50 EST ID:6lubTvqQ No.6188186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ospreay is really good, but even then Meltzer has criticized him for taking unnecessary risks.
Allison Wonderland - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:19:39 EST ID:cr0kvadq No.6188202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>mfw I just realized Vince is purposely killing his company so when Roman comes back they can make a Network documentary on how Roman saved the company
Mae Young - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:21:16 EST ID:rgxBz+Rx No.6188204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
liking ospreay is a legitimately wrong opinion.
Player Dos - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:46:19 EST ID:cMAKDCuK No.6188214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>show friends NJPW
>they all love Ospreay

Maybe you're the ones that are wrong
Gree Ant - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:54:51 EST ID:IMBgJsu1 No.6188217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you retarded?
Shad Gaspard - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 01:08:33 EST ID:sUFiWdXC No.6188235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hogan's suing the guy who leaked the video to gawker and everyone in between now, brother! Due in court in 2020, dude.

>Past several months, Hogan's attorneys reviewed thousands of pages of defendants Mike Calta's and Matthew Loyd's cell phone and text records. Cox Radio also produced numerous "confidential" documents.

>According to Tampa Police, Loyd stole the DVDs from the second floor of Bubba's new studio

>Based on those records, Hogan's attorneys have asked a judge to bring Calta's agent, Tony Burton, and the company he works for, Don Buchwald & Associates, back into the lawsuit.

>Evidence showed that Calta sent Burton a 'DVD details' email in 2012, Burton e-mailed Gawker, that he had "a client that has a very significant DVD they want to send you." Burton's "client" was Calta.

>A Hogan lawsuit court hearing will be held on Thursday, the trial is currently scheduled for 2020.
Elix Skipper - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 01:16:54 EST ID:T5Ycresu No.6188237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hulkamania still running wild Jack
Chase Owens - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 03:44:16 EST ID:vy5Ogk2D No.6188246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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WWE Chairman & CEO Vince McMahon and WWE's Executive Vice President of Talent, Live Events and Creative Triple H have very different ideas on what should be the Universal Championship match at next year's WrestleMania, according to Give Me Sport.

McMahon's plan sees Braun Strowman defeating Brock Lesnar for the title at the Royal Rumble, leading to a WrestleMania match between Strowman and Drew McIntyre, which Vince allegedly wants McIntyre to win and leave 'Mania as champion.

HHH, on the other hand, would prefer Lesnar to retain the championship until WrestleMania, where he would face and lose to the incredibly popular Seth Rollins.

Both ideas suggest an interesting next few months in WWE; for McMahon's plan to come to fruition Strowman would return at this Sunday's TLC pay-per-view, defeat Baron Corbin to earn himself a match at the Rumble against The Beast, and presumably for the Scottish Psychopath McIntyre to win the men's Royal Rumble match to lead to their showdown at 'Mania.

Triple H's plan, whilst seemingly more straightforward, would require Rollins to drop the Intercontinental Championship, and casts doubt on Lesnar's projected return to UFC.
Chessman - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 04:09:05 EST ID:1rNEUR+B No.6188247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>according to Give Me Sport.
Variety Hold No.1 !PJeZ6XZKTM - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 05:29:07 EST ID:Vh1GLAUt No.6188259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's bullshit, and I don't believe it.

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