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Worst Reign of Terror: Triple H ('02-'05) or Jeff Jarett ('02-'06)?

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- Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:05:49 EST 8WSCCqMe No.6456403
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what was a more insufferable World Title run
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Chase Owens - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:07:42 EST T27T75Qv No.6456405 Reply
Jarrett by far.
At least Triple H had Evolution and eventually put over a massive star in Batista.
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Bison Smith - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:18:39 EST KDNorg+J No.6456408 Reply
Haitch's reign of terror was the absolute worst thing in all of wrestling at the time.
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Kanyon - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:23:59 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6456409 Reply
Jarrett didn't even have the title in 2002.
Also HHH had more bullshit with the title on SD in 2008/2009 and fucked with Orton again

Then somehow found a way to get the title back in 2016!

>>6456405
Jarrett put over AJ Styles in 2003, 2004 and 2005. Then later put over Christian and Sting (and Rhino to a lesser extent).

The only guy whose momentum got derailed by Jarrett was Monty Brown and while that sucks it's nowhere in the same ballpark as the BS HHH pulled with Booker T, RVD, Kane and babyface Orton
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Bison Smith - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:26:48 EST KDNorg+J No.6456410 Reply
>>6456409
Samoa Joe should have been the one to dethrone Jarrett in 06. Not Sting.
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Kanyon - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:38:15 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6456412 Reply
>>6456410
Yeah I can see that. I think there was a bit of fan fantasy booking to have Joe maul threw the heavyweights like he did the X Division... but the question would have been "then what?"

Sting still had gas in the tank and there was nothing wrong with a nostalgia reign - especially because he wanted to work with/put over Abyss. even if not everyone loved it, it made sense to prioritize the Sting vs Angle dream match (and tbf, Sting was TNA's first PPV needle mover)

I think the real problem with Joe's momentum was how the Kurt Angle feud played out. Russo burned through the best of 3, made it too much about Kurt & Karen, Kurt holding all the titles, etc.

If their Lockdown 2008 match happened at BFG 2007, I wonder if things could have been different for TNA.
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Larry Zbyszko - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 19:20:24 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6456427 Reply
>>6456426
Not every champion needs to be a transitional champion, either, but that's exactly what TNA did with Styles during the Planet Jarrett days..
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 19:20:29 EST iLikEToleARn No.6456428 Reply
>>6456427
Meltzer needs to be hard to say that when a wrestler, although it's mostly old content but there are a disgrace that as if I recall correctly, not amazing but still that's kind of an old wrestling fan to touch her for betraying you, there were a royal named rumble in your pants about?
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Gran Akuma - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 19:53:53 EST InPDilU1 No.6456438 Reply
>>6456435
except not at all since CM Punk was in the same company as him in 2007.
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Ken Patera - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:20:20 EST oWLdzxNc No.6456455 Reply
for me personally HHH annoyed the fuck out of me during that era like it started out fine but towards the end i just wanted him to go away. as for jarrett my time watching wcw as a jimmy made me pretty used to jarrett so oddly enough i could deal with him plus he had that whole planet jarrett stable or whatever it was with gail kim and americas most wanted that was pretty cool.


the worst reign of terror i can imagine however has gotta be cena cimply because it got to the point that every championship match cena had lost all interest cause you knew he was gonna win every single time. the punk feud was the only time there was even a small bit of hmmm maybe cena might actually lose for once.
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Kevin Kelly - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:23:17 EST WmZvuyjo No.6456459 Reply
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Jarrett absolved himself, Trips can fuck off
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:31:57 EST 48pp0a3s No.6456467 Reply
Triple H in my opinion. Triple H was going over people like RVD and Booker T who were super hot, whereas while Jarrett was going over younger guys like AJ and Monty at the time, Jarrett was still more popular with the crowd. It'd be like putting the AEW title on Hangman instead of Jericho at the first PPV, except if Jericho wasn't as good a wrestler. As soon as stars like Angle, Sting and Christian started getting their hands on the title, Jarrett never touched it again, whereas HHH would still have reigns long after his reign of terror.
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Rockin' Robin - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 21:25:28 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6456484 Reply
>>6456403
On paper Jarrett's was worse but the reality is that TNA was never real competition to WWE so Triple H's was worse. Ratings dropped (and sure there were other factors but no way did the RoT help) and fuck people were getting sick of Triple H as early as 2000 and 2001.

There's also Triple H going out of his way to bury people like Hurricane, Kane or Booker T that others had helped try to elevate or who the crowd was wanting to see elevated. Even going back pre-Reign of Terror Jericho and Angle should've been properly elevated in like 2000 and Hunter himself straight up put a stop to it because he thought they were too small to be believable (and in Angle's case, thought nobody would believe Stephanie would ever leave a guy like Tirple H for a guy like Angle). Angle didn't really get elevated until the Invasion when Triple H was gone, Jericho arguably never properly did.
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Blind Rage - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:06:12 EST yzkgwROL No.6456494 Reply
Double J repeatedly tried to pass to torch and step back (Raven, Rhino, Christian, Sting) until it finally stuck with Kurt Angle. It was shit sometimes but they were actually trying back then.

Triple H was just vanity booking himself in the territories.
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Ken Doane - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:09:11 EST VkT+UUi8 No.6456496 Reply
>>6456409
Jarrett didn't put over Samoa Joe in like 2006 when he was suppose to, then Joe lost to Angle which pretty much killed him.
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Ken Doane - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:11:26 EST VkT+UUi8 No.6456497 Reply
>>6456409
Jarrett didn't put over Samoa Joe in like 2006 when he was suppose to, then Joe lost to Angle which pretty much killed him.
>>6456467
>Jarrett was still more popular with the crowd
They once tossed water bottles into the ring after one of Jarrett's 95 fuck finish title wins. By 2005, they were begging for him to fuck off.
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Blue Demon - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:17:47 EST rWWSIM8P No.6456499 Reply
Watch the Elimination Chamber match from Summerslam 2003 and tell me HHH's reign wasn't worse. C'mon.
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Al Snow - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:29:47 EST FYmzap5S No.6456502 Reply
Jarrett's was fucking dreadful.

Ended R-Truth's title run TWICE, Styles' run, Rhino's run just 2 days later, Raven's run, Christian's first run and didn't put over Monty Brown.
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Matt Striker - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:44:55 EST 2kuh/uVy No.6456503 Reply
>>6456435

At no point in Cena's career was he the best in his company, let alone the world
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Eddie Kingston - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:53:24 EST KDNorg+J No.6456504 Reply
>>6456503

Name a 2000s WWE match better than the Cena/Umaga LMS from Royal Rumble 2007.
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Eddie Kingston - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:59:17 EST KDNorg+J No.6456506 Reply
>>6456505
I'd say Daniel Bryan was the best in the world for 2007 with Cena in second place.
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Pacman Jones - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:03:09 EST S7IWEvDh No.6456508 Reply
>>6456504
Can I play too?
>Jericho vs. Benoit, RR01
>Trips vs. Austin, No Way Out 01
>Angle vs. Benoit, RR03
>Lesnar vs. Angle, Ironman on Smackdown
There's a bunch bro.
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Eddie Kingston - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:12:03 EST KDNorg+J No.6456509 Reply
>>6456508
Eddie vs JBL from Judgment Day 2004 would be up there on a list of best 2000s WWE matches.
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Bob Armstrong - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:26:50 EST rS5T/0Vf No.6456513 Reply
>>6456504
lol, Austin vs. Rock WM 17.

I don't think this went quite the way you planned it...
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Eddie Kingston - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:28:47 EST KDNorg+J No.6456514 Reply
>>6456513
Austin vs Angle from Summerslam 2001 was probably a better match than that.
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Bob Armstrong - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:32:30 EST rS5T/0Vf No.6456516 Reply
>>6456514
Probably, and both were better than the Cena vs. Umaga LMS match.

Full disclosure, I feel like the LMS match is over-rated, having gone full-circle from appreciating its simple style and story/structure.
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Jamie Noble - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:26:40 EST T27T75Qv No.6456533 Reply
>>6456435
best wrestler in WWE that year as far match catalog goes but not THE WORLD lol
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Jamie Noble - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:29:07 EST T27T75Qv No.6456534 Reply
>>6456526
>Is this supposed to be a good thing
Yes.
Evolution era Raw is actually dope as shit, they had some fun 6 man tag matches.
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Bob Armstrong - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:41:56 EST rS5T/0Vf No.6456535 Reply
>>6456534
Speaking as a fan that actually stopped watching at that time (early 2004), specifically because of how dull the evolution storyline had gotten, I didn't think it was very dope.
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The Godfather - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:43:16 EST ewJKr7xn No.6456537 Reply
>>6456408
Having your top heel be unbeatable and booking shows around him is somewhat counter intuitive. Having the babyface overcome the heel, win the title and establish himself is booking 101. In mid 2000s Raw, Haitch would always get his win back which was infuriating and helped no one get over.

Seriously, as bad as Cena could be, atleast he was over with the kids and moved merch. No one liked Haitch, he was bad for business.
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Chyna - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:44:20 EST DsG4NjOn No.6456544 Reply
>>6456497
Joe losing to Kurt didn't kill him, it was the bungling of his world title reign with the never ending shit with Nash & coming back from injury with a cock on his face that killed him

And HHH's reign of terror was far worse. When JJ's reign ended he never won back the world title, but HHH continued to force himself into the world title scene until literally 4 years ago
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Kotenks !!rbabk2zH - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 03:22:13 EST FWjYRePR No.6456547 Reply
Those 20 minute Triple H promos were putting me to asleep so him.
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Molly Holly - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 12:23:03 EST gmcSCndS No.6456576 Reply
Triple H for certain. Post 2002 Triple H sucks.
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Mae Young - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 12:26:22 EST SzbJgT0w No.6456577 Reply
oh HHH easily.
For all the heat Cena gets for "driving away" the old WWF audience from the boom peak, I'd content most of them were already gone and driven away by Haitch from 02-05. Every single friend I had IRL who watched wrestling all stopped watching during that time frame because they tired of him steamrolling through everyone and the boring ass 20 min promos every single week.
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Chris Hero - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 12:37:58 EST dYhrmb6W No.6456583 Reply
>>6456409
>Then somehow found a way to get the title back in 2016!
I always hated how WWE just piled World titles on Triple H (especially bullshit like No Mercy 2007) but I will admit putting the belt on Triple H in 2016 just made the most sense. The whole storyline was The Authority fucking with Roman Reigns. It just makes sense the ultimate way to end that is for Roman to beat Triple H for the belt at WrestleMania.
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Curt Hawkins - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 13:42:17 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6456595 Reply
>>6456583
Was that the second or third attempt by WWE to coronate Reigns as "The Man" at WrestleMania?
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HeartBreakHill !2ImwF6mc9M - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:32:47 EST lSvr93XP No.6456610 Reply
>>6456595
The second, if we're counting the first Brock match as an attempt at a coronation.
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Molly Holly - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:36:18 EST gmcSCndS No.6456611 Reply
>>6456583
H, Orton, and Edge. They would run through world titles like candy. I'm glad that they've clearly run out of ideas for Money in the Bank for the last few years and have largely done away with it.
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Curt Hawkins - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:56:42 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6456618 Reply
>>6456610
Oh, it was. But Vince got cold feet and shoved Rollins into the match via MITB.
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Dude Love - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 21:43:42 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6456774 Reply
>>6456611
Hopefully it never comes back after whatever happens with Otis' briefcase
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Axl Rotten - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:56:46 EST SdPbl+Wq No.6456801 Reply
>>6456583
They couldn't have found someone of that generation to be The Authority's champion? No?
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Violent J - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 01:43:22 EST z7wuFBVi No.6456808 Reply
>>6456801
>ended Balor's push
>ended Sting's career
>will end Bryan's life so he won't leave for AEW
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Nigel McGuinness - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 02:01:24 EST yhwaeriU No.6456813 Reply
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Jarrett got better matches out of his egomaniacal run as the NWA World Heavyweight Championship then Triple H did from 2002 -2005 which is how long he was either Champion or continued to get the Championship back in almost record time.

The best matches out of Triple H's run as champion were against Maven and his 60 minute Iron Man match out of Chris Benoit where Benoit beat the absolute shit out of Hunter.
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Trinity - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 10:50:02 EST 9FPBTTF4 No.6456866 Reply
Triple H, at least TNA and Jarrett used his ego and he got called out in story lines, while HHH got his dick sucks by everyone in storylines
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Mistico - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:36:37 EST nVBpeOcB No.6456904 Reply
>>6456409
>The only guy whose momentum got derailed by Jarrett was Monty Brown

I love Monty Brown and I know fans now look back on him fondly, but he was NOT ready to take the belt off Jarrett yet. Monty was very charismatic but I think people forget how green he was back then. I don't blame TNA for keeping the belt on Jarrett in that situation.
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DJ Hyde - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:43:08 EST nUVuFPND No.6456905 Reply
>>6456904
And why does nobody ever talk about the way WWECW treated Monty Brown? He wasn't used well in WWE either. I'd argue he was used worse.
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Mistico - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:07:51 EST nVBpeOcB No.6456916 Reply
>>6456905
>And why does nobody ever talk about the way WWECW treated Monty Brown?

Because he left on his own terms.
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Gangrel - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:15:40 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6456919 Reply
>>6456905
>And why does nobody ever talk about the way WWECW treated Monty Brown?
Because he was there for a few months before he left - of his own free will, mind you - to take care of family. WWE didn't treat him poorly; if anything, he was probably in line for a decent push before he left. Calm your tits.
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Dude Love - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:37:27 EST 6lubTvqQ No.6456930 Reply
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>>6456905
If you know something we don't, speak up.
Afaik, Monty was getting pushed in WWECW, and left on his own terms. There were no reports of him having heat or dealing with troubles in WWE.
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Fixxxer - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:37:05 EST IHKDJk18 No.6457008 Reply
>>6456930

Exactly, Monty could have been ECW champion easily, he had the look that Vince loves, but left to take care of his family, which I really respect. No one tried to bury him or kick him out of the company.
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Meare Naito - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:55:15 EST sFc3GMQk No.6457033 Reply
>>6456905
>He wasn't used well in WWE either
He was there for a few months and got a spot on Wrestlemania before deciding to quit. What did you want them to do better in the small amount of time he was there?
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Tully Blanchard - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 22:08:19 EST nUVuFPND No.6457036 Reply
Oh right WWE is so awesome. My bad.
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Lita - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 22:17:47 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6457045 Reply
>>6457036
I'm sorry that you can't accept how we can both criticize WWE and point out how Monty Brown leaving WWE of his own accord for reasons wholly unrelated to his in-ring career nixed any plans WWE had for him.
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Meare Naito - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:38:27 EST sFc3GMQk No.6457054 Reply
>>6457036
lol stop, there are hundreds of guys they treated like shit and never figured out how to book, Monty's just not one of them.
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Bryce Remsburg - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 02:41:46 EST SdPbl+Wq No.6457078 Reply
>>6456904
Here's the deal: if you have someone in a must-win match they can't actually win DON'T PUT THEM IN THE MATCH.

And especially don't make them into the bitch lackey of the guy they lost to.

>>6457036
embarrassing
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Bob Backlund - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:35:36 EST HRj6nBxW No.6457112 Reply
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>why yes, i'm obsessed with HHH because he made me angry once and i still haven't gotten over it, how did you know?
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Claudio Castagnoli - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:39:13 EST lsJkdxxz No.6457114 Reply
>>6456427
Im gunna disagree with you. Transitional champions should happen. You MAY need one for a star to work an angle that really doesn't need a belt.
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Bob Backlund - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:40:11 EST HRj6nBxW No.6457116 Reply
>>6457113
>t. triggered fedora who is obsessed with HHH and felt like he needed to project his impotent rage onto others
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The People - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:48:03 EST rRLAccW7 No.6457119 Reply
Triple H easily, the Booker burial is infinitely worse than any of the bullshit that happened with Jarrett.
>>6457036
If you think WWE scorned Monty for some reason why not explain your viewpoint instead of acting like an uppity bitch when people give you reasons for why you're wrong?
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Mike Enos - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:56:06 EST GeSKhreF No.6457182 Reply
Jarrett was "worse" in that he had a longer run, but if you actually look at his booking he almost always depicted himself as an undeserving champion who stayed on top for reasons outside of his actual ability.

He was always a weak champion, to the extent that in early TNA the World Heavyweight title was a de-facto midcard belt to the X-Division title. Unless your main metric is days holding the belt and number of runs Triple H was worse.
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Papaya - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:22:58 EST Arlyurcu No.6457194 Reply
I feel like one of the overlooked reasons hhh got old quick was that he spent like the first six months of his post attitude era establishing championship run feuding with Nash and Steiner whom the latter was probably putting out the worst work of his career and the former is just one of the worst. After all that anyone else would of had the title taken off of them and given time away from the title scene to reestablish themselves. That’s said, the rest of his run was good for the time pretty much until they reformed DX.

Jarrett was kind of a necessary evil. I’m sure when you’re trying to build your brand with other companies it helps to have established stars. But they probably just care that they’re featured and don’t demand they have a stranglehold on the mainevent. That said Jarrett was the only guy who wasn’t gonna up and leave if WWE threw a bunch of money at him.
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Drew McIntyre - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:29:29 EST NbxmdHMb No.6457195 Reply
You could make the argument Jarrett was the only 'big' star until Sting came to be a regular. And thank god for the X Division during that time.

But here are the highlights of Triple H from late 2002-05
>Awarded the title
>Beat over as fuck RVD
>Beat Kane and killed the IC belt for 7 months
>Lose to HBK to only win the belt back a month later
>Bury Scott Steiner twice
>Bury Booker T at Mania with racist storyline
>Feud with Kevin Nash and win
>Be injured and refuse to drop the title at Summerslam to logical choice Goldberg who was built up
>lol no I'll beat him in the chamber and wait another month
>lose to Goldberg finally
>Win belt back 3 months later
>Lose belt to Benoit
>Beat Orton a month after he beat Benoit, killing his babyface momentum
>Lose the belt to vacancy only so he can win it back and become a 10 time champ before dropping it to Batista

Ric Flair in the 80s he was not
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Tully Blanchard - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:33:51 EST nUVuFPND No.6457196 Reply
>>6457195
Yeah don't forget his matches were all mediocre or trash during this time too. His theme song even bragged about how he played the game and how he's in control.

Wrestling just dies a death when one asshole uses their power to book themselves as the top guy. It worked in the 80s and has not really worked since. People even got sick of nWo and they were the hottest coolest thing in wrestling.
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Drew McIntyre - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:40:33 EST NbxmdHMb No.6457198 Reply
>>6457196
Don't forget the biggest star of the last 15 years was John Cena who got big while on Smackdown during that time. Triple H would have killed him
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Lita - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:56:19 EST 4zJo/ELj No.6457200 Reply
>>6457196
>Yeah don't forget his matches were all mediocre or trash during this time too.
Not entirely true. The two Triple Threat matches he had with Benoit and Shawn were fucking great - if only because two of the best to ever lace up a pair of boots were carrying Hunter to at least a four-star match both times.
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Kenzo Suzuki - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:57:20 EST Ynl+K5T5 No.6457202 Reply
>>6457195
Supposedly Trips actually really liked RVD and wanted to put him over. Apparently he would try to discuss things with Rob but kept getting blown off because RVD didn't like to work that way.

HHH was my favourite growing up. He hit people with a sledgehammer and got to fuck Steph. In my eyes he was way cooler than Austin and Rock. During his reign of terror I was about 14-15 I think and I'm not sure if I was actually bored with him or I was just growing out of wrestling, but I spent my Friday nights doing other things.

It was actually TNA that brought me back and I really struggled with JJ to begin with. Mostly because I really wanted guys like Raven and Rhino to be champion but he grew on me. Honestly if I watched both back now I'd probably enjoy them. I think I was just burnt out on wrestling when Haitch was having his run.
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X-Pac - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:04:07 EST Nwp9fWmA No.6457203 Reply
>>6457202
>Supposedly Trips actually really liked RVD and wanted to put him over. Apparently he would try to discuss things with Rob but kept getting blown off because RVD didn't like to work that way.

Kevin Eck, a former WWE writer from this time (who currently works on ROH's website) used to have a "behind the scenes" blog thats now been pruned from the net but **SUPPOSEDLY** this was Vince's logic to HHH beating RVD to become the first WH
>the WHC is a new title and needs to have an established main eventer to make it seem important
>RVD couldn't be the first champ because it would split the focus trying to get him over as a credible main eventer AND get the WHC over as a credible main event belt
>with Brock and Taker on SD, HHH was the only main eventer on Raw who could get the new title over
>it wouldn't make sense for him to beat RVD in a tournament final "because he's a heel"
>it would get more heat if Bischoff just handed the title to him

I mean... I get it when it's broken down like that. Still led to boring TV.
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Jon Moxley - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 18:18:54 EST Z96aJ4e0 No.6457239 Reply
>>6457194
People were sick of Triple H in 2000 even in 2000/2001. What's the quote about him? A 7 pushed as a 10 so everyone thinks he's a 4?

Where Jericho was in WWE -- a perennial mid-upper guy who largely stays around the IC level but can convincingly have feuds at or near the top of the card and get short world title reigns -- is basically what Triple H's ceiling actually always should have been. Instead we got Sexy Badass Rebel who overcompensated hard because he was never as popular as truly popular wrestlers like Austin, Rock, Jericho and Angle.

>>6457202
London also said that after the whole deal where Triple H Pedigreed Londrick for the crime of coming out to save him from a heel attack he told them that he didn't REALLY want to do it but he was told it was meant to lead to London and Kendrick feuding with Triple H but gosh darn it Vince just didn't like the idea so it is what it is.

What I'm saying is that if Triple H said that he really wanted to put over RVD honest he's probably full of shit.
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Tank Abbott - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 20:16:04 EST dYhrmb6W No.6457267 Reply
>>6456930
>>6457008
Monty always had one foot out the door when it came to wrestling. The guy played in the NFL for years, and also owned a gym/personal training service. He didn't NEED to wrestle, he just did it because he was a fan. That's why TNA never made him champion, and it's the same reason he didn't have any issues walking away from WWE when he had to.
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Averno - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 20:17:27 EST QHN7xcxJ No.6457268 Reply
>>6457202
I started watching wrestling around the beginning of Cena's rise. I remember thinking Triple H was super cool, if I had started watching during the attitude era, I probably would've been that kid that liked Trips better too
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:50:42 EST KDNorg+J No.6457297 Reply
>>6457200
Name instances where Shawn Michaels was clearly carrying someone.
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Skip Sheffield - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:09:22 EST nUVuFPND No.6457301 Reply
>>6457202
I don't get this. So Triple H would be like "Hey RVD what if you wont the championship and I put you over clean?" and then RVD blew him off? Sounds like Triple H bullshit.
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Hayabusa - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:19:31 EST oggDbCs/ No.6457308 Reply
>>6457202
I was under the impression RVD was gonna go over him at some point until he landed on Haitch's neck during the chamber.
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:35:04 EST KDNorg+J No.6457312 Reply
>>6457307
The HBK/HHH HIAC from 2004 was BAD. Match had no business going that long.
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Rowdy Roddy Piper - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 23:55:58 EST KDNorg+J No.6457331 Reply
>>6457329
I'd say Taker was the better guy in their WM 25 and 26 matches.
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Jamie Knoble - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:04:57 EST o355usNY No.6457400 Reply
>>6457203
i was gonna just quote the first thing about established main eventers but really this applies to all of it. these are lazy justifications that yes make sense but since this is a fake sport, as long as you stay committed to the booking just about anything can get over. A hot babyface putting on matches people will wanna see makes the title just as credible...fuck thats NORMALLY how wwf/e is suppose to work. its a babyface territory
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Ayako Hamada - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:41:25 EST bZNqyjtd No.6457436 Reply
I liked Jarrett. Haitch was torture...

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