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Bump When Watching IV by Cmdr. Williams - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:05:51 EST ID:3bunwxei No.58359 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old one isn't bumping anymore.

>VOY Future's End

I'll admit I love the episodes where the crew somehow ends up in current year and this one is no exception. The entire two parter is really cheesy and it knows it. It's great.
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Senator Tal'aura - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:52:39 EST ID:gxxlaBgy No.59076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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oh boy
Senator Tal'aura - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:13:57 EST ID:gxxlaBgy No.59077 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Enterprise sounds like a pretty fun show now..
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T'Pau - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:39:22 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It kinda is. If you don't overanalyze it, and take it too seriously, I think it's a really fun and funny show. I thoroughly love the crew. Hoshi is kinda bland milktoast, Mayweather is a shit, but that's just because he's uneblievably bland. Malcolm is fucking cool. I'd totally have him as my security officer. Same with Paris, chief engineer for sure. He reminds me of a Southern American Scotty. T'pol is kinda shitty compared to other Vulcans, but she has her moments, and her sexy scenes with Paris. And Phlox is fucking cool. He easily got the #2 spot for doctors right behind EMH.
If you take it as campy, it's fucking brilliant IMO. Also, the last episode doesn't exist.
But you can't analyze their actions too much because this is the VERY FIRST Earth starship going out to meet new people. All they knew were they Vulcans. And before long they start making friends and getting into squabbles with the Tellerites and the Andorians.
The arc and relationship between Shran and Archer through the series was super well done imo, and even when they're stuck in the Delphic Expanse, which is pretty much universally considered the worst part of the show, the crew still finds moments to shine and show that true potential that was sadly cut short.
I love the ENT crew. For me they all feel really authentic, and I think they did a great job of portraying Archer and the formation of the Federation.

And the Voyager crew is really starting to grow on me. I just don't like the way it was like written with a focus group style writing, and the fact that the writers didn't seem to think that Trekkies would analyze every single thing with an almost autistic attention to detail, lol. But I have a feeling by the time I finish Voyager, I'll have a deeper appreciation for it. It's just at this point I really, really hate neelix and janeway annoys the crap out of me. Chipotle honestly isn't too bad when he's not going on about the stupid native crap. Everyone else has grown on me a lot though. Even Tuvok.
For some reason I didn't like him when I had just seen sporadic episodes here and there, but now that i'm seeing development with him, and gettin…
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T'Pau - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:38:52 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Voy Threshold

Just when I thought Voy was finally turning it around and starting to get pretty good-Threshold..

We /Rom/ulan Now by Chulak - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 13:03:07 EST ID:Wqg7ST5a No.58975 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had something I was curious about, and maybe this can move the discussion of Romulan culture to here instead of shitting up the DSC thread.

Is it ever explained why Romulans have names like Vreenak, Kretak, etc. when they're supposed to have a huge boner for the Roman Earth civilization? Shouldn't they be named Vespasian and Domitian and Servilla and all that? I know they and Vulcans were once one race, but those names aren't exactly Vulcan either, right?

And while we're on the subject of Vulcans vs. Romulans, it's shown time and again that Vulcans are rather hot-blooded from suppressing everything all the time, and when it's triggered they can get frenzied and w/e. Why are the Romulans constantly portrayed as so cold and calculating then? Wouldn't they, having rejected the path of logic, be more impassioned? - not to the level of Pon Farr or anything because they don't have the suppression factor - but shouldn't they be writing love poems, partying, and screwing all the time instead of scheming against the Feddies?
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Hadley - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:06:49 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I gave babylon 5 a shot a while ago, but maybe i just didn't like the asthetic of it starting of. I didn't really give it a real shot.
Thanks to you guys I'm gonna give it a real shot. I'll watch the pilot again tonight.
DaiMon Tarr - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:47:05 EST ID:nCcVoj5C No.59062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's SUPER padded for the 24 episode season format.

The overarching story is great though. It was one of the first shows of its kind, an antecedent of great stuff like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. If it was remade in a similar format it could be incredible.

Unfortunately I don't think that's worth doing, studios probably don't either, and I kinda don't want to have to see anyone fuck it up.

If you want to get a good slice of what Babylon 5 has to offer, I'd suggest the movie Babylon 5: In the Beginning. It gives the backstory and sets the show up nicely as much as it serves as a retrospective for fans who have completed the series through season 4 and know the important bits of the backstory from the series.

Either way, In the Beginning brings those elements together for a coherent story. In a way, there are spoilers but they aren't heavy handed and they'll go right over a new viewer's head. Any spoilerish cues that do stick in your head will only heighten your awareness of those elements when you do get around to the series, the mysterious allure is not broken by them IMO.

I think B5: In the Beginning is masterfully crafted to bookend the series. Most of the B5 movies are shit though.
Iliana Ghemor - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:53:37 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Confirming that there is extensive padding, particularly in the first two seasons (and season 5 is pretty much one big pad...) but the core arc beginning mid-season 2 to the end of season 4 is so tightly packed and intense that it's worth it (and you're actually grateful for the break of the padding.)
Still, here is the list I always recommend when this comes up. It's B5 with all the fat trimmed away: http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/babylon-5-condensed-how-to-watch-sci-fis-most-intimidating-masterpiece-1613627/

>>If it was remade in a similar format it could be incredible.
Well, they're not going to do that per se. But JMS has already announced that a film version of B5 is in production. So yes to the remade bit, but different format.
Iliana Ghemor - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:25:44 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.59064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thx guys. Bookmarked the guide, and I probably will watch the movie first.
And as long as there is good dialogue and some decent character development, I shouldn't have much issue with the padding.
Greer - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:05:16 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.59073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I jumped into B5 at the start of Season 2. When they introduce Captain Tron to the things happening they also bring the viewer up to speed just fine.

Did anybody ever autism up all the shots that were cropped for the DVDs? The PsyCorps ad is the most obvious but flipping between the 4:3 LDs and the DVDs showed a bunch of minor shots that got cropped too.

So what can I do for ya, Pally? by Kira Nerys - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 20:41:49 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58782 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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You helped Quark smuggle some random drug for some random degenerate planet past the Feddies. He has rewarded you with 30 strips of Latinum, and a free 4 hour session in one of his famed holosuites.

How do you choose to spend it the time in the holosuite, assuming he has any program you could ever want?
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Deanna Troi - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:11:17 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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it could have some kind of mechanism like serotonin, considering how prevalent it is and how it effects so many systems of the body
Lon Suder - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:17:58 EST ID:ZpNNEjFo No.59035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do a lot of heroin and spend the 4 hours with an image of my dead wife
Kimara Cretak - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:35:17 EST ID:NP3snBPI No.59037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why have an intestine? They just need a liver like organism to do the work. No fibre or junk needs separating, ketracel is everything they need and is likely designed as smart as they are. They don't take large volumes, in fact it's a tiny quantity that they ingest so even if it's energy dense it won't need lots of space to ferment like our food as the actual size of a vial of white is tiny.

As they don't eat I'd agree it's a complex protein perhaps also a high density store of energy several times more efficient than natural forms like fat but again their unique metabolism lets them use it. I believe not all the components can be replicated hence all that stuff about the planet the dominion wanted, so the compound it's refined from is already insanely complex and energitic/unstable.

Of course Jem Hadar probably instead have extra muscle and more space for bigger and better heart, lungs and so on but half the shit we have in our torso just won't be there.
David Marcus - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:32:07 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lt. Talas - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:39:36 EST ID:R5+vNoeJ No.59065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bryan Fuller Leaves "Star Trek: Discovery" as Showrunner by M'Pella - Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:02:42 EST ID:lBRkOczw No.56838 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Sources said there had been some strain between “Star Trek” producer CBS Television Studios and Fuller over the progress of production on the show

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Subcommander T'Rul - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:27:41 EST ID:n8McU5oH No.59052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trek needed to be left fallow for a while after Enterprise. Movies-TNG-DS9-VOY-ENT with more movies through the whole time is a respectable run for a franchise. They keep it lurching along like that Vorta the Ferengi accidentally killed
Christine Chapel - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:33:41 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trek will never actually 100% end, as long as there are humans (and I guess, remnants of what we would consider 'Western' culture.) We're still telling and retelling and making expansions on stories that are thousands of years old. You don't think we will do the same thing with Trek?

At some point CBS will no longer be a business, or copyright law will get a major shakeup (it's a good question which is more likely to happen first) but one way or another eventually Trek will enter the public domain. Then people will be able to continue it forever, with wildly different ideas about how it should be (like the recent Sherlock Holmes revivals.)

Who knows, in 1000 years people will probably begin to get confused, and think that Trek was partially historical.
Ghee P'Trell - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:29:55 EST ID:Wqg7ST5a No.59057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll always wonder what could have been if the Voyager or DS9 crew had gotten movies instead of doing ENT/JJ Trek. I hate the TNG movies so much but both those other casts would have been much more suited to action sci-fi schlock cause their captain isn't a cerebral, shakespearean grandpa.
Christopher Brynner - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:40:34 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.59059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought the phrase was "all good things in good time"
Christopher Brynner - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:41:34 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.59060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nvm, I looked it up and I'm just a hippy burnout

Best Trek by Grand Nagus Zek - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 02:30:06 EST ID:2xbiEPcR No.58851 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it just me or is DS9 the best Trek?
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Senator Pardek - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:15:11 EST ID:FnFcSTDu No.58882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think a bit of that is knowing the characters. But it's not good TV if you have to watch later episodes to appreciate it. You want to get people on board now.

However there are some genuinely good episodes and not many awful ones. As I said, the circle arc is good and Duet is great TV in general.
Guardian of Forever - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:44:50 EST ID:aGXOTlyw No.58883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I liked a lot of them more on rewatches when I could better appreciate the DS9 gang doing Trek stuff instead of Ronald Moore SF TV Drama stuff.
Michael Sullivan - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:26:18 EST ID:vhe/UV6p No.58888 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I just watched the Eddington chase episode today, and you're right, Sisko adapts, and even decides to "become the villain" to Eddington's romantic hero ideal of himself, so to get Eddington to commit an act of heroic self-sacrifice for his people he does something unspeakably villainous...though no more so than what the Maquis planned to do to the Cardassian colonists.

And you're right about Sisko, he does adapt, he has to as Captain of a station, as he has to deal with so many conflicting elements at once, both within himself and around him, whereas Picard is speeding across the galaxy finding something new each time. He's never really forced to betray what he believes in like Sisko.

But yes, Sisko is a badass. He has to deal with deceit and at times deal in it and never breaks, though he comes close several times. He's willing to take risks, like taking a half-functional Defiant into battle.

As for Tom, I read on memory-alpha that there is a computer log about him that says he died in a fight in the labour camp, so I guess that's the end of him. Defiant is a great episode though.

As for the first couple of seasons, I agree completely, although I I have to say, TNG season 1 is great in my books, even crap like Angel One. I have a soft spot for it, sure some episodes are rubbish, but some are great. Encounter At Farpoint is one of my favourites in the whole series and 110010-etc, and Conspiracy are great. The first two seasons of DS9 have plenty of great episodes, and the cast makes it, aside from Sisko who I feel, only really comes into his own in season 3, but that works for the show too, as Sisko wasn't comfortable in his post at first. The episodes about Li Nalas and the circle are great, and I too enjoyed Melora. Maybe those first two seasons seem a little colder, because many of the characters still did not like each other. By season 4 pretty much everyone is on friendly terms, but I do enjoy the dislike certain characters have in the first two seasons, particularly O'Brien for Bashir in Tosk, The Storyteller and Rivals but of course they were fast friends by season 4. But that's what I enjoy about the show, the way …
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Montgomery Scott - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:42:13 EST ID:5uU+DoWU No.59054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eddington was the best DS9 villain imo, too bad we didn't see more of him.
He should have been the one being stranded with Sisko on the barren planet after the dominion attack, not Dukat.

Which also brings me to the way the "Late Dukat" was portrayed. The whole pah-wraith cult and upto and including the finale felt somewhat out of place for the purposes of a Star Trek villain.
Yeah they might have had to add another season to wrap up loose ends then, but would that have been so bad?
Kessick - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:27:24 EST ID:xLMzDoiw No.59056 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I agree in a way, but I think the whole series works as it is anyway. I would love a season 8 reunion though.

In season 6 Dukat basically becomes pure evil with no chance at redemption, which sort of makes him a less interesting character. In the early seasons we got to see multiple sides to him, and it's great, he was undoubtedly a killer but you wondered about his motivations, and we learned a lot about Cardassian society and how it works through him.

As for Eddington, I was satisfied with his send-off.

Star Trek jokes thread by r-e-b-a-r-t - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:23:57 EST ID:L51DfOC9 No.58458 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post your best Star Trek jokes?

What would you call your shoes if they grew beards since last you wore them?

Riker's shoes.
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B'Etor - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:06:26 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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B'Etor - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:08:36 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jaresh-Inyo - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:16:21 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58767 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Is this a reference to Green Room?
Eliminator Leck - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 04:56:53 EST ID:GXFLYcN6 No.58771 Ignore Report Quick Reply

meh, some of them are pretty funny i guess.
Broca - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:52:00 EST ID:MZhfxrBx No.59044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hyperspace basically is Subspace though.

Your All-Franchise All Star Crew by Shinsookie - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:35:44 EST ID:aFhEZLpl No.57961 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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We've all had this discussion before, it's part of being a Trek fan, but I'm curious what my fellow viewers and assorted Taimafolk have to say right now.

>CO) Captain Jean-Luc Picard
  • Why? He's the epitome of the wise leader. Diplomat at his best, warrior when required. His family line meant everything to him but he willingly sacrificed his chances for romance and children in order to stay in the captain's chair. I admired Janeway's mama bear drive to drag her crew home on her back, I loved Sisko's more forceful way of leading, but it still goes to Picard.

>XO) Commander William Riker
  • This was a hard one, because Riker and Kira were both very interesting characters who capably saved the day when their COs were otherwise engaged. But the simple fact that Riker was Picard's understudy makes him the winner.

>Chief Engineer) Commander Charles "Trip" Tucker III
  • I like O'Brien a lot, Geordie had his moment, but Trip was in a lot of ways the heart and soul of Enterprise. His character was so well done Television Without Pity named their award for "best character in an otherwise bad show" the Trip Tucker Award.

>Chief Medical Officer) Doctor Phlox
  • This was a tough one, as I LOVED the EMH and I enjoyed Bashir, but Phlox's role as the outsider on humanity's first warp 5 vessel was well done. He had his very silly moments, yes, but those weren't all we saw of him. He knew when it was go time and he could be a consummate professional. Compare Billingsley's acting as Phlox against Philips' acting as Neelix. Both cheerful outsider characters, but Phillips never knew when to show Neelix's competent and darker side, which to him simply becoming a joke. I also enjoyed how, when Archer was struggling with an ethical dilemma, he often sought advice from Phlox.

>Chief Science Officer) Jadzia Dax
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Senator Tal'aura - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:37:19 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.58049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That fucking RNG.
Guinan - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:02:07 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not gonna lie, I've been trying to figure out what the fuck you meant by this for days. Please explain. What does this have to do with Random Number Generators? What the fuck man.
Guinan - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:05:14 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh my god I'm so fucking stupid.. I see now. I see. Forgive me.
Sarina Douglas - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:02:23 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You're forgiven Guinan
Senator Pardek - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:18:45 EST ID:aYEMXxXA No.59036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Ship Counselor: Garak

Rascals Episode 2: Wesley's Revenge by Guinan - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 02:39:11 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guys, it finally happened. 4 years, 2 months, 15 days, 18 hours, 32 minutes and 19 seconds after it was first created, the rascals thread has sunk into the dark abyss where only netjester can roam.

RIP in peace creepy thread.
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Weyoun 8 - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:07:09 EST ID:kIUOtR3z No.58984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah loli Keiko is still Keiko. It's still a hell​.
Admiral Cartwright - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:19:29 EST ID:52qIw6x9 No.58985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think we all know what REALLY happened *wink*
Greskrendtregk - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:19:46 EST ID:dviAa10l No.58986 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Lt. Ro Laren - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:35:10 EST ID:52qIw6x9 No.59027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had to check who the actress was that played young Keiko, because I thought it might have been the same girl who played the elf Judy in The Santa Clause, and nope. Although https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Junko_King did go on to be a show runner over at Doramon (some anime kids show).

Unfortunately looks like Judy disappeared, and my guess is she got hella molested and washed out of hollywood. Uncouth? It's the truth and you know it. http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0848402/
Rom - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:58:08 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.59028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I assume they mean the US dub of Doraemon? Seems weird they'd have some rando in a real position on a franchise of that size.

"Trek can't be post-apocalyptic or it betrays Roddenberry" by Mestral - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:00:20 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59010 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Except the entire series including the movies and STD are set after World War Three, which wipes out billions of people and sends earth back to pre-industrial levels of development.
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Deanna Troi - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:47:39 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Post apocalyptic implies that in the time period the piece takes place in that they're still dealing with the effects of the apocalypse, and that society is still set back.
Have you ever watched a post apocalypse movie where it's 300 years after the apocalypse and everything is great and they're actually better off because of the apocalypse?
Just because there was an apocalyptic event in the history doesn't mean it's post apocalypse.
If that was so, then we're living in a post apocalyptic setting right now. A comet wiped out the dinosaurs but now it's years later and everything is good, and human wouldn't have become the dominant species without it!
nb for semantics thread.
Mestral - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:11:30 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think much Trek happens in the context of a Galactic Community, and I mean that in the sense of "most of the galaxy is known" like in Babylon 5.
I think STD could really do something with that,.
I would think, though, that Enterprise is just that kind of thing though-- There have been several major long-term wars, and the quadrant is rebuilding.
Andor/Vulcan war, Human/Human war, et c.
I think post-Dominion War Alpha Quad counts. And really, one really great show idea is a post-apocalyptic Earth-Romulan war series. We claw out of WW3 and rebuild, begin to make a new community with Vulcan, Andoria, Rigel, Tellar, only to be blown to fuck by an invisible empire of super dicks.

The Federation, from Enterprise's End really, up to TOS, would be one hell of a tense crawl through twisted metal and broken dreams.
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Post-apocalyptic is a genre in which the action takes place during or after the catastrophe, while civilization is still in shambles. Civilization is not in shambles in Trek, so it's not post-apocalyptic, even if an apocalyptic event is a part of its backstory. Post-apocalyptic tales are about the strife of dealing with catastrophe. Trek is utopian; it's basic premise is that strife has already been dealt with. In a way, Trek is kind of anti-post-apocalyptic.

Most of space isn't known in B5, they've actually explored a much smaller amount than the Federation has. In fact, the younger races are mostly contained within the Orion arm. Pic related; the green outline is the extent of the furthest expansion of the Shadows during the war. Since from their perspective the Shadow war was all encompassing, we can assume they don't really know about anything beyond this region.
Mestral - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:35:40 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah, by "Rim" they meant "Border of Known Space" not the actual Galactic Rim.
Fucking misleading is what that is, JMS.
David Marcus - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:33:16 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah that confused me too, when I watched it as a kid I was imagining it was like the whole galaxy. I still think when the First Ones talk about going beyond the Rim, they do mean the space outside of the galaxy though.

Stardate 420 by Lt. Maxwell Burke - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:55:36 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58940 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>>Captain's Log
>>Stardate 420.ree
>>I've ordered science officer Spock to chart a course through the atmosphere of Dankicus IV, the only planet in this quadrant that is completely hotboxed.
>>Chief Medical Officer McCoy is now dispensing vaporized medication through the environmental systems, 420 parts per million. His words to me, 'It's lit, Jim.'
>>Engineer Scott is reportedly dabbing hot nails right off the warp core. Engineering staff operating at peak efficiency. His report coming in now, 'It's green!'
>>I'd like to officially note citations for the entire bridge staff. They have taken fat rip after fat rip to the dome and only Chekov is coughing like a little bitch.
>>Helm, set a new course. It's time for the captain to hit this shit. Heading; stoned. Warp factor, high. Engage!

Happy 4/20 /1701/! May your replicators always be full of nugs and your warp cores never breach.
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Biddle Coleridge - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:56:57 EST ID:NNu0rHAt No.58944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:56:27 EST ID:jo7nUZ1k No.58945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Miles have you seen my Purple Klingon Skunk plant?
Curzon Dax - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:05:59 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's the kinda face that makes an accidental spousal airlock accident seem so appealing
Simon Tarses - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:27:49 EST ID:dviAa10l No.58947 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Orator Plegg - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:22:24 EST ID:zMehEFjD No.58992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What is this? the 21st Century? Well no, any other man would just use a teleporter and claim it was an accident but Miles happens to be one of the best transporter techs in the federation so he's fucked himself again.

Chief miles O'brien appreciation thread by Silik - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:26:20 EST ID:L3E9v1HE No.58312 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay. So I know you took a look at the title and your wondering why. Let me explain before you turn around and arm the photon's. See in a world as big as outlandish as star trek is. It needs normal characters. People who seem much more well, basic.

Think about it. Star trek is filled with people who have can accept making universe changing decisions. Obrien is so diffrent, he does things out of a sense of duty more than anything. He cares about his family. He isn't concered with the layers behind everything.

And that's what makes him such a great foil. Against the back drop of star trek where drastic universe changing things happen on an episode by episode basis its nice to see someone just have simple family problems. And while this doesn't make him the most interesting character, it makes him an important element.

Its easy to forget that even in a world where humanity has moved on, improved so much, that people are still very much people. That people can live relatively normal lives (never mind the random perils of space thats just part of working for startfleet). Sure, there's a little bit of this with a lot of trek characters, but miles is different.

What people forget is that so many of the other charters in trek that we get to see in basic capacities are less than basic people. Captains and their ilk have this romanticism to them, that's not obrien at all. Piccard will tell her we'll always have paris, and a guy like miles will tell her shes a swell girl.

It's important to note that the humanization of treks world becomes a little more plausible through someone like miles. That even if he's not that exciting that he helps step the stage for believability. Its a big universe but, hey someones gotta be at home arguing with their wife.
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Lwaxana Troi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:20:50 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
but transhumanism aside, i agree, O'brien is a great dramatic element that adds a lot of charm to the show. He keeps everybodies feet on the ground. I wonder if hes like that as an actor, too, like a no-nonsense stick to the script method actor..

He does his job and collects his paycheck, just like everybody else.
Lwaxana Troi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:22:19 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hardly anyone from Star Trek ever goes on to have good careers. Its like a career death sentence, once you end up on star trek, you're on Star Trek forever, thats the only work you are getting.
Persis - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:17:30 EST ID:k4sWA7J/ No.58791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think this is sort of true. However the advent of video games means that voice actors are needed and having a nerdy resume and the ability to ham it up are strengths in that field. Same with cartoon stuff. A lot of the actors have a LOT of work there. I think for most of them Star Trek is the best they'll have once they do it. It's like moving to UAE. You can get a lucrative job but it's nearly impossible to move up as a foreigner. You go there when your career has otherwise gone as far as it will usually.

While Patrick Stewart is the obvious exception, Kate Mulgrew was critically acclaimed in orange is the new black and has kept busy. I didn't realise she's also Flemeth. Colm Meaney does alright, but yeah does a lot of graft. He co starred in the Alan Partridge movie which I almost forgot. Poor Pat. Levar Burton has a shitload of awards but reading rainbow predates TNG so there's definitely an element of him going no further there. Most of the rest have done a lot of voice acting but they don't do much more on TV or film.

What I'm saying is it doesn't kill your career as much as limit it.

Though hopefully someone else can think of some "oh shit really?" exceptions now.
Deanna Troi - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:52:23 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Though it doesn't count as an actual 'gig' Brent Spiner's web series 'Fresh Hell' is pretty hilarious in that Brent plays himself and accurately portrays how much of an unrepentant asshole he is. In one episode he is bumming money from LeVar all the while making fun of how he used to rub his balls on the visor. It's great stuff
Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:02:40 EST ID:jo7nUZ1k No.58958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Siddig made it on Game of Thrones for a season, and is playing Ra's al Ghoul on Fox's Gotham next season. Good job on being a handsome vaguely foreign guy in hollywood whose uncle is Malcolm McDowell. Real horrorshow.

Garak's Novel by Subcommander N'Vek - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 04:05:26 EST ID:KjVbhEBa No.58724 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Garak is the best character in all of Star Trek. We know this.

Is Andrew J. Robinson's book "A Stitch In Time" worth the read?

Looking it up just now on amazon it looks like its book number 27 in a DS9 series .... would I have to read these other books to understand the story at the time in the book?
Ulis - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 05:11:07 EST ID:NQYwnkki No.58726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
damn, now I'm going to have to go buy a shitload of these books I never knew about.
they all look great.
Dr. Mizan - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:34:12 EST ID:n8McU5oH No.58730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Is Andrew J. Robinson's book "A Stitch In Time" worth the read?
don't worry about the 27 other books yet
A Stitch in Time is basically the actor's notes about the character's backstory tweaked as a novel.
it has massive spoilers for DS9 obviously, and gives the real answers about Garak (at least as far as his actor saw it), so tread carefully
Prinadora - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:25:28 EST ID:Lqmnk0Ik No.58816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First, and currently only, trek novel I've ever read.

It's absolutely amazing. Robinson is quite good at writing and it's a shock this was his first book. He made up tons of backstory for Garak and it just feels right when you read it.

Couldn't recommend it enough.
Emperor Kahless - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:36:07 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>> it's a shock this was his first book
Lots of Trek actors have 'written' books you would be amazed were by them. While undoubtedly they contribute ideas and maybe even rough drafts, they almost always have ghost writers bring it up to professional quality.
Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:48:38 EST ID:iows5Uco No.58820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah but I think he's one of the only ones not to use a ghost writer.

Then again the book is really a rewrite of his journals written to give backstory to the character. If he hadn't been keeping them and giving a thoughtful interpretation to Garak's role in the scripts from the character's point of view.

And we all know that Garak is the best character on the show, and that effort is why.

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