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Things I liked that I saw in the Picard TV series.

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- Wed, 01 Apr 2020 22:56:35 EST nldWS06A No.70009
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ITT: We talk about what is good about Star Trek: Picard and the current state of Trek.

I loved Picard,
Because is brought back the hope in the future that TOS was based on and mixed it with the beautiful VOY theme of positivity as a tool to overcome adversity.

Yeah, inconsistencies MUST be pointed out so studios hire proper staff in regards of continuity and science accuracy. Borgs are NOT less dense than oxygen. Still, superb photography, nice FX, COOL story (brah), great casting, excellent pacing, and a sociological perspective on robots as slave labor with a peaceful resolution.

Humanity reaps once more the fruit of civilization.
Love you all.
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Commander Morag - Tue, 26 May 2020 16:38:14 EST LNOdPH0z No.70305 Reply
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Did the transporter scramble your brain? He's obviously talking about nuTrek's tendency to show alcohol abuse as shorthand for "This character is DARK and COMPLEX, so they DRINK to show THEY ARE NUMBING THEMSELVES TO THE PAIN!!1!"

Sure Alcohol has always been present in Star Trek (real and synthesized), but the episode where Scotty has to Binge Drink some alien from the Andromeda Galaxy into oblivion is done to save the Enterprise, not because "Scotty hates himself and is sad because bad things happened to him."

I guess DS9 had a few drunks too, but other than Damar it was done sparingly. And even he sobered up when it was time for his face-turn.

Mr. Plinkett's Star Trek Picard Review

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- Wed, 20 May 2020 00:22:20 EST JbyLr5gR No.70263
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He sounds genuinely pissed off in this review, you can really feel his anguish.
It's great to see the writers get so thoroughly hosed.
What do ya'll think of his review?
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Tue, 26 May 2020 02:11:54 EST KA3qn+7B No.70301 Reply
This is pretty much where I'm at right now, too.
Guinan - Tue, 26 May 2020 16:22:25 EST b048m/L8 No.70304 Reply
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I second this emotion

I genuinely believe TOS helped fuel the first steps into space, at least on the American side of the space race. Its popularity and its forward-thinking optimistic outlook for the future in space was truly inspiring. I think TNG continued this and DS9 is where the ball was dropped. Its not so much that DS9 couldn't show the darker side of the future, it's that at the end of DS9 we have no epilogue to remind you there's a better future coming, where Cardassia and Ferenginar both join the Federation eventually.. what would have been really nice would have been a short scene from a few years later, perhaps only involving Julian and Garak, just to leave you with a bit of positivity. I think that between that missing piece, Generations killing both Kirk and the Ent-D for basically no reason other than shock value, and Voyager's unprofessional staff structure and shit-tier writing staff, Star Trek was doomed.. but that isn't to say we could have gotten a lot more before the franchise inevitably ran out of steam. All good things indeed do come to an end. Perhaps there's still a new trek out there waiting in the Platonic heaven of ideas, but like others have said, we won't be seeing it anytime soon. Media has to evolve back into something that could accommodate trek, right now it's too stupid and shallow, because that is what the viewers have largely become.

I'm thankful for what we got, almost 40 years of quality, something like a solid month's worth of screentime. Trek inspired the flip-phone, the smart-phone, tablets, and plenty of other inventions. Perhaps many of these things have been a double-edged sword, but it is undeniable that Trek helped shape the modern world. Furthermore, it's amazing that it managed to outlive its creator by a solid decade before falling apart, without really losing his vision. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here when I say that Star Trek had a positive effect on my life, and making newer and ever-more shitty treks doesn't take that away, it just calcifies the memories more and makes those wonderful halcyon days where you could tune in to watch a new episode of star trek seem impossibly far away, shrouded by the mists of time.

Pic is Pluto. We launched this probe around when Nemesis came out, when Pluto was still a planet and there was still some underlying impetus to explore the solar system, it took a solid decade to get to that frozen pebble, and for the first time we laid eyes upon that world which had been a mystery for my entire life. I wonder if we would have ever gotten so far without the vision Gene Roddenberry accidentally created when he tried to make a cheesy space western ripoff of Lost Planet. I think without Star Trek, mankind would have never reached so far. And if we fail to ever reach further, so be it. Dammit we tried, and better to try and to fail than to resign ourselves to the inevitable. And it's my hope that the fire of exploration, the thirst for discovery will yet deliver us to new worlds and to seek out other civilizations. And even if it becomes a forgotten footnote, Star Trek will have been the impetus.

Elevator pitch

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- Thu, 27 Feb 2020 21:11:01 EST OHlds1Vj No.69792
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You're in a elevator alone with... I don't know someone important at CBS who can make things happen.

Whats your pitch for a new Star Trek series?
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Corporal F Hawkins - Mon, 25 May 2020 17:46:14 EST jwjJ078M No.70298 Reply
Let's follow the other two as well. I want to see the 20th century investor meet the Ferengi.
Duras - Mon, 25 May 2020 17:53:55 EST bOlOhkyn No.70299 Reply
the only Hyuuman to get a bar mitzv-uhhh totally original Ferengi ritual
Nyota Uhura - Mon, 25 May 2020 20:22:14 EST jwjJ078M No.70300 Reply
Better yet have him and Quark unite to undo the Rom-induced fuckery that DS9 felt necessary to introduce.


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- Sat, 29 Feb 2020 16:49:39 EST 5fAx+yeY No.69816
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the only reason i am okay with cg aliens in trek if they are from another dimension so its unnatural to us
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Kessick - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 23:40:51 EST 5JbUjm26 No.69821 Reply
it makes sense if you want more than a human with face paint. TAS writers liked how much freedom they had in the alien life they could represent simply because it was an animated show. Unless you want to shell out the big bucks for Jim "prepare for starburst" Henson.
justin bryant - Sun, 24 May 2020 16:21:58 EST O5TH/FRY No.70292 Reply
>>the biosphere metrics of the sytstem creates what natrualltlity is to the pure it creatges beautiful
Tekeny Ghemor - Sun, 24 May 2020 16:44:56 EST bOlOhkyn No.70293 Reply
>another dimension
this really was a nice way to handwave why they look so fucking not real, Gene would have been proud

And fuck Braga, too.

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- Thu, 21 May 2020 19:00:50 EST tSZm0+51 No.70281
File: 1590102050571.png -(108415B / 105.87KB, 292x356) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. And fuck Braga, too.
So I'm reading Ronald D. Moore's post-Voyager interview for the first and I just got to this part:

>Because if you go back before Kirk, and you start screwing around, and you just don’t care what NEXT GEN or DS9 or VOYAGER established, or the movies, or even the original series, you just try to make it up as you go along, I think you just lost everyone. The whole franchise will just collapse, because it will have no validity whatsoever. If you are going to go there, you really better be prepared to truly put on the STAR TREK mantle and be the keeper of the flame. I think that is really hard for Rick and Brannon. It’s hard for them to do that, because they don’t like the original show. Let’s not mince words. They don’t like the original show. They have never liked the original show. They’ll bob and weave a bit here and there in public. But they don’t like it; they don’t want to have anything to do with it. If you are going to go before the original series and do something, you better have a change of attitude. You better have an epiphany about how much you love the original series. It’s all going to be about leading up to that.

Well, goddamn. That explains a lot.

It's an amazing read. He dissects Voyager and goes over everything wrong with it and with Berman/Braga's decisions with a writer's eye.
Guinan - Sun, 24 May 2020 03:38:13 EST b048m/L8 No.70288 Reply
Didn't read the entire thing, but about 80-90% of it, and I gotta say I agree with your post, it explains a lot. I still stand by my opinion that Voyager killed the franchise.
Ambassador Thoris - Sun, 24 May 2020 04:33:18 EST T4gKS20Z No.70290 Reply
>>71364 I don't have any god damn shelves in my house so I just keep my books on a table.

Things I would like to see in the Picard series

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!cyBOrG7t12 - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 17:49:29 EST KA3qn+7B No.67980
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ITT: We shit-talk Star Trek: Picard and the current state of Trek

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B'Elanna Torres - Fri, 15 May 2020 11:50:38 EST pyyl83GW No.70231 Reply
They seem to have a girl with issues as cannon now. It's her in Picard and Sylvia the redhead in STD. It could be the reflection with girl teenagers as a major audience, Rey, Star Wars.
Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Fri, 15 May 2020 20:10:11 EST uoN3psB2 No.70233 Reply
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Oh man, this would have been too perfect. And yet, probably so "obscure" that normies wouldn't have understood it...

I think the biggest problem with her is that she seemed to have dual, conflicting roles. Sometimes she's she sassy action girl. Sometimes a more motherly figure. Had it been just the latter, I wouldn't have had any issues with her.

>girl with issues as cannon now.
>It's her in Picard and Sylvia the redhead in STD
Doctor Blondie also seemed to have dual roles. She was both naïve and inexperienced - yet also a brilliant scientist, top of her field. Again, I think they should have gone with just the latter - or maybe cast someone younger, and stick with the former?

Anyway. Why I really came back here, is this new annoucement:
>Star Trek: Strange New Worlds - New Star Trek Series To Follow Captain Pike, Spock, and Number One
What is this even? A STD spin-off, or something? I never watched even the first season, but did they finally understand that nobody likes Michael Burnam and all the rest?
Guinan - Wed, 20 May 2020 00:49:16 EST LNOdPH0z No.70264 Reply
>What is this even? A STD spin-off, or something? I never watched even the first season, but did they finally understand that nobody likes Michael Burnam and all the rest?

Maybe. From what I hear, they sent Burnham to the future. And while that does get them away from ruining established canon, it unfortunately means that even if this new Pike series is the best one ever (I'm skeptical) it means that the far future is doomed.

Anyone wanna take bets on if they completely hand wave the 29th centurytimefleet and 30th (31st?) century temporal cold war, or will they devote a couple of lines of exposition as to why the future hasn't changed in 700 fucking years.

The inevitable creep of reality making the universe of Star Trek more and more unreal

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- Sat, 28 Dec 2019 14:40:46 EST 4kTvvHfk No.69309
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How exactly does Star Trek's timeline in the continuity deal with the world they came from being so different from ours? Have they actively explained the timeline disparity, or are they all just hoping no one noticed that there was no Eugenics War in the 1990s and time travel back to then isn't showing it at all anymore?
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Seskal - Wed, 29 Apr 2020 21:32:45 EST LNOdPH0z No.70145 Reply

I was thinking about this today. I'm starting to think the Star Trek timeline was able to become post-racial would be just as much the result of shared tragedy after millions (billions?) dead in WWIII and the post-atomic horror as the result of finding out that there is extra-terrestrial life.

For a long time I wondered who Zephram Cochrane was planning to sell his warp engine to in First Contact. And now I think I understand he was living on an Earth where people would have paid out the nose for the chance to go to another planet in their lifetime.
Pah-wraith - Fri, 15 May 2020 03:52:29 EST p0OfIDyv No.70230 Reply
The eugenics war was kept silent, referred to only as psychiatry, the system that the WHO and CDC use to sort people.

Star Trek accuracy

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- Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:46:40 EST ew+1i6C5 No.69379
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This episode aired January 2nd 1995

I am currently homeless, sleeping in my car.

I don't think I've ever felt Star Trek hit so close to reality than this episode.
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Mordoc - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 00:51:44 EST 5SVJcPG+ No.69949 Reply
>and lol you paid enough attention to voyager to know how a kazok acts
Its not like they are particularly deep characters and this is a Star Trek board after all.

i dont understand

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- Sun, 17 May 2020 23:53:57 EST OK1C8MXL No.70251
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was her character supposed to be annoying?
Lursa - Mon, 18 May 2020 05:06:35 EST Sipr6zz7 No.70254 Reply
No. She was actually supposed to be developed into a main character but it didn't happen. They kept bringing her back but she never became more than a distraction to remind everyone that hey helpless civilians live here too.

Bump When Watching V - The Final Frontier

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- Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:54:08 EST bOlOhkyn No.69497
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places to watch right now free on cytube

at the moment watching
Profit Motive - the one that's a riff on the backstage anxieties about All Good Things up for an Emmy or something and also an unused premise for a Taxi story where Louie's mentor in being a scumbag came back to visit and was all nice
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Ensign Herbert - Fri, 01 May 2020 17:26:37 EST 7xR03KD6 No.70166 Reply
God, you can see where the Kelvin Timeline got their influence.
Mobara - Thu, 07 May 2020 22:48:04 EST bOlOhkyn No.70192 Reply
TOS on Quarks
Space Seed and Taste of Armageddon
love Kirk's speech at the end of Taste of Armageddon about Hi my name is James and I'm a kill-a-holic


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- Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:56:48 EST NMSu3qNk No.70132
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The fuck was his problem?
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Ensign Hogan - Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:33:31 EST nldWS06A No.70154 Reply

Alright, Bucko, Im willing to entertain the idea, BUT maybe some examples/sources for that so people know it is actually a thing in ST proper and not just some extended universe, non-canonical John DeLancie's fever dream?
Neelix - Sun, 17 May 2020 14:39:37 EST yGPwv2Sr No.70247 Reply
He mimics the qualities of the lifeforms he presents himself to

Happy Arbour Day.

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- Sun, 22 Jul 2018 00:15:44 EST e2Juqy0R No.65279
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Epic first thread stopped bumping so...

The Comic-con trailer for season 2 is up.


>The Orville season 2 kicks off with a two hour season premiere on December 30 at 8pm EDT on Fox.

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Commander Sela - Sun, 17 May 2020 02:15:04 EST v/mIhHdg No.70240 Reply
It's watchable when Seth isn't trying to force his godawful sense of humor into the script. All other times, avoid. I doubt this board would be hyping it so much if Star Trek produced anything worth a damn these days.
Prophet - Sun, 17 May 2020 06:51:26 EST jwjJ078M No.70244 Reply
I find the humour fairly enjoyable outside of a couple of really bad early episodes. Reminds me a bit of TOS's humour those obviously more emphasised. Unless you meant specifically when it's Seth's type of humour instead of the comedy in general.

Full enthusiastic pimp cringe

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- Sun, 17 May 2020 03:49:41 EST nldWS06A No.70242
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Give in to the dark side of the space soap opera.
DaiMon Torrot - Sun, 17 May 2020 20:30:53 EST DUiG+e4s No.70249 Reply
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Headcanon General

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- Fri, 04 May 2018 06:08:26 EST b048m/L8 No.64475
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Here will be a spoiler-rich thread. Beware, ye who haven't watched all the Trek yet..
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Kirayoshi O'Brien - Thu, 14 May 2020 06:02:59 EST jwjJ078M No.70222 Reply
>then Bashir got with Potato, that's why they're always in the holosuites
That sounds too much like a happy ending for O'Brien to be true.
Arne Darvin - Thu, 14 May 2020 09:08:32 EST BnrdIjvE No.70224 Reply
He moved away though. Even Molly knew her father's feelings.

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