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Why do they wear red during surgery?

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- Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:31:51 EST NKbp9bcJ No.71647
File: 1632263511349.jpg -(1265338B / 1.21MB, 2560x1440) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why do they wear red during surgery?
In TNG and DS9 both, we see major surgies in which the doctors and nurses wear different outfits.. but the problem is, these surgical gowns are red. That might be perfect if you are operating on a Vulcan or Andorian, whose blood is green and blue respectively, but when it comes to humans, you have everyone, doctors, nurses, patients, all in red. In real life they use white for a reason, because if any unexpected blood starts spurting (usually indicating an issue) you know where it is coming from. But when everyone is wearing red, you arent gonna see shit until they've bleed completely out. Always pissed me off. Why the FUCK did they do this?
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Malik - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 01:43:46 EST URTx/UlS No.71654 Reply
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I'm pretty sure the production reason is that someone was a fan of Dead Ringers. In universe it might be a cultural thing.
Gul Darhe'el - Thu, 21 Oct 2021 01:23:43 EST gWYPlmMZ No.71746 Reply
So you can't tell how bloody you are. Works for humans only. Haha

Cetaceans in starfleet & more

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- Tue, 28 Sep 2021 22:47:53 EST Q2kNCvhp No.71679
File: 1632883673601.jpg -(97881B / 95.59KB, 1200x680) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Cetaceans in starfleet & more
In Star Trek IV, humpback whales are shown to be intelligent/sentient/sapient creatures just like any human.

In the episode Yesterday's Enterprise, the loudspeaker asks an ensign to report to "Cetacean Ops"
What is Cetacean Ops? Well, according to the Enterprise guidebook, cetacean scientists were crucial in designing navigational computers because of their 4-d environment (the open sea) compared to that of humanoids. So there are whales/dolphins serving in starfleet.

So...are humpbacks represented in the federation by the Human Earth president, or by some other entity?

And are there equivalents to cetaceans in other worlds, like Vulcan? Were they seeded in the galaxy by some equivalent to the Ancient Humanoid?

And as for the Borg, would they assimilate cetaceans in their quest for perfection?

Post any information or speculation concerning whales/dolphins below.
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Gantt - Sat, 09 Oct 2021 22:11:27 EST TTcXb8JG No.71707 Reply
I've always assumed the opposite: Starfleet tried to make sure there's a decently high attrition rate to prevent more people becoming insane admirals through senority. That's why consoles are rigged to explode at the slightest encounter.
Kazago - Tue, 12 Oct 2021 01:57:48 EST cgAIFuCD No.71712 Reply
I remember an episode from original trek they had a computer that could vastly improve combat performance. Flaws/Couldn't disconnect from it. The maneuvers required at high speed combat they would have to leave it up to the computer.
They had Voyagers doctor transport across to that test ship. Maybe A.I with holograms and injections of human orders from a distance on a cue pool to the A.I would make the best defence without any human loss.
If it was a diplomatic mission then they can have people on board, otherwise first contact could be marked out before initial contact.

Best ep

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- Thu, 02 Jan 2020 17:46:21 EST 5JbUjm26 No.69322
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For each series

TNG - Frame of Mind
DS9 - Pale Moonlight
Voy - The one where nelix dies
TOS - Balance of Terror
TAS - The Jihad
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Thalen - Tue, 05 Oct 2021 14:16:34 EST 5AFz60PK No.71698 Reply
when you have sex with a betazoid they can feel your orgasm and it always triggers their own orgasm at the exact same time. thats how it works in my head canon i decided. thankyou for reading
Kai Opaka - Tue, 05 Oct 2021 16:12:08 EST fQT/UJlg No.71700 Reply
Maybe the Enterprise-D she was getting was so good it jumpstarted her dried up ovaries.

TNG appreciation thread

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- Mon, 07 Sep 2020 23:56:20 EST O02P7RYT No.70700
File: 1599537380032.gif -(3402472B / 3.24MB, 360x270) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. TNG appreciation thread
Circling back through old trek I finally got around to watching TNG. I set it aside as I have seen it more than any others and it feels so damn good to revisit it. Pick any ep S3-6 and you will probably get a good one. Shit just keeps hitting you one after the other. Truly refreshing after all this Nu-Trek and after a freshly ditched VOY run.

Discuss TNG below.
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Guinan - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 15:11:15 EST NKbp9bcJ No.71667 Reply
Home Soil and The Neutral Zone are both legitimately good episodes, and there's a few others that are decent and watchable but kind of hammy, like Where No One Has Gone Before
Commander Dolim - Sat, 25 Sep 2021 16:41:41 EST XsekyLd5 No.71668 Reply
I can't say I hate it. I just wish the Klingons could be taken a bit more seriously. I feel like between the Cardies, the Roms, and the Doms, the Klingons have become kind of a joke.
Syrran - Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:41:12 EST TTcXb8JG No.71683 Reply
>And the things that separate oldschool Klingons, the unsentimental no-fun-allowed focus on victory at all costs, that shit's cool. And the features that distinguish new Klingons, their savage bent and their extreme personal pride, that shit's cool too. I don't want to give up either of those things, I want them to both exist in the same world.
I think both can co-exist as an explanation of how the Klingons reacted once expansion wasn't always an option. When you can't always be guaranteed a war you double down on your identity as a warrior by making it the only thing you are which is TNG Klingons where before in TOS they had the expansionism to allow them to earn glory in other ways. Klingons are a long-lived species so for the TNG+ era warriors it must have been depressing to have to live with the TOS era heroes while you can't earn glory unless you get lucky and stumble into pirates. Sort of how the west has been since WW2/the early Cold War.

I forgot to mention it but I'm pretty sure ENT tried to explain that Klingons used to value other careers like lawyers and scientists but it's been declining which makes sense.

>I really felt Worf's frustration when he's trying to fight a fucking war and all the "real" Klingons are too busy getting drunk and fighting in bars.
Most Klingons haven't had a chance to 'really' fight between TOS (or the time of the Enterprise C at the latest) and the Cardassian/Dominion War. It makes sense they channel their frustration into the surface level aspects of warrior culture. It's like how modern men who are insecure about their sense of masculinity (can't be the main earner and so on) channel it into overly groomed beards, excessive drug use or beating their wives.


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- Tue, 07 Sep 2021 11:25:37 EST TDVrLbip No.71562
File: 1631028337200.jpg -(122992B / 120.11KB, 1050x722) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. discord?
Been occupied with work for quite a while, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what happened to the 1701 discord?
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G'Quan - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 23:09:58 EST 5SVJcPG+ No.71581 Reply
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Pic related are the only channels I can see on the 420chan discord. I know 1701 was there but I haven't seen it in a while.

Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Tue, 14 Sep 2021 00:36:40 EST YjjRTubX No.71582 Reply
I meant the baked discord, on the /1701/tube page.
I believe 420chan's discord is still requiring a rank of 20 to see the board channels so they probably disappeared for you after one of the times that the ranks got reset.

RIP Yaphit

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- Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:17:20 EST NKbp9bcJ No.71584
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Norm Macdonald died of cancer that he had been fighting secretly for a decade
Feels sad man
What the hell are they gonna do on Orville?
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G'Quan - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 21:27:27 EST 5SVJcPG+ No.71623 Reply
Chiggs its from Sci-Fi Summit 2021same as this quote here >>71618 about extended runtimes like 10 seconds after that they say very likely February.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 01:30:40 EST VM9D9/sY No.71624 Reply
Ah gotcha. that's gonna be like almost 3 years since season 2.
Guinan - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:34:12 EST NKbp9bcJ No.71627 Reply
The inside scoop
Its like being best friends with a Yridian

Bad Bag?

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- Wed, 15 Sep 2021 21:14:59 EST bsbn0tbT No.71590
File: 1631754899593.jpg -(85504B / 83.50KB, 576x768) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Bad Bag?
Four days ago I copped some stuff that was pretty good. Surprisingly didn't make me nauseous at and was a genuinely pleasant experience. I had a baggy set aside and cracked it out today. The shot went smooth and all, but here I am nearly 4 hours later feeling all kinds of odd.

I've got an uncomfortable nod going and have been throwing up chunks of my breakfast burger and a terrible nauseous feeling that started with burps and has an air distended feeling in my upper abdomen. My heartburn is really intense, and I also have this really bad heartburn and airy feeling near my left pectoral.

If it were just stomach it would be one thing, buy I feel almost disassociative feeling and some kind of panic attack where I can't seem to rationalize it as opiod gas but instead am worried it's a heart attack. It's been going on for hours and I know this isn't the case, but I've gotten panic attacks from weed before with similar symptoms but never from opiates.

I was even shaking earlier though uts since ceased and is only the weird panic and throwing up.

Did I get a bad bag?
Is it cotton fever?
Did I hit the wrong vein somehow?
Did the dope go bad from being in my hot car for 4 days?

Has anybody else had similar symptoms before that can help set me at ease or direct me to a quick fix? I'm hoping it'll cease when the opiates wear out, but damn is this an uncomfortable waste of what should have been a good night

RIP Yaphit

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- Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:17:20 EST NKbp9bcJ No.71585
File: 1631722640510.jpg -(303576B / 296.46KB, 1403x561) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. RIP Yaphit
Norm Macdonald died of cancer that he had been fighting secretly for a decade
Feels sad man
What the hell are they gonna do on Orville?

Jake sisko hate thread

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- Mon, 17 Feb 2020 08:51:10 EST 5fAx+yeY No.69655
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Gaila - Thu, 26 Aug 2021 02:04:34 EST O02P7RYT No.71535 Reply
Don't act like you pedos didn't keep rascals up for 4 years.
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Michael Jonas - Thu, 26 Aug 2021 05:20:42 EST TTcXb8JG No.71536 Reply
>Worker co-ops are more profitable than traditional corporate enterprises of the same size
Is this true for all sizes?
>and strong worker protections and organizations also correlate with increased profitability.
For the service industry and highly skilled/high end development and manufacturing yes, which is all the West has left and thus is where most research is focussed. For unskilled manufacturing and grunt work like Amazon Warehouses very much no. Not that I'm saying that's acceptable but moving a factory to China and fucking over both your employees and the local environment cuts costs like mad even before you account for the difference in expected wages. The quality loss is acceptable when targeting the mass market and the quality gain from manufacturing with a well treated workforce is irrelevant since the market for high tier goods does not scale.
DaiMon Solok - Tue, 31 Aug 2021 10:59:02 EST EZtL2VTb No.71543 Reply
The Spanish mondragon corporation takes exceptional care of its employees and is very profitable, and then there is the example of the German auto industry and the concessions made to their industrial workers. I really doubt the Federation has much need for a highly exploited workforce of warehouse workers.

It's also very apparent that the Ferengi business empire would benefit not only from the sort of Communist ideas that Grand Nagus Rom (profits be upon him) have been influenced by but even liberal reforms such as mandatory public education and female rights. The Ferengi are hamstringing themselves because of their backwards, inefficient, and worst of all, unprofitable culture by leaving so much Ferengi capital undeveloped in excluding females from the job market and having an uneducated workforce. If that lobeless damon that kidnapped Lwaxana didn't have a ship full of idiots, Riker wouldn't have escaped and he could have profited from the beautiful Lwaxana's telepathy, at the very least.

In any event, Grand Nagus Rom ($pbuh$) is surely set to not only revolutionize Ferengi society but usher in a golden age of quarter over quarter profitability, guided by the one true profit, Karl Marx (pbuh).

harry kim is a bitch

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- Mon, 19 Jul 2021 00:34:51 EST TqFUqa2z No.71453
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harry Kim is a bitch for not nailing Seven of Nine when she first showed up
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Ensign McFarlane - Mon, 09 Aug 2021 21:02:05 EST pMSSiQ3e No.71484 Reply
Honestly, I would probably avoid fucking Seven, too. I am not trying to get my dick assimilated.
Erika Benteen - Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:48:01 EST fQT/UJlg No.71530 Reply
Do you think her titty milk has nanoprobes in it?
DaiMon Solok - Tue, 31 Aug 2021 10:40:58 EST EZtL2VTb No.71542 Reply
I always wondered why the borg let her keep her huge tits in the first place and now I have the answer


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- Wed, 10 Mar 2021 01:05:55 EST FYC72bgu No.71263
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Rewatching - S01E05 - Phage - and Neelix is stuck staring at the ceiling and he asked the brand-new cranky-to-be-alive doctor

"Are you programmed to sing?"

in what turns out to be the most epic of foreshadowing for Picardo's character X-D

picture related, the look on his face

clipped out the scene

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Guinan - Fri, 27 Aug 2021 10:30:51 EST NKbp9bcJ No.71538 Reply

So the Federation's top expert on holographic design has an important project that affects the future of the Quadrant and he just copy/pastes his own abrasive personality into it without even editting out the parts that would inhibit its function?

What was the Dominion afraid of again? They should have been much less cautious
Dr. Lewis Zimmerman - Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:44:51 EST TTcXb8JG No.71539 Reply
>So the Federation's top expert on holographic design has an important project that affects the future of the Quadrant and he just copy/pastes his own abrasive personality into it without even editting out the parts that would inhibit its function?
More likely nobody really supervised him or considered the idea of a hologram having a serious personality that would be realistic enough to cause a problem. Even if it did you could just edit the program live per-ship since that's how the holodeck works. For what it's worth the EMH on Voyager was almost like an early field trial and it was stated in later episodes that they'd had to make a Mk II and III etc to handle the personality issues.
DaiMon Solok - Tue, 31 Aug 2021 10:38:19 EST EZtL2VTb No.71541 Reply
>Its not like they programmed each trait individually
That seems like a real oversight

Truth about William Shatner

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- Fri, 24 Jan 2020 20:07:10 EST pOubqj3g No.69446
File: 1579914430989.jpg -(6045B / 5.90KB, 194x259) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Truth about William Shatner
Was/is he really as much as an asshole as Takei and the rest of the cast say? Or is Takei just seething over Shatner given more opportunities then he is (Which makes sense considering he was the captain of the show.) Someone give me the rundown on Shatner.
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Persis - Sun, 22 Aug 2021 14:51:56 EST LsJm3gxk No.71524 Reply
The original show was only 3 seasons, they pushed it out the door, no time and nobody was famous. Of course everyone thinks small of each other back then.
Geordi La Forge - Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:28:10 EST 2nWyXWXa No.71526 Reply
Probably. He kind of still seems like a dick.


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- Wed, 11 Aug 2021 20:06:33 EST y3s/MVLY No.71498
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Theres a lot of time travel plots in trek. A whole lot.

And I think, because of them, I have come to really think that time travel is impossible and time is not a dimension. Why? Because time travel plots tend to be the weakest written and, when taken as a whole, they repressent the weakest and most cancerous part of trek. Sure there are fun and well-presented plots, but for every one of those there are 2 or 3 "Time's Orphan"s waiting in the wings. I mean its the most hand wavy shit and the writers cant even decide on whether time travel takes you to an alternate, parallel universe or whether you have two linked time streams between the future/(series baseline) and the past/(episode current time) a la "The City on the Edge of Forever"

Personally I feel that Enterprise without time travel would have been a much higher quality show.. as much as I like episodes like "Timescape" and "All Good Things.." the fact is those episodes and any others like them (with a time paradox) make ZERO FUCKING SENSE when subjected to critical thinking unless you were just huffing ether or are suffering from hypoxia.
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Belongo - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 03:05:20 EST UWa6RaXX No.71503 Reply
I was working it out, and it's like a funnel to a point. People who can travel in time would only use it for historic information seeking, till in their future they reach a point where they don't need to know about themselves and advanced.
Li Nalas - Thu, 19 Aug 2021 06:59:05 EST LaOiaDX1 No.71521 Reply
I mean that's as a group focus, people in themselves could time travel and still create a cause and effect, for growth or creation.

If it's the group against the group then it's for the future as a whole for the group, which is knowledge.

Hey everyone

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- Mon, 19 Apr 2021 00:14:00 EST zH1NkE/d No.71295
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Could wesley eat a fat fucking dick you think?
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Cmdr. Peter Harkins - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 08:02:46 EST 4M/nX159 No.71459 Reply
I think he did when he sold out for Picard.

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