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So when do the Bell riots start?

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- Wed, 11 Aug 2021 01:23:37 EST iQooFYps No.71495
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Guinan - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 20:25:52 EST y3s/MVLY No.71500 Reply
Ah fuck I was just trying to say I posted the other thread because, in my heart of hearts, as much as I want to make nexus/prophet memes, I just cant really believe in it. But I just made some edibles and after licking the pan.. oof
Douglas Pabst - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 03:13:05 EST O02P7RYT No.71504 Reply
soon if the world governments keep up their shit. already started in some places but it's getting memory holed hard.
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A Coochie Maya

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- Wed, 14 Jul 2021 21:52:05 EST y3s/MVLY No.71446
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We are far from the bones of our ancestors
Blessed be the watchful spirits who protected the servers of 420chan
A cootchie may-a

chipotles spirit animal is a deer obviously, its the only animal he ever has dreams/visions of
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Guinan - Mon, 09 Aug 2021 12:46:54 EST y3s/MVLY No.71479 Reply
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oh hey
Now the site was down for 10 days in a fucking row
This website is not gonna make it to 2022 is it???

I love that there's ZERO explanation on the news page
Tried to check Kirts twitter to see if that would shed some light on things and HOLY SHIT he legitimately might have gone schizophrentic.. hes just screaming crazy bullshit at no one constantly in long multipart threads.

I REALLY worry this site isnt gonna make it much longer
So I just want to express my gratitude to the few of you remaining on this dying board on this dying site about a franchise that's been effectively raped to death by greedy randos who only care about exploiting the IP for its brand recognition.

There has been many a good time had here. Let's hope they arent coming to an end as quickly as it seems.
Guinan - Mon, 09 Aug 2021 12:50:46 EST y3s/MVLY No.71480 Reply
The last news update is from mid 2019
Since then there have been at least 2 times where the site was completely BTFO for more than a week. I've been here for a LOOOONG time and this is unprecedented. Not a good trend.

A Philosophical Question...

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- Wed, 07 Jul 2021 12:14:05 EST y3s/MVLY No.71429
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Kai Winn reveals towards the end of the series that the Prophets have never spoken to her and yet she had to be a fucking nun for the past 50 years in order to get to the top of the bajoran religious pyramid.. she clearly acts like she's devoted to and believes in the prophets. How exactly does someone believe in the prophets so strongly have enough cognitive dissonance to not see that if the prophets wanted her to walk this particular path, they would have spoken to her?

Shoulda followed your D'Jarras
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Greskrendtregk - Fri, 09 Jul 2021 15:23:43 EST O02P7RYT No.71437 Reply
Yeah that's what I was thinking of when I mentioned that weird line they draw. It's like these species are allowed to keep religion so long as they can invent warp drive or in the case of the Trill a subspace radio. Oddly I think who watches the watchers is the only time the federation takes a massive stance against religion. Yes it is mentioned in other places like DS9 but really only in a way that takes issue with Criscos title as emissary. The feds never outright condemn the broke noses religion though that may be on a count of the prophets being real. Of course Picard would have a court battle to prove them to be not gods but life forms. But then in DS9 they end up invoking the name of god in the same way any one today would as a figure of speech. Always bugged me since they were supposed to have moved away from that since religion wasn't a part of normal life for humans in quite a few generations.
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Chell - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:52:33 EST TTcXb8JG No.71442 Reply
Strictly speaking it's not like the Federation demands people drop religion, it's just assumed that it loses its function as a natural part of the technological and cultural evolution of a society.

>Oddly I think who watches the watchers is the only time the federation takes a massive stance against religion.
In the case of the Mintakans there's the concern that the Federation caused the beliefs and that's a prime directive issue but then again you can ask if they'd have been so worried if it was a more minor bit of cultural contamination. Dropping a tricorder or something might have been bad but Picard does seem, in his restrained manner, pretty horrified at the idea they might have caused a renewed set of religious beliefs. It's like the difference between the Federation disapproving but not interfering with a species that has, for example, a belief in its racial is that the right term for species-based ideologies? superiority and their accidentally introducing that belief into the species themselves.
Cmdr. Peter Harkins - Wed, 21 Jul 2021 08:10:56 EST 4M/nX159 No.71461 Reply
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The short answer is she believed but she wanted power. The long answer is look at what people will do for power/money. Hell, I seen one guy take up smoking just to have a cigarette break.

Imagine the freedom of being a religious figure. People revere you, you can move freely between camps. 3 squares and a roof. A lot of people get into the faith in war torn countries to fight off starvation. Some do it for power. Some do it for prestige.

This is controversial, but gods only tend to reflect the speaker. She probably thought she was working the will of the prophets. Unlike our gods, hers actually talk to you. So there's something to confirm she wasn't on the enlightened path. But her walk through faith is all too common. In real life, people like this genuinely think they're being pious. We just have outside sources confirming she isn't in this scenario.


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- Sun, 11 Jul 2021 16:36:54 EST y3s/MVLY No.71438
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I've realized that the most wasted opportunity of Enrerprise, a show of wasted opportunities, was Hoshi
Hear me out.

She wasnt a Starfleet officer, but rather a regular person with a very valuable skill. Because of this she gets dragged along into the dark abyss of space with little to no idea of what to expect. From the audience perspective, she's a relatable everyman. For this reason she should have been more of a central and driving character rather than being delegated to the background. And what should she do? She should be translating! The universal translator shouldn't even exist in Enterprise. At least not until Hoshi invents it.
G'Quan - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 05:42:18 EST 5SVJcPG+ No.71439 Reply
Just someone relegated to obscurity by circumstances. In the Mirror Universe Hoshi was running the show. Sometimes you're an empress sometimes you're a background translator.
Chell - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:46:39 EST TTcXb8JG No.71441 Reply
She fell into the same trap as started with Voyager where the writers only bothered to write for characters they enjoyed/found easy to handle. Except for Mayweather where the actor was so shit it didn't matter either way.

What does it take to get another genuine Star Trek?

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- Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:12:38 EST znSn/m7X No.70925
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God fuck what does it take to get another proper Trek. Fucking christ.

What made the 90s Trek so amazing, and the 60s, is that it was just being TREK. There were some general social, philosophical and spiritual themes, and exploring them is the linchpin of the Star Trek philosophy. Together with a consistent art style with Okudagrams and ship designs and shit, a group of writers/directors who work across multiple shows for years and dedicated actors you can watch nearly any episode between TNG season 3 and VOY/DS9 and just get the same feel. They all have such a universal approach: people making Star Trek. STAR TREK.

Now it's always some ulterior motive with every fucking movie or show, zero-effort shit pandering to shit that sells, being a front for some modern social issue, writers/directors who have no history with Trek and no clue what it's about. You've got the alternate universe movies which are just regurgitated JJ Abrams garbage, it's literally your average sci-fi cinema junk that just happens to be in the style of Star Trek. Picard is lazy as fuck and may have been intended to be genuine, but ends up just pandering to cliches and being lazy with stock photos/stock animations and that kind of shit. Discovery is a load of junk that's made as if they purposely want to piss off anyone who likes Trek.

Why the FUCK can't we have any Trek that's literally just Star Trek. It's being fucking raped, I'd rather have absolutely nothing than all of this uninspired shit that just uses the title "Star Trek" without having anything to do with what it has been for like 40 years. This fucking shit pisses me off so much.

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Lwaxana Troi - Wed, 14 Apr 2021 20:56:01 EST iVFOs8Di No.71288 Reply
Anyone who doesn't like Voyager is a misogynist.
Ambassador Thoris - Mon, 19 Apr 2021 20:30:10 EST rknPKThR No.71298 Reply

I like Voyager just fine. I hate Captain Janeway with a burning passion, and not because of her gender.
Bernardo Calvera - Tue, 06 Jul 2021 02:55:21 EST DznTlomT No.71427 Reply
So since no one is going to bring it up, anyone interested in Q showing up for Season 2?
The 4chan link I read makes it sound horrible. Seems like they are done mining the Data nostalgia so thought they could ride the Q nostalgia next. At least they got rid of Michael Chabon. We are also gonna have Guinan and Geordi possible show up. They already have season 3 lined up, but my cyinacl me says they are just splitting season 2 into two parts.
>With the season order in January 2020, Kurtzman said the writers were confident in this story, but he did not want to lock it down until the first season had begun airing so the creative team could adjust the direction of the season based on the response of fans to the first.
>He added that the story (of season 2) was true to the original ideas of the series and would not be affected by Star Trek fans who criticized the first season for not meeting their expectations. Chabon felt emboldened by the success of the first season to go in some new directions, and said the second season would take advantage of lessons he learned during the making of the first season.
So was season 1 successful or not?
>Chabon rewatched several key episodes of The Next Generation that feature Guinan in preparation for writing new scenes for Goldberg who he called "an amazing actor
oh he rewatched some episodes? That inspires confidence in me.
>Following the first-season finale, Chabon and Goldsman said the second season would not ignore the fact that Picard's consciousness is now in a synthetic body
Looking at the trailer and the 4chan leak, Picard is now in an alternative universe with an organic body again. He will be fighting a fascist Starfleet. Whether this is the "mirror universe" or not I have no idea, so far I've seen like 4 different mirror universes which may or may not be the same.

Ro Laren

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- Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:34:10 EST 01sN76Bj No.71101
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What the fuck was her problem?
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KC Hunter - Wed, 23 Jun 2021 07:58:19 EST hSHxxrKP No.71413 Reply
Michelle Forbes, the actor who played Ro Laren, was too good for Trek. She is the most menacing woman I've seen in film or TV, ever. Bar none. Watch BSG Razor. I wouldn't fuck with Michelle Forbes in real life. She has an intensity that other women just do not have. If anyone here is familiar with the Pander Bros. version of Grendel from the late 80s, Michelle Forbes is the only woman that could play Christine Spar. She has the kind of dangerous intensity that makes Charlize Theron in Monster look like Reese Witherspoon in American Psycho: a subservient bitch. Ro Laren, and the actress who played her, are top shelf badasses.
Gul Ranor - Fri, 25 Jun 2021 08:58:23 EST cTuyxun4 No.71417 Reply
It's unfortunate she never had her big break.

I personally really liked her in Escape From LA, even though her role in that is pretty minor.

Happy Rascals Day you degenerates

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- Fri, 28 May 2021 17:30:36 EST CIonKGA4 No.71377
File: 1622237436563.jpg -(3565280B / 3.40MB, 1252x11504) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Happy Rascals Day you degenerates
I have this saved in my calendar. Every year for nearly a decade now I’ve come back home, to reminisce, catch up with people and so on. It’s been an odd year, and I’ve been lurking over on circlejerk’s r/startrek and r/star_trek. Maybe it’s time to stay here for a bit.
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The Traveler - Fri, 04 Jun 2021 19:29:04 EST CIonKGA4 No.71396 Reply


R/startrek has fully drunk the koolaid and anyone with a dissenting opinion is banhammered. They’re so weird that if you even link to a plinkett review you’re gone. It’s mostly just threads like “I just remembered how much I love [insert character]” or “isn’t it great how STD is getting the franchise going, it’s so exciting and fun to watch”

R/star_trek is mostly jaded angry people who are pissed off with the other sub for not letting them say anything remotely bad about KurtzmanTrek.
Emperor Sompek - Tue, 22 Jun 2021 03:19:13 EST egSVvJnM No.71409 Reply
2012 was a hell of a year

That thread feels like home in so many ways
Guinan - Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:58:36 EST y3s/MVLY No.71410 Reply
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maybe we should surreptitiously encourage them to come here
as much as I dislike rebbit this place could use some fresh blood, especially if they want a place they can freely bitch about the various terrible flavors of nuTrek

Who's the most inconsistent Star Trek character?

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- Mon, 17 May 2021 06:20:05 EST LNOdPH0z No.71355
File: 1621246805359.jpg -(59573B / 58.18KB, 549x454) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Who's the most inconsistent Star Trek character?
Which character do you feel waffles the most in their behavior and convictions over the course of their appearances?

My knee jerk reaction is to say good old captain Insaneway, but there's a few contenders. As much as I love him Spock is inconsistent as fuck, one week he's so Appalled by the career of Khan Noonien Singh he almost becomes emotional in his reaction. A few months later he's stoicly telling Kirk about how bangin' Nazism is for the economy with no sense of judgement. He also doesn't lie, except every time he does. Quark also falls short of being the Ferengi he wishes he was all the time, but that's part of his character arc so it's a little different.

What other characters are the most skitz?
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Michael Rostov - Fri, 21 May 2021 02:11:57 EST O02P7RYT No.71361 Reply
He gets a pass on prime directive insanity since there wasn't one but Bakula has this issue with lurching around like a retard when delivering lines.
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Leskit - Mon, 31 May 2021 10:39:53 EST cTuyxun4 No.71388 Reply
From what I remember of VOY, Chipotle was all over the place
Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Mon, 31 May 2021 15:19:58 EST w8Bn7lAd No.71389 Reply
Yeah, didn't help the guy they brought on to advise on Native American issues was a huge con-artist.

worthless whiny bitch > Jadzia

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- Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:17:48 EST n+05pyOP No.71080
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Yes she was a manic pixie girl, but I'll take worthless whiny bitch over Jadzia, any day, any episode. Jadzia was only interesting as a lady-of-the-lake, unobtainable woman. Half way through S1 you realize that she's devoid of character. She's made of wood, so to speak, and completely uninteresting. worthless whiny bitch was a breath of fresh air, and I don't care that they wrote her too neurotic and too cute. She made things more fun. Deep down, I wish we had gotten worthless whiny bitch sooner, like Season 4ish.
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Lt. Maxwell Burke - Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:21:21 EST O02P7RYT No.71303 Reply
damn, there goes the best post all month.
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Michael Rostov - Fri, 21 May 2021 02:16:47 EST O02P7RYT No.71362 Reply
Jadzia would be a god tier fuck but whiny bitch would cuddle you after, and break less bones too.
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Now that this guy is on the cover for the Netflix listing

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!cyBOrG7t12 - Tue, 11 May 2021 15:26:15 EST ntibuP74 No.71338
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I see him more than I see him in the show and I'm actually able to remember that he exists.
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Dr. Reyga - Thu, 13 May 2021 19:59:14 EST TTcXb8JG No.71347 Reply
Mayweather was supposed to be in the main cast I think, he just turned out to be such a shit actor they reduced his role.
>We all know the only thing Mayweather did was talk to cargo ship people and drive the shuttle.
And hang out upside down in random bits of the ship.
Leonard McCoy - Fri, 14 May 2021 00:13:13 EST PYsyKniy No.71349 Reply
Maybe the people that are putting the screen captions into the Netflix headers aren't Star trek knowledgeable, and where they pull it from could have a variety of differences.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Fri, 14 May 2021 12:08:06 EST vV/P4pvS No.71350 Reply
Yeah dude every line he has is delivered like it's some cheesy school vhs about some dumb lesson.

Cool shot of Kirk

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- Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:51:11 EST f0gK58JF No.71290
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Theres this iconic shot of Kirk looking up at the stars in TOS...Its a really cool shot and I want to use it for a video I am making. Anyone know what episode I am talking about???
Guinan - Fri, 16 Apr 2021 15:50:21 EST D5FtKAF2 No.71291 Reply
Perhaps you could be a little more specific.. is he looking at the stars through a window? ..on a planet? I'll bet we could figure it out with just a little more detail
Subaltern Lorot - Fri, 16 Apr 2021 23:10:02 EST 8xPfolNA No.71293 Reply
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Maybe 'City on the Edge of forever' where kirk says something like we're totally alone and the camera pans up to the stars?


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- Thu, 03 Dec 2020 08:07:51 EST znSn/m7X No.71024
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>brought in as eyecandy
>actually turns out to be a fucking stunning actress

That multiple personality episode from the Borg vinculum, or when the Doctor inhabits her body... Really impressive and convincing shit.

Overall, when you're not really paying attention, you don't really see how much she gives herself to her hole. When you start paying attention you start to see so many little details about her acting in general. It's a shame you don't really see it when you see it on TV or anything but if you've watched the series a bunch of times you start to pick up on it more and more after each rewatch.
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Beverly Crusher - Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:44:29 EST TTcXb8JG No.71230 Reply
>This isn't exactly the best forum for this kind of discussion, but - to be generous, this is unclear. Inaction is just another action, it doesn't shield you from responsibility for the consequences of doing nothing.
Not strictly the same thing: his statement was about breaking an international law/rule/agreement not a moral statement. It might be more moral to act than not, but that doesn't mean it's within the rules not sure if drone strikes are strictly against the Geneva Convention anyway, but I'm guessing they might come under acts of war without a declaration of war due to violating airspace. Of course if you're not making a moral statement and just saying it's self-defence that's a similar case where pros and cons of the action aside it doesn't necessarily prevent the complaint it lies outside of international norms: weaker nations are the ones who lose out when such processes are ignored and are also the ones who would be ostracised at the drop of a hat for doing the same sort of extra-judicial strike.

And then there's the whole issue of drone strikes on people who are not currently armed and whether or not you'd consider it a policing operation (would you tolerate domestic terrorists being blown up without warning when not currently a direct threat?, require a judge to sign off on it? and so on).
neelix - Thu, 11 Mar 2021 08:05:15 EST 5X1osiRt No.71266 Reply

>acts of war without a declaration of war

I don't think this is particularly important, but a declaration of war seems to be a thing of the past, because of the associated downsides for the declarator. Besides, I'd guess that a declaration of war on an organisation without any formal control of any state might be murky.

I'm definitely not blind to the ethical issues associated with drone strikes, I'd just like to at least make the point that the situation is complicated. Giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, and - for the sake of argument - speaking to an imagined representative situation, you would assume he would act in response to credible intelligence about a known terrorist cell. If you were him in this situation, you would need to choose between having boots on the ground, a remote "precision" missile attack, or inaction, The "boots on the ground" option is pretty clearly terrible, and likely to lead to more innocent civilian deaths than a precision missile strike, as well as the potential for politically costly American soldier deaths. Given regular attacks on the muslim minority group, you could be fairly certain that inaction would likely lead to a large number of innocent civilian deaths. Given this information, a drone strike seems like a good idea.
neelix - Thu, 11 Mar 2021 08:10:06 EST 5X1osiRt No.71267 Reply

Note that this doesn't mean that the decision to use drone strikes was the best option. The point is that, given the available intelligence to Obama at the time, it wasn't necessarily a malicious or self-serving option.

Also note that this is a generalised argument that doesn't capture the intricacies of each unique situation and associated military action.

Deep Six 9

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- Sun, 07 Mar 2021 15:30:48 EST /PqsCu0P No.71260
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Your P'ah is strong, child!
Emperor Sompek - Wed, 10 Mar 2021 03:01:15 EST O02P7RYT No.71264 Reply
>the sword of stars
>the three vipers
>peer through the temple gates
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RIP General Chang

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!lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 09 Feb 2021 09:56:40 EST 6VRfFpRP No.71214
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>Legendary actor Christopher Plummer passed away at age 91. According to reports, the Oscar, Tony, and Emmy winner died peacefully today at his home in Connecticut. In addition to his many roles over seven decades, Trek fans remember Plummer as Klingon General Chang in the 1991 film Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and the video game Star Trek: Klingon Academy.

Plummer was one of the best actors of his generation so how would he rank amongst Star Trek villains?
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