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The Orville by Weyoun 5 - Tue, 16 May 2017 12:51:11 EST ID:0JMozmZI No.59221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Uh, guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9sKeCE8V0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orville
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Persis - Tue, 16 May 2017 12:54:03 EST ID:Mw2ViAbq No.59222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>episodes directed by Braga and Frakes

>slick visuals

>essentially stealing Galaxy Quest stealing TOS

nb
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B'Etor - Tue, 16 May 2017 13:43:15 EST ID:WVrpSik6 No.59223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Seth MacFarlane

Into the trash it goes.
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Captain Rudolph Ransom - Tue, 16 May 2017 14:55:49 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I saw this yesterday and I love how this pile of garbage can get produced without any fucking issues but it has to be a massive ordeal just to get some real star trek.
Fuck this, to quote Vic "It looks like Galaxy Quest made by retards"
It looks horrible.

That being said I will watch it just in case it has any merit.
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Burt Ryan - Tue, 16 May 2017 15:40:33 EST ID:n8McU5oH No.59226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
YOU THINK DAAATS BAD
REMEMBER THAT TIME ON THE PLANET OF THE [thing]
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Jimmy - Tue, 16 May 2017 16:52:19 EST ID:afOfMV10 No.59227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
other than the awkward as smeg pissing joke

those jokes weren't too bad, about what you'd expect from the rejects crew
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Admiral Alidar Jarok - Tue, 16 May 2017 19:51:21 EST ID:YX6hX83Z No.59231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Damn it. I want to hate this but I'll probably still watch a few episodes.
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Kayron - Tue, 16 May 2017 20:23:17 EST ID:U9OytMf9 No.59232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59223
>>59224
>>59226
>>59227
>>59231

like Captain Ransom said, I am just mad that this seems like it took them all of 8 months to bang out and it looks good. It will be a fox comedy so it will have poop jokes.

I don't really care. I have said before that Star Trek (while I love it) is based on a flawed premise and cannot be done as a straight drama anymore. Funny foreheads do not work. Making the Klingons into the real world ethnicity of the week devalues the real world ethnicity...

blah blah blah I don't hate it.
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Captain Rixx - Wed, 17 May 2017 00:53:29 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
The thing of it is, as cringe-worthy as the humor looks, and as painfully stale as MacFarlane's comedic shtick is at this point, there are more than a few things in this trailer that seem like genuine, well produced (if silly) science fiction. Maybe this will be America's Red Dwarf? More than a few times on his two shows MacFarlane has tried to make complex plots, or pull of sci-fi storylines, and they're often more interesting than the jokes. This could actually be great.
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Enabran Tain - Wed, 17 May 2017 01:34:52 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59237
Also, Seth Mcfarlane was obviously a trekkie, or at least very familiar with Trek. He appeared in ENT and he has made quite a few Trek skits in Family Guy that were pretty funny actually. So it may actually be good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqpRdZsBX70
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Captain Rixx - Wed, 17 May 2017 03:01:36 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59238
Oh, he's a Trekkie to be sure...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7Us5SVpoM
You don't bring the entire cast of a vaguely remembered '90s sci-fi show on for an entire episode of your third longest running cartoon sitcom in TV history unless you are a hopeless fanboy
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Liquidator Brunt - Wed, 17 May 2017 03:40:23 EST ID:NNu0rHAt No.59240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59239
>vaguely remembered
u wot m8
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Koloth - Wed, 17 May 2017 05:13:51 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.59241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59232
It's because of the general attitude. Everyone banged on about forehead aliens so long that people now believe it. But in reality, actors are still human beings, and if you want them to emote, you have to have their faces visible. It's either rubber forehead aliens, or full-on, expensive effects with very little go-between. It's more the modern edgy attitude that dooms Trek than the premise of Trek being flawed.

After all, no-one had trouble with human-as-fuck aliens in JJTrek, to the point where they turned a species that was added to TAS *specifically* to take advantage of technology and be non-human into a human with weird ears and a tail.

Similarly, the races were always standins for humanity. Not human cultures, because that's lazy as fuck, but traits of humanity. Any war-like society with an external system of honor resembles the Klingons, and any fascist society resembles the Cardassians.

But am I pissed that a Trek parody, decades after the fact, is getting the go-ahead while Trek as a property languishes in the hands of incompetent buffoons? Yes. Yes, I am.
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Kayron - Wed, 17 May 2017 09:33:57 EST ID:U9OytMf9 No.59243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>CASSIDY
>MOTHERFUCKIN
>YATES

Penny Johnson Jerald in the hooooooooouzzzzzzzzzzz
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Stonn - Wed, 17 May 2017 11:26:08 EST ID:n8McU5oH No.59247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59243
oh shit Cassidy Yates is DekaGreen
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Captain Rixx - Wed, 17 May 2017 17:04:41 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59240
By the general TV viewing public, yes. By the TV executives MacFarlane would have had to convince to run his episode, yes. 'Uhm, that was the show with Professor Xavier and the yellow robot, right?' It's sad but true, not everyone thinks about Star Trek the way Trekkies do.
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Subcommander Velal - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:06:25 EST ID:OlAq4NOE No.59294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The thing with Seth Macfarlane is he knows exactly what he does and doesn't pretend he's doing anything right. When he makes a poop joke it's fully intentional. I wanted him to do Trek because I'm certain he can be completely serious and hell bent on writing good stories. It sucks he gets shoved to the side so special effects and enemy-of-the-damn-minute attention span idiots will pay out. Now we're stuck in development hell with the new series, which no doubt will get screwed over like every mainstream sci-fi has been.

I'm wondering when Fox will get sued over it, because Seth was explicitly requested to direct when they were looking for directors of the new Trek.
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Subcommander Velal - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:18:25 EST ID:OlAq4NOE No.59296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59294
he explicitly requested* iirc
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Minuet - Fri, 19 May 2017 00:49:37 EST ID:hFMlYppe No.59300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59257
I think you may be counter-balancing too hard. Take a look at something like this: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/24/arts/television-profits-reruns-and-the-end-of-next-generation.html?pagewanted=all .

>It quickly became a mammoth hit.
>"To my knowledge, this is the most expensive show produced for television."
>The series finale drew a huge 17.4 rating, which translates into more than 31 million viewers. If it had been a network show, it would have ranked second for the week, right between "Home Improvement" and "Seinfeld."

Or perhaps http://ew.com/article/1994/05/06/star-trek-next-generation-readies-last-episode/ :

>Next Generation has been a warp-propelled profit machine from the start-and is still the highest-rated syndicated drama in the history of television, with 15 to 20 million viewers a week.

In my experience, it's about as culturally prevalent as James Bond. Most people have seen a few episodes, and just about everyone knows the general themes involved. The average man on the street might give you a blank look if you ask him the difference between a Bajoran and a Cardassian, but he probably could give you a decent description of the Borg.
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Kang - Fri, 19 May 2017 03:59:55 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.59303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59300
Yeah, I'd describe only myself and two friends as real "Trekkies". That is to say, hardcore fans. But loads of people I know have watched and liked the show. Even the most normie dudes go weak in the knees when they see Picard.

For fuck's sake, I've been to a con with my mother and sister, and they enjoyed it more than I did. Overall, there's this weird idea that has taken hold that fans don't know what they're talking about, and big money execs are far more aware of what makes good television. It's an attitude that really irks me, to be honest. Yes, fans can be obsessive and wrong. But time and again Trek fans have shown that they know how things work, from spec script writers to McFarlane's new show.

Maybe someone will make a serious show in Trek style, at some point. But we're so caught up in this idea of "serious television for serious people" that a comedy show might just be the only genre lighthearted enough to not treat Trek like yet another super serious show with people glaring at each other the whole time.

I hope this shit outperforms STD.
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DaiMon Bractor - Sun, 21 May 2017 02:14:50 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.59322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59303
I'm still waiting for HBO to get their hands on a show some day.
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Badar N'D'D - Sun, 21 May 2017 19:42:54 EST ID:t5vqWH1q No.59332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221

looks fun.
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Gun Runner Sakonna - Mon, 22 May 2017 00:07:54 EST ID:mQBX4dTo No.59338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It upsets me that when I close my eyes and think of what Star Trek looks like I see The Orville instead of Star Trek: Discovery. The costume designs, ship designs, alien designs and the entire "feel" of the show screams Trek to me, meanwhile Discovery looks like everything I didn't like about NuTrek.

If they tone down McFarlane's particular brand of comedy just a little and throw in some more dramatic stuff now and then, which it looks like it will based on the trailer, then I will at least give it a shot past the first episode
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Admiral William J Ross - Mon, 22 May 2017 23:14:15 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.59364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59338
I just wish MacFarlane didn't stick his ugly fucking mug smack dab in the middle of this.
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Morn - Tue, 23 May 2017 10:17:44 EST ID:2B1e3Uap No.59372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So, I watched the trailer. Hated it.

Then I watched Discovery's trailer. Then I rewatched Orville's trailer.

... God dammit, the parody looks like the show I'd rather watch.
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Kono - Tue, 23 May 2017 22:02:37 EST ID:aGXOTlyw No.59379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59372
The most brilliant move was putting it out at the same time
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Benny Russell - Wed, 24 May 2017 06:12:52 EST ID:Jt8Wk/lF No.59388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59379
I don't think that was intentional. I think it was meant to follow Discovery. Then Discovery kept getting delayed.

I think MacFarlane is a big enough fan of every incarnation of Star Trek that it stands a chance at showing up Discovery as a more faithful interpretation, even if it's done in a very MacFarlane way.

Anyway American Dad is fine and more recently, Blunt Talk has been some top notch stuff, and Macfarlane had the good sense to produce that. He ain't all bad.

What is bad is all the MacFarlane haters who dump on everything MacFarlane even when it's Blunt Talk and it's the entirely the brainchild of Jonathan Ames without Seth's creative input. Family Guy hate is legit, MacFarlane hate is bullshit.
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Roy Ritterhouse - Wed, 24 May 2017 15:42:53 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59388
I didn't know he had his fingers in Blunt Talk. I really need to get around to watching that...

To be fair, people wouldn't blindly hate MacFarlane as a meme now if people didn't blindly love Family Guy as a meme 10 years ago. It's just the cycle of cultural revenge.
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Subcommander T'Rul - Wed, 24 May 2017 16:17:56 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.59395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59388
Idk man the timing seems impeccable. I bet he has the draw to whip something like this up really quickly, and it would be brilliant of Fox to catch wind of troubles with CBS's trek and if they were to have asked him I doubt he would have been able to say no.
If they did do it on purpose, it was a genius plan and either way I bet Fox will be making more money off this than CBS off of DSC at the current rate.
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Mot - Sun, 28 May 2017 22:25:51 EST ID:zMVRg8aH No.59490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Everybody has seen McFarlane's student animated short "Life of Larry" right? It's basically Family Guy minus Meg and about 50% of it is TOS jokes. I think The Orville is the show McFarlane has always wanted to make and finally can.

I'm optimistic.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 May 2017 23:14:15 EST ID:asWVBJxF No.59536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Doesn't The Orville sound similar to Other Space? That was a similar show that aired for a season on Yahoo Screen though it was more like Red Dwarf than Star Trek. But I think given how big of a fan Seth is of Star Trek, I think it has potential. Plus I like Norm MacDonald.
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Wed, 31 May 2017 00:28:34 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.59537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59391
Blunt Talk has a really goofy weird charm about it. It's fairly vulgar and pretty smart.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 13:21:20 EST ID:p7XMDbPh No.59569 Report Quick Reply
>>59537
It really was. It sucks Starz canceled it like they did with Party Down since their comedies are pretty good.
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Guinan - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:45:17 EST ID:GygX1Icc No.59583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59569
>Was

FUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKK.

THIS IS NEWS TO ME
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:54:57 EST ID:asWVBJxF No.59632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59583
It got an initial two season order but it didn't get renewed most likely due to low ratings. Had a hell of a cast too.
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M'ret - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 02:26:12 EST ID:+yU5SQDm No.59814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't wait for the episode where Blob Norm MacDonald gets turned human for an episode and they completely deadpan it and act like nobody noticed because he's so fat.
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M'ret - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 08:46:34 EST ID:+yU5SQDm No.59815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59814
Ooh. Better yet the episode where Norm MacDonald gets turned human but they calculate the volume of human Norm and scale him down to match the volume of the blob and he's 3 feet tall.
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Li Nalas - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:12:06 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Man if they really manage to channel the theme/feel from Galaxy Quest into this, it could end up being gold.
I'm not gonna get my hopes too high up but I'm definitely excited to see how this does.
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Lt. Cmdr. Calvin Hudson - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 00:55:52 EST ID:E1RGSIQh No.59822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>orville shuttle spotted on freeway

the only reason to not use a tarp because they knew we would post this.

pretty neat tho.
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Third of Five - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:42:22 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.59824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59822
Looks pretty cool. Have they showed what the ship actually looks like yet?
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Christopher Brynner - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 04:54:25 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.59825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59824
The back is identical or similiar to the ship in the background.
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Weyoun 5 - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 05:13:02 EST ID:5N0f6V+d No.59826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59825
I'm imagining the practical solid looking design could be a joke?
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Rionoj - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 05:33:31 EST ID:qAfEdX/3 No.59827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59826
Nah they use models for all their close up ships. Nothing like the big ILM Star trek models but small and detailed miniatures.
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Weyoun 5 - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 06:27:19 EST ID:5N0f6V+d No.59828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59827
I mean because all trek ships are flimsy and impractical, this thing is probably sturdier and also because it's solid rather than having long arms everywhere you can fit more "ship" into a smaller shield bubble or warp field or whatever else you use.

If I was building a space ship to actually win fights it'd be more like the Orville and less like the Enterprise. I mean I guess this is why the Borg fly around in cubes and spheres.
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Prinadora - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:08:09 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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model
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Prinadora - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:09:24 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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from back

strange but cool design imo
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B'Elanna Torres - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:27:46 EST ID:oP/P42rV No.59833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59831
It looks like an amalgamation of a modern day destroyer, a squid and one of those Vulcan ring ships.
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Phlox - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 16:07:31 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59828
The in universe explanation for why starfleet ships look so wonky is that only certain hull geometries are 'aerodynamic' with a warp field. That's why originally they made all the strict rules about nacelles having to be on pylons with line of sight to each other and away from the main hull. The alien ships from TOS mostly follow this rule, but then they just stopped caring.
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Porthos - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 03:19:44 EST ID:mQBX4dTo No.59846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59833
I thought the same thing the first time I saw the trailer
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Simon Tarses - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:42:56 EST ID:6NmnCisv No.59851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59831

make me think of a basketball
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Natima Lang - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 22:50:56 EST ID:Paa+aYhB No.59852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
toilet seat left up lolololo
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Senator Pardek - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:58:55 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.59853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59831
that's actually kinda neat
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Keldar - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 01:07:03 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.59855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59831
It kinda reminds me of Moya, but instead of the lines intercepting in the back they intercept in the middle then go through to the back.
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Grand Nagus Gint - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 20:23:38 EST ID:Z9q7T93l No.59900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59831
I'd drop the middle part, it sort of looks like it'd get fried by the upper and lower parts, but thats a small quibble.

The fact they made a physical model? Thats fucking awesome.
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Admiral Hayes - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 17:23:29 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.59915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59900
>when a parody show makes more of an effort to be authentic than the actual property under development

Truly we live in dark times.
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Sarina Douglas - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 17:51:37 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59915
yup. And they're making a serious effort. Those beige walls look so much like tng, and you can tell they were trying to go for as LCARS ish as possible without directly stealing it, and changing the color scheme.
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Admiral Alidar Jarok - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 18:13:00 EST ID:E1RGSIQh No.59919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59916

>1990s future: beige, lights, screens, sex, fun, philosophy, 'spolsions

>2017 future: dark, grim, grimdark, darkflare, hijab, preachy
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Lt. Joseph Carey - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:12:02 EST ID:zQ+XXy3R No.59927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59919

Honestly, if you think about it. This was because of 9/11. 9/11 made Americans realise that no matter what, no one is safe and there will never be a utopian worldview.
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Keldar - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 18:58:21 EST ID:E1RGSIQh No.59931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59927

> 9/11 made Americans realise that no matter what, no one is safe and there will never be a utopian worldview.

I am an american and you are a fucking idiot.

nb.
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Mobara - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 01:49:42 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59931
You're blind if you don't see the impact on how America sees the world since 9/11.

Everything has been slightly more grimdark since then.
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Dejar - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:17:54 EST ID:lu6itdk3 No.59934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59927
American here. It made me realize that towers don't spontaneously explode.
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Dr. Mizan - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:35:44 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.59935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59934
Wait, that's something you had to learn?
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Weyoun 6 - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:54:55 EST ID:ZDY0orq1 No.59936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59933

>Everything has been grimdark since then

You need to see a counselor.

Stop assuming every american feels like you do.

Stop being a pussy and start dreaming again.
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Travis Mayweather - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:45:42 EST ID:IaHdiKel No.59944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59936
A lot of media has tapped into that sentiment but it's definitely not true.

Some progressives are self righteous and some are just failures looking to blame their mistakes on society being "rigged" against them but a lot of them genuinely believe we can keep going forward and believe it is imperative that every action is taken and backsliding it resisted. There's a lot of them and they're the majority.
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Lwaxana Troi - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:09:29 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59936
Shutup fag I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about everyone else and the media, which television is a part of.
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Guinan - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 03:40:49 EST ID:GygX1Icc No.59956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59936
>>59934
>>59934
>>59933

I came to earth from El Aurian Prime solely to listen to the greatest writers of fiction and science fiction to learn the soul of the human species. Your sci fi must not become grimdark and stay muddled in that rut or you will not travel the stars! Without a positive utopian outlook, there's no inspiring. If you make space scary and awful, no one's gonna want to go. Especially since it really can be awful and scary. Star Trek has given that kind of hope to generations of kids who grew up to be astronomers and astronauts, or even who just grew up supporting the idea of exploring beyond this tiny sphere, onto the great beyond. JJ Trek isn't that kind of future. We don't really have time to see the good parts between the action scenes, the parts that wouldn't give you PTSD, the parts that people would think

>"Aw fuck that's cool, imagine if this was what I did?"
>Travel space exploring the unknown
>Where no man has gone before!
>Suddenly you slip through the deckplates and get eviscerated when you rematerialize
>"Ow"

Okay okay there was that.. but consider how cozy life on the EntD would be... The most on-screen deaths we see is only like 70 kids or something

Goddammit I'm not getting my point across I'm doing the opposite

What I'm trying to say is that the overall message of Old Trek was that the future would be a better time.. that things would improve for us as a species, in spite of hard times.. that we would become as a people, something more than we are today. We have to hope for things like that. We should strike for things like that.

Like others have said, if you don't want to explore a non utopian star trek universe and just pretend in your mind it is trek but it's set in one of the infinite mirror universes.

But it's my opinion that sci fi in the current millennium has become increasingly dystopian and by extension, the youth who watch it become less inclined towards space exploration. We need more positive, utopian scifi. We may be killing our future by darkening our dreams of it.

That is my El Aurian opinion
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Lwaxana Troi - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 03:47:47 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59956
That was filmed by Kubrick.
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Kai Opaka - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:00:26 EST ID:Qo4yytmf No.59958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
To be fair Family Guy might be shit but American Dad remained funny for a good 7-8 years, it seems to depend on the exact mixture of people involved but if it stays more plot/characters-funny and less randumb-humour funny it'll probably be good. Honestly I'll try a few episodes off the back of that trailer alone.
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Kor - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:00:54 EST ID:hgXev95+ No.59959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59956
>but consider how cozy life on the EntD would be... The most on-screen deaths we see is only like 70 kids or something

>Goddammit I'm not getting my point across I'm doing the opposite
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Guinan - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:30:49 EST ID:zHG+MQ1n No.59965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59959
You know what I mean though... The vibe of grimdark scifi doesn't show you a life you might wanna live.. but in the 60s-90s when scifi was less edgy, even the darker stuff had technologies that were cutting edge and revolutionary, things we now have but take for granted. Old scifi was a driving force behind human innovation and technical progress, now that's going to stagnate because all our dreams are dead and dying. We need positivity in science fiction or else the future becomes a nightmare rather than a dream
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Lwaxana Troi - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:02:13 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59965
If it's any consolation, at least there has been a slight shift as of late, considering all the developments with stuff like Space-X and the discoveries on Mars. There's a bit of a sci fi renaissance going on, at least in movies. It hasn't made it to tv yet though. Sci fi tv at the moment is overwhelmingly downbeat.
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EMH MARK 2 - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:53:42 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.59972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like the way it looks, it's a surprise, if I could have this in the place of family guy and company on tv I'll take it

Everything about it gives me the proper star trek feel, if you can ignore the puerile immaturity that it is contractually obligated to have as a media product of the future.
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Kor - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:50:21 EST ID:/1chkS2B No.59987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59967
Kind of hoping for tempered optimism now. A lot of previously fantasy concepts are within reach and we need to be considering both the potential benefits to inspire us to reach up but also the hazards so we don't fuck it up. We're looking at advanced ai, we should be considering both of soong's boys.
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Minuet - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 09:39:42 EST ID:9GP7BciH No.60017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59967
Well The Martian is the kind of sci-fi that's really inspiring and aspirational near-future stuff.

But it's a hell of a lot more successful as a movie than most of those. It's not political drama and high concept stuff like Contact, but a really well told story with humor and pathos, tension, struggle and a bit of action.

The Martian is the kind of Sci-fi the world needs more of, and it's largely down to being damn well written and grounded.

I think Seveneves could be the next great thing in that line of adaptation, but I'd much rather see it as a longer HBO type series than a single movie So I think the Martian has the edge again for not being so expansive and difficult to unpack.

Goddamn The Martian is a good movie. Shits on Interstellar.
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Hikaru Sulu - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 13:36:24 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.60018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60017
Disagree.
It was a good movie, but not all that compelling, and kinda boring. Yeah it was well written and in general was technically good, but it just wasn't that interesting. Matt Damon is just bland.
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Trentin Fala - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 21:36:24 EST ID:9GP7BciH No.60028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60018
Well it's the movie about a stranded dude. We've seen that a million times. But mainly it's about how realistic and accurate the portrayal was.

It was "Hard" sci-fi without being too hard to digest. Almost like a fictional version of Apollo 13. Even if you don't like it it's the kind of thing we should have more of.

I also think that groundedness is what Interstellar completely missed with its high concept stuff. 2001: a space odyssey had both the groundedness and the high concept stuff along with a bunch of out there imagery. And that's where Interstellar failed to live up to 2001's standard.

Star Trek is fundamentally concept sci-fi though. It has its roots more in the realm of The Twilight Zone than this sort of thing.
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Admiral Chekote - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 04:46:22 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.60032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60028
"High concept" means that the story is based on a simple, short concept. The Martian was way more high concept than Interstellar was, because the Martian is "a guy gets left behind on Mars and has to survive until rescue". But if you have to describe Interstellar you start with a plague that kills crops, and end with 4th dimensional future humans who communicate through love.

I came into Interstellar expecting a straight time dilation plot. I was extremely disappointed. Great visuals, but man, the movie underneath it just wasn't worth it for me.
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Vekma - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 21:11:15 EST ID:gryAHHw3 No.60039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60032
I feel like at some stage of the writing Interstellar had that before it just decided to sprawl all over the place.
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James Moriarty - Fri, 07 Jul 2017 02:27:27 EST ID:90oFOcqs No.60041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60032
I actually liked the "love as a force" motif cuz I saw the film after reading the Hyperion Cantos and that's a huge plot point in the latter two novels.

I was accepting of it in that context. I'd recommend that series to any sci fi fan tho. It has what is probably the most realistic, thought-out portrayal of AI I've read.
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Quark - Fri, 07 Jul 2017 02:48:40 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.60042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60039
Yeah, there's a few parts where it looks like it should have been a major point in the movie. But at most, it's used as a metaphor for two people being apart. Well, The Forever War called...

>>60041
With Hyperion it doesn't stand on its own, though. And it's part of a greater Christian context. With Interstellar, people kept saying how it blew their minds... and then it doesn't. In fact, at times it's a very dumb movie.
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Icheb - Mon, 10 Jul 2017 06:26:38 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.60083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I truly enjoyed Interstellar. That being said, I've seen it only once. But the fact that it had a big budget, and explored some hard scientific/sci fi themes was great. I wish it hadn't focused on the dumb bookshelf and time travel shit as much, but I still thought it was pretty cool. But it would have been better if it didn't try to go all 'Space Oddyssey but with a real meaning' and just stayed more concrete.
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Lt. Chu'lak - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 02:26:29 EST ID:Rjwhi0U8 No.60096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60083
My initial impression of Interstellar was good but when I watched it again something seemed off. I didn't really try very hard to analyze what mechanisms were bothering me, but it seemed to rely a lot on emotional manipulation and without the blaring soundtrack, I doubt it would've elicited the reactions that it did. It appeared to use the plot as a tool to get you to feel a certain way, rather than the plot being something with its own intrinsic value. The actual events of the film seemed nonsensical and disjointed, and to veer off into different directions at its convenience.

I still liked it but if I watch it again I'd probably take a more critical approach.
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Guinan - Thu, 03 Aug 2017 03:39:21 EST ID:GygX1Icc No.60459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60096
>Interstellar
>implying it had a plot

top par
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Subcommander Velal - Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:43:03 EST ID:5uU+DoWU No.60460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Interstellar and hard-scifi? Please...
The time dilation is a plot gimmick and actually not relevant to the story, plus you can basically scrap the whole thing if you think about the ending.

Watch The Expanse when you want a modern space opera, they actually have inertia play a role in the story and it's world-building density is high enough that it can actually be considered to be in the same genre as Trek.
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Guinan - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 01:40:13 EST ID:GygX1Icc No.60470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60460
Ok I'm sold. I'm going to watch the expanse.
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James T Kirk - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 03:26:31 EST ID:zdJLz8PT No.60477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60470

Season 1 is kind of corny, but charming in that "B-Grade Sci-Fi" way

Season 2 is balls out, unadulterated awesome

And yes, the Worldbuilding is Strong with this show

Amos the Best
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Guinan - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 03:41:47 EST ID:0ps39mNs No.60479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60477
Bro I just watched the Babylon 5 spin-off crusade.. it can't possibly be cheesier than that lol
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Persis - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 11:54:16 EST ID:3tDF89b4 No.60484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60479
I fucking love Gary Cole in the leather jacket as captain. It's so unlike Star Trek. Also the Techno-mage. I don't remember shit else about Crusade lol.
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Guinan - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 16:35:50 EST ID:GygX1Icc No.60488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60484
You pretty much listed the only good parts, lol.. but yeah the captain and the technomage definitely stood out
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Major Rakal - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 18:57:12 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.60489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60470
You're gonna love it. And after you watch The Expanse you HAVE to read the books. They're amazing. And I won't say what it is, but there's an element to the story that is really fucking awesome that isn't the show but is in the books.
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Guinan - Wed, 09 Aug 2017 01:26:09 EST ID:GygX1Icc No.60530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60477
Just finished season one and that shit was GREAT
Definitely looking forward to season two

>>60489
I think that I might have to do that.. the details worked into the show in the setting and the background just make me think that the books have got to be pretty impressive
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Biddle Coleridge - Wed, 09 Aug 2017 14:55:33 EST ID:4xP6Y5mY No.60538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60530
Bruh, The Expanse, TV show and books, is like the best new Sci fi to come out in a decade
Glad you're on the wagon now
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M'ret - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:41:24 EST ID:oaTY3ITf No.60772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Apparently this premieres on 9/10.

I am really excited and I am going to declare it a "star trek show" for the sake of the board and discussion.
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Quark - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:33:40 EST ID:bJrisuWk No.60773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60772
nice. I had no clue it was so soon. I hope i can find some platform to watch it on because I'm more excited about this than the startreks.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 23:49:15 EST ID:TJt/VdSR No.60821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60772
I mean this board is for Star Trek and Star Trek-like media after all. I'm looking forward to watching it.

>>60773
It'll be up on Hulu and Fox Now within a day of its premiere and on torrents even earlier.
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Admiral Cartwright - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 21:08:12 EST ID:8AkZ6sPJ No.60871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I only tuned in halfway through but I thought it was ok. Lotta good callbacks to trek, especially in the way they framed the establishing shots, with the matte painting looking background. Nice to see Cassidy Yates as well as Bashir's dad too. The combat scene was kinda stupid, but it's also supposed to be a comedy so I ain't gonna knock it too hard for that.
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Subcommander T'Rul - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:23:20 EST ID:e5feiTTX No.60873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's up on the cytube 1701 channel if you want to watch it.

>>60871

I have no idea what this show is. Its like they took a TNG fan script and had SM tag jokes onto it.

It's a straight up recreation of season 1 TNG. Worf is there at tactical, awkward black guy is at the conn, Butch chick is head of security, there's a fucking robot doing season 1 Data schtick. The music sounds straight out of TMP (like the theme is literally a rework of the TMP/TNG theme).

But its not a parody. All those characters, minus the bits that stick out like Family Guy gags, are played straight.

So you end up with a show thats not a parody, but not unique enough to be "New Trek", Not quite fun enough to be a comedy, but not serious enough to be good sci fi (The sci-fi element to this episode was a complete after thought. It was just a prop for space ships to fight over). It was just ... eh.

Seth McFarlane could get his head out of his ass and let this show find its identity, but I don't have high hopes.
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Lonzo - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 01:03:23 EST ID:dso9pn2h No.60875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm so glad it was as terrible as I had anticipated.
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Jennifer Sisko - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 05:35:01 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.60877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It wasn't bad. It had its moments. Tbh it felt like a half decent episode of ENT maybe. Which is about what my expectations were.

It was like Star Trek for plebs which is much better than the bastardized Star Trek we're about to get from NBC most likely.
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Valkris - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:59:01 EST ID:4Xxn54eG No.60879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I kind of liked it, although probably because I'm desperate for any new content resembling star trek. The jokes were hit and miss.
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Dexter Remmick - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:53:41 EST ID:rUoCQP0r No.60884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59221
Rips of the first episode are out.
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Commander Tomalak - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:31:05 EST ID:rUoCQP0r No.60889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60879
Seth can write comedy but he can't direct it for shit.

Is it just me or do the huge, empty rooms and hallways of the ship remind me of Star Trek Online and its indoor stadium approach to designing everything?
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Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:25:35 EST ID:Z9q7T93l No.60899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60889
Not shocking, given all his direction work before this was on animated shows, a completely different beast.
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Furel - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 16:09:23 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.60901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
It's kind of like a fan show. But that's exactly what it is. I enjoyed it for what it was. It hit the right Trek beats often enough, and McFarlane's signature toilet humour was subdued enough. I'm pleasantly surprised by the fact that a lot of the show is character-driven. I'm especially enjoying the pilots, who both seem like Tom Paris done better.

It's mostly harmless jokes about Trek contrivances. I can deal. Also, the superstrength girl is cute.
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Herbert Rossoff - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:54:30 EST ID:Wqg7ST5a No.60905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60899
he didn't direct Ted and 1 Million Ways to Die in the West?
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Sphere Builder - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:51:18 EST ID:rUoCQP0r No.60906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60905
Not in the Kelvin timeline, he didn't.
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Katogh - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 23:45:44 EST ID:b+N+/SRJ No.60909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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loved it. very strong blend of TMP and Galaxy Quest.
they did the shuttle crash scene better than the shuttle crash scene.
curious to see how the rest of the season shapes up in tone.
totally love borax or whatever his name is.
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The Traveler - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:41:22 EST ID:ykiJhCGY No.60916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Honestly, kinda loved it
Few jokes were lame as shit i.e. the banana thing with the time machine "does it only work on bananas hururururur" but overall, not bad. I mean we only got one fucking episode to judge this on so I ant gunna be too judgemental but you get a solid B+ mcfarlane, you might be handsome and rich and successful but damnit I respect your effort to get this made
pic related, my forbidden love for a show made by a talented singer and dancer who also happens to make Family Guy
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Michael Sullivan - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 19:52:14 EST ID:CkKjKvSM No.60919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60905
Ted is literally just a really decent Family Guy two-parter reworked into a feature film.

By film standards that's pretty shit, but not as shit as the actual shit film standards we have now thanks to the bar being crushed by the gravitational pull of thousands of layers of sequels and reboots beneath it.
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Seskal - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 21:37:47 EST ID:rUoCQP0r No.60921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60916
>Few jokes were lame as shit i.e. the banana thing with the time machine "does it only work on bananas hururururur"

I dug that one, even I'd already seen it in the trailer. I do think it would have worked better if Seth and what's her face had been nudging each other a bit while they roasted the guy, instead of playing it straight and dry.
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Groundskeeper Boothby - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:08:43 EST ID:FjZ9V2nx No.60925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just watched it.

It does actually feel a hell of a lot like a Star Trek show. The lighting, pacing, and music all have that Star Trek feel. Hell it even has the ship hum in the background. I swear it almost has that Trek magic. It's just a shame that the really low brow jokes have to keep reminding me that this isn't Star Trek.

I'm gonna give it a few more episodes to see if it grows on me but overall I'm pretty lukewarm.
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Thy'lek Shran - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 14:45:54 EST ID:p36bEYvO No.60930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60919

dont forget about the capeshit effect
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Legate Turrel - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 15:15:57 EST ID:52qIw6x9 No.60931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Movies are bad now.
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Krem - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:02:52 EST ID:b+N+/SRJ No.60951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my thoughts after a week:
>roddenberry had a dream about a united humanity
>discotrash seems to have abandoned the dream in favor of easy drama
>the orville presents the dream, with dick jokes

I give the show a C+ or B but I WANT IT TO SUCCEED because I believe in the dream.

As propaganda, a show that informs about lifestyles needs to be WATCHED to be effective. Orville *can* slow troll rednecks into believing the universe is giant, immeasurable. Discotrash will preach to a specific choir, for specific dollars, on a specific service. Useless. Impotent. Masturbatory.
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Admiral Chekote - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:59:17 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.60954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm looking forward to tomorrow's episode.
A lot of the exposition with all its crappy jokes turned me off, but I get the feeling the show is gonna heat up and really start to feel like trek.
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Lwaxana Troi - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:47:59 EST ID:l43Ws0Pm No.60971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Starting the second episode now, but it starts off with that trademarked MacFarlane fratbro appeal-to-the-LCD overtly glib humor and I already want to turn it off. Worse yet, Palicki is the worst actor in the cast despite being one of the only actual actors.

Another week and I'll have discotrash to complain about instead of this.
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Species 8472 - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:11:16 EST ID:ykiJhCGY No.60972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Holy shit that new episode was pretty fucking good imo
I like the Lieutenant elf ears arc about being a good leader, honestly felt like a solid TNG episode 9/10 Seth McFarlane
I really wanted to hate this show when it first came because I thought it'd just be family guy: the next generation but goddamnit McFarlane you had to go and make an interesting show so far
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Karyn Archer - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 00:22:43 EST ID:vDfMz9Zo No.60973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I enjoyed this episode. It was the classic trek episode archetype that felt a lot like tng and was well executed by MacFarlane and the crew.. I liked the chance to get to know some more of the bridge crew better. And the fact that the supporting actors aren't very good actors I think actually adds to this. Because even though this is big budget, it IS a fan production, and it feels a lot like that considering that some of the actors kinda suck lol. It just works.
Also, I love that they made a weed edible in the replicator. Who knows how many times the idea of that has crossed the minds of the people on this board.
And the reality tv joke was pretty funny.
I was hoping the show would set itself up, then be more substance and less poop jokes, and that's the way it seems to be now.

I give the episode a solid A.
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Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:55:10 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.60974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really enjoyed both episodes and they felt a lot like Trek that wasn't really bound by being Trek. Some of the jokes aren't great but there aren't a ton of them and I mostly take it as being a nervous, unfunny captain trying to use humor and failing rather than poor writing.

I think it was a bad decision to air the first two episodes on a Sunday right after Sunday Night Football in the hopes people wouldn't change then channel and then two episodes in switch to Thursday nights. I think it may end up hurting them.
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Kor - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:49:22 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.60976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60974
time slot bullshit?
on a Fox scifi series?
UNPOSSIBLE
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Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 03:48:28 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.60977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60975
Apparently, as was kind of hinted at the end of the last episode, ep. 3 is going to involve sexual reassignment surgery and possibly trans "issues" and they are already taking a lot of heat for it from ultra-progressives particularly because Seth is a white male.

>"The way this episode plays out makes it one of the most transparent and least necessary takes on the vast complexities of gender," Framke writes. "The episode, written by MacFarlane, clearly thinks it’s shedding light and nuance on a fraught topic; it's unclear if MacFarlane, a straight cis white guy, consulted anyone other than himself on said topic. But I would be shocked to discover that was the case, since the episode just ends up reciting bullet points too simplistic even for the transgender Wikipedia entry, and letting characters exchange the same basic arguments in scene after excruciating scene."

While the info itself seems to be true take that all with a grain of salt because the info I read on it was from people who were bashing Orville from the beginning. I also wouldn't recommend looking this up until after Thursday's episode airs because there are some pretty heavy plot spoilers that was also said (with no warning) and I wish I hadn't seen them. They pretty much spoiled the whole episode for the sake of a SJW rant and some MacFarlane bashing.
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Kor - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 08:11:16 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.60978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60977
lol let them cry those dipshits complain about everything unless you buy indulgences from them
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Tokath - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:38:57 EST ID:0JMozmZI No.60980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60977
>discotrash tries to talk about equality
>fucking no one is going to watch it

>orville tries to talk about equality
>fox network after football or something ffs

That being said I am secretly hoping that the Orville and Discotrash are secretly the same show and the Orville is the mirror timeline of Discotrash. Why not.
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Greer - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:01:02 EST ID:8fnok9bf No.60982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60977
Seth doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to Trans issues
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Wesley Crusher - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:02:53 EST ID:ykiJhCGY No.60983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60977
Lol Jesus
LGBTQ people get upset over fucking everything
Let em cry about it
>muh Orville
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M'Pella - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:44:34 EST ID:4aCvVJgH No.60984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60983
with the amount of hormones they pump into themselves that they are just not genetically able to handle, are you really that surprised?
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Ambassador Thoris - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:01:07 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.60990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60977
Sometimes I wonder if those people would also cry about TNG and DS9 if they came out today. Jadzia is a very obvious trans analogue, and there would certainly be people complaining that it's "coding", and not showing enough trans issues. In fact, I've seen plenty of virtue signallers complain that there aren't enough women in TNG and that TOS was racist because Uhura isn't higher up the command tree.

There are people in this world who have already decided what they think about everything. It's the old addage: To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I'll just wait for the episode.
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Guinan - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:39:38 EST ID:jL2Njis4 No.61007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Guinan here, I was only able to watch episode two but I thought it was pretty legit. Despite its parody-ness, it does give a good trek vibe, with a side of goofy mild retardation, then again I missed episode one and might not be able to see three until much later due to subspace interference
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Lupaza - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:39:22 EST ID:cpE3Ti+h No.61010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60982
>Seth doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to Trans issues

What are you talking about? He clocked Bruce Jenner like 12 years early.
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:09:00 EST ID:e07cQPXj No.61017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59221
Space Kstew is growing on me quickly. I hope her acting gets better.
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:23:14 EST ID:e07cQPXj No.61019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60990
>Sometimes I wonder if those people would also cry about TNG and DS9 if they came out today.

Absolutely they would. The worst of the heavy lifting for the LGBTQI community is mostly over. If you're an idiot in the 2010s looking for a cause, the easiest bandwagon to hop on is the one marked Nothing Is Good Enough For Me. BLM abandoned a legitimate issue to hop on it and now they're tearing into their allies and shredding their own reputation with their enthusiastic insanity. They struggle for relevancy by shitting where everyone eats.

The key to the writing in past Treks was allegory. The current Trek is hung up on analogues and equivalents. Trills are *like* transsexuals. Klingons *are* Trump supporters. Subtlety and subtext are out the airlock. Every character, every faction and every conversation will be signposting. Or shitposting. Either fits.
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Dr. Reyga - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:23:25 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.61020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61017
I feel like the bright setting and the comedy nature of the show covers the actors' skill to some degree. McFarlane's writing basically boils down to everyone goofing off a lot, so when there's bad delivery or awkward acting, my mind tends to ascribe it to the character.
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Azan - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:25:56 EST ID:cpE3Ti+h No.61021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61017
It took me 5 minutes of staring at my computer to remember who Kstew is. Mostly because this is exactly what her face looks like.
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Azan - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:49:12 EST ID:cpE3Ti+h No.61022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Being a girl isn't a condition
>Having a vagina doesn't give you a lisp

>I mean depending on how you use it.
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Azan - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:07:23 EST ID:cpE3Ti+h No.61023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The pilot sucks but I really love this shit now.

By the third episode they're playing it more straight and yet the jokes are funnier. It's really shaping up.
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Kono - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:42:42 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61023
That is good to hear. I've decided to forgo watching tonight's episode until Sunday since its the only day off I get, well its really a half day but still, and Disco premiers. I intend to get properly loaded, watch them back to back, and see which feels more like Trek. I have a feeling which its going to be but I'm going to try my best to give Disco a fair shake.

I have to say I have been really enjoying Orville. Its not perfect but its imperfections feel like they are supposed to be there and that is kind of its charm. Some of the jokes fall flat but as I mentioned previously it kind of works that way. Having a unsure captain trying to hide his insecurities with jokes that don't seem to work out. It to fit with the image I have of Macfarlane as a captain. Its not everything I'd want out of new trek but its good enough. I just hope all the negative press it gets doesn't kill it. A lot of people seem to pan it because of its comedy but its not a comedy show. Its not in a 30 minute format for a reason. I think it has a lot of potential and am more excited for the third episode of it than I have for the first episode of DIS.

While I haven't been exactly sober when watching I can't help but get excited when I cut a new episode on and really enjoyed the intro and score they started, and I assume have kept, with the second episode. It looks and sounds like an updated trek intro excluding ENT of course.
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Azan - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:45:14 EST ID:cpE3Ti+h No.61025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61024
That's the thing, they play it super straight, and because of that the occasional jokes they do either land well or don't matter.
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Dr. Reyga - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:49:39 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.61030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61024
I'd describe it as Star Trek Light. It does the same sort of themes, but it's not as in depth and serious.

The thing is, I think this probably appeals to the "new audience" more than the NuTraks. I'm watching it with a bunch of people who don't watch Trek, but they watch American Dad religiously. So all I had to say was "have you guys heard of the new Seth McFarlane show?" and now they're watching Trek Light. And it's not such a big step from The Orville to episodes like Hollow Pursuits or The Magnificent Ferengi.
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Guinan - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:55:31 EST ID:/Y/Qq+Zc No.61042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61031
>>61032

LOL, this is why I don't use a tripcode because it's funnier this way
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:01:37 EST ID:e07cQPXj No.61044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just finished ep 3 and damn, things are getting interesting. The shows was marketed as a comedy, the pilot was jokey end-to-end but the last two eps are shifting into TNG mode with occasional dick jokes. And I'm am digging the split couple dynamic - they can speak directly and intimately, point out each others quirks and touch each other and it doesn't meant they're about to jump into bed. That's a pretty deep relationship and they've planted right smack in the middle of the bridge. Nice one.

We've got an optimistic sci-fi drama with dick jokes. And it seems to be working. If this holds up, Discovery could be an utter flop and no one would care. I'm okay with tthat.
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Q - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 05:06:30 EST ID:p36bEYvO No.61048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The Orville

>"It's not as good as Star Trek, but at least it's not as bad as Star Trek."
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Guinan - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 18:25:38 EST ID:fQoAcSu4 No.61059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61048
This post right here is the most accurate post

thanks for the lul
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Leonard McCoy - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:56:04 EST ID:e5feiTTX No.61064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>60977

After watching it, they're right. The episode was bad, though I'm not sure it was even supposed to be about transgenderism. Commander Tits actually uses the word at one point, but the actual situation is more reminiscent of inter-sexed people being assigned genders at birth, an issue with a lot of nuance and surrounding controversy that Seth MacFarlane cleverly sidesteps entirely by not going into any depth on Marklar biology and history, extremely relevant issues when dealing with cultural/species relativism, and just boiling the Marklar position down to "women r dum" so that The Orville crew can be morally correct.

I get it's a comedy, but the drama was played straight. It was heavy handed and shallow, and it was bad sci-fi. I never thought I would appreciate "The Outcast", but here we are.

But on the plus side, we finally got a fucking Norm MacDonald scene. Make the blob the captain and let Family Guy scrub the holodeck.
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Lt. Chu'lak - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 06:30:27 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61064
Yeah I wasn't too into that. At the beginning of the episode when they started getting into the trans stuff I was just hoping they weren't gonna spend the whole episode on that, but they did.
I really liked the second episode and I thought the first one was alright. I hope they don't get so heavy handed too much in the rest of the season. It totally kills the vibe that I feel like they're trying to create when they do that and spend 45 minutes sidestepping making a point.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 00:30:16 EST ID:3Lf2aWvC No.61088 Report Quick Reply
>>60974
>I think it was a bad decision to air the first two episodes on a Sunday right after Sunday Night Football in the hopes people wouldn't change then channel and then two episodes in switch to Thursday nights. I think it may end up hurting them.

They did that with The Mick earlier this year actually. It didn't really hurt them that much given that it was one of Fox's highest rated new comedies since New Girl. The Orville, on the other hand, will have a harder time given Fox's track record with sci-fi shows not named The X-Files as >>60976 puts it.
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Lt. Reginald Barclay - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:18:05 EST ID:sov4E+0Z No.61122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61064
It has almost nothing to do with transgenderism. It's directly about intersex rights and playing off a scenario that was common from the 50s to 70s.

It's a plot that was used in Masters of Sex. People who are making it avout trabsgenderism are ignorant or clutching at straws. One articlesaying cis white macfarlane should ahut up because gender is a spectrum, ugh. It's nothing to do with that.

It's interesting Moclan development though.they reproduce either asexually or sexually without requiring both genders and selected for male dominance naturally or artificially. That's good racial cultural development early on.
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Nurse Jabara - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:23:31 EST ID:e5feiTTX No.61146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61122

>either asexually or sexually
>naturally or artificially
>good racial cultural development

If it was so good then why don't we know the answers to those questions?

There are a ton of interesting sci-fi angles that this premise could have taken, and Seth MacFarlane managed to avoid all of them.
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Vic Fontaine - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:34:13 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61146
Because we're only 3 episodes in. Think about how much we didn't know about the various races 3 episodes in to TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9, and ENT.

The jem'hadar are a good example of this. It took a long time to really get a good feel for them. Same with the Vulcans in TOS particularly regarding Pon farr. Hell, we had to get through TOS and a good bit of TNG to really get an in depth look at the Klingons.
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Captain Solok - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:30:38 EST ID:c3hrG/rf No.61193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
Watching season 1 episode 1 now. So far so good.
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Geordi La Forge - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:24:14 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Episode 4 was excellent.

It's awesome seeing them win a space battle and the black helmsman stands up and yells "BOOM BITCH!" I fuckin lol'd.

I feel like this show is really starting to find its footing and its identity. I hope we get more episodes like this. It was a classic trek format and the jokes are actually kinda starting to work. It's not feeling so contrived. It feels authentic, and I'm really starting to love it. It's so great to see a true trek episode on tv like that.
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Sarah Sisko - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 08:34:26 EST ID:4Xxn54eG No.61243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61241
Yes episode 4 was the best one yet. It felt just like I was watching a classic TNG episode with just a few jokes scattered in. I'm really surprised at this series.
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Robin Lefler - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:22:25 EST ID:QWFcg6+i No.61246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>dat homage to the V'Ger theme
>James Morrison (Space Above & Beyond)
>hints of the Vulcan theme from First Contact

And this two-shot, which made me bust out laughing. Other than McFarlane's and the ex's weak acting this episode was a homerun.

My face hurts from grinning like a dope for 45 minutes.
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Janice Rand - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:06:58 EST ID:e5feiTTX No.61248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61241

>It was a classic trek format

Yeah, it was "For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky".

Also, they're setting up a love triangle between Family Guy, Commander Tits, and Notasha Yar, Because Seth MacFarlane writes the show so of course all the women want to have sex with him.

It was the best episode so far, the laughs came a lot more naturally, so it's going the right direction. The sci-fi elements are still very shallow and I have serious doubts about Seth MacFarlane's ability to improve them.

And as with every week, Norm MacDonald needs more screen time.
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Geordi La Forge - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:00:27 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61248
It's a Fox tv show.
We're not gonna be getting Measure of a Man level depth.
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Sphere Builder - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:08:46 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.61252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Anyone else waiting for Bortus to start babbling on about Darmok and Jalad?
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Maihar'du - Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:35:51 EST ID:bBzNXZOq No.61253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61241

>It's awesome seeing them win a space battle and the black helmsman stands up and yells "BOOM BITCH!" I fuckin lol'd.

Agreed. That was the first scene to actually make me laugh, when I hadn't even mildly smirked for the first three eps. The show's clearly leaning more toward serious than comedic though, so the comedy could work better if they manage to catch viewers so off guard like that.
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Latha Mabrin - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 14:41:17 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.61266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Next episode should be bretty gud. Directed by none other than Number One

Plz ignore viewing figures :(
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Corporal R Ryan - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 14:53:57 EST ID:vDfMz9Zo No.61267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61266
Kinda predictable as Seth and Fox basically fooled everyone into thinking it was gonna be space Family Guy only for it to be star trek but with a few dick jokes.
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Guinan - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 14:45:58 EST ID:4fAEKz8c No.61279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61266
EPISODE 2 WAS DIRECTED BY TOM PARIS?!
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Legate Hovat - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 14:56:53 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.61280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61266
>Brannon Braga
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Guinan - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 15:18:02 EST ID:4fAEKz8c No.61281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61280
I didn't see it but wasn't that the episode a lot of people didn't like? lol..
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Private W Woods - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 18:43:25 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.61292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61267
I just hope this shit pulls through. It's good enough that I can imagine the kinks it has being worked out. I don't want FOX's shenanigans to murder another show I like.
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Ranjen Solbor - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 03:20:30 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61292
Same, especially after finally getting around to watching DIS. I feel like if they can just get a second season it will be fine but it being Fox I'm not sure if they will even get to air the full first season.
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EMH MARK 2 - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 19:06:17 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.61331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have just watched episode 4, and I have to say I found it quite charming. It definitely had a Trek feel to it, despite being fairly light in writing. The characters and the humour seemed to be coming together better in this episode than the others.

I'm honestly pretty excited for the next episode.
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Janice Rand - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:19:59 EST ID:0JMozmZI No.61360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Very Kirk moment when dude opens the sunroof. fuck your culture
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Guinan - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:39:31 EST ID:zrklsd5Z No.61367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61281
In retrospect I liked this one, it felt like a Klingon trial episode, gave you some philosophical pondering, and even gave me a touch of feels

Episode 2, 3 and 4 all were pretty good, I feel like this show is already finding its footing and exploring its core characters, whereas that remains to be seen about Discovery (and they're both about the same number of episodes in).

I really like this show so far.
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Valkris - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 16:50:51 EST ID:nIjtrALu No.61468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Midnight's Edge posted a roundtable on Discovery #3 and Orville #4. They shit on STD and love Orville. But there are some interesting bits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIjwCLqdH-8

They point out something that has blown me away again. I knew I recognized the leader dude but I couldn't place him. I glanced at his recent imdb but didn't recognize anything. And then ME points out that he was Troi's groom in the TNG pre-arranged marriage ep. Holy fuckballs.

The one guy points out that Lorca mirrors Admiral RoboCop in that both are unhinged and summon up superweapons to fight the Klingons.

CBS All Access also seems to be in turmoil with people signing up to watch STD #3 and then insta-cancelling.
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Guinan - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:19:39 EST ID:zrklsd5Z No.61470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61468
>CBS All Access also seems to be in turmoil with people signing up to watch STD #3 and then insta-cancelling.
lol

>he was Troi's groom in the TNG
THANK YOU GOD THAT WAS BUGGING THE FUCK OUTTA ME
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Erika Benteen - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:22:08 EST ID:lLULZtIw No.61471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61468
>Admiral RoboCop in that both are unhinged and summon up superweapons to fight the Klingons

Okay but you gotta recall that the whole Kelvin timeline split had that effect. Even the Enterprise is the size of the 1701-D and the USS Vengeance is like, half the size of a fucking D'deridex.

To use an Expanse reference. The original timeline is like Earth. The whole kelvin universe's exposure to Red Matter macguffin bullshit made them into Mars. Oceans be damned they're gonna make the biggest and most powerful ships they can.
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Valkris - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:37:14 EST ID:nIjtrALu No.61473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61471
The superweapon comment was connecting the travelsnot to Khan, not to the RoboCopShip. Listen to the roundtable.
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Guinan - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:40:30 EST ID:PNj/aHhh No.61474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just wanna point out that I think the 'bad guys' in this show, the Krill, look a lot like nuKlingons, while the Moclans look vaguely similar to Klingons with a large splash of Tamarian mixed in.. and they act like the oldskool Klingons, only slightly more gay since there are no females lol.

I think that's a nice subtle jab at Discovery and I hope they do something funny with it
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T'Les - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 18:30:41 EST ID:RUFWCIa+ No.61477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61468
Finally. I've been waiting for this.
And even though I thought ep 3 of DSC was decent in comparison, I get every single criticism they make. I guess I'm just not as hard on it.

But holy shit the reference to family guy on The Sopranos, saying Discovery "insists upon itself" could not be more true.

But yeah, tonight starring Charlize Theron and directed by Frakes. Should be dope. After how great last week's episode was, I gotta say I'm fuckin stoked.
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Li Nalas - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 18:50:39 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.61480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61468
My friends recognized him from Heroes, but when I looked at his acting history, apparently I completely missed that he was also in TNG. The director of the episode, James L. Conway, also directed a bunch of Star Trek episodes.

You think the naysayers will ever acknowledge the fact that there's such a big Trek connection in The Orville?
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Data - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:25:00 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61480
I think as time goes on the series is going to pick up a lot of talented guest stars and writers who worked on previous shows or who are just big Trek fans. Anyone who really cares about Trek can see just how much Seth is putting into the Orville and I think people will want to be a part of that. I was really wary of it at first because of Seth's involvement and I kind of figured it was going to be a half hour show similar to Other Space but its not and I think people are starting to see it for what it really is. Of course, that's assuming Fox doesn't cancel it for no reason.

Really excited for tonight's episode and I've frequently found myself looking forward to Orville. I get 1-2 1/2 days off a week and have recently switched to taking Thursday as my "guaranteed" half day so I can catch the Orville right after it airs and really relax and enjoy it. I can't really say the same for STD which I will definitely watch but am not particularly excited about it and don't care to wait several days before watching the latest episode.
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Erika Benteen - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:52:53 EST ID:lLULZtIw No.61488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61480
Some people are so delusional about The Orville being essentially first-class Star Trek fan fiction.
I don't know if it's MacFarlane hate or they feel like it's just stealing Star Trek and ruining it with dick jokes but there's so much of it going around. So many people will come out of the woodwork to downvote and shitpost on the star trek circlejerk if you mention The Orville even though it's totally relevant.
How shitty do you have to be to go around Orville post policing?

Is it like, the Twilight fans who hate True Blood? Like, they're both the same thing. But one is porn for girls and one is porn for gays. They're both fucking stupid, but they're worth comparing and contrasting because they were at the core of the vampire drama zeitgeist.

I fucking love taking in both sides of these things. Lexx and Farscape. Deep Space Nine and Babylon 5.
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Dr. Denara Pel - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 22:25:35 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61488
All critics hate Seth Macfarlane and a lot of viewers that think they're better than Family Guy hate him. I'm pretty sure pretty much everyone thought Family Guy was great towards the beginning. But when you're rerun into Oblivion it kinda kills your image and definitely waters down the show. I hate the show now but I recognize that he took that format and did well with it, making millions. Putting him up there with the likes of The SImpsons.
But Seth Macfarlane is a real sci fi guy. He helped bring about the recent season of Cosmos, working with Ann Druyan to make sure it kept the original feel. And I thought it was just as good as Carl Sagan's.
And he's a real trek fan. Whether or not people want to believe it, The Orville is the real deal. CBS is a bunch of money grubbing failure Ferengi.
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Data - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 22:30:12 EST ID:tIhoJp7M No.61495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61468
>CBS All Access also seems to be in turmoil with people signing up to watch STD #3 and then insta-cancelling.

Yeah, when I went to cancel after episode 3, they offered me a free month extension to my trial. The desperation is palpable.
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Jaresh-Inyo - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 22:42:20 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.61497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61495
Wow! Seriously? That is desperate. I mean, I don't understand that service. CBS isn't exactly king of content. Oh, look, hundreds of hours of Two and a Half Men! Oh, boy! Every CSI ever! In every flavor imaginable! How the fuck do they expect people to stick around if STD sucks?
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Dr. Denara Pel - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 23:04:47 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61488
Oh also, I fuckin love Lexx. Nobody ever brings it up. But I'm gonna be playing it in the tube next weekend. First season at least. Saturday night.
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Icheb - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 00:20:15 EST ID:vDfMz9Zo No.61500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucking excellent episode. It channeled Galaxy Quest and TNG so well.

I was hoping they'd explore Isaac a little more and they finally did. The practical joke was hilarious.
The humor has really found it's footing I think. I lol'd probably 7-8 times in this episode, watching by myself. It truly makes me happy that this show is doing so well.
It was a classic trek episode, I knew as soon as they picked her up kinda how the episode would go down. But I didn't see the Rasmussen spin coming at all. It was fuckin cool to go that route imo. Charlize Theron made for a really badass Star Trek villain as well.
Also, really badass and pretty cgi this episode. The scene in the dark matter field and the wormhole scene were both gorgeous.


Overall, 8/10. If there were a few more jokes that landed well it probably would have been a 10.

Also, it looks like next weeks episode is gonna be a mirror of the episode where Sisko goes undercover as a klingon. Should be interesting.
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Guinan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 00:49:34 EST ID:0Awg6gLC No.61501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61500
>FOOTING

Ha!
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Guinan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 00:55:00 EST ID:0Awg6gLC No.61502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61480
wait who was he in heroes? HRG's boss?

Ah fuck you said 'my friends' so you will likely not know

Best part of that show was the psychokinetic serial killer guy, but it fell completely apart after a single mildly awkward, moderately overhyped season, what a garbage show
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Guinan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 00:58:34 EST ID:0Awg6gLC No.61503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61488
r*ddit was cancer since the day it was born, that's why I never left the BBS boards and chans
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Cyrano Jones - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 01:01:32 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.61504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This episode was fucking great imo, I legit laughed out loud lots of times especially when Isaac took whats-his-face's leg
The story was really well done and it actually made me feel things, like Star Trek. Felt like a solid TNG episode, good work writers and whoever else is making this show so Trekky
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Guinan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 01:07:29 EST ID:0Awg6gLC No.61506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seriously though I agree, Orville is really exceeding my expectations.. it's like a higher budget TNG with some truly hilarious parts, and each episode is just a twinge better than the last. It's been really solid so far and it took them no time at all to figure out the characters... I'm still not even sure who all is an important character on star trek:MICHAEL BURNHAM discovery because that show is to busy focusing on Mary Sue.

Shit, I had a way cooler backstory.
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Dr. Mizan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 02:49:19 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61506
Yep, another outstanding episode. Its so much better than I ever hoped. At this point I don't care about STD as long as Orville sticks around.
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Thot Pran - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 04:48:20 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.61511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61485
I really hope FOX doesn't cancel it. Maybe Seth will lowkey threaten to take his cash-printing machines Family Guy and American Dad with him if they cancel it...

>>61488
The Trek Plebbit is such an infuriating place. It's completely clogged with empty STD "discussion", and they've got a lot of perma-angry gatekeepers who descend on anyone who dares say anything bad about it. They complain about being "brigaded" by people from The Orville sub-plebbit, but on Plebbit that's usually transparant code for people using the site's features in the exact same way they, themselves, do. And true to form, every STD topic has a huge amount of upvotes for some reason, and even mildly critical topics get downvoted. It's a big circlejerk of people patting each other on the back for how enlightened they are for swallowing a soulless corporate product with zero criticism. It's disgusting, it really is. All their arguments are so fucking poor, which is probably why they dogpile everyone who doesn't swallow it.

I've seen some stuff that makes me think there are paid shills, too. Recent accounts with Trek-themed usernames that are shitting on old Trek and praising STD. There are some obviously corporate topics, too. Posts praising CBS for throwing the masses another crust of bread, that sort of thing. Posts celebrating the success of the subscription service.

You know what I notice? The vast majority of these plebbit pro-STD posts don't explain anything. They just state things, often dumb opinions, as if they're facts. Some of those opinions are shared here, such as people liking ENT and referring back to how it was hated in the day. But that lack of argumentation, the incessant fluffing of people with similar opinions, and the blind love for a brand, not a product, is what makes me genuinely believe all these people are idiots. Uncritical, mouthbreathing, petty, little idiots. True to form, most posts talking about The Orville on there are people complaining that people mention The Orville so much. How much of a microbrain do you have to be to get pissed off at that?

And they'd probably say "lol that's just because you hate STD". But I don't. I can't hate it. It's everything I expected it would be. That's disappointing, but I came to terms with it long ago. I hate THEM, for their lack of thought. Guinan is right. Plebbit is a shitty place, and it's always been. I should have stayed away. But the Trek Plebbit right now embodies the worst of it.
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Burt Ryan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 04:53:26 EST ID:zOP6CW8s No.61512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yes, this is a good thing to exist

no, i can't fucking stand it
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Dr. Mizan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 05:07:57 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61512
Thanks for the well thought out and insightful reply.

nb
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Lt. Ro Laren - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 07:57:05 EST ID:lLULZtIw No.61514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh my god this fucking episode is already killing me.

It's the deadpan moments that make me laugh the most on this show.
Isaac: But to derive mirth from the pain of another being is sadism is it not?
Ed: It's case-by-case, I mean if a guy on a bike tries to do a trick and smashes his balls that's funny.

Bortus, our lord of deadpan seriousness: I would agree
This fucking slayed me.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 08:35:09 EST ID:lLULZtIw No.61515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61511
lol "brigaded"

Like when 4chon raids a subcirclejerk?
Or far more likely, what happens when a subleddit that loves saying crazy shit all the time accidentally gets themselves mentioned somewhere for saying crazy shit and the "Brigaders" take a peek and end up trolling themselves by reading the crazy shit and can't resist responding?

This isn't even that.

This is literally just Trek fans with different opinions. Not a single one of them wasn't already coming to the Star Trek subleddit for Discovery.

>and even mildly critical topics get downvoted.
Yeah I posted that youtube clip I made https://youtu.be/q1jvQFXRZR8 showing off the fucked up lens flares in ONE SPECIFIC SCENE of Star Trek Discovery and the post got railroaded with downvotes in the first two hours. Over the next day it slowly ticked its way back up and I got a bit of positive feedback.

So many strawman comments. I never hated lens flares or the aesthetic of Discovery. Just one scene that was physically and optically incorrect. And how disappointing it was to see that after the glorious space porn that the first two episodes were.
I've posted a couple of these kind of thing before on other subjects and I'd usually get enough traffic to bump me into the youtube recommendation algorithm for a few hours and come away with 1,500-3,000 views over the week, but the early downvotes just shut me out.

>THIS SUBcirclejerk IS FOR TWIZZLERS ONLY
>REDVINES POSTS WILL BE DELETED
>COMMENTS COMPARING REDVINES TO TWIZZLERS WILL BE DOWNVOTED
lol fuck off. Why can't we enjoy this deluge of Star Trek we're getting right now? This is so much better than the trickle of a Star Trek Continues episode every 6 months.
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Dr. Denara Pel - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:32:47 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61501
Were you attempting to make a point Guinan?
Or were you just being snarky and noncontributory?
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Emperor Reclaw - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:39:01 EST ID:bKYgMG8Z No.61517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61470
He was in S3 of Twin Peaks, that's where I noticed him from.
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Guinan - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 11:23:50 EST ID:XBknZVTB No.61518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61516
Did you watch the episode? Or are you attempting to miss a pun so obvious only a DISHONORABLE TOPAH would miss it?!
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Thrax - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 11:32:34 EST ID:7cbARsK9 No.61519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61515
wow plebbit needs that many words even to complain about it what a fagbag
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Kozak - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 12:13:44 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.61520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61518
Oh God damn it. I need to stop posting when I just wake up. My apologies. Don't banish me to another dimension or whatever you guys do.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 12:15:29 EST ID:lLULZtIw No.61521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61519
The important post was the first one.
I'm procrastinating in a community college library, nigga.

The only good subleddit is freefolk. It's full of fun and shitposting. It feels like the old days of chans but only about Game of Thrones. Y'all are great but you're not really active enough to effectively distract me from the Java program I'm trying not to write.

The lack of a high volume Star Trek shitposting outlet is disheartening.
I gotta give massive props to this thread though in that regard. Sehr gut.
>>>/1701/60678/
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Guinan - Sat, 07 Oct 2017 04:55:12 EST ID:XBknZVTB No.61552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61521
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Kira Meru - Sat, 07 Oct 2017 07:17:54 EST ID:vUVXPY3s No.61554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61511
I like how you make an effort to get around the word filters but then use the word "circlejerk" to describe it anyway.
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Grimp - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 08:57:40 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.61596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61521
>The lack of a high volume Star Trek shitposting outlet is disheartening.

It's mostly the abundance of new stuff coming out right now (The Orville, STD).
In the past there's been plenty of shitposting in between the SERIOUSTREKBUSINESS threads, and even those devolve into weirdness sometimes.
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B'Etor - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 23:12:58 EST ID:QkvMscRw No.61709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sir, fire on the bridge.
>What the hell happened to automatic fire suppression?
That's the panel that's on fire!
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Kirayoshi O'Brien - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 23:55:46 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This episode was excellent.
Every episode just gets better and better.
The crew composition at this point feels perfect, and it works so well. It was hit and miss early on when they were establishing the characters and the type of humor they would use but now that everything has been established and the crew has an authentic identity, it feels like they can't do anything wrong.
I haven't had a show that I lol from as much as this in a very long time. Comedy just kinda is dead right now. But the comedy in this show right now is spot on. And the jokes that feel like they were made just for me as a trek fan are just beautiful and it's kinda hard to put into words how great it is to see that on network tv. Oh look at me, getting all misty eyed talking about The Orville.. But yeah it's excellent.

I could ramble on all day about how much I love this show but I'll not give y'all a wall of text.
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Governor Torak - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 01:12:37 EST ID:bsMTOC3z No.61712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn this new ep was fucking amazing
Good story, good ethical dilemma, good character rapport with the pilot and Seth
Dude, they're SPACE VAMPIRES!
10/10 ep
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Rear Admiral Gregory Quinn - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:44:19 EST ID:jyfL/Gd3 No.61714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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"Oh wise and powerful Avis, please cover the loss of our vehicle."

Why did I laugh at this? Why am I still laughing at this? Fuck, man.
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Vedek Bareil - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:08:59 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.61721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61709
I know that joke's been done before but it's still a cute joke.
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Commander Donatra - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:23:07 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.61724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61712
I agree, is gonna be interesting what plot points arise now that they've captured a major enemy war vessel with all accompanying tech and data on their computers intact.

Like Mercer said in the ep, "Union anthroplogists are gunna have a field day with this".

I guess now the engineers can get in on the action too.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 24-10-2017 17:42:56
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Commander Donatra - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:24:12 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.61725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61724
fuck. mods plz fix spoilerz <3

nbdp
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Torg - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:26:56 EST ID:hfWBz9kA No.61728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61714

dude on the right look quite a bit like the guy who used to play g'kar
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Travis Mayweather - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:51:16 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.61736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61724
Anyone else find it barbaric that they murdered an entire crew just to get a bible? Yeah, I know the bomb...but the whole thing started because they wanted to steal a book of fairytales used to justify barbaric shit. Couldn't they have just rented a Krill hotel room and copied the Book of Avis the Gideons left?
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Composer Delvok - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 00:24:05 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.61737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61736
I mean thats what made the story interesting the moral choice to kill all the crew and save the colony or vice versa. From what they've shown so far the Union space is so limited that Krill ships and forces are seen at the fringes, but they made it seem that the Krill are extremely secular and may not have contact with other alien races even. It was just a good story about making extremely hard moral and ethical decisions and that's the heart of Trek.
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Karyn Archer - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 00:25:02 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61736
They killed the entire crew of people that were shelling a defenseless colony all because they claim that everything belongs to them. And they were about to destroy an other colony or something. But yeah there surely could have been easier ways to get a copy of the holy book, but they wouldn't have made for very good episodes.
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Karyn Archer - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 02:20:29 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, I just realized that the Krill are essentially Muslim extremists.
When talking with the Krill children they essentially said the reason that they kill humans is because they're infidels that don't use the same car rental agency. I mean it's not an exact metaphor but it's similar.
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Tom Paris - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 03:02:59 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
While I don't think it was really intentional the best part about this episode was how it pretty much did what STD is trying to do with the new Klingons but did it 1000 times better and in a single episode no less.

Also, that fucking opening theme. God, I love this show.
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Karyn Archer - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 03:04:56 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61743
I didn't realize it but you're right. They dun it, and look how fucking simple it was!!

And yes the theme is dream cream. It's possibly #3 best trek theme behind voyager and tng.
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Mezoti - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:28:08 EST ID:iows5Uco No.61763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61744
The language nerds who know Klingon are getting the best Discovery has to offer lol.

But tonights episode is gonna have federation dudes in prison. So if this show doesn't suck it's going to take that opportunity to slow the fuck down and give us some nice dialogue and character development on the Federation side.
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Tekeny Ghemor - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 02:09:58 EST ID:vDfMz9Zo No.61771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61763
And you were right. And it was nice tbh.
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Spock - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 23:39:18 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.61818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope I'm not the only one that prefers thursday coming around for TO rather than monday for STD...
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Cmdr. Peter Harkins - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 01:01:28 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.61819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61818

don't tell me you still engage in the obsolete practice of television viewing
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Donik - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 01:21:52 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61818
Thursdays can't come soon enough.
Watching Trek on Sundays' feels like an obligation or chore.
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Kornan - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 03:25:15 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61818
I watch STD whenever I can find the time. I take half days on Thursdays so I can watch Orville right after it airs and I always watch the intro. STD's gets skipped through.

>>61819
You still have to wait for the show to air. Unless something gets leaked Thursday is the earliest you can see Orville via any method and its Sunday for STD.
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Donik - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 04:06:58 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61821
Mercer best captain
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Cmdr. Peter Harkins - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:05:09 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.61826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It just occurred to me, Bortus is Teal'c.
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Donik - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 10:43:15 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61826
I was just watching an episode of SG1 yesterday where Teal'c chugs a boiling hot pot of coffee and this exact thought came to mind.
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Lt. JG Ayala - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:45:26 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.61829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I watched Krill earlier this week (on the same day I watched STD). The opening bit with Bortus is pretty great. Gordon shouting "we're totally going to come back to this" is a gag straight out of family guy, but it worked well enough. But I do hope they come back to it.

The first half of the episode was fairly weak. I'm loving the special effects in The Orville so far. It's all typical upgraded TNG and TOS stuff, but the drawn out shots make it work, they look pretty, the ship is front and centre in every external shot. Their cool space shit looks like cool space shit. And that's exactly what I want from cool space shit. However, I thought the comedy on the Krill ship fell a little flat. There were good bits and bad bits, but overall the show is too serious to expect us to suspend our disbelief to such degrees. I would have preferred it to be a little more subtle and a little more intelligent. Though the gag with "please cover the loss of our vehicle" was pretty great. I can see the intent was to have Gordon ride the tiger, with Ed being miffed, but it could have been executed better.

The second half is where it came in its own, though. It's a classic Trek question, and it was pretty tough to see that the crew's humanity in going through the effort to save these Krill kids lead them to kill the other Krill in such a horrible way. I think it's pretty clear that, in this scenario, there is no hope for understanding between the Union and the Krill. Not yet, at least. But a few fried Krill for 100.000 colonists? It's still fair.

The Orville is really piling on the feels, on occasion. The one time STD got to me, it was in a very negative way.

Another thing: Thus far I have watched every episode of The Orville with friends, and afterwards we find that we're often in the mood for TNG. Watch both back to back really emphasises how many pointers The Orville takes from TNG.
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Spock - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:00:43 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.61832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61819
I'm overseas, so I still have to wait for it to be aired. Usually pick it up the day after tho (mondays and fridays)
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Malcolm Reed - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:04:11 EST ID:TVUg96i3 No.61835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61827
He ain't nearly as swole as Teal'c.

But this is precisely why I love his character so much. He's the straight man bringing the biggest laughs.
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 06:24:38 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.61839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61826
Man, I would really love to see Teal'c fight Worf in hand to hand combat.
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Charles Tucker III - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 07:23:10 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61839
Teal'c would probably win. He spent decades pounding people into dust for the Goauld. But ds9 Worf would definitely put up a good fight.
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The Doctor - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:12:40 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.61847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61840
Plus, Teal'c has Junior to help him be all super-human and deadly.
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Corporal F Hawkins - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 23:23:05 EST ID:vDfMz9Zo No.61852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So no new episode tonight?
Lame..
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Weyoun 5 - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 02:52:53 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.61855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61852
Why :(
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T'Pol - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:28:20 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.61856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61855
Idk but I looked on tv guide and ep 7 will be next thursday. I guess they just skipped a week for whatever reason..
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Weyoun 7 - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:29:39 EST ID:fYg9wzgq No.61857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61856
Red Dwarf still happened if y'all need the sci-fi comedy fix.
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Weyoun 5 - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:30:31 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.61858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61856
Internet says they didn't want to conflict with World Series shit or whatever
Still, fuck that noise
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Weyoun 5 - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:33:03 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.61859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61857
I'd rather eat my own balls than watch that unfunny bullshit Weyoun 7
Man they really dropped the ball with my later iterations if that's what the Vorta enjoy watching nowadays
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Lt. George Primmin - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 04:51:08 EST ID:NQYwnkki No.61861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61859
you know vorta have no sense of aesthetics and many other things. they are just loyal rabbits.
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Weyoun 7 - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:10:42 EST ID:fYg9wzgq No.61864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61859
It's actually fine now. It was Back to Earth and Red Dwarf 10 that were trash.

Either way you get both of these shows on Thursday, and being rare scifi comedies that's neat. If seth made half hour orville for the rapid fire laughs it would be stepping all over red Dwarf's toes but he didn't and they're quite complementary.

I dunno what the hell happened between Grant and Naylor though that they won't get back together to make Red Dwarf what it used to be: more than cheap laughs upon pulp scifi concepts. Over 20 years and they're still not down to collab.

It's like they fucked in romantically lopsided circumstances.... for years.
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Weyoun 7 - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:13:42 EST ID:fYg9wzgq No.61865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61864
Also everyone knows taht the best Sci-Fi comedy is Star Trek 4.

>And double-dumbass on you!
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Noonian Soong - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:23:48 EST ID:pl9xfrjv No.61872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61858
nobody ruins a scifi series like Fox
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Montgomery Scott - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:08:34 EST ID:2xTrbl/0 No.61873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61864
>>61864
The pre Craig Charles going to prison for crimes the newspapers paid a woman to make series were good. Though I feel like 6 was starting to wobble in places.

Grant and Naylor are both pretty weak by themselves. I wonder if they pick each other to pieces and that's what drove the stuff they did together to be good as well as why they won't work together now.
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Michael Jonas - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:12:19 EST ID:O2Y4kuLa No.61891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61887
>Dave Cullen

Fuck off Dave Cullen
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Legate Porania - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 22:04:10 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.61898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61847

teal'c is still a mere hue-mon, even with his parasite
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Odo - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 00:59:07 EST ID:HUGgOkbB No.61902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I managed to watch the first episode of this and it's actually pretty decent. I have a feeling it's not gonna last long on FOX though.
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Legate Damar - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 01:28:48 EST ID:aBP3+y8b No.61904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61902
First episode is trash.
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Legate Porania - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 01:56:23 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.61906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61904

I myself have yet to review it, I have seen every other episode thus far.
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Broik - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 02:20:57 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.61907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61904
The first episode spends a lot of time developing the ex husband and wife dynamic and was pretty bad. but the second episode redeems and justifies it IMO. Episode 3 I'd skip but its not as bad as episode 1. After that they've all been great though.
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Sarek - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:59:52 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.61959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61933

So, do you object to Seth's incarnation being counted among starfleet's best onscreen peers?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:45:04 EST ID:TJt/VdSR No.61979 Report Quick Reply
I got caught up on the past four episodes and it's gotten better. I did have a question though. Wouldn't the Union have some sort of prime directive when it comes to interacting with people that aren't advanced civilizations and don't even know that they're on a spaceship? I'm hoping they address that in the series at some point.
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Liquidator Brunt - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 01:22:59 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.61985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61979

they didn't know the people didn't know they were on a ship, also it was going into the sun... and the only way they could grow was if they retook control of the ship, they were never going to advance or thrive in that fishbowl
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Tom Paris - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:23:41 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Critics with their heads up their asses can't give Seth Macfarlane a chance.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/orville/s01
18% critics score, 92% audience score

And then of course
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star_trek_discovery/s01
82% critics score, 58% audience

Funny how they give this garbage Trek iteration so much slack (even calling it good when it clearly isn't) but hammer The Orville for little things.
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Ambassador Shras - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:40:16 EST ID:2xTrbl/0 No.62011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61979
The prime directive thing played on my mind. Real trek would have debated the ethics and whether it's a violation or not given the circumstances and the tech they have, that would have been the source of drama/replaced the comedy. As it's "Orville" and it's a comedy I was happy to let it slide. But anyway if it was Trek and if they had gone with the same choice of action they'd have done well to have finished with a visual metaphor as good.

Pulling the ship away was also a classic move from the Roddenberry play book.
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Tom Paris - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 18:05:51 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61979
In this case it's debatable what the right choice would be by Starfleet standards I think. The obvious moral right would be to let them know what was going on but technically, even though they were very advanced at one point, it would be interfering with their natural evolution.
But wouldn't it not count because technically they are an advanced civilization, just kinda lulled into a false state of mind?
I feel like Picard would have saved them. Idk if he would have told them though. I feel like letting them drift would just be dooming them eventually and I don't know if Picard would have done that.
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Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:18:14 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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New episode tonight!!
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Simon Tarses - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:28:45 EST ID:e2ims8Kv No.62051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62049
I was gonna orchestrate a whole troll campaign to trick shitheads into parroting shit like this on twitter.

Then I realized it was happening anyway and too many of that guy exist for it to possibly work as a joke.

Fuck that dude who wrote the twitter bot to troll conservatives too. I mean, that's hilarious but the polarizing garbage needs to tone it the fuck down, because that's how you end up with that guy and his laughable, force-fed opinions.
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Simon Tarses - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:29:47 EST ID:e2ims8Kv No.62052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For fucks sake, can you stop micromanaging this board mods?

You're not fast enough to do what you're doing.
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Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:49:36 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62052
So you'd rather have this faggot necrobumping and shitposting all over the board?
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Gralik Durr - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:52:48 EST ID:MB96DJZX No.62054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62053
Jeez this is an online image board stop being so invested and go outside for a change you degenerate neckbeard fuck
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Simon Tarses - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:03:34 EST ID:e2ims8Kv No.62055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62053
See here's the problem with not taking action in swift and complete fashion.

You can no longer see the posts that justify my complaint and yet mine remain.
It wasn't one faggot necrobumping, they also attempted to wipe all the replies, and reply replies, an end to which the mods have failed.

Please delete all of these posts if that's how far we're taking it. I'll see you cunts after tonight's episode.
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Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:38:18 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62054
Lol, a bit uncalled for don't you think?

I just like this board, it's probably the only good one remaining on this site, and it doesn't get shitted up very often. I'm glad they're wiping the dude. You need to relax.
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David Marcus - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:19:15 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How has Star Trek not sued the shit out of this rip off at this point?

Why is this thread not on /mtv/? nb
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Toral - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:43:46 EST ID:7Ew1l4c7 No.62073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62060
because its the best trek since ds9
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DoBa-sama - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:06:44 EST ID:CYkx7vzT No.62076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62073
DS9 wasn't really Trek. It didn't have that cerebral aspect that TNG did. It was a drama which while good in its own right, didn't Trek. Nothing but the horrors of war was explored. It had glimmers of it much like VOY had glimmers of not being even worse than TAS. ENT was far better than most want to admit.

The one thing keeping me from even watching The Orville is I fucking cannot stand McFarlane. And i spend my money on dope and not internet. Lol. That and it seems too much like Galaxy Quest but with fucking the king of shitty comedy. Nb im drunk
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Gralik Durr - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:12:42 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62076
The fucking cunt is just living out a childhood dream / vanity project and forcing us to endure it, I actually like Seth McIrishLane so I'm watching with a critical eye for anything that I deem offensive
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Guinan - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:15:33 EST ID:sMB9jtuf No.62095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
I didn't get to see the newest one, how was it?

No spoilers pls, unless you spoiler your spoilers so if anyone spoils the spoiler tag then the spoiler gets spoiled and the burden of spoilers rests not on you but the individual
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Tuvok - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:05:14 EST ID:DLflhF/h No.62096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62076
>spend all money on dope.
I understand your suffering.
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Arne Darvin - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:08:18 EST ID:e2ims8Kv No.62097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuck circlejerk
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Gaila - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:12:25 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62076
It has a 92% audience score on RT. And a 40 something critics because a lot of critics, like you, refuse to give it a chance. Your loss.
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DaiMon Birta - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:03:56 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.62100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62076
>DS9 wasn't really Trek.
>ENT was far better than most want to admit
>I fucking cannot stand McFarlane

So.... you just base your opinions on being as contrarian as possible? Let me guess, you're also regularly saying that Rick & Morty is terrible and that atheists are just as bad as religious extremists? Any other dumb platitudes you feel like sharing?
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:09:59 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62099
92% of like 10 people is still not a lot of people, your stats are bullshit stop defending this price of shit
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Gaila - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:13:17 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62101
Lol
Well that's the consensus. People who have actually watched the show enjoy it. If he hurt your butt that badly by making dumb cartoons, that's your loss.

Last night's episode was really good. Parts reminded me of that Black Mirror episode "Nosedive."
I certainly wasn't expecting any real social commentary from this show, or at least not good commentary, so it was refreshing and surprising.

After the first few episodes, the show has stayed constant with good quality content. Next episode looks like there's gonna be lots of action, should be dope.
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:15:53 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62105
>social commentary
Social commentary is like assholes, everyone's got one and they all are shit
Go back to /pol/
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Admiral Owen Paris - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:26:02 EST ID:vM1etpFv No.62110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62106
Shit, I never realized it was more about the stars and trekking than the social commentary.
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The Traveler - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:47:15 EST ID:U6G+tWge No.62111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62106
Social commentary is a vital element of trek. Have you never watched it before?
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DaiMon Birta - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:51:00 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.62112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just report the troll instead of feeding him. nb.
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Dr. Yuris - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 13:14:41 EST ID:UbixIY2k No.62116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62060
Copyright law allows for derivative and parody works as long as they transform the original into new-ish content. Youtube video rats have been battling DMCA over this point for years.
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 13:43:41 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62111
Yeah commentary not communism
Just cramming politics into everything doesn't inherently make it good or insightful
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 13:44:29 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62113
Gene Rodenberry would roll in his grave if he could see family guy in space
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Gaila - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:10:14 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62106
Kindly go back to tinfoil, you're a shitty troll.
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:28:48 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62123
>>62116
But it's like a shot for shot rip off, like I really don't get why Jason Isaacs would want competition like that

Just seems lazy is all I'm say, can I have my opinion? Is that ok Stalin?
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Gaila - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:40:00 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62124
You can, but you can't have a valid one. And considering that you're so retarded (which you have to know this right?) maybe you shouldn't swing vitriol around as if you're a person with a brain.
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:46:49 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62126
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Dr. Yuris - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:48:15 EST ID:UbixIY2k No.62133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62095
It was mostly okay. It was also the most ham-handed ep so far in its metaphors. Nil subtext, everything on the surface but I didn't mind it. I didn't love it, either. It felt like the writers phoned this one in.
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Dr. Yuris - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:55:41 EST ID:UbixIY2k No.62134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61979
>Wouldn't the Union have some sort of prime directive

They probably have A Rule but not A Rule With Wings like Trek. It's an important rule and if you break it you're in deep shit but they don't tattoo it on your forehead before giving you the keys to your starship.
Orville already treads so close to Trek but has drawn lines at things like transporters. If I was writing the show I'd want to avoid parroting the Prime Directive. There are plenty of other moral and ethical dilemmas to conjure up.

Also, everyone please STOP feeding the faggot troll. He's getting multiple angry replies for every post, like every good troll should. You're being baited into shitting up your own board. Smarten up.
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:57:37 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62133
That's one way of putting it, I mean Seth McCrackhead has been phoning it in on family guy for yeeeeeeeeears, I mean Brian dying was just him not wanting to have his voice associated with the show, actually voice*
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Major J Hayes - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:00:31 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62134
In the last episode, they made it clear that they have something very similar to the prime directive. So I guess they aren't avoiding that.

They said that they weren't allowed to interfere with underdeveloped civilizations, and that's why they couldn't rescue black con guy.
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Prosecutor Orak - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:23:11 EST ID:GqzBKDIc No.62141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62134
Aren't you feeding the troll by telling people not to feed the troll? Or maybe you are the troll and this is all just a sick game?
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Jean-Luc Picard - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 06:46:40 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.62152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I liked the newest episode.

It's a lot like Black Mirror's Nosedive. But Nosedive is one of my least favorite Black Mirror episodes because it doesn't really make a point. This episode of The Orville keeps things moving. I suppose it's down to the traditional style of The Orville versus Black Mirror. This episode makes it a point to set out story beats that gradually reveal the function of this society to us, while Black Mirror is more obtuse by design. Black Mirror relies a lot on the mystery of its settings, and likes keeping information from the viewer. As with previous episodes, though, I thought the crew was slightly retarded. I wish Seth would write them as slightly smarter people, and it wouldn't have to mean a change in the story. They could find out about the anthropologists from watching local TV instead of being stupid, and they could just use those smartphones to look up who the statue lady was. In fact, it could have lead to a funny bit where Kelly has to mime to John as he is on air, while Alara looks up the info and the lawyer guy thinks they're idiots. Missed oppertunity, Seth.

Overall, I agree with someone else who said it feels like a TOS/TNG mashup. This episode was very, very TOS. In terms of theme, it's the most Trek-like episode yet, and there are recognizable bits in there from a lot of similar Trek episodes. Then again, it's a trope that Trek has used a LOT.
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Ambassador Thoris - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 06:53:15 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.62153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62152

lamarr's character was extremely terrible in this episode
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Major J Hayes - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:09:37 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62153
Unfortunately I have to agree with this. He's best when he's just hitting us with 1-liners at this point. That's not to say that I don't enjoy his character thoroughly when he's simply doing that, but I feel like that's what he's really good at and that the writers really missed an opportunity to make him more than that.
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Vice Admiral Nakamura - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 14:32:58 EST ID:IjgU5nFn No.62163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62153
>lamarr's character was extremely terrible in this episode
are you deaf?
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Ghee P'Trell - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 12:15:11 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.62184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62153
No kidding.
Stereotypical Black Guy much?

Also, the Doctor was shit. She just became Wise Black Woman. Shit, every character was crap. Except Bortus and his one liner about singing. Now THAT was a classic Sci-fi series style joke. Teal'C or Worf could also have pulled it off flawlessly.
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Thot Pran - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 19:32:54 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The Orville has been renewed for season 2

Rejoice!!

https://deadline.com/2017/11/the-orville-renewed-for-season-2-fox-seth-macfarlane-1202200369/
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Biddle Coleridge - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 19:41:30 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.62355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62353
Qapla'
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M'ret - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:07:12 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.62360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62353
>a scifi series on Fox makes it to season 2
woah
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Emperor Sompek - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 01:13:57 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.62362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Another quality episode of Star Trek: Orville. Can't wait to see where they go with it now that they have a second season. At this point I couldn't care less about Disco. I'll keep watching it and while I do hope it gets better its not a huge deal if it doesn't. I'm more than fine with just TNG take 2. I can't think of a single episode of STD that has been on par with even the worst episode of ST: Orville.
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Arik Soong - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 03:53:19 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.62363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This episode was pretty good
>Now entering the glory hole
Goddamnit Bordis you always make me laugh
Good to hear it made it to season 2 though, here's to 2 more!
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Vice Admiral Leyton - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 05:09:37 EST ID:7Ew1l4c7 No.62364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62362
what episode? I don't see anything on the website. last one was last week
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Emperor Sompek - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 05:39:30 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.62365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62364
They skipped last week. New episode was tonight.
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Emperor Sompek - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 05:43:42 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.62366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62364
>>62365

My bad. They skipped an episode 2 weeks ago not last week but there was definitely an episode tonight: The Orville S01E08 - Into the Fold

NB
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Roger Lemli - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 11:32:27 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Last night's episode was great. I love that The Orville kinda treated kids like the little shits they are instead of like little shining beacons of hope, like they do in TNG.
And then Isaac's nonstop roasting of the kids was excellent. He's worse than Data with the terrible off color remarks. Great choice because it's really funny.
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Lore - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 11:48:01 EST ID:rZIX04Ya No.62373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62370
Naming the robot Isaac is seriously the most unoriginal thing in McFarlanes long abortion of a career

But yeah I wouldn't want kids to get their sticky hands all over this $6000 suit
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Roger Lemli - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 13:06:03 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62373
It's just an homage. At one point one of the con guys called him Isaac Assihole. I thought it was funny.
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Lore - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 13:32:35 EST ID:rZIX04Ya No.62382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62377
I thought that scene was hamfisted

It saying 2+2=4 is funny because it's factually correct
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Lore - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 13:33:21 EST ID:rZIX04Ya No.62383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62382
*it's like

English is confusing nb
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Roger Lemli - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 17:58:39 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62382
You're complaining that a joke on The Orville was hamfisted?
Have you been watching the show? It could be said that every single joke made in the show is hamfisted. It's not the utmost in high brow humor. I'm not sure why you'd expect that.
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Lore - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:52:08 EST ID:rZIX04Ya No.62392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62390
Stop liking that I don't like things
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Mestral - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:10:06 EST ID:a1Lcdrvt No.62410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just saw a comment that IQ think encapsulates the show perfectly.

>*M*A*S*H in space
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Pax - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 18:03:34 EST ID:vDfMz9Zo No.62411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62410
I've heard MASH was great.
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I.G. Tarah - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:10:15 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.62412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62411
The movie was.
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Lore - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 00:40:39 EST ID:52qIw6x9 No.62420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
I love this show. Also every time Seth speaks I can't help but imagine Brian Griffin in my minds eye and I giggle.
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Kessick - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:38:37 EST ID:pBmJ+Nqv No.62541 Report Quick Reply
Bumping for new episode tonight

>>62060
Actually there is >>>/mtv/388063

>>62353
Thank god they renewed it
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Commander Dolim - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 23:56:57 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It took me a minute to realize that blue dude is Rob Lowe. That's pretty awesome.

Awesome prosthetics and costumes this episode. The people in charge of that stuff are really creative. The purple dudes with the bone things on their heads reminded me of the Minbari.

The whole pheromone thing made for a classic trek conflict feeling a lot like a TNG episode. Lots of hilarious moments in this episode. It was probably the funniest episode to date.

And from the brief preview, it looks like next week's episode will be a classic trek format episode too. Something something the ship is stuck in purgatory.

I feel like Seth Macfarlane touched me with his blue alien pheromones.
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Prosecutor Orak - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:02:27 EST ID:xSIPOgbX No.62546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62544

Gay love MacFarlane is much better than the real thing. We need to get that man a boyfriend.
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Rekelen - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 02:06:06 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.62547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62544
Agreed, another fantastic episode.
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Prosecutor Orak - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 02:25:59 EST ID:xSIPOgbX No.62548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62547
Unlike many episodes, this one is a real parody.

TOS and TNG both did the drunk/horny pheromones affecting the crew. This was a spin on it that Star Trek wouldn't have taken: A dude and his ex-wife both become giddy over and eventually fuck Rob Lowe
Kasidy Yates fucks Odo in slime form because of course that's how that works

Also Nurse Bashir synthesizes a pheromone that makes the Jem'Hadar fall in love with the Bajorans until such time as Sisko can negotiate a goddamn peace treaty
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Natasha Yar - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 03:01:31 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.62549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This new episode was awesome
Love Rob Lowe, it was just a fun watch overall
The fact that this show has been renewed warms the cockles of my heart
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Commander Dolim - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 03:15:52 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62548
>:nj: Nurse Bashir synthesizes a pheromone that makes the Jem'Hadar fall in love with the Bajorans until such time as Sisko can negotiate a goddamn peace treaty

Such a hilarious concept. This is why I love this show. At this point the comedy is so on point.
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Admiral Owen Paris - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:02:29 EST ID:ZcPIz+KN No.62560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The new episode, holy shit that was great. Space KStew has finally relaxed into the role and for all the shit thrown at McFarlane for his acting he really went for it in this episode and it fucking worked. I can't remember the last time I watched something on tv and laughed all the way through. Right from that opening teaser with Bortis. you could see the joke coming from a mile away but it still held together and worked and I loved it.

YOU WILL BE SILENT!
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Admiral Owen Paris - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:05:18 EST ID:ZcPIz+KN No.62561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also, Adrianne Palicki did an AMA on The Orville's sub-you-know-what yesterday and it is a love-in. Go check it out.
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Private W Woods - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:29:47 EST ID:10tDboXQ No.62777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59221
Holy shit. Another Star Trek Actor now in The Orville! (Holo doctor from Voyager)
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Crystal Form - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:36:01 EST ID:+W9kASwG No.62779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62777
Hahahahahaha!!!! That must really stick in CBS' craw! Seeing beloved trek actors spurn their "licensed" Trek for a fox show. Great stuff
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Ardon Broht - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:53:26 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Holy shit, I totally forgot there was a new episode tonight!

Huzzah!!!
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Ardon Broht - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 04:14:58 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cmdr Grayson: Okay, this is gonna sound like I'm talking out my ass, but hear me out
Isaac: Well then please try to enunciate

I just realized that the dude who plays Gordon is also the voice actor for Steve in American Dad.
At this point I think Alara is my favorite character. She seems to be the most compelling and I enjoy episodes that are focused on her a lot, though I don't think that any of the other characters are lacking. Not to mention that Alara is fucking hot and exactly my type. Except maybe black helmsman, clowns fear lol he's a little stereotypical but not overly and it works. It's nowhere near the horrible stereotypes in STD.
Also, I am starting to notice that even the actor that plays Isaac does his role pretty well. There's a commitment to the mannerisms and body language that he uses that really works for the character and is pulled off well.

Random Thoughts
It's pretty funny, now that we've seen some of STD and ORV (I'm gonna start using that abbv) and thinking back to how the studios and cast tried to hype up the show. For many months before STD, the cast and CBS were just constantly jerking each other/themselves off about how they're a part of something glorious and special, and how honored they are.
The Orville kinda just revealed a couple months ahead of time and didn't really hype the show up or talk much about it at all. There weren't a bunch of cast members telling everyone how great they all are, showing up at cons for half assed photo ops, etc. And it turns out that The Orville is the one that is actually special, even though it's a spoof. It's the one that shows reverence and respect for trek, and it will definitely stand the test of time much longer than Discovery, at least at this point that seems very clear.
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Fer'at - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:04:17 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.62782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62781
Agreed, fantastic episode
Orville is the new TNG and I love it
The stories, the characters, top notch, good work McFarlance
You might get a lot of shit for being Family guy but damnit if that if that man doesn't love himself some trek and it shows in ORV
Looking forward to another season
FOX you better not fuck this up and only have 2 seasons, renew this shit for 3 and 4 NOW
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Noonian Soong - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:27:21 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.62787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62782
I read one of those negative pieces on The Orville, and the writer proceeded to shit on McFarlane for being transphobic and misogynist. Then he gave two examples: A Family Guy bit, and the "we saw your boobs" song he did for the Oscars.

The Family Guy bit wasn't transphobic. The only way one could interpet it that way is if you assume the characters are mouthpieces that are meant to be taken 100% seriously. And personally, I find it kind of hard to agree with everything a psychopath baby mad scientist and a wishy-washy liberal talking dog say. They're not just characters, they're charicatures. The joke was that they spend some time shooting the shit about how Quagmire's dad is trans, and how it's super obvious. And then it turns out Brian slept with her, which disgusts him despite being into it when he actually did it. It's a joke about people's attitudes towards transgenderism, and the people who don't get it are either the ones who want to hate trans people and see themselves in it, or sissies who get triggered by people that offend them being displayed as offensive.

The boob song was just him making a joke about the fact that there's this odd disparity between lustful portrayals of tits, and artsy portrayals of tits. Every woman he mentions in that song did it voluntarily, two of them in artful films, yet he's a misogynist for pointing out that we did, in fact, see their boobs? I think these permanently offended people simply do not get humour of any kind, because as people are eager to keep pointing out, McFarlane's humour isn't particularly difficult to understand.

Someone on Plebbit made the very good point that in Cupid's Dagger Ed shows stereotypical female behaviour while Kelly shows stereotypical male behaviour, and that this has been consistent throughout the show. Which isn't the way a misogynist would write characters.
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Syrran - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:24:57 EST ID:X/gcf3Z5 No.62791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62781
I've not loved Orville as much as most but I totally agree with the random thought here. For all the shortcomings it's from people who actually do value trek and are honoured, all those DIS actors were just honoured to be on a big roll franchise, that it was trek is basically a coincidence. Voyager tried to be TNG again and look where that took it but these guys at least give a shit and that does show.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:25:54 EST ID:pBmJ+Nqv No.62821 Report Quick Reply
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The Orville's season is being cut by one episode and will air next season instead due to scheduling issues - http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/news/a843131/seth-macfarlane-orville-season-1-cut-short/. Also no new episode on Thursday due to Thanksgiving.

>>62777
Make that two actors from Star Trek in that episode, pic related
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Belongo - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 20:32:20 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.62823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62821
First off, did anyone else feel like the last episode should have been the Halloween episode? I feel like someone fucked up the scheduling on that alone.

Watching Orville and STD is kinda bizarre. One is doing big long story arcs, and another is totally vibing on the TNG formula and doing some nice bottle episodes. Sort of like, I get my classic Trek, but only as a very expensive, and albeit well done, fan series. Where they had to change the names and everything because of the lawyers or some shit.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:46:41 EST ID:pBmJ+Nqv No.62827 Report Quick Reply
>>62823
Yeah they probably could have aired that as a Halloween episode. And The Orville is to 30 Rock as Star Trek Discovery is to Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, plain and simple.
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Belongo - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:29:48 EST ID:nuPPHgen No.62842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62827
I applaud your simile. Well put...
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Lt. Cmdr. Calvin Hudson - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 21:01:08 EST ID:1ikMRpCl No.62849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's the real question: where can you watch TO for free?
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Senator Tal'aura - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 21:24:54 EST ID:KuWXTHZF No.62850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62849
Download it from http://snahp.it/tag/the-orville/
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 21:41:59 EST ID:Evq38th7 No.62852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62849
Probably /1701/tube.
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Trentin Fala - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:02:16 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62852
this as well. Come to the tube and I'm sure we can play some of The Orville for you
Alternatively, thevideo.io or openload.Ca or it might be ac not sure.
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Senator Tal'aura - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:32:51 EST ID:KuWXTHZF No.62854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There is a fan podcast that has guests from the show.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/planetary-union-network-the-orville-fan-podcast/id1262820672?mt=2
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Senator Tal'aura - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:34:20 EST ID:KuWXTHZF No.62855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck Apple. Go to their page.

https://planetaryunionnetwork.podbean.com/
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Trentin Fala - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 23:56:54 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62855
I'm enjoying the one with Brannon Braga.
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Captain Kurn - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:46:58 EST ID:cKjkZ/BS No.62936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Recent interview at Google Talks. They reference the show's renewal. Includes some behind the scenes clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N54eNGRDH8
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James T Kirk - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:26:12 EST ID:6ddPToJn No.62946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>62854

>podcast

you mean "video"?
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Captain Shelby - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 21:00:02 EST ID:ZwSvWNa1 No.62952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62946

I fuckin' hate the trend of youtube podcasts. I've never streamed youtube on an iPod.

If your shit's not clearly downloadable, said shit ain't a podcast.
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Rekelen - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 06:46:06 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.62994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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New episode is out guise
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Guinan - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 17:08:20 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62994
it's got a great little speech in the middle about post-scarcity, basically equating reputation as the currency of choice, self-improvement being a way of improving capital, etc.

I love the Orville. It's a great Star Trek.
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Gralik Durr - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 18:26:13 EST ID:4EQHMjO6 No.63004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63001
That's one thing that bugged me about Trek. "The economics of the 24th century are a bit different." Okay, but different how? The various series seemed to stumble around and avoid the question instead of putting it to bed. I don't blame them for it. It's a tough-ish question to deal with and if you commit to a shitty answer you're married to it. Better to kick the can down the road and hope someone else has a bit of inspiration while wrestling with it. In the meantime things turned into a bit of a mush when trying to cope with shit like gold-pressed latinum - what would S̶p̶a̶c̶e̶J̶e̶w̶s̶ Ferengi be focusing on when bartering with a post-scarcity Federation?

The 'your reputation gets you the good shit' explanation seems wobbly to me, but I can go with it.
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B'Etor - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 20:01:37 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63004
I always figured that the point of the Ferenghi is that they were so backwards, as to be still entrenched in Capitalism out of pride and stupidity.

And I always wondered about the latinum. It seemed like it was used in this weird parallel economy that existed between cultures, and I guess, individuals too. One that you could participate in to get shit without an exchange rate and the nightmare of having to bank off planet. Always seemed like it was only used by some people for shady shit. I mean, that is how it came across on DS9. You never saw Cisco saving up for some new kicks. Shit, he could just replicator up fucking old timey baseball uniforms if he wanted. The latinum was always something that bad guys fucked with and sleazy folk were around. Not that Starfleet officers weren't above gambling with it and shit, but it was still kinda filthy in the way they used it.

Very jump suit communism of them to write like that....
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Lt. Daniels - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 23:26:34 EST ID:WTslG4QB No.63008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63005
Even a theoretically post-scarcity society like Star Trek it seems logical that there's still scarcity. Everyone can't have as much space, energy, time, and access to things that are naturally limited such as events or venues. There would still obviously be a scarcity of real estate since not everyone can live where they want given a large interstellar population and a finite amount of desirable space in the galaxy.

Plus... someone still has to do the various jobs that can't be automated easily. They may be in the minority, but they still need to be done. On a related note it really comes off as weird when we see aliens in Trek, that are capable of interstellar travel, using organic slave labor. At a certain tech level it's just more practical and economic to automate and use robots.

It only makes sense for the Ferengi to use latinum for the things that are actually scarce.
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Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 02:31:56 EST ID:cfYAK2WC No.63010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63005
Agreed I feel like latinum is used pretty much exclusively for gambling, jewelry, and trading for space heroin.

>>63008
>On a related note it really comes off as weird when we see aliens in Trek, that are capable of interstellar travel, using organic slave labor. At a certain tech level it's just more practical and economic to automate and use robots.

e.g. cardassians and romulans. They've been around long enough you'd think they'd employ massive drone armies star wars style to do all their dirty work. I'd imagine replicator tech would bring robot manufacturing/deployment to a devastating level tactically. It'd be cool if they did try it a long time ago but after they all cyloned out they decided never to attempt it again like with humans and the eugenics wars. Or if they all tried making their own Datas but ended up with Lores everytime so they gave up. So many possibilities..
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Ensign Wright - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:08:24 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.63013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Holy shit: Lamar is Wesley but cool. He's the whiz kid at the helm.

I really like the dynamic betwen Lamar, Isaac and Yaphit. The technobabble between the three of them feels like Wesley, Data and Geordi (respectively) going at it to solve a problem. I'd be lying if I said I didn't get an erection from this episode. The Orville manages to reproduce the feel and themes of TNG, while taking so many little things that I hated about TNG and turning them on their head and making them endearing and awesome.

Also I really love the way The Orville treats special effects. They're not just trying to show off their technical prowess like they do on Discovery, it's more like they start with trying to make something beautiful then go from there. It's about the aesthetics, and they really pull it off. All of the anomalies and stuff that they've run into this season where they've had the chance to show off SFX came out really pretty.
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Guinan - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 14:29:15 EST ID:WXJ89PpX No.63015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63013
Nah man.. Lamar is Geordi!
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B'Etor - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 15:08:25 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63013
Gonna agree on the SFX. They seem appropriately optimistic. STD has a certain dark aesthetic to the ships and the effects. Plus, that dramatic lens flare. Orville has a nicer, more dynamic look to their shit. And it holds together. They really stick to the aesthetics and keep the look going. They also use the effects to advance the plot. Sometimes in STD they seem stuck on for the wow factor.
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Vic Fontaine - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 22:58:46 EST ID:NmJ0Aupw No.63019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63013
>He's the whiz kid at the helm.
That's actually Geordi, bub. It's tempting to tune out the early parts of season 1 I know.
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Captain Rixx - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 03:32:39 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Honestly, I find it hilarious that ST:Orville seems to unintentionally be doing many storylines STD tries to do before they do it and so much better.

I thought this weeks episode was a refreshing take on the alternative dimension/ "mirror universe" thing. I'm also a big fan of Flatland, the movie and the short, as well as the Dot and the Line and thought it was very well done. I wish we would have gotten to explore it more in the future. Hopefully, they will revisit it somehow in the future.

Kind of bummed they canceled an episode from this season. I hope the wait isn't too long for season 2. I couldn't give two fucks about Disco at the point even though I hope it turns itself around.

Happy holidays everyone!
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Lt. Cmdr. Argyle - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:36:19 EST ID:sjQCKXEc No.63026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63021

Bets about the future:
>ST:D is going to look more like the Orville next "season" or whatever they call it.
>Orville will get 3 seasons and 2 movies.
>Orville will cause a reboot of Galaxy Quest
>Les Moonves will die alone
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Timothy Lang - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 13:29:02 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.63028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63026
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/18/galaxy-quest-amazon-tv-series-back-on/
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Rionoj - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 15:57:41 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.63030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63028
Fuck yeah!
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Cmdr. Peter Harkins - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 10:13:03 EST ID:QY4RgQYW No.63037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63028
I'm not sure how I feel about Paul Scheer writing it, but I guess that's what we were saying about Macfarlane.
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Guinan - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 16:28:43 EST ID:GwChYndC No.63038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63037
>that feel when we'll have 2 trek-like shows that will be more trek than real trek
>there will be 3 trek shows on simultaneously, and only one of them will carry the name

What a time to be alive
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Jannar - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 21:39:00 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.63049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63028
um, also this possibility apparently: https://deadline.com/2017/12/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-movie-jj-abrams-1202220032/

>Sources said that Tarantino has come up with a great idea for a Star Trek movie at Paramount. After sharing his idea with JJ Abrams (who himself is busy prepping Star Wars Episode IX), I’ve heard the plan is to assemble a writers room of scribes who’ll hear Tarantino’s take and begin to put together a movie. If it all works out, Tarantino might direct it, with Abrams producing.

Holy shit, honestly I bet he would bring some awesome shit to Star Trek. Hopefully JJ and Pegg let someone else do the thinking.
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Guinan - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 22:42:35 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63049
>FUCHSIA BLOOD EVERYWHERE

I am kinda interested to see where this goes, but you know Tarrantino would probably be making it darktrek

it just might actually be decent for a change


...maybe

HEY ALSO- wasn't Meyer supposedly directing a Trek movie? Seems plausible we could be talking about the same movie, maybe Tarrantino is only writing it? Or something?
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Michael Sullivan - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 01:36:40 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63051
at this point nothing they do will satisfy me short of
>Post Nemesis story where the Giant Spocks from TAS come back and take control of the Federation
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DaiMon Bok - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 02:41:38 EST ID:EwXfjtAV No.63053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63051

It's all bullshit.
But it's bullshit that everybody wants to believe.
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Curzon Dax - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 03:48:33 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.63054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63053
:(
I kinda want to see a Tarantino Trek
I would enjoy seeing a Trek movie with a complex (perhaps non-linear) plot with very well written characters and banter (classic 'Tino).
>It ain't the coffee in my kitchen, it's the dead Kazon in my garage
>Oh Lt. Jimmy...
>No-no-no, I wanna ask you a question. When you dropped out of transwarp, did you see a sign on my starbase that said dead-Kazon-storage?
>Lt. Jimmy you know I-
>DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN IN FRONT OF MY STARBASE THAT SAID DEAD-KAZON-STORAGE
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Admiral T'Lara - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 09:29:42 EST ID:sjQCKXEc No.63055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63054

How about Tarantino make a space movie that is original and does not rely on brand recognition instead of good writing?
Seriously I already hate this racist twat anyway. Last thing I want is Sisko yelling the N word so that Quentin can get his racist jollies off.
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Jannar - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:54:35 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.63057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63055
So it's racist to portray racism??
That's a very simple mind you got there buddy.

And what would you just prefer an other JJ movie?
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Pavel Chekov - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 13:14:18 EST ID:wxvIFlM0 No.63059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63057
It's not racist to portray racism a couple times, no. Just like it's not violence obsession to portray every single one of your characters dying a horrible bloody death. But it is if you do it *every* *fucking* *movie,* for the whole damn runtime. I thought it was a good idea too until this post but T'Lara is 100% right, this is what he would do, he would rape-murder Trek and leave it for dead.

As opposed to JJ Trek uhm, actually someone both with a brain and desire to create more quality Trek (as opposed to someone with their own brand to maintain like Quent) but that won't happen under the current corporate relationship the brand is run under. We fucked, its flaretrek forever.
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Toral - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 21:09:44 EST ID:nsypb/lK No.63067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63059

I'm sorry, I'm not following your logic. At what arbitrary point does portraying racism become racism, then? 50% of your movies? 75%? 99%? By extension, can you not be a racist if 0% of your movies have portrayed racism? In what way does portraying racism, in any quantity, correlate to being a racist?

I've seen no argument at all for why Tarantino is a racist. Simply using racism as a recurring thematic element in your films doesn't make you a racist. At no point does he appear to glorify or endorse racism. About the closest argument you could make for him being a racist is that awful BET interview he did, although I would consider that more as evidence for some kind of autism spectrum disorder.

You're entitled to not like Tarantino, but this "Tarantino can't do Trek he's a racist!" argument is pure horseshit and you're both dumb cunts.
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Guinan - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 22:02:48 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63067
Quentin Tarrantino loves to say the word N I G G E R but he is white
hmmm.... probably not racist since he can't actually see what people look like because his giant chin is in the way, he might even think he's black since he's effectively blind due to that handicap

Alright, all trolling aside, the constant thematic elements pointing to racism shows me that he's hung up on it, I don't think about that shit except when I'm basically forced to, because Trek taught me to look past the fleshy exterior to the goey, goey core within.

Tarrantino can't do Trek because he'd fuck it up, unless he's doing a segment on the Orion Syndicate, that might be good. I hope the movie is just some Pulp Fiction / Resevoir Dogs in space with Yridians and Ferengi and Samuel L Jackson as a Klingon
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Seven of Nine - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 22:13:15 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.63071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63059
I pity this silly mindset you have here. So triggered by a word. People said jolly african-american all the fucking time back when. It's more realistic to portray casual racism than it is to portray a slave being whipped. The fact that you're triggered by it just shows a deep insecurity.

"Whose spaceship is this?"
"It's a bird of prey, baby"
"Whose bird of prey is it?"
"Zed of the House of Martok"
"Who's Zed of the House of Martok?"
Zed's in Stovokor baby... Zed's in Stovokor"
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Seven of Nine - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 22:17:20 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.63072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63068
also, he's not hung up on it, you are nb

all of his movies are portrayed in time periods where racism is prevalent

HOW DARE HE PORTRAY RACISM REALISTICALLY AND CASUALLY
Do they have to put it in black and white and have someone in the background yelling RACISM IS BAD every time someone acts racist for you to understand it?
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Administrator V'Las - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 22:28:04 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.63073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just don't watch his movies because they're spastic as fuck

y'all niggas need to smoke more and chill the fuck out
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Guinan - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 23:09:37 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63072
>all of his movies are portrayed in time periods where racism is prevalent
See this here is exactly the problem.. Trek is set in a time period where racism is practically nonexistent among humans.

To be honest though, the part that worries me is that he has this style which he has cultivated and will likely try to shove it into the Trek universe whether or not it fits.. that's what worries me
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Weyoun 8 - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 00:02:01 EST ID:PzPxJaVB No.63077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63067
>>63071
You guys have clearly been triggered out of your goddamn minds by the mere suggestion that someone could be racist. You then begin relying on rhetorical techniques like we're in a debate class. No, we're not setting out to categorically PROVE whether or not Tarantino might have some unresolved racial baggage. It would be impossible to categorically prove such a thing. We're trying to talk about Trek, and whether or not he has the sensibility to manage it. Looking at the history of all the content he has ever produced is directly relevant to that.

If you really sincerely hold this kind of knee-jerk reaction to the mere suggestion, consider a hypothetical, totally impossible scenario: lets say there's this TV show where people get raped all the time. Just a rape-a-minute, for, I dunno, 8 seasons. Now, none of the people involved in the production have ever had any suggestion of any evidence that they have ever really raped someone. Yet, the thematic content of the show is such that rape is discussed and explored to an obsessive degree, out of proportion to the degree to which rape happens in the real world or even proportionally within the fictional setting. Might not you then conclude that, perhaps, the people responsible for the show might have some kind obsession with the topic of rape, that they have some kind of unresolved psychological baggage associated with rape, that they might even been construed as engaging in a kind of psychological rape by persistently revisiting the same topic in an overly-exagerrated, unrealistic, massively public way? In fact, what other conclusion could you possibly draw?

It's like saying that the person who puts up the money to make Interracial Blacc Diccs 5: the Diccening couldn't possibly have any kind of personal interest in interracial porn -- they're merely depicting the world in a totally even-handed way. No, you would be fucking retarded if you thought that.

Quent has unresolved racial tensions in his psychological makeup, and he works through them in front of hundreds of millions of people in his films. That doesn't make him evil, or mean he should be strung up, it just means he's a little bit racist. Like everyone.
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Lon Suder - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 01:31:35 EST ID:kHU4FWkf No.63080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy shit you spergs Tarantino is great writer and director wtf are you guys talking about with racism, that shit wouldn't even be present in a Trek movie. Can you all not just imagine a gloriously shot, interesting and complex story with random bursts of realistic space violence and tension? Shit would be different and probably fucking awesome and you all know it unless you hate Tarantino for some reason but come on racism wouldn't even be present I'd imagine
Un-trigger thyselves
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Neelix - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 02:03:01 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's just hard to keep watching Star Trek all the while knowing that an army of giant Spock is out there waiting to take over.

I need to know how they do it and what becomes of it.
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Commander Suran - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 02:39:47 EST ID:WTcGlnKY No.63082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63080
I really was more concerned with how he can't help being overly violent in his movies than that he would actually put anything about racism in a Trek movie (I'm pretty sure nobody seriously thought he would have Sisko pulling a 'and then I made him suck my big black dick' Samuel L. monologue, it's just a hilarious thought.) It's more about his range as a director in general -- he has never strayed far from the 'it's really tense with intricate pulpy characters and complex camera work and then everyone dies in a huge gun battle the end' mold -- which, as fun as it is, I'm sorry, isn't the logline of ST.

I would *love* to see a violent, tense, character driven sci-fi film by Tarantino, I would be fan #1. I just don't think it should be Star Trek, because that's not Trek, and we're already woefully off course of what Trek really is in real Trek, to the point of this thread, where the realest Trek show on TV isn't even a Trek show, namsayain?

Anyway I don't give a shit Quentin, I know it's you, go ahead and make the movie and prove me wrong, idgaf.

>>63081
The army of giant Spocks would just discover the ways of logic and peace like Spock 2 did, because Spock is such a G he doesn't even need to be himself or tiny to LLAP
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Toral - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 03:13:11 EST ID:nsypb/lK No.63083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63068
> I don't think about that shit except when I'm basically forced to

If you're the sort of person that tunes out whenever racial inequality is shown in film or elsewhere then you're the one with the weird race problem here, not any director.

>>63077

Yeah I'm the one who's "triggered" and yet here sits a 350+ word reply to a 150 word post.

> No, we're not setting out to categorically PROVE whether or not Tarantino might have some unresolved racial baggage. It would be impossible to categorically prove such a thing.

I didn't ask anyone to prove anything, but nice straw man. I'm simply pointing out that the "his movies sometimes confront racist themes, therefore he must be racist" is garbage-tier logic, and makes so little sense it's practically a non-sequitur.

> We're trying to talk about Trek, and whether or not he has the sensibility to manage it.

That might be what you're talking about, but the asshat I replied to was clearly a bunch of mouth diarrhea implying Tarantino is a racist for representing racism (which is a reality, last I checked) in his films.

> If you really sincerely hold this kind of knee-jerk reaction to the mere suggestion, consider a hypothetical, totally impossible scenario

I'd consider it if your scenario wasn't reductive, exaggerated batshit of literally no equivalence to what we're talking about. Nice try. Though to be fair, I'm not talking about Tarantino's qualification to handle Star Trek (though I do believe people take a pretty exaggerated, almost religious level of protectiveness to a franchise that's been creatively dead and raped for profit for literally decades now; you're think they'd welcome anything creative or novel at this point, rather than embrace even more shallow, corporate big budget nonsense, but whatever).

> It's like saying that the person who puts up the money to make Interracial Blacc Diccs 5: the Diccening couldn't possibly have any kind of personal interest in interracial porn

Your analogies are honestly really stupid. Like, I can't tell if you're dumb enough to believe they're representative of this issue, or if you're just hoping everyone that reads it is.

> Quent has unresolved racial tensions in his psychological makeup

I've still not seen any argument that supports this. Simply finding it to be a creative wellspring of character conflict doesn't imply to me he has some kind of "unresolved racial tension".

> That doesn't make him evil, or mean he should be strung up, it just means he's a little bit racist.

Great, so you're just as irrational as the other guy: please explain to me how exactly representing racism (which is something that existed in the time period his works are often set in, and for that matter exists to this very day) makes someone a racist? If he was black, would he still be racist for having racial themes in his movies?

Like, if someone made a bunch of heist movies, does that mean they're a bank/casino robber? Or that they're pro-robbing banks/casinos? Or what about murder? If someone makes films where people die a lot, does that mean they're a murderer? Or want people in real life to die? I'm just completely unable to follow this non-sequitur retard logic of "someone makes a movie showing X, therefore they are X".
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Commander Suran - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 04:36:11 EST ID:WTcGlnKY No.63085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63083
Like, I can't tell if you're so dumb that you're consistently misinterpreting what everyone else in the thread is saying so you can keep going on these hate screeds, or you're just a garbage tier troll. You're picking apart everyone else's posts with /pol/ tier nitpicking, and keep consistently bringing things back to an argumentative place. You admit that you are replying to what someone else said, and yet you're ranting that other people aren't talking about what *you're* talking about, when the two people who you claim you're arguing with have conclusively reiterated the same points multiple times.

I'll break it down for you one more time as plainly as possible, if you can't follow it this time I'm going to assume you're arguing in bad faith and stop replying to you:
>> "his movies sometimes confront racist themes, therefore he must be racist"
is not the claim that is being made. The claim is the way he confronts racist themes is exaggerated, excessive, and gratuitous, which is an indication of racial baggage. Additionally, the claim is being made that everyone who is a part of our modern culture has racial baggage and thus is racist to some extent. This is not contingent on what themes his movies confront, it's contingent on him being a human being in the 21st century. The conclusion being drawn from these premises is that QT's way of confronting his inherent, unavoidable racist baggage is inelegant, over-the-top, and not a good fit for ST.
I could give evidence for these points but as you suggest there is no point in proving any of this, and frankly this whole discussion is useless. I don't think QT should direct Trek, you do, what are you gonna do, come and sit on me until I stop saying it? stfu and chill out, if you would like something say what you would like, don't tell other people to like things they don't or wouldn't.
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Seven of Nine - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 11:19:26 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.63087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63074
His movies aren't about racism, they just have racism as a backdrop because that's the way it was at the time period. There's no reason to think that he'd shoe racism into Star Trek. That's silly.
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Ghee P'Trell - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:32:00 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.63091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63087
this anon is a wise anon, and his replay was all that was needed to be said.
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Ambassador Thoris - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:45:34 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.63092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll just put this trek-ish news here.
Black Mirror drops Dec. 29
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Harry Kim - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 19:13:09 EST ID:nsypb/lK No.63098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63085
>is not the claim that is being made

Except it, you know, is.

>The claim is the way he confronts racist themes is exaggerated, excessive, and gratuitous, which is an indication of racial baggage.

Sorry but not only has that not been the argument made until now, it's still just a spin on the reductive "he talks about racism therefore he's a racist".

It's still a pretty weak argument for someone being a racist. I'm still not really following this "he represents something in a stylized and gratuitous way therefore he's a racist" reasoning. And again, I'll reassert my question from before: if a black director uses racism in a stylized and gratuitous way to add character conflict in their films, does that mean they're a racist too?

>Additionally, the claim is being made that everyone who is a part of our modern culture has racial baggage and thus is racist to some extent.

I'm sorry, where is that claim being made? Is this your grand strategy, to make reinterpretations on what arguments these people should have made, and then unduly imply these arguments have always been the topic of discussion from the beginning?

But I'll confront that point too: that is the dumbest thing anyone's said in this entire thread, congratulations. So let's think about this: if everyone is racist, then what's the point of calling someone a racist? By extension, if it's Tarantino's "racist baggage" (whatever that nebulous allegation even means) that should keep him from handling Star Trek, then why should literally anyone else be allowed to handle Star Trek either, if "everyone is racial baggage and is thus racist". It's an absolutely mind-numbingly stupid argument.

>stfu and chill out, if you would like something say what you would like, don't tell other people to like things they don't or wouldn't.

When did I ever say someone has to like Tarantino? You're just as bad as the other guy, it's like you're both incapable of making a reasoned argument without relying on some strawman bullshit to prop it up.

To clarify: you're completely free to not like Tarantino's movies or think his directing style, recurring themes, etc. doesn't fit with Star Trek; you're not free to try and back up that opinion by making some asinine and downright illogical allegation that he's some racist snob because he confronts racial themes in his movies, at least not without opening yourself up to further opinions and criticism for making such a bizarre argument.
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Grimp - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 19:24:19 EST ID:sjQCKXEc No.63099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
seriously all I said was that tarentino seems to make a lot of movies wherein people say the n word.
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Dr. Denara Pel - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:00:21 EST ID:WTcGlnKY No.63101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63098
>> reinterpretations on what arguments these people should have made
Ya dink, did you ever stop to think for one second that maybe one person was posting under multiple IDs? As far as I can tell, it is just me and Guinan you have been railing at.

This pic is you for this entire thread. Someone makes a simple silly comment, you don't like what that comment implies so you misinterpret it as making some grand argument, people explain to you that what they're saying isn't what you're misinterpreting them as saying, then you get more and more buttmad that what they're saying isn't consistent with your misinterpretation. It's painfully dumb to observe.

>> if everyone is racist, then what's the point of calling someone a racist?
The point was not that he was racist at all, it was that he is unsubtle in handling a whole range of topics, violence and race among them, and that this was evidence of his range as a director in general. You then decided to interpret this backwards, as being all about pinning a no-no word on him and denying he should direct ST because of that, and then acted like you noticed something clever when you said 'hey, look, you guys are thinking something backwards!' it's like watching babby solve it's first word problem, it's pathetic.

>>you're not free to try and back up that opinion by making some asinine and downright illogical allegation that he's some racist snob because he confronts racial themes
>> because he confronts racial themes
>> because
No, not because. NOT BECAUSE! Do you get that? If you want to hamfist what is being said into your 'strawman' typology, it's that 'because of how he handles race and violence, in some ways he's not a very good director, or at least not one with a broad directorial range.' And, where do you get off man? I'm perfectly free to hold the opinion that QT is racist, if that's what making you so mad, I'll say it more, QT is a person who uses his license and position to get away with making racial comments that other lesser people wouldn't be able to, and it has a detrimental effect on the aesthetic value of his craft. It's inelegant and a demonstration of his narrow range as a director, which is the only reason it was brought up in the first place. I defended him after Django on this point, but after he turned Jackson into the most hateful ultra-racist 'anti-racist' stereotype imaginable in Hateful Eight, I couldn't anymore. That's my aesthetic assessment, you can't do anything about it. I'm not the first person to think this, I could link you reams of articles, but what would be the point? It's an aesthetic judgement, de gustibus non est disputandum mother fucker.

To review: you're shitting up a perfectly good thread by spergtastically bringing us all back to an argument no one is trying to have with you, shadow boxing with your own misinterpretations while patting yourself on the back 'lol got em-'. It's sad, annoying, and you should stop.
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Dr. Denara Pel - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:06:50 EST ID:WTcGlnKY No.63102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63101
Oh and Grimp too, don't wanna leave you out buddy.

To get back on topic, is Orville over for the season or is it still going? I didn't catch the last couple ones, has it still been getting more and more S+ tier?
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Hugh - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:26:47 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63102
I believe the last episode of S1 is this week
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Dr. Denara Pel - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 23:09:56 EST ID:WTcGlnKY No.63107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63104
Ty. So this will be the one that wasn't really the finale, since the finale got held back to next season, right? I wonder if they'll open on a cliffhanger or have to just scrap that plot and do something else? Or if they'll try to shoehorn a cliffhanger into this one retroactively, or will it just kinda end?
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Hugh - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 00:37:22 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63107
perhaps the original plan was to end S1 with a two parter but the 2nd part got bumped to the beginning of season 2 to make it a season long cliffhanger much like many TNG seasons
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Harry Kim - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 03:40:08 EST ID:nsypb/lK No.63109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63101
>Ya dink, did you ever stop to think for one second that maybe one person was posting under multiple IDs?

Well that's a relief to know there aren't 3 whole people stupid enough to make your argument.

>Someone makes a simple silly comment, you don't like what that comment implies so you misinterpret it as making some grand argument

I've misinterpreted nothing, you're just getting butthurt that I've been shutting down every stupid position you've taken so far.

>The point was not that he was racist at all, it was that he is unsubtle in handling a whole range of topics

Honestly if you're just going to move your goalposts around in every single post then I don't know why I bother.

>Tarantino is a racist
>Tarantino has racial baggage
>Tarantino is unsubtle

It's like every time I explain how dumb your conclusions are, you shuffle around your argument and try to lessen or moderate it in the hopes that I'll be none the wiser.

>No, not because.

Sorry, you don't get to say stupid shit and then backpeddle and act like you didn't say it.

>I'm perfectly free to hold the opinion that QT is racist

You are, but unless you can put forth some kind of reasoning or rationale for why, I'm free to call you an inarticulate mouthbreather for asserting it.

>To review: you're shitting up a perfectly good thread

Oh yeah and you're just doing the lord's work by... also shitting up a perfectly good thread. You don't really get to take the moral high ground there, buddy; our word count is pretty even, takes two to tango, etc.

Anyway, you'll doubtlessly be happy to hear I don't really have any interest in continuing this discussion anyway, considering how utterly incapable you seem to be of defending your shit argument, not to mention how inelegantly you try to move goalposts once your garbage logic gets called out for being such.
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Michael Jonas - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 04:16:50 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.63110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63109
Goddamnit stop feeding the trolls for fucks sake, THIS IS ORVILLE THREAD
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Kalita - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:48:53 EST ID:af1Ae1es No.63111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63110
Why do they do this, why can't we have nice things...
I just want to talk about how much I like Star Trek: Orville
And also mabe how disappointed I was with Discovery
But mainly Star Trek: Orville!
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Guinan - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 11:19:27 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63109
This is why you never got promoted past ensign
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Vice Admiral Nakamura - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 03:57:16 EST ID:bJrisuWk No.63116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59221
yo what the fuck is up with the season finale. fox took it off the website
I'm raging right now
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Vice Admiral Nakamura - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:03:48 EST ID:bJrisuWk No.63117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63116
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Cmdr. Kelby - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:18:04 EST ID:Yh6G81l6 No.63118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63117
Stream it bruh
I wanna list sites but I can't cause the Admirals will be all up on my ass but let's just say that when people try to binge watchxcseries, to either watch things they can't find on YouTube or Netflix or Amazon or whatever, they will find it and maybe google
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 17:57:37 EST ID:7hZAtms2 No.63121 Report Quick Reply
>>63118
You can freely discuss Orion Syndicate sources if you want, bro.
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Beverly Crusher - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 18:09:34 EST ID:fC4kdQeS No.63122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63116
>>63117

Reposting for people who missed it the first time. It gives you two choices for direct downloads. It's not for torrents.

http://snahp.it/tag/the-orville/

And holy shit this episode was another home run. "That's an order." "WHAT?!"
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Noonian Soong - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 23:54:31 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jesus Kelly, you just had to go and shit on the Prime Directive.

Cunt.
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DaiMon Bok - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 08:00:07 EST ID:y0XXMzWs No.63129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Great episode. Like many of the others, it really had that classic Trek feel to it. Reminiscent of the TNG episode "Who Watches the Watchers".
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Ardon Broht - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 16:18:13 EST ID:e5feiTTX No.63131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63129

>Like many of the others, it really had that classic Trek feel to it

It's really easy to capture that feeling when you beat-for-beat copy trek plots.
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Thalen - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 05:04:26 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel like that was a kinda anti-climactic finale, but still a very good episode.
I was expecting something big to happen with the Krill or something,, but I'm cool with what we got.
To be quite frank, I have been blown away and totally surprised at the quality of this first season. I'm already missing the show and can't wait for season 2.
>Viva Le Orville
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Kira Nerys - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:27:32 EST ID:QY4RgQYW No.63162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63160
It would have been really cool if it ended with the crew waiting for Isaac and then have an episode all about his 700 years on the planet
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DaiMon Solok - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:48:26 EST ID:xv6MpgnU No.63163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63160
One of the things I'm very pleased with is that they aren't saving the universe every other week. Their adventures and missteps tend to be local. Intimate. It's a big part of the coziness of the show.
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Nevala - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 20:29:20 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63165 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63160
Well it wasn't supposed to be the finale.
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Michael Sullivan - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:51:45 EST ID:bJrisuWk No.63168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63160
I like that it wasn't something big, I am loving the random episode format, reminds me of tos, but its more tng as it has a story arc but each episode is its own and I like that.
fuck I suck at sentence structure
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Cmdr. Kelby - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:15:02 EST ID:xv6MpgnU No.63181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 15:45:46 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63181
Awesome, they're getting back to it quick. I wonder how long it will be before season 2. I know that Fox works really fast on some of their shows. For example, X Files just finished post production on like 5/6 of their episodes and they're gonna be premiering Jan 1.
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Guinan - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:34:11 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63182
low-key the new X-files is soooo bad, but I'll probably still watch it out of a masochistic nostalgic yearning for the real thing
symbolic nb
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Grilka - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:15:30 EST ID:Yg7hBR3A No.63185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63183
I liked the season finale last time when they kept cutting to that announcer going on about HOLY SHIT THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF IN THE STREETS HAPPENING THAT WE JUST CAN'T POSSIBLY AFFORD TO SHOW IT
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Guinan - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:21:21 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63185
It's cause they blew their entire budget on that brand new SUV Scully was driving all over the sidewalk for no fucking reason lol
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 18:25:16 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63183
Yeah the only one I liked was the monster episode. The rest were just "oh hey, remember samantha? Oh yeah, also, remember that baby we had? Remember CSM and aliens?" And then of course the Alex Jones fuckery THAT COMES TRUE!
Silly. Supposedly Gillian doesn't want to do it anymore after this season, I wouldn't blame her.
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Hoshi Sato - Sat, 16 Dec 2017 19:28:23 EST ID:55kl3yqm No.63202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy fuck is this show bad. I've watched 11 episodes so far but they just keep disappointing me. It's like someone re-made TNG, lobotomized the writing staff, and gave the entire cast and crew doses of Ambien every day. Oh and they throw in "jokes" every 5 minutes, which have not once caused me to laugh.
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Gantt - Sat, 16 Dec 2017 21:01:42 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63202
I wouldn't expect anything less from Hoshi. You might speak the language but you don't understand it.
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Guinan - Sat, 16 Dec 2017 22:52:21 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63202
>Hoshi was so worthless that in the opposite universe, she was Empress of the fucking Terran Empire
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Corporal R Ryan - Sun, 17 Dec 2017 15:07:55 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63204
>Also insanely fuckable as said Empress....
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Lauren - Sun, 17 Dec 2017 16:19:02 EST ID:IW0W+1Bb No.63206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63204
The mirror universe was not an opposite world but just a reflection. So what it shows is how with just a few changes she could have ruled the galaxy instead of being a mess of doubt. She had that potential the way Smiley was a tech genius but only realised later in life, which is just like prime O Brien.

Archer remains a bit of a tool in both universes though.
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Prosecutor Orak - Sun, 17 Dec 2017 19:07:19 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63206
Archer is a 'tard....
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Guinan - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 01:09:18 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://youtu.be/9Mpv9WdZOOY
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 18:05:47 EST ID:7hZAtms2 No.63209 Report Quick Reply
>>63206
Archer is the shit, bro. Wtf
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Cyrano Jones - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 18:15:12 EST ID:IW0W+1Bb No.63210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63209
He was a bit of a tool. That's not a damning indictment on the scale Guinan said, he's just a bit of a chump sometimes. Like that one where his dog pissed on a tree. Or where he wanted to fuck Titpole. All that stuff.
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Nanpart Malor - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 00:16:57 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63210
He's a great one to have in your toolbelt if you feel like taking a job on such as FOUNDING THE MOTHERFUCKIN FEDERATION
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Willie Hawkins - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 08:04:48 EST ID:knEAr630 No.63212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63211
Yeah, thats why said Federation memory hold'd him harder then one of Stalin's ex lovers.
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Colonel Lovok - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:47:54 EST ID:IW0W+1Bb No.63214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63211
I think Archer was just the best choice at the time honestly. I find the first 2 to 3 seasons of ENT more palatable if I consider that humanity is completely new to this and out it's depth. Even the best of the best is a bit clueless initially.

Kirk would have seduced the federation BTFO Titpole and befriended the Xindi twice as fast. Or something like that. I guess Janeway would have airlocked the federation for some coffee and then watched Tucker and the Major fuck while rubbing herself furiously. Could be worse I guess.
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Gralik Durr - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:54:54 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63214
>Archer is a fucking war criminal and Florida was an inside job
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Montgomery Scott - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:51:33 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63215
Says the guy who was supplying the Xindi with kemocite.
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Geordi La Forge - Wed, 20 Dec 2017 01:20:48 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63214
Yeah he really was what was needed. They needed a ballsy guy who could get out there and start making mistakes that they could learn from. And when it comes down to it, they needed a guy who could get things done at great expense. An "ends justifies the means" kinda guy was needed in a similar way that we needed Sisko during the Dominion War.
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Eliminator Leck - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:43:07 EST ID:IW0W+1Bb No.63220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63217
I feel like it was more humanity was dumb because it had no experience. So it had to go get experience. Archer was probably one of the worst enterprise captains but that's not really his fault. He had to go level up the whole human race.

Ergo he absolutely was quite regularly a tool. But you shouldn't hold that against him. At least he had FAITH ADDA HAAAAAAAAAAA
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Amanda Grayson - Fri, 22 Dec 2017 01:07:37 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63220
Nothing could bend or break him
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Guinan - Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:27:43 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If ENT had gone as planned and Archer not been denied his ideal character arc, we would have surely seen him evolve from a doofus / kind of a tool to a total badass, it was definitely the intention to show him, and by extent humanity, evolving as it stopped wading in the ocean of space, and started swimming
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Simon Tarses - Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:18:13 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63233
Yeah it's truly a tragedy that it got cut off right when we became capable of swimming....
And they didn't even show the god damn speech. That's what pissed me off the most about that finale, I wanted to hear the fucking speech...
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Jimmy - Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:59:37 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.63240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63239
that's when Sam leaps out
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Neelix - Sat, 23 Dec 2017 05:07:55 EST ID:8J596UqC No.63241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Somebody posted this to The Orville's subraddat yesterday and it is adorable. Captain Ed was in a fan film when he was a wee lad. The music is from Generations, so it was after 1994.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn_Sgcxg5PQ
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Simon Tarses - Sat, 23 Dec 2017 05:25:33 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63241
d'awwww
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Roy Ritterhouse - Sat, 23 Dec 2017 11:56:40 EST ID:OeU2nasZ No.63243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Aw. Li'l Seth MacFarlane's camera guy was already equally good at framing shots as the Duplass brothers.

L2WIDESHOTZBOYZ

Wait, you set an anthology series all in the same room? Touché.
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Kono - Sun, 24 Dec 2017 04:29:11 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63243
Its kind of just a shitty rip-off of Inside No. 9.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:35:41 EST ID:DZdnp23O No.63257 Report Quick Reply
I thought the last two episodes were decent although it's funny seeing /mtv/ shit on John when compared to >>63013. I think Bortus is my favorite character though.

>>63108
Nope, they held the 12th produced episode back until next season.

>>63243
Man I really liked Room 104 so I'm glad they got another season though it sucks Togetherness got canceled. Although I didn't really like Mark and Jay's characters on The League and Transparent.
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Major J Hayes - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:01:01 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63257
If you like Room 104 I definitely recommend Inside No. 9. That Christmas episode (S03E01) was pretty insane.
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Dr. Antaak - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 05:27:59 EST ID:Uyhdlwe1 No.63353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Orville is comfy as fuck. I can't wait for it to return.
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Guinan - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:46:01 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63353
Bad news I'm afraid.. I read an article indicating they might not have the new season ready by fall.. we might not get more until 2019.

Feels shitty..
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Amanda Grayson - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 18:37:52 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63356
Oh, come on...
TNG didn't have this kind of shit happen. It was "You make 20-22 episodes, and deliver them." Now we have weird fucking seasons that last 13 episodes and get truncated and take 3 years to make. I mean, this isn't Tits and Dragons. They aren't exactly the highest budgeted and most carefully crafted series. Seth is just doing HIS version of TNG. He needs to stop being a pussy and pump out those episodes. Jesus fuck, LeVar Burton managed to run Reading Rainbow, do ST:TNG, DIRECT some shit too, all at the same time.

Jesus fuck, sack up man.
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Brok'tan - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:52:02 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63360
True but it was a full time gig back then, and hell
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Michael Eddington - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:37:11 EST ID:HwWryrk9 No.63366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63360
at least they got the first season out when they said they would unlike some other shows
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Talok - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:49:04 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63366
Fair point.
Just seems like standards are all slipping and shit.
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Dr. Crell Moset - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 02:19:58 EST ID:z5jRNLXS No.63402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63360
totally agree.
it's nice to read someone else complaining about it too.
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Vosk - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:33:50 EST ID:R20CWgk8 No.63403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63368

Maybe they're fleshing out their scripts with original ideas instead of endlessly remixing TNG ideas into them.

As good as it was to see the first season so many things are just lifted out of Trek and repurposed. The Orville is at its best when it's not doing that.

The other thing the Orville does best with those trek ideas is subversion and gutbusting originality like with Gordon's leg.
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Vosk - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:35:19 EST ID:R20CWgk8 No.63404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63403
Why the fuck does circlejerk train everyone to type like an asshole?
What the fuck is the purpose of nuking single line breaks and demanding doubles? What arbitrary garbage.
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Alexander Rozhenko - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:15:14 EST ID:zs0q/fzD No.63406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63404

I've been double-breaking since ansi. It has nothing to do with rebbit. Your problem is that you're just breaking too much. Don't beat yourself up too much though, buddy. No one noticed.
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Noah Lessing - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:28:54 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63403
That's my guess.

First season they went with mostly ideas that had already been used in Trek because they knew they would work.

I'm hoping that in season 2 they're gonna gamble a bit more and give it more of it's own idea with original ideas.
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Noah Lessing - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:37:26 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63407
*more of it's own identity nb
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Weyoun 7 - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 16:12:12 EST ID:NIvRyakF No.63432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm a babby trekkie. I've never watched Star Trek but my mother told me she liked it a lot when she was younger.
I watched some of the Trek episodes and also the Orville and I really enjoy both. The Orville occasionally doesn't make much sense. Sometimes, the Orville feels like a well-made show and then these stupid jokes come up but ahh whatever.
I do recognize some of the episodes from pop-culture references from the actual Star Trek but ahh whatever.
The ex-wife chick looks like an alien but she's human and she still looks like some sort of elf creature from Skyrim and it's annoying that she's human but she's human but she doesn't look like a real human.
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Leck - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 19:05:54 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63432
This is an 18+ website.
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B'Etor - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:40:48 EST ID:NIvRyakF No.63434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63433
Babby as in not familiar with the franchise.
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Chulak - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 03:09:35 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>63432
The elf look she's got going is hot. I'd take Solitude solo if that would mean she'd be my Housecarl.
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Albert Macklin - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:29:31 EST ID:A5E/MwaL No.63441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63434
Okay so if all you've seen is DIS and Orville then HALT HAMMERZEIT

I mean watch TNG. First couple of seasons are hit and miss but bear with it, during season 2 you'll see some episodes which show you what it's capable of.

Once you've done that you've got two directions to go in. DS9 is darker and edgier but is about ideals being tested not broken and ignored. It examines the trek premise and throws in continuity and character development. The other way is to the original series. It's janky due to the art of TV still being in it's early stages and other artifacts of its time but a lot of the episodes reward your patience immensely. There are some episodes which just fucking pound you in every feeling (balance of terror for example) and some which just make you "wut" in the most satisfying way. I'd probably say do TOS second and DS9 3rd. DS9 will feel slick and modern compared to TNG but compared to TOS it will make it more of a treat. It's another slightly slow to start series but it starts about where TNG was in season 2 rather than having a season 1.

After that VOY and ENT are a bit of a let down. VOY has it's moments. ENT starts weak and was just hitting its stride when it was shitcanned. There's a complicated story in the studio but season 4 at least is great. It's this which is really the only reason we have to hope that DIS will come good. Even ENT was good shit by season 4.

Or you can just sit in the trektube and watch everything for a few weeks until you've seen it all.
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Senator Kimara Cretak - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:34:03 EST ID:Hu7sry/I No.63442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63441
Let this anon be your sherpa. Their words are wise, their reasoning is sound.
Don't be afraid of the task ahead of you, it's a lot of media to consume.
Just "space" heh it out and you'll lessen the chance of feeling fatigued.

TEK HIM HAND. HE KNOW DE WEY
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Gor - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 02:15:13 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/news/a845537/seth-macfarlane-the-orville-filled-the-void-star-trek/

>Comparisons have been drawn between Seth MacFarlane's The Orville and Star Trek: Discovery, but MacFarlane believes that his show fills the "void" left behind by classic Star Trek. I kind of miss the forward-thinking, aspirational, optimistic place in science fiction that Star Trek used to occupy," "I think there's some space for the aspirational blueprint of what we could do if we get our shit together, and that's something that's been missing for me for a while."And again, it's something that meant a lot to me when I was a kid, that Star Trek did, and this is sort of an attempt to kind of fill that void in the genre."

>"I think [discovery has] chosen to go in a different direction which has worked very well for them in recent years, but what has happened is that it's left open a space that has been relatively unoccupied for a while in the genre. "So for me, it's a space that's kind of waiting to be filled in this day and age when we're getting a lot of dystopian science fiction, a lot of which is great and very entertaining, but it can't all be The Hunger Games." MacFarlane added: "It can't all be the nightmare scenario.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/feature/a847230/the-orville-season-2-release-date-cast-trailer-episodes/

>"To correct a bit of misreporting: No, there won't be an Orville/Family Guy crossover, and yes, The Orville season 2 will arrive later this year,"

>Due to scheduling issues, the first season of the show was cut short by one episode to 12, but that 'lost' episode is now expected to air with the second season, with MacFarlane also saying that he expects to do "at least" 14 episodes. "I'd rather do fewer episodes and have them be better content-wise than do 22 and have them be filler," he explained at the Television Critics Association winter press tour.

>As for what we can expect from season two's missions for the USS Orville crew, MacFarlane wants to include more science-fiction elements, citing the season one episode 'Into the Fold' – which saw Dr Claire Finn and Isaac trapped on a planet alone – as an example that the show's universe can succeed with more sci-fi.

>"What we found was that we can lean a little more heavier into the science fiction and not have to worry so much about knocking out a joke every page. The show is an hour and really can, and wants to, service its storytelling in a way that makes it a priority. The jokes come as they come, the comedy comes as it comes."

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/news/a845600/the-orville-galaxy-quest-seth-macfarlane/

>"Shockingly, no," Seth told Digital Spy when we asked him if The Orville took a lead from Galaxy Quest, which starred Tim Allen and Sigourney Weaver.

>"I saw it once years ago, but shockingly, it wasn't. And it was because that... I mean, that was a full-on comedy." He continued: "The intent of that movie, to me, was to be a full-on comedy. "As a result, the stakes, in terms of science fiction and the parables of science fiction, weren't really something that needed to be taken all that seriously because it was pure comedy. "So it really wasn't something that [inspired me]. It's funny. Shockingly, I don't know the movie that well. I saw it once years ago, but it's been years. But it wasn't really an influence."
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Lonzo - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:26:35 EST ID:NIvRyakF No.63447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63441
I really enjoy DS9 the most. Voyager is alright but I think it's a bit strange in my opinion.
Eventually I'll get to the rest of them eventually.
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Ishka Moogie - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 06:15:45 EST ID:zdJLz8PT No.63474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>62076

Bullshit, while the Dominion war was a continuous theme that unified the series, it used that premise to explore themes that the other shows were afraid to touch on too often or at all in a star trek way. The two parter where Sisko comes back to Earth to help deal with possible dominion infiltration was a good exploration of the balance between privacy and security. The stuff with section 31 was a similar moral conflict, security vs morality. There were individual episodes that did classicy star trek stuff too. The Visitor, obviously, was an inner light style episodes. The episode where Sisko and O'Brien get stranded on that planet with the techno-phobic cult leader and explores the idea of loyalty to the uniform vs acceptance of what could have become the new normal. There was plenty of Cheesy trek stuff too, like with the episode where the runabout flies through the that one anomaly and becomes shrunk and they explore the impact that has on their ability to interact with their environment. That's just off the top of my head, if we went through memory alpha I know we could find an even greater variety of both cheese and not cheese good Trek-theme episodes, both directly related to the war and not.

DS9 was Trek, it's just that a lot of people have a very limited definition of what Trek Can be. It's a couple of things, but mostly it's people using their wits and technical know how to overcome the odds against a seemingly superior foe and attempt to maintain their idealism along the way, that's Star Trek. And you can do that just as effectively against the concept of war as against a literal god-alien who captures the ship for a single episode.
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Silik - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:46:30 EST ID:Rjwhi0U8 No.63590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>63441
Everyone should watch voyager first so that there's a steady progression up the trek ladder. VOY -> TNG is a more satisfying experience than TNG -> VOY. Voyager is a little more touchy-feely with some philosophy and idealism thrown in while TNG is more unadulterated, it's kind of like what I imagine TNG would be if it were a little child instead of an adult, and it makes sense to progress from childhood to adulthood than to hop on over to voyager after TNG and feel somewhat jarred. ENT should always come last tho because that way it's kind of like a little encore you get after finishing the others.
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Captain Kurn - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 04:26:20 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>This is a work-safe board. Posting adult images is forbidden.
Someone made some Seth deepfakes that I can't post here. They're perfect.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 20:04:33 EST ID:5jph/fJo No.63752 Report Quick Reply
>>63446
>Due to scheduling issues, the first season of the show was cut short by one episode to 12, but that 'lost' episode is now expected to air with the second season, with MacFarlane also saying that he expects to do "at least" 14 episodes. "I'd rather do fewer episodes and have them be better content-wise than do 22 and have them be filler," he explained at the Television Critics Association winter press tour.

Well I’m glad that it’ll be back later this year, Network shows should not be obligated to do 22 episode seasons so I’m glad they’re keeping it to around 13. Hannibal did as well and helped to keep the quality high with fewer episodes although that’s more of a testament to Bryan Fuller’s showrunning.
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Lt. Cmdr. Jack Crusher - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 20:08:43 EST ID:u87FzXb6 No.63753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>60980
Oh hey this guy solved the puzzle.
The two shows airing simultaneously wasn't a coincidence, nor were the odd parallels between certain Orville episodes and other sci-fi shows airing at the same time.
It was strange that STD had a split season, but now that it's returned and some plot bombs have dropped and it's suddenly retroactively a good show, it's apparent that they were playing the audience all along.

~everything is connected~
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Lt. Reginald Barclay - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 09:39:23 EST ID:5uU+DoWU No.64037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just binged Season 1 and I must say: This show actually leaves behind a decent aftertaste, I'm kind of sad it's over and I am looking forward to re-watching a few episodes during the year.
That in comparison to STD which left me more like a 'I've made, it, because I felt like I had to, yay one half hour more time for other stuff every week"

I agree that this definitely feels like Seth's version of TNG, and that fine, although I hope that for season 2 they add more unique elements to the setting/universe.
The only criticism I have for S1 is the amount of Lampshading in comparison to other kinds of dorkiness (which I appreciate). Get creative Seth!
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Tuvok - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:02:46 EST ID:Viic1J5I No.64273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Nyota Uhura - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:17:46 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64273
I can't believe "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad" (the fucking timeloop episode) is a Hugo finalist and Orville got completely left out.

Looking over the rest of the finalists a Hugo isn't what is used to be though.
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Miles O'Brien - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:51:20 EST ID:jIY7f9Al No.64276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64275
Orville isn't gonna win any drama awards until it gets around to doing more original shit.
Also neither of them are going to beat USS Callister, get real.

Twice Upon a Time is hokey junk just like every other Christmas Doctor Who. David Bradley is great but An Adventure in Space and Time is much more worthwhile. Delete Mark Gatiss and his character from the episode and my memory plz. The whole christmas armistice thing would have paid off a lot better if it were just someone else. Maybe I'm just an elitist for knowing very very little German and still knowing what the guy was saying. HOKEY The positive thing I can say is that at least Twice Upon a Time looks extremely good visually.
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Grimp - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 16:59:06 EST ID:QW+GxvNa No.64279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64275
I was under the impression that the nerd awards turned into clique-y shit a while back, and that was why online jerks pushed that gay butt writer in to mock how stupid the process was
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Gaila - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 17:37:38 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64279
Not exactly.
A bunch of alt-right fucktards got mad that the Hugo awards were doing things like letting minorities and women win awards. Because, as we all know, you need a manly, straight penis to write sci-fi.

In a fit of pique, they organized a FourChan style raid on the Hugos to "defeat the evils of liberal media."
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Kozak - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 17:47:30 EST ID:knEAr630 No.64281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64280
And got the shut the hell down, hard.

>>64279

They TRIED to reach out to him, but he ended up just non-stop mocking the idiots. They got it twice. It was glorious.
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Miles O'Brien - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 18:15:00 EST ID:jIY7f9Al No.64282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64281
When are people gonna learn that the future style raids require public opinion to be on your side.

Nobody had an issue with shoe on head talk radio prank raids or naming a ship boatymcboatface (Even if they totally copped out and named the UUV boaty mcboatface)

These things don't work by flying under the radar and manipulating shit anymore. They work through sheer force of numbers, and when you've only got a segment of the the future population (And they've run off several other segments of the the future population through sheer force of annoyance) It loses some of that power and apparently the ability to know the difference between lulz and mass-cuntiness.
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Christopher Pike - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 00:17:45 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64279
I haven't really kept up with Nebula/Saturn/Hugo in about 5-10 years or so but looking over the stuff chosen the last few years I would definitely agree. They definitely aren't what they used to be and are now no better than the other big award shows.

>>64280
There is a big difference in "letting them win awards" and giving out awards based solely for that reason.

Great female sci-fi writers have not been underrepresented in the last 20 years or so. That's should have no effect on eligibility and from what I have seen it really hasn't in a long time. The work should speak for itself and be the only thing considered. Sadly, based on what I've seen the past few years nomination/winner wise, that isn't the case.

There was a time when I could look through Nebula/Hugo/Saturn winners and, as long as it was something within my preferences, I could pretty much count on it being at least pretty damn decent but it seems they have really gone downhill and are not up to the standards they used to be.
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Governor Torak - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 09:08:00 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One thing I will Credit the Hugo Awards with is recognizing The Expanse.

But yeah pretty much like any other modern awards show they are just a big circle jerk and they have their ultra snobby biases so even though STD has like a 50/50 shitty to good audience rating and The Orville has like a 9/10 good rating they're gonna award STD because they preached about diversity before doing what every modern show does which is put a single black person on the cast. Wow they're breaking new ground.

But yeah, they mean nothing basically. People don't really even brag about Hugo awards really anymore.
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William T Riker - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 18:44:57 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.64289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64280
lol you sound mad
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Gul Ranor - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 13:01:16 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64287
>People don't really even brag about Hugo awards really anymore.

Chuck Tingle does.
Then again, there is a high probability that Tingle is really a Netjester level AI that is just churning porn out using phrases scraped from Pornhub....
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Orator Plegg - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 02:19:43 EST ID:oDV8iW5L No.64294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>64293
Have you read any of those stories made by that algorithm that can create stories?
Tingle's shit it about two levels below that, its definitely human made I'm not sure if there is a more depressing thought that a human author making shitty gay fan fics is worse than procedurally generated works of fiction
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Sarah Sisko - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 08:21:53 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.64295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64294
The Gay T-Rex's Procedural Generation of Butts Pounding My Butt
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Kimara Cretak - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:47:58 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64294
Are you implying Chuck Tingle fails the Turing Test?
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Curzon Dax - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:06:30 EST ID:MoFvl08z No.64298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64296
My Gay Functionalist Theory of Mind Is A Handsome Gay Unicorn Lawyer In My Butt and Pounds My Gay Butt In The Chinese Room With His Gay Strong AI Hands
the newest release from two-time Hugo Award finalist His Imperial Majesty Dr. Sir Chuck Tingle, Esq., D.D.S., PhD, two-time Hugo Award Finalist
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Groundskeeper Boothby - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:53:43 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.64306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64281
He also wasn't blocked from receiving his award, like the other writers nominated by the Puppies. Which kind of proves their point. He's a horrible writer, but they gave him the award because he said the right political stuff.
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Biddle Coleridge - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:20:04 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think we can all agree that Chuck Tingle needs to write at least one scene for The Orville. Just one scene.
Shit, he may have...remember that weird Yafit / Clare sex?
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Gul Damar - Mon, 14 May 2018 14:23:50 EST ID:V5NqeO2L No.64549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>OP Starts a thread about The Orville
>Thread finds out its a good show
>Conversation about how good the show is
>Does a 180 and turns into a conversation about Chuck Tingle
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David Marcus - Mon, 14 May 2018 18:58:36 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64549
So, we are just supposed to believe that Chuck Tingle wasn't involved in that freaky sex episode, despite his fingerprints being all over it?

I'MA JUST SAYING!
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Harry Kim - Tue, 22 May 2018 06:05:02 EST ID:fy/Qp6+b No.64664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So long to wait...

"On November 2, 2017, Fox renewed the series for a second season, which will begin with a two-hour premiere on December 30, 2018 during the 2018–19 season."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_orville
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Skrain DuThot - Tue, 22 May 2018 11:07:45 EST ID:V5NqeO2L No.64666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>64664
Current Mood
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Commander Tebok - Tue, 22 May 2018 19:34:30 EST ID:ZR416Pa+ No.64669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay.

I'm going to throw this out there.

I watched, if I remember, 2? episodes of this series.

Personally I've very little patience for Seth Macfarlanes brand of humor. But I will say there were one of two things, "can you take like 2 steps to your right?" thing there were genuinely funny prods at Star Treks general framing vis-a-vis the viewscreen.

Moreover. Should I care? About this show? Like I'd REALLY have to drag myself to care enough to watch this... so should I drag my fat ass and watch it?
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EMH MARK 2 - Tue, 22 May 2018 20:02:24 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64669
If you thought that line was funny, there are a lot more that are really good.

For the first few episodes I wasn't into the jokes at all but eventually they grew on me. They're still a lot of dumb dick and dad jokes but they eventually work and the trek episodes also mostly work really well.
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Kirayoshi O'Brien - Tue, 22 May 2018 20:14:13 EST ID:MxMZIa1B No.64671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64669
>Should I care? ...should I drag my fat ass and watch it?

Probably not. If you were apathetic to season 1 and come in pre-conditioned to dislike MacFarlane then why bother? You see the love it's getting on here and can look up reviews and opinions anywhere, so if that's not enough to make you want to give it a chance then there's no point trying to sway you.
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Legate Hovat - Wed, 23 May 2018 02:12:58 EST ID:4WVh8sFm No.64675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64669
I can't stand most of McFarlanes stuff for more than 5 minutes but I've watched through S1 of the Orville twice.

It's pretty good scifi
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Lwaxana Troi - Fri, 25 May 2018 20:33:26 EST ID:VeE4v3Mn No.64720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64669
It's a mixed bag. It comes so fucking close to feeling like proper trek then a dick joke or two will just me out of it. Overall it's enjoyable but far from perfect. Then again you could say that about most trek. Standout characters for me are Bortis, Not-Data, and Gordon.
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Dejar - Sat, 26 May 2018 17:14:00 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64720
Yeah, the dick jokes kinda do feel out of place.

Love Bortis though. He is like Worf cranked up to 11.
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Admiral Owen Paris - Sat, 26 May 2018 20:44:02 EST ID:ouEp/1iB No.64735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64720
>It comes so fucking close to feeling like proper trek then a dick joke or two will just me out of it.
That sums up my take on it. This will sounds pompous, but I feel like Trek just doesn't need that to be funny (or more generally, entertaining), like Trak doesn't gain anything from that sort of humor. The kind of comedy you might see in, say, Quark's sleaziness, or Data's innocence, or Spock's Vulcan rigidity, provides a much richer sense of comedy that not only provides an immediate chuckle, but also adds to the grand story and to the characters used in telling it.
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Admiral Owen Paris - Sat, 26 May 2018 20:46:22 EST ID:ouEp/1iB No.64736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>64735
>trak
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Natima Lang - Wed, 30 May 2018 02:13:22 EST ID:4WVh8sFm No.64765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64734
I actually feel like the immature jokes make it a little more realistic

just because we figured out space travel doesn't mean we'll get over farts being silly
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Robin Lefler - Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:28:30 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.64777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>64736
STAR TURK
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Neelix - Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:37:00 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>64777
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Data - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 06:47:43 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64778
How have I not heard of this. It's got a 7 rating on imdb, for a shitty trek parody it must be fucking good.
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Kono - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:36:35 EST ID:oX5Fh7++ No.64784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64783
It's been free to stream for 13 years lol. It's legit older than youtube.

But why doesn't Iron Sky get a decent rating?
I was pretty pumped before Iron Sky came out because of Star Wreck. And I still haven't watched it.
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Kono - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:51:13 EST ID:oX5Fh7++ No.64785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64778
Also I just watched the trailer for this but honestly I don't see the point in redoing the VFX work if they're gonna hold so closely to the inaccurate lighting style of Babylon 5 and TNG.

The omnidirectional ambient lighting is just way too damn high.
I know people don't always like the style of newer Trek stuff but the extensive self-lighting is really good in CGI but inevitably the thing they never got finished on the physical models.

The studio models were pretty evenly lit but they always had a great directionality of lighting. The Orville does a really good job of that in both its physical and CGI models.

Babylon 5 on the other hand is just globally overlit. Even the soft contrast isn't really there. You can do a ton of work on detailed models only to fuck up the overall illusion at the end with a lighting model that doesn't sell it to the eye.

I think that's partly why Discovery errs so hard on the side of extreme contrast. You can barely see shit but what you can see fuckin' pops.
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Tom Paris - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 21:26:42 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>64785
>>64783
There are actually several of them in that series. There is also Hick Trek 1 & 2 as well.
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Travis Mayweather - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 23:47:11 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64786
nb but if anyone has any fan made stuff they are willing to trade let me know. I have some but not everything and I'm trying to get a 100% complete collection of movies, series, fan films and series, comics, books, magazine articles, TV specials, and documentary films/one-off eps and prety much anything trek related.

I have a good chunk of it, probably ~80% or more all said and done, but would like to get as close to 100% as possible. Once that is done or close to it I'll post an OpenDirectory/website where you guys can access it all via DDL or streaming.

No trip but I'm the guy that uploaded the ebook and comic collections as well as misc videos you've seen linked here.
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Guinan - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 21:56:24 EST ID:D65nZOLV No.64909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64796
If anyone got that GrinTrek dvd and wants to upload a rip of it.. they can totally get into my cargo cannisters in cargo bay 2

and you know there's some seriously illegal shit
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Janice Rand - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:02:46 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64909
Are you sure that is the correct title? Do you have any more information on it like who made it, director, cast, production company, etc. If you can give me some more info I can probably find it.
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Guinan - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:41:05 EST ID:ebDnCqju No.64912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64911

There was an Israeli dude who recut episodes of TNG into incredibly innapropriate little skits, but he got a cease and desist when he tried to sell a mail order DVD of them. Now most have been taken off of YouTube or other stream sites.
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Kai Opaka - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:20:56 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64912
Oh, that explains why there are like 10 different grin youtube accounts.

I wish I had that dvd...
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General Martok - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 00:08:18 EST ID:Y0lA/p9U No.64915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64912
But that's a very transformative work of parody. How the fuck?
It's like fair use doesn't even exist.
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Guinan - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 01:15:09 EST ID:D65nZOLV No.64917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64915
He survived under fair use for several years, but I think he simply had too many followers and views and someone somewhere got butthurt
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Herbert Rossoff - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 00:16:12 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64917
http://www.startrek.com/fan-films Pretty dickish policy IMO.

The Dead for example don't give a shit what you share/record/make
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Natima Lang - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 00:49:17 EST ID:DStF7Vev No.64943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64912
I don't think the thread is bumping anymore but just so you know I'm working on it.
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Guinan - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:34:16 EST ID:D65nZOLV No.64956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>64943
You are a champion of the people


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