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HMS Victory

- Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:48:37 EST Hnb2aNtF No.68038
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Why did this nerd build a model of a British warship for the French captain?
Dr. Denara Pel - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:06:52 EST v/mIhHdg No.68040 Reply
Picard is in almost every conceivable metric British in culture and nationalism is dead in the 24th century. He'd be more impressed at Geordi's accuracy in recreating naval history over any old salt over Trafalgar.
Lwaxana Troi - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:24:44 EST GXnxVYUu No.68041 Reply
B- b- but he's french. Didn't you hear his accent?
Phlox - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:20:06 EST u5aj/dMK No.68067 Reply

I assumed in the star trek timeline England won the 100 years war and became the same country.

Which is why Picard also has an english accent.
Senator Tal'aura - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:56:04 EST v/mIhHdg No.68069 Reply
A Picard family member fought at Trafalgar. England and France being the same country means there would be no Trafalgar.
Commander Sela - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 04:18:55 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68075 Reply
We've gone over this round these parts already. Picard is French and proud so he speaks only French but since it is a dead language by the time TNG takes place no one else knows French so everything he says has to be run through the universal translator, which Georgi set to have a British accent just to fuck with Picard.
Kono - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 05:50:56 EST MUJ4M6tq No.68077 Reply
What about his penchant for earl grey tea though.

A real frenchie would sip on coffee and wine all day.
Not to mention the lack of baguettes and barets.
Koss - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 04:21:13 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68087 Reply
if you pay attention in TNG it ain't just Picard ordering "Earl Grey, hot" it's a lot of people so I'm guessing it's just part of their globally homogeneous culture
Dr. Crell Moset - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:00:07 EST a/VX/oQL No.68088 Reply
As if this nightmare of a world isn't making it clear enough, Star Trek isn't our future. The France and England Picard is familiar are the result of post World War 3 borders and the loss of various bits of historical knowledge in the wake of the devastation.
Admiral Alidar Jarok - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:48:46 EST v/mIhHdg No.68093 Reply
>go through nuclear WW3 with genetically engineered super soldiers in the 90s
>still manage to do FTL space travel by the mid-2100s
I would sacrifice so many virgins for the Star Trek future to be our future. Shame, we won't be able to spring back from our WW3.
Thy'lek Shran - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 17:33:06 EST bOlOhkyn No.68101 Reply
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picking up something on the sensors, captain, looks like a Cat class planet
Legate Damar - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:16:56 EST xug1jwvT No.68103 Reply
The survivors are going to have a lot of toys to play with by the time ww3 is over.
we in it right now/bet that's what history books will say eventually.
Robin Lefler - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:14:52 EST eRBmx1YV No.68123 Reply
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The ship was a gift for Captain Zimbata of the USS Victory (and the model is of the ancient HMS Victory), not for Picard.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 19:03:44 EST KA3qn+7B No.68208 Reply
Toys from before ww2 maybe. All this cheap recycled plastic garbage will disintegrate in a fucking instant.
Nurse Alyssa Ogawa - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 04:28:28 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68297 Reply
>this post reminds me that we are nearing the end of our supply of Pre-Atomic steel and without it we will never sail the cosmos

man we're fucked
Guinan - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:34:37 EST b048m/L8 No.68319 Reply
Well, I'm not sure exactly what he meant by that, but his post got me doing some reading. Geiger counters and radiation detection equipment can't be made without steel forged before the first bombs went off. Period. But other than that and some relatively specific medical equipment, mostly used for detecting that radioactive dye (you know the one that almost certainly causes cancer- lol Bones would flip his fucking shit amirite?)

I wonder if there isn't some other major utility for pre-atomic steel that I didn't come across.. but the truth is we are REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel for this stuff. Old shipwrecks are the primary source of this material.
Lt. Maxwell Burke - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 13:28:29 EST jwjJ078M No.68328 Reply
>I wonder if there isn't some other major utility for pre-atomic steel that I didn't come across.. but the truth is we are REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel for this stuff. Old shipwrecks are the primary source of this material.
The big source is Scapa Flow which is literally a ton of shipwrecks from the end of WW1.
Admiral William J Ross - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 19:09:47 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68352 Reply
Radiation detection equipment is a necessity of space travel, that is exactly what I was talking about
Guinan - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 19:51:30 EST b048m/L8 No.68353 Reply
Now that I'm thinking about it... this is terrifying. There are very few places in the solar system that are not bombarded with constant radiation. Except within the protective field around earth. I mean if our atmosphere is now too dirty to produce steel clean enough its absurd to think you could produce it anywhere else.
Senator Pardek - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 20:45:23 EST 3I+80Vkt No.68355 Reply
I sincerely doubt its impossible. Never mind the fact these deposits were layed down LONG before our planet had any radioactive protection.

The Sun dumps far more radiation onto the earth per year then we've ever exploded in A-bombs, but somehow all metal is now impossible to use in dectors? Give me a break.
Private E Hamboyan - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:21:22 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68357 Reply
It's not about the waves, it's about a couple particular radioactive isotopes now being present in the atmosphere that were not there before the bombs went off

iirc it's mostly due to a type of cobalt floating around the atmosphere that gets captured by the iron carbon matrices when the steel is forged

this is serious business man and the world governments wouldn't be salvaging pre WWI ships for medical scanners if they had any better options
Major Rakal - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 23:30:10 EST bOlOhkyn No.68362 Reply
if these isotopes are so everywhere how come they don't get into the steel being remelted and reformed
Private E Hamboyan - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:30:47 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68364 Reply
when you turn iron into steel you heat it up to a much higher temperature that expands the steel and allows carbon to get inbetween atoms, which results in the stronger metal, steel
Major Rakal - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:49:52 EST bOlOhkyn No.68366 Reply
yeah, that's how steel is made as far as I know

What I don't get is if isotopes are so totally everywhere why does this pre-bomb metal have a magic ability to not get ISOTOPED while it's melted, or just from hanging around on Earth?
Guinan - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:30:06 EST ZddlLn8U No.68367 Reply
I dont think they need to melt it, they need at least a small strip of it to make Geiger counters and shiet
Private E Hamboyan - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:18:45 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68370 Reply
because different levels of heat will expand the molecular structure of the steel in different amounts and only when it is heated to forging level temperatures are the gaps between the atoms large enough for these isotopes to creep in
Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:54:17 EST 3I+80Vkt No.68385 Reply
Again, the world has more background radiation then we've put out in weapons, but somehow, this radiation is magic, and doesn't affect metals? I'm VERY skeptical. This is legit the first time I've ever heard of this. I figured it might come up in one of my 20th century history classes talking about the effects of atomic weapons.
General K'Trelan - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:05:57 EST yLFBT7xS No.68387 Reply
Like >>68357 already explained, it's not "radiation," it's the presence of specific radionuclides that weren't present in our atmosphere prior to the detonation of nuclear weapons.

For the record, this is also the first time I've ever heard of this, but even the most cursory Google search will show you that's it's a well-established phenomenon.
Natima Lang - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:21:34 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68388 Reply
It wasn't something I'd ever learned in school it was something my friend and I stumbled upon when doing research into building musical saws. It turns out that post-atomic steel saws do not produce quite as much resonance as their pre-atomic counterparts when played with a violin bow.
Christine Chapel - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:42:58 EST bOlOhkyn No.68393 Reply
that seems like it would be more an issue of craftsmanship than isotopes

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