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- Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:34:29 EST ZddlLn8U No.68368
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ALERT ALERT ALERT
HOLY SHIT

VIACOM AND CBS ARE RE-MERGING! AHHHHHHHHHH
Star Trek could be made whole for the first time in decades.. is it too little too late or are we about to experience a Trekassance?!
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Malik - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:08:16 EST Fl6IM0Ha No.68369 Reply
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Really? This isn't a late April Fools' joke, right?
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Guinan - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:57:29 EST ZddlLn8U No.68375 Reply
>>68374
...only really the last paragraph is trek relevant, but I nonetheless recommend giving it a read
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Christine Chapel - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:04:02 EST bOlOhkyn No.68377 Reply
oh good now they can make awful piles of shit with the full trek IP
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David Marcus - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:18:19 EST Fl6IM0Ha No.68378 Reply
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>>68374
Well, shit. This is interesting. Wonder if it'll affect the Picard series.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:40:36 EST KA3qn+7B No.68380 Reply
Man... I'll give the article a read but I'm getting really tired of scrounging for Trek-related hopium.
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Guinan - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:46:16 EST ZddlLn8U No.68383 Reply
>>68380
Dude I feel you.. but this was the one thing over the past few years that I thought might maybe possibly save the franchise.. but the truth is it's probably always been too late. I'm really jonesing for that hopium myself.. I feel like I just got a tiny crumb of it
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Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:51:23 EST 3I+80Vkt No.68384 Reply
At least this will kill off that fucking bad robot licence
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David Marcus - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:56:24 EST Fl6IM0Ha No.68386 Reply
>>68383
I just want a good series that takes place after DS9 and Voyager. I know it'll never happen, but I'll keep dreaming.
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Deanna Troi - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:43:21 EST qxosunFH No.68402 Reply
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>>68389

If you mean one that takes place in the 24th century, speak for yourself. If they do anything post-Voyager it should be at least another century in the future. The same thing that made DS9 great would make it impossible to do a good sequel series in 2019: Well established Alpha Quadrant Lore.

You think you want to see how the Ferengi Alliance and the Romulan Star Empire and the Klingon Empire changed immediately after the dominion war, but deep down you know these won't make for great episodes you just want to know the answers to a bunch of nagging questions. Do we really want a season long arc about Rom's reforms on Ferenginar? And that's probably the easiest most clearly defined arc one to do, at least then you could make it some kind of foil arc between post-war militarization of the UFP and socialization of the ferengi. All the other empires have even less well defined post war arcs. What story do we tell with postwar Bajor, Cardassia, Romulus, etc. The stuff they did in the TNG movies makes these potential arcs even more of a mess.
Do you think you can find a writers staff that can pick up where Voyager left off 20 years ago and keep that same feeling? You're loony.

Do what TNG did, give some space (the final frontier) between the old series and the new one, so that it's harder to make a direct 1:1 comparison ("oh, the new guy playing Worf sucks!" "Why does the transporter effect look different?") and easier to forgive canon established in simpler time (like a world war in 1996 and the continuing existence of the Soviet Union)
Give it 100 years, wink at the audience every once and awhile but make something that has its own gravity rather than just a direct sequel. We see Admiral McCoy in TNG, we don't need a whole explanation as to how he got to that point after STVI.

More 24th century only sounds good in our minds because we have good memories of it. It could be done well, but it probably wouldn't be, and that was if CBS was inclined to pander to the oldschool fans. TNG: Discovery (aka the upcoming Picard series) is the best we'll get from more 24th century adventures and it'll be handled about as well as Kirk handled this manual transmission.
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David Marcus - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:00:35 EST Fl6IM0Ha No.68404 Reply
>>68402
I'd be absolutely okay with that. I don't need to have any of the old actors return or anything, just a new series taking place in the pre-STD timeline with a new cast of characters. Heck, they can even go back to TOS' budget and so long as the writing is good, I'll watch it.
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Pah-wraith - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 06:57:53 EST +NaP1sHU No.68417 Reply
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>>68386
Y'know, I'd kinda like a post-Ent pre-TOS series, get to see the Federation comming together and the development of that Federation philosophy we all know and love.

It would also have to have TOS-looking Klingons, more mellowed out Vulcans, and perhaps use the Romulan war to explain the more clunky tech we see compared to ENT.

No more boiler suits, bright colours and miniskirts.
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Gaila - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 07:58:56 EST byRgzBbN No.68418 Reply
Why do you continue to poke my open wound? Let me grieve in peace, do not give me these false hopes.
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Fer'at - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:25:17 EST ojdhqPz7 No.68419 Reply
>>68368
This isn't a good thing- because what it's going to mean is that they are going to try to justify STD and Shitcard as being legitimate canon.
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DaiMon Bractor - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 11:37:01 EST +NaP1sHU No.68426 Reply
>>68424
You're right, what we need is another series of bland interior depression ships, with grimdark bullshit.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 18:05:44 EST KA3qn+7B No.68428 Reply
>>68426
Yes because that's the ONLY alternative....
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DaiMon Tarr - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:31:11 EST GXnxVYUu No.68430 Reply
Not to bring out the political controversy of the merger, but the continued consolidation of control of the media into the hands of a few companies is concerning.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 00:26:55 EST 3662hAdZ No.68444 Reply
>>68430
It's an evolved form of the studio system but all these companies are consolidating to fight off the threat posed by Netflix, Amazon and Apple that are challenging the existing 5 major film studios. It's why they all got streaming services and taking back control of what they own and are monetizing it.
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Composer Delvok - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 02:53:24 EST +hZ2VPUw No.68447 Reply
It's not about who owns Trek; it's about who makes it. Plus Star Trek is damaged goods that, considering the garbage in the pipeline, will take years to unfuck. I hope this leads to better decisions with the brand going forward, but the spirit and intelligence that made Trek what it used to be can't be recaptured through corporate mergers.
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Captain Goroth - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 01:36:58 EST csfyHOx1 No.68448 Reply
>>68447
This. Once a pooped is pooped. It can't go back into the butt. This is not only true of Star Trek. But of Life.

That'll be 20 dollars.
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The Doctor - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:52:38 EST byRgzBbN No.68460 Reply
>>68457

i see two butts farting at each other. it makes me think of those ancient japanese paintings
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 15:24:44 EST udrxi7fH No.68461 Reply
>>68460
Its two butts, pooping back and forth, forever.
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Lee - Fri, 23 Aug 2019 22:51:05 EST cz2TWSOJ No.68472 Reply
Lets speculate what actually would be necessary to revive trek,
and compare it to what is actually feasible to happen.

  • instantly fire Kurtzman
  • sue Bad Robot for trademark violation
  • completely de-canonize the entire kelvin timeline
  • make Roddenberries kids majority holders of the new company
  • form a committee from people in the fanbase & authors of trek literature with the job to hire people who were involved in canon production at one point.
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Dr. Lewis Zimmerman - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 11:25:18 EST bOlOhkyn No.68474 Reply
>>68472
>make Roddenberries kids majority holders of the new company
maybe there's a Fontana heir or somebody instead?
even Gene Rod was of questionable help to Trek, like selling off spare effects footage through his shady company he used for selling merch and flipping studio assets run by the chick who did the "grassroots" "fan" campaign to write letters to NBC
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Lee - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:28:54 EST cz2TWSOJ No.68475 Reply
>>68474
I see, you mean cloning Him, raising him in a Trek conference hall and then installing him as some sort of monarch?
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Dr. Lewis Zimmerman - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:21:08 EST bOlOhkyn No.68476 Reply
>>68475
>him
DC Fontana was a chick, I was thinking more like, at some point she may have had a kid.
I'm not really on-board the "your parent was skilled and famous so you should be too" theory but if we're running with that then let's at least try somebody other than Roddenberry
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Lee - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 16:08:13 EST cz2TWSOJ No.68477 Reply
>>68476
That wasn't who I was referring to,I guess my Kahless reference was to subtle.

On a non fictional note:
That point about gifting the ViacomCBS company away was mainly snark, but I'll elaborate the point:
In a hypothetical scenario where the financial (not creative) control of the company is turned into something based on heritage, it would be easier to claim the decision is based on merit.
Just because the question "What dad would have thought about this?" is easier to answer.

That said it would be nice if it would be possible to skip that point, but I'd expect quite a bit of retaliation to what would be essentially a trek coup d'├ętat.
I think we can all agree that a change of ownership would be necessary and so I went for what I view as the safest option.
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B'Etor - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 22:26:44 EST bOlOhkyn No.68478 Reply
>>68477\
no I got the TNG joke, but I'm just saying that if we're doing that then let's do Fontana
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Guinan - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:39:22 EST b048m/L8 No.68483 Reply
>>68480
This and in retrospect I feel like an incompetent topah for not seeing it

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