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- Fri, 06 Sep 2019 10:03:03 EST QkgujBys No.68523
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What would be the political ideology in the federation?
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Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 10:45:36 EST cz2TWSOJ No.68524 Reply
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NOT THIS THREAD AGAIN
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Ensign Robin Lefler - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 13:07:54 EST ClNaVvvJ No.68525 Reply
>>68523
Depends on the timeframe. TOS era would be a great balance between everyone's needs being met but the freedom to fuck off and do your own thing as needed. By the end of TNG a mixture of the realities of trying to run what is more or less the Alpha Quadrant's largest power and just the general way societies tend to restrict freedom over time in response to specific events/tragedies it'd be de facto fairly restricted if you didn't want Starfleet, scientific inquiry or a life of nothing much. **The Culture is a much better utopian future.**
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Broca - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 20:01:01 EST bOlOhkyn No.68527 Reply
whatever the writers want it to be at any given moment
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 04:39:02 EST KA3qn+7B No.68533 Reply
Federation = fags
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Captain Kurn - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 10:06:00 EST pyyl83GW No.68537 Reply
Across the federation 8,000 light years. It would take more than a life time to travel at normal speed warp, political ideology would be different in specks.
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Senator Kimara Cretak - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 10:57:58 EST cz2TWSOJ No.68540 Reply
>>68539
Seems to be a guy who tried every possible way to politically dunk on trek.
To the premise: The feds are definitely commies, that doesn't mean they're marxist tho.

What I found most hilarious:
>Spartan lifestyles: Even on the mixed civilian/military spaceport DS9, no one seems to have anything but a handful of room decorations and sentimental momentoes. Quarters are quite clean and barren even when children live there (and anyone with small children knows how silly that is). This could arguably be described as a lifestyle "choice" rather than the result of government edict, but it is also quite consistent with the growing list of evidence that the Federation is communist.
Ahahaha, that's the modern equivalent of saying you're having a spartan access to information because your desktop isn't cluttered with icons.
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Degra - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 06:16:12 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68544 Reply
>>68539
why would I read an essay about star trek on a star wars website that's just dumb
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Michael Jonas - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 13:16:27 EST bOlOhkyn No.68546 Reply
>>68540
yeah that quarters thing is reading a lot into not putting a lot of shit on your walls when you're moving around a lot in a society where you can literally push a button, get anything made on the spot, and then return it to the nothing from whence it came

also http://archive.fo/HzLbZ
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I.G. Tarah - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:28:31 EST CzuI0mOh No.68568 Reply
>TOS: 1960's liberalism
>TNG: technocratic syndicalism
>DS9: anarcho-capitalism
>VOY: gynocratiicism undermined by realpolitik
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Vice Admiral Nakamura - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:33:48 EST fhOpgdra No.68599 Reply
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Space liberalism. The people who think it's communism don't know what communism is lol
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Minuet - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:23:46 EST fhOpgdra No.68645 Reply
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>>68639
If you're really interested, theory is widely accessible in many languages for free online. Read it or find an audiobook
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Katherine Pulaski - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 21:43:47 EST 2ysCqvY+ No.68794 Reply
>>68782
DS9 is pretty lit tho and the farengi eps are among the top tier.
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Burt Ryan - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 02:52:36 EST jwjJ078M No.68795 Reply
>>68794
Until they ruined the Ferengi in the last few seasons sure. They went from being a unique alien culture with their own traits to 'not being like Humans/the Federation bad' and having an enforced reform under Rom.
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Burt Ryan - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 11:39:36 EST jwjJ078M No.68798 Reply
>>68797
The idea that it's a positive arc for the Ferengi to lose their distinctive culture and beliefs and become humans with big ears is in direct opposition to the earlier Trek ideal of embracing and respecting the differences between species.
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Mot - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 17:09:05 EST bOlOhkyn No.68802 Reply
>>68798
yeah infinite diversity infinite combinations not be a bunch of fucking terran fags
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Senator Vreenak - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 01:09:22 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68803 Reply
>>68802
that phrase has nothing to do with culture, it's purely about the shapes of genitalia
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David Marcus - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 12:52:32 EST bOlOhkyn No.68804 Reply
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>>68803
considering Gene that's actually very possible
looks like it's sticking it in a hole, so yeah
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M'Ress - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 17:10:06 EST 7ceFzy3c No.68805 Reply
I'd say the fed is just a hyper smug version of the 'European dream', they constantly pat themselves on the back and feel all smug about how they have ended human suffering and everyone has ultimate autonomy to perfect themselves and find meaning and all that jazz, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Like, we see in DS9 and TNG that the federation is pretty grim, colonists treated like shit, poverty and rape gangs, every admiral is evil, bureaucrats are all incompetent, and important legal precedent is set by Goddamn military tribunals.

Every time Picard or co starts rambling on about the economics of the future and all that, it's almost like they are trying to convince themselves everything is fine and they live in a utopia.

However, the utopianism in TOS is a lot less hamfisted, and so much more believable.
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Liquidator Brunt - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 20:41:14 EST 60zgf9Xq No.68806 Reply
>>68804
That's what I'm saying. Gene doesn't care about exotic cultures because they often will have social norms/taboos that would get in the way of outsiders sticking their weird shaped meat tubes into the holes of the locals. The Federation quietly destroys the old values system and replaces it with one where everybody is fucking everybody. And that is the core of Gene's dream, no more social boundaries to stop him from sticking his weird looking dick in weird looking holes.
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Guinan - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:51:38 EST b048m/L8 No.68871 Reply
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>>68809
>>68804
>>68806
Heh, so Wesley was never his self-insert at all, he was just a poorly written piece of shit. The self-insert was Kirk.. then Riker. Fuckin' lol

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