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That ship topic

- Sun, 05 Apr 2020 14:08:19 EST 6AgOaDHQ No.70045
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What's your favorite ship design?

Hard mode: no Enterprise D.
Kira Nerys - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 15:04:22 EST /k4yhqHy No.70048 Reply
For the Federation it would have to be the Intrepid class, overall it would have to be the D7.
James T Kirk - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 15:37:24 EST mw1AnnTr No.70049 Reply
Vesta or Defiant Class
Liquidator Brunt - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 15:51:57 EST uq4H31gj No.70050 Reply
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TMP, no question. Nuts and bolts, she looks and feels like a working ship. A tool and yet more.
Gun Runner Sakonna - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 16:36:58 EST jwjJ078M No.70051 Reply
What idiot would pick the oversized and underperforming Galaxy class for favourite ship? It's pretty much everything wrong with Federation ship design down to the needless addition of hundreds of civilians many far too young to consent to the very real possibility of violent death in combat and the stupid saucer splitting capability. It's pretty much just the Trek equivalent of the old battlecruisers that are much more of a symbol than a practical ship.
Biddle Coleridge - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 23:13:39 EST bOlOhkyn No.70056 Reply
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because it looks cool
it's favorite, not highest power level

I like the Phase II Prise
Turanj - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 01:42:14 EST nldWS06A No.70057 Reply
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NX-01 has a place in my heart because of its cold, utilitarian, spartan, even brutalist interior.
Go to risa if you want a vacation, I want to see the edge of whats known.
Governor Torak - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 01:51:03 EST 6HCZchAH No.70058 Reply
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I'm probably in a very small minority with this but I REALLY like the Enterprise E. Maybe because I thought it was absolutely the shit as a kid and teenager, but it sticks with me to this day.
It's a pretty radical departure from any of the other motion picture stuff or the D but I think it's just fuckin' sexy.

I'd give it a tie with the Kelvin Enterprise A from Star Trek Beyond. Again I've got some questionable motives partly because the original from the Kelvin movies was such a fuckin' travesty. But I still think it's really really nice. I feel like it captures a lot of energy from everything from the original TMP incarnations through to the Enterprise C and a little of the D in there.
Like the E it basically got snubbed and we're never going to see it in a good movie.

A fuckin' shame on both counts.
Governor Torak - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 01:57:56 EST 6HCZchAH No.70059 Reply
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Bruh, saucer separation was a thing the whole time. They just never had the budget and technology to feature it the way the writers wanted to.

Though if I remember right it was very not formalized for the original Enterprise and they'd need either a tow to a starbase or the assistance of another equivalent class ship as well as a fair amount of time to put back together.

also picturing the Enterprise E
Biddle Coleridge - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 17:54:37 EST bOlOhkyn No.70061 Reply
yeah you're in a small minority on the E for sure
but yeah as much as flaretrek is dumb it had some nice ents
James T Kirk - Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:08:51 EST LNOdPH0z No.70066 Reply

I'm torn. On the one hand I objectively do love the Sovereign Class. It's a beautiful, shiny, sleek and powerful looking space ship, and I think visually it reflects the design of the Constitution Class more closely than the Galaxy does.

On the other hand, that's also my problem with it. The other two Enterprises were weird and different. That helps make them memorable. The E looks sexy because it's derivative and safe. It does not boldly go. I look at it and it feels like a visual reminder of when the franchise really started to irredeemably put style over substance.
Captain Blunt - Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:27:44 EST sQNs9J+b No.70067 Reply
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No 1 fav has always been the refit Enterprise but I also love the looks of the Excelsior too. K'tinga is my fav non-starfleet ship.
Captain Blunt - Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:28:52 EST sQNs9J+b No.70068 Reply
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Captain Blunt - Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:30:14 EST sQNs9J+b No.70069 Reply
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Kai Winn - Wed, 08 Apr 2020 11:44:49 EST 80TqSdDN No.70075 Reply
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Nova class refit
Idrin - Mon, 13 Apr 2020 02:11:35 EST wPqebFzz No.70096 Reply
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Miranda Class, workhorse, versatile, flexible, tough.
Guinan - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:35:55 EST bCzkJB8H No.70726 Reply
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Electromagetism is scale invariant, meaning that similar phenomenon can be observed at any scale, where the time elapsed and the energy required will be proportionate across all scales to eachother. Therefore, a low setting on phasers for the ship would still have energy contained within its beam many magnitudes of power over that which a hand phaser can generate. However, Riker tells us in his crazy episode that a phaser at its highest setting, wide beam could blow up a fucking building, whereas the same phaser could just incapacitate someone for about a minute on a stun setting.. so we can see that hand phasers have a pretty wide scale of power settings. Presumably, a ship's phasers would have the same range of variability, but would be tuned by default to some value on the higher end of the power output bar, but where the amount of power fired per shot is most efficient. The 'sweet spot', if you will. Adjusting the phasers to a lower setting might require modifications to the hardware which is probably fine-tuned for this 'sweet spot'. Ultimately, though, it seems unlikely that the ship could maintain the phaser effect at its minimum possible energy at a scale 500x (or more) than that of a hand phaser, the amount of energy delivered in the ship's lower setting.. its 'stun' setting.. would most likely still be lethal to anyone in its path, but it wouldn't have the punch to cut through a planet's crust to it's mantle or anything like a normal phaser could do. It would just crispify any living thing in its blast and leave metal, rock, etc unharmed.

That's my take, just considering known physics and basic engineering principles.
Vekma - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:55:28 EST cTuyxun4 No.70730 Reply
Possibly, but it would be like shooting a car with a taser.

"stunning" a ship is usually done by disabling it's propulsion and shields, and then holding it with a tractor beam
Lt. Cmdr. Calvin Hudson - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:26:18 EST lRJSxfGA No.70737 Reply

There was one ship that was featured in a one off episode of Voyager, where the EMH emailed himself to the Alpha Quadrant. He ended up on some experimental ship Starfleet ship with four nacelles, and could split into three sections. Voyager’s EMH activated his totally gay counterpart and spanked the Romulans trying to steal it.

I feel like this ship would be the next logical step after the saucer separation trick in the Galaxy Class, Then again, if Starfleet is going to make a ship that can split into three parts, two of which I assume are fully warp capable, why not just make three ships, and have them work together as a strike force, or battle group, or whatever? I feel like the whole splitting apart trick is a waste of time, especially in a combat situation. That time could be better spent firing quantum torpedoes and shit.
Lt. Reginald Barclay - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 09:40:13 EST jwjJ078M No.70741 Reply
That's the Prometheus class and yes, why not just make three ships? That way you can be in three places at once other times.>>70737
Broca - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 00:01:23 EST 5SVJcPG+ No.70742 Reply
There is a whole book series on the Prometheus.

>I feel like this ship would be the next logical step
They are with the "future fleet" in ENT so that is likely the case.
Dexter Remmick - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:54:14 EST xXdUGzuV No.70810 Reply
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I like the design of USS TITAN
Weyoun 8 - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 16:54:08 EST mw1AnnTr No.70819 Reply
Looks like Riker's ship alright, a step behind the lead (Sovereign) lol.
Elim Garak - Wed, 28 Oct 2020 05:06:45 EST xXdUGzuV No.70879 Reply
No love for Klingon or Romulan ships?
Raven Overcoming Orchid !Tz0ULG.7to - Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:43:28 EST pRn2Hy3L No.70883 Reply
Does a ship from a series of books count as the canon starship? My headcanon before the books came out was the Titan was a Galaxy class ship. At least I think that would be the kind of ship Riker would want to be captain of.
Orator Plegg - Sun, 01 Nov 2020 20:34:37 EST p7k60Z+d No.70909 Reply
In the TOS episode "A Piece of the Action" Kirk has Scotty stun a city block full of gangsters from orbit. He tells the mob bosses the people are not dead.
Dr. Reyga - Sun, 08 Nov 2020 20:29:32 EST hLZu80v1 No.70915 Reply

theres a reason JL loved the Stargazer so much
Kirayoshi O'Brien - Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:43:20 EST DznTlomT No.70952 Reply
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Welcome aboard on starship DURRRRRH
Frank Stallone, d/b/a John Titor - Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:38:52 EST hKbNLEW+ No.70961 Reply
the shuttlecraft that scotty got for free for surviving long enough to make sure the multi-trillion dollar enterprise didn't explode was pretty sweet
T'Les - Wed, 03 Feb 2021 00:49:23 EST DznTlomT No.71183 Reply
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>when your faster-than-light ship can't go faster-than-light because it has no deflector dish
Grand Nagus Zek - Wed, 03 Feb 2021 08:57:56 EST 1ISt2B61 No.71185 Reply
Ah yes Freedom Class. Freedom from Taste, Freedom from Logic, Freedom from worth...
Lt. Maxwell Burke - Wed, 03 Feb 2021 09:04:13 EST OjwVOpxK No.71186 Reply
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That ship reminded me of a unicycle or something so I googled 'unicycle star trek' and found something unexpected
Ensign Wright - Thu, 04 Feb 2021 07:00:01 EST 82qLO86n No.71190 Reply
They also need to give it more power to warp +9, a nacelle of thickened warp coils
Ghee P'Trell - Tue, 02 Mar 2021 20:30:53 EST ckLlHq1C No.71257 Reply
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>That ship reminded me of a unicycle
Come on, it's clearly a pizzacutter. Except with better ergonomics.

>My headcanon before the books came out was the Titan was a Galaxy class ship.
I always thought that the reason he wasn't in a hurry to become a captain was because the Enterprise was the flagship, and anything else would have been something smaller and less fancy.

Also, Riker is not a galaxy class diplomat like Picard, so him commanding something lik an attack ship or a cruiser makes perfect sense.
Marla Gilmore - Mon, 31 May 2021 18:17:27 EST CGDlxfAp No.71390 Reply

If I remember correctly, Picard wasn’t supposed to be saved during that whole being assimilated thing. Riker was gonna take over as captain, with that one blond lady taking over as first officer.

Apparently, that line of events didn’t go over well with certain people, so it got scrapped.
Vice Admiral Nakamura - Mon, 31 May 2021 19:37:46 EST TTcXb8JG No.71391 Reply
Could just have been contract negotiation shenanigans.
Porthos - Tue, 01 Jun 2021 15:51:15 EST w8Bn7lAd No.71392 Reply
That was the back up if Stewart walked away from the show. It wasn't the main plan.
Species 8472 - Wed, 02 Jun 2021 05:31:05 EST ru8oxv11 No.71393 Reply
I hope Stewart lives long and the show prospers. I can see him with ESP sometimes, and he has a few age issues on the mind.
Broik - Thu, 03 Jun 2021 11:10:49 EST u5aj/dMK No.71394 Reply
discordc.com/invite/pdJcTmH IM on my fav discord star trek discord you wanna chat
The Traveler - Sat, 05 Jun 2021 06:48:12 EST CIonKGA4 No.71397 Reply
Excelsior baby, that sleek 80s design, clear progression from Constitution class. Custom tea cups and saucers that you can let fall on the floor when Praxis explodes. Bullshit trans warp drive that doesn’t really exist. I like to travel like a sleazy admiral, imagine all the Vulcan and Orion love slaves you can cram in one of those.

Away from Starfleet, probably the OG Borg cube, or D’deridex.
K'Ehleyr - Mon, 05 Jul 2021 02:58:30 EST kjc67Ms+ No.71420 Reply
Just a question in how ship fighting mechanics work, wouldn't they fight at the fastest warp possible, possibly putting the ship in an auto maneuvers around the other one for torpedo launches,

phasers wouldn't be of any use from the large distance and time to fire from the direction changes at high warp? If one ship doesn't move as fast then it looses.
Senator Tal'aura - Mon, 05 Jul 2021 03:49:20 EST O02P7RYT No.71421 Reply
Combat almost never happens at warp except when it does.

Comes up a few ties in ENT
>Suliban ships shot lasers
>Alien of the week did the same when trying to assassinate vulkan ambasador lady

Couple times in TNG
>all instances I remember are fireing torpedoes backwards at things.
>The picard maneuver but that's not fighting at warp but using warp to DBZ after image during a fight

Twice in Voy
>Transwarp modded voy chased down the fake Prometheus and shot lasers
>fired torpedoes backwards in borg mail tube

None in DS9
>closest example is going low warp in the middle of the bajor system to yank fake bashir with a tractor beam after dropping out.

None of the weapons go at FTL speeds. Shooting a beam backwards while at warp would be like throwing a ball backwards out of a moving car. Shooting forward would be an ultra fast beam. When they fire torps out the back they are traveling forward just a little slower as the engines are braking to slow down while the ship behind slams into them. Same could be done with the beams but the ranges and speeds of attack get skewed hard when at light speed or above. Of course this isn't hard sci fi so the writers wouldn't care to painstakingly make those rules for the universe so it's "No, unless yes."
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Senator Tal'aura - Mon, 05 Jul 2021 03:51:10 EST O02P7RYT No.71422 Reply
For DS9 I forgot some low end ship chased down criscos captured jem hardon ship when they were going to blow up the semen factory.
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Guinan - Mon, 05 Jul 2021 03:51:13 EST y3s/MVLY No.71423 Reply
Although its inconsistent, there's been multiple mentions of there being issues with maneuvering at warp

And more realistically with the zany combat style you describe the ships would just miss eachother and spastically fly in opposite directions
Bernardo Calvera - Tue, 06 Jul 2021 02:34:10 EST DznTlomT No.71425 Reply
yeah as far as I know there aren't a lot of warp maneuvers that involve a U-turn or traveling in a tight circle. The closest I can think of is when they go around the sun but that causes them to go back in time. Which Spock tended to avoid doing because he complains how difficult the calculations are to slingshot properly without fucking up.
In a game called Independence War I remember when ships were in LDS you couldn't attack them unless you shot this special missile who's sole function was to bring down the enemy ship's LDS field. Yeah anything that involves faster than light technology brings a host of weapon applications terrorists could use but are never addressed in sci-fi as it would complicate ship-to-ship combat. In Star Trek's case it was to strike the analogue closer to cannon firing ships blasting at each other.
Michael Rostov - Tue, 06 Jul 2021 05:05:46 EST FgMrFKpA No.71428 Reply
I remember the Defiant breaking through with a radar shot, it was weaving forward with other ships at high warp. So they would look like waves going in and out of fighting distance with each other.

Also the first borg encounter with enterprise, they were lining up backward torpedo shots at the borg cube at maximum warp, I don't think torpedoes could go faster or infront, more like find a maximum safe distance then bend a curb to the ship your fighting, finding the furthest point to release the torpedo then curb away. Their torpedoes can't match your escape velocity but incoming one's from yours can.
James T Kirk - Wed, 18 Aug 2021 12:51:19 EST X5//du8M No.71516 Reply

I like how 87% of the ship is just the turbolift shaft
resistance is futile - Thu, 19 Aug 2021 04:45:31 EST iQooFYps No.71520 Reply
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cube is best shape for space; look at all these superfluous 'aerodynamics' where there's no air; telegraphic your tactical heading for anybody in visual range. silly.

maybe sphere for special occasions i guess
Gul Darhe'el - Thu, 21 Oct 2021 01:27:40 EST gWYPlmMZ No.71748 Reply
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Anyone for California class?
Michael Rostov - Sun, 07 Nov 2021 02:59:46 EST gaAUf/18 No.71799 Reply
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excelsior, intrepid, nova, and this thing whatever this is
Michael Rostov - Sun, 07 Nov 2021 03:01:35 EST gaAUf/18 No.71800 Reply
khitomer class, from star trek online, apparently some kind of klingon-federation alliance.
Colonel Lovok - Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:48:14 EST gaAUf/18 No.71814 Reply
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I didn't like it at first but it grew on me, it's a good design for its purpose.
But good luck evacuating the engineering section through the nacelles in an emergency especially if the turbolifts connecting it all go down. But this ship is generally not designed to be on the front lines of dangerous situations anyways and doing without a proper neck saves on materials and bulk and keeps the design barebones.

It doesn't take a lot of resources to rebuild or repair or replace. Swapping in replacement nacelles or a new engineering section or replacing the saucer or the pylons holding the nacelles or the engineering sections is probably all plug and play. Whereas swapping out a horribly damaged engineering section on an intrepid or sovereign class would be impossible and would require a full rebuild, because of how well integrated the engineering section is with the rest of the ship.

It's a great design for what it is, a great general purpose small jobs ship, but never a flagship or front line combat vessel.
Colonel Lovok - Mon, 08 Nov 2021 23:18:24 EST gaAUf/18 No.71815 Reply
Being so light and barebones its also probably pretty efficient on the dilithium use, which we know can't be replicated, and has to be mined. Antimatter likewise may not be an unlimited resource. So for the resources required to not just build but operate a larger and more powerful sovereign class or the small but complex and expensive intrepid, you could probably build a few california class instead. Also it just looks nonthreatening, it's clearly not a warship or it would have more armor and thicker pylons and probably a neck. And for second contact with a species already deemed safe to deal with, it makes good political sense not to orbit a scary looking battleship around their planet for the peace talks and membership arrangements. You don't want them to feel or complain they were pressured or threatened into joining the Federation.
Ensign Robin Lefler - Mon, 24 Jan 2022 03:00:20 EST A2MXkPM/ No.72033 Reply
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I like Defiant-CD
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Molly O'Brien - Sat, 28 May 2022 02:11:46 EST eLHseaXX No.72219 Reply
naming a ship ARES? It's like you WANT a fight?
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