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- Wed, 08 Jan 2020 05:56:12 EST NJsnEuDn No.261484
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Where'd the other 2 adult boards go?
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Hedda Smallson - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 06:37:02 EST lJoWWmPU No.261485 Reply
This is a Christian image board now.
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Nigel Pimmerwill - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 08:03:50 EST AChteHOh No.261486 Reply
They were complete trash... but they were my complete trash 😢
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Priscilla Cubbersirk - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 08:14:13 EST cGBpqq46 No.261488 Reply
Good riddance. I can finally show this place to my mom.
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Priscilla Fackledat - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:33:27 EST rYIAP4uI No.261492 Reply
>>261484

Patreon finger-wagged kirt into removing them

they were trash anyway and nothing of value was lost
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Martin Gittingfoot - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 11:06:43 EST GFOjOFBq No.261493 Reply
>>261492
>>261486
would have been nice if he mentioned a single word about it beforehand instead of just dropping another shitty change on his users out of the blue, but clearly he doesn't give a shit about the site other than its value as a side hustle, there were threads on /sa/ from like 2013 with years worth of decent content people could have saved
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Priscilla Genningworth - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 12:36:03 EST znUfLur+ No.261494 Reply
>>261493
None of this is incorrect, but Kirt is desperate for Patreon bucks so they gotta go asap.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 12:41:47 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261495 Reply
>>261494
>>261493
they gave me 24 hours to remove the boards otherwise i would have missed the payout window for the month, had all my patrons wiped, and lost a significant amount of my rent

the boards have been gone for almost two months
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Fuck Herryford - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 12:44:43 EST 7yStbK85 No.261496 Reply
>>261495
someone else here said you had a full time job, i thought
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Simon Honeyfuck - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:29:25 EST 11VT5lvm No.261500 Reply
>>261495
Someone said /ga/ sucked and /sa/ went very wrong after bots wiped most of the megathreads off and it got repopulated by cosplayer stalking creeps anyway. /wc/ was a loss, but these two? What a shame.

Speaking of bots though, anything going to happen with those?
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 14:19:06 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261501 Reply
>>261500
Chinabot's been heavily cut down recently. Improved the fingerprinting on it.
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Simon Honeyfuck - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 14:49:23 EST 11VT5lvm No.261502 Reply
>>261501
I noticed but it's all the new bots. Chanbots linking fictional posts, going off topic and stuff. Unamusement park and that lot, probably just one bot.
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Martin Sanderforth - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 15:24:53 EST XZPkhIgJ No.261503 Reply
>>261502
don't forget the /pol/ bots and street fighter bot on /vg/

but china bot will forever live in infamy for his blacksmithing post
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Eugene Fammlestot - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 15:52:12 EST LOOvzQWz No.261504 Reply
>>261503
Street fighter isn't a bot though. He talks a bit on /a/
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Martin Gegglechatch - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:27:30 EST fTKz+4Ck No.261508 Reply
/sa/ turned into a deluge of posts like:

>give me noodes of this instagram slut plz

It got pretty shit
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:48:00 EST 5RcKYIMS No.261509 Reply
>>261493
Lol kid there was a thread that talked about it like forever ago and they were there but delisted for the longest time. The only thing there is to be salty about is that you didn't pay attention.
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Barnaby Worthinggold - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:46:39 EST 4hYHgb4k No.261513 Reply
>>261493
They were on here six years and nobody saved? Sounds pretty shit.
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Ebenezer Dellernug - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 20:21:03 EST mqsna6k8 No.261514 Reply
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those boards sucked anyway
if we had a ton of amateur porn and a supportive community based around it like circle circlejerk jerk does i'd be pissed off about this, but, like, we didn't
just keep /1701/ forever please, i like my weird stoner trek board
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Shitting Finningnudge - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 20:43:02 EST egvggedk No.261515 Reply
I'm just glad the secret futurism board is still there
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Hamilton Fiddlefield - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 23:12:51 EST znUfLur+ No.261518 Reply
>>261509
>there was a thread that talked about it like forever ago
Was the thread actually made shortly before the removal of the board (like in that 24 hour period Patreon apparently gave Kirt), or was this some shit talked about years ago?
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Walter Blevingford - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 00:03:27 EST GFOjOFBq No.261519 Reply
>>261518
it was made the day after the removal when someone noticed they were gone without any mention of it anywhere on the site
also for whatever reason it was deleted, just like all the threads asking about that bancheck bug. I still don't even get why they had to crack down to radio silence on that one

seriously do the admins even realize just how much contempt for the users comes across from stuff like this?
how fucking hard is it to communicate about what's going on with the website?
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Nicholas Greenford - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 23:42:45 EST t71zJRtw No.261549 Reply
/sa/ was great for that one sauce thread that lasted multiple years before some spam fag bumped it off the board and for the naked wrestling chick pics before that dried up a year or two ago.

Also, why did Patreon have a stick up its ass over just two of the three porn boards instead of all of them? Actual naked people are a bigger threat to Christianity than crudely-drawn Chinese cartoons of naked children?
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Edward Brammlemut - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 00:42:39 EST o5lx/Q/s No.261551 Reply
>>261549

yeah, because wasting an artists time is not considered an issue, but sex work is abhorrent
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Walter Bashgold - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 03:06:35 EST L0ilMoge No.261553 Reply
>>261520

he has a point. how about updating the home page more than every 5 years
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Basil Munkindit - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 20:41:58 EST 2AVxfyzY No.261578 Reply
>>261518
No jt was like weeks before the actual delisting of them... Nice tantrums tho guys.
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Hannah Bupperfuck - Sun, 12 Jan 2020 05:57:07 EST 11VT5lvm No.261582 Reply
>>261578
It's okay apparently /sd/ is just for porn now. Advert link bots, discords, dodgy trojan punting sites, here's where you get porn guys.

I know I've made a LOT of mod reports lately so presumably you guys don't agree that spambots are detrimental to the board but is the lack of spam removal going to threaten the patreon status?
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Fucking Tootstone - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 03:52:41 EST SgCkwQlZ No.261600 Reply
They fucked off. Haha, I'm here all week.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 12:15:34 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261605 Reply
>>261582
turns out mods forgot the reports channel was a thing because everyone moved to discord and reports don't go there
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Ian Hongerhall - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 12:54:16 EST 11VT5lvm No.261607 Reply
>>261605
I'm not sure if this fill me with relief or concern.

Bots are still there though so probably concern.
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Matilda Sicklewetch - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 14:42:35 EST Cte2tKoD No.261608 Reply
>>261605
You should outfit your staff with those vibrators that go off remotely
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William Briblingdale - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 20:41:55 EST 7yStbK85 No.261613 Reply
>>261605
i think that's less of a "the mods forgot" thing and "i poorly implemented a feature" thing
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Doris Clushdock - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 21:17:12 EST lmldqgFZ No.261614 Reply
>>261605
that would explain why it took a while for the china/india futbol and movie spam to be taken care of jesus christ. what a bunch of fucking morons.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 08:50:25 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261618 Reply
>>261615
those boards were useless trash and deleting them made no noticeable impact on metrics in any real capacity
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Archie Breffingman - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:09:56 EST PXIJvUhP No.261620 Reply
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>>261613
Pretty much this.

Those boards were shit anyway
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Shit Bablingford - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:28:51 EST fc5X2JI3 No.261623 Reply
>>261618
I have never once in my life come to this website looking for porn.
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Nell Febberbury - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:08:22 EST Dgf9xCMs No.261625 Reply
>>261605
>>261618
So mods one job is to browse the website and they dont do that?
Fairly apparent to anyone if you look at the boards. But them numbers bro i hope they show how the website is doing and user satisfaction.

Fuck knows this entire board is just for users to vent at eachother
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Nigel Sacklefatch - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 19:48:09 EST fIVGw/YL No.261626 Reply
I'm bot sure if some piece of shit posting cp to /b/ but I'm not going back to find out
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Hannah Shittingwill - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:07:48 EST r3n6jt3W No.261628 Reply
And its still there, proof you and none of your "staff" actually browse

Rather leave that shit up apparently
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Doris Changerson - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:11:32 EST cGBpqq46 No.261629 Reply
Fire more mods, kirt. Everything's just fine! 👍
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Cornelius Cenkinbet - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:42:01 EST c7RolRFi No.261630 Reply
So literal child porn apparently is A-OK nowadays
the fuck Kirt
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Frederick Murdway - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:47:50 EST znUfLur+ No.261631 Reply
>>261618
So Kirt, gonna do anything about the literal CP being spammed rn?
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Eugene Brookway - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:50:58 EST uMDZ05Uy No.261632 Reply
lmao it's still there wtf is wrong with the mods
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Nigel Sacklefatch - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:56:24 EST fIVGw/YL No.261634 Reply
>>261632
It is still there? Mods respond in literal minutes. Did mounties finally seize his servers and now are trying to run some Epstein scheme against weed oligarchs? There is no way mods haven't
Did anyone actually report it or they just close page? Because I didn't report. I just left and cleared cache and so on.
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Cornelius Cenkinbet - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:10:50 EST c7RolRFi No.261639 Reply
>>261634
>mods respond in literal minutes
Dunno what fucking site you're using but it's still fucking there
I've reported it 3 times
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Nigel Sacklefatch - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:13:07 EST fIVGw/YL No.261640 Reply
>>261639
Normally I see threads locked or removed for much less severe reasons in under three minutes when I report for stupid shit. Does someone have to go to IRC and wake them up? Are they all at kirts place jerking each other off on another jenk binge or something?
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Lydia Pockfield - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:18:04 EST 5kjLyNC5 No.261641 Reply
>make three reports
>final reported post deleted
>previous two reported posts still present

I gotta go burn my eyes out and find a better place to shitpost.
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Lillian Demmlehodging - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:27:35 EST wDqmRaFx No.261643 Reply
Hey? So whats the porn rules again.
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Cyril Macklemire - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:31:10 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261644 Reply
>>261625
>>261626
>>261628
>>261629
>>261630
>>261631
>>261632
>>261633
>>261634
>>261639
>>261640
>>261641
idk maybe if you want more mods you should, i don't know, perhaps introduce yourself in the proper venue for such staffing decisions to be made, because let me tell you every person i've asked lately has flat-out refused the role or rapidly shown themselves unable to handle the responsibility with a proper level of restraint so not sure what you want here

>>261627
wow, the one logical post, amazing
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Nicholas Ballertat - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:12:39 EST Td/yEtv0 No.261645 Reply
>>261644
Thats not the commuunitys fault, loads have tried. its just a massive circlejerk (not cat planeted)
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:29:18 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261646 Reply
>>261645
>Thats not the commuunitys fault, loads have tried. its just a massive circlejerk (not cat planeted)

it's never really happened, from my recollection nobody outside of two people in several years have tried, and of those two people whom introduced themselves, one rapidly got into fights with everyone in the room and was booted for some animal cruelty garbage, and the other showed up for all of 30 minutes after introducing themselves with a gigantic paragraph as to why they should be a mod, never said anything else whatsoever, and disappeared.

if you're intimidated by a room full of people that know each other extremely well, that's your problem.

if you can't show that you're capable of interacting with us, and cannot let us get to know you outside of a desire to be handed the keys to the moderation system, then i cannot build the level of trust required to give you a chance

every single new moderator has, thus, been handpicked and approached by myself or a few others, and didn't run away screaming when offered mod status

we have had some extremely shitty situations arise from being too loose with our criteria over the past 15 years, vetting and evaluation is required, that's simply how it is

This post was edited by Kirtaner on 14-01-2020 22:36:22
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Beatrice Nacklenon - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:34:41 EST qEh03NhB No.261647 Reply
>>261646
Unlrss you ever had to go to irc

Dodging the cp then?
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Sidney Sashstone - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:52:11 EST GFOjOFBq No.261649 Reply
>>261646
that room full of people that know each other extremely well shouldn't be the single metric for running a website most of those people have literally nothing to do with anymore, why should it matter if they can interact with your mmo buddies when the issue is if they can interact with 420chan.org, recruiting from your irc has gotten nothing but people who don't use the website, or literal retards like dr worm

serious question when was the last time there was a long term mod who actually regularly just opened this website and visited boards other than /wooo/? 2015?

and you don't want people intimidated to hang out there? don't give people like feem the power to gline at will
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Albert Trotfuck - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:53:55 EST neHnAvkJ No.261650 Reply
kirt is such a fucking liar it's funny
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Nigel Sacklefatch - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:54:08 EST fIVGw/YL No.261651 Reply
>>261644
You want ME to mod? Surely you joke. Aside from fact, I doubt kirt or spardot would ever even consider you have no idea sheer scale of holocaust I would ultimately inflict on userbase eventually. I'd ban so many people on mere suspicion of being retard from the future. and, I eventually Gline spardot and get myself permab&)))))
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:07:24 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261652 Reply
>>261649
>that room full of people that know each other extremely well shouldn't be the single metric for running a website most of those people have literally nothing to do with anymore, why should it matter if they can interact with your mmo buddies when the issue is if they can interact with 420chan.org, recruiting from your irc has gotten nothing but people who don't use the website, or literal retards like dr worm

the bulk of moderation is in irc, reports go there, etc, therefore, you must be there to effectively moderate, and all staff must be available there to communicate with me and other administration as needed, if you cannot wrap your head around these simple concepts then i am sorry

it is our slack, our "skype for business", or whatever [insert real-time company communication platform] you are typically using in your day to day

>serious question when was the last time there was a long term mod who actually regularly just opened this website and visited boards other than /wooo/? 2015?

here's a secret: becoming a moderator almost always results in a slow growth of complete disdain for continued use of the boards. for those that somehow find the will to stick around longer than a year or two, life gets in the way, the majority who stuck around are now married, have careers, have children, etc. most end up resigning, stepping down, or just straight-up disappearing.

>and you don't want people intimidated to hang out there? don't give people like feem the power to gline at will

feem is permabanned and has been for quite some time, friendo - server oper status is forever locked down to myself and a few absolutely trusted others that have never shown a tendency to abuse power, especially with irc now having a population numbering above 3000 users

>>261650

about?

This post was edited by Kirtaner on 14-01-2020 23:10:06
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Sidney Sashstone - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:29:35 EST GFOjOFBq No.261655 Reply
>>261652
how long is quite some time cause there's a thread from september about someone getting glined by him
>>258459

maybe your "skype for business" shouldn't be built in to a back room in your internet clubhouse, which has been filled for years with abusive ops scaring away users, maybe at some point someone competent builds a moderation system into the actual website that people can access without having to talk to the owner's old friends about their daily shits

ps why the fuck would anyone believe you about locking down ops when you gave them back to feem after he deleted the entire server
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Phyllis Billytodge - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:36:25 EST PIKHFjRO No.261656 Reply
>>261652
So patreon is why porn boards are gone, why was that the only option. Maybe if you talked with your userbase about possible major changes and how to help the site it could have been worked out

Nope.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:54:35 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261657 Reply
>>261655
>how long is quite some time cause there's a thread from september about someone getting glined by him

august, so 5 months

>maybe your "skype for business" shouldn't be built in to a back room in your internet clubhouse

okay, so it should be built into what, exactly? are you suggesting we invite random people into this hypothetical place-that-is-not-discord-or-irc for us to vet them and figure out if they're trustworthy, meaning it has to be accessible to the public, just like discord-or-irc? because now it's just the same thing, again! and everything has to be re-engineered around this not-irc system, and in general, chat platform APIs fucking suck. discord is actually absurdly well engineered from an API perspective, but everything is permanently logged including sensitive data, and user connection IPs are not accessible.

>which has been filled for years with abusive ops scaring away users,

no longer the case, and actually this is kinda crazy but irc is now orders of magnitude more active and populous now than it has been in possibly the entire lifetime of the site

>maybe at some point someone competent builds a moderation system into the actual website that people can access without having to talk to the owner's old friends about their daily shits

there's a fully-featured modpanel and mod controls on the boards, but mods need to stay coordinated and accessible on a real-time basis, and moderating is way, way, way faster with the IRC interface, to the point where all mods inevitably choose to use IRC over the other options

>ps why the fuck would anyone believe you about locking down ops when you gave them back to feem after he deleted the entire server

can't give something back when you never took it away in the first place

>>261656
More than just Patreon. The presence of those boards had been an issue for many reasons for years, and I was constantly open about this. Sorry you didn't personally ever see this yourself. They were dead weight, to boot.

This post was edited by Kirtaner on 14-01-2020 23:54:55
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Eugene Brookway - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:03:13 EST uMDZ05Uy No.261658 Reply
>>261646
>>261652
>if you're intimidated by a room full of people that know each other extremely well, that's your problem.
>the bulk of moderation is in irc, reports go there, etc, therefore, you must be there to effectively moderate, and all staff must be available there to communicate with me and other administration as needed, if you cannot wrap your head around these simple concepts then i am sorry
Maybe the fact that you have just shown to be hopelessly incompetant at dealing with the worst thing an imageboard can deal with indicates that these bizarre outdated stipulations are inadequate for modding the site properly.

I'm sorry dude, I don't know what year you're living in, but allowing CP to hang out on one of the most active boards on your website for that long is simply unacceptable. Both larger boards and smaller boards would have fixed that faster. What the fuck is even the use of having such a tight-knit band-of-brothers kumbaya bffs4lyfe mod team if that amazing IRC friendship force is so disconnected from the thing you all supposedly love so much that you'll let it inadvertantly host that shit for that long?

I see that the multiple dedicated spam/virus threads on /sd/ were finally cleaned up after several days, so that's cool, but there's still 4 day old virus spam on /cd/, which seems to be a fairly active board and is thus inexcusable for hosting virus spam for this long.

Results matter dude, and the results of your IRC Treehouse Club is noticably creating a space that allows bots, virus spammers and pedos to thrive. This isn't going to get better by refusing to adapt, this will in all likelihood only get worse.

If all you want to do is host an IRC channel and a Discord then fucking do it, but if you wanna keep this facade going then stop treating it with so much contempt.
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Phineas Fanridge - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:12:51 EST zyJnZaGC No.261659 Reply
>>261657
Last time you were here you killed /kink/ not much of an inbetween.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:20:16 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261661 Reply
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>>261658
clicking this and saying "hey guys there's [thing that should probably be modded]" in one of the main rooms takes next to no effort and actually solves the problem

which is exactly how we were alerted to the cp, someone doing exactly that. isn't technology wonderful?

>If all you want to do is host an IRC channel and a Discord then fucking do it, but if you wanna keep this facade going then stop treating it with so much contempt.

bro if you think i have any contempt here then clearly this conversation isn't going to go anywhere and you're going to just disregard everything i'm saying

in actuality, i've been primarily the only one moderating when i have spare time. we just pulled in a long-time taima.tv admin for the boards. his account was only just set up and he's still learning the ropes.

please reread everything i've stated about why staff need to be vetted and the methods with which they are vetted and why tight communication and trust is required, and if you think you have the chops to make a difference, kindly introduce yourself to us in the proper venue, don't cop an attitude or vanish, and you might find that your preconceived notions don't actually line up with reality
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Phineas Fanridge - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:35:44 EST zyJnZaGC No.261663 Reply
>>261662
/sd/ is for talking about your sexuality

/kink/ is/was different
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:47:05 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261664 Reply
>>261663
it was also changed from /kinky/ in 2012, which is now EIGHT years ago, and was named "Kinky Talk", predominantly a discussion board in intent
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Cornelius Cenkinbet - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:49:57 EST c7RolRFi No.261665 Reply
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>>261661
>clicking this andsaying "hey guys theres thing that should be modded" in one of the main rooms takes next to no effort
Maybe if the mods, I dont know, just browsed the fucking boards and read reports this wouldnt be an issue. So many of the quieter boards are just filled with off topic bullshit and weird bots that stay there for weeks even after getting reported cause "lol who cares its /dino/fo/sagan/whatever". I feel like the mods dont even use the website besides /woo/ which should be a seperate website anyways
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Phineas Fanridge - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:51:34 EST zyJnZaGC No.261666 Reply
>>261664
Its been that long already, damn you havent been around in a while.
Never forget the day you deleted that
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 01:04:53 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261667 Reply
>>261665
>Maybe if the mods, I dont know, just browsed the fucking boards and read reports this wouldnt be an issue

they aren't online or available 24/7/365, they have lives, they are volunteers and we don't have many active mods left, as mentioned i've been having to handle most things lately

>I feel like the mods dont even use the website besides /woo/ which should be a seperate website anyways

funny anecdote, when we merged discord and irc, and expanded discord to cover the rest of the community, some of the /wooo/ people were fuckin pissed and a few taima.tv channel mods quit over it because they didn't want to have to tolerate the broader community or operate by a different set of standards

good riddance

>>261666
i have had a heavy presence here again since last february
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Eugene Brookway - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 01:31:04 EST uMDZ05Uy No.261668 Reply
>>261661
Why do you even have report buttons if it's apparently official policy to ignore anything that doesn't come through IRC Discord?

That's even worse than having "Hide Thread" buttons that don't hide threads.

>>261667
>they aren't online or available 24/7/365, they have lives, they are volunteers
Okay, so then the problem isn't actually using Discord instead of the official report feature for whatever reason, the problem is the mods are either too few or too inattentive.

Which comes back to what we were complaining about, so that tangent about clicking on Discord meant nothing.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 01:40:59 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261669 Reply
>>261668
>Why do you even have report buttons if it's apparently official policy to ignore anything that doesn't come through IRC Discord?
>Which comes back to what we were complaining about, so that tangent about clicking on Discord meant nothing.

the report button dumps the info in an irc channel which is only populated by staff that are currently present and active at the time, whereas popping into irc/discord and highlighting @420chan Mods etc will get someone's attention on their phone or whatever to get online to handle said issue more expeditiously, and the worst case scenario is i get a bunch of text messages from people letting me know something's going on and i handle it

it's about there being multiple tiers of contact, and a lot of us tend to get notifications on our mobile devices when highlit or tagged if the issue is truly that important

This post was edited by Kirtaner on 15-01-2020 01:42:42
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Ebenezer Drussleway - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 01:49:21 EST /imgZUR3 No.261671 Reply
>>261669
Blame game dosent have any winners

This is your website. Granted. But do you want it just for yourself or what?
You know the numbers. Cant chat with them till something serious happens. Like cp on the (2nd) main board. This is staff discussion. Where are the staff? Also since feb last year might as well be 2 weeks ago in chan drama.
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Lydia Fesslepan - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 02:31:50 EST kVCFf4Mm No.261673 Reply
>>261669
So why not have reports go on discord if you guys never even use the irc for its purpose? Im sure you can make a more efficient system man this is like a rube goldberg machine
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Nathaniel Sungershit - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 03:07:38 EST RzpJrMkZ No.261674 Reply
>>261673
calling out shitposters is a bannable offense now, they do not give a shit about what's on the board unless it harms their paydays
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John Crennerbanks - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 03:23:40 EST q2FbTJpt No.261675 Reply
>>261674
>calling out shitposters is a bannable offense now

Well then let it be known I'm calling out all shitposters across the internet.
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Nicholas Picklemeck - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 03:25:32 EST rOzyuji4 No.261676 Reply
>funny anecdote, when we merged discord and irc, and expanded discord to cover the rest of the community, some of the /wooo/ people were fuckin pissed and a few taima.tv channel mods quit over it because they didn't want to have to tolerate the broader community or operate by a different set of standards

You mentioned on Monday when there was the blow up in the discord that Spardot said to either delete the discord or do this fucking IRC to discord shit. Fucking just delete the discord. It's done more harm than good at this point.

Plus the taima mods that did leave left because you basically said that they were worthless and couldn't help mod the discord anymore. People who should have stayed banned for certain reasons were getting the welcome back into the Discord. Great example of this is Future. Future is constantly doing things that are ban worthy, and when he does get the boot, he's welcomed back because he's funny, guys. You have people asking the mod team "Hey why is Future still allowed to be here, didn't you guys ban him?" You only allowing the board mods to do anything with the bans anymore doesn't make sense because you need all the mod help you need for a server of almost 3k. (probably more now)

The discord was better off when it was just wooo. Wooo needs to be it's own thing now. That is what a good chunk of the people in the discord even come on here for anymore.

No disrespect to you at all because in the end, it's your shit to do with, but it's gotten bad.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 05:50:47 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261678 Reply
>>261673
>So why not have reports go on discord

I covered this one earlier. "but everything is permanently logged including sensitive data, and user connection IPs are not accessible" - and there's more low level technical things on this point that I won't get into. Plus, this would not fix the issue of staff availability. Reports going to a "new" location means nothing if there's nobody free to actively watch.

>>261674
>calling out shitposters is a bannable offense now

stay mad i guess

>they do not give a shit about what's on the board unless it harms their paydays

everyone on the mod team decided that this was a great decision, and they're unpaid volunteers, we tend to discuss things in depth before making such decisions but hey i guess stay mad though idk

>>261676
>It's done more harm than good at this point.
[citation needed]

>Plus the taima mods that did leave left because you basically said that they were worthless and couldn't help mod the discord anymore

No, I said they needed to be more mindful of their actions, and if they did place a ban on a user, to use a descriptive ban message else a main staffer would be likely to remove said blank messaged ban. There's also other ways than a server-wide ban. The mute role exists.

>People who should have stayed banned for certain reasons were getting the welcome back into the Discord.

"Should have stayed banned" by whose criteria, and what did those people do? This ties back in to the whole blank ban message thing, by the way.

>Future is constantly doing things that are ban worthy, and when he does get the boot, he's welcomed back because he's funny, guys.

I've yet to see him do anything actually ban worthy. Neither has any other site mod or Taima admin. The only people to show him the door have been green names. Usually when you get into arguments over stupid shit.

>you need all the mod help you need for a server of almost 3k.

3700, and it's been pretty smooth, actually. Thank you for the concern here though. And moderation actions are fine if the reasoning is valid and the actions are properly notarized.

>The discord was better off when it was just wooo.

[citation needed]

>Wooo needs to be it's own thing now. That is what a good chunk of the people in the discord even come on here for anymore.

The discord had less than 1000 users when it was opened up to the rest of the boards. It has grown by close to 3000 users in a matter of months, with most coming here from 420chan, not TaimaTV, etc. I can see the invite code usage.

You guys seem to have your own private discord anyway, so, there you go.
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Frederick Murdway - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:02:20 EST znUfLur+ No.261679 Reply
>>261678
So him posting transphobic bullshit in the wrestling channel isn't ban worthy?
Good to know that's okay, Kirt
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:06:08 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261680 Reply
>>261679
global/permaban worthy? no. he had a two week ban.

nolo king's site ban for the same thing was two weeks, too, but people still act like he's still banned.

in fact he only even rejoined the discord after that because patreon forcejoined him when he was billed for the next month.

buttocks decided to transfer the server to me to expand it, that is what we did, and now it is held to the standards of the boards community. if you're truly upset about this decision and have constructive input, feel free to raise these issues with the rest of @420chan Mod and @420chan Administration

This post was edited by Kirtaner on 15-01-2020 06:14:25
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Frederick Murdway - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:12:33 EST znUfLur+ No.261681 Reply
>>261680
He was not banned for even a fucking day for posting that trash Thursday, do not lie.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:16:15 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261682 Reply
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>>261681
Ah, you're referring to a different time.

Perhaps take this up with GNB then? Because he didn't ban anyone.
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Shitting Trotshit - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:16:47 EST 3vsw1EG4 No.261683 Reply
>>261678
>The discord had less than 1000 users when it was opened up to the rest of the boards.
lmao you're an absolute fucking idiot if you think that's because of the board and not the flood of AEW viewers. Keep pushing that narrative buddy, anything that makes you happy I guess.

you fucked off for a long time, then came back acting like it's all your merit and all you did was the greatest shit ever, but guess what? it's not. it was all buttocks and his hard work that made the discord and taima work because you literally did not give a fuck because people wasn't sucking on your balls. everyone who worked on taima/discord got fucking shit on by you. your retarded pink name friends being higher than every single one of the people that actually made it work goes to show how much a fucking shitter you are. you have zero merit to how big the discord is today, you fucking know it. all you did was make things worse
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:25:09 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261684 Reply
>>261683
>lmao you're an absolute fucking idiot if you think that's because of the board and not the flood of AEW viewers

I can see how many people are joining based on which invite code, you know. And I can see where activity levels are increasing.

>you fucked off for a long time, then came back acting like it's all your merit and all you did was the greatest shit ever, but guess what? it's not. it was all buttocks and his hard work that made the discord and taima work because you literally did not give a fuck because people wasn't sucking on your balls.

I can gladly go and reverse the months of development work that was required to keep TaimaTV from grinding to a halt any time more than 1000 people are in a channel, and to provide a takedown-proof video streaming solution for your pirated wrestling, on top of endless legal issues none of you are ever privy to, if you really have this misguided idea that I "don't do anything" to support your half of the community.

>your retarded pink name friends being higher than every single one of the people that actually made it work

pink names have zero permissions and are an IRC joke role, they are either former staff or have server oper and channel op

>you have zero merit to how big the discord is today, you fucking know it. all you did was make things worse

You are free to leave if this is how you feel.
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early90spants !3JaKKiV9jI - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:44:16 EST 44xxNKP/ No.261685 Reply
>>261683
Chill bro. As one of the people that 'actually made it work' or whatever I can say that Kirtaner has been instrumental in keeping Taima running in addition to buttocks, for the multiple reasons he's mentioned above. I don't really know what issues you have in that regard since all you said was that he "made things worse"...

And who gives a shit about Discord roles?
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Shitting Trotshit - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:45:10 EST 3vsw1EG4 No.261686 Reply
>>261684
>where activity levels are increasing
when AEW became a thing and you decided milking idiots with patreon was a genius idea? Please, you fucked off and left everyone to work things out themselves, stop changing the narrative to fit your perspective. You did nothing.
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Shitting Trotshit - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:47:00 EST 3vsw1EG4 No.261687 Reply
>>261686
it's less about the roles, but more that kirt came over and said "hey uhh the mods from taima are shitters they can't do shit stop modding on discord"
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early90spants !3JaKKiV9jI - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:49:20 EST 44xxNKP/ No.261688 Reply
>>261687
It's a 420chan server. Not a Taima server.
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Shitting Trotshit - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:50:53 EST 3vsw1EG4 No.261689 Reply
>>261688
so? taima mods were the ones keeping things clean, why shit on them?
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:51:30 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261690 Reply
>>261686
TaimaTV has its own invite code, I see exactly how many people join from the tube vs the boards, and the boards have 3 invite codes used in different places for further breakdowns. The vast majority of patrons came from /b/ (i have detailed metrics on this too, much like i have them for everything else), and the rest of your post isn't even worth touching on again because you're simply incorrect and posts like this are the reason people think /wooo/ is full of entitled manchildren that only care about their pirated streams.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:53:33 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261691 Reply
>>261689
They aren't being shit on. They're being instructed to handle things in a particular fashion. If they don't want to do this, that's on them. If there's any real issues, there are multiple staff channels where these problems can be discussed.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 07:03:47 EST 8zTZtNYK No.261693 Reply
>>261692
Would you like to see the statistics in question for yourself? Hit me up sometime.
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 08:39:02 EST 4xtPFVv7 No.261694 Reply
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For what it's worth to the conversation, Kirtaner didn't just bridge the IRC to Discord out of nowhere. Bear with me, this is a bit of a long story, but I'll keep it brief as I can.

A few years ago, one of the /wooo/ taima mods went off the deep end, seemingly out of nowhere. He got very mad with everyone, quit, and then spent the next couple of months DDOS'ing taima.tv, ruining several PPVs for people. Following that, I said we need to have a better system of communication between the board staff and the taima staff. I said we needed to talk things over better. I didn't want to repeat that episode.

It was at that point we embraced Buttock's /wooo/ server that he had already been experimenting with. We started a staff channel and very quickly, the lines of communication were greatly improved. We were working as a team much better than we had been. It allowed the taima staff to be able to direct say things to people like the board mods such as C-Higgy and myself.

Buoyed by that success, amongst the staff, we discussed if we could take that same idea and go one further. There was still a disconnect between the /wooo/ crowd and the staff who were on IRC, including Kirt and Spardot. People wanted more access to the IRC staff without having to use IRC, which to Discord users seemed old and anarchic. So someone threw out "Well what if there was an IRC/Discord bridge? That way we can all communicate pretty easily"

It didn't seem like too controversial an idea. From a staff-centric viewpoint, I thought it was going to mean the staff were going to improve lines of communication. As far as users went, I didn't think it was going to be a big deal since I thought as far as chatrooms went, the users were going to be using the taima.tv chats rather than the Discord ones.

So yeah, in February of 2019, it was put on a "to-do list" that the IRC and Discord be bridged. It was like 6 months later or whenever that actually happened. So Kirt didn't pluck the idea out of nowhere. It had been discussed previously and, in fact, requested. Now, maybe we didn't consider enough viewpoints on that move or foresee the consequences enough, but we didn't go in thinking it'd be as controversial as someone feel it has been. That said, it was an idea discussed openly on a channel that taima staff could see, and there were no major objections that I can remember. I don't recall anyone saying "I think you should really avoid doing that" or "That's going to be a big issue".

Up until this week, I thought the bridge really wasn't that big of a deal. There was one big bump at the start when the IRC and Discord users bumped heads initially, but I thought that had settled down. It wasn't being said to me, or in the staff channels, that the bridge was continuing to cause issues.

The intention of both the Discord, and the subsequent bridging of the IRC/Discord, was to improve communications between staff, and to improve the accessibility of the staff to the users. Long-time /420/ users might remember we used to get regular complaints that "no one uses fucking IRC anymore" and this was a big issue in relation to requesting bans be undone and things like that. I thought opening up the old #420chan channel again, and using it like had been in the early 2010s, would help with that.

So yeah, that's my attempt to add some context to how we got to this point. I'm not trying to say "all complaints about the Discord are now null and void", I'm just trying to display the rationale that went into the idea.
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Nell Hodgewill - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:07:37 EST kl3EGQ7n No.261697 Reply
>>261694
I really appreciate the conciceness of your write-up.
Thanks for the perspective.
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Cornelius Cenkinbet - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:23:02 EST c7RolRFi No.261703 Reply
Yeah all these recent posts just reinforces the fact that /woo/ should be a seperate entity, how do you faggots manage to create so much drama off watching oily men hug each other
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Charles Nussleham - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:49:30 EST egvggedk No.261704 Reply
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>>261703
too many people on /wooo/ can't understand the subtle joys of midget lucha libre and are cursed to live in their anger
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Hugh Blishfield - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:00:52 EST AChteHOh No.261705 Reply
>>261703
There are people on there who actually argue about wrestling and get very mad when you talk negatively about their favorite show
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Alice Nettingkit - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 22:34:03 EST OX1OHl4v No.261706 Reply
>>261678
Being this oppositional to all criticism won't help your case dude
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Reuben Breblinglere - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 22:36:07 EST Cn3A65fQ No.261707 Reply
As a long time user of wooo I apologize for some of our "special" users that don't understand they share the board with others.
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Reuben Breblinglere - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 01:39:17 EST Cn3A65fQ No.261708 Reply
Shocked to see some taima mods are pissed because the discord is now bigger then just wooo. Its such a non issue. The bridge has been fine. #420chanb channel is way way more busy then wooo anyways and only a small portion of woookies go there and the green names who do are not a problem.

Getting mad at kirt for not helping with taima is kinda weird since its literally a thing because of him.

Bringing up patreon for no reason is a cheap way to get a jab at him because for once he asked for some money after losing his job and his dad and getting married and moving if i am correct. Optional donations that nobody has to give. Has nothing to do with AEW or taima or discord.

I also see no evidence of kirt shitting on taims mods or wooo or taking away the hard work people do. To say kirt supports transphobia n shit is insane for a bunch of reasons.

This thread was quite the read. I think everyone is on the same team if they take a step back and breathe.
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Alice Nettingkit - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 03:04:48 EST OX1OHl4v No.261710 Reply
>>261709
that ain't Kurt it's that TNAMecca crackhead who cried LEAVE POKKA ALONE
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Edwin Shakebanks - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 03:11:02 EST c7RolRFi No.261711 Reply
>>261710
Yeah dunno who either of those people are but if /woo/ fags could stop shitting up everywhere besides your gay caniadian containment board thatd be real swell. Dont you fags have other websites to argue about wrestling? I mean i just cant even
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Alice Pocklefield - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 16:19:42 EST 2bj3+Xxg No.261722 Reply
>>261708
They also can’t handle the idea that they can’t ban people because they don’t like them, we deal with fucking Stompy constantly and think he’s fucking annoying as FUCK but /wooo/tubers think DGBOY is as bad as him on their end of things and repeatedly abuse the guy. It’s a culture clash. Most of them don’t even use 420chan and never have, and they can’t handle the idea that another website has to call the shots.
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Polly Cunderkone - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:03:06 EST c6nCEl4a No.261725 Reply
>>261708
I'm just confused how can patreon hold the boards hostage over the donations? Did you have to give up some kind of intellectual property rights to patreon or something? this isn't criticism I'm just curious how this even happens.
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Thomas Fendledire - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:09:58 EST 5e/HYCCx No.261726 Reply
>>261725
He had to get rid of the porn boards. It all comes full circle. Now we back to OPs topic. Bring back bobs and vagene
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William Becklecocke - Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:59:44 EST q2FbTJpt No.261742 Reply
So after reading all that shit my question is, this all seems very disjointed. I get that you got to have IRC to vet people and all and that is the interface for moderating but why not have janitors?

Wouldn't be easy to look at people who post constantly and keep boards alive that would prune shitposting/bots and at least allocate them in like a super report mod fashion and send it off as a bunched deal to a real mod? I mean, I hate IRC for a few reasons,

>The people there used to be trigger happy cunts that would ban you and treat you like a serf if you were new there. Granted you say it has changed.
>I don't have time to sit in a chat room with people talking about stupid shit or waiting for someone to come on there
>Chat room interfaces are clunky and get in the way of normal computer shit, I hate having to check on something constantly.

But then again I post on the following and every time I visit which may be 3-4 times a day I cycle through all the boards I use.
>/benz/ /qq/ /nra/ /vroom/ /st/ /n/ /vg/ /mtv/ /m/ /420/ and /b/

Granted half of those boards are pretty damn slow and I may see a new post every few days but I still cycle through them. But I have no use for IRC and never will use it. Seems like you could pull at least a couple people who actually use 420chan in general to be more of like a janitor. Maybe implement a 5 ban a day deal where only 5 IPs or posts can get banned. I dunno, just throwing shit out there. I see bots and spam way more often than any mods here do save for maybe /mtv/ because of chiggy. Moderation can be done pretty conservatively if it is done under a watchful eye.

>Not asking to be a mod though, fuck that shit. Also, fuck IRC and Discord and any kind of gay ass chatroom.
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William Becklecocke - Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:02:47 EST q2FbTJpt No.261743 Reply
>>261742
Also, people are making out that the moderation here is terrible. Outside of some shit on /b/ here and there and the endless chinabot spam on /n/ I rarely see anything worth banning or removing. Especially now that those/that schizo fuck awegod/unamusementpark/jesssicatandy have all been banned.
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Thomas Fendledire - Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:33:15 EST 5e/HYCCx No.261744 Reply
>>261743
Everyone has a different definition of an ideal image board. Some things that you feel are not ban worthy...make others shit their pants and cry.

I enjoy the lax style of modding on 420chan for the most part.
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Lillian Cenningnotch - Fri, 17 Jan 2020 18:01:52 EST L0ilMoge No.261749 Reply
>>261742

yeah i have prob reported over 50 chinabot posts on the news board
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Lillian Claybanks - Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:20:22 EST fIVGw/YL No.261750 Reply
>>261503
Clearly this is some dissident. Chinabot letting us know, that China has banned Chinese citizens from metalworking because some kids got stabbed.
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Ernest Sunkinhall - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 02:05:23 EST c6nCEl4a No.261760 Reply
>>261683
imagine heckling the owner of a service that you elect to use
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 03:03:05 EST 4xtPFVv7 No.261762 Reply
>>261742
>>261749
>>261750
The problem on /n/ currently isn't so much the lack of moderation (I regularly go to /n/ to clean it up), but the sheer volume of chinabot posts. I ban chinabots and block phrases they use regularly but they're just brute forcing their way in via quantity.

Sometimes they use Chinese IPs, sometimes they switch it and using Mexican ones instead, so I don't know if just outrightly blocking Chinese IPs would even help .
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Simon Fuckingfoot - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 03:15:22 EST q2FbTJpt No.261763 Reply
>>261762
Does Mexico even contribute anything positive to 420chan?

Also, things there are a lot better than before. I still say we filter the phrase USAians and make an iron curtain to China, Russia, and Brazil.And ausfailia
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Thomas Fundlebane - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 04:29:09 EST c7RolRFi No.261764 Reply
>>261763
Hey man i spent like 6 months in Mexico City being a full gringo and actually met some mexicans who knew about 420chan so yeah I'd say mexicans are pretty positive to 420chan. Better then THAT brazilian
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Shitting Bardlock - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 09:50:51 EST OX1OHl4v No.261768 Reply
>>261763
>Does Mexico even contribute anything positive to 420chan?

Does the USA?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:25:33 EST miClPW/k No.261776 Reply
I mean the IRC/Discord bridge was the right idea but obviously those people that are accustomed to being just on TaimaTV or just on the boards, there are some growing pains and adjustment to be had but we just gotta get along and stuff.

>>261763
Lucha libre discussion I guess?
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Walter Blatherhood - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:42:43 EST q2FbTJpt No.261778 Reply
>>261776
So does IRC even exist outside of a moderation channel anymore?
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Walter Blatherhood - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:08:56 EST q2FbTJpt No.261782 Reply
>>261779
Oi, I haven't seen the name bizzel in years. I remember the very brief time I was on IRC that I talked with bizzel and some guy named goggles I think. The rest of everyone else was fags from what I remember though. Good times. Not really, I fucking hate chatroom formats lol
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Walter Haddlechat - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:51:59 EST 11VT5lvm No.261785 Reply
>>261776
I remember a mexican stoner rock band sharing their EP on /m/ and it was pretty good.

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