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Whats the Comic-Fans opinion on the Joker Movie?

- Sun, 01 Dec 2019 18:35:21 EST pZMckt4L No.44203
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I only started reading the Joker-Comics now,
but whats a Batman-Comic-fans opinion on the Joker-movie?

Didn't the Joker appear to be too low IQ somehow? Not like a crazy planning mastermind, but rather a sociopath who is angry because hes a loser who laughs all the time?

It wasn't a bad movie imho, but it was a bad Joker-movie.
Or am I wrong?
James Fundlechark - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 06:15:37 EST SSDM/I5i No.44204 Reply
The comics also have plenty of shitty takes on the Joker, especially in comics taking place outside the main continuity (alt-timelines and shit). We pick and choose our favorite Joker comics and then say "This is the Joker. This is how he should act/behave". Then we get pissed off at any Joker that doesn't perfectly match our idea of him. Folks gotta just roll with the fact that he's a diverse dude.

I hear DC is putting out a new book called The Three Jokers by Geoff Johns (the dude who does all their books that are major canon-adding events) and it supposedly will reveal that there are multiple Jokers and that that's why fans have such diverse opinions on what his personality is, because we've been watching 3 different Jokers and mistakenly thinking they're one dude. Or I could be wrong and The Three Jokers is just a goofy dimension-hopping story where Batman goes to three earths and fights a joker on them all.
Rebecca Bapperbanks - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 06:28:09 EST wbtRO3ei No.44205 Reply
Basically this, interpretations of the joker vary wildly.

The three jokers book is supposedly a follow up to what happened during Final Crisis where Batman sat on the mobius chair and asked who the Joker is. At some point we find out that the answer was that there are three jokers.

I'm curious how they're gonna handle it because it's a concept that's pretty easy to fuck up and/or upset people.
James Fundlechark - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 06:38:47 EST SSDM/I5i No.44206 Reply
In Marvel, they have The Maker, who is Reed Richards from an alt-universe that is now destroyed. I figure that's what the other 2 Jokers are, little assholes who sneakily survived the apocalypse of their timeline. I'm guessing the Joker who is native to that world (New 52) is the one Grant Morrison and Scott Snyder have been writing about. Then one of the others will be the super campy Joker from the really early stuff and who was portrayed in TAS by Hammill. Then the 2nd Joker will be the one that sort of meets in the middle, the 80s/90s era dude.
Rebecca Bapperbanks - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:21:45 EST wbtRO3ei No.44207 Reply
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I think that's kinda the idea.
If the cover is anything to go by I think we've got The Killing Joke Joker, A Death in the Family Joker, and new52 Joker.
Phoebe Lightforth - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 13:29:31 EST tkm5lfon No.44208 Reply
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The Joker movie is a completely different take on the Joker, something that seems more grounded in 'our reality'. No giant vat in an Ace Chemicals factory, no Batman chase, just a dude in clown make-up losing it.

God knows what the Batman looks like in that universe, maybe Bruce Wayne didn't pick up the cowl? Imagine a movie that explores Bruce Wayne's life as a WayneTech CEO and millionaire playboy.
Eliza Lightworth - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 08:04:15 EST wbtRO3ei No.44209 Reply
> Imagine a movie that explores Bruce Wayne's life as a WayneTech CEO and millionaire playboy.

I'm thinking of a mix between Citizen Kane and The Wolf of Wallstreet.
Eliza Lightworth - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 08:11:54 EST wbtRO3ei No.44210 Reply
oh and a light sprinkle of American Psycho (not the murder stuff) depending on how angsty and vain they want to make Bruce.
Lydia Blatherbanks - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 21:37:08 EST 2A6ROJSI No.44211 Reply

Jason todd killing, Iranian Joker - the pop culture antagonist
Killing joke, forcing batman to betray his ideals Joker - Lucifer
Mastermind, finding batman's secret identity, isolating gotham, crime lord d00d - idk the movie one probably.

two out of three ain't bad, but the archetypes are strongest when batman is a defined hero rather than an childish ideal of heroism.

My joker is entropy.
John Mibbertick - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 13:05:17 EST tkm5lfon No.44212 Reply
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Unpopular opinion, probably but I liked this incarnation of the Joker. He was pretty manipulative and focused on wacky hijinks for a guy who looks like a Rastafarian Gorillaz bouncer. Also his Harley Quinn was HOT AF.
Betsy Hunkinnedging - Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:31:28 EST 2A6ROJSI No.44213 Reply
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want to subscribe to your newsletter unpopular opinion
Augustus Cabblewot - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 15:55:15 EST Qzmd1W/5 No.44288 Reply

Joaquin Phoenix "Joker" is an ISTP that wants to be an ENTP, he is not some criminal mastermind he is just Passion of the Christ for I ncel Juggalos. The morons that want a sequel don't realize it would just be three hours of him smearing his shit on the walls of his Arkaham cell.
Shitting Cindlenun - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 02:25:52 EST 8RCA9+A9 No.44291 Reply
I don't remember the scene in the film where joaquin pheonix takes a Meyers-Briggs test
Hedda Daggledale - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:24:28 EST Qzmd1W/5 No.44292 Reply
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They don't diagnose him at all,real mental disorders are not ambiguous. That is one of the many reasons it was such lazy pretentious garbage. He had plot convenient schizophrenia and antisocial traits.
Frederick Brunnercocke - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 21:07:06 EST C4oOvpV/ No.44303 Reply
The problem with Meyers Briggs is that people think it's more than it is. It's a test that gives you broadly descriptive characteristics and describes common traits in people with those sets.

What Augustus said ends up being treated like a clinical or absolute type when actually what he really said is
>he's a measured introvert who wants to be more of an instinctive extrovert
Which isn't a particularly disagreeable statement. It's just that people tend to use the MBT to put people onto boxes rather than measure which part of a series of scales they fall on. And they also forget that people's behaviors also change in different situations. Someone may be one thing at work and another at home and a third thing with friends and something else going out and meeting strangers.

However the problem is people like nice easy neat answers. When you teach people to use a toolset like MBT (and many based on it, and they work when they're used with appropriate training by their intended audience) the first thing you do is say "these are not absolute" "these are not constant" "these are rough guideliness and vary" before you tell someone what they are.

In short MBT isn't actually too bad. The real issue is internet pseuds whacking labels on stuff to feel smart.
Jarvis Somblespear - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 23:31:41 EST 39kjFHCN No.44313 Reply
Introverts are losers that need to get pushed down stairs
clamhead - Fri, 24 Jul 2020 02:31:31 EST 03TQqk2w No.44629 Reply
>Didn't the Joker appear to be too low IQ somehow? Not like a crazy planning mastermind, but rather a sociopath who is angry because hes a loser who laughs all the time?

My opinion is that he will likely develop into a more meticulous, criminal mastermind of a person as his mania grows.
Cedric Sesslewure - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:26:49 EST Qzmd1W/5 No.44636 Reply

Your opinion is wrong, seek professional help before it is too late.
Nigel Gapperwater - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:38:04 EST FlsjwRp/ No.44653 Reply
He's talking about in the film universe, not real life.

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