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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Anybody Box, MMA?

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- Thu, 18 May 2017 00:05:52 EST Z0hXLoav No.94161
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I been considering taking fighting to the next level by joining a boxing gym then later wanting to chase MMA

What are some insightful advice do you fellow fighters have to offer like on diet, work outs, drills, cardio, scheduling, mentality, discipline.

I have experience on fighting but the main things I struggle on is self discipline, diet and I'm concerned about scheduling also due to having a job. What are good ways to combat lack of self discipline and unorganized diet.

What role does weight lifting play also and what kind of weight lifting should I be doing. I have so many questions so please just lay down any advice thanks
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Ian Pocklewell - Tue, 03 Oct 2017 21:33:51 EST aAeGhNNL No.94444 Reply
>>94323

wow your 5 years of amateur weightlifting beats my 2 degrees and 10 years of professional experience dealing with literally hundreds of disc-related patients. keep on keepin on, ape
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10/10 - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 06:45:48 EST 4VflwSaK No.94461 Reply
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I get paid to BOX like a BISON!

Programs/Programming

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- Thu, 24 Aug 2017 23:08:22 EST hPORbZ3R No.94395
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Let's talk about it. Do you do your own? If not, what programs have you tried? Also if you want to share some links, feel free.

I'll start; I'm currently trying to deadlift 500 pounds conventionally. I use straps at very maximal weights. My last max attempt was about 2 months ago and I lifted 445. I used Ed Coan's deadlift template which I'll post here:

http://tsampa.org/training/scripts/coan_phillipi_deadlift/

I had put on a little over 50 pounds onto my deadlift with this program in 10 weeks.

Currently I'm on week 8 of Layne Norton's PH3 program and I've seen big increases in not just my deadlift but also my bench, squat, and overall physique.

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ph3-layne-norton-power-and-hypertrophy-trainer.html

I just did a rep test and the program calculated my estimated 1rm on deadlift should be somewhere around 470 at the moment. Depending on how much I'm able to pull at the completion of the program, I'm either going to continue trying to reach my goal of a 500 pound deadlift, start trying to go for a totally raw 500 pound deadlift (no straps), or possibly branch off into some Olympic lifting.

So that's me, show me what you got, /ana/
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Alice Snodbury - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:07:54 EST zEmquXsI No.94429 Reply
>>94428
He half arsed his troll post and it was enough to move at least one dumb object into motion.
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Polly Gecklehat - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:11:27 EST V73ejJsB No.94430 Reply
>>94429
This board is so slow, I need something to respond to
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All Hallow's Eve - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 23:34:58 EST jqF6g0TY No.94458 Reply
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Just do it- Nike, Goddes of Victory

how much pct

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- Wed, 01 Mar 2017 17:04:18 EST d1SQm7XU No.93978
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Sorry if this one gets posted a lot I couldnt find anything on it..

Looking to start my first dbol only cycle (25mg daily) i've been told I should half these and do one part in the morning and the second at night.. is this correct?

I have enough supply to last me 30 days then ill be taking nolvadex and clomid as part of my PCT for about 4 weeks (as well as fish oil capsules throughout both cycles)

question is, what does of both nolva and clomid should I be looking at to get my body back to normal? i've had a look around and cant get a straight response on this one..

thanks!
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Nicholas Turveystone - Sat, 07 Oct 2017 15:22:05 EST UdISsYNv No.94445 Reply
An oral only cycle? Top kek. So bad for your liver and like 0 gains. Why not inject?
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Martin Pickridge - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:05:04 EST QiL1Zuda No.94452 Reply
You already know oral only isn't advisable but whatever. I wouldn't bother with clomid tbh. 40 nolva first week or two then 20 the others. search UK forums for info on oral only, they're more open to this.
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All Hallow's Eve - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 23:20:20 EST jqF6g0TY No.94455 Reply
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>Would this help, bro?
Chris Hemsworth gushed about the tome, titled True To Form, by Dr. Eric Goodman, writing: 'If you've ever suffered from back pain or want a stronger healthier body then check this book out.'

The post continued: 'I incorporate it into my everyday workouts and daily movements and I've never felt stronger, it's incredible . (Also if you do it next to a helicopter in the beautiful Australian outback it looks and feels even better)

'Dr. Eric Goodman has spent years studying human physiology and movement, and has helped people of all ages and occupations heal and correct lifelong debilitating pain. "

this has more to do with fitness than mental health i think

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- Sun, 15 Oct 2017 00:29:58 EST W4cDUg0E No.94447
File: 1508041798632.jpg -(158390B / 154.68KB, 1024x770) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. this has more to do with fitness than mental health i think
So, I have bipolar II disorder and its gotten to the point where my life is in shambles. Unemployable, mind is mush, etc. The last few days I've been taking klonopin (Dr. prescribed) and with my other meds, because I was hitting a point where I couldn't take the stress anymore. I really feel like I can function in the world like this with this seroquel/klonopin combo The unfortunate part about that, is the addictive nature of klonopin. I'm certainly not trying to get physically addicted, and I have some ideas on how I will be able to medicate myself properly.

Daily, I take celexa and seroquel. The klonopin with the seroquel seemed to stop all paranoid/extreme/self-flaggelating thoughts when taken. The downside I noticed was increased aggressiveness (I was being way rude to people that were on my team, playing badly, in Overwatch)

I plan to use CBD and kratom on days where I am not using any klonpin, which would ideally be very rarely. CBD has been known to potentiate klonopin, so to lower the risk of addiction, lower doses can be used in conjuncrion with CBD.

I know of other herbs and compounds I want to use: Skullcap, Rose Hips, Green Tea, Chammomile, Kava Kava, Lemon Balm... I know there's a ton more

Can anyone suggest any potential tools I could have missed out on?

Any experience reports using these types of herbs/compounds for bipolar hypomania or just general anxiety in the past? Please share!!!

Stop being fat advice for fat lazy fuck

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- Tue, 30 May 2017 00:49:16 EST hXNCrVUe No.94194
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Sup /ana/

I figured 420chan would be the best place to get some advice.

I'm fat. For the first time in my life. I'm uncomfortable, insecure, and embarrassed to be in pictures. Most of my life I was ~150 pounds (6'1) then growing into my adult body I hit 180, and was happy and looked filled out. Now I'm at 220 and I legit feel fucking gross. My weight has been pretty steady for a year or so.

I have an eating problem. I was in a high stress job for a couple years and ate a ton of really fucking awful food. I kind of got lazy, gave up, and ate whatever I want whenever I want (no fast food, no soda, just lots of garbage.)

I'm lazy. I'm looking for a short term solution to cutting calories. I'm actually looking to cheat. I'm curious if there are any weight loss pills that work. Whether they speed up metabolism, curb appetite, I don't care. I have 3 bottles of hydroxycut which I'm 99% sure are bullshit, but I don't know.

Short of amphetamines, are there any legal/illegal pills that work? Any hacks to stop being a fat fuck? I've tried eating less in the past by slowly cutting portions, snacks, replacing meals, etc etc etc and I always suck.
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Albert Pockworth - Tue, 30 May 2017 21:14:48 EST hXNCrVUe No.94199 Reply
>>94196
Oh I plan on making lifestyle changes as well. I work 10+ hour days. I'm sure I have lots of "excuses" like having to drive 3 hours a day, and not having time for meal prep. My first order of business is slowly titrating calories. I want to see relatively fast results. I'm fulling aware of the consequences of "cheating." I know this is a short term solution to a long term problem.

nb. I know I'm being a lazy faggot.
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Hugh Crenningfuck - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:42:04 EST J7R1O7U3 No.94413 Reply
stack DNP and Yohimbine everyday for 4 weeks.
DNP at 150-300mg ED and Yohimbine at 10-20mg ED.
Take the DNP in the morning and the yohimbine preworkout on days you do workout and in the morning with the DNP on days you don't train.

Make sure to do plenty of cardio and that you actually COUNT your calories and eat at a deficit.
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James Chamblehood - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:22:57 EST wuA7e43D No.94431 Reply
>>94195
> Also, I'm willing to make sacrifices to my health.

i.e. "I am interested in short term gains that will not last and will result in me being overweight again in 2 years, and damage my heart to boot"

Had / have a cold

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- Sat, 09 Sep 2017 18:04:09 EST /eIDkfmu No.94416
File: 1504994649136.gif -(1250781B / 1.19MB, 317x223) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Had / have a cold
Been sick the past couple days, still a little sick now.

Should I mow the yard or wait till i'm all the way not sick?
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Edward Blathershaw - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 06:43:09 EST zEmquXsI No.94424 Reply
>>94416
If you have a head cold then you're not super sick. Light exercise is good for you. Going all out will be bad but even getting a little warm doing it will be good.

If you have "below the neck" symptoms don't though. Take it easy if you are sore, have breathing problems etc.

Obviously going to the gym and sneezing on everything is still bad.
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Charles Peppernick - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:16:30 EST Loj+YSMb No.94425 Reply
>>94416
A little exercise is actually good when you're sick as it gets the blood flowing and kicks your immune responses into higher gear. However if you have a fever you should definitely just rest, and even if you don't keep it light. Can't imagine you'll be huffing and puffing if you're just mowing the lawn and it sounds like you've gotten over the worst of it so I'm sure it's fine

Theory...

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- Tue, 12 Sep 2017 23:23:57 EST jf7oW54O No.94419
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So Ive been cutting hard all summer, but there are a few scattered days where I eat a ton. I noticed... that immediately following these days my strength and apparent muscle definition go up and I dont gain any fat from it as the rest of the days im cutting... Can this be called micro bulking? is this plausible?
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Jarvis Lightbury - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 00:53:51 EST jf7oW54O No.94421 Reply
>>94420
Its more than just sustaining man. Im going up
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Hamilton Honeydock - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:01:24 EST V73ejJsB No.94422 Reply
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>>94421
Yes, for the same reasons I mentioned. You can gain mass while losing weight if your protein is high enough and you get your calories right
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Hamilton Honeydock - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:02:24 EST V73ejJsB No.94423 Reply
>>94421
also maintenance refers to your caloric intake.
So if you burn 2000 a day, and eat 2000 a day, you are eating at maintenance

Calishtenics

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- Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:56:22 EST /TrPADrc No.94396
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Guys i am former fat now who is skinny fat at 52 kilos. i want to change that and add some muscle so can you recommend me a long term routine? and any tips for skinny fat thing?
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Phoebe Bruttingletch - Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:52:19 EST SzZCuWIq No.94403 Reply
>>94402
That said if you really were fat and did it then good job. I just think you might have overdone it by a few kilos.
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Ebenezer Sirringson - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 05:44:47 EST UYBgTLLg No.94418 Reply
>>94396
sounds like anorexia to be honest. or you forgot to tell us you're 1.30m

Doug Hepburn or 3x5-8

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- Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:52:06 EST cjM9BsSo No.94372
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I've just been out of work and working out each body part a day (5x a week)with a fair br of volume on top of that swimming 2x a week and boxing circuit 1x.

Now I'm about to be working in construction again,long days lots of moving about so I'm going back to 3 days lifting 1 circuit 1x swimming.

For the lifting I'm thinking just doing this

A/b/a
B/a/b

Workout A
Press from Stands (out of the rack, if you prefer)
Bench Press
Two-hands Curl

B
Squat
ROW
Deadlift

Then 3x8 or this

First 3-4 months:
one set of 5 at 50%
60% x 1
70% x 1
80% x 1
4-10 singles @ 90% (“A Routine”)

My lifts now
Squat 110kg 5 rep max (been up to 120 but I've skipped leg day a lot lately)
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Graham Blythefoot - Thu, 17 Aug 2017 17:58:16 EST QRbgnf6i No.94381 Reply
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>>94380
Hmmm I did it any way today

I got
Squat -117kg x5 it sort of felt easy so I went to 120 and I knew my lower back wouldn't be able to handle it probably due to not squatting much this year.

Bench press 1x4 85kg 1x190kg (so hard at the top of the lift)

Deadlift (my nigga) 162.5x1 155x5 over under hand

Never done ohp but I'm guessing 62.5 1x3 maybe 2-3 push press with 65

What weight should I start with on the program ?


>another question
I want to get strong on the curl but I think I'm going to have to do it with db rather than bb.If somewhat repa should I use ?
I was thinking of just doing 5x5 then 1x5 at the end of each day.

Going to aim for a record to break just for fun and somthing new to do and aim for.

>thanks for replys
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Fuck Songerwell - Sat, 19 Aug 2017 09:24:06 EST 919vO/V0 No.94388 Reply
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>Are you better off doing seated barbell ohp ?

I've always done bb standing and db seated but someone who's been huge before told me I should just do barbell seated as you can lift more weight which means more strength and growth to the shoulders.

You read online that ohp standing is better for the whole body but be honest who cares if it's good for your lower back and legs of you are squatting deadlifting and doing an exercises
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Wesley Hullydock - Wed, 23 Aug 2017 00:17:48 EST 8JlDf1tR No.94393 Reply
>>94388
train each like seperate lifts.

This is the progression tree I make for people
*If at any time they can simply do 5, they do not need to do 3. Minimal goals listed.

ohp x 5
ohp x3 ohp x 5
ohp off pins x5> ohp x3 >ohp x5
ohp off pins x3 >ohp off pins x5 >ohp x3 >ohp x5
seated ohp > ohp off pins x3 >ohp off pins x5 >ohp x3 >ohp x5
seated ohpx3 > seated ohp x5>ohp off pins x3 >ohp off pins x5 >ohp x3 >ohp x5

usually by this time its time to move onto a routine with more periodization and volume, but people stall on OHP really fast on LP, but while we wait for deadlift and squat to start stalling, I do this for OHP and bench.

Steroids

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- Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:42:27 EST Ng3ZBcTF No.94384
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Thinking of running 30mg dbol ed for 4 weeks and 500mg test enanthate a week for 12-15 weeks what can i expect from this in gains side effects etc
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Henry Trotson - Sat, 19 Aug 2017 01:15:31 EST 0DL7sJeJ No.94385 Reply
your muscles will get larger

Lose some belly fat

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- Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:20:48 EST 7/M/5QbQ No.93281
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I'm in my mid-20s. Work in a kitchen. Play video games. Play music. Drink a lot. Do drugs. I've always been tall and skinny. In the past 5 years my gut has slowly grown into a full blown gut. How do I get rid of this bitch. I've always thought about it but hell man. I've never had to work out to maintain a skinny tall dude stature. Louis CK even has a bit about tall skinny dudes walking into parties and getting free pussy. Tall skinny dudes don't give a shit until BOOM. Your gut is huge from all the not caring.

How do I get rid of this bitch? I don't need a sixpack or muscles or anything like that. Not looking to be addicted to working out or going to the gym. I just want to get rid of the gut. What do you suggest?
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Betsy Channersid - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 06:42:25 EST fWxVPKWO No.94320 Reply
>>93281
I don't consume /hooch/ so I dunno how that works.

Soda is the biggest contributor to me being skinnyfat. If I completely cut that, I'll shred off the weight in a month or two. Drinking a 2 liter a day will turn everything from my knees to shoulders into a nice supple layer of dough.

I if drop all junk food and soda, I'll look pretty damn good with very limited muscle mass. The problem is I don't buy the groceries and don't have much say in that regard so I just get what is bought. Which is usually hungryman microwave shit, coca cola, and devil squares. All of which have become nasty as fuck for me to eat.
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Clara Febblefuck - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:13:22 EST 56yO/v+X No.94321 Reply
>>94320

>i dont buy the groceries so its not my fault i drink all the soda and am fat
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DoA - Tue, 15 Aug 2017 09:35:08 EST yz8FE4o5 No.94378 Reply
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Time to MUSCLE UP with meat

Lost my body and struggling to get it back

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- Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:01:50 EST lTbN7xar No.94353
File: 1502049710254.jpg -(142239B / 138.91KB, 409x406) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Lost my body and struggling to get it back
Bear with me here this might be a shit post.

So years ago i was a skinny drug addict, then suddenly something just clicked and i can't explain it. I sorted my shit out and started exercising I still carried over some bad habits and got on the steroids but after my course finished I was able to maintain my new body naturally and life was great.

Skip forwards a couple of years and I've just left a long term relationship which caused me to neglect my body a little bit, also I got sick for a month and ended up loosing a whole load of muscle mass. Now i'm pretty much back to square one and I think i'm starting to get a little chubby on the belly too.

Problem is this time the motivation I had the first time to sort out my body is gone. I just can't seem to force myself to get back into it.

So I ask you for your advice on how to force myself to improve my body and also wanted to ask what keeps you guys going?

Sorry for the /qq/ style post
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Phineas Blundleput - Tue, 08 Aug 2017 15:46:05 EST lTbN7xar No.94368 Reply
Quick update:

Something just clicked in my mind the day after this post, I went to the gym and had a good workout then went again today.
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Phyllis Charringwell - Tue, 08 Aug 2017 16:46:41 EST ZG0IJBlo No.94370 Reply
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>>94368
That's good man. Don't look too much for what other people say is inspiration. Have this nice story though, it's a classic.

Anyway, for me personally, lifting makes me feel good. Feel good in my body and feel good in my mind. It's satisfying in that way that only hard work is. I have other motivations but that's the core of it.

Compound VS Isolation?

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- Sat, 05 Aug 2017 00:45:55 EST Zap40k8j No.94347
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I am a beginner when it comes to weight lifting, I mean properly weight lifting in a serious manner to get bigger. I have been going through my routine for 8 months or so and have seen good gains. However I have been using a split such as;

triceps & chest
biceps & back
rest
legs & abs
rest

equally 5 days and repeat. However I have stared to take notice of compound workouts. Yesterday I did a workout that was soul compound and boy oh boy it has left me aching today lol! I did;

5 sets of 10-12 bench press
5 sets of 10-12 military press
5 sets of 10-12 dead lift
5 sets of 10-12 squats

My goal with the gym is to get bigger, not to become a monster but to become bigger, and I have been even though some muscles such as my biceps and legs have been slower in comparison to my chest or back and shoulders.

My question is this, would it be better to workout only compound sessions, or to mis it up? I was contemplating doing the following below, what do you think?

Day 1 - 20 compound sets
Day 2 - rest
Day 3 - triceps and chest
Day 4 - rest
Day 5 - 20 compound sets
Day 6 - rest
Day 7 - biceps and back

Would this be enough and would it be better than simply doing a split day in day out?
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Priscilla Fanhood - Mon, 07 Aug 2017 21:16:13 EST PxD3sApo No.94361 Reply
>>94357
yeah I know I won't become a monster by mistake lol, I have seen how much it has taken to make the gains I have already in the past 8 months or so.

Protein, I take in around 80-100 grams at the moment. I have read research on high amounts of protein, especially animal protein, that increase the gh1 hormone which can lead to cancer and shit. I don't want to compromise my health, and at around 100 grams I think I am consuming enough right now to get an ok amount of gains.

My diet is pretty good though, I hardly ever drink alcohol anymore, I used to a lot! I use a lot of leafy greens but then again I always have. Chicken, whey isolate, oats, peanut butter, all that good stuff.

I try to focus on the negative of a rep, so for example a bar curl going back down I will count to 4 as I slowly lower the bar. I have read that you should keep the muscle under tension for a good 40-60 seconds each set
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Priscilla Fanhood - Mon, 07 Aug 2017 21:17:34 EST PxD3sApo No.94362 Reply
>>94358
>you do heavy compounds and then finish off with isolations later.

Didn't think about this for some reason, seems like a good idea though, cheers!
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Phyllis Charringwell - Tue, 08 Aug 2017 15:38:24 EST ZG0IJBlo No.94367 Reply
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>>94361
Sounds like you got a good healthy diet going but you don't really have that much muscle built up. Time for the dream bro, it's time to B U L K.

That all sounds good otherwise, don't forget a nice big squeeze at the top of the rep too.

Workout Plan Website

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- Mon, 07 Aug 2017 22:08:30 EST u/yyFLqq No.94363
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Someone posted a thread on /b/ a little while back, and in the thread the OP posted a link to a really complex, free workout system planner. It had exercises for every muscle group. I lost the link. Does anyone know what website I was talking about?
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HonestPT !!CBfASjNL - Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:47:30 EST 0DL7sJeJ No.94364 Reply
I was that guy

fitloop.com

bump this thread if you plan on doing barbell stuff, or just bump it months from now when you grow out of BW training because this board is slow

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