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- Sat, 18 Mar 2017 14:05:02 EST 9zc2QRtm No.93998
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I know roids are a pretty drastic option given the side effects, and there's also HGH (which is apparently expensive as all hell and can have pretty bad side effects too if you aren't careful).

Anything less dramatic that I can do on top of diet and exercise to accelerate results a bit?
Doris Shakeshaw - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:10:00 EST +FUQO/LY No.93999 Reply
Anything that can get your natural testosterone levels up really.
Diet can cover that, as well as good sleep.
Things that are hard to obtain through diet are Vitamin D, Magnesium and zinc. Taking a reasonable amount supplementally can bring up your natural test levels.
Pretty much getting your vitamins/minerals is guaranteed to bring your test levels up. Supplements like Citrulline/arginine and melatonin have been shown to slightly increase HGH during sleep.

That's all I know, really.
Simon Hepperpig - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:24:25 EST 9zc2QRtm No.94000 Reply
Hey, that's something! Thanks, I'll start taking Vitamin D, magnesium, and zinc.
Graham Drommerdock - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:44:20 EST Zsn0d12z No.94075 Reply

Or, just take ZMA and cod liver oil. It's got all that. That way you get all the good shit from the fish oil plus the vit. a and more.
Edward Cinkinkutch - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 19:21:29 EST 5VjZK/to No.94076 Reply
would you want to take these supplements right before working out or after or whenever?
also, I was refreshing my memory reading up on GHB recently and it turns out that it increases the amount of muscle you build up to like 40 mins after dosing
anybody know anything about that? any experiences?
Samuel Binkinchuck - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 00:46:49 EST 7x16C/ow No.94091 Reply

Healthy diet


those usually do the trick
Eugene Blammledale - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 05:05:45 EST zcRB0EdU No.94119 Reply
Roids aren't actually all that drastic, depending on which you do.

300mg of testosterone enanthate per week for 10 weeks will accelerate your gains significantly without any noticeable side effects.

People on forums will tell you you need a base first and that you need like 3 years lifting under your belt before you should even think about steroids etc. etc. etc. It's all bullshit. They work and they work fantastically whenever you take them.

People say if you take them and then don't work out you get all the sides but none of the gains. That's not true either. You obviously don't gain as much as if you'd worked out while on cycle but you gain more than if you'd been working out and not taken any roids.

Don't listen to the meathead idiots on the steroid forums who say you need at least 500mg of test to see any results either.

Try a low dose test cycle yourself and you will be pleased. I promise.
Walter Braffingshit - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:50:05 EST OPzS7diA No.94128 Reply
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To eat, sleep, and do stuff.
Nicholas Blapperfield - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:05:14 EST U4MXDw/t No.94129 Reply

I ran a 3month Rad-140 and GW cycle to help with a busted shoulder from BJJ and by the 4th week I was good to go with just kettlebell for rehab. Also endurance is through the roof.

Having said that I don't do weights per sey so your milage may vary.
Eliza Tootwater - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:10:20 EST 80DT5W2Y No.94133 Reply

Buy Dianabol or Turinabol from your local roid emporium and pop 10-20mg of either per day - 4 weeks on/4 weeks off. You'll get a very respectable and noticably solid body in short order. Not to mention your strength will jump hugely.

Go for D if you have under a 34 inch waist, T otherwise.

Both are real athletic drugs unlike most roids. Both are low on the androgenic scale, so you will not get estro sides at these dosages. And unlike test - which, IMO, is popularily touted because it's dirt cheap and mass pharma are doing a good job promoting the shit - will not give you negative effects like hormone shutdown (D/T don't come close to shutting you down - see medical lit - and you'll rebound within a week -my own hormone panels), baldness, ugly red skin, hair growth, infertility, etc.

People are geeks and will disagree, but the shit is true.

>"You can't build a body on orals!"

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Tell it to every fucker who did prior to the mid 70s. (Protip: aiming for that 70s Arnie look of curved muscle and clear skin? A few hundred MG DECA with D/T cycled in. Worked for me and, yes, 'deca dick' is another internet myth created by geeks on the net.)
Beatrice Bozzlechidge - Fri, 12 May 2017 13:12:38 EST o1A/v+cm No.94155 Reply

meh, I got serious with lifting and went from 180 to 215lbs in 2 years natty.
Got up to 500lb deadlift for 3x. 400somehing squat, etc. I definitely looked like a big guy, my previously baggy jeans became tight, large t-shirts were snug, my traps were huge and I was still pretty vascular. Didn't have abs but my stomach was "flat".

Was happy with my gains, got lots of compliments and then I quit lifting. I dunno if my genetics are just really good or what, but I'm glad I didn't do roids because I know my body can naturally go where I want it to go. It just takes time.

I could probably make the same gains in 1 year or less on roids, but in the grand scheme of things its not a bigdeal. I recommend people lift natty, HARD and SERIOUS for 2-3 years to see if doing roids is even worth it. Unless you're a pro athlete, model or personal trainer and you make income based on your body then its most likely pointless to do roids.
Molly Mottingstock - Mon, 15 May 2017 18:00:39 EST FhJoYnv4 No.94158 Reply
>OP doesnt want roids
>Just take these untested RCs what could possibly go wrong.
Emma Drissleford - Tue, 16 May 2017 10:18:22 EST N58oEOKY No.94159 Reply
  1. Leucine (I think 3g of Leucine jumpstarts muscle building via mtor pathway but not too sure of exact dosage),
  2. Vit D
  3. zinc, Vit C (literally couple of grams of it daily)
  4. Any other vitamins in huge doses (read that book by Bill Starr, overcoming gravity or somesuch)
Sidney Parryspear - Sat, 20 May 2017 11:21:24 EST fbrZCBMp No.94172 Reply

Only Vit D has medical merit. 1 D3 per day will likely benefit many.

Zinc, for instance, is a goddamn joke that has taken the internet by storm. Don't fall prey to oversupplementing heavy metals. Very bad for long term health.

>"But what if I have a zinc deficiency? I have all the markers of one!"

Get a test done. It'll cost less than $100 dollars.

>"I can't afford one!"

But you're going to supplement the 50mg/day, i.e. ten times the commonly recommended intake, of a HEAVY METAL? HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Cyril Himmlefield - Fri, 03 Jul 2020 09:11:53 EST uqv9QBgd No.96364 Reply
Ashwaganda, creatine, protein, vitamins, and good sleep for quick gains without fucking up your body.

Also msm works quite good for recovery

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