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- Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:49:58 EST jabnHk+x No.53658
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I kinda always wanted to learn (drawing/painting), but haven't ever really made the real step to start. Figure if I don't at this point I never will, so I should give it a shot.

But to my point/query, what resource(s)/starting point would you recommend to a complete beginner? I have no idea where to start, what books might suck or be good, etc.
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George Figgleford - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:00:09 EST 72QsENMd No.53660 Reply
im not good at it myself but ive definitely improved by, unironically, just drawing whatever. if you draw a lot and actually put effort toward it youll start to get better and eventually start getting good at it
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Henry Bongerstadge - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 12:37:38 EST XTf+8egs No.53663 Reply
you need something to make marks with and something to make marks on. having eyes and hands that work is also important
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Jack Peddletene - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:43:14 EST J8V7fA2o No.53667 Reply
>>53658

Except for a couple of very small lessons from my older sister twenty something years ago when I was a child I'm completely self taught. You don't need someone to teach you how to draw, you just need to practice drawing objects until the lines you make look like the thing you're trying to draw. I mean, you'll learn your own methods if you want it badly enough, but a lot of things are just basic principles to which conclusions can be made independently of other's influence.

But to top it off I always draw with an ink pen because fuck that whole back and forth bullshit people do with pencils. Basic bitches, I say.
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Hugh Gublingville - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 21:40:15 EST J8V7fA2o No.53669 Reply
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>>53668

Naww man. I mean erasing and redrawing stuff. Fuck that baby back bitchnizshiz
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Cyril Sedgedut - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 20:41:32 EST NYIS5Az9 No.53672 Reply
>>53658
>fundamentals
how to draw/ how to render by scott robertson
drawn to life by walt stanchfield
any anatomy resource, basically google loomis/bridgman/hampton/hogarth + anatomy
and follow whichever method makes the most sense to you. anatomy for sculptors is also good. scott eaton's antatomy course as well if you like videos
>color
alla prima by richard schmid
color and light by james gurney
http://www.huevaluechroma.com/index.php
http://i.imgur.com/yrtPEra.jpg

>inking
rendering in pen and ink by arthur guptil

if this is all too overwhelming and you just want a structured routine to work through,
>https://pastebin.com/iZSMW8r8
if you're willing to spend some money, new masters academy is pretty cheap and has courses that cover pretty much everything a beginner will ever need.
is the beginner's curriculum from a russian art academy

all the mentioned books can be found at a certain generous library.

>how to study this shit (imo)
dont treat the material as something you need to rigidly follow, it's not a rulebook or a recipe, just a means of making complex concepts easier to understand & put into practice; whatever that means to you.
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Rebecca Snodford - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:31:32 EST Fp09K9P7 No.53673 Reply
Try finger painting. You don't have to use your finger.
Penis painting abstract art.
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James Lightville - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 23:08:04 EST pDgCFO6s No.53674 Reply
>>53660
>Smash your head unto to the table and you will eventually have a nice drawing

Anyone out there with actual advice?
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Samuel Bardridge - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 07:25:18 EST J8V7fA2o No.53675 Reply
>>53674

It's not bad advice. Art is essentially a collection of lines. Look at an object, try to draw its lines on a piece of paper, BLAMO you got art. Repeat until desired effects reached.

It's really just as simple as looking at something and trying to draw it. If you can hold a pen or pencil in your hand and move it around then you have everything you need to teach yourself how to draw.
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Polly Moffinglack - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 08:30:32 EST XTf+8egs No.53676 Reply
>>53674
what samuel said. draw something in light pencil. look at it. rub out the bits that aren't right, redraw them. repeat.
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Shitting Doblingfut - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:02:38 EST gR8Yeddk No.53677 Reply
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I personally believe the greatest APEX of AEGIS of artistic talent comes from the great illustrators of the 1940's. Andrew Loomis is a name from the 1940's who wrote several fantastic books that were mostly designed for serious art students.

What I did was I tackled figure drawing because I thought it was the toughest thing to do. Turns out that it is not; the toughest thing to do is to make a 100% original composition with proper perspective and no visual reference.

Anyway... my personal recommendation is Figure Drawing for all it's Worth by Andrew Loomis. If you study hard enough you'll become a champ, kid.

pic is OC drawn from kind of a rarer Empire Strikes Back publicity shot that I do not believe you can find on the internet anymore. Drew it for a girl I liked, threw it in a garbage. I will let you in on a secret my friend: Bob Ross didn't learn to satisfy others visually without him having some lack of direction in his life and existential pain; probably severe depression at some point.
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Shitting Doblingfut - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:11:43 EST gR8Yeddk No.53678 Reply
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Nowadays I like to paint over a canvas, put a strip of painter's tape over it, paint over that, and then peel the painter's tape off.

Good enough for me, y'know? :/
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Hamilton Sidgewill - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 21:21:14 EST WYqsJ24B No.53679 Reply
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>>53658
I'm just drawing different, shapes(starting with cubes and becoming more complex over time) in various orientations to get 3d exercises and other than that I always have a sketchbook with me and just draw people/houses etc.
Learn breaking down objects into basic shapes, and then worry about shading or structures later. Painting is more about watching than the actual painting process itself.

The "Draftsmen"-Podcast on youtube is pretty good, with some solid advice on how to get better, but its mainly for people who want to paint on a professonal level.
At first you learn to draw what you see, then you'll learn the underlying structures and how to detect them(gesture/anatomy/etc.) then you can draw what you want basically.


Also pencil makes you not think and erase a lot, I just sketch/paint with ink so I put more thought into the lines and also learn to draw solid lines all the time.

pic is one of my shitty canvases

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