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Im scared by Vincent Valentine - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:41:12 EST ID:36iOAMST No.4522071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm scared of our first nuclear war. I feel frightened. I'm scared that I and everyone I care about is going to die agonizingly.

Roll Fizzlebeef - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:44:59 EST ID:guzgF7Ck No.4522072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dont want to set the world on fire...
Maggie Simpson - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:47:14 EST ID:dsaotJya No.4522074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This ain't even the closest we've come to a nuke war.

Nigga please.
HamiltonWucklechodge.cbl - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:51:24 EST ID:psI1OP45 No.4522076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
start listening to some crust punk
Dogmeat - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:51:52 EST ID:urRuXS2y No.4522077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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World leaders generally know about "M.A.D" aka mutually assured destruction, don't fret.
Battle Girl Nell - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:52:17 EST ID:lxou/4eO No.4522078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It would only be agonizing if there were only a couple nukes to drop, silly. There's enough to go around now.
JarvisDuckstock.ini - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:52:26 EST ID:R9TB/QmX No.4522079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Don't worry, the missile shield will protect most of us.

Worry if you live in Japan or South Korea.

I doubt China would go as far as nuking the US in response to a North Korean conflict, assuming that's what you're worried about.

A lot of this is just posturing anyway.
Roll Fizzlebeef - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:57:54 EST ID:guzgF7Ck No.4522082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>North Korea issues SHOCK war warning: ‘If a single bullet is fired, we WILL nuke the US’
Dr. Wily - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:02:09 EST ID:TrB/yvdk No.4522085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They won't even know what hit them if they're in the blast zone :)
Roll Fizzlebeef - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:05:40 EST ID:guzgF7Ck No.4522087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
could a nuclear blast be a nice quick way to go though?

Maybe, maybe not.

Its like with a plane crash, you think it could be quick. but those brief seconds getting crushed in twisted flaming steel may be extremely painful
HamiltonWucklechodge.cbl - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:08:42 EST ID:psI1OP45 No.4522089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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but they can't nuke the us, they know it and everyone knows it
what an absolute madman
Dr. Wily - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:09:13 EST ID:TrB/yvdk No.4522090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you're a big guy
Roll Fizzlebeef - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:14:57 EST ID:guzgF7Ck No.4522092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Battle Girl Nell - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:16:40 EST ID:lxou/4eO No.4522094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh wait, this thread is about north korea is making threats to stay relevant again? I take back what I said about there being more than a couple nukes
William Bummerfuck - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:20:02 EST ID:U9D/soU5 No.4522095 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Getting vaporized in less than half a second is a pretty good way to die. I'd sign up for it.
HamiltonWucklechodge.cbl - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:34:43 EST ID:psI1OP45 No.4522098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i tried watching that slideshow, what an absolute piece of shit
you have to press more to read all the text and if you had it paused before that it resumes again, i still looked through all the 62 images but dear god was that horrible
Adam Horowitz - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 17:46:02 EST ID:nh1iydqQ No.4522099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Every human life is valuable. Like a flower.

Having said that, maybe a nuclear war (as terrible as it is) could create this period where the few survivors band together and say never again. There would be safe zones on earth where people of all nationalities try to rebuild society with a new and profound appreciation for human life. With a drastically changed social environment and a capitalism that has restarted, we are looking at a potential golden age and before long this period will be remembered as the golden age of all golden ages.
Biker James - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:18:58 EST ID:RqejBBe+ No.4522103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That cartoon freaks me the fuck out. Looks like someone took my shroom hallucinations and squirted them onto a canvas.
Finnegan Fluffmire - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:43:18 EST ID:Vz+cgys8 No.4522109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm surprised people are taking this so lightly. This is like a real fucking threat to the entire world or even just the entire US. If this escalates, even if NK isn't an issue to us China might be. Or an entirely different country, as it often is with international conflicts like that. This isn't no joke

MAD only works if everyone is rational. If one person, such as NK, is insane about it then they break the whole cycle of no one sending nukes because it's self-destructive. I mean if we push and dominate them enough, they'll have nothing to lose and want to blow shit up just to pay us back before we kill them. It's a delicate situation.

Eh, I was reading an article today about how I think RAND corp released a report saying a bomb delivered by boat to a major port of cali(can't remember the name) could indefinitely close it down, causing a trillion in damage and bring the US into a depression. There are more than one ways to deliver a bomb, it's definitely a possibility that NK could do some real damage to the US. The damage of that would be magnitudes greater than 9/11, if that led us to the isolationist policies we're looking at now imagine what a nuclear bomb would do? America would be reeling for decades after that.
Captain Rixx - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:56:52 EST ID:4IixUjpc No.4522143 Ignore Report Quick Reply

theres also such a simple, basic aspect of this that i dont hear brought up often: fatty kim III has a desire to survive, and maintain his leadership for the entirety of his life if possible. if he pursues any course of action other than retard chimpouts, his grip on the country loosens.
Madame Mérigot - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:06:31 EST ID:ORUfKaXZ No.4522163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Man, if the west coast got nuked, that would be cool.
Shaun Hastings - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:17:30 EST ID:dsDRA5Dc No.4522165 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Next day's papers:

>California nuked, everyone dead. America suddenly 100% less smug. Experts baffled.
Clown Phyllis - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:17:48 EST ID:56ywQGiM No.4522166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck you, the west coast is the best part of the USA. Nuke south-central USA, that area is worthless.
Oz - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:19:38 EST ID:wJoRv5Mg No.4522167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Heh, I chuckled. But then the butt frustration that followed led to me posting. So props.
Madame Mérigot - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:26:38 EST ID:ORUfKaXZ No.4522169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Heh! Heh! Yeah, it'd be like a big old mushroom cloud like KABLISSSHHGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! And then, like, the president'll be all like:

> This act of senseless agression will not stand!

And then then HE'S gonna launch nukes, and those'll be like KABLGGGGGGGHHHHHHHGGHGHH and then the other guys'll shoot more, and more and more and then we'll all be like AAAGGGHHH AGH AGH MY SKIN IS BURNING, and then Metallica'll come on, and they'll be like

> Fire! To begin whipping dance of the dead! DAH NAH DAH NAH DNNNNNNNNN!!! COLOR OUR WORLD BLACKENED!

Madame Mérigot - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:35:29 EST ID:ORUfKaXZ No.4522171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Huh-huh, YES! That ROCKS!

We should, like... try to nuke stuff... Beavis? Go put your butt in the microwave...
Thomas Sollerstone - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:40:10 EST ID:U9D/soU5 No.4522172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Funny, cause I see more petty comments like yours on a daily basis than I do Californian boasting.

Whenever someone talks shit about California, I rack it up to a inferiority complex. There is no reason you can hate and wish death upon 30,000,000+ human beings without being irrational.
Ian Harrywill - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:49:09 EST ID:gemM/NZL No.4522204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There have been a few near-misses of nuclear war and except for the Cuban missile crisis they were all errors. If it wasn't for some Soviet lieutenant who didn't follow orders MAD would have been real. He tried to convince his superiors a US rocket launch was a false early-warning alarm until ground radar confirmed such.

Not so bad for the instantaneous dead, woe to the survivors. To stroke the phobia, paling in comparison to the fear-mongering baby boomers were subjected to as children, (with the whole "duck and cover" mock nuclear holocaust drills) Threads is an old British movie about post-nuclear war life: https://vimeo.com/18781528
Sofia Coppola - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:47:46 EST ID:UEzImIjM No.4522217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The real question is who does Kim Jong Un personally hate the most. Who would he try to fuck as hard as possible right in their face? Is he going to fuck up someone based on personal beef, or is he going to slap a bitch based on proxy policy and economics?

If it's personal, and suicidal, he could literally do anything, but if the nuke or nukes he manages to deploy are based on some kind of real strategy there are a handful of cities he might strike.

A strike against South Korea is the only rational strategy basex decision, since he stands a chance at capturing and holding a short but miserable non-amphibious occupation. Anything requiring an amphibiois deployment, like Japan is doomed from the beginning.

Maybe both options are on the table. Short range strikes to attack and capture, and suicide strikes during the death throes of the toppling regime, as it's occupation implodes into a distended korean peninsula insurgency.
Donald Duck - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:33:37 EST ID:kul6bCVF No.4522232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
While California does have a dense population concentration and a few notable military bases, a great way to cripple an enemy is to starve them. It seems like a strike to the Great Plains would be an equally devastating target.
LillianBemblesuck.bmp - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:45:13 EST ID:Dfr1HOtd No.4522239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yall need some new hobbies, I haven't heard about this and it's not a threat (knock knock) because it never was before. Bruh north Korean tanks are tractors with guns
The Arbiter - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:51:47 EST ID:urRuXS2y No.4522242 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Lol, Like how you showed the drought map. Yea sure 2017 winter saw more than average rain but supercycles will rear their ugly heads soon enough.
Phil Davis - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:52:14 EST ID:+SkGxqy7 No.4522243 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Michigan was on the Soviet's nuke list for more or less the same reason. The Great Lakes are a fucking gigantic reserve of emergency fresh drinking water. Depriving a nation of that through irradiation would also be as devastating as ridding them of their main food supply, if not more.
The Arbiter - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:55:09 EST ID:urRuXS2y No.4522245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If NK actually does pull some shit, it'll be met with overwhelming nternational condemnation that would probably bring the major powers together for once. We're too interconnected within the economy for anyone to ever consider anything so destructive besides a country like NK who cannot even feed it's own people without China's help.
Paul Goldsmith - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:11:32 EST ID:+r3xGHzG No.4522249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh for the days when america was safe and all their missiles were no-dongs, these taepodongs are killing us
Henry Draper - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:24:21 EST ID:hj/8T8Wf No.4522251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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North Korea is basically China's pet Iraq. It's to China's advatage if things get fucked up by North Korea, and it can make a power play to dominate the region.

That was the majn goal with the U.S. invasikn of Iraq. Create a no man's land with the Saddam Hussein auto-destruct sequence, and then spend decades policing the region and skimming bribes.

China want's the same thing. A fuck ton of South Korean brain drain exfiltrating every which way but loose, by letting North Korea off the leash and then helping rescue the region for the next 30 years. South Koreans have three options: Degenerate Japanese (desu desu waifu husbando), Pig Disgusting America (o hai i upgraded ur ram, u want hamburger?) or Chinese Master Race.

Their fate is sealed.
Ninja Boy John - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:36:24 EST ID:LyS3iYCh No.4522256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why so serious?
Mab Splattershit - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:17:18 EST ID:eXusE7b+ No.4522272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You guys don't really get how nukes work huh? It would take thousands of missiles to have any kind of effect on the agricultural viability of the Great Plains, because making a crater doesn't stop a field from working, in fact you would probably need to work up a nice global nuclear winter in order to seriously target agriculture.

A nuke is devastating because it can hit a city where millions of people are congregating, or a strategic military target. The direct blast of a single nuke might destroy one dude's farm, but it can do nothing to affect an entire region or industry especially one as low-tech and decentralized as agriculture.
Basil Sobberfield - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:26:59 EST ID:VWfKXXjC No.4522276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Paul Goldsmith - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:04:20 EST ID:+r3xGHzG No.4522291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you arent considering radiation - an irradiated field is impossible to use for agriculture, ever again on any human timescale, and its not just the blast craters themselves that are irradiated but a large area around them. moreso than that there are bombs intentionally designed to spread maximum radiation damage rather than a large blast wave, specifically to render unusable large areas of land.

but, even with such large-area weapons, it would take a ridiculous amount to shut down agriculture, the great plains is an incredibly vast area, enough radioactive waste would be released into the atmosphere to choke out all life, before the land itself was all rendered unusable. there are specific smaller areas, like californias central valley where targeting more locally centered agriculture is viable but in any large scale conflict its just a very low priority and there are other more important targets - namely, population and manufacturing centers and transport routes and chokepoints, as well as our own military targets.
Dark Queen - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:43:41 EST ID:jO0SiF9R No.4522305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm more scared by the threads on page 0 right now to be honest, I think maybe I'll start hammering my balls both figuratively and literally instead of coming here.
Brian Bowles - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 08:32:29 EST ID:LKNUz002 No.4522319 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If I had a nickel for every time I heard this and it turned out to sadly not be true, I'd be able to ponder their worthlessness in the wild and untamed wasteland, finally free of niggers, jews and all other bad news.

Get on with it already, you indecisive fucks. Some of us want to see the end of the world before we get too old to take part in the urban ape annihilation, delight in the reduction of Israel to nothing but an irradiated man-made sea, and band together to form a new, all-white reborn society among the ruins of the Jew World Order.

I want to get to the destruction of modern society and the resulting short-lived race war when EBT dies as a result in the early days of the collapse, and before age or retarded circumstances take me out of the fun when the festivities have yet to really kick off. In other words, shit or get off the pot already.
Dark Queen - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 08:57:22 EST ID:jO0SiF9R No.4522324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this legit where 4ch... i mean 420chan is at now?
Kristen Johnston - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:37:30 EST ID:Vz+cgys8 No.4522587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>If I had a nickel for every time I heard this and it turned out to sadly not be true
If I had a nickle for every time someone told me something was dangerous. Well I'm alive, aren't I? Boom, incontestable proof that nothing is dangerous.

Just the trolls. I feel like the trolls have their own culture, as trolling starting getting political on other chans it did here too. I guess it makes sense that they'd talk. And I don't know if it's just me but trolling seems like it got more nihilistic lately. There's still plenty of the same shit, but there are also a growing number of people talking about just destroying everything. It's pretty retarded. I guess it's like, when all your wishes come true you're dreams get destroyed. Trump is like the trolls wet dream, there's nowhere to go here but down. There's no one to troll but humanity itself; just end everything.

If anyone's ever read Dostoyevsky's Notes from the Underground, I feel like about ten percent of people today are the underground man. Sick, spiteful, insecure, and self-satisfied.
Joey Tribbiani - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:50:48 EST ID:e/hCWXWQ No.4522592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To me it's soothing to know that this shit really doesn't matter, too bad I don't remember it in normal life.
The Miz - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:35:58 EST ID:WKJhxRqA No.4522618 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>implying it hasn't been this way for over fifteen years
Carmen Ibanez - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:36:53 EST ID:gemM/NZL No.4522640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522085 What's the track on this? Its awesome.
AlbertBrimmlehood.sh - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:34:11 EST ID:fEOWwYLF No.4522668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sure, we hit the restart button but, yeah, let's do the same shit all over again.
Pyramid King Nathaniel - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:10:56 EST ID:Vo5Cmvcw No.4522811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nothing else works. Capitalism is natural. There's nothing stopping you from donating your money to others.
EstherBlevingdore.vbx - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:16:45 EST ID:Rw5KGFCs No.4522816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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don't worry, nuclear weapons aren't real.
Kintaro - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 02:44:27 EST ID:quDyE0V4 No.4522843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Capitalism is private ownership of the means of production instead of worker ownership of the means of production.
It can only exist if there is a state to use force to steal the worker's labor.

Markets and trade may be natural, capitalism is not.
Katherine Pulaski - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 04:04:53 EST ID:AVwCWdcS No.4522856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If there's a nuclear war with survivors we'd probably see a lot more coop and collectivist societies. The trots said the same thing about WW2, but with socialism/communism and not communalism.

>Capitalism is natural
I cannot stress how stupid this statement is. Do you have downs syndrome?
Capitalism isn't "lel trade n shit XDDD"
You're embarrasing me when you spew ig'nan't shit like that.
ElizaTrothood.rdo - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:41:25 EST ID:X4hTzLYU No.4523081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Capitalism isn't "lel trade n shit XDDD"
well then what is it dipshit?
You better not say anything stupid about ownership of the means of production
Phineas Gummlewill - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:59:33 EST ID:1MRs7Vmh No.4523090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Supply and demand. I supply it, and demand you pay what I tell you to.
$5 for a small coffee? Fuck yeah capitalism
Kintaro - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:07:57 EST ID:quDyE0V4 No.4523096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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A good place to start when you know nothing about a subject is wikipedia.
Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production

You can have markets and free enterprise in socialist economies, you can have command capitalist economies.
Trade is natural, a state enforcing rent and theft of worker's labor is not.
Kintaro - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:09:25 EST ID:quDyE0V4 No.4523098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That has nothing to do with capitalism, what you're referring to is the market value of coffee in your location.
Priscilla Gullerstit - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:11:34 EST ID:XXz0D2PM No.4523099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Capitalism is natural.

It's as natural as the cancer that was feudalism it grew out of.

Cartels, corruption and nepotism are also natural results of human behavior.

There are admittedly good arguments for capitalism but the appeal to nature fallacy ain't one of them, you fag.
WalterGarringlock.tmp - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:37:35 EST ID:kjqbkt6d No.4523106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that would be crazy. they tried to create nuclear weapons, but found it was totally impossible. the world leaders all agreed at the end of ww2 to create the idea that nuclear weapons are real, in order to keep the populace frightened and easy to control. that's why we haven't had a major world-consuming war in so long. this is all completely insane, but that's why I like it. it's a conspiracy theory like "we didn't go to the moon" or that a race of nazi super giants live inside the hollow center of the earth.

I'm just picturing this huge-but-secret, truman show production where everybody purports the lie that nuclear weapons are real and some countries have them, some are trying to get them, some have even given their own weapons up, some de facto have them but officially claim not to, etc. everybody agrees to start the first season of "who got da nukez?!" with a legendary face-off between the two world super powers. I guess season one ended with the dissolution of the soviet union. I thought that was kind of lame at first, but I like how it actually lead to a less-stable world. maybe we'll get to see some nuclear terrorism or a limited exchange. they might save that for next season, though. I mean, once the cat is out of the bag...
Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:37:45 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.4523107 Report Quick Reply
What do we know that mark and matthew report two separate trials, luke one, and I've gotten stronger mentally since then but it can turn any piece of hardware.
WalterGarringlock.tmp - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:43:33 EST ID:kjqbkt6d No.4523110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't know you were a christian scientist. Are you keeping up with your crossword puzzles?
Amy Finley - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:04:54 EST ID:OlDzdMQn No.4523134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so they set off an under ground installation somewhere in the middle east and it vamps enough to make some radioactive bombs, they threaten America to back off, it doesn't, they set off the nuke's, America retaliates -how? setting the local population on fire like Hiroshima? They don't have much to retaliate to and they just lost xmillions of people? Next time I say you better work things out all civilized like, there's no room for any hostilities between brothers.
Priscilla Gullerstit - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:15:55 EST ID:XXz0D2PM No.4523139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If nuclear weapons don't exist, then what prevented the US and USSR to go at each other? Soros? The Rothschilds?

Nah, my lil nig, the world is so absurdly bonkers that Humanity actually developed so destructive weapons that the great powers fears going to war against each other.

And considering how much us humans love war ,THAT should scare the brick out of ya.
Cate Archer - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:21:05 EST ID:enFPTW8z No.4523143 Ignore Report Quick Reply

why does this sentence make 0 sense to me?
Lidia Bastianich - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:23:15 EST ID:q3ci0Nt6 No.4523144 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Because his majesty is of a higher order of intelligence than you or I. Can you not see how much he has to struggle to speak in terms in which we might understand?

He is SO smart that it's difficult for him to be as dumb as us.
WalterGarringlock.tmp - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:28:40 EST ID:kjqbkt6d No.4523148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's NJ. Welcome to 420chan.

Yeah I know it's hairbrained. That's what I liked about it. It's like something Vonnegut would include as an aside. Like Kilgore Trout's books.
Anthony Bourdain - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:53:20 EST ID:cp5wHXi3 No.4523163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
porn is the greatest thing to happen to blizzards ad campaign.

I am 100% sure that blizzard funds that shit too
Finnegan Fluffmire - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:59:07 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tycho Brahe - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:06:09 EST ID:v7rdhaM3 No.4523265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ahhh goddam refugees not welcome
Thomas Gold - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:42:15 EST ID:XQ6kH9iy No.4523281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Supply and demand. I supply it, and demand you pay

Err that isn't exactly supply and demand. It's more like a supply of a resource and the demand for that resource. What you're referring to is just value, which in a free market just means you can go somewhere else if you don't want to pay for that $5 coffee. So instead of going to starbucks for coffee, go to mcdonalds.
Alice Tootdock - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:50:23 EST ID:vr/F3Q+B No.4523284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i guess, pussy ass white supremacists never really spoke up until trump came around though
John Bahcall - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:57:02 EST ID:pcD2AowO No.4523289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If N Korea goes nuclear with no real, or minimal provocation...which it could do, because Korean Bobby Hill there ain't right in the head....then China will grumble, but there is no way they would launch at the US over what is fairly obviously a just response. China knows how crazy NK is. And they want that crazy contained and not fucked with. But, if NK does it to themselves...well, no support.

Even with a US first strike...man...our economy is like 60% of their economy or some shit like that. Big price to pay for someone getting rid of a problem for you. Now, if the US did nuke NK, for any reason...the smart move would be immediate offer of reparations for any Chinese killed or who suffered from fallout, as well as a massive, and fucking insane, but doable, diversion of refugees either all to the south, or somewhere NOT-China! China has a big problem with NK folk border hoping. Keep them away, pay some radioactive blood money.... Could work.

In the end, the biggest issue is that nobody wants NK as it stands around now. But the Chinese want a vassal state, and the SK want a single K. Then you have the US, etc.

If at any time all parties could come to a consensus on how to proceed, NK would be "liberated," as fast as possible. They are the biggest pain in the ass on the planet. They just had to build a nuke, and larger and larger missiles. Just fucking idiotic, because, like I said, one player stepping back and saying, "I am out," and this Mexican Standoff turns into a Sicilian Slumber Party.
King Dedede - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:43:39 EST ID:Qj9TdksV No.4523314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> the biggest pain in the ass on the planet
> big problem with NK folk border hopping
> contained and not fucked with
> the Chinese want a vassal state

That's the really fucking strange part. It's not at all clear to me how China benefits from its relationship with North Korea, and their general political and economic alignment. Somewhere, I remember seeing a graph with figures that pointed to North Korea's economy generating something like 5 or 10 billion dollars a year. You can bet that a sizable quantity of that output comes from slave labor through NK's hard labor political re-education prison system.


If China finds North Korea useful, why? How? What is North Korea actually doing for China? It can't be anything normal, if North Korea produces little more than 10 billion dollars of profit each year. That's like every person in the country breaks even at the end of the year, living paycheck to paycheck on NK living standards, and gets a $500 christmas bonus.

How many companies around the world can you think of that out-produce that entire country's economy, with less than ten thousand employees? North Korea has millions of citizens under a single organizational entity, and can't do what thousands of civilian companies do on a yearly basis.

For North Korea to serve China, there must be something more to it than meets the eye, because North Korea doesn't add legitimacy or financial benefits to the equation. If anything the relationship has to be substantially weird, because consider what a love affair they could theoretically have, if they shared technology and human resources in an effort to modernize NK beyond it's tkme capsule 1950's era sensibilities.

That right there should tell you something is crooked as fuck about North Korea's situation, and China's tolerance thereof.
Xane Perosteck - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:53:45 EST ID:kul6bCVF No.4523318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
holy shit that's true the great lakes have like 20% of the fresh water on the planet or something like that, we'd be so fucked.
Smokey Mcbongwater - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:59:56 EST ID:0htr1mT5 No.4523320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why u so scared again? i look forward to those few mins before i die of radation so i can eat my beef jerky-esq flesh from my bones. lol like bar chicken wings
George Herbig - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 23:15:03 EST ID:Vz+cgys8 No.4523323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They just don't want to have to deal with that refugee problem. NK has an enormous population of brainwashed people who probably lack most of the skills required to live in the modern world. If the NK government collapsed or the country just faced war, refugees would probably flood into China as well as S Korea. And that's apparently just not a problem China wants to deal with. Better to let them exist relatively silently as a hermit state.
George Gamow - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 23:24:44 EST ID:sYPuaqyF No.4523326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you fucks ain't getting my water get away from the lakes
Jackie Moore - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:02:57 EST ID:d/EjNQ7+ No.4523352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> refugees would probably flood into China as well as S Korea.

Something tells me that the potential refugee concept isn't something China honestly gives a fuck about. I'm just saying, on paper they say they don't like the looks of it. In practice, they'd likely milk it for all it's worth, and probably ten years later wind up with a thriving former-refugee population worth ten times the former Best Korea kept under its thumb.

Hypothetically, if North Korea jumps the gun, goes full retard and opens up a front across its southern border, it then starts lobbing missiles. Air strikes rip military targets limb from limb. Deserters take to the roads, and in his final moments Kim Jong Un orders the detonation of a nuke against a target, and threatens a suicide detonation if/when his bunker gets breeched. His bunker gets nuked and that end the regime. Military elites retreat into the mountains with limited sjpplies for an insurgency. Commoners pile up at barbed wire checkpoints for refugee status. Rdfugee camps fill up and expand, and military elites spend years harassing targets of opportunity from moutain redoubts as they get stamped out one by one, until none are left and some manage to melt into refugee camps.

Several nuclear craters stay hot and radioactive for decades. But most members of the refugee camps are just normal people and many find their way past the culture shock of repatriation into some citizenry. Some become criminals and others go insane and drink themselves to death in shanty towns that never heal, and produce a vagrant population that lasts as long as the radioactive clean-up.

But so many refugees are eager to resume a normal life, that the exchange of war eventually tips the scales in favor of the trade that evicts North Korea and opens up a whole frontier of expansion, with plenty of healthy activity to occupy millions for years and attract a boon of new asian trade from around the globe. The former North Korean zones will probably take on an Alaskan type of wilderness vibe as they modernize. The nuke craters will become a mezmerizing source of fascination forever after, and videos of the explosions (wherever they happen to strike) will play on repeat in high definition across youtube for the rest of our natural lives.
Gigi Edgley - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 02:34:08 EST ID:TrJbGieW No.4523383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There are a lot of salty North Koreans that will never give over to another way of life. Boatloads of 'em. Numbering in the millions. Opening the gates on a reunification isn't going to just come up roses. Some of this shit would go down like Iwo Jima on steroids.
Gigi Edgley - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 02:36:10 EST ID:TrJbGieW No.4523384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also, what's with these weirdo hand gestures they give? It's like they're trying to crush my balls with psychic mind destruction. Do they know black majick?
Link Shitrider - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 02:39:59 EST ID:kjqbkt6d No.4523385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
eh, give em a pack of cigarettes and a bucket of fried chicken and a jug of wine and see what they think about capitalism
Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 03:47:32 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
same here man
pretty much anything i wouldnt feel at this point really though
crazy new weapon?
guinea pig right here!
Ruin Maniac Cyril - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 03:53:04 EST ID:U3XelWoI No.4523392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's a documentary about rural north korea, wich is pretty cool since we only get to see Pyongyang. JEEEZ I WONDER WHY

Do you think the leaders are convinced that the whole world sees them as a very progressive place?

>There are a lot of salty North Koreans that will never give over to another way of life.

Idk man, People are pretty hungry over there i think you could convince them with some food. Hungry people are never really stable.
Rear Admiral Gregory Quinn - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 04:00:53 EST ID:wp7S8ndF No.4523394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yes but seriously what is up with their hats
Ecco the Dolphin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:42:36 EST ID:mO9gvFeM No.4523432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rank is determined by hat size in Best Korea. Here we can see the dear leader providing advice to some traffic wardens.
Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:49:04 EST ID:psI1OP45 No.4523449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i was ready to lay on my bed and get comfy to watch that documentary but i realized i've already seen it

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