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rich bitch by Shitting Cebberherk - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 23:58:03 EST ID:JXFR8eXi No.4522760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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how much money do you think you´d need to have in order for you to confidently consider yourself a rich person.

I think 2 million. A million dollars is not really enough to even live comfortably in America anymore unless its in a lump sum and you can put it in a bank to make interest. a person making the median salary of 50k a year makes that much in 20 years and that is not good money at all, compared to the cost of living in any major city in the USA.

A person I know tells me 15 dollars an hour is not even decent money and I agree. he instead says 20 dollars an hour is where it begins to be decent. young people dont have a realistic idea of what is a lot of money. its funny I read a comment about how there should be a millenial generation edition of monopoly where all you do is continue to rent instead of ever actually own anything. what a scam.
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Lidia Bastianich - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 00:22:09 EST ID:q3ci0Nt6 No.4522775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This thread is bad. Who cares about being rich? Let's all get together and build a self sufficient commune free from the death throes of a monetary system.

As a reference, if you spend more than $10 a day on food you're basically a wasteful fuck. Nb
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Martín Berasategui - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:12:07 EST ID:AK/cYpGI No.4522812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522775
I've spent time on a commune. And it has its major ups and downs. The worst thing? Its that a lot of the people who want this lifestyle are stilll in that selfish mindest. And thats the worst thing. Complaining, what do you share.

It was something I did when I needed an escape. Ad it was that. But at the same time? I didn't fall in love with the lifestyle. Yes, ideally we can all subsit growing and working with each other. But when some people have bad attitudes or are lazy? That fucks it up.

Sure, we had good folk there. But the worst problems come down to basic human selfishness. People don't want to work hard. And if you do? Good luck gettign taken advantage of. And i loved the community part. That was great, but when everyones arguing thats not the same. Its not there as much.

And yeah, people will say well I settled. And I sure did. Settling was the right answer. As much as I want to live in commune? Its not what you dreamed of. Its full of problems. If I could just smoke weed and chill? That'd be great. But the top folks get to do that, not some regular dude enterting in.

Its that you end up last on the totem pole. And that's such a mess. And yes, there was something great about the escape. But they always want you to buy into something. To act a certain way. And well... maybe I just want to fuck and smoke. It wasn't what I wanted. And I wish it was. I guess thats partially on me.
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Samuel Giffingman - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:36:52 EST ID:+r3xGHzG No.4522824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
psh, like, 50k, im 24 years old, if i come upon that much, it wont take much to earn more and more and ill spend it like a dumb nigga
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Archie Greenfield - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:38:51 EST ID:ayMFEb+B No.4522825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522824
same
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ElizaPullyman.ost - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:45:50 EST ID:36iOAMST No.4522828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Guys, I'm not going to lie. I'm inheriting a little over between 500,000-1,000,000 dollars lump sum, a two story house, and a beach house.

I mean, I plan to get my PhD because the government is giving me grants to continue my education, but if shit hit the fan and I decided to go straight into work, I have a BSc in a hard science and would be earning at the very least 60-70k or higher after 5-10 years on the job, especially if the company paid for me to get an MBA in order to move up.
Now ain't saying she's a gold digger, she ain't messing with no broke n-
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Evan Dunham - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:50:59 EST ID:VWfKXXjC No.4522830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522828
Why not just move to Costa Rica and love in a hot tub full of cocaine for the rest of your life?
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Irwin Shapiro - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 01:52:11 EST ID:HvcLAjR8 No.4522831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What I really want out of life is a neverending supply of teenage ass to pound. So whatever that costs.

Without that, all your fucking money can burn.
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Samuel Giffingman - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 02:02:31 EST ID:+r3xGHzG No.4522834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522828
why the fuck would you go to work for someone else and make 60k like some chump at that point, shit open an enchilada stand hire some mexicans to run it live off the profits, buy up some real estate in the ghetto and lease it to a developer to demolish and build a whole foods and some condos, fuck there are so many things you could do that aren't go sit at work man
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Samuel Giffingman - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 02:05:27 EST ID:+r3xGHzG No.4522835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522828
shit, lend me 60k ill open an enchilada stand for you nb
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Lillian Dangerwill - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 03:25:29 EST ID:ngBmIPwn No.4522848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just enough that you could do what you want in life. But who cares really? Even if I did have two million I wouldn't know what to do with it. I would still buy a yaris because that's the kind of car a bachelor like me needs. A small studio fit for one is good enough, a big house would only make me feel isolated and alone.
After I finally got a job I had all these plans that I was gonna do with my money and it was a pretty exciting time. But after I started saving up my hard earned cash I just couldn't part with it. The truth is, the money made me feel safe and the more I had of it the safer I felt. So I started to cut back. Lived in my apartment until the lease was over then I moved back with my parents. Worked out a deal with them where I pay for utilities and the phone bill and I get to live in my old room and eat home cooked meals everyday. I only eat outside if it's necessary and I only drink coffee at home. It's amazing how these little cutbacks can save you so I just kept it up and i'm happier for it.
My mom thinks it's fine that i'm still living in their house and i'm almost 30. She thinks my real life will start once I get married but jokes on her I already am.I still waste a lot of money on Dakis, figures and video games but that's my hobby and mainly the reason why I get out of bed every morning so who cares.
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Amir Sadollah - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 03:38:19 EST ID:HGwITWea No.4522850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gimme five dolla and you bitch ass, I make me a rich ass pimpin yo booty to prison niggas
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Natima Lang - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 03:41:29 EST ID:ZhdaBDWv No.4522851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
coming from my economic status, anyone who can afford to travel or have some decent vacation time, and isn't concerned about how the bills are gonna be paid. that's how most of my 'entitled' generation thinks.
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Aida Mollenkamp - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 03:48:14 EST ID:vr/F3Q+B No.4522854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lmao at OP and his antiquated concepts of stability
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Sansa Stark - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 08:45:52 EST ID:HZqVzWUd No.4522893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>A million dollars is not really enough to even live comfortably in America anymore

What???
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Violet Churchgrab - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:39:12 EST ID:e/hCWXWQ No.4522913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522760
The thing is, even if you buy a house you have to pay fees, here ít's usually about 300 euros per month which is close to rent of a cheap ass place.
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Violet Churchgrab - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:44:40 EST ID:e/hCWXWQ No.4522916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522828
Be wary of those taxes.
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Violet Churchgrab - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:46:52 EST ID:e/hCWXWQ No.4522917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522848
>I moved back with my parents
I really don't understand people who can do this or you have the coolest parents. My parents are pretty normal but fucking boring and bossy af and they get pissed when I don't do what they say and then I get fucking pissed to them telling me what to fucking do, can't stand that shit.
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Violet Churchgrab - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:48:25 EST ID:e/hCWXWQ No.4522919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have lived the last 5 years on 1k per month welfare and over half goes to bills and rent, getting 3k a month would feel like a king to me.
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William de Sitter - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:17:25 EST ID:R9TB/QmX No.4522934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Only a tiny fraction of people in the USA are wealthy enough to be truly free. The rest are slaves at best.
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Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovallis - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:51:53 EST ID:FQl5Qu3C No.4522943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Rich people.
Well, let me put it into perspective for you.
>Top 1% globally; ~$32,000
>Top 1% USA; ~$250,000
So pretty much every US citizen is rich, just not USA rich.
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James Gammlestork - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:09:29 EST ID:j0T2Mdmu No.4522951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522831
>What I really want out of life is a neverending supply of teenage ass to pound. So whatever that costs.

this guy knows what matters in life. my man
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Finnegan Fluffmire - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:12:40 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4522943
What the fuck are you talking about, $250k p/year is middle class.
Top 1% is hundreds of millions per year, and top 1% of that is billions per year.
That's not in any way tied to America, see list.
Means of Production moves freely in the world, Capital itself moves freely in the world, it is the Workers who are trapped, owned by the soil like serfs in the middle ages.
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Lester the Unlikely - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:16:18 EST ID:kdy86lPU No.4523071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522943
>So pretty much every US citizen is rich
speak for yourself mang

>>4523069
man you are just completely fucking wrong, like not even in the ballpark i think the top 1% is millionaires but like making 1.5mil from your plumbing business is a whole different world from making hundreds of millions of dollars
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Finnegan Fluffmire - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:31:41 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4523071
The bottom of the Top 1% is $450k per year.
That's the minimum yearly income you can make and qualify for being in the top 1%.
It goes up from there.
And you don't pay anything in on income over $250k, so when you pay the top tax bracket of 39% absolute max in the US, it's only the first $250k you make that is subject to this.
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Furel - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:42:06 EST ID:pI2uD7YK No.4523082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522760

The most I made consistently was $30 an hour with the occasional $300-$1000 weekend extra gigs. That was when I was a hard working, 16 hours a day, exhausted determined yuppie.

And I tell ya what, I was still poor as fuck. To make that kinda money I lived in an expensive city, was required to have nice up to date clothes and haircuts, drive far in a good looking car, and go to fancy business lunches.

I'm lower class again and am just as poor, but I have more free time now and less stuff.

Except for the few, were all poor if you look at it with the right mindset. What's the point of making that much if you're a slave to the machine?
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Hatsu Hioki - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:47:26 EST ID:pl0Q07yg No.4523086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522831
This is the only reason I'm not too completely suicidal about the food industry. Being even half attractive in this shit fest you'll generally be at least 2:1 with hot girls.
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Hidehiko Yoshida - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:47:38 EST ID:zuuZkTM1 No.4523087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522831
This is the only reason I'm not too completely suicidal about the food industry. Being even half attractive in this shit fest you'll generally be at least 2:1 with hot girls.
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Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovallis - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:04:55 EST ID:FQl5Qu3C No.4523095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523071
>Speak for yourself, mang.
Well, I stand by my case. Every US citizen is rich. Even the citizens who are homeless can live a comfortable life and stay clean and fed. The poor all get free food. I mean, if you're a poor person born in the USA, you've got it better than a middle-class person born anywhere outside of the USA/Canada/Europe, which is like 5 billion people.

Like I said, you're not USA rich. You got your food, you got your education, you got everything, but you didn't get the big house and the nice car and the high-quality drugs and filet mignon, so you don't feel rich, but truth be told, having access to water, having free-food go to poor people, having medicine for poor-people, these are all things exclusive to the USA/Canada/Europe, for the most part. That's the stuff of a rich nation.

>>4523069
>Top 1% is hundreds of millions per year, and top 1% of that is billions per year.
LOL
http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/income-rank/
Oh I'm so sorry I was mistaken, in order to be top 1% you actually need 450,000, not 250,000 like I said earlier.

But again, what's it mean to be in the top 1% of the world?
Oh that's right, $32,400.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050615/are-you-top-one-percent-world.asp
You know, the average 50-hour salary of a minimum-wage worker, pretty much.

>see list.
>lists a bunch of billionaires
Point = proven.
Game = on point.
Good job, son. I'm so proud of you.
(honey, our son is a fucking moron).

>Means of Production moves freely in the world, Capital itself moves freely in the world, it is the Workers who are trapped, owned by the soil like serfs in the middle ages.
LOL.
You're the next Karl Marx, brother!
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William Herschel - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:08:14 EST ID:sYPuaqyF No.4523097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523087
what the fuck are you talking about?
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Sansa Stark - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:24:37 EST ID:HZqVzWUd No.4523101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523095

>You got your food, you got your education,

Plenty of people in the US are malnourished and barely educated, to say nothing of being able to afford higher education

>having access to water, having free-food go to poor people, having medicine for poor-people

All things that people in the US don't universally have by any means. Remember Flint? Remember not having universal healthcare like every other first world country and plenty of non-first world countries?
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Kintaro - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:28:15 EST ID:quDyE0V4 No.4523102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4523095
Yeah, if you're not starving, if you receive any sort of education, if you live in an apartment or house, if you might be able to get some level of medical care at a free clinic, you're not really poor.

Also, the best way to help the poor is to cut social programs that provide job training, education, or healthcare, and give tax breaks to job creators and corporations.
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Hatsu Hioki - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:41:45 EST ID:pl0Q07yg No.4523108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523097
I'm saying I work in food and I wanna die but I'm surrounded by hot young girls and a bunch of dumb ugly guys so idk do math guy.
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Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovallis - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:41:57 EST ID:aXd5DOpf No.4523109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523097
I'm saying I work in food and I wanna die but I'm surrounded by hot young girls and a bunch of dumb ugly guys so idk do math guy.
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Koumei Nakamura - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:54:10 EST ID:jqndX6ZX No.4523113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Probably five million dollars or more, even that can go fast depending were you live and if you spend a bunch on needless crap.
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Phineas Gummlewill - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:13:01 EST ID:1MRs7Vmh No.4523136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523095
>every us citizen is rich
I get a total of $133.52 per month. That's not even sweatshop money these days. How the fuck does that make me rich?
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Anthony Bourdain - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:20:42 EST ID:cp5wHXi3 No.4523142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522760
I define rich as a quality of life.

So you make 2 million dollars, but literally threw your life away for it and are bound to the means that you got the money through.

I make a little over 6 figures, and I work about 30 hours a week, technically.
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Finnegan Fluffmire - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:48:44 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My point is that there should be NO BILLIONAIRES AT ALL.
Then, no one would be any kind of poor, the world over.
Honestly, 5 yachts isn't enough for you? You greedy fucks?
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Finnegan Fluffmire - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:51:59 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522760
You know what, though, OP, as evil as owning land for the sole purpose of forcing others to pay rent to use it is, the renter is better off in many ways, as by most state laws, in the US anyway, the renter is not on the hook for any repairs that he did not cause by damaging something, so if the toilet wears out, or the shower head blows off through no fault of your own, or the septic tank fills-- the Owner has to deal with that cost in repairs.

It's one of the reasons so many people let their house loans default. Houses and land are so overpriced that it's often as high or higher to pay the loans back as it is to just pay rent, and not have to get yet more loans to fix the roof or the siding or replace flood damaged walls.
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Aubrey Cottle - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 19:00:22 EST ID:GQZliOop No.4523168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523136
Lets not even get into cost of living disparity. Most cost of living calculations don't do purchasing power parity very well. I had a friend in Serbia whose parents had about as much income as I did back in 2004 who had more reliable internet than me and a house. They were poor by Serbian standards and lived in buttfuck nowhere.

Real incomes in the western world haven't changed much in years. But the rich get richer. Prices go up and wages go up just as much and the increased productivity all goes to a few people regardless of who is actually more productive. A handful of ceos are genuinely innovative or clever but even then a lot of them just did a thing better and faster than another guy. Some of them are just shit. Some of them just asset strip businesses and actually reduce the wealth, productivity and total welfare of the economy.

>>4523155
So in short I agree. Incentive my arse. If you're that rich your so deep into diminishing returns on that cash you're likely more interested in the power, status, influence or maybe even changing the world.
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Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:02:42 EST ID:XSznHzP1 No.4523202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol at the idea of all americans being rich by default

theres a different between quality of life and the actual amount of wealth that you OWN and get a say in what you do with, not just being able to go to soup kitchens and showering

most americans under 30 are not independent at all in major cities. they are crammed in tiny apartments or houses with multiple roommates. that is shit that i cant see myself living in as a self respecting adult.
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Pherson O'Rallie - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:06:16 EST ID:quDyE0V4 No.4523205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4523159
>if the toilet wears out, or the shower head blows off through no fault of your own, or the septic tank fills-- the Owner has to deal with that cost in repairs.
You can cover a lot of the same services via home warranty.
While most people leasing property are required to provide services such as maintaining the property, maintaining property is not intrinsic to extracting rent.

Rent is undesirable for economies.
It allocates resources from more efficient sectors of the economy to less efficient sectors.
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Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:08:44 EST ID:XSznHzP1 No.4523208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh noes an owner who doesnt lift a finger to collect money has to pay a portion of that money so that he can continue to raise rent and collect money for doing nothing
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Ted Allen - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:09:39 EST ID:kdy86lPU No.4523210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523077
jesus christ you retard, you are probably gone and will never read this but your understanding of the tax system is completely ass fucking backwards you moron. you pay the % of your bracket on income over a certain level, the lower % of the lower bracket for income below a certain level. if you make 415k you pay 39% on all your income over 415k, and less than that on the rest like 133k out of that base 415k

i have a masters degree in financial mathematics and just need to point out how wrong you are
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Ted Allen - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:10:46 EST ID:kdy86lPU No.4523211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523205
thats not what rent seeking behavior is at all god dammit

fucking 420chan with your horrible understanding of economic principles
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John Besh - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:12:07 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4523205
Home Warranty is just an Insurance Model, it's a monthly premium paid whether something breaks or not, and ON TOP of Home Owner's Insurance, which doesn't cover the infrastructure/appliances.
But, you know, add that ~$200 per month to a ~$1200 home loan payment, and it's cheaper, at least in cities with less than a million people in them, to rent a house for ~$1000.
Which you can then get Renter's Insurance on to protect your shit, which is nowhere near as expensive, and all the big-ticket shit is on the Lessor.

But yes, Capitalism is highly inefficient, by design.
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John Besh - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:16:59 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523210
Yeah, I meant to put in that what I am talking about specifically is FICA.
FICA taxes work like that.
Capital Gains are of course taxed at a much lower rate than income taxes.
My mistake (by omission)
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George Gamow - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:20:43 EST ID:sYPuaqyF No.4523226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4523212
looking at it through the perspective of the text at the bottom of the photo capitalism is the greatest proponent to novelty

novelty is my jam

I guess I'm a capitalist now
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Ted Allen - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:21:43 EST ID:kdy86lPU No.4523228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523221
dude FICA's like 3.5% it has nothing to do with the 39% tax bracket and all income over 415k. please stop pretending you know what youre talking about
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John Besh - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:26:39 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4523226
Novelty? What, new, exotic stuff? Why would that need to be the underpinning of the economy for you to have it?

I mean, you could still get whoopie cushins and groucho glasses and other novelty items, or things from foreign lands.
Those aren't consumer goods, really, like Plastic Forks and disposable diapers, although with automation, we could keep that too, if we wanted.

It's just that growth for the sake of growth, as a metric for success, is the ideology of a cancer cell.

That's not Novelty in the McKenna sense, Rogan.
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Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:30:43 EST ID:XSznHzP1 No.4523232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522893

lets say a person rents a 1 bedroom aparment in a major american city. idk where you are from, but this list I found is fairly accurate.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/81296/average-cost-one-bedroom-apartments-50-major-us-cities

I consider living comfortably being an independent adult, but ideally not even living in an apartment...living in a house would be better. not having shit like having to worry about my footsteps, smoking weed, or playing loud music and fucking loudly or else getting evicted. raising a family in an apartment would be miserable. not having to go to a washer dryer when im an old man. not having to worry about rent going up yearly by 5 percent not even counting the cost of food and utilities going up.

so considering all that, paying 1500 a month for 12 months means 18000 a year. that means. living in just a tiny apartment. for decades. will eat up a large chunk of that million. it really doesnt go that far especially considering most people would want to do fun things like travel and go out and get cars or whatever if they even had that much to begin with.
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John Besh - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:32:14 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523228
Rich people make most of their income through Capital Gains, we just don't call it income as such, and it is taxed very differently, and that's where FICA comes in, or rather doesn't.
Rich people get a ton of free money.
This is why they are always pushing "Fair Tax" plans that put all the emphasis on the Sales Tax, because then even more of the burden is on the poor, as these are always Flat Rates.
Anyway, it was confusing of me to use the picture that way, I was mocking your next predicted point as opposed to illustrating my own.
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John Besh - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:34:07 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523232
>not having shit like having to worry about my footsteps, smoking weed, or playing loud music and fucking loudly or else getting evicted

What ARE Home Owner's Associations? Many of them even tell you if you can have a garden or paint your house a color that clashes with the rest of the neighborhood's houses.
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Nicolas Appert - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:34:10 EST ID:cp5wHXi3 No.4523239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523232
you can get a 5bdrm house in TX 20 miles from Austin for 550/mo

now, to find work in that place is another thing
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John Besh - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:34:53 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523239
20 miles from Austin?
You would work in Austin. Those are called "Bedroom Communities"
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Nicolas Appert - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:35:42 EST ID:cp5wHXi3 No.4523241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522943
>factoring in cost of living

phew
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Shitty McCockerson - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:37:59 EST ID:0GkgpfDa No.4523244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523241

But not factoring the public debt which everyone has from birth so it's more like -400 dollars per each person
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Nicolas Appert - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:40:21 EST ID:cp5wHXi3 No.4523248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523244
because that is completely relevant
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John Besh - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:46:50 EST ID:JSlsdcFU No.4523254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523244
The debt which comes from tax cuts and expenditures of foreign military adventures.

Perhaps raising taxes and ending military adventures might be more sane than cutting social spending and drug testing welfare recipients and letting acres of houses fall in rather than converting them to low- and medium-income housing, et c et c
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JarvisMunderway.sgml - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:02:56 EST ID:HZqVzWUd No.4523263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523244

lol what

That has no impact on your life or financial matters whatsoever
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Walter Adams - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:49:17 EST ID:yffGb7zE No.4523283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4522760
A BILLION DOLLARS
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Marc Summers - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:55:40 EST ID:sVlGi/lg No.4523319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
$91 million dollars. That's what a ton of hundred dollar bills is worth.
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Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 23:26:17 EST ID:XSznHzP1 No.4523327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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no comment
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Link Shitrider - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 23:47:00 EST ID:kjqbkt6d No.4523334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
5m invested at 2% interest gives you 100k every year forever
I'd say that's enough to live on
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Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:08:56 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523334
and that is some shittastic investing!
if youre only making 2% a year youre a fucking idiot
why not just do what the bank you gave that money is doing?
theyre pulling in a fuck load more than 2%
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Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:11:36 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523338
oh right not really possible for someone with a measly $5,000,000 engage in fractional reserve lending
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Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:14:16 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523339
maybe invest in derivatives!...... oh darn you dont have enough capital to sway market value and guarantee your bets
....nuts!
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Link Shitrider - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:15:31 EST ID:kjqbkt6d No.4523341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523338
yeah. that is extremely low. I was just putting that out there as an example. 2% is doing absolutely no work and having a bank that doesn't give a fuck, and you'd still have 100k every year, for free. if you spent your time working on your investments instead of having to hold down a job, the sky is the limit. all you need is a few million to start with. the rich get waaaaay richer.
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Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:16:03 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523340
theres always high frequency trading
whats that you cant afford to place an automated server mere feet from the trading floor?
get a fucking job you hippy
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Rocket Executive Cornelius - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:42:24 EST ID:2NFySYge No.4523350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Studies show there's little improvement in quality of life after income exceeds $80k

I make less than $20k after taxes, rent, food, and healthcare. I honestly don't see how life could be much better with more money.

I mean, it'd be nice and I could buy more shit and more fun but I think happiness has little to do with money.

Look at the Mexican immigrants in America who do hard work all day then go home and cook out and hang out with all their Mexican buds and drink beer and eat and hang out. Seems fine to me.

Throughout history, 99% of us have been dirt poor. We in 21st century America have it a million times better than any time before. So just chill out and enjoy yer life, fag.
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Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 00:59:57 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523350
fuck that
i totally agree with you man
i would be perfectly ok with 20k a year
(i would probably produce far more in value but for myself rather than a quick flip)
that doest not however mean that i am in any way even remotely ok with anybody taking advantage of that and trying to fucking own me due to my perceived kindness (fucking weakness is what its seen as)
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Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:06:27 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523351
tl;dr
just because you are ok with taking onle 1/3 of what you produce does not fucking mean someone else gets the other 2/3 to use as leverage against you
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Sudden McLovin - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:08:09 EST ID:VKVTV1lL No.4523354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523353
which is exactly what will fucking happen if you dont claim it (apparently so)
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Kintaro - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:21:31 EST ID:kvuk08dX No.4523357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4523350
> I honestly don't see how life could be much better with more money.
travel and paying for your parents to retire? that's what I'd do if I had all my basics sorted out, a house, a car, and good computer, but had a shit ton of extra money left over. you're right though after a point it becomes pointless. you get these hyper rich dudes seeking greater and great luxuries cause they're desensitized to luxury itself. it's like an opiate addiction where everybody around wastes away and gets poorer instead of them, but they still steal all their shit so they can buy more fentanyl patches to shove up their ass.

>others had it worse than you in the past so nobody should be allowed to be unhappy today
yeah okay


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