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WARNING by Collector Alice - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:08:45 EST ID:dsaotJya No.4700379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Pentagon announces 2,000% increase in Russia trolls since Friday

If you see a troll; do not feed it.
I repeat.
If you see a troll; do not feed it.
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Guitarist Priscilla - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:11:12 EST ID:xEFCFJa0 No.4700381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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OP is a Russian Troll! Get Him!
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Gina Carano - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:11:13 EST ID:GaraCjmf No.4700382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sorry /pol is gone dude
idk wtf a pentagen is, nb
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Gina Carano - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:12:06 EST ID:GaraCjmf No.4700383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700382
wrong thread nb
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Vito - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:14:45 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4700384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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beep boop
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Philippe Rochat - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:15:22 EST ID:ON89zrJ8 No.4700385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On a side note I don't think there is a satisfactory definition for or a sufficient understanding of 'troll'. In mainstream IRL usage, it just appears to be interchangeable with 'someone whose views I don't like', like when Ajit Pai labelled online critics as 'trolls'. That's really unhelpful and indicates a total lack of interest in responding to genuine points.

But there are a lot of these pro-Russia shitposters online too but they are, despite their low quality discourse, probably serious about defending Russia's interests on the online forum. In my view a 'troll' is just not unlike an online version of a prankster, with no actual serious motive behind their actions.
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Robert Baratheon - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:16:14 EST ID:c0VeVYHp No.4700386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lol, those russian trolls must br all those voices that disagree with pentagon
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Vito - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:18:06 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4700387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700385
You're not wrong but there's fuck all you can do about it. It's like "Hacker", that originally had no negative connotations. But the media gave it one when they got scared in the 80s and were pumping out propaganda about it.
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BasilCrasslehall.art - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:21:06 EST ID:OZ/kQdOh No.4700388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Russian trolls? Shit, the Mexican Ogre epidemic is making themselves bad enough as it is. And don't get me started on those canadian Fairy faggots cartwheeling around all over the place. They're everywhere, like they even own this damn site now, fuck
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Battle Girl James - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:22:18 EST ID:YcBMm7/+ No.4700389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why is there so many fucking pol threads today? this is like the 6th thread posted this hour alone. they have been deleted and there is even one locked on the front page with a note saying "use the news board" and you still post this shit
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:22:27 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.4700390 Report Quick Reply
>>4700389
The chronicles of riddick assault on dark athena if your computer can run TF2 sub-par at best, but as a general note to everyone arguing that allowing segregation would increase overall happiness, let's remember the billions in circulation OUTSIDE of our country are very much PRO-military. Every watch a football game.
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Battle Girl James - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:24:30 EST ID:YcBMm7/+ No.4700392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700390
god damn it nj, not you too
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Thiago Silva - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:28:14 EST ID:A6teBkCN No.4700404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>believing the Pentagon on anything.

They're liars spying on lying spies because spy
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Jim Cornette - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:43:17 EST ID:Unz5+Ums No.4700417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700390

I keep forgetting that I never played Assault on Dark Athena. Thanks for reminding me, Netjester. Time to see how cheap it is these days.
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Jim Cornette - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:44:39 EST ID:Unz5+Ums No.4700418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700417

Oh god damn it, I just checked and it's been removed everywhere because of expiring licenses. Fuck this gay earth.
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Jim Cornette - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:51:12 EST ID:Unz5+Ums No.4700419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700418

Oh fuck, I actually have it on gog. Completely forgot I bought it years ago. Fuck yeah, time to install that shit.
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HenryPanderstet.smd - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:31:45 EST ID:gLnaddQ6 No.4700434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The pentagon also announced a %2000 increase in these here testes.
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Big John Studd - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:41:39 EST ID:OzgNtuRi No.4700466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ameriKKKan society has basically trolled itself into schizophrenia

only COMMUNISM (the real movement against the current state of things) will save us and allow ourselves to see our conditions as they really are

will you engage in CLASS STRUGGLE or will you perish like a dog?
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Kung Lao - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:44:56 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4700467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700466
>will you engage in CLASS STRUGGLE or will you perish like a dog
proletip: you can do both lol
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Tora Ziyal - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:47:05 EST ID:s6XKW69z No.4700486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700434
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Arena Tycoon John - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 16:15:13 EST ID:DXQXl2wW No.4700489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700466
>submit to the type of government that is using information warfare to destabilize our current type of government
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Orchid - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 16:40:00 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4700495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700467
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Youngster Shitting - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 16:42:09 EST ID:W1xKUw20 No.4700497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700489
>implying that present day Russia is communist
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Orchid - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 16:52:49 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4700500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also:
>Anyone who questions the narrative in Syria is a troll.

This whole everything I don't like and that is anti status quo is Russian and or fake news thing is getting out of hand. It's hard to keep up what kind of rhetoric or discussion they're trying to silence using these methods.
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Harold Appleberg - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 16:54:15 EST ID:MMSKqWa4 No.4700501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lady Apache - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 17:15:10 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4700509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700500
>This whole everything I don't like and that is anti status quo is Russian and or fake news thing
There is a shitton of fake news that falls under "anti-status-quo", produced by Russian propaganda outlets.
That doesn't imply anything that opposes the status quo is Russian propaganda, but anything which supports a Russian status quo must be treated with extreme skepticism.
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Harold Appleberg - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 17:26:54 EST ID:MMSKqWa4 No.4700517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700509
>hates obvious propaganda

Posts obvious propaganda.

lol that pic proves nothing. and fools only idiots. Just give it a rest. You're not changing anyone's mind here.
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Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:19:45 EST ID:XEIqyJ2L No.4700544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700509
What about US propaganda? And US troll farms?
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Orchid - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:42:57 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4700559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700509
The problem is that all of those things overlap often and it's constantly being over simplified into "everything is this"
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 19:05:27 EST ID:OlDzdMQn No.4700571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just looked up where Syria was on the world map. OMG you fools, It's open territory, everyone and the dog could kick up some sand.
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Robert Wilson - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:03:04 EST ID:L/0B/Ofy No.4700615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700509
>>4700517
We are all trolls trolling one another in a grand internetical cycle of consternation and false statements. The most persuasive statement in this environment is a picture of an anime girl with a smug expression.

I ain't even read yall post.
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Kang - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:43:26 EST ID:OlDzdMQn No.4700624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so north korea is ok now? and the nuclear missiles that blow up New York in a Nostradamus prediction could be Russian? dang 2123
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Bill Alfonos - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:46:09 EST ID:9t5l5iaQ No.4700626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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xexexexexex я пoлучaю som бoгaтый пoст дeрьмa для putin здeсь в мoсквe, и приклaдoм рaзoчaрoвaниe aмeрикaнцeв слaдкo кaк мeд нa пeрсикe
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Sailor Betsy - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:03:11 EST ID:FvyjJpuL No.4700819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700500
No shit. I heard the newslady say "2000% increase in Russian trolls" and I just laughed. The news lady didn't even sound serious. She sounded like she knew exactly how retarded what she was saying was. Like she was realizing she lies for big bro all day
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Urbain Dubois - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:06:53 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4700822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just giving some possible context.

They probably just measured the total amount of data coming out of that building that houses the FSB internet army.
The US military already found out which building those guys operate out of, seeing how Dutch intelligence service counter-hackers backtraced, hacked and infected the trolls and social engineers that ran ads on Facebook during the 2016 elections.
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Ziglick Zagstick - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:30:43 EST ID:ctSylDfr No.4700933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700822
>implying faceberk ads won the election.

Too bad faceberg allows political ads on its platform huh?
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Phineas Sillerchat - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:50:40 EST ID:pSOcmru/ No.4700956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700822
First they hacked the DNC, then when the alleged hack turned out to be an internal leak (frame Russia for war profits anyone?), the next best thing we could make up after that was that they rigged our election inadvertently by trolling America on Facebook. It's like corporatist media outlets aren't even trying these days.

Meanwhile the DNC pleaded in court, under oath, that they did rig the primary election, but that their rigging is protected as free speech and that they aren't beholden to voters (or their own charter) since they're a private company.

Ain't that America.
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Urbain Dubois - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:56:56 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4700966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700933
It doesn't matter what effect the ads had on the election, or if they had one. The Dutch intelligence service proved beyond a doubt the Russians meddled with the elections. They were monitoring the Russian organ involved in cyberwarfare the entire time.

Of course, that begs the question why the American government didn't step in until after the fact. The Dutch alerted the USA the moment they noticed Russians messing with the elections on a massive scale.
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Jack Canningstone - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:05:24 EST ID:YIQ1OYOZ No.4700980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700966
>Taking any information released by high class professional liars and manipulators as proof beyond doubt
>Thinking that FSB has an easily mmonitored building that houses hackers
LOL
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Pat Barry - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:42:41 EST ID:oO6lctQC No.4701110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Russian propaganda is slowly choking the life out of this site.
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Lillian Crammerbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:01:25 EST ID:IEgs+Tii No.4701123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I wish I was a paid Russian troll. Hey Russians, hire me! I do good work, plenty of free time, I speak proper English and can really get a message across. I ***LOVE*** talking shit about the USA.
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Edith Ethelbert - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:04:51 EST ID:W1xKUw20 No.4701128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4700966
>It doesn't matter what effect the ads had on the election, or if they had one.
Right. It doesn't matter what the excuse for tribalist sabre-rattling is supposed to be. As long as you have any hint of a possibility of an excuse whatsoever, it's good enough for you.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:08:57 EST ID:WE40DfTm No.4701131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701123
Maybe the job of the actual Russian trolls is not necessarily to talk shit about America by themselves, but rather to support and encourage (read as psychologically manipulate) a lot of people like you into talking shit about America for free.
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Lillian Crammerbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:11:53 EST ID:IEgs+Tii No.4701136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701131

I don't need to be manipulated into talking shit about America. It's like jerking off, it just feels good. That's like saying that cute girls are manipulating me into jacking off.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:15:58 EST ID:WE40DfTm No.4701138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701136
Well they certainly provide ‘alternative facts’ that you can use for your hobby. The point is, why should they pay you, when you already work for free?
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Thrax - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:19:06 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4701142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700966
Who cares. The US does this all the time and if anybody is to blame for people being so idiotic that their political opinion is swayed by targeted ads then the American education system and our cyber intelligence for not being capable of combating it. This kind of shit happening in current day is a given. Nobody cries foul with all the manipulation that our "allies" do to American citizens.
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Thrax - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:20:39 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4701144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701138
>Criticizing our government is working for the enemy

God damn son, how's that kool aid?
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:21:22 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701131
>>loving America
>>2018

Shoot yourself.
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Lillian Crammerbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:24:38 EST ID:IEgs+Tii No.4701147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701138

There's only facts, no such thing as alternative facts. Why pay me? Cause I'm not full time. I'm not even quarter time. Throw me some shekels and I'll do this shit 24/7
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Minuet - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:29:01 EST ID:vellce9l No.4701150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701145
>>4701144
It’s just hilarious to me that you guys recoil so hard at the sight of Uncle Sam’s cock that your mouth falls right on to Putin’s hard dick.
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:36:42 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701150

Who has a deeper history of maintaining hegemony thru violence? Answer that with facts or shut the fuck up because nobody at all praised Putin. More you're either for us or against us bullshit. With that logic anyone who criticized Hitler in 1932 was a Stalin worshipper. Fuck off already, America isn't a force for good in the world, it has nothing to do with freedom nor does Russia.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:40:32 EST ID:WE40DfTm No.4701158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701155
The Romam empire outranks the USA in that department by a few Hundred DECADES! lol
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:41:05 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701155

Oh by the way until recently "anti" (country name here) was very unique to America alone. It was a nationalist propaganda technique used to associate critical thinking and questioning of power with "anti-americanism". You don't go to Italy and hear people en masse call a critique of authoritarianism as " anti Italian". The only places this technique is being used are places where fascist populations are growing, Russia included.

Seems like you are the beast you hate huh.
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:42:27 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701158

It doesn't exist, your point has no validity. Anyone who supports empires is a enemy of human progress.
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Thrax - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:44:04 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4701162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701150
Yeah you can laugh and we can yell back and forth about which of us is drinking the kool aid but at the end of the day, you're the one spouting rhetoric straight out of 1984...
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:45:24 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701162

Did you just say 1984? George Orwell was an anti American socialist!
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:08:14 EST ID:WE40DfTm No.4701175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701162
wut???
Where have I spouted any rethoric from 1984?

I have a feeling that’s just something you say to anyone you disagree with.
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Lillian Crammerbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:12:11 EST ID:IEgs+Tii No.4701180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701175

Your use of the word "alternative facts" is very Orwellian
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:21:32 EST ID:WE40DfTm No.4701192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701180
Alternative facts... fake news.... Isn’t it obvious that at least a significant part of that is coming out of a Russian propaganda effort aimed at creating dissent in the west and the delegitimization of western government/scientific institutions?
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Lillian Crammerbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:24:04 EST ID:IEgs+Tii No.4701196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701192

It's Americans who have come up with this newspeak. Russians can't even speak proper English, yet come up with these new, nuanced terms.
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:28:54 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701192

Lmfao you talk about drinking kool aid but you think Americas own actions aren't deligitmizing in themselves. If all Russia has to do is look on Wikipedia for one minute to find a list of real atrocities, then can you really blame Russia?

Your government plays dirty as fuck and the fact that you see legitimacy in the West and their policy but none in Russia's shows how much kool aid you're sipping. You were one Moscow birth away from thinking "heh, American dogs, and their attempts at global rule! You are anti putin!".

Meanwhile those of us with brains want all empires to crash and burn.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:12:06 EST ID:WE40DfTm No.4701210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701199
And who is going to rule when all the empires crash and burn? Or are you so naive to think nobody is going to step into that vacuum?

Better semi benevolent hegemonies then chaos.
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Lillian Crengerdit - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:20:08 EST ID:zLeJINLJ No.4701217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701210
damn, I got whiplash from how fast you moved those goalposts.
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Kazuo Misaki - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:07 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4701219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701210
those dudes are standing way too close to swing those swords effectively
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Ziglick Zagstick - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:22:15 EST ID:ctSylDfr No.4701220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701161
yet almost all modern tech and science momentum is made in America or Europe.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:31:07 EST ID:WE40DfTm No.4701224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701217
Where did I move the goal posts? please explain.
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:39:35 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701210

Basically your logic is "fuck you I got mine id rather be the boot stomping than getting stomped on". Good. Enjoy when 90% of the world being non-westeners successfully rises up against Western imperialism. You are the minority and the white genocide is upon us you capitalist pigdog imperialist crackers.
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:47:37 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701220

Yet such progress seems to bring us closer to extinction than anything. The amount of people who excuse authoritarianism and despotism here is fucking pathetic. You all basically want the freedom to continue to extort the entire world so you can sit in Ivory towers of naivity believing it all wont come crashing down at some point. Y'all point to Rome like it had some glorious end because you believe a bunch of propaganda by wealthy and powerful Romans.

Anyone who supports their nation rather than their class in conflict is a fucking stallion with no critical thinking skills.

You are legit contributing to the pile shit known as modern human social dynamics by seeing legitimacy in wealthy fucks controlling us. You're willingness and love for empire is allowing that boot to press down harder on all our backs. I've never understood people who respect their rulers. True individuals can think for themselves.
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Jose Garces - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:12:25 EST ID:UxXuBP8M No.4701259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701254
>authoritarianism and despotism
>America and Europe

wat. OH! I get it, you're a teenage or twenty something anarchist who wants to return to living in huts made of animal skins so we can die prematurely from easily preventable diseases.

You don't really belong in a discussion on world affair or politics then. You should be making bombs and figuring out government targets to blow up to bring about the future you wish to see.

>Anyone who supports their nation rather than their class
Oh yea there it is. Brainwashed by moldy Soviet propaganda. smh.
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Jose Garces - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:14:29 EST ID:UxXuBP8M No.4701262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701251
Yea, why can't everyone just be nice! Such a shame huh? Natural selection really is a drag...

I think you could maybe pray to Jesus to make everyone nice?
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Thrax - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:21:01 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4701263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701220
Japan does well for themselves and they're not allowed to be Imperialist at all. It's not necessary for prosperity. It's only necessary if you're greedy and want it all.
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Blackbelt Shit - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:32:35 EST ID:pSt9e9x6 No.4701264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701259

To be fair, a discussion on world affairs and politics doesn't belong on /b/ on 420chan!!!

Soooo ZINGOOOOO SEE YA LATERRRR DUUUUUUDES!!

NO MORE /POL/! NO MORE /POL/! NO MORE /POL/!

Come on, guys! Let's radicalize against political discussion on /b/![/%]WOOO yeah... No. Just kidding. I'm going to get more high.[/%]
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:38:39 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701259

You're legit afraid of having to compete against the conditions of evolution and nature, yet are perfectly fine with the threat of nuclear warfare. Because dying in a blaze of global warming, or nuclear warfare is so much better than people living within something they're apart of. Ehh how dare you critique the government, what do you want to have to hunt for food and struggle against the elements!! Do you know how idiotic you sound or are you just convinced that humanity is seperare from earths biology. Holy shit, could you even fend a day for yourself in the woods without thinking "where's burger King?". Pathetic.

>>anarchists
>>governments

You do know the bomb throwing stereotype came from rich businessmen who feared for their lives because people were engaging in fighting for labor lives. It wasn't just anarchists becoming violent but ordinary workers were throwing dynamite at Pinkertons. Railworkers were raiding armories and engaging in shootouts with national guard, looting and destroying anything the wealthy owned. In reality at the time of this stereotype,the wealthy elite used more murder and violence to intimidate rebellious workers than all anarchists in history. Bet you got no gripe with that tho, eh stallion?


Never did I mention anarchy. Though historically I don't really see why you'd hate them compared to traditionalists and nationalists. I enjoy things like free love, women being able to express sexuality, my bosses having less power over me, and not letting a bunch of pyscopaths determine the future of over millions of people. What an insane idea, Eh?
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Stallrein Hailsbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:41:54 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701262

You might want to be careful with the might makes right theory, because while mostly true, after saying that you have to realize most of the world is poor and most of the world does not respect America. So with that in mind just know that might makes right will easily be flipped in the coming years just as it has in the past. Why you think all those ugly white nationalists are so afraid? The powerful always kick and scream all the way down their decline. Never thought we'd see that kicking and screaming on Twitter. God bless the future lol
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Jean Bardet - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:57:09 EST ID:OzgNtuRi No.4701275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701259
That pic is pretty dumb because atrazine is an industrial pollutant, it's not the gubmint putting it in the water to turn the frogs gay, it's a byproduct of commercial agriculture.

>Atrazine is an herbicide that is used to stop pre- and postemergence broadleaf and grassy weeds in crops such as sorghum, maize, sugarcane, lupins, pine, and eucalypt plantations, and triazine-tolerant canola.
>In the United States as of 2014, atrazine was the second-most widely used herbicide after glyphosate

Alex Jones can't say that though because free enterprise is God's plan for humans and government intervention to stop atrazine pollution is fucking communism you god damn fag ass motherfucker get out of my America dirty rat go back to Cuba! or something like that

Anyway you calling class struggle "Soviet propaganda" is hilarious. The USSR gave up on class struggle very early on, and began supporting nationalist causes across the world under Stalin. This positive attitude toward nationalism is one thing that separates left-communists from Stalinists.
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Kimo Leopoldo - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:05:28 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701275

Lmao Soviets legit waged a military war, and proxy manipulation of internationalists and anarchists around the world. In Ukraine they combatted the black army, in Russia they banned anarchism and unions, and in China Bolshevik agents streered Mao from anarchism and hijacked the energy of one the largest anarchist movements at the time, there were millions participating in China and Japan alone. They were all directed towards Soviet style nationalism with communist imagery. Nothing more.
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Kimo Leopoldo - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:07:03 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701282

Forgot one. The Stalinists decided Catalonia,a place with no police for over 4 years and millions of people suddenly needed policing from their secret police.
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Tyler Florence - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:55:50 EST ID:U8y2+Piv No.4701300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701254
>Yet such progress seems to bring us closer to extinction than anything.

How can you be so sure of that? History has often showed turbulent times that looked like the end of the world, and for many it was exactly that. But you know, politics slings, cultural ideas evolve or just die out. But in general stuff seems to go in a good direction? The world getting shittier is an old idea but it might not be true.
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Fark McGeezax - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:01:27 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4701305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700980
The Russian government has a long history of being completely blind to the proper usage of technological tools.

That's one thing the Soviets ran much better than the current hypercapitalist Russian plutocrats. If you want technology to work for you, you put scientists in charge - not politicians or generals.
Of course, that is a no-go area for Putin because scientists are to anarchistic to control, they might just create some kind of pro-democracy deep state within the Russian intelligence service and begin a revolution from the inside.
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Kimo Leopoldo - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:04:39 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701300

Science tells us the earth is dying. Science also tells us that if even a qtr of the world's nukes were used humanity would have an extremely hard time recovering. Most of our sciences goes towards military or market predictions. Look how funded NASA is. Science also tells us struggling against the elements of nature (shelter, food, clothing) is how life is set up to work on earth. I'm not exactly saying we can return to living in huts over night but it's pretty clear the way our society exists is in a self destructive way.
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Tyler Florence - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 21:31:23 EST ID:U8y2+Piv No.4701323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701308
Science also shows that the future is very hard to predict because you can't take in account unimaginable scientific discoveries.
Science also shows promise in the capability of finding solutions.
Science is pretty new too, it's still rough around the edges.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but no matter how you feel about it it isn't really going to change much just like that. It only changes with little steps, it has always changed in little steps. Humans gonna humans, and humans are flawed, but humans might be able to acknowledge those flaws and to take them in account when making decisions.
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Kimo Leopoldo - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:13:06 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701323

Which is what I'm arguing for. The person I'm responding to originally comes from a camp unable to hold people who make things worst for humanity. The person I'm responding to comes from a camp that fears leaping out of the known into the unknown because "tradition is security and comfort". Example is I critique the way things are and the response suddenly becomes " I want us all to die." I'm not the one who fears the organized chaos of the universe, I just acknowledge being ruled by other humans and men with iron fists is a complete and total hinderence on our development. I'd rather be at complete mercy of science and nature than at the complete mercy of men who think they are everything scientific and natural. Humanity is afraid of the fact that when it comes down to it were just animals ourselves. I'd rather live in a world where my own two hands and brain is my survival, not one where a few rich bitches kick their legs up and let all of us struggle for their needs and wants. I'd much rather struggle for my own needs directly. Equality to me doesn't mean I want everything handed to me, it means that any old mother fucker can starve or be subdued by the elements just as quickly as me, after one mistake. Not a world that pampers some while forcing their responsibility on everyone else. Imagine how quickly the CEO of Nike would last compared to most of us if he had to struggle against poverty or the elements of earth. Give him a damn week tops.


Now I'm not saying we should return to huts but maybe agriculture was a mistake. Maybe we need more balance between civ or a more natural minded civilization to advance as humanity. As you said future is uncertain but we do know what we have now if it ever had a purpose is now long lost and becoming harmful worldwide.
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Kimo Leopoldo - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:14:12 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701335
>>worst for humanity accountable

Fixd
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HamiltonCroblingnodge.pdr - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:22:23 EST ID:DCGfqDDg No.4701339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lmao so according to all these lefties Trump was working WITH the Russians, and now Trump is getting ready to fuck Russian asses.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE SON? WHO IS TEAMED WITH WHO.

Lol just kidding you don't know shit and never will idiot civilians
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Kimo Leopoldo - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:27:49 EST ID:rXMEROiY No.4701340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701339
>civilians

Cop spotted.
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Joey Styles - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:39:22 EST ID:xMeVAoLj No.4701347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701305

>humans might be able to acknowledge those flaws and to take them in account when making decisions.

Usually at the cost of years of strife or a genocidal amount of human lives, but it is slowly getting less flawed.
No advancement came without watching tons of people get fucked first.
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Augustus Cole - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 23:21:06 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4701372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701339
I can't keep up. One minute the right is the jingoists and then all this Russia stuff pops up and suddenly the left is the jingoists. Do these people have no principles besides following whichever way the wind blows??
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Trainer Blue - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 01:26:14 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4701403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701372
>One minute the right is the jingoists and then all this Russia stuff pops up and suddenly the center-right is also jingoists.
FTFY.
The democrats are mostly center-right.
This is why they went along with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc, this is why they passed a healthcare plan rooted in the fucking Heritage Foundation that punishes poor people and greases insurance companies when they had full control of congress, this is why the made the Bush tax cuts permanent, this is why they continued all the shit the Patriot act started.
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Augustus Cole - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 01:30:09 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4701404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701403
being a liberal isn't necessarily anti-war. The anti war liberals have been missing since Bush was president and I don't think that's a coincidence...
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Alan Guth - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 02:36:46 EST ID:nw2u02ao No.4701413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701403
Aye, its a constrained perspective of the political spectrum, mistaking the poles of left and right as being center-left (even center-right) to far-right. What's that called again? Anyways. spot on. When neocons side with democrats should be a big ol, hhmmmm. nb /pol/, rip. Under bridges demanding penances.
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Cedric Clemmleput - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 02:57:55 EST ID:nMqvtilH No.4701424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701308
>Science tells us the earth is dying.
Not at all, some species are dying, some are thriving in the new environment. It would take science on steroids to make the earth die, if it's even possible.
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Rupert Tacklestock - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 03:52:42 EST ID:XEIqyJ2L No.4701440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701404
Very few leftists are not anti-war. The far-right Democrat Party of the US is not a liberal or leftist party by any stretch of the imagination. Pro-war and hypercapitalist. If you have ever voted for a Democrat you should consider suicide.
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Cedric Clemmleput - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 04:05:53 EST ID:nMqvtilH No.4701444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701440
It's basically the same thing,. In politics, especially in USA, left vs right, conservative vs liberal is a superficial division created to keep idiots occupied. I'm afraid you fell for it.
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B.B. Hood - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 04:35:17 EST ID:e1OY0CLi No.4701451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701424
If you take, say, fifty H-bombs in the hundred megaton range and jacket them with Cobalt-Thorium, when they are exploded they will produce a doomsday shroud. A lethal cloud of radioactivity which will encircle the earth for ninety-three years
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Bertha Faye - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:01:00 EST ID:BVnHcCpl No.4701459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701451
Life will still find a way, it survived meteorites after all. In mere millions of years another intelligence will emerge.
Chernobyl exclusion zone is one of the more thriving ecosystems on earth.
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Fark McGeezax - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:41:41 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4701473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701459
The only life that could survive salted nuke bombings are lower lifeforms in the earths crust. All vertibrate evolution would need a do over.
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Fark McGeezax - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:44:58 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4701475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701339
Trump is just bipolar. Putin stuck his dick in crazy and now he has blisters.
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Kindler Rebecca - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:25:48 EST ID:RRdFYVX2 No.4701486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What a load of bologna. I have never encountered these so called Russian trolls or bots or hackers. I've been accused of being one several times, I assume it's all senseless paranoia
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Teddy Von Shackleford - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:30:53 EST ID:xIvA5Qzu No.4701502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701486
that's EXACTLY what a russian troll would say
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Rupert Tacklestock - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:32:41 EST ID:XEIqyJ2L No.4701504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701502
No, THAT'S exactly what a Russian troll would say
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Trainer Blue - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:36:53 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4701507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701413
Overton window.
If you start out with an extreme position and the other person starts out with what they see as reasonable, you shift the entire discussion towards you and the position you really want seems like a compromise.

This is why immigration policies that were nearly passed by republicans under Bush are further left than the democrats starting position today.
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Winstrate Phoebe - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:42:01 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4701508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701507
What if you're genuinely in favour of post-natal abortions?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9113394/Killing-babies-no-different-from-abortion-experts-say.html
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Trainer Blue - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:55:18 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4701512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701508
It's complicated, often disparate political ideologies have overlapping policies or similar ideologies proscribe disparate policies, and any attempt to put ideologies on a spectrum is imprecise.

Also that image I posted is bad, I don't know of any leftist ideology calling for mandatory abortion.
Communist Yugoslavia, China, and a few others actually banned birth control and abortion.

But I suspect the "doctors" in your telegraph article are anti-abortion.
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Artist Alice - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:27:05 EST ID:UxXuBP8M No.4701616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3NE0y3LkQ
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Winstrate Phoebe - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:32:47 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4701618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701512
>But I suspect the "doctors" in your telegraph article are anti-abortion.
Nah, they're doctors of philosophy. It's not uncommon for people whose job it is to actually think about stuff instead of just going with whatever emotional reaction they have to come to conclusions that shock the people in that second group.
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Artist Alice - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:42:07 EST ID:UxXuBP8M No.4701623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701507
What would the difference between left and right wing eugenics be?

The right would value personal choice / preferences in customizing your lab grown baby with cleaned up DNA heritage from the parents.
And the left would...? Force everyone to include 20% African and 20% Asian DNA along with the parents? Since you now, race is just a social construct that doesn't exist, this way there will be no more bigotry :^)
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PhineasClaydale.sea - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:59:27 EST ID:Q0VR/O1d No.4701630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701623
>cleaned up DNA heritage
You guys really do have a child's understanding of how genetics works, don't you?
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GrahamBunspear.psp - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:05:19 EST ID:77ibSovD No.4701632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701630
you can modify it, moron. cut and paste action, like me and your mom when we make Christmas cards to your entire extended family.
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Raymundo VonRibbentropp - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:16:38 EST ID:dfEiG+xG No.4701640 Report Quick Reply
>>4701623

Pic is misleading. In the 1950's-1960's the Republicans started pandering to disillusioned southern whites while the Dems flipped. Basically the parties swapped platforms. It was the "Southern strategy" and it resulted in the parties being the way they are today.

Though the Republicans have always, always been for the rich with one or two exceptions.
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Kagetsu - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:35:45 EST ID:H8maDqiu No.4701647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701640
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Alan Guth - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:55:47 EST ID:nw2u02ao No.4701702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701640 pic related.
>>4701507 Oh yeah, the Overton window, thanks.

>>4701623
Its not a simple left/right policy position. I imagine the radical left would be that dude in Gattaca defying the genetic expectations. Whoops, my bias is showing.
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Mike Goldberg - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:58:37 EST ID:XuQfNk/o No.4701737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701702
bro that is like an interpretive dance in chart form
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Trainer Blue - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:21:29 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4701750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701623
See: >>4701512

>The right would value personal choice / preferences in customizing your lab grown baby with cleaned up DNA heritage from the parents.
No, they'd require children of miscegenation or even lesser races be killed/aborted and those convicted of homosexuality, anti-social behavior, or "deviant acts" be sterilized, as we've seen.
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Fark McGeezax - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:30:53 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4701772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Radical right eugenics would just keep stretching the definition of "unwanted genes" until eventually the whole world would just be one clone cloned billions of times, having gay sex with itself.
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Sidney Suzzlestut - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 06:15:45 EST ID:sQ4ucURj No.4702413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4701737
seriously man I can't read that fucking chart. Some graphic artist wanted to use his creativity on a chart.
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Livington Fuckwiggle - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 06:33:18 EST ID:Zb5bGmtX No.4702416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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wish government was collecting data on my trolling abilities and briefed the media every time i have a late night shitpost binge
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Soma Cruz - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:15:21 EST ID:ITDvgrUR No.4702423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4700379

AGGHHHHM... Fuuu
....the rrruussiannn... Troo...lls. hacking... H-hack my b-braimmm....

Ahhghh....Привeт! Кaк пoживaeтe?
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Team Aqua Grunt Simon - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:23:44 EST ID:h3kKoWR0 No.4702424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4701772
>>4701772
And this explains the Mike pence clone future. His.wife is also a clone of himself....


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