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Dawkins Scale by Grimp - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:55:31 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Where are you on the scale and why? I'm pretty much a 6.
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Princess Aura - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:59:22 EST ID:olHduLCH No.4826292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably a 4. You can't prove the existence of a God or gods, and you can't disprove the existence of a God or gods. Believing either is making assumptions that we can't make reasonably.

Though I would like to point out that to claim there is a God, and that you know their name, and everything they want, and the extent of their powers, and yadda yadda yadda, is far more ridiculous than someone else simply claiming there is no God.
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Wendy Padbury - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:00:13 EST ID:OThmP++H No.4826293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's like I'm really on facebook
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Grimp - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:05:28 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826292
>Probably a 4. You can't prove the existence of a God or gods, and you can't disprove the existence of a God or gods.

You can neither prove nor disprove the existence of santa claus, does this mean that the chances of santa claus existing is exactly 50%?
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Grimp - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:06:00 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
*are nb
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Duras - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:17:40 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4826301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826291
Fuck Dawkins. You think a guy is so clever for obsessing with every religion like prince charles? You think it's so easy to gather information that applies to a large number of religions? Okay, fine maybe if you don't actually give a rat's ass about it actually being useful or accurate!

Here's an actually apt arrangement of just christians, that actually is able to be right due to having a coherant range of focus, from strongest to weakest.

  1. Believes in the Holy Spirit
  2. Believes in God
  3. Believes in Jesus
  4. Believes in the gospel writers
  5. Believes in the cross
  6. Believes in Saint Paul
  7. Believes in Crusades
  8. Believes in the pope
  9. Believes in the monarch
  10. Believes in christianity
  11. Believes in western christianity or straight christianity
  12. Believes in gay christianity or fastist christianity
  13. Believes in "the church"

I probably left out several, whoops.
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Fucking Closslebun - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:21:30 EST ID:QLTOtYac No.4826303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826293
No lie. I'm like 3-5 who cares? Talking about religion gets old here because it incites bigotry and inevitable labeling.
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Grimp - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:28:53 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826301
Aren't you an special contrarian boy! Any single label is lacking in nuance, you fucking retard, they're supposed to be starting points so you elaborate on why you consider yourself x,y, or z. No single label is 100% accurate; none of the additional labels you listed is sufficient to describe a particular christian. You could nitpick any list of labels endlessly, you buttfaced goober.
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Grimp - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:34:08 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
*a
Jesus, my english is so shit. My brazil is really showing today. nb
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Wendy Padbury - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:38:04 EST ID:OThmP++H No.4826313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826312
Thats kind of offensive saying that the average Brazilian is as slow as you.
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Grimp - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:12:00 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826313
Me, slow? That's not what she said.
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Wendy Padbury - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:26:01 EST ID:OThmP++H No.4826333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826327
I think you're lower rung than the Brazilians that require asshole recoloration on naruto porn
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Kevin Dunn - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 21:47:47 EST ID:le9zT5cf No.4826349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Flawed scale. It doesn't account for the plethora of different metaphysical constructs which don't fall under either category. For example, I believe that everything is connected and follows certain patterns but any attempt to label it will never capture its essence. As in, the way that can be named is not the infinite way.
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Tom Hanks - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:33:05 EST ID:Vl6QtRWK No.4826435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
2

I love you all
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Duras - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 00:38:05 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4826437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826306
Bullshit, "oh, if you don't like thing, it's just not exactly, absolutely perfect enough for you!"

No! Just because it looks exactly mildly complex enough for you, doesn't make it decent, reasonable, thoughtful or sane!

This kind of crap does nothing but spray a dose of philosopherish neatness onto the religion issue. *Yawn!*, religion and philosophy dancing together awkwardly and tensely is like the most trite, derivative, lame thing.

This guy's just obsessing with and panderring to the skydaddy factor, like every other chickenshit scared to touch all sorts of other aspects of every religion. Everyone's always preaching shit that all plays in with this mass hysteria that the skydaddy conviction is this one profound aspect of religion to fuss over, expecting something to come of obsessing over that. It does nothing but cement this fanatical meme that you have no right to have any thoughts or negative feelings about any other aspect of religion!
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Jarvis Pullywill - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:20:32 EST ID:HBFe8P6a No.4826465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826292
No need to disprove nonsense words. Most people's definitions of "God" are self-contradictory and therefore meaningless. Any valid definitions must be finite and empirical and doesn't deserve to be worshiped. Therefore, there's nothing I would accept as "God", which makes me a strong atheist.
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Stuart Erection - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:25:40 EST ID:fg6+Cepy No.4826466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dawkins is a hack and a huge fuckin dipshit, who cares about anything he says or promotes?
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Joseph Sisko - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:46:50 EST ID:3U4PR8zB No.4826469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826466
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CarolineSanningman.jar - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 02:56:51 EST ID:zpRY9a54 No.4826470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1 son
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Blaze Zed - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 03:07:26 EST ID:0A8Wyksp No.4826471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I prefer the Dawson Scale. Survey says I'm a Heathen.
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Grimp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 05:36:25 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826437
>This guy's just obsessing with and panderring to the skydaddy factor, like every other chickenshit scared to touch all sorts of other aspects of every religion.

What are you talking about? This is not true. He's talked about many aspects of religion.
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Raymundo VonRibbentropp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 06:08:47 EST ID:UkScMaYG No.4826505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I actually met some sort of an angel or something so that puts me at about 1.3
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Phor Twentee - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 07:20:50 EST ID:8eSv04PM No.4826512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm on the "I want to be leaf" spot.
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Duras - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 07:29:30 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4826513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826499
Wow! I have to be well versed on his peripheral writings to react to his public shove. Oh well, no surprise...
>you fucking retard, they're supposed to be starting points so you elaborate on why you consider yourself x,y, or z.
Guess I have to just expect to get signalled to over and over that for having any sort of position that's not in line with religion, this dawkins creature has to be the foundation nowadays.
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Boq'ta - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 07:29:37 EST ID:CazxWNzA No.4826514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the reason you can't debate "God" is because there is no actual consensus on what God actually is.
if you're talking about some supernatural force controlling the universe, well that absolutely has to exist otherwise what's controlling things like Quantum Mechanics and the Higgs Boson?
if you mean the Descartian description of God where everything True is holy and everything False is of the devil, then I suppose that could exist too, if you are literally reducing the God and the Devil to those terms.
Debating God is kind of like debating Socialism: useless because everyone has their own personal definition of what the word actually means.
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LydiaPinningfield.psd - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 08:25:45 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4826519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826514
>if you're talking about some supernatural force controlling the universe, well that absolutely has to exist otherwise what's controlling things like Quantum Mechanics and the Higgs Boson?
wut
you can't say that
now we have to debate our own personal definitions of "controlling"
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Kyle O'Reilly - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:08:40 EST ID:5l8Ke6K5 No.4826592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Atheism is fucking retarded. Human beings have been spiritual creatures since the dawn of man. The mere fact that we exist and are able to comprehend and reflect on it is proof enough of higher powers, whatever they may be. Doesn't have to be a big bearded man in the sky. If you believe in the Big Bang, that in itself is an act of God.

Seriously, wtf has atheism ever achieved, apart from spawn a couple of cynical circlejerking neckbeards? I feel an inert and intensely strong connection to the stars, the ground I walk on, the mattress I sleep on, the food I eat, the air I breathe. We are creatures of the universe. The universe is a mysterious, inexplicable being, and I repeat, the mere fact that it EXISTS, is, to me at least, overwhelming and mind-blowing proof that there are forces in this world that we don't understand. Don't fucking tell me "naw it just is, and then there isn't".

I don't prescribe to any one religion but I learn, understand and draw upon from all religions, of all cultures. Being a spiritual person has done so much for me as a person and my mental fortitude. Just because we experience senses in a physical world in front of us doesn't mean there aren't other planes of existence. Tell me how many neckbeard atheists meditate? How many neckbeard atheists know what it feels like to induce visions and transcendental meditation? Zero. Because anyone who has meditated and tried to get in touch with their inner divine being, which exists in all of us, knows that atheism is a cancer of modern society.
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Yumiko Inoue - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:09:06 EST ID:V0XtG8h5 No.4826594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ur all fag
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Hubert Keller - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:16:53 EST ID:CIuCVqGf No.4826598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826592
This may be the most pretentious thing I've ever read.
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Grimp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:17:19 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826513
Did richard dawkins molest you in your childhood?

>>4826592
>The mere fact that we exist and are able to comprehend and reflect on it is proof enough of higher powers

How so?

>If you believe in the Big Bang, that in itself is an act of God.

How so?
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Barnaby Sibbleridge - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:17:46 EST ID:2zrUV64v No.4826600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826598
Do you want to explain why, faggot?
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Fucking Closslebun - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:18:42 EST ID:QLTOtYac No.4826601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826600
Yes, he does.
I wish /b/ would just quit religion like they did politics.
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Hubert Keller - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:25:31 EST ID:CIuCVqGf No.4826605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826600
>I'm spiritual and I meditate. I study specious metaphysical bullshit from around the world. If anyone knows anything about god it's me, don't you see how amazingly enlightened I am? All you infidels are so dumb, anyone who is enlightened like me can see god is real, and if you disagree you're stupid and cancerous
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Fox McCloud - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:27:56 EST ID:59o3j2KH No.4826607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm a 7

Also I'm an absurdist
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Fox McCloud - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:30:51 EST ID:59o3j2KH No.4826610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826592
Thanks for broadcasting your bigotry.
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JennyDorringwater.cpp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:31:20 EST ID:krxX0Dte No.4826611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826291
2, because pantheism. Would be 1, but cartesian skepticism.
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Fox McCloud - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:40:10 EST ID:59o3j2KH No.4826622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I cannot know for sure that their isn't a spaghetti monster orbiting our earth like a satellite (he's invisible and can't be detected because he's in another dimension), i merely have faith and the limits of evidence and common sense to believe 100 percent that it's not real, and to give .0001 percent of credence to that would defy that faith, make me sick to my stomach, and allow me to consider other contemptible notions, so long as people allow their existence with this flawed notion that if it's not 100 percent certain than it HAS to exist.

The fact that I believe that there are forces that I will never comprehend, that humanity will neve possibly understand, does not make me any less than a perfect 7.
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Raymundo VonRibbentropp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:42:49 EST ID:UkScMaYG No.4826624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826622
>Spaghetti monster defense mechanism
Lame
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PhyllisClayshaw.dwg - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 12:55:12 EST ID:JUc+6xnp No.4826633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826301
Dawkins is however clever for coining the term "meme" though most people are actually too dumb to understand what it means and just think it means image macros. Which is a shame really. The idea that ideas can travel through other forms (like image macros keying us in to a joke or becoming one) and become part of each individual's culture is fascinating.

He just rides the gravy train by upsetting theists. Mostly western christians because they're most likely to see his shit.

I find the notion that someone is planning or running this universe to be completely horrifying so this probably means I'd over value the absence of evidence for a god.
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Fox McCloud - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 13:46:16 EST ID:59o3j2KH No.4826649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826624
I'm not going to change the name of my analogy just because it triggers you.
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Fox McCloud - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:00:30 EST ID:59o3j2KH No.4826654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826592
Have you ever considered that the universe is actually mundane, makes complete sense, and is not far fetched at all? That our puny human brains aren't able to understand it, thus we experience shear awe (spirtuality), isn't an explanation or evidence for god or awe or spirtuality to be the reality.

If an ant knew that we existed =/= the universe is only explainable through theism.
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Grimp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:04:55 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826649
I was with you on the flying ramen monster thing because I find it cute, but then you also used the "triggered" defense mechanism. Come on, my man.
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LydiaPinningfield.psd - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:06:41 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4826656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826655
how about "boils your noodles"?
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Rocket Executive Shit - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:14:35 EST ID:pOTy6aZp No.4826660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826655
How about fuck off, Brazil?
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Extreme Tiger - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:19:47 EST ID:c9zHcYi4 No.4826661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
5. I don’t spend much time thinking about spirituality.
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Hiroyuki Sakai - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:31:12 EST ID:9hybkfcO No.4826667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Penn Gillette told me to be an atheist so I am
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Grimp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:48:57 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826660
It is really irresponsible what you're doing. I have a serious condition so don't go saying that I should go kill myself, ok, this is irresponsible.
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Third of Five - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:53:11 EST ID:pyQ1p841 No.4826683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826649
It's a defence mechanism you use to shield yourself from even considering opposing logic. Equivalent to putting fingers in your ears while smearing shit (with your penis, obviously) on people you're supposed to be conversing with.
inb4 strawman defence mechanism
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Rocket Executive Shit - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:53:32 EST ID:pOTy6aZp No.4826684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826680
>Telling someone to fuck off is now the same as telling them to kys themselves
Fuck off, Brazil.
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Kolyat Krios - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:56:28 EST ID:c0aDIw/H No.4826686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826592

Lol gr8 b8 m8. If this ismt copypasta ot should be.
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Bette Davis - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:00:12 EST ID:qv8fCyEX No.4826687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826471
Richard Dawson was the shit.
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Grimp - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:01:06 EST ID:Ws/iky5n No.4826688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>48266
84 I'm sorry, I was so used to having you tell me to kys myself and I thought you were tellimg me to kys meself again. And why are you pretending that it's other people telling me to kys myself when I'm pretty sure that it's you who's telling me to kyms myself?
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Hubert Keller - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:07:13 EST ID:CIuCVqGf No.4826691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826683
>It's a defence mechanism you use to shield yourself from even considering opposing logic
Are you sure it's not just an analogy being used to demonstrate an idea? I don't think it's out of place when the "opposing logic" is just a person's feelings about how super magical and mysterious the universe is
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Rocket Executive Shit - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:17:20 EST ID:pOTy6aZp No.4826695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826688
I'm sorry you don't know how to read.
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Don Harris - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 18:11:49 EST ID:2JC6oSt8 No.4826772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dunno, I'm probably more of a "skeptical spiritualist" anyway. Maybe a 5 on this scale?
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ArchieShakecocke.lab - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 19:00:55 EST ID:pyQ1p841 No.4826794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826691
>strawman mechanism of defense
Not to invalidate them as data points, but there's a lot more to consider than personal feelings when it comes to God, among gentlemen of class, intellect and open mind at least.
It's not as obvious as you want it to be. Maybe try not discussing this topic if you find it that irritating.
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Giada De Laurentils - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 19:09:55 EST ID:CIuCVqGf No.4826797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826794
>there's a lot more to consider than personal feelings when it comes to God
Okay Mr. Class and Intellect, like what?
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ArchieShakecocke.lab - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 19:44:25 EST ID:pyQ1p841 No.4826805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826797
You'll find out when you really think about it
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Urbain Dubois - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 19:51:26 EST ID:mQ2dqgEu No.4826808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826805
So you don't actually have anything, you're just being a pretentious twat
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ArchieShakecocke.lab - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 20:03:50 EST ID:pyQ1p841 No.4826810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826808
No point discussing it with a spaghetti monster denier, but there is a whole field of study related to it, hundreds if not thousands of books have been written by extremely sharp people, and while none so far managed to prove anything, some gave compelling tries, which should bring any but the most stubborn strawman spaghetti fedora angst types further and further away from the bottom of Dawkins scale. 4 is a natural place for someone who properly doesnt give a fuck.
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Johann Encke - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 20:11:35 EST ID:EBI8DRQs No.4826813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826810
>there is a whole field of study related to it, hundreds if not thousands of books have been written by extremely sharp people
And? Lots of books about phrenology and astrology, doesn't mean they're worth anything.

>while none so far managed to prove anything, some gave compelling tries
Just another way of saying "I feel it so it's true." Your entire argument hinges on faith, which is a feeling
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Oliver Pockbanks - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 21:55:58 EST ID:/8qU4Iyr No.4826841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Explain to me how you can take yourself seriously as an atheistic master of reason and logic while simultaneously defending and promoting trannyism.
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Simon Snodshaw - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 22:28:30 EST ID:nfXh4wcI No.4826846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm a level 9000 Edgelord
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EstherHuvingbine.dll - Wed, 09 Jan 2019 23:46:12 EST ID:yUwOsz8/ No.4826864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm number 1 for sure. I don't know who or what God is, but until I become God myself I'm sure they exist.
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ArchieShakecocke.lab - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 02:43:34 EST ID:pyQ1p841 No.4826928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826813
Your entire argument hinges on spaghetti
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Morrigan Aensland - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 05:59:30 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4826957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826599
>Did richard dawkins molest you in your childhood?
And what if he only tried? Or what if he ordered the school nurse to inject me with various estrogens to investigate their usefullness as masking agents for anabolic steroids while working as a teacher in the GDR, where he learned all his ideology in the first place? What if he did this after I caught him deeply involved in a fiendish scheme to use LSD and PCP to fuck up non-anglican religions? Or many of these things?
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Grand Nagus Gint - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 06:16:49 EST ID:1L8XXaI9 No.4826959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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A solid 7 but i have to admit what people came up with to answer the question is pretty amusing.
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Morrigan Aensland - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 06:35:11 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4826964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826841
By not centering your whole damn perspective around a webcomic, tumbler and 4th wave feminist groups?
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Jushin Thunder Liger - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 06:36:33 EST ID:8qthL3Dt No.4826965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1 and 6 are the only outlooks on the universe that make sense to me. 6 here.
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Morrigan Aensland - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 06:47:31 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4826971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826633
Okay, but he did get himself turned into an atheist-product.

And I will give him another thing, he does acknowledge other religions as scarrier than western christianity.

But it's damn annoying to put up with all these people who just embrace him as the sole current serious representative of atheism.
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MatildaBromblewere.mpp - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 07:27:56 EST ID:ULuy4b2a No.4826982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826291
the scale is very wrong
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Morrigan Aensland - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 07:34:20 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4826983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826982
So you might agree that instead we need specialized scales for specific religions(as expemlified above), or possibly some for clusters of religions?
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Hans McKiffer - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:32:25 EST ID:rEbFbYtP No.4827009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
7.

Not a theist.
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Hans McKiffer - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 10:38:49 EST ID:rEbFbYtP No.4827010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I grew up in secular Judaism, so my 7 is not a product of Christian rebellion, and if your resentment of strong atheism is just a byproduct of your prejudice against a political/cultural clique, then your beliefs are as immature and naive as the rebellion Christians you despise.
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Esther Higglenane - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 16:17:42 EST ID:0sTMsLqP No.4827076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>God

Which one?
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Sean Combs - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 16:19:25 EST ID:vYT30l5D No.4827077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am agnostic. Grew up catholic and don't go to church or read the bible. Also some of the priests are messed up. If I were to become a monk some type of buddhist one might be a good idea to me over a christian one. I kind of want to abandon the world and meditate
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Brian Craw - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:40:12 EST ID:D0AChHfo No.4827091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827010
That's a longer way of saying you're just another butthurt fedora.
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Cunt McPuntington - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:45:40 EST ID:ErVK/tu2 No.4827094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4827077
>some of the priests are messed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km5KXNZOwqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFi518-N5AM
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Hans McKiffer - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:57:17 EST ID:rEbFbYtP No.4827097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827091
You're a dumb bitch, I'd fuck you up cunt
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Martha Blythefoot - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:00:30 EST ID:lggWSnD7 No.4827098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826291

DEFINE GOD
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Brian Craw - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:02:43 EST ID:D0AChHfo No.4827100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826964
Point being I cannot take a person seriously who actually believes in that level of insane quackery while calling themselves enlightened by reason. I am not saying they're both the same groups, but things like trannyism require a religious level of sophistry and complete and utter rejection of science, except I can at least halfway respect certain elements of theology for boldly rejecting science altogether in favor of trying to have their own internally consistent logic system instead of dragging science through the mud. I find new age bullshit loathsome for similar reasons. Also I can at least understand how certain very dumb individuals can say something like evolution not being real and the earth being 6k years old, because no human is able to actually perceive with their 5 senses the process of 100 million years of time. On the other hand, I do not think that there is any person on earth who is literally so stupid that they can be presented with male genitalia and be unable to say, yes that is a male. It requires a greater degree of total rejection of logic, reason, facts, and just plain common sense in order to maintain those kinds of ideas than the rejection of geological evidence.
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Charles Bolton - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:04:16 EST ID:/RG64uk3 No.4827101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827097
You need Jesus
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Brian Craw - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:12:01 EST ID:D0AChHfo No.4827103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826297
I think you're confusing the idea of God with specific interpretations by men. If you're talking about some kind of transcendental inhuman intelligence or intelligences being tha causative factor behind the big bang, it's not quite so preposterous as it sounds. If you're talking about basically a person then yes that is obviously a blatant stupidity. I think this is again one of those areas where different groups of stupid people combine to discredit themselves and each other organically. You have very anthropocentric and dim witted materialist types who are the stereotypical Creationist, who simply seem to think things like heaven being a physical place. Then certain mediocre intellects see this and falsely assume that is all theology and metaphysics, aka the typical fedora who is usually completely ignorant and well.

I would say that the intellectual sin of both is egotism, vanity, and just general hubris. Both are making the same basic mistake of putting themselves at the center of the universe, or at minimum declaring themselves capable of rendering such judgments.
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Samuel Dinnerture - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:23:08 EST ID:Odh4Xtei No.4827106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826291
I don't like the way OP defines the terms; there's a higher burden of proof than we use for anything else; you can't be 100% certain that there isn't an invisible, pink unicorn in pic related, but I don't expect that you question whether random images have invisible pink unicorns hiding in them.
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Charles Bolton - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:30:37 EST ID:/RG64uk3 No.4827112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827106
>one seemingly absurd thing is not proven to exist
>therefore all things not proven to exist are absurd
thats the extent of spaghetti monster argument and its really dumb
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Nate Diaz - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:20:16 EST ID:G9Bpau6W No.4827161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827100
>if you are an atheist, then you also believe in manufactued unrelated bullshit i just made up and have a problem with

Got it; you're an imbecile
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Nate Diaz - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:23:14 EST ID:G9Bpau6W No.4827162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827112
>God is everything, even not-God. I'm so smart.
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Nate Diaz - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:27:54 EST ID:G9Bpau6W No.4827166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827103
>intelligence or intelligences being tha causative factor behind the big bang, it's..

Stop calling it god? It's a problematic term that your paragraphs of exposition clearly illustrate.
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Mr. Anderson - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 22:30:45 EST ID:uSaNejZ7 No.4827205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827173
That picture would be funny to me if I was still a smartassed 6th grader who desperately needs to be put in his place.
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Ben Dover - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 23:37:32 EST ID:1MeKT2Tr No.4827239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826592
Even though this could be worded a lot more diplomatically, I think there is some sense in this. Meditation is a powerful tool to understanding life, and I've yet to meet anyone who is a hardcore atheist that meditates. When you meditate you enter a different reality, a reality not rooted in the "logic and science defines everything" world that a lot of Westerners live in.
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Laura Longcock - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 00:54:47 EST ID:Odh4Xtei No.4827264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4827112
That's not the argument being made, I'm disagreeing with OP defining atheist and agnostic by their level of faith in the non-existence of god rather than how much they accept the existence of god.
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DavidSudgechud.grp - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 03:40:49 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4827305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827100
"Trannyism" is very easy to believe in. If you're full of convictions that it's the opposite, you're full of shit.

There's loads of affirmation from psychologists that it lets the subjects be drammatically more content. This is in spite of a long history of the psychological field seeking to neutralize it, and it being considerably off the beaten path for psychiatrists.

It's also similarly attested to as resulting in the afflicted changing and becoming considerably involved in society.

On the other hand, the opposition to it tends to give people profoundly sketchy impressions, leading to said opposition being generally inferred to be generally just opportunistic shennanigangs and petty hostility.

It's also known to be unique among concerns of psychology in being an issue that's blatantly called attention to by patients themselves, with highly atypical certainty, and this even extends to convictions about negating or disqualifying factors - in other words it's phenomenon characterized by a very detailed sense of it being a certain way by those involved, even to the point of self policing.

Also...

It serves as a bit of a pressure valve for general discontent with gender norms in society.

And...

It's driven by a long understanding that sex(particularly there where the defnintion of sex overlaps or is ambiguous with the definition of gender) functions essentially by means of hormones, and that switching from the one set of hormone levels to the other does switch sex, in a basic manner.
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DavidSudgechud.grp - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 07:11:40 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4827322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827239
>>4826592
Oh, adorable, you people want to defend the standard issue notion of "meditating" on the idea of being a despicable inconceivably wretched shit in comparison to those said to be above you, and on the though of some incomprehensible fluke have caused that vile wretchedness of yours having been oh-so-fortuidously overlooked, many times a day, especially before eating?
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Rival Edwin - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 10:27:13 EST ID:KmHigIxf No.4827351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4826291
Does "strong theist" mean, that you believe in the bible or such bullshit?
Considering it's the "Dawkins scale" i would assume so

I'm sure there's a god, because i experienced it myself, not through some book or stories told by other people.
Acid
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Nate Diaz - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 11:34:41 EST ID:G9Bpau6W No.4827384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow, who fucking knew this place was full of religious atheist bashers. The internet used to be enlightened, but i see we are back to the dark ages. Ad hominem attacks from fucking cowards
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Albert Hipps - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:41:01 EST ID:pOTy6aZp No.4827408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827322
I-is Netjeser posting under different names now?
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Ettore Boiardi - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:32:48 EST ID:6Gd/VMVb No.4827456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827351

LSD and the search for God.

God is you and I, and everything above and below the sky. Everything that ever was, and ever will be. Everything that is known, and everything that could never be known, they are god. God is life and death, sex and jokes, bombs and flowers, dirt and water. God is your thoughts and actions, and God is nothing.
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Nate Diaz - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:38:29 EST ID:G9Bpau6W No.4827457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827456
>God is everything, even not-God.
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Paul Goldsmith - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:49:31 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4827460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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god is irrelephant
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Kazooie - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:00:25 EST ID:wNh829Z6 No.4827466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827384
Religion is optional
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LillianMemmleham.rsc - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:20:50 EST ID:BPSjoa0U No.4827470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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definitely 4.

it's the only logical choice if you put your upbringing, culture, religious-mythos programming, human brain activity with regards to religious experiences with neurochemicals, and mathematics.

I've thought for a while that the universe is a novelty generator. it's set up in a such a way that if there were a god-scientist man, he could be surprised by what comes out of each universe...food for thought
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LillianMemmleham.rsc - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:23:12 EST ID:BPSjoa0U No.4827471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827384
420chan isn't the internet
I'd tell you to go to circlejerk for less mud-slinging, but that wouldn't make you happy either would it?
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GrahamPittingstone.bas - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:51:48 EST ID:Y9kDHsib No.4827477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm muslim but I don't think that my opinion fits anywhere on the scale. Before I continue, let me preface: I used to be an atheist in my teenage years, getting drunk every weekend, smoking weed, taking lsd, traveling the world when I was around 20 years old, leaving home to go to university, yadayada, you get the point: been there, done that.

I'm very pragmatic (used to be very idealistic, as you can imagine), I'm a believer because it is my heritage, my culture (not as important) and because religion enforces certain beneficial rules and behavior (important). And yes, religion certainly also has negative side effects, no doubt. We can and should work on minimizing the side effects, but I'm not throwing the whole thing away because of them unless the negative side effects start to outweigh the initial positive, desired effects.

That being said, I don't care whether my religion is true or not, not in the slightest. Apart from not being provable and therefore a meaningless question, truth is not what religion is about, for me at least. I just play along and reap the benefits (while also sacrificing other stuff, there are obvious tradeoffs, but imo they are worth it).

tl;dr I'm nowhere on the scale
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Voldo - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:01:32 EST ID:JO53ZZRL No.4827482 Ignore Report Quick Reply
im on the sacl(e idgaff in drink ona se hell
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Kazooie - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:13:37 EST ID:wNh829Z6 No.4827487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827470
Youre onto something. If there is a God, the only universe worth creating would be the one he cant simulate in his mind.
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Ettore Boiardi - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:38:52 EST ID:6Gd/VMVb No.4827495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827487

The universe exists because god was bored of his pedestal, then thrust outwards into individual, subjective experience, brought back again.

NOW WITH NOVELTY! HOMONCULUS TREMENDUM!
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DorisSidgebanks.svg - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 19:28:20 EST ID:Y6qX2zUk No.4827544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827477
You sound like my gf
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Prince Bubba - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 19:55:54 EST ID:cxpilczL No.4827548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827482

i agree with this guy.
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Officer Emma - Fri, 11 Jan 2019 23:45:44 EST ID:yUwOsz8/ No.4827606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4827487
What if simulating it in his mind is the only way to create the universe?
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Randy Couture - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:28:02 EST ID:BPSjoa0U No.4827627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827487
thank you i think it's really logical...i wonder if it's a novel thought :o
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Chan Sung Jung - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 01:31:48 EST ID:SFAhJ42h No.4827640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827487
Or trying to create the only truly sentient beings to alleviate loneliness floating in nothing for a span that exists beyond concepts of time, so split His own consciousness into fractal reality. The demiurge isn't necessarily a bad guy or is rather a necessary evil, the voice in your head that distracts you during a dream so you don't wake up in the middle of night in a panic. Most people have the cognition that maybe no one is real. Few have ever broken through to the realization "I don't exist".
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Basil Dollerham - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 04:10:33 EST ID:mMkCl1Mn No.4827671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826292
The argument of "you can't disprove God" is a shit argument in so many regards. Look up "Russell's Teapot." Here's another easy example: I have an imaginary friend which you cannot sense or observe in any way. Good luck disproving him. I demand empirical evidence to his lack of existence, by the way. Simply having no evidence to prove his existence won't suffice.

So guess what? My imaginary friend must exist then.
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Basil Dollerham - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 04:31:41 EST ID:mMkCl1Mn No.4827674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am a 6 and I think that should be the limit. Why? Because even the most atheist person out there isn't 100% certain there isn't a God and to be 100% certain would require a leap of faith, which would basically make them no different from religious people. People who became atheists just took in a bunch of evidence, or lack thereof, and reached a conclusion. That's basically the scientific method. Science is never really certain of anything. Science is just an attempt to explain things in a way we can comprehend so that way we can apply it to our lives. Our current theories for anything could be completely wrong. We would just need sufficient evidence of it being wrong. That's the difference between science and religion. Science demands empirical evidence in order for anyone to take your conclusion seriously. Religion doesn't really do the same. The majority is word of mouth and the other portion of it are historical events taken out of context due to the figurative nature of religious scriptures or because they didn't know any better at the time. The Red Tide possibly just being an algal bloom is a good example of this.

Science isn't and never will be an absolute. We could discover tomorrow the Earth is actually flat, but it would require lots of evidence and would have to play nice with how everything else works. Science doesn't say it isn't possible for the Earth to be flat. It just says "the evidence points to it not being flat, therefore, it more than likely isn't flat." On top of that, the Earth being flat would not play nice with how other things work. (According to science anyway.)
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William Lassell - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 04:52:55 EST ID:OISd2rtu No.4827684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I see religion like this:
You see a person walking down the street approaching you. He/She is having a thorough discussion with no one. It looks like they are talking to themselves and replying like they are actually talking to another person, which there isn't anyone anywhere near them. There is no bluetooth earpiece and mike on their head, eliminating it being a phone call. If you saw a person doing this, you would most likely walk way around them, thinking they were in some way schitzo, or in the least just mildly crazy.

So why would any rational person think seeing someone doing the exact same behavior en-masse with a hundred or more other people praying to an imaginary entity inside a religious building is any less insane?
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Kenneth Parcell - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 05:05:06 EST ID:N+cMTfl2 No.4827687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827674
6 is what God intended
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Chan Sung Jung - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 05:38:09 EST ID:SFAhJ42h No.4827694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827671
Except it's argument ab absurdum when the actual basis is "from whence came the universe and life on earth". We still don't know what the progenitor of the universe is and interestingly enough "and God said let there be light and there was light" after the whole formless and void thing parallels big bang theory. As for life on earth, we're still not entirely sure what made the jump from normal chemical processes to self replicating chemical processes and into life. And no
>hurr durr muh sky fairy
You're basically arguing against philosophy, which is what theology is. I respect fedoras as much as Creationists, that is to say, I think they are complete dumbfucks who probably should be prevented from breeding.
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Chan Sung Jung - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 05:43:34 EST ID:SFAhJ42h No.4827699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827684
It would involve questioning the premises of society itself, much of which is insane or stupid. I actually have very little to no respect for a wide array of fields and human endeavors for exactly that reason, including but not limited to corporate culture, the public school system, psychiatry, a good amount of the field of medicine (which is like advanced bloodletting with leaches for corporate benefit), politics, the entire field of law, the extra perverse mix of the worst of many fields in new age UFO cults, politics, fashion, a wider swath of the arts than I'd like, and trannyism along with religion. Much of the time I'm only humoring people. I actually have no respect for most of humanity whatsoever.
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Companion Cube - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 09:56:46 EST ID:TuNvkvaC No.4827748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827408
>>4827239
>>4826592
>meditation is soooooooo good according to my preshus theory
>that alone makes religion good
>inconceivable that other stuff would make religion bad
>what kind of disjointed freak would dare to actually look at the standard form of meditation as it constantly practiced all around us?
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Madame Mérigot - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 10:05:09 EST ID:JUc+6xnp No.4827750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827694
Don't get me wrong there's always a chance a god or other entity did it. But realistically what made god? Either the universe happened or god made the universe do the thing and happen. But then god had to happen out of nowhere. The same process occurring only now there has to be an entity complex enough to do it initiating the process. That makes god a more convoluted answer. Not impossible but definitely a less likely option. More stuff had to happen.

By the way if you've not read the god delusion and ever mean to I just saved you reading the first half of it. Second half has a cool bit about the trolley experiment and an isolated tribe and how their were the same as society. But yeah don't bother now. I got you.

Surely isn't theology just one approach to philosophy and honestly even then most of the time it's more like history to the practitioners? I know someone who studied it for a degree and she said it was mostly just learning about the stories which shape so many of our cultures and she found it fascinating. However she was almost alone, everyone studying it at that level aside from her wanted to be a priest of some religion or another. Doesn't sound particularly philosophical to me. Sounds more like sometimes it's anthropology and sometimes you just want to be better qualified so you can avoid being posted to craggy island.
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EmmaBlatherridge.cur - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 10:53:18 EST ID:lggWSnD7 No.4827768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
All of you need to read Atlantis, Alien visitation and Genetic Manipulation by Michael Tsarion

It basically cross references all the ancient religious and "mythological" historical texts to show that there was a genetic interference in our evololution and massive global cataclysms brought on by a war amoungst the gods and man's rebellion against them. We cant dismiss the global simularities in these ancient texts are mere fantasical coincidence, they are records of ancient histories history.
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Lauren Faust - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 12:01:33 EST ID:8eiVdslO No.4827790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this really highlights the narrow-mindedness of the general public, even the literate variety. god's not necessarily sentient or any distinct entity, you know. faith could be anything, it could just be revering the natural order.
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Caroline Drimbleshit - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 12:10:25 EST ID:/scf49jQ No.4827794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I’m a 1 because what has been seen cannot be unseen, once you have had your third eye forced open and witnessed the past, present and future of the celestial experience we call mankind pass by before you, closing your eyes and pretending nothing was real is an impossible task of self delusion
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Admiral Maxwell Forrest - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 12:13:59 EST ID:1L8XXaI9 No.4827796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827794
Come on man, you were really high that one time dont let it get to your head.
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Aida Mollenkamp - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 12:22:32 EST ID:tzXAxGfW No.4827797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827794
>what has been seen cannot be unseen, once you have had your third eye forced open
Just to be clear, you're talking about an acid trip and not a traumatic rape experience right?
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Aubrey Cottle - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 13:43:56 EST ID:9hybkfcO No.4827818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827797
Probably both. Trippers are creeps
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Jebediah Cuntpickle - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 13:56:51 EST ID:53VWnHxW No.4827824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827818
Where do you think you are?
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Triathlete Shitting - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 14:34:12 EST ID:zbQ2YKN5 No.4827837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827768
This is my favorite bs.
>hey guys look how incredibly stupid religion and particularly christianity is
>now let me spend 300 pages talking about alien gods interfering with our DNA while using the Bible as my primary reference
I mean pfft really?


>cross reference
There isn't even a ton of solid coherent evidence for the deluge dude and there is basically no evidence whatsoever for this.

You'd think we would have some kind of archeological evidence like say, buried synthetics, plastics, and alloys from their weapons and ammo, as well as all the supplies that goes into logistics. Basically when you get right down to it all these things are just really fucking retarded, faggy UFO cults attempting to supplant current ones as the dominant world religion. And to that I say, have fun with Heavens Gate and Scientology.
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Augustus Bubblelidge - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 14:43:07 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4827840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827837
>There isn't even a ton of solid coherent evidence for the deluge dude and there is basically no evidence whatsoever for this.
There's a lot of evidence that catastrophic floods happen sometimes and that stories get repeated, copied and changed slightly. So you can believe in weather and chinese whispers, or you can believe everything was orchestrated by a vast alien conspiracy for some reason. It's about a 50/50 chance it's one or the other, right?
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Alundra Blayze - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 00:41:11 EST ID:P8H+4nvP No.4827981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4827840
No. Only if you're a complete fucking idiot so you assume that. In fact few religions have an actual deluge story. My point is it is people trying to shoehorn their theories in and bending or outright fabricating facts to suit them. Yes, some areas were affected by flooding. It also makes sense when you account for the end of the ice age. But what I am saying is that there isnt really any solid evidence for a worldwide flood or even coherence to the idea that "everyone has a global flood myth" and most of this comes from the folly of universalism. For one thing, it actually aims to completely subvert and destroy all world religions, which you would only really want to do if you were trying to create a shitty global (probably oppressive and tyrannical) superstate, or are hopelessly naive.
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Abdullah the Butcher - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 03:56:08 EST ID:lCK65dpJ No.4828006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol why are atheists so aggressive and insulting? Its quite telling.
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Natasha Yar - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 11:10:19 EST ID:cACujmTF No.4828044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'd be a 5/6 but yeah, as others have said, this scale is a bit bogus.

Dawkins, as much as I respect him being a total hardass against leading religions (most of his ire is against Abrahamic), it's striking that he also dispels spirituality along with that. It's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But I know he realizes this. Controversy sells.

Spirituality need not be the existence of god. Many existentialists argue that "god" is a force or an equation or some abstract concept. You could argue that this is just as bad as theistic religion but it is not. It is organic and consistently challenged. Dawkins would be arguing that this is still anti-science, when it's him that's anti-philosophy.

I personally believe in Absurdism - transcendence and inner peace can only happen if you accept that there is no absolutes.
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Palace Maven Nigel - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 11:19:51 EST ID:aFpuy0UZ No.4828046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826291

God or no god, turns out we're all a bit faggy.
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ShittingHummerspear.ram - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:09:59 EST ID:olHduLCH No.4828082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828046
You can't prove the existence of a penis or testicles, and you can't disprove the existence of a penis or testicles. Believing either is making assumptions that we can't make reasonably. Therefore, traps are not gay.
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FuckDuckforth.o - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:25:49 EST ID:N2Hg3Iwy No.4828085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828046
I like looking at hot females and the female physique and I like seeming them get fucked by guys with big dicks, but I also find dicks themselves arousing without females. But I really don't care for males or find them "hot". But I've actually done gay shit like sucked cocks and get sucked. But I really didn't find it that exited and I pretty sure if it had been a hot female i've would have been much more exited.

Where would I fall on the kinsey scale?
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ShittingHummerspear.ram - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:49:37 EST ID:olHduLCH No.4828086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828085
prolly like a 2, dude
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Ensign Herbert - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:00:14 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4828087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828085
there's a google talk lecture thing about porn which i can't find right now but the relevant part of it was that they found men are aroused by signs of arousal. so even if you're not attracted to other men, seeing a hard dick gets you going presumably because that means it's time for the cave rape-orgy or something so you should get ready for the sloppy seconds. it's why futa is so popular. All the signs of fertility and all the signs of arousal tells your brain to prepare to get its fuck on.
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ShittingHummerspear.ram - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:05:24 EST ID:olHduLCH No.4828088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828087
Yeah, this guy is right. I watched a similar lecture, probably the same one. They said that men are most aroused by breasts, butts, feet, and throbbing hard cocks. I can't remember in what order, but those were the major four things. What they concluded is that men need to get aroused when other men are aroused in order to reproduce more effectively. Basically if a lady is receptive to gettin' dicked down, you're more likely to slide into them DM's and make a baby or whatever cool people are saying these days.

>>4828085
Also, I'm sorry I didn't address this earlier, but I'm obligated to call you a feggit cuz you admitted to sucking on peepee.
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FuckDuckforth.o - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:06:27 EST ID:N2Hg3Iwy No.4828089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828086
It kinda sucks, because once people find out that I've done gay shit I just get labelled as a "homosexual" and get made fun of for it.

I just want to have a jerk off buddy that I can watch heterosexual porn with while we both cuddle and cum on each other.
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Melissa d'Arabian - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:10:08 EST ID:1PXo1e69 No.4828091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828087
nice. that explains it. fuckin whew am i right guys. science is great, keeps me straight.
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Lillian Buffinglock - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:38:18 EST ID:ErVK/tu2 No.4828094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828086
You give that guy a 2? Really? You can suck cocks and still be considered predominantly hetero?

Geez, these are NOT the rules I was taught as a young man...
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FuckDuckforth.o - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:43:08 EST ID:N2Hg3Iwy No.4828096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828094
Then what's the point of kinsey scale if you actually get labelled a full faggot for actually experimenting with other men?
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Lillian Buffinglock - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:00:21 EST ID:ErVK/tu2 No.4828100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828096
I'm just saying, you seem more like a 5 to me. You've sucked cocks, you seem to want to suck more, or at least 'cuddle' and cum on men... the fact you watch heterosexual porn seems an incidental characteristic of your otherwise homosexual nature. I'm not knockin' it. I just think you ought to admit to yourself that you're leaning more gay than straight.
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FuckDuckforth.o - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:26:01 EST ID:N2Hg3Iwy No.4828112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828100
Me jacking off with some other guy just seems much more plausible and realistic than fucking a girl(due to social anxiety, fear of rejection so I never try and autism), the cut throat game of trying to get pussy is too hard and almost seems something that's impossible. The path of least resistance I guess applies to your sexual fantasies as well.

I'm not a virgin though... I fucked some middle aged broad and it was a scaring experience.

Also I think there was a period were I tried to make myself gay and not jack off to females, but after I did some gay shit and then came back to jacking off to females I'd feel this horrible depression feeling in my brain after cuming, because my brain was like "wtf have you done to yourself mate u've fucked up royaly and your sexuality will never recover". I actually would go out of my way not to cum when looking at females only instead just edged.
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Diego Armando - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:35:39 EST ID:/scf49jQ No.4828114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828100
Sexuality is about your preferences more than the situation you’re in, it seems pretty clear that this guy would rather be with a woman if he could but is too autistic and fucked up to have a relationship with one, and he’s only interested in a jerkoff buddy because he’s given up all hope.

That’s definitely a 2, like you wouldn’t call someone who had a girlfriend and went to prison for 3 years and got his cock sucked by a bitch for some cigarettes a few times on the inside and never was into dudes and got a girlfriend again after he got out as being not straight
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ShittingHummerspear.ram - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:34:52 EST ID:olHduLCH No.4828136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828112
>>4828114
I'm not gunna lie it's hard to tell if you guys are being serious with your answers or not.

But yeah, going by that scale, if the dude only sucked dicks a few times, but still predominantly chases women, and prefers women, then he'd probably be a 2 by that measure. Predominantly heterosexual, but with more than incidental homosexuality.

Think of him as, like, a quarter of a fag, if that makes it easier for you.
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SidneyCozzlesutch.xml - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:43:18 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4828139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thred is kinda hot
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Philly Jones - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:47:38 EST ID:FkEbCRDW No.4828141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826291
I consider myself neutral. unlike the racists on every point of your scale.

i occasionally do at the grocer or Bad Bed and beyond, the gym, etc. like to drop some sublte seed bombs.


>Soccery Mom or Frat Boy passing by?

>MY PHONE IS VIBRATIN!G?
HELLO?
WELL HOW CAN I KNOW IF REALLY VIBRATED YOU FUCKIN RETARD? How do you know your ringer even works you C U C C

so i play it cool, one minute im checking
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ShittingHummerspear.ram - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 18:02:58 EST ID:olHduLCH No.4828148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828139
ikr?
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Nell Nongerstotch - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 18:10:39 EST ID:521oeqCU No.4828151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
men are gross but dicks are h0t
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Species 8472 - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:04:57 EST ID:9hybkfcO No.4828153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4826291
dawkin's kale??
never even had kale but I'm sure his is just fine

anyone out there had kale before? I've considered it before but would rather just keep eating the usual broccoli and spinach. How does kale compare to other leafy greens?
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Helen Crampon - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:12:01 EST ID:w3/BkVun No.4828154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828153
Well, it's technically the same plant as broccoli.
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Bruce Buffer - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:12:21 EST ID:0lxnk0/5 No.4828155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828153

Kale is delicious if you enjoy your greens. It doesn't have a very strong flavor, and goes well with any normal salad materials or veggies. I just made a salad earlier with kale as the main ingredient, plus cubed apple, pumpkin seeds, blueberries, and feta cheese.

You can also make kale chips by tossing bits of kale in oil, spreading them on a baking sheet, baking it on 350 or so for a few minutes until they start to darken in the middle a bit and brown around the edges They taste really good lightly salted and peppered and have a strong crunch to them.
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Edwin Webbleham - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:12:59 EST ID:ErVK/tu2 No.4828156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828153
It's heterosexual, with more than incidental homosexual tendencies.
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Species 8472 - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:24:28 EST ID:9hybkfcO No.4828159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828156
oh fuck
its a gay plant?
i'm going to have to rethink kale
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Edwin Webbleham - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:40:05 EST ID:ErVK/tu2 No.4828166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828159
Well, every plant is inherently gay. It is an ineradicable survival characteristic. It doesn't mean that it is an effeminate or weak plant. Kale is a power food. But, as with anything else, it should be consumed in moderation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGc_L7_SyY
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Species 8472 - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:45:58 EST ID:9hybkfcO No.4828167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828166
soo....
it's like a power bottom or something?
still gay af my man
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Mike Chioda - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:49:27 EST ID:/scf49jQ No.4828169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828167
No, it’s more like a porn star that prefers to do straight videos but will take the occasional gay scene to pay the rent
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Species 8472 - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:53:21 EST ID:9hybkfcO No.4828170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4828169
Ahh, that makes sense. Gotta do whatcha gotta do eh?
Anyways, most people are partially bisexual. Men have seen a cock and thought it looked good and likewise for women with female parts.
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Edwin Webbleham - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:01:23 EST ID:ErVK/tu2 No.4828172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4828169
Exactly.

This guy gets it.


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