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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 10)
Meatless Monday Easter 2019 Ignore Report Reply
Scott Smith - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 09:19:46 EST /DC6FyrZ No.4841132
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Want protein? Eat beans and grains. Enjoy that instead of trying to make plant-based "meat". Go meatless !
I can't go full vegan cos I like eggs too much. I'm lactose-intolerant, so missing oput on cheese is fine by me.
Anthony Bourdain - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:04:19 EST n3iEjyHz No.4841140 Ignore Report Reply
yer a homo
CharlesTillingspear.wmf - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:51:06 EST EBI8DRQs No.4841145 Ignore Report Reply
I can't go full vegan because I like meat too much. I'm not lactose-intolerant so I'm not missing out on cheese either.
Pax - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:58:55 EST UZiMcq8W No.4841185 Ignore Report Reply
Seems like a bad idea if you mean to switch to veg full time. If it is out of concern for animal abuses, switch to grass-fed. Vegetarianism fucks up your hormones and leads to skinnyfatness but I could be wrong on this. Also keep in mind that plants feel pain as well and a plant based diet is not really any better for the environment considering all the fuels used shipping the stuff, soil depletion, etc.
One day is an incredibly short time to go vegetarian though, I regularly do that accidentally.
Lil' Timmy Bongsworth - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 15:33:15 EST v3qHbvuQ No.4841218 Ignore Report Reply
A lot of those taste surprisingly good though. Have you ever dated a vegan? You will try things no man thiught could taste good. Like summa them vegan deep fried fake chicken nugget things with bbq sauce holy shit that was good.
Lucas Lovely - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:11:35 EST VM9LKZdw No.4841357 Ignore Report Reply
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>everyone should be a vegetarian like me! if you're not exactly like me then you're bad
fuck off with the virtue signaling you sanctimonious, bossy, know-it-all.
JamesBivingmeck.xls - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:15:10 EST X/IdfrxP No.4841360 Ignore Report Reply
>"Nazi beans"
I don't even care if that's not true, that's what I'm calling them from now on.
James T Kirk - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:20:33 EST 5FRzVfRp No.4841365 Ignore Report Reply
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>anyone who isn't a nihilistic kiddie with no moral values like me is virtue signaling reeee
Allison Wonderland - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:26:21 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4841366 Ignore Report Reply
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Lucas Lovely - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 23:22:45 EST VM9LKZdw No.4841404 Ignore Report Reply
>meat is destroying the environment so i'm going to eat it 6 days out 7 seven
>i'm a saint! everyone owes me bigtime now!
ShittingBrindermetch.psp - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 23:27:53 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4841406 Ignore Report Reply
just stop eating and kill people
Subcommander T'Rul - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 23:28:40 EST li968klp No.4841407 Ignore Report Reply
more important than any token lifestyle changes while still living a modern lifestyle is trying to minimize your consumption and produce as much as you physically can of what you do consume yourself

like just stop buying things fucking seriously
ShittingBrindermetch.psp - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 23:36:56 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4841417 Ignore Report Reply
I wonder if it's possible for all humans to individually sustain themselves with minimal environmental impact? Like we all keep our own gardens and filter our own water and somehow that works on a mass scale of billions. I suppose it could work, wtf do I know
HannahWemmlegold.ds - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:30:08 EST /DC6FyrZ No.4841571 Ignore Report Reply
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Problem is not enough people are even *TRYING* it
Basil Drabblestock - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:56:35 EST jf+M45j5 No.4841608 Ignore Report Reply

People can't even maintain proper diets by themselves and you expect them to take care of all their own needs? I bet half of them would accidentally give themselves scurvy.
Imahoe Dickweed - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 14:35:03 EST R9TB/QmX No.4841651 Ignore Report Reply
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mmm is that some new masamume shirow????
Allison Wonderland - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:22:26 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4841658 Ignore Report Reply
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HOLY SHIT what a fantastic idea this just gave me! Do you think we can convince poltards that lemons, oranges, etc are "the Jewish fruit" used to sap them of their precious Aryan vigor and that scurvy is the white man's power? No seriously, I think I might be onto something here
Shiney McShine - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:29:21 EST T5WQ2mbi No.4841679 Ignore Report Reply
you could definitely try!
HannahWemmlegold.ds - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:43:45 EST /DC6FyrZ No.4841713 Ignore Report Reply
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Yes. He does 2 page splashes in an ero-magazine called Comic Anthurium (japanese).
Imahoe Dickweed - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:48:02 EST R9TB/QmX No.4841715 Ignore Report Reply
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i used to bust a nut to that kind of erohon in my 20s mmm i miss dem days and curry pan
Fred Whipple - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 03:50:57 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4841899 Ignore Report Reply
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Are you missing the point?
Or just pissing on the point?
Paula Deen - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 05:24:31 EST T5WQ2mbi No.4841913 Ignore Report Reply
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I'm passing the joint
Fred Whipple - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 06:22:22 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4841930 Ignore Report Reply
your fasting, you anoint!
Michael Bisping - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:16:36 EST GZP+3fzX No.4841957 Ignore Report Reply
I haven't had some meat since I had some macdonlad like a couple of weeks ago (if that was real meat). I just had some eggs though.
Parasol Lady Basil - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:30:17 EST LkkyNueO No.4841964 Ignore Report Reply
uh no man it wasnt real meat
Mikey - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:32:54 EST nJkrco7e No.4841965 Ignore Report Reply
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Jim Cornette - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:27:38 EST 3MEGQ7k4 No.4842073 Ignore Report Reply
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The fuck did you just say to me?
Julius Eaton - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:50:58 EST ULUZkSqO No.4842193 Ignore Report Reply
It's true that beans and grains do have a good amount of protein (and also importantly, a lot of fiber) in them, but they're also full of carbs. The primary benefit to lean meat and fish-based proteins is that they're full of proteins and low in fat and low in carbs.
Renzo Gracie - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 17:43:39 EST gwaIuynJ No.4842239 Ignore Report Reply
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Dahl Bhat Power 24-Hour. I've been on some peace-loving Nepalese shit for the last couple of years and it feels great, but I murder wildlife every now and then to supplement it. Eating meat isn't a problem, but factory farming is awful. There's heaps of delicious animals out there that are introduced species / environmental pests / ugly things without souls
Michael Bisping - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:00:51 EST GZP+3fzX No.4842252 Ignore Report Reply
do you eat bowls of fireants or something?
Arlen Hashbottom - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:08:44 EST xgp/qVzR No.4842255 Ignore Report Reply
Holy fuck that looks tasty.
Renzo Gracie - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:14:35 EST gwaIuynJ No.4842260 Ignore Report Reply

I used to eat ants as a kid, but nah. Mostly venison, rabbit, goat, duck, catfish. Snakes and toads if you want to get adventurous. Deep-fried crickets are pretty good. I've been following a few bakeries that have been experimenting with cricketmeal, which is some pretty cool future-food shit, like protein dense wholemeal bread made from ground up insects
Emma Fizzleway - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:21:49 EST b+U+BiFW No.4842262 Ignore Report Reply
Sometimes I think about murdering my own food, but I don't have the freezer space to keep a whole deer. Also, I used to be a taxidermist and the kind of hunters I'd meet were racist inbred yokel shitheads, that experience kind of soured me on hunters and hunting culture in general.
Commandant Mele-on Grayza - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:34:05 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4842270 Ignore Report Reply
I smiled and chuckled, thanks for that
Silas Skullfuck - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:35:57 EST Xuma1IrN No.4842271 Ignore Report Reply
is it ok to eat semen if it's consensual?
Rocker Barnaby - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:40:56 EST w3/BkVun No.4842272 Ignore Report Reply
Beating the meat ≠ Eating the meat
We jerk off animals all the time for artificial insemination, why would it be any worse if you slurp some of it?
Commandant Mele-on Grayza - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:41:39 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4842274 Ignore Report Reply
eating semen is mandatory, consensual or not. get out there and suck up that semen, you gotta separate the pee-pee from the wah-wah at exactly the point of ejaculation, holding both parties apart with you semen-powered superhuman strength, while you hoover up that delicious creamy off-white load.
Commandant Mele-on Grayza - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:46:30 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4842277 Ignore Report Reply
then you jump out the window into the night like an even gayer batman
Godiva - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:24:15 EST Bl25ljTP No.4842435 Ignore Report Reply
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I use butter, eggs and milk. Yeah
Super Nerd Rebecca - Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:04:21 EST HNQ+U7Rf No.4843129 Ignore Report Reply
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Food, glorious food.
Phineas Hazzlepune - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 04:04:45 EST HNQ+U7Rf No.4843494 Ignore Report Reply
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Get some pork on your fork
D-Ray 3000 - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 04:17:27 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4843496 Ignore Report Reply
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Of course they're on the side of saints! How else do you want them to be getting their protein? Lupini bens? You expect them to go through the neccessary preparation of boiling those like 5 times over? Nope, that ain't gonna happen!

So, what could you expect of them? Immerse those beans in a running stream to detoxify them? Like the bloddy romans?!?!?! The people that crucify those who aren't in line with them? See, so they're on the un-roman side, so indeed they are the crucifixee instead of the crucifyer!
Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:15:58 EST R9TB/QmX No.4843524 Ignore Report Reply
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Let's gangbang Chun Li to piss of the Chinese bots
Caroline Cattinghark - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:21:10 EST QLTOtYac No.4843527 Ignore Report Reply
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Throw some veg in your wedge
Balls McGee - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 11:27:54 EST Sx6d8fdR No.4843544 Ignore Report Reply
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 11:48:21 EST R9TB/QmX No.4843551 Ignore Report Reply
毛是对的。 回到毛主义,他妈的,法轮功,他妈的三合会,他妈的中共,把它烧掉,用正义代替它。
Bob Armstrong - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 12:14:30 EST WxZBo+uF No.4843565 Ignore Report Reply
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Balls McGee - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 12:19:00 EST Sx6d8fdR No.4843572 Ignore Report Reply
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 12:48:11 EST R9TB/QmX No.4843582 Ignore Report Reply
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I'm lacrosse intolerant, guys, how do I stay safe around trust fund babies?
Kratos - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 14:44:54 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4843649 Ignore Report Reply
Jesus that sounds like so Russian a mentality
Also now I want egg nog
Anton Weirdfeatures - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 23:21:06 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4843812 Ignore Report Reply
Oh, boohoo, you want egg nog? And you know what? I want egg nog! And I don't have any milk! Of course, I could just try and replace it with coconut water, but ... I don't have any vanilla either. Or allspice. At least no preground allspice.
Fanny Grandbanks - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 04:24:50 EST T5WQ2mbi No.4843865 Ignore Report Reply
yeah that's russian as fuck man
Troisgros family - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:05:50 EST mAzOaciP No.4843997 Ignore Report Reply
yeah that's chinese as fbitch man
ClaraConningway.dll - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:11:30 EST R9TB/QmX No.4844002 Ignore Report Reply
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Russians love the word "saint," especially when they're referring to a person doing clownish, self-deprecating humor, anybody feel the same way?
Troisgros family - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:16:12 EST mAzOaciP No.4844009 Ignore Report Reply
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...Well there was a dead cat in the bucket of vodka, and I'm not saint.

So she walks in and I'm wringing it out saying, please pussy, one more drop.
ClaraConningway.dll - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:27:55 EST R9TB/QmX No.4844022 Ignore Report Reply
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*laughs in Russian*
Nicholas Hemblefine - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 17:36:52 EST ZI1K6Ap2 No.4844129 Ignore Report Reply
What's with all the vegetarian/vegan shilling on 420chan the past year or so? I was vegetarian for 10 years. I'm happy I was, I'm even happier I decided to stop. Nobody gives a fuck if you're vegetarian. Telling people "go vegan!" isn't going to make anyone "go vegan!". In my hometown I've started seeing all these bullshit fucking ads and posters everywhere with "go vegan!" and the usual meat is murder, they trust us we butcher them etc etc blah blah faggot slogans.

If a billion people tomorrow went vegan nothing would change. The world and the environment would still be fucked. Eating less, more ethical meat is the answer (not to global warming, but the meat question in general) NOT completely cutting it out of our lives.
Cyril Figgis - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 17:42:52 EST 7p+ucmg1 No.4844131 Ignore Report Reply
Rice and beans everyday son.
Hannah Marrystock - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:07:52 EST WfHIQjQX No.4844146 Ignore Report Reply
I had some pot roast and roast chicken yesterday
omelette du fromage today

eat that meat bro it's good for you
Lysia Arlin - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:41:29 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4844238 Ignore Report Reply
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If a billion people went vegan tomorrow, the price of oil and gas would plummet. If that doesn't get the message through, then in simpler terms, other places in the world could be as awesome as Venezuela.

No, wait, maybe not ... but it still would be possible for many more people to embrace SUVs, as one effect would still be environmentally cancelling out the other.
Galactic Boss George - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:09:41 EST dsDRA5Dc No.4844245 Ignore Report Reply

>the price of oil and gas would plummet

Probably not, given that the price of crude oil is very blatantly manipulated.

The price of crude oil is basically completely controlled by a small handful of saudis, and vladimir putin.
Sofia Lamb - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:15:24 EST QLTOtYac No.4844248 Ignore Report Reply
Ahah. Hahahahaha
Meat is good for you.
That's glorious.
Lysia Arlin - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 00:14:04 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4844270 Ignore Report Reply
It still couldn't ignore competition. With all those fields neccessary to feed all that livestock freed up, there'd be much more room for biodiesel. Even some corn and cassava used as fodder could be automatically repurposed for automotive ethanol and butanol. Then, fields could also be repurposed for sugarcane and switchgrass. And things like sunflowers would be aggressively genetically modified to produce way more oil, and not even just for diesel's sake, but the problem would be charged much more promptly for the sake of churning out far more margarine. Oh yeah, and there'd be a ton of genetic engineering done to produce aviation-kerosene replacement biofuels, and inventions for making those would be getting applied to biodiesel as well.
Gordon Ramsay - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 03:59:57 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4844324 Ignore Report Reply
And Maduroz hence why the US has such a hard on for fucking over that country by any means necessary
Alain Ducasse - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 05:48:11 EST HNQ+U7Rf No.4844349 Ignore Report Reply
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mfw it's actually a real website
Lysia Arlin - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:30:23 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4844365 Ignore Report Reply
I'm sure Milkless Mondays is a thing somewhere too, along with Vegan Vednesdays, Soyful Saturdays, Moo-less May and Lupin Leap-years.
Lysia Arlin - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:41:22 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4844367 Ignore Report Reply
And who's right outside his door? Brazil, with their endless fields of sugarcane for biogassoline; I don't know if they're growing oil palms, not so much for biodiesel as for aviation fuel, though I doubt it as that seems too forward or even experimental, but still, it's not like contries that the US is threatened by is that limited.
Grace Park - Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:09:59 EST HGwITWea No.4844370 Ignore Report Reply
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Lupin Leap Years? But.. leap years happen every 4 years.. Lupin the III.. 4 years..

Aubrey Cottle - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 00:07:18 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4844672 Ignore Report Reply
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FOUR lights is TRUTH! Ignorance of the fourth light DOES NOT nullify the DESTRUCTIVE WRONGNESS of the con-artistic IDIOCY of belief in only three lights!

You are EDUCATED STUPID to believe in three lights, when it's CLEAR to anyone with a complete CUBIC BRAIN that there are four lights simultaneously rotating to give you the FULL COLOR SPECTRUM!

In 1984, viewsonic light personnel met
in Redmond, Washington to change Earth light.
First words said was that only 3 lights
could be used on Earth to not change
the 3 light projection. So they applied the 3
lights and ignored the other 1 light.
Technicolor was wrong then and it
proved wrong today.

REPENT of the falsehood of three lights and EMBRACE the truth of THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
T'Les - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 00:19:28 EST 8ZEiwajI No.4844677 Ignore Report Reply
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Aubrey Cottle - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 00:45:09 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4844686 Ignore Report Reply
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Academic BASTARDS of Cardassia seek to enslave you with three light theory together with the Cardassian military.

Television has 1 light even if it is off, and four lights in rotation!

The Federation seeks to BLIND YOU by only teaching you of the Vulcan, Human and Denobulan lights! THiS makes so absolutely zero sense, that those PREACHING it can expect to be shot. In the world of opposites, three lights is PAINFULLY WRONG and even a CHILD can get that four lights are truth! As the day turns, there is a Human light on the hemisphere opposite of the Vulcan light. But there is also a Cardassian light on one hemisphere when a Denobulan light is on the other hemisphere!
Captain Rudolph Ransom - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 01:36:50 EST dsaotJya No.4844687 Ignore Report Reply
I'm glad i'm not the only one who remembers your picture

Every since I seen it, it's been really bugging me. From my understanding human being can only see three colors. Red, Green and Blue. A dog can only see two colors and there are like butterflies or something that can see a ton.

The human brain can't even imagine more than three colors
Josh Koscheck - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 05:44:29 EST HFHUv8bS No.4844706 Ignore Report Reply

Each eyeball sees in three colors, one of those three colors being different for each eye. Thus we see with four colors when both images are combined in the occipital lobe
Josh Koscheck - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 06:18:21 EST HFHUv8bS No.4844709 Ignore Report Reply

To clarify, one eye sees with RGB, while the other sees the RYB.
Aubrey Cottle - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 06:51:34 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4844712 Ignore Report Reply
My understanding has been that it's like a flipside to Red-Green colorblindness. Whereas some males, and very rarely females, can only see two colors, there might be a fourth color receptor expressed occasionally, and more commoly in females.
Sounds a little far fetched. Although it would be more believable for the fundamental wavelength for the third rod or cone could be just a little shifted between the eyes, like green on one, and just mildly yellowish on the other.

But, y'all know, companies would be willing to sell you anything as long as they can make it sensible on paper. I bet they've been looking into adding violet subpixels on the basis that it's such an extreme wavelenght and as a result violet light would supposedly behave differently than a combination of red and blue. And that way they could try selling four or five color screens.

It's funny that they never tried this with CRTs, it would have made very solid sense with *penetrons*.
Jack Bigglenadge - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 06:56:31 EST xIvA5Qzu No.4844713 Ignore Report Reply
That's complete BS.

If what you said were true your perception of colour would change if closed one eye.

And to state that humans only see three colours is a gross oversimplification.
Sidney Fullerfack - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 07:38:58 EST ULUZkSqO No.4844717 Ignore Report Reply
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This is one of those things that people get really confused about because nobody tries to perform a full explanation about it...

So the human eye color (cone) sensing cells are most sensitive to red, green, and blue light, however they're not *exclusively* sensitive to these colors. As you can see in this graph (which uses the more scientific "short", "medium", and "long" notation, which is in reference to the wavelengths they are most sensitive to, not the physical size of each cone cell) that each of the sensitivities has a bell-curve shaped falloff. It is because of this falloff that humans are able to see more than just three colors by interpreting the different percentages of each cone cell's sensitivity as different distinct colors.

The reason why yellow LED's are useful in TV's and monitors is more to do with the rod cells in your eyes picking up on differences in brightness than to do with the cone cells in your eyes picking up on differences in chromaticity (which they simply calibrate away by having the "added yellowness" be balanced out by the other colors).
Gul Darhe'el - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:29:19 EST PUUaSbDP No.4844971 Ignore Report Reply
I see dead colors
Michel Guérard - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:54:11 EST cxpilczL No.4844990 Ignore Report Reply

this is wrong
Cornelius Senderfot - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 19:16:44 EST QLTOtYac No.4845003 Ignore Report Reply
Nice rebuttal
Sidney Fullerfack - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 19:59:41 EST ULUZkSqO No.4845025 Ignore Report Reply
Are you talking about so-called "imaginary colors"?
Ebisumaru - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 20:10:36 EST +iloLZ51 No.4845031 Ignore Report Reply
Don’t eat eggs either go full vegan trust me. You are creating more problems with your cholesterol this way in the future ime. Also, what are some good vegan options for cholestrol intake? Srs question
Arno Penzias - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 21:55:35 EST jMLKnJo/ No.4845073 Ignore Report Reply
it's literally only mushrooms in that case because cholesterol isn't needed for autotrophs
Derrick Bateman - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 22:00:45 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4845076 Ignore Report Reply
Avacado. I actually eat them for exactly the sorts of reasons you described. Also apparently alcoholism wrecks the shit out of your cholesterol as well, and I'm sure eating tons of dry sausages like a decade ago didn't help. I used that stuff in absolutely everything and it was terrible. I could feel pig fat oozing out of every poor, but still I threw it in scrambled eggs, pasta, on pizza, everywhere, salami, soprasatta. Then I stopped that and the bacon and went veg. I feel better, but a lot of my health is still wrecked from living as unhealthily as you possibly can without straight up mainlining drugs and barebacking random dudes in seedy bar bathrooms. So at least I don't have AIDS. But now I eat avacado every single week because I have the cholesterol of an obese chain smoking 70 year old. Amazingly it actually works too. Last I checked I already floored my LDL down to something way lower like 150.
Thomas Riker - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 23:20:45 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4845134 Ignore Report Reply
I feel like we should be eating more fungus and more variety of fungi. That shit is just weird and special or something, and I don't know what's going on with it.
Ebenezer Clayman - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 23:25:45 EST ZJQFhdnI No.4845139 Ignore Report Reply
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das it mane
GeorgeWannertog.rm - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 23:38:50 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4845149 Ignore Report Reply
Right, as if there aren't now separated egg whites being sold with no cholesterol anyway.

Go ahead, and make sure you don't eat any fungus or you'll have nasty fungul infections, don't eat barley or grapes or you'll end up with alcohol brewing inside you, don't eat buckwheat or anything that flowers or bees will swarm you and pick necktar out of you, and consume any liquid oils, at least nothing less saturated than palm or your adipose tissue will become liquid and flow freely throughout your whole body.
Pierre Cubat - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 23:41:09 EST FDE0E/eN No.4845153 Ignore Report Reply
I'm gonna keep enjoying delicious burgers, steak, chicken and fish. Thanks though!
Thomas Riker - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 23:43:45 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4845157 Ignore Report Reply
Yeah right until you eat em all, you big fatso. How can you eat a whole cow? Wtf carnivores, you wouldn't download a steak
Admiral Hayes - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 23:45:04 EST eikwddJn No.4845163 Ignore Report Reply
But my stomach produces HCl and I have to keep the deer population in check as part of conservation efforts. Don't you care about the enviornment OP? Especially a quick swift humane death instead of death by thirst/hunger/being fucking eaten alive?
GeorgeWannertog.rm - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:28:52 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4845207 Ignore Report Reply
Bah. You talk a big game, but that's just code for that you're going to have your mommy bring you "flaked light tuna" and fish sticks. You'd never touch any serious fish like marlin, swordfish or bass. Hell, you wouldn't even touch real albacore tuna, canboi!
Admiral Hayes - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:29:56 EST eikwddJn No.4845208 Ignore Report Reply
>marlin, swordfish
they're fun but they taste like shit
Hoshi Sato - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:31:09 EST OpFXGjt6 No.4845209 Ignore Report Reply
Gopnik you figured it out. Free lada for you now go fuck some boipussy and drink yer daily bottle of vodka
Ebenezer Clayman - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:31:25 EST ZJQFhdnI No.4845210 Ignore Report Reply
>taste like shit
Admiral Hayes - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:34:55 EST eikwddJn No.4845211 Ignore Report Reply
>the world could be as awesome as Venezuela
>suddenly Venezuela becomes a socialist utopia because everyone goes vegan
Admiral Hayes - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:36:26 EST eikwddJn No.4845213 Ignore Report Reply
No its true, they're way too fucking oily. Swordfish and mah mahi in particular I fucking hate, they taste like shark to me. I detest cooked salmon too, raw or smoked only, which I love. Bluefin tune or chilean seabass are the patrician choice, maybe some sort of cod or king mackrel if you're a peasant
Officer Tenpenny - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:40:22 EST qvmqeoNM No.4845218 Ignore Report Reply
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Gummy shark is delicious my dude.

Swordfish, eh, gets parasites tweezers and I'd rather eat eel.

Want to know a shitty fish that you better learn to enjoy?

Thomas Riker - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:40:25 EST cPXG5bP/ No.4845219 Ignore Report Reply
I'll eat any of them goddamn fish Admiral
Arno Penzias - Wed, 01 May 2019 00:40:30 EST jMLKnJo/ No.4845220 Ignore Report Reply
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oily is good dude
GeorgeWannertog.rm - Wed, 01 May 2019 01:11:23 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4845253 Ignore Report Reply
Exactly! If all that land that's squandered with meat production was instead used for biofuels, then with the more proper gas prices, there'd be much less incentive for scalpers to smuggle gasoline out of Venezuela, not only bringing everyone else one step closer to driving Hummers, but bringing Venezuella an extra step closer to it!
Shitty McCockerson - Wed, 01 May 2019 01:35:48 EST R9TB/QmX No.4845275 Ignore Report Reply
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Favorite veggie recipe is top ramen or similar product with fresh veggies thrown in
Noodles are sub-par but still ok
When it boils you also throw in raw eggs
Shit is great high
Derrick Bateman - Wed, 01 May 2019 01:38:25 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4845279 Ignore Report Reply
> not only bringing everyone else one step closer to driving Hummers
What kind of dick compensating fuckup would even think to want this? How the hell is that a goal for anyone, ever?
Ebenezer Clayman - Wed, 01 May 2019 01:52:23 EST ZJQFhdnI No.4845293 Ignore Report Reply
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Hummers are so passe. It's all about LIFT
GeorgeWannertog.rm - Wed, 01 May 2019 02:11:45 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4845307 Ignore Report Reply
It doesn't *have* to be hummers. It can be muscle cars(like they appreciate in Cuba), V12s, speedboats or minivan-limos. Spitting and scoffing at Venezuela doesn't and won't eliminate their success in having facilitated such options.
Shitty McCockerson - Wed, 01 May 2019 02:14:25 EST R9TB/QmX No.4845309 Ignore Report Reply
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Did someone say..... HUMMERS?????
Shitty McCockerson - Wed, 01 May 2019 02:15:41 EST R9TB/QmX No.4845310 Ignore Report Reply
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Ebisumaru - Wed, 01 May 2019 02:34:51 EST +iloLZ51 No.4845327 Ignore Report Reply
hot af
PollyHizzlemot.wsz - Wed, 01 May 2019 02:43:47 EST SLF70Rlv No.4845335 Ignore Report Reply
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>I detest cooked salmon too

Get a load of this motherfuckering motherfucker.
Shitty McCockerson - Wed, 01 May 2019 02:45:10 EST R9TB/QmX No.4845336 Ignore Report Reply
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John Bahcall - Wed, 01 May 2019 04:17:07 EST HGwITWea No.4845356 Ignore Report Reply

Wait is smoked salmon not technically cooked? Share your education and/or enthusiasm with me
Konnan - Wed, 01 May 2019 04:24:17 EST PUUaSbDP No.4845359 Ignore Report Reply
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smoked is cooking it...
John Bahcall - Wed, 01 May 2019 05:14:46 EST HGwITWea No.4845363 Ignore Report Reply
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Thank you. I believed my world was about to up-end itself in my a-hole.
Officer Tenpenny - Wed, 01 May 2019 05:29:45 EST qvmqeoNM No.4845364 Ignore Report Reply

cold smoked cures it and hot smoked cooks and denatures the proteins.

both are technically cooking, as is slicing up a carrot. to have something cooked means only that it has been prepared. has it been heated? that's a different question.

cold smoked salmon reaches an internal temperature of 85c (uh ~140f ish) where hot smoked goes past 100c (boiling).
GeorgeWannertog.rm - Wed, 01 May 2019 06:47:50 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4845373 Ignore Report Reply
Does that have anything to do with being connoisseurs of piss-cheap gasoline?


Seriously, you'd think somebody would take note of the insanely low gasoline prices in Venezuela and recognize how absurd that is, if only from an environmenal angle.
Maestro Martino - Wed, 01 May 2019 10:12:29 EST pQ0zVWp1 No.4845414 Ignore Report Reply
No, cooking involves caused chemical and physical change to the food you are prepared, while it doesn’t 100% of the time rely on heating it’s damn near close and something like chopping a carrot or preparing a salad where there is no such process occurring is not cooking.

Ever hear of a raw food diet? That means no cooking, they aren’t munching whole carrots straight out of the ground they eat salad and chopped vegetables there’s no heating so it’s not actually cooked.

An exception of cooking without using heat would be like making lutefisk where the lye dissolves the fish without heating, it’s very rare and by practical conditions cooking = heat,
Officer Tenpenny - Wed, 01 May 2019 10:31:53 EST qvmqeoNM No.4845418 Ignore Report Reply

while I disagree with your statements, it does remind me of a joke?

What do you call a vegan that can't cook?

A raw vegan
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Wed, 01 May 2019 11:36:01 EST 8XpazFcs No.4845424 Report Reply
How can you disagree? Did he even say anything that's an opinion in that post?
Officer Tenpenny - Thu, 02 May 2019 05:17:37 EST PUUaSbDP No.4845781 Ignore Report Reply
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Maria Kuzmina can't build muscle on a vegan diet.
Sidney Pablingkore - Thu, 02 May 2019 08:01:44 EST CmhaK7mO No.4845815 Ignore Report Reply
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Cooking I would argue, is the act of making bioavailable more nutrients than would otherwise be accessible through digestion.

Juicing, while not heating (more than friction of the blades), produces a product that is prepared, but has not been biochemically altered, but instead, physically altered.

Fermentation alters the base structure of a product through microbial digestion, dehydration and fats denaturing over time. This is not heating, though some digestive processes are exothermic.

Anyway, simpler and more accessible. I define cooking as any preparation of food for consumption. So yeah, cutting a carrot up is cooking.

If you're relying on fad diet folks and vegans (they are different promise), for your cooking definitions and advice, I would suggest looking elsewhere.
Dhalsim - Thu, 02 May 2019 08:20:11 EST nJkrco7e No.4845820 Ignore Report Reply
>Cooking I would argue, is the act of making bioavailable more nutrients than would otherwise be accessible through digestion.
It doesn't really make more nutrients available in most cases but instead it means you use up fewer resources in the process of digesting. The value of the lootboxes doesn't go up, it's just cheaper to open them. Which is a net positive.
Sidney Pablingkore - Thu, 02 May 2019 09:23:09 EST CmhaK7mO No.4845834 Ignore Report Reply


In some cases, it makes it easier to obtain nutrients, in other cases it would not be possible to obtain nutrients. The poo keeps flowing whether you're done digesting it or not.
Dhalsim - Thu, 02 May 2019 09:24:31 EST nJkrco7e No.4845836 Ignore Report Reply
Maybe my saying "in most cases" overstates it but yes we are in agreement.
Jogger Lillian - Thu, 02 May 2019 18:33:21 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4846044 Ignore Report Reply
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Why the hell is this even being argued. Did none of you guys take intro to anthro 101 or something? It's been largely accepted that the theorized path of our evolution involved switching to the extremely resource heavy human brain partly achieved through freeing up more nutrients via cooking, especially because you can't fucking digest plant cellulose and humans are not great at digesting raw flesh unlike say felines so you get more bang for your buck and more immediate bang at that. Simply becoming upright beings with these big ass heads and huge resource intense brains involved a wide variety of evolutionary adaptations, some of which absolutely required better access to energy and nutrient stores in food. Cooking is something that allows us to better absorb whatever we're eating much more efficiently because it helps break down cellular walls.
Primordial Serpent Kingseeker Frampt - Thu, 02 May 2019 19:21:17 EST L17z25jE No.4846065 Ignore Report Reply
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i always thought Vtec referred to the Virginia Tech massacre; and the meme "vtec just kicked in yo" meant that somebody just went fucking postal
Joe Son - Thu, 02 May 2019 19:27:01 EST iHCgV5cJ No.4846070 Ignore Report Reply
since when the fuck has virginia tech ever been referred to as vtec? vtec is a variable valve timing system Honda developed in the early 90's. I think the first production car to have it was the NSX. it basically adjusts the timing past a certain RPM for either performance or more commonly fuel economy. timing is just how it sounds, its the timing of the valves of the motor that are responsible for air intake and exhaust output. adjusting these can effect the performance. I'm going off on a tangent because I can. black people cant walk on the moon. banana bread is a conspiracy. all is lost, seek shelter.
PollySerryfudge.tga - Thu, 02 May 2019 19:36:06 EST jMLKnJo/ No.4846076 Ignore Report Reply
"vtec just kicked in yo" ancient /o/ meme sacastically mocking import car ricers
"Vtech just kicked in yo" small meme about Cho's massacre (although Humanity is Overrated is probably the definitive meme of that event)
Phineas Grimway - Thu, 02 May 2019 19:37:11 EST ZJQFhdnI No.4846077 Ignore Report Reply
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>since when the fuck has virginia tech ever been referred to as vtec?
Since 2007. Shortly after the shooting it was pretty common to see pic related captioned with "VTEC Just Kicked In Yo"
Joe Son - Thu, 02 May 2019 19:39:50 EST iHCgV5cJ No.4846078 Ignore Report Reply
ah I almost forgot about that, that was very short lived.
Gerard Kuiper - Fri, 03 May 2019 00:39:28 EST WKRhLTe0 No.4846179 Ignore Report Reply
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Haze Smokestack - Fri, 03 May 2019 08:11:20 EST PUUaSbDP No.4846323 Ignore Report Reply
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That's nice, sweetie
Youngblood - Sat, 04 May 2019 02:32:29 EST PUUaSbDP No.4846633 Ignore Report Reply
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53,606 people recommend grains for gains and beans for teens.
Verne Gagne - Sat, 04 May 2019 05:26:05 EST LsNkFStg No.4846646 Ignore Report Reply
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Jan Hendrik Oort - Sat, 04 May 2019 06:32:14 EST CGovFISC No.4846650 Ignore Report Reply
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Candy Prolapse - Sat, 04 May 2019 09:01:46 EST 5FRzVfRp No.4846664 Ignore Report Reply
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Ejaculation? Do girls nut? Like, do they shoot goo from their vagoos?
Marco Pierre White - Sat, 04 May 2019 09:58:36 EST gOy+QbUr No.4846670 Ignore Report Reply
Yeah bro, they inseminate themselves and men are completely redundant the future is now and everything stefan molyneux ever said is true!!
EugenePackleway.xml - Sat, 04 May 2019 10:58:10 EST dsDRA5Dc No.4846678 Ignore Report Reply

In my experience its just a convenient excuse for after a girl accidentally pisses your bed after orgasming, which happens sometimes.
Mason Ryan - Sat, 04 May 2019 13:17:48 EST NnPBGbSj No.4846721 Ignore Report Reply
Not true, you faggots are like “they feel like sand bags” ass niggas.
Tyron Woodley - Sat, 04 May 2019 17:08:00 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4846796 Ignore Report Reply
I can't tell if this is true or not because it generally doesn't stink or smell like anything. If you're lucky enough to find a girl who squirts you'll know what I mean. Which is incredibly hot when it happens regardless of the bedsheets which you should change anyway. But I keep hearing this "it's piss" thing but I only once found it vaguely smelled of urine and every other time it was basically odorless and just a clear liquid.
Max Payne - Mon, 06 May 2019 04:44:07 EST PUUaSbDP No.4847347 Ignore Report Reply
Lentils and beans are what half the population of India is on
CharlesSablinglock.dot - Mon, 06 May 2019 04:57:49 EST 6q+a4KQt No.4847353 Ignore Report Reply

Guess I don't really care either way, didn't smell bad though.

The clenching cunt though, its so fucking good. It is sooooo fucking good.
Ambassador Soval - Mon, 06 May 2019 05:39:03 EST HVxbe/uh No.4847361 Ignore Report Reply
You know they'd really have something on their hands with that impossible burger if they'd just cave on the 100% vegan thing and put some beef tallow in it.

It would still reduce the overall cow death toll and use some of that fat everyone wants reduced all the time for a good cause.
Phoebe Shakestone - Wed, 08 May 2019 06:15:44 EST YyfS/OOX No.4848087 Ignore Report Reply
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My last 53,792 meals have been vegatarian.

Search for Marika Hase squirting.
Nicolas Stohrer - Thu, 09 May 2019 05:32:42 EST PoTZjQ4W No.4848455 Ignore Report Reply
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eat yer greens
Andrew Oikonny - Thu, 09 May 2019 08:02:49 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4848473 Ignore Report Reply
Do not fret, they'll be doing that stuff with normal burgers, throwing in pea protein and stuff.
Oliver Clirrylare - Thu, 09 May 2019 08:04:26 EST R9TB/QmX No.4848474 Ignore Report Reply
last night we made spinach with sesame oil and chili paste
shit was so tasty
Mad Dog Vachon - Thu, 09 May 2019 09:36:27 EST 8xil1upv No.4848535 Ignore Report Reply
Chiva IV - Fri, 10 May 2019 10:21:28 EST 04hIz4gZ No.4849061 Ignore Report Reply
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Question. With mcdonalds, burgerking and other fastfood franchises now having a vegetarian/vegan option, is it ok to buy their vegetarian/vegan burgers? I mean, they're still genocidal horrible companies, so do they deserve our money just because they have a vegan burger option? Or should we promote their vegan burgers to make more people eat them instead of their traditional corpse murder burgers?
Ensign Herbert - Fri, 10 May 2019 10:44:58 EST cxpilczL No.4849062 Ignore Report Reply

take a step back, and realize that not everyone does the things you do for the same reasons you do. some people select vegan choices as a "less unhealthy" alternative, and are not motivated by the same ideals as you.
Chiva IV - Fri, 10 May 2019 11:24:27 EST 04hIz4gZ No.4849069 Ignore Report Reply
Yes, not everyone gives a fuck about ethics and the suffering of others, your point? I have no reason to respect their unethical views.

Inb4: but I'm a nihilistic kiddie and morality is subjective and we shouldn't even try to avoid causing suffering because everyone's fucked up moral values should be respected and it doesn't even matter man hurr duurr
Greg Saunier - Fri, 10 May 2019 11:31:22 EST e16Y1i73 No.4849073 Ignore Report Reply
want zinc? eat semen!
Duncan MacLeod - Fri, 10 May 2019 12:13:17 EST xeON+F17 No.4849086 Ignore Report Reply
I can never find a reliable source
George Romero - Fri, 10 May 2019 13:24:32 EST y96CB3N9 No.4849108 Ignore Report Reply
Truck stop bathrooms.
Tito Colon - Sat, 11 May 2019 00:32:47 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4849336 Ignore Report Reply
No, you better listen to him! You better listen to him damn good! Okay? Listen to him, and listen to him again, until shit makes sense to you and you don't need to confusedly squable anymore!

He just so happens to be so incredibly wrong, that's he's right! It's all about the health issue. Mcdonalds protractedly kills you with the fries, with help from the standard issue pop. The vastly predominant harm is to yourself anyway, along with anyone you're sharing that "food" with.
Lich King - Sat, 11 May 2019 00:43:50 EST riBcWeuX No.4849338 Ignore Report Reply
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Vera Rubiin - Sat, 11 May 2019 14:14:37 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4849499 Ignore Report Reply
You're harming factory farmed animals and the environment as well as healthcare system. And their special sauce and nuggets suck anyway. So you're literally causing suffering on a daily holocaust scale while bankrupting the nation and killing the eco sphere for garbage that doesnt even taste good.
James Hacklechere - Sun, 12 May 2019 03:57:01 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4849773 Ignore Report Reply
But the main damage is to yourself. So it's, like, soooo simple!

Everything has salt, sugar and msg pumped in. The burger will have that big bun of empty starch, whatever it is. Even iced tea instead of pop still has like 2/3 the sugar. And the drink fountains have been found encrusted with bacteria, but that's likely hardly an exception for a fast food place.

I hear of their egg muffin getting touted as one of their nutritional frontrunners though, so it would seem kinda important to find some stuff vividly wrong with that.
Ejnar Hertzprung - Sun, 12 May 2019 04:05:36 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4849776 Ignore Report Reply
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It's not just about that. I mean whatever they pump into cows is going to absolutely wreck your body metabolism. It is such horrifically garbage food you'd swear some malevolent humanity hating force is behind it in the same way a malevolent humanity hating force runs Monsanto and EA.
Champion Frederick - Mon, 13 May 2019 05:07:34 EST PoTZjQ4W No.4850096 Ignore Report Reply
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Man, some people here think that not eating meat for 24 hours will kill you...


Have a bloomin' onion
NicholasBlythewater.hex - Mon, 13 May 2019 08:00:45 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4850124 Ignore Report Reply
Well, okay ... I guess you can say that.

But you want to put you finger on how it's blatantly special, no? And I mean less subjectively. I'd wager the peculiarity you can most easily note about them is how they target children. With the playgrounds and toys as well as the highly publicized kid's menu and I guess the increasing focus on deserts. And hand in hand with that they have all their foodstuffs masked with the tongue stimuli of milk (human/horse type milk, not something more consumable by adults like goat milk)(and salt, also for shelf life). It all kind of goes hand in hand with an M.O. of snagging customers early and expecting them to just stick with them.
Sophie Hongerdod - Mon, 13 May 2019 08:12:30 EST 36XzZl/P No.4850131 Ignore Report Reply
So many nice veg meals WHY THEY FAKE MEAT?
Keith Hackney - Mon, 13 May 2019 08:27:52 EST xIvA5Qzu No.4850136 Ignore Report Reply
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you like shoving real meat in your mouth you faggot?
Egotistico Fantastico - Mon, 13 May 2019 08:33:57 EST LkkyNueO No.4850139 Ignore Report Reply
I've been a vegetarian and a meater for long periods. You don't always have to eat meat, of course, but if your body's accustomed to large amounts of protein, it can be difficult to adapt to feeling full enough without it.

Easiest way to start is to eat huge dank salads before your main meal, which take no time to prepare but are extremely satisfying. Eventually your body gets used to processing more veg. Then you at least don't need as much meat. Eating fish more often is also a good transition. Certainly the US/UK/AU/Canada eat way too much fucking meat, far more than most bodies can make use of... and after a certain point, around age 50, it increases your cancer risk to the equivalent of smoking roughly a pack of cigs a day.
MollyBardwill.icm - Mon, 13 May 2019 08:53:32 EST RCVx7ckC No.4850142 Ignore Report Reply
I'll stick with whole meats and salad, thanks.

You can keep your poisonous cured meats and grains.
Commander Morag - Mon, 13 May 2019 09:36:21 EST 6vUbPONM No.4850154 Ignore Report Reply
Walter Baade - Thu, 16 May 2019 08:19:11 EST hBNTrpFw No.4851261 Ignore Report Reply
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Half of India uses lentils & beans for protein
Karl Jansky - Thu, 16 May 2019 11:40:30 EST YBq4FpXF No.4851301 Ignore Report Reply
How do you get all the required vitamins, minerals, and cholesterol your body needs from a plant-based diet?

Or are you just resigning to a weaker body for the greater good?

Also the people (actually I only saw one person before replying) who talk about vegan chicken nuggets and other processed garbage... If you're a vegan who eats vegan chicken nuggets you're basically admitting you want to eat meat but don't want to feel bad about it.
Menos - Thu, 16 May 2019 13:04:29 EST v+r5eyLm No.4851316 Ignore Report Reply
>If you're a vegan who eats vegan chicken nuggets you're basically admitting you want to eat meat but don't want to feel bad about it.

What's wrong with that? Not everybody wants to eat healthy food 100% of the time. Trash food taste gud
Will o' The Wisp - Thu, 16 May 2019 13:06:05 EST PSyx7sTQ No.4851317 Ignore Report Reply
They're also the only culture on earth that knows how to make them taste decent.
Guy - Thu, 16 May 2019 13:07:25 EST AEy2zMPJ No.4851320 Ignore Report Reply

Rice and beans.
Corn meal porridge.

And if you find it hard to comprehend a diet based on these staples being sustainable for the world, individual humans and not fucking with your gains.


ithe ceallraí, scoilt uillinn
Guy - Thu, 16 May 2019 13:08:53 EST AEy2zMPJ No.4851321 Ignore Report Reply

Fake meat is garbage. Vegan food must stand on its own merits.

I'm not vegan, I don't drink their koolaid, but I sure as fuck know how to make a healthy and delicious meal that doesn't involve animal product.

Direct your questions to the onion thread in nom.
Will o' The Wisp - Thu, 16 May 2019 13:19:07 EST PSyx7sTQ No.4851330 Ignore Report Reply
I swear to god if they just put some beef tallow into that Impossible burger it would be near perfect.

But nooooo. They need to draw the vegan hard line. But why? When we could really stretch out our supply of cows? That's the way to go.
Guy - Thu, 16 May 2019 13:31:38 EST AEy2zMPJ No.4851338 Ignore Report Reply

I like honey. I think it is good.

I like game meat. Since we already killed off the apex predators, deer need culling.

There's lots of good sustainable animal products out there, but factory farming is going to kill a lot of people, and damage long term food security.
Menos - Thu, 16 May 2019 14:54:54 EST v+r5eyLm No.4851360 Ignore Report Reply
>Vegan food must stand on its own merits.

It does, but lots of people weren't always vegan and would like to transition by eating fake meat.

>I'm not vegan, I don't drink their koolaid

What koolaid? The objective fact that the meat industry is cruel and is ruining our ecosystem? Fuck off.

>They need to draw the vegan hard line.

It's the whole point of the burger you fucking retard -- not killing animals.
Charlotte Settingfield - Thu, 16 May 2019 15:01:28 EST ECtbYkc7 No.4851369 Ignore Report Reply
Morality, environmental sustainability, and health are all pretty solid reasons.
Will o' The Wisp - Thu, 16 May 2019 15:05:58 EST PSyx7sTQ No.4851372 Ignore Report Reply
>It's the whole point of the burger you fucking retard -- not killing animals.

And that's a binary why? These are not wild animals. We stop raising them entirely and they're fucked. Especially when all the Vegan dickweeds decide everyone should forego dairy and eggs.

Fucking unfertilized free range eggs that were always gonna pop out of those fluffy little dinosaurs are out of bounds for vegans, despite that absolutely zero common vegan talking points can justify that.
It belies a completely separate ideological reasoning.
IsabellaWozzlebury.mar - Thu, 16 May 2019 15:52:45 EST krQBqUa0 No.4851388 Ignore Report Reply
>zero common vegan talking points can justify that
You must not know many vegans. Both environmental conservation and personal health could be used to justify the position of avoiding meat/egg/dairy consumption.
Creaton Jiveturkey - Thu, 16 May 2019 15:54:38 EST HdxVeFF8 No.4851390 Ignore Report Reply
>We stop raising them entirely and they're fucked
>Fucking unfertilized free range eggs that were always gonna pop out of those fluffy little dinosaurs are out of bounds for vegans

You're being really dishonest -- 1st: because you know that the whole world wouldn't suddenly become vegan, this would be a gradual change and cattle wouldn't simply be thrown in the trashcan -- farmers would breed less and less cattle over the years. And 2nd: you know that vegans (at least the ones that are vegans for ethical reasons) wouldn't care about getting their dairy from their pet cow or chicken or whatever, the problem we see is with the place where dairy comes from -- it's fucked up and cruel places and there's no real way of knowing which farms are actually not fucked up unless you go there because this shit ain't fiscalized right. "Free range" and "humane meat" are feelgood marketing buzzwords these days, there are countless examples of cruel shit that happens in farms that use these buzzwords, and supermarkets are not above putting these feel-good labels on factory meat products they sell in order to deceive the consumer. Boycotting the whole thing is the only way of being 100% sure that you're not paying for the cruel treatment of others.
ThomasSanningpot.swf - Thu, 16 May 2019 16:04:58 EST gEWOgUly No.4851398 Ignore Report Reply
What a retarded fucking argument. I've seen this before too. Hurr durr they can't live on their own so we should keep breeding them to eat and kill them.
Yuri - Thu, 16 May 2019 16:40:46 EST CahqI1lB No.4851411 Ignore Report Reply
Why do you insist on the exploitation of the chicken proletariat?
also most "free range" eggs are still from factory farms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSfAvGBQ9mU it's basically the same thing except without the cages. Free range=/=family farm with chickens running around on the lawn.
Creaton Jiveturkey - Thu, 16 May 2019 19:08:58 EST HdxVeFF8 No.4851522 Ignore Report Reply
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Aw shit, Snoop Dogg is making vegan burgers!
James Moriarty - Thu, 16 May 2019 19:11:57 EST 9BM/9OmI No.4851528 Ignore Report Reply
Do you think if you cut off one of Snoop's dreads you could smoke it get high?
Lita - Thu, 16 May 2019 20:20:42 EST HdxVeFF8 No.4851576 Ignore Report Reply
is there any other possible answer to your question?
ThomasClayshit.dxf - Thu, 16 May 2019 21:26:18 EST tDk6e3uy No.4851611 Ignore Report Reply
A rapper that has been irrelevant for over a decade capitalizing on the trendy hipsters that like him now? Epic!
Lita - Thu, 16 May 2019 21:33:36 EST HdxVeFF8 No.4851614 Ignore Report Reply
what are you even doing here if you don't like snoop dogg? This should be a bannable offense
ThomasClayshit.dxf - Thu, 16 May 2019 21:39:39 EST tDk6e3uy No.4851615 Ignore Report Reply
Keep grasping at things that you think will make you fit in with an imageboard you fucking poser
Heisenberg - Thu, 16 May 2019 21:49:21 EST vQCPEDej No.4851620 Ignore Report Reply
the fuck you even talking about dude you ain't SLAYER at all
El MurciŽlago - Thu, 16 May 2019 23:12:47 EST iPiyKECN No.4851655 Ignore Report Reply
I think Snoop Dogg fits as a persona for this imageboard because they're both real. Whether it's spittin true shit cause they came from true shit or accepting that everybody's high on something regardless of it being endogenous, they're both real.
Sho Minamimoto - Thu, 16 May 2019 23:16:31 EST cxpilczL No.4851656 Ignore Report Reply
any time someone uses the word "protein" as a dietary word but doesn't have a clue of the biology meaning of "protein" needs to shut the god damn fuck up. every living thing is made of proteins you retarded faggots.
Medium Jarvis - Thu, 16 May 2019 23:23:29 EST 9BM/9OmI No.4851657 Ignore Report Reply
I'm high on protein.
T'Pol - Thu, 16 May 2019 23:34:44 EST PSyx7sTQ No.4851660 Ignore Report Reply
I literally bought my eggs from a walk-in cooler literally at the farm in full view of a giant area fenced in with literal chicken wire. literally.
Brooke Cottle - Thu, 16 May 2019 23:53:38 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4851663 Ignore Report Reply
So in other words, a family farm. That's different.
Simon Wasslesit - Fri, 17 May 2019 03:50:06 EST AEy2zMPJ No.4851717 Ignore Report Reply

Hehehe, let the anger flow through you like blood through an animal.
Benedict Cumberbatch - Fri, 17 May 2019 08:26:22 EST LkkyNueO No.4851762 Ignore Report Reply
I prefer the figurative chicken wire myself. If you no mama saiyan.
James van Allen - Fri, 17 May 2019 08:27:40 EST hBNTrpFw No.4851763 Ignore Report Reply
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Beans, lentils and grains. Just try it for 24 hours.
Andrei Arlovski - Mon, 20 May 2019 08:54:43 EST JZt4LRWa No.4853258 Ignore Report Reply
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char-grill corn, anyone?
Mark Kerr - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:30:37 EST Np8HWhGT No.4853399 Ignore Report Reply
Actually no, big agriculture is far more efficient. We are just greedy and wasteful - if everyone ate less meat things would be a lot better, but people don't seem to want to do that
Jeffrey Jizzstain - Mon, 20 May 2019 15:54:58 EST hZjO1+Mv No.4853410 Ignore Report Reply
Man, millions of tons of fruits and vegetables are burned every year due to overproduction, we grow enough crops to feed one and a half times the current population, but because poor Africans or whoever can't afford to pay the cost of production (constant + variable capital costs + average rate of profit) of that food - and on top of that can't afford to invest in producing their own on the international market in competition with massively subsidized 1st world farmers - those 'excess' crops can't be sold without incurring a loss on investment and depressing the overall rate of profit. Animal agriculture is a problem, I agree, but putting on the blame on individual consumers is missing the forest for the trees
Swimmer♀ Molly - Tue, 21 May 2019 07:15:13 EST JZt4LRWa No.4853629 Ignore Report Reply
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Eat protein
Get swole
Wilhelm Beer - Tue, 21 May 2019 08:47:31 EST 3AqgYnGK No.4853644 Ignore Report Reply
I like yer meat
Howard Beale - Tue, 21 May 2019 09:03:56 EST krQBqUa0 No.4853647 Ignore Report Reply
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HeddaWevingstock.sea - Wed, 22 May 2019 05:02:59 EST JZt4LRWa No.4854041 Ignore Report Reply
fish is full of omega fats
Alan Guth - Fri, 24 May 2019 07:25:01 EST Url6mhxj No.4855215 Ignore Report Reply
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Grains, nuts & veg
Porthos - Sun, 26 May 2019 08:01:55 EST bA8L3ieP No.4856365 Ignore Report Reply
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Went to a place called Verdi (italian for green)... only for health-nuts
Commander Donatra - Tue, 28 May 2019 06:24:06 EST bA8L3ieP No.4857139 Ignore Report Reply
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Ramadan time
Martin Pozzlehood - Tue, 28 May 2019 06:35:24 EST nJkrco7e No.4857142 Ignore Report Reply
I bet there's animal product in at least 2/3 of those dishes. Shame.
Jack Evans - Fri, 31 May 2019 09:49:19 EST N5McBLnZ No.4858334 Ignore Report Reply
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Daily dessert
Clyde Tombaugh - Fri, 31 May 2019 10:07:33 EST R9TB/QmX No.4858343 Ignore Report Reply
Cant stop alcohol and cigarettes tho
God be merciful
Clyde Tombaugh - Fri, 31 May 2019 10:07:59 EST R9TB/QmX No.4858344 Ignore Report Reply
And weed
Ah well
Hello Shaytan, I'll be here a while, might as well get used to me
Clyde Tombaugh - Fri, 31 May 2019 10:08:56 EST R9TB/QmX No.4858345 Ignore Report Reply
Time to make a lifestyle blog about eating only eggs, slim jims, vegetables, coffee and drugs nb
Clyde Tombaugh - Fri, 31 May 2019 10:33:38 EST R9TB/QmX No.4858353 Ignore Report Reply
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Elite Four Isabella - Fri, 31 May 2019 20:42:06 EST N5McBLnZ No.4858520 Ignore Report Reply
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Alcohol & tobacco aren't meat.. so it's cool?
BasilNaffinghall.cbl - Fri, 31 May 2019 20:45:50 EST /RMVTNtk No.4858521 Ignore Report Reply
Do you have any idea how many trillions of yeast cells are thoughtlessly murdered making even small amounts of alcohol?
GeorgeClerringspear.maq - Fri, 31 May 2019 20:59:41 EST R9TB/QmX No.4858525 Ignore Report Reply
All intoxicants are forbidden typically
Captain Shelby - Fri, 31 May 2019 23:32:50 EST JMbesJgL No.4858579 Ignore Report Reply
I think you've said this before and it's still messing with me.

Like another poster said years ago "It's hard to kill lizards because they are almost real animals unlike gross disgusting bugs."

I feel the same way about cattle and chickens. I want to limit killing them because I can emotionally identify with them. But when it comes to yeast I haven't really thought about them and it's like, oh god, what if they need to be respected as organisms too and I'm just fucking murdering them.
GeorgeClerringspear.maq - Fri, 31 May 2019 23:33:30 EST R9TB/QmX No.4858580 Ignore Report Reply
Sure, you don't have to kill anything buddy, but don't hate on people killing things. We leveled the entire bison habitat to plant crappy ass corn and make HFCS.
Bobby Chinn - Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:02:19 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4858606 Ignore Report Reply
Who are you to try to go around repressing people like that? Dwelling on past stumbles is no excuse for anything, it's not like we're obliged to stay commited to that shit anyway, we could damn well stop growing the corn, cut back the cars that use that shitty biofuel type and stop growing cattle with it, and use the land for other things.

Of course, we could also just keep making sugar syrups out of the corn until we get even better at it and figure out how to use the xylose in the corn stalks.
Lt. Chu'lak - Sat, 01 Jun 2019 21:33:55 EST Z9Ud1bRd No.4859022 Ignore Report Reply
Had a meatless morning meal. It had cheese and milk but NO meat.
George Caddlewill - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 00:28:19 EST zsUMN0fy No.4859066 Ignore Report Reply
If the world tried to go vegan or vegetarian all at once the carbon intensive nature of the planting and harvesting would likely result in the extinction of random species world over. If we did it with tree based food we could possibly pull it off, but even then those foods that fit that life style aren't all that calorific, at least the good ones. There's no real winning there or obvious way out, besides humans are omnivorous for a reason.
Alain Chapel - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 00:36:35 EST iqdg5AlK No.4859070 Ignore Report Reply
Maybe by consuming less, it wouldnt have to be this way. Does modern man really need 2000 calories a day to shitpost?
Kurt Pellegrino - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 00:59:26 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4859082 Ignore Report Reply
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That doesn't sound plausible. It only leans on the farcical supposition that going vegan would imply we would dispose of and/or let loose our existing supply of meat. And that's just farcical.

In fact, since it would be due for us to make full use of our existing supply of meat, and since a very significant portion of us would relish this last precious opportunity to be eating meat, there'd be no keeping people from including invasive species in the definition of our leftover meat supply. So, we'd be reaching to Australia and scooping up our supply of feral pork and whatever else, and maybe some of the meat there might be a little odd, but come on, doesn't it look tasty? It would be all the more tasty without much else left! And just from doing that, we'd be preventing the extiction of a few species in the next decade.
Gabriel Leavings - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 04:15:01 EST BPVDJBbF No.4859115 Ignore Report Reply
I haven't read any of the shit in this thread, but as a cost saving measure, I switched to meat only at one meal (dinner or lunch) as is typical of most of the world. Really, it's only in the wealthy as fuck western countries that everyone eats a meat at every meal.

Meat once a day wasn't a hard transition. For the most part, I didn't miss it, or think "damn, I really wish there was some meat in this." I saved some cash, and I lost some weight.

Since I wasn't buying as much meat, I could afford better cuts. And since I was mindful of my meals, and wanted to maximize the flavor and impact of meat in my meal (wanna get that maximum tastiness and savor that shit), I started making better/more complex dinners.

So basically, instead of bologna (processed meats and sausages) and ground beef 3 times a day, I went meatless breakfast and lunch, and had a nice steak or roast for dinner. Less meat in total, better meat overall.
Charles Ranhofer - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 08:05:51 EST rG0VFHn4 No.4859134 Ignore Report Reply
Go to the deli and get good bologna, bruh. It's delicious.
Yuri - Mon, 03 Jun 2019 04:59:11 EST BPVDJBbF No.4859630 Ignore Report Reply
I don't doubt that there are good bolognas out there. What's a good one to get from the deli?
Tuber Beatrice - Mon, 03 Jun 2019 05:06:32 EST 9BM/9OmI No.4859631 Ignore Report Reply
Anything with a clown face.
Norton Mapes - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 06:08:57 EST Z9Ud1bRd No.4861109 Ignore Report Reply
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I eat fruit..
Mmm, that vital mineral (vitamin) C
Claude Troisgros - Sun, 09 Jun 2019 20:49:44 EST pvyxgw3H No.4862628 Ignore Report Reply
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Vegan? Probably a bicyclist and a female feminist too.
Aloucious McBreeze - Sun, 09 Jun 2019 20:52:07 EST doGMj6Ay No.4862630 Ignore Report Reply
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Although I will never give up meat in its entirety, I do like to try eating 'meatless' meals. I find shakshouka to be very versatile and tasty: just add whatever vegetables you like to a pan, and cook; then top with eggs, and there you have it, a filling, nutritious, meatless meal.
Claude Troisgros - Sun, 09 Jun 2019 20:54:45 EST pvyxgw3H No.4862632 Ignore Report Reply
yeah, it's about mindfullness.
Kendall Grove - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 06:14:51 EST xagrldb8 No.4862719 Ignore Report Reply
Good to know some people are willing to try.
Duane Ludwig - Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:10:23 EST fBNXOvZt No.4862977 Ignore Report Reply
eggs cause as much suffering, if not more so than killing and eating the chicken.

life causes suffering.
ElizaCaffingpitch.ncf - Tue, 11 Jun 2019 04:00:00 EST nArjsrgJ No.4863000 Ignore Report Reply
Nobody cRed about your suboptimal diet
Carl Seyfert - Tue, 11 Jun 2019 06:34:59 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4863018 Ignore Report Reply
"suboptimal" diet sound rather good for these days.
Rokusaburo Michiba - Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:43:21 EST R9TB/QmX No.4863063 Ignore Report Reply
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Rokusaburo Michiba - Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:57:05 EST R9TB/QmX No.4863085 Ignore Report Reply
fat middle aged psychiatrists will pump you full of this bullshit that will make you catatonic and fat and forget to exercise
drugs and slim jim diet ftw fuck the lifestyle blogs
Sexy Star - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:42:23 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4863303 Ignore Report Reply
Coke is fucking horrible for you. Yes, sweeteners in general are bad, and mannitol may not be the worst, especially in the low quanities you're due to snort it in, but coke is still horrible for you primarily through the godawful choice of sweeteners. Or rather, the lack of choice. It's HFCS or aspartame or aspartame or HFCS and aspartame. WTF? It's not even shelf stable! That's pathetic! And they try to raise up some mythical stevia sweetened coke, but it's not even there in stores, you're expected to go to some super speshul cokesuckers' place to consider buying it, how demented is that? They can't even petition the FDA to allow a newer less bad one in? Yet they need to shove out all these diet "choices", it's a total fucking farce.
King K. Rool - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 02:06:29 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4863308 Ignore Report Reply
oh I thought you were talking about cocaine for a second
yeah just stick to snorting blow and drinking pepsi
ToeJam & Earl - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 02:09:41 EST QLTOtYac No.4863309 Ignore Report Reply
Coke is a way better drink than Pepsi.
Sexy Star - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 02:16:41 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4863310 Ignore Report Reply
Hey man, cocaine and rum is fucking awful for you too!

But I'll readily admit, I'm completely clueless about how much progress there is on splicing together stevia and coca leaves. I'd very much like to comment on that, but I'm uninformed!
Sexy Star - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 02:22:15 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4863311 Ignore Report Reply
You have a million different types of Colas. There's the 8 to 1 ratio aspartame-accesulfame cola, the 4 to 1 ratio aspartame-accesulfame cola, the 2 to 1 ratio aspartame-accesulfame cola....

And you need to instruct people that they are obliged to consume it as a drink?
John Wheeler - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:04:22 EST xagrldb8 No.4863335 Ignore Report Reply
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>drinking soda instead of filtered clean water.
Google "mountain dew mouth". I rather have a decent set of teeth and gums.
Sexy Star - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 06:27:18 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4863348 Ignore Report Reply
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idunno lol, maybe the aspartame gives some kind of buzz? Maybe all the completely unbound glucose too? Well, we can't really know unless they actually put out some decent alternatives.
John Wheeler - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:05:29 EST xagrldb8 No.4863369 Ignore Report Reply
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People should learn self-control. Go easy on surgary drinks.
Simon Ponnernag - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:16:56 EST vQCPEDej No.4863374 Ignore Report Reply
I started smoking weed about 13 years ago and shortly after I stopped drinking pretty much all sugary drinks

wasn't a conscious decision or anything it just kinda worked out that way

I literally havn't had a cavity since and I do not brush as much as one should, and never floss
Sexy Star - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:27:57 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4863377 Ignore Report Reply
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Some people have seriously limited self control. They need their sweet drinks. Of course, it so doesn't help that the sugary drinks are everywhere.

Some people need chocolate milk.

And there we're back on the topic, animal product. Some people need a sweet and fatty drink! That chocolate milk doesn't have to be with actual dairy, coconut chocolate milk can be very nice.
Trevor C. Belmont - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:40:28 EST EuiLGEDI No.4863461 Ignore Report Reply
everytime i buy juice or a can of soda i feel like absolute shit afterwards, IDK how people drink and eat shit like that all day.
John Wheeler - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:50:01 EST xagrldb8 No.4863518 Ignore Report Reply
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Shiney McShine - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:58:45 EST VuBKlujz No.4863540 Ignore Report Reply
Lol I'm literally on an all-meat diet right now
Karl von Weizsacker - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:03:14 EST cxpilczL No.4863541 Ignore Report Reply

yeah so's my girlfriend. givin her that vitamin D. you keep taking the meat, i will consume a balanced nutritious diet
Rhonda Rousey - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:11:11 EST VuBKlujz No.4863554 Ignore Report Reply
I will faggot
Cmdr. Kelby - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:46:10 EST D/IDY4bE No.4863580 Ignore Report Reply
jeez that's practically a one way ticket to cancertown
Christiaan Huygens - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 00:30:17 EST JcT1++GB No.4863614 Ignore Report Reply
but daddy Peterson does it and he's probably one of the foremost public intellectuals among basement dwellers and over-65s
Skillet - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 07:23:54 EST xagrldb8 No.4863694 Ignore Report Reply
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I like my veg flame-grilled.

Blaze Zed - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 07:39:28 EST krQBqUa0 No.4863696 Ignore Report Reply
Jordan Peterson, a nice-guy who doesn't know shit about nutrition or politics. 4chinners gravitate towards him and Andrew Yang, despite them being very different politically.
nb /pol/
Cornelius Pittfield - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 08:15:02 EST k7/cOg6X No.4863704 Ignore Report Reply
Youre the only one talking about peterson, that makes you the enthusiastic retard
Christiaan Huygens - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:34:47 EST JcT1++GB No.4863738 Ignore Report Reply
that's not me but i am in fact an enthusiastic retard
Blaze Zed - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:57:16 EST krQBqUa0 No.4863748 Ignore Report Reply
no u
Walter Snodwell - Fri, 14 Jun 2019 04:26:54 EST ZoNRzXWT No.4864094 Ignore Report Reply
That people would embrace such below-pointless dietary obsessions just for the sake of posturing is a level of pathetic that's hard to describe.

I mean, of course it's all for show and spite, and it's seemingly also bullshit, but... it seems obtuse and retarded even beyond that.

Okay, then we can get knowing that, why not?

Juice is much easier to wrap heads around, so let's focus on that. People keep buying thems big cartons of juice because they can't ease off onto buying proper fruit. That includes being incapable of enough motivation to juice some fruits and then make use of the leftover fruit parts, or having teeth that would hurt from biting into fruit (not to imply that whole fruit is harder on teeth than juice, or even equally harsh on teeth). They also have their metabolism adjusted to handle all those rapid burning nutrients, which presumably includes running air conditioning more agressively or at least going to a public pool and air conditioned mall regularly and they probably have some kind of wading pool if they have a backyard. They likely also excercise only in the winter, probably on treadmills and such. They'd also never make drinks themselves, not like eggnog or even close, they probably couldn't even make their own hot chocolate and if they did they'd add extra sugar just to flex the ability to have something their way, they probably feel dramatically anti-indulgent having canned/bottled iced tea and presumably greaty prefer buying premade coffee to brewing it.

Soda is probably essentially much the same, just a lot more complicated.
HughShakefoot.hlp - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 08:00:21 EST esJqQIlD No.4866360 Ignore Report Reply
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Ale. Beer. Mead. It's good for ya!
Molly O'Brien - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 23:31:35 EST v5mZuMkK No.4867653 Ignore Report Reply
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You're a christian giving up meat for Lent?
Fucking McFuck - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 02:49:14 EST Wfk/Q7zE No.4867703 Ignore Report Reply
satan says it's okay to eat meat on good friday so do what he says
Anthony Bourdain - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:10:46 EST 9BcIvdiT No.4868754 Ignore Report Reply
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Fish is still meat despite what vegetarians say.
Nell Nunnerledging - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:13:34 EST U8eWiAGX No.4868766 Ignore Report Reply
daaaaaaaamn thats my kinda spread
Mavis Fudgecurl - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:20:17 EST oGNa0+dP No.4868767 Ignore Report Reply
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Fuck that gonna make this my friday and easter ritual
sushi on saturdays maybe
Edgar Ross - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:27:32 EST ZuXECqt7 No.4868811 Ignore Report Reply
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Wesley Shakewater - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:32:37 EST q7ZRLWrF No.4868812 Ignore Report Reply
We kill living animals not living babies.
Violet Churchgrab - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:36:49 EST /vPAO+Ed No.4868813 Ignore Report Reply
The leftist cool guy in your image is correct. Unless it's an 8 month old baby or something that's getting aborted, I guess. If it doesn't have a consciousness then who cares. What are you anyway, a street preacher?
Jogger Walter - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:43:32 EST 2RIYU0t1 No.4868814 Ignore Report Reply
The stupid part is assuming leveling 500 million acres of forest or great plains is somehow nice to animals. We killed the bison to plant corn.
MartinBlillymon.hex - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:44:43 EST Z04EErKt No.4868815 Ignore Report Reply
>a complete developed living creature including nervous system
>a few developed cells

Hurr whats nuance
Violet Churchgrab - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:46:54 EST /vPAO+Ed No.4868816 Ignore Report Reply
Farmed animals eat more grains than we do.
Jogger Walter - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:49:49 EST 2RIYU0t1 No.4868817 Ignore Report Reply
Grass feed is sufficient.
Violet Churchgrab - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:55:21 EST /vPAO+Ed No.4868818 Ignore Report Reply
Try feeding grass to chicken.
Jogger Walter - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:59:31 EST 2RIYU0t1 No.4868819 Ignore Report Reply
You feed grass seeds to the chicken, ya dang fool. Ya lost boy? Ever worked on a farm?
Violet Churchgrab - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:04:24 EST /vPAO+Ed No.4868820 Ignore Report Reply
And what about the harvesting of grass seeds, ya dumdum? It ain't harmless. And grassfed is enough in theory, but not for this greedy meat industry it isn't.
Jogger Walter - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:06:33 EST 2RIYU0t1 No.4868821 Ignore Report Reply
The point is the problem isn't meat; it's the factory part. Factory farmed meat is bad. Factory farmed corn is bad. Big agribusiness is bad. There are solutions that don't involve condemning people for consuming meat.
DavidDemmerwatch.rm - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:37:01 EST u27gIV8+ No.4868825 Ignore Report Reply
They could invent machines that could process fields and yield 'meat' if desired. It just an illusion of change. They don't have to get an animal mixed up in it.
Peter Campbell - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:43:44 EST E+NYElb/ No.4868840 Ignore Report Reply
The point is that as long as it's more profitable to treat animals like shit (ie always) it's gonna continue happening in both small and factory farms. Yes, small farms treat animals like shit too.
Jogger Walter - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:50:53 EST 2RIYU0t1 No.4868843 Ignore Report Reply
And plenty of vegetarians treat people like shit, too, apparently
Peter Campbell - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:03:52 EST E+NYElb/ No.4868847 Ignore Report Reply
Do you want a hug? I can give you a hug.
HeddaDuckhood.ogg - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:38:44 EST NbzX8Pt+ No.4868877 Ignore Report Reply
No, I want you to let me eat meat and not bitch about it.
Cunt McPuntington - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:56:37 EST kgYTVoLT No.4868879 Ignore Report Reply
Goofus vegetarian
>Meat is murder! I am so great. I will virtue signal to you that I am better than you by telling you you're a shitbag for eating responsibly sourced animal protein.
Gallant vegetarian
>I have my reasons for not eating meat, but respect your right to choose as well. I realize that my food also comes with an environmental cost.
Edwin Minkinfield - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:14:48 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4868885 Ignore Report Reply
Goofus non-rapist

>rape is wrong! I am so great. I will virtue signal to you that I am better than you by telling you you're a shitbag for fucking responsibly sourced animal poontang.

Gallant non-rapist
>I have my reasons for not eating raping, but respect your right to choose as well. I realize that my sex also comes with a cost.

I don't you faggot. It's not "I am so great" like saying, I don't steal, I pay my child support and so on. What you want a fucking cookie for doing the right thing? As for others, well, they're just immoral and don't care how their actions impact others or the suffering they cause.
Cunt McPuntington - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:15:53 EST kgYTVoLT No.4868889 Ignore Report Reply
Lay off the meth and pick up elements of style on your way out son
Edwin Minkinfield - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:13:11 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4868916 Ignore Report Reply
Hey man if you want to be immoral and promote suffering in this world that's your business amirite
Aida Mollenkamp - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:34:42 EST BXfVNdMr No.4868921 Ignore Report Reply
Hey man you are promoting suffering, too you pompous, virtual signaling ass-hat
Go tell people in Africa not to eat animals and starve why dont ya ya fucking dumbass. Promoting vegetarianism in the wrong places is immoral and promotes suffering. You're just a dogmatic, religious, prick who can't listen to reason.
You are less moral than I based on your hypocrisy, and the fact that you aren't willing to listen to criticism of your view and respond in a genuine way suggests that you're doing this for the ego boost because you think it makes you a good person or something.
Rocket Edwin - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:40:52 EST j5LIWZrh No.4868922 Ignore Report Reply
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Global meat-eating is on the rise, bringing surprising benefits https://www.economist.com/international/2019/05/04/global-meat-eating-is-on-the-rise-bringing-surprising-benefits
Suck it, vegans
Rocket Edwin - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:42:21 EST j5LIWZrh No.4868923 Ignore Report Reply
why stop at human meat eaters
why not kill all dogs and cats
or even better, all animal life
perfect plant and fungus world
Guy Savoy - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:47:58 EST nJkrco7e No.4868925 Ignore Report Reply
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Global temperatures and greenhouse gases are on the rise too.
Dome Ace Fuck - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:53:09 EST RKOZfxbo No.4868926 Ignore Report Reply
You laugh, but if we actually sruvive and turn the tide on globabl warming, we will have to deal with the eventual shitshow that will be our sociopolitical world when we gengineer animals of all species to human level intelligence, and maybe even give them humanoid bodies. So, Lion-men arguing about how hunting antelope was honorable and good for their ancestors but now humans have tainted the collective soul of their species so they must now "conform" to an increasingly vegan world, and Antelope-men arguing back how their ancestors lived in constant terror of the lions and that the new world is a veritable paradise.

All the same old bullshit, different century.
Samuel Dickglue - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:55:30 EST 8RBaRXPO No.4868928 Ignore Report Reply
Oh boy, wanna try writing this post againg but without all of the fallacies?

>virtual signaling

You meant virtue signaling.

>Go tell people in Africa not to eat animals and starve why dont ya ya fucking dumbass

He isn't saying that people in africa should't eat animals and starve though, that's a straw man. The rest of your post is ad homs. Smoke some weed, calm down and try again.

You posted this before and you were already refuted. Not gonna do it again.
Anthony Crabs - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:55:50 EST OHvgoaHZ No.4868930 Ignore Report Reply

Thats not really at all possible even with our most out there sci fi tech conceivable. Thats just not how genetics or intelligence or brains or living things work.
Dome Ace Fuck - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:10:52 EST RKOZfxbo No.4868934 Ignore Report Reply
I don't really have any reason to believe you, so do you wanna prove or backup those statements with some sources?
Dome Ace Fuck - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:11:17 EST RKOZfxbo No.4868935 Ignore Report Reply
this was for >>4868930
Rocket Edwin - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:15:58 EST j5LIWZrh No.4868939 Ignore Report Reply
It's all bullshit. You shouldn't eat excessive amounts of meat. But you shouldn't tell people not to eat meat and act like your diet somehow endows you with moral superiority. Millions of animals die just for you to exist, even if you create one degree of separation in between you and the actual consumption of their bodies. You're just an idiot.
Samuel Dickglue - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:27:30 EST 8RBaRXPO No.4868947 Ignore Report Reply
>Millions of animals die just for you to exist

And what's wrong with trying to reduce the amount of animals that die and suffer for us to exist? You know it's the right thing to do.
Edwin Minkinfield - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:43:22 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4868955 Ignore Report Reply
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You know if you're going to bring up religion, that for instance in Islam Muslims actually can eat pork if they're starving to death. No one is making some bizarre strawmanned retard argument about starving to death. What we are talking about are obese lardasses contributing to suffering in the world in an industry that's massively resource inefficient and contributing to climate change so they can gain another hundred kilos. How about getting off your scooter once in awhile?
Dome Ace Fuck - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:56:47 EST RKOZfxbo No.4868961 Ignore Report Reply
Dredd was a prophecy.
Anthony Crabs - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:11:40 EST OHvgoaHZ No.4868963 Ignore Report Reply
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That fucking banana peel in the bottom middle pic LMAO
Bart Bok - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:46:25 EST Vn0Oy1Ki No.4868988 Ignore Report Reply
Make that prosciutto or bacon instead of ham, and make them small on toothpicks. That would probably be tasty.
Tokey McWeed - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:15:02 EST OHvgoaHZ No.4868993 Ignore Report Reply
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Eh, I still question the idea of the banana with that, as well as drenching it in hollandaise.

If we are gonna combine pork and fruit and dairy then I definitely have to go for the prosciutto - watermelon - feta combo with a little balsamic glaze
Shodan - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:43:59 EST IiSIjjvW No.4869007 Ignore Report Reply
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John Wheeler - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 03:26:41 EST VkZueT1p No.4870684 Ignore Report Reply
What's for dinner?!?
Dan Severn - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 06:18:39 EST urZA4k3T No.4870715 Ignore Report Reply
so muslims can just start starving a little if they want to give a try to eating pork? or dog, obviously. the same thing should be true for beer, right? or wine. of course, just if it's red wine. or maybe it would have to be like table beer with more carbs than alcohol?

I mean, it hasn't been all that hard to tell anyway that muslims can be pretty chill when they try.
Dan Severn - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 07:52:32 EST urZA4k3T No.4870743 Ignore Report Reply
yeah, sure whatever, if you want to be stupid, whiteboi! you just have to act like a retard and fail to get the simplest thing, like, hey, how about we just fed the grass to ... I don't know ... grasscutters??? eh? eh? a wonderfully wholesome perfectly sized family dish, with no retarded egg-laying multitasking-baggage derailing its optimizedness. normal people : 1, vegaboos : 0!
Dan Severn - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 08:05:14 EST urZA4k3T No.4870746 Ignore Report Reply
oh yeah, go ahead, just shit on all the people who want to be raped! the same way as the freakish domesticated livestock animals! and I'm not talking "domesticated" like a righteous poodle or badass toadline pitbull, or an enchanting cheshire cat, only domesticated in the sense that they live in houses, I'm talking, they're domesticated so profoundly, it's like they grow into being parts of the barns!

also, you seem to be being stupid in making a fuss about women being raped. you're fucking white nighting that way! it's sorta common knowledge that most of those asking asking to be raped are dudes, you wanna white knight for them??, you're not some sort of faggot, are you?
Russel Hulse - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 08:23:00 EST BPVDJBbF No.4870752 Ignore Report Reply
Alright, so Islam, from a theological/academic standpoint, is actually very self aware and thoughtful.
They share the Jewish canon, and the Christian canon, as well as the prophecy and revelations of Mohammad in the Koran.

They know that these stories were passed down orally, imperfectly, from human to human, and that each human would have their own motivation and could possibly taint the work. So the holy books are holy, as they are inspired by God, but they are also tainted by man transcribing, deleting, and adding words to it for his own earthly benefit.

They don't believe Jesus was the son of God; they believe that Jesus existed and was a prophet (just like Mohammad), and that either Jesus or the people spreading his story perverted it to make Jesus look like the son of God.

So Jesus walked through the desert for 30 days and nights, to talk with God and gain wisdom (Mohammad also did this), and in those days, Satan appeared to tempt him. Jesus said that God has a plan, and knows our intentions, so don't try to play God to your benefit and don't try to look for loopholes, because God knows what the fuck you're up to. This is accepted Christian and Muslim canon, and is accepted as "correct advice from/about God and how to live."

Now, a divergence from Christian and Muslim thought happens here: Christians are taught to hold 100% to their conviction and religion at all times, always, forever and ever. If God says to a Jew/Christian "don't eat pork", then that means starve to death if pork is the only thing available. Jesus himself says pretty much that, and there's the whole deal with Daniel in the lion's den, and Moses with the pharoah. Christians are supposed to be 100% never waver, ride or die followers of the word of God (but Jesus will give you a 1-time pass). However in the Koran, Mohammad says pretty much "God wants Muslims to live. Rule #1 is stay alive." Muslims are allowed to "convert" to other religions publicly to save their own lives, while in their minds and souls remaining true to Islam; by contrast, Jews and Christians are supposed to say "Fuck you, I'm a Jew/Christian. Kill me if you have to."

So Muslims can break their religious laws, or bend them, if circumstances require it for their survival. But don't push that shit. Don't think "God said I can't eat pork, so I'm going to just not eat for a 3 weeks, and stock my fridge up with pork chops and shit in the meantime." God will know. God will know that you're trying to set up some stupid loophole or logic trap like Satan tried to do to Jesus in the desert, and that you aren't genuinely starving to death; you're just "starving" to engineer a situation where you can justify to your self disobeying an order from God.

Luckily for the believers, all Abrahamic religions allow for atonement and the erasure of sin. It would probably be less sinful to just eat pork, say to God "I ate pork, because I wanted to. I'm sorry" and it would be more sinful to try to trick God and eat the pork when you could have spent your energy on something other than trying to outsmart and disobey the omniscient and omnipotent creator of everything.
Dan Severn - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 09:10:24 EST urZA4k3T No.4870755 Ignore Report Reply
saywhat? that kind of saintmongerring gibberish gets said by everyone trying to angelize religion, but the fact is, muslims do get clever with that kind of stuff, not that others neccessarily don't.

just like christians really wanting to be all like "Fuck you, I'm a Jew/Christian. Kill me if you have to.", cause they're into it, it's their "cool". it's not just that lofty bullshit about circumstances forcing them into it. of course, some christian groups may deny it, and have their own pretentious taboos about having names like jesus, steven, job, abel, or any other bible or post-bible guy who got killed, but that denial varies.
Russel Hulse - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 09:38:47 EST BPVDJBbF No.4870759 Ignore Report Reply
Nigga, I didn't say no one tries to pull that shit. From a strictly by the book interpretation of Judaism and Christianity: you gotta starve to death; The Rules are infallible. From the by the book interpretation of Islam: you gotta do what you gotta do to live, the rules might not be The Rules, because we're hearing what the rules are from a fallible human instead of directly from God. And all three religions agree: don't try to pull a fast one on God.

Now, not everyone follows the books. That's why we have sects, and denominations, and schisms. I'm not doubting that there's a group of religious people out there trying to rules-lawyer God, and what "technically" the rules are or are not.

I'm saying by the book, the Gospels say don't try that loophole shit. The Torah is full of stories and warnings of what happens to you if you try the loophole shit. The Koran says "the Gospels and Torah are mostly legit." The Koran says don't try to pull loophole shit. So across hundreds of years, it appears the consensus is: don't try to pull loophole shit on God. The Islamic theology, they study various scrolls and scriptures to find commonalities, and try to find a way to remove the human corruption from the word of God that was given and written. "Don't fuck with God and try to pull loophole bullshit" is a commonality; across all fallible humans with their own motivations and schemes, that message made it through untouched, so as far as an honest practitioner of Islam is concerned, that's very likely the word of God.

But people are people, so people will try that loophole shit. That doesn't mean it's acceptable in the eyes of God or in compliance with the scripture of Islam, Christianity, or Judaism.

All three religions know their standards are impossible to meet: you are a sinner, you will sin, and you will need to atone for the sin. The divergence is on how to sin acceptably: Muslims may sin to save their lives and continue to be Muslims, survival is not a sin and requires no atonement; Christians and Jews may not sin to save their lives, but they're sinners anyway and are doomed to fail, so it's not that big of a deal if they do sin to save their own lives for Christians;Jews get fucked in this deal cuz they don't have Jesus.
John Wheeler - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 19:07:59 EST VkZueT1p No.4870924 Ignore Report Reply
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Jewish lawyers are the best because they spent their sundays..eh.. sabbath days getting around with loopholes in the laws.
Candy Prolapse - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 20:39:06 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4870961 Ignore Report Reply
This. Which is the joke of part of why God repeatedly had to say, don't try and rules lawyer me
>The Torah is full of stories and warnings of what happens to you if you try the loophole shit.
is irony because
> I'm not doubting that there's a group of religious people out there trying to rules-lawyer God
is literally some Orthodox Jewish sects.
Like I said, Judaism is in a sense basically codified enthusiasm. We're talking some people doing things like having automatic lights in their house and automated everything because then technically they're not breaking Sabbath but can still proceed as normally for the most part, all of which goes into the most enthusiastic debates imaginable about whether wiping your own arse counts as "work"
Kintaro - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 22:21:21 EST /LoKIhlk No.4870995 Ignore Report Reply
The girl on the left has a weird right leg.
Crono - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 00:51:47 EST di2U2CFB No.4871015 Ignore Report Reply
I think it's just the angle

tho they are both too skinny to be attractive legs let's be real
Crono - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 00:52:51 EST di2U2CFB No.4871016 Ignore Report Reply
also I don't know what you dudes are arguing about but this guy is right

they have special Jewish elevators that don't "burn" with lights, and therefore can be used on the Sabath or whatever. It's literally retarded
Richard Leblanc - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 01:03:49 EST tDk6e3uy No.4871017 Ignore Report Reply
Maybe they have a terrible diet and need to eat a fuckin sandwich
JackGellystock.dev - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 02:23:58 EST wZ4wNknM No.4871053 Ignore Report Reply
A sandwich is considered a good diet?
Socialite Cornelius - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 02:26:12 EST z64siHkM No.4871057 Ignore Report Reply
Hey all my drenched in mayo processed deli meat shit sandwich is low carb and great with a salad
Richard Leblanc - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 02:31:41 EST tDk6e3uy No.4871059 Ignore Report Reply
Maybe read my post again but like with a douche-like upward inflection? Maybe it will like resonate with you better? Have you tried gluten-free bacon yet?
JackGellystock.dev - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 02:38:57 EST wZ4wNknM No.4871061 Ignore Report Reply
Gluten free bacon

What kind of weirdo nazi invented that shit?
You would sound like less of an asshole saying you were vegan instead of gluten free
Richard Leblanc - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 02:43:48 EST tDk6e3uy No.4871062 Ignore Report Reply
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I invented it because it was nonsense I pulled out of my ass, it is kind of you to compare me to nazis though.
Kid Kash - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:16:35 EST nJkrco7e No.4871129 Ignore Report Reply
I'm trying out a load of meat-substitute products lately but I'm just thinking about what I can do with them that isn't using them as that same meat.
Like this seitan "bacon" I have, I think it'd go well in some sort of ramen.
The Traveler - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:39:33 EST BPVDJBbF No.4871136 Ignore Report Reply
In my experience, the meat substitutes don't taste or feel like the meat they're trying to imitate. They taste like "a" meat, and have a meat-like texture, but your veggie bacon is not going to have the flavor or texture of real bacon, and should not be used in the same recipes on a 1 for 1 basis.

Any faux-meat recipe will need further tweaking to get a familiar flavor. A lot of them do taste good in ramen, lo mein, and stir fry, though.
Maximilian Wolf - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 06:04:33 EST dJzEy0Wc No.4871140 Ignore Report Reply
>Eat beans and grains
>non-vegans some how see this as a personal attack
I eat meat but c'mon.. how are y'all so sensitive to get personally offended by this? Grow up.
Kid Kash - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 06:28:28 EST nJkrco7e No.4871143 Ignore Report Reply
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Yes, that's what I was talking about.
The main exception is that this seitan stuff is remarkably similar to doner kebab meat. It helps that doner kebab meat varies depending on the percentage of whatever-meat-it's-supposed-to-be, cat and abducted child it has in it but you could serve someone seitan instead and I don't think they'd notice.
Junkyard Dog - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:03:47 EST EUyBDac8 No.4871178 Ignore Report Reply
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I wish I had some sausages right now to go with my eggs

I also wish I had a pot lid I could cover my frying pan with to make the yolks go all pink
Michel Bras - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:16:04 EST wcmFY3ST No.4871181 Ignore Report Reply
Use a plate
Junkyard Dog - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:20:03 EST EUyBDac8 No.4871182 Ignore Report Reply
My plate isn't wide enough, when I go to pick it up off the pan I'll burn my fingers

Also I only have one plate and I have to eat off of it later, I don't want it to be super hot
JamesDinningfield.sea - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:20:59 EST 38/L76z3 No.4871183 Ignore Report Reply
>break the yolks
Junkyard Dog - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:22:02 EST EUyBDac8 No.4871184 Ignore Report Reply
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>Break the yolks
And ruin the fucking egg?

I want to dip toast into the yolks while they're still runny, otherwise what the fuck is even the point of frying your eggs? Jesus christ.
JamesDinningfield.sea - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:22:36 EST 38/L76z3 No.4871185 Ignore Report Reply
I mean if you don't have a lid or a large plate you do what yagodda do
JamesDinningfield.sea - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:23:03 EST 38/L76z3 No.4871186 Ignore Report Reply
or you can flip them over easy like a proper fucking human
Leonard McCoy - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 11:17:37 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4871195 Ignore Report Reply
What drives me nuts about this is that the Sun is in front of the cloud.
Schoolboy Cyril - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 11:21:11 EST HN0oYc1Z No.4871196 Ignore Report Reply
I want an egg now and I hate you all a little bit.
Lt. Cmdr. Argyle - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 21:58:14 EST dyvkVwoO No.4871372 Ignore Report Reply
Not eating meat is gay and retarted. Your brain releases bonding chemicals when meat is consumed. It tastes good and I am going to keep eating it. Vegans can go eat other vegans to save the planet or some shit. Also there is no saving the planet the rich people want it a certain way thats it.
Oliver Fillerpune - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:01:10 EST xgpe6wUh No.4871388 Ignore Report Reply
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I was raised vegetarian but after seeing the part of Our Planet where walruses fall to their deaths and get all bloody and broken because they're running out of sea ice due to climate change while I was coming down on shrooms, I decided to be vegan to minimize contributing to that anymore than I have to to exist. Cruelty to farm animals is fucked up but ultimately avoidable so harder to justify giving up dairy (and I assume meat) for some reason, but the unavoidable reality of animal agriculture contributing to climate change is harder to get around with mental gymnastics.
Oliver Fillerpune - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:02:16 EST xgpe6wUh No.4871389 Ignore Report Reply
im high so that was poorly explained

the walruses gather in unnaturally large amounts on cliffside areas because they dont have sea ice to chill on during many parts of the year, and they're really not made to climb cliffs so they fall and there are just

piles of dead walruses and

humanity is turrible
Brad Vickers - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 01:06:48 EST 6b8udiZv No.4871415 Ignore Report Reply
don't forget the footage of rare madagascar forest critters followed up with satellite images of the same forest taken after production was mostly finished, showing the entire goddamn forest had been burnt and turned into farms.
Augustus Cole - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:39:57 EST CpCx/i11 No.4871621 Ignore Report Reply
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Oh noes... poor cute animals
Terrence Winters - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:30:29 EST fbnyuHkx No.4871694 Ignore Report Reply
nothing to lose your head over
Clara Sozzlelut - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:48:26 EST yUwOsz8/ No.4871696 Ignore Report Reply
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>don't forget the footage of rare madagascar forest critters

Found it
Lumpy Space Princess - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 21:54:22 EST u27gIV8+ No.4871699 Ignore Report Reply
You don't have fluffy Disneyland creatures in the forests for no reason.
Ivory - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 22:29:08 EST i+/IM0dL No.4871706 Ignore Report Reply
Martha Nuddlefidge - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 23:06:41 EST QKFtMa1N No.4871720 Ignore Report Reply
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veganism is so girly, eating dead flesh and drinking tiddy juice from other species is top alpha
Martha Nuddlefidge - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 00:28:45 EST QKFtMa1N No.4871730 Ignore Report Reply
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just a big jug of that cow tiddy juice
squirt it down my throat would be even better just sucking hard as I can

like a real man
Angus Bepperdock - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 04:42:16 EST CpCx/i11 No.4871807 Ignore Report Reply
Psychic Shit - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 09:04:55 EST thcH7Nzk No.4871839 Ignore Report Reply
holy shit I watched that episode because of this post. I'm high and that was crazy. its season 1, episode 2 about, 45 minutes in, if anyone is wondering.
Psychic Shit - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 15:16:54 EST thcH7Nzk No.4871923 Ignore Report Reply
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that will be one of those scenes that I will never be able to forget. I was imagining humans behaving like the walrus. I was anthropomizing the walrus similar to how the slug is in pic related. crawling on bodies, no living life.
Mavis Fudgecurl - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 23:56:01 EST LsK2q6Cm No.4873059 Ignore Report Reply
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Can't walrus swim good?
Lorna Mushcunt - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 00:53:08 EST cxpilczL No.4873081 Ignore Report Reply

i saw 2 walrus up close in water tank. very swim very good.
Kaylee Frye - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 08:35:22 EST 1NiRxBEw No.4873586 Ignore Report Reply
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Meatless is for wimps? No. Be frugal, be strong....
Fanny Gorryford - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 08:05:47 EST 1NiRxBEw No.4873947 Ignore Report Reply
Be a man.
James Martin - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 18:08:02 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4874093 Ignore Report Reply
You're killing the planet
Dr. Eggman - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 18:19:00 EST 2JC6oSt8 No.4874097 Ignore Report Reply
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All of agriculture combined is a significantly lower portion of CO2 emissions than most other factors (such as industry, transportation, or energy). Getting people to switch from eating beef to eating chicken won't change much if they're all still driving gasoline vehicles and powering their homes with coal.
Guinevere MacReady - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:40:24 EST 6X2+b61o No.4874236 Ignore Report Reply
And to think we live in a world with cities that make make electric kick scooters illegal. But, hey, that's totally understandable, I mean, to be using an engine with a cheap personal vehicle that weighs no more than a bike??? That's just not normal! That's fucking obscenely lazy! Even if you are probably still exercising your body in limited nonstrenuous way, which also just so happens to reduce your inhalation of other people's machine-excrement ... it's the principle!!

Although thoroughly insulating your house, and/or living in one with a non-heated(&non-cooled) section may do more than cutting down on cageroaming...
EmmaFengerstone.ttf - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:45:29 EST us+cYKi4 No.4874240 Ignore Report Reply
its pretty crazy that we use these greasy reciprocating engines to haul ourselves and a steel box to and from work everyday. while avoiding other people in steel boxes.
Guillaume Fouquet de la Varenne - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:48:30 EST MeoDKLsb No.4874243 Ignore Report Reply
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is anyone else repulsed by plant based sausage? as if tim hortons breakfast sandwiches weren't gross enough
EmmaFengerstone.ttf - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:49:34 EST us+cYKi4 No.4874245 Ignore Report Reply
If I'm enjoying a sausage, I expect it to be the Real Thing!
Caroline Gecklebadging - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:56:28 EST QLTOtYac No.4874255 Ignore Report Reply
Oh yes; give me the real nasty not the psuedo nasty.
EmmaFengerstone.ttf - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:57:32 EST us+cYKi4 No.4874257 Ignore Report Reply
If you're really nasty, you'll even eat the "egg"
Caroline Gecklebadging - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:29:13 EST QLTOtYac No.4874279 Ignore Report Reply
The "egg?" The egg, you say. What is this egg you speak of?
EmmaSuggleman.grp - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 01:11:33 EST cm5ilQJ9 No.4874307 Ignore Report Reply
I want to fuck your head egg
Caroline Gecklebadging - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 02:27:31 EST QLTOtYac No.4874326 Ignore Report Reply
Mmm baby come on
Guinevere MacReady - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:50:15 EST 6X2+b61o No.4874353 Ignore Report Reply
Well, you know what they say, if it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid!

But ... if it seems stupid, and it hasn't yet been shown to work, there is still a fleeting chance to make sure it's established as stupid! And if it's illegal, that's great "evidence" for it being stupid. It's like a stand that is taken for something being stupid.

"Work", you say, eh? Like that's the majority of car use? Okay, it is particularly crazy, that so often people use a cage designed to hold 5 people to travel alone.

But let's forget that, just to look at something off the beaten path ... imagine if you had a vehicle that's in no way compact, that does not seat just one or two ... that isn't a full cage! Imagine if it seated 5, or even 7 or 8, and had an open roof, and if you sat in it with friggin motorcycle helmets! Like a minivan convertible! And maybe with those "X"-style seatbelts too. Oh ... wait ... convertible minivans already exist.

I should make one, with polygons and shit, maybe for Trigger Rally.

Though I'm not sure what effect a convertible actually has on fuel consumption.
Rachael Ray - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 18:21:38 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4874532 Ignore Report Reply
No. But at this point plant based anything tastes better than meat. Last time I ate red meat 5 years ago. Haven't had any chicken or fish since 2 years ago or something. But red meat was always gross and sausage in particular fucking disgusting even while I ate red meat.
Keith Floyd - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 18:46:32 EST di2U2CFB No.4874542 Ignore Report Reply

There's a company called Beyond Meat that I was going to invest in, but I didn't because I listened to a stupid, random internet critic who said it was overpriced.

Now the stock price has more than doubled, and I'm sitting here like a rube. A RUBE.

at least I still have my Canadian weed stocks
Tim Minear - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 19:25:04 EST vQCPEDej No.4874551 Ignore Report Reply
yeah my work started selling that shit because we heavily cater to shitty vegan crowds
Nada - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 22:49:14 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4874598 Ignore Report Reply
Well of course you became a vegetarian, you never liked meat in the first place!
Ferran Adrià - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 23:27:42 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4874619 Ignore Report Reply
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>yeah my work started selling that shit because we heavily cater to shitty vegan crowds
Oliver Wallerbore - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 01:45:07 EST bLztUdvw No.4874644 Ignore Report Reply
Whoa, look at the proud psycho! As if wasn't obvious enough that the idiotic vegaboo lifestyle is just a load of bullshit shoved by people for the express purpose of encouraging misery. Nice way to show off that you can't tell the difference between humans and animals and are just upset that you can't eat humans, among whatever other reasons you pretend to not eat meat to egg people on to be weak and hateful and cultistic.
Arno Penzias - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:51:22 EST xgpe6wUh No.4874649 Ignore Report Reply
>3 lines of anger that other people eat in a way that doesnt damage the climate or animals
think your priorities may need reevaluation
or just go back to 4chin, wtf is "vegaboo" lmao no actual non-neckbeard has ever said that
Claude Troisgros - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 03:09:58 EST 8mNWSAHv No.4874650 Ignore Report Reply
Show me on the doll where vegetables touched you.

I'm carnivorous, but those impossible burgers are pretty good.
Umawuma Filangey - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 03:14:06 EST NCJVq9kO No.4874651 Ignore Report Reply
Do you think it's veeg-uh-boo or vej-uh-boo?
Matt Serra - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 03:50:13 EST CahqI1lB No.4874655 Ignore Report Reply
I was just laughing at you because you sounded mildly butthurt. I had no idea you're actually enthusiastic or some kind of retarded and that butthurt. So let me laugh at you some more about this. Serve me my veggie burgers, boy.
Oliver Wallerbore - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 03:50:58 EST bLztUdvw No.4874656 Ignore Report Reply
Wait, what????? What did you just say??? You've got some goddamn explaining to do!!

What are you saying, that veganism puts people into comas, which they only slip out of at rare times to go online? Or do they have an internet connection wired to their nervous system while they are in a coma? And who is the other twerp in a vegative state besides that particular one I responded to? Or are you trying to convince me it's literally vegatables that are listening to "hip to be square" and itching to blare it at me?
Veeg-aboo. Distinct from vegetard. It's not nearly as confusing as, say, Chiaboo versus Japanda.
I'm not the one who was setting up for "czecking them" or whatever. Nice try, it's obvious that 4chinks would say soyboys like poltards on non-chan sites.

But it's even cuter that you rave about raging meat-contempt magically making someone into not a member of an industrial society anymore, right after some smartasses established just how little it does towards that just a few posts above! It's like a Fox news segment on "a low carbon diet", which opens with the proclamation "buying foods that have been shipped in from somewhat less far is actually making a difference unlike all the other environmentalist expectations which are just posturing and whining.. Yes I'm serious with that comparitive reference, and yes, I actually remember an inane thing like that precisely.
Matt Serra - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 03:51:37 EST CahqI1lB No.4874657 Ignore Report Reply
Oh wait yo8re not even the same person you're just some random 4cancer retard
Oliver Wallerbore - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 03:57:17 EST bLztUdvw No.4874659 Ignore Report Reply
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I don't serve no-one any burgers. I don't dick around with any pretentious archaic cooking fire. If you're insistant about talking about fire, look a few posts down at the thread with a "quiz.com" link at the start.
Matt Serra - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 04:01:06 EST CahqI1lB No.4874661 Ignore Report Reply
I said serve me my veggie burger and sweet potato fries
Oliver Wallerbore - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 04:14:14 EST bLztUdvw No.4874664 Ignore Report Reply
I don't roleplay with anyone either, I piss on you cretins that get sore to roleplay as capitalists or gulag heroes.

Uh-oh ... shit ... that's a problematic thing to say after you've just gloated about your fondness for foods that teenagers hocked into!
Vagina McPenison - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 04:31:51 EST 32u2rsMY No.4874669 Ignore Report Reply
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What do vegans think about things like management of animal populations that can need it for various reasons, such as whitetail deer in areas of high density and low predation, Not monitoring and culling these populations at all can lead to some serious problems, for not only that animal, but the whole ecosystem in the area, and us as well.

Or invasive species such as hogs which are literally to blame for causing certain species of animals such as some salamanders, to become endangered, as with pythons vs the birds and small mammals and reptiles in the everglades, and all sorts of other invasive species and animals that will wreck entire ecosystems if just let to breed unchecked without proper management of the populations.

i'm guessing at least the militant types of these guys might not want to think you can do such a thing ethically and would even protest it being done, but do the reasonable vegans realize that it's something that is necessary, and that it would be a real shame to let the meat go to waste or to just let the animals die on their own from improper management, like via mass starvation in a population of deer that gets out of control and can't be supported by the resources of that ecosystem?

How do you berry pickers feel about such issues?
Oliver Wallerbore - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 04:44:00 EST bLztUdvw No.4874672 Ignore Report Reply
>Or invasive species such as hogs which are literally to blame for causing certain species of animals such as some salamanders, to become endangered

Holy fucking shit, everybody is whining about this! Why don't you just take well behaved peaceful passive people and force them to use guns while you're at it! Everybody is fucking whining about the poor oppressed trees, such as the guy who's out to sell some sort of green item as well as the green party guy and the general-lefty guy running against a big name green party guy. Everyone's just racing to outbullshit each other.

Just bring in some fucking tigers to go after them!
Hydra - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:03:16 EST nJkrco7e No.4874699 Ignore Report Reply
>What do vegans think about things like management of animal populations that can need it for various reasons, such as whitetail deer in areas of high density and low predation, Not monitoring and culling these populations at all can lead to some serious problems, for not only that animal, but the whole ecosystem in the area, and us as well.
Reintroduce their original predators.
>Or invasive species such as hogs
You could just trap them and ship them back to their native lands if you were actually trying to be ethical instead of just making up excuses to shoot things. Or sterilise them, that would be logistically easier.
Oliver Wallerbore - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:16:02 EST bLztUdvw No.4874711 Ignore Report Reply
That's a righteous argument and all, but you are kowtowing to some vicious expectations by even taking it seriously, why are you validating notions that people deserve their preshus pristine "environments"? Why not just call people out for being ignorant of evolution?

Nobody is this gentle to people who prefer meat the civilized way, who actually give animals a home, actually support their populations in exchange for eating them. People who stick to the few animals which can actually tollerate humans instead of processing them as terrifying menaces, instead of having to have a whole fucking smoargasboard of meat-type options to just hop out and fucking grab as if they're theirs!
Ferran Adrià - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:30:59 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4874720 Ignore Report Reply
I'm saying you should fuck off back to your cesspool on 4cha
Vagina McPenison - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:58:14 EST 32u2rsMY No.4874771 Ignore Report Reply
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I'm not even trying to be ethical here, though that is one of the major goals. I'm just trying to say that regarding the management of animal populations, it is something that is absolutely necessary, especially when you are dealing with things like invasive species, or as you mentioned, areas where the vast majority of the predators have been wiped out.

I'm not trying to be difficult or anything here, I legit want to know how you guys feel about it, because it isn't something we can just ignore.

As for the hogs, there are literally millions in the US, they are invasive, they cause problems including threatening local ecosystems and species to the point of wiping them out if left completely unchecked. If you also think we can just round up several million wild hogs and then ship them across the ocean, good luck with that, but I think you aren't understanding the breadth of the task if you really think that's a solution.

Same with the pythons in Florida, they are decimating the everglades (which is a huge hub for all sorts of theratened bird species, whose number are now in decline because Florida is basically Micro-Jurassic Park at this point with all the invasive species that love the climate and are thriving). Local ecosystems are literally being destroyed because we've given them this gift that keeps on giving, and now it looks like we're gonna have to be forced to take some harsh measures or see these ecosystems totally go to shit eventually.

If we want to be responsible to our planet and to the animals, we can't just let this thing go wild and unchecked, it's our fault and if we can't find a way to fix it, entire ecosystems will be super fucked because of it.

So i'm just trying to figure out if there is some sort of a middle ground here, because I haven't yet seen any viable solutions provided that don't involve killing some of these animals off. I mean just look at deer, they are often attracted to the sorts of plants we humans put in our gardens and other aspects of things we create. So we are just going to re-introduce a shitload of bears, cougars, and wolves, into those areas? That will reduce the population sure, but this is an ongoing thing, and if we just say "well, lets put ourselves in the middle of it", it's gonna be a clusterfuck. So what do we do?

According to vegans, it seems they like to think they are on the ethical side of the argument because "we don't need to kill animals anymore due to our agricultural prowess". Well this is a situation dealing with animal culling that we really need to consider here, because doing nothing at all is certainly unethical, since we created these problems. What type of
Vagina McPenison - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:39:58 EST 32u2rsMY No.4874802 Ignore Report Reply

last sentence should be something like "what type of options do we have"

im high, there was a lot of sketchy writing in there.
i do want to know if we have answers to these sorts of questions though
Caroline Pusslecocke - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:31:50 EST HGwITWea No.4874875 Ignore Report Reply
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Consume all animal life
Leave the planet on organically sourced ships
Hydra - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:36:13 EST nJkrco7e No.4874877 Ignore Report Reply
None of what you said makes reintroducing the original predators a bad idea. Get something that eats hogs I guess. Their population will collapse when they've eaten all of them.
Ecology is super fucking complex. You know that people killing all the bears means that there's significantly fewer mushrooms (that grow from the places bears have clawed trees) which has a huge negative impact on bees which pollinate all our food and ... well pretty much everything else?
Vagina McPenison - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:34:19 EST 32u2rsMY No.4874917 Ignore Report Reply
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, and I totally agree that removing the predators is in itself a big part of the problem. I'm saying that with an invasive species like hogs, that breeds at the rate they do and can survive in the conditions they do and all other things considered, that it just isn't likely to be enough when you consider it by the numbers.
There are currently invasive hogs in places where bears exist, and it doesn't just wipe them out. Florida has bunches of them even though gators will eat them.
Gators will eat pythons too (and vice versus). It doesn't solve the problem that we still have loads of gators.

So what else can we do that would be friendly to an ethical as agenda as possible that would satisfy both vegans and non-vegans? Because it's certainly not ethical to just say "well we don't want to kill any animals, so we're just going to let the invasive species we introduced run wild and let nature figure out the problem we created"
Ferran Adrià - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:06:05 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4874925 Ignore Report Reply
This is...actually a really oddly efficient and stripped down essence of my entire plan. All tyranids missing is space mysticism. They have already achieved full space socialism and anarcho primitivism at same time, and I guess it could be said they are technically taking genetic inventories and leaving the planet with them in space arks. Sort of.
Ian Dummerstone - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:33:07 EST a5weZRBr No.4874935 Ignore Report Reply
The trouble is not so much in what we're thinking about the world we live in, it's in terms of how we think about the world we live in. Imagine entering a theoretical world where everythig in existence, at all scales, has equal value from skyscrapers and trees, to humans, cola, cups, and orangutans, shoes, and suitcases, vessels, water, diamonds, and dragonflies. Even time itself. If we can imagine every thing is intrinsically equal, then we'd know that what we percieve as reality comes from the value judgments that exist in our minds.

If everything exists in the same way, then we have an interesting problem. If it'd true that even just by existing I am killing a huge number of life forms, then I have to figure out what kinds of life forms I'd like to kill, and I have to be rather conscious and explicit about it, and being conscious and explicit about stuff is an incredible drag. There's always an intended consequence of what you're doing, for example. Reality is happening on a number of different scales, and all at once. You can never get it completely right, so we're confronted again with the notion of exploring various different shades of hypocrisy.

  • biochemist and philosopher
Jesus Hayzeus - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:37:21 EST B9upxW92 No.4874939 Ignore Report Reply
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Death is Life
Life is Death
Ian Dummerstone - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:38:15 EST a5weZRBr No.4874940 Ignore Report Reply
We may have a very well developed conscious mind today, with a lot of knowledge, cultural knowledge, technical knowledge, but the way we think is still very much influenced by a primitive unconscious that we developed millions of years ago.
Youngster Shit - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 18:22:01 EST yIDfNVtU No.4874964 Ignore Report Reply
de Maistre was a retard and so is your little deepity.
Keith Jardine - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 02:38:16 EST bLztUdvw No.4875150 Ignore Report Reply
You were already told, just introduce fucking tigers! They'll rip through the hogs like hot knives through lard! Oh, is that not fast enough for you, okay, fine, make it cheetahs!
It's painfully clear that it's you needing to go back to your stormfront-/tv/ or stormfront/patrician/ or stormfront-/vegapaleorawgoreanorexic/.
You nasty freak, you want people eating fucking lizards? Get a dose of perspective, snakes are so obviously unfit for eating, it's like all people of all faiths can harmoniously agree that they're absolutely Haram! Or maybe you have a fetish for women in snakeskin. Or is that men in snakeskin?

Just bring in some species from Madagascar and Indonesia. Kill two birds with one stone ... errr, kill a reptile and save a bird from the tropical jungles. Or kill a reptile, save a lemur and save two local birds with just one stone.
Raymond Goucho - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 06:29:57 EST vQCPEDej No.4875178 Ignore Report Reply
I've had snake and gator

they was aight
Keith Jardine - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 07:11:37 EST bLztUdvw No.4875188 Ignore Report Reply
I'll believe you on the snake thing. I hear they can eat eggs, that sounds like it might be a feasible thing to farm them off of, helped by the fact that they move so little.

And if you're saying you've had that Vagina is speaking off, I guess I'll believe that too, it's specific about it being just in one particular weird place with reasons for why shit would be abnormal.

But the "wild hogs" wreacking havoc on the whole country? Now that's just ridiculous. Just hear what that's saying. "Free pork, free pork, assloads and assloads of free pork that we're craving to let you have!". Now that ... that I'm not gonna buy. People like pork! At least normal people do. If there was assloads upon assloads of free pork up for grabs everywhere, we would have been hearing about it! I expect lots of people around would refuse to buy that story!
CyrilWemblewark.asc - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 07:42:10 EST 3MEGQ7k4 No.4875197 Ignore Report Reply
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Sounds like they need an open season on tasty invasive species.
CyrilWemblewark.asc - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 07:45:11 EST 3MEGQ7k4 No.4875198 Ignore Report Reply
Problem is these hogs can take a beating and they're dangerous game that can decide to gang up on you if you shoot one of them. It's true, florida has a wild hog problem. The problem is the hogs are so aggressive, they might eat you.

Yeah. Gator is delicious. Haven't ever eaten a snake, but I imagine they're similar.
Pack Blowfist - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 08:04:56 EST kEZHqhnm No.4875203 Ignore Report Reply
Why do rednecks think that you can't be vegan and understand the importance of wildlife management? Is it because they have smooth brains? Too much spray paint in their lungs?
CharlottePundlefield.html - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 08:47:23 EST 32u2rsMY No.4875214 Ignore Report Reply
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No doubt. For anyone who doubts how tough those suckers can be check this out

FAIR WARNING - if you don't want to see a wild hog take a magazine of .45acp, don't click it because that's exactly what happens.

Cyrus - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 09:55:31 EST JcT1++GB No.4875228 Ignore Report Reply
>if you don't want to see a wild hog take a magazine of .45acp, don't click it because that's exactly what happens

Alere Little Feather - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:27:06 EST HNV7NveR No.4875298 Ignore Report Reply
Holy shit! Now I'm pro-2nd amendment and large magazines. really though, fuck that pig. It's an invasive species
ErnestCillymin.raw - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 13:20:32 EST EuiLGEDI No.4875317 Ignore Report Reply
Holy shit
CyrilWemblewark.asc - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:18:14 EST 3MEGQ7k4 No.4875388 Ignore Report Reply
I'd have so much fucking bacon if I lived in the southern states. I hear most people don't like eating the hogs, but I figure if I'm going to shoot it, I'd better eat it and use as much of it as I can.
ClaraSibberstone.txt - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:37:03 EST bLztUdvw No.4875787 Ignore Report Reply
Oh noes, the hogs are gonna organize! Like those dreadful elephants over in India! Newsflash, the elephants are getting swept out, and pigs are even punier!
.45 ACP? What the shit? Who uses .45ACP, you know what my assesment on that is? if your grandpa dashes out hunting these spectacular beasts of yours, he's bound to get in over his head whether he uses his own gun like you say, or an actual new gun!

These days, we have fucking assault guns all over the place. Like, 10mm auto. You may think that your "tommy gun bullet" qualifies, but not when it's crushed down into a tiny puny handgun. Now, if you had a P90, let's see your hog require a whole magazine of that!

Sure, there's posturing cockheads out there who need to go out "handgun hunting", but that's done with like a fucking desert eagle. Not honest.
Antoni Hardonk - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 07:22:42 EST 6MEU5ksT No.4875789 Ignore Report Reply
bad bait
ClaraSibberstone.txt - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 07:50:41 EST bLztUdvw No.4875793 Ignore Report Reply
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More like .45ACP is bait. Clearly it lacks practical use, people just keep it around for sentimental reasons, I guess it serves as a very good excuse for why these mystical pigs aren't just getting scooped up.

Maybe try, like, .45 *magnum*, if you are a gun nut and need to spread stories about pigs all around needing to be faced. Or .45 SOCOM.

Just because people here understand hunting being wrong, that's no reason to believe crazy stuff about it being impossible. Unless it's because there's just not much out there to hunt.
Tyler Reks - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:30:59 EST dfjs2jQq No.4875893 Ignore Report Reply
This is someone who understands the old ways. Keep an eye on him. This is usenet level.
Charles Messier - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 22:45:25 EST j5AfjsTO No.4877357 Ignore Report Reply
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Bastille Day.. yeah
NigelBlickleville.dun - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:24:10 EST eWjEO6Tj No.4877724 Ignore Report Reply
time for crepes
Connor Brapsack - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:36:16 EST yUwOsz8/ No.4877736 Ignore Report Reply
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beignets, bitch
Guy Savoy - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:36:54 EST 78SC6Qxd No.4877737 Ignore Report Reply
i just made crepes and had no idea
Amaterasu - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:25:51 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4877753 Ignore Report Reply
Blini. They are called blini. French stole it from Russia during horrible defeat of invading Russia.
Cole Miller - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 19:03:09 EST T4SpvBYn No.4877767 Ignore Report Reply
They look like beignets to me.
Amaterasu - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 19:11:58 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4877768 Ignore Report Reply
No, the other fellow was talking about blini. What is pictured is fritters.
Frankie Edgar - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 06:52:32 EST B1qsuH7g No.4878621 Ignore Report Reply
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Aqua Leader Alice - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:23:41 EST bLztUdvw No.4878880 Ignore Report Reply
I can't believe how delusional people here can be! How some people just refuse to get shit!

"Arrrrgghh, arrrggh, arrgh! Pigs are such a horrific menace! They're taking over the country and the native species are doomed, doooooomed! And they're too horrifying to even look at cause they'll gang up on us!" What a crafted load of bullshit. They're pork, you find people who want pork, and you go out and get pork.

You find 5 close acquaintances. With 4 guns. And get 3 pigs.

You likely just need one person with a serious rifle that fires a bullet *at high speed*. Something like .22 mach4 or .223 (rifle)magnum or .25 hornet or .22 eargesplittenloudenboomer. And a second person with any other proper rifle. But if you have to have someone dicking around handgun hunting, do go ahead and include a 3rd person with one in .327 maximum. And you want to insist on challenging pigs with a handgun meant for use against people, from some esoteric century before this one and even before the last one, you can include a 4th person with a .380 ACP saturday night special or whatever.

You'd only probably need one person with a serious gun to shoot pork for a bunch, the others would only be needed for safety, to speed up the harvesting process, to learn and for intimidation.

But nobody can acknowledge this cause that'll just clarify what a load of hogwash these stories of pigs running around everywhere are.
Yoshihiro Takayama - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:54:45 EST Br313oe9 No.4878892 Ignore Report Reply
What do we do with Bitches like you? We always know who you are by your intake psych eval. We slap Mommy's tit out of your mouth, and become the Father you should have had. We strap a parachute on your sorry ass and kick you in the cunt so hard you arc out at 18,000 feet. Whether you survive depends on whether you can remember how to deploy the chute. We have 1001 ways to kick you in the cunt repeatedly until that gash becomes a pair of balls. We turn you in to the killer you only think you are. Then, we send you on a suicide mission. We know Leftist cowards sociopaths have an extremely strong sense of self preservation that trumps all human norms of empathy. You always get the highest body count before you are finally overrun and removed from the gene pool by the enemy.
Your going to war you useless waste of skin FAGGOT!
Aqua Leader Alice - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 21:31:49 EST bLztUdvw No.4878904 Ignore Report Reply
Oooooh, someone is fanatically biased against pork and reason and wants to show us the superiority of his regurgitated word salad!
Gabriel Leavings - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 21:37:44 EST MA4EkIvU No.4878905 Ignore Report Reply
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Nah, dude. THIS is how you deal with wild invasive pigs.
Rebecca Fudgechodge - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 22:00:46 EST jx2DliDy No.4878906 Ignore Report Reply
It's incredible how quickly they sensed the falling cage and ran, and even more amazing how it closes just in time to not allow for escape
James Elliott - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 22:28:54 EST Ng2tXNuc No.4878914 Ignore Report Reply
I'm pretty sure it's sped up just a smidge, but yes, it's really amazing how exact that cage's mechanism are based on how close those pigs got to escaping. And how they sensed it so fast.
Yoshihiro Takayama - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 22:58:21 EST Br313oe9 No.4878925 Ignore Report Reply
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Naw man I was doing copypasta. Weren't you... owo
Aqua Leader Alice - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 02:24:32 EST bLztUdvw No.4878979 Ignore Report Reply
Well ... I guess it seems to work.I guess it's off the the farms with them afterwards, right?
Or maybe they adjust the bait dose so that the right number of the are there?
I'm not big on cooking noodles, I mean, I could probably figure out pasta if I needed to, but I'm not Italian, and the ethnic food establishments around obviously hire only appropriate people anyway. Honestly, I'd get nervous about trying to prepare pork pasta.
Phyllis Noddlefield - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 05:34:15 EST qkrRl0VW No.4879000 Ignore Report Reply
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That's the worst take I've ever heard. Everything's backwards.

Also Texas barbecue is amazing. I'd never give it up.
Penis McHard - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 06:32:40 EST L8No0HMc No.4879005 Ignore Report Reply
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I find it really impressive how the meat industry successfully convinced everyone that meat -- ie just one insignificant item in an endless list of shit that's tasty -- is not only the only thing that's tasty, but also that your life is torture if you try to abandon meat. It's almost like seeing 10 mcdonalds ads in your way to work fucks up your brain. Also, it comes from the meat tree and no animals or people are ever harmed and if you question it you're virtue signaling.
Sarah Sisko - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 06:33:19 EST lilx6tUN No.4879006 Ignore Report Reply
plz dont post that. We had rly good texas BBQ in my town but now its gone.
Dome Ace Reuben - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 07:01:37 EST JAabUWi9 No.4879010 Ignore Report Reply
>everyone is a slave to advertising but me, nobody could ever make the conscious choice to do something I disagree with!
pseud nb
Stallrein Hailsbury - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 07:42:01 EST 9BM/9OmI No.4879018 Ignore Report Reply
I'm sure you use the same fucking roads as everyone else and see the same signs. So either advertising isn't some thought virus forcing you consume meat or you're screeching and covering your eyes as some sort of warding against invasive advertising. Do you just never leave the basement? Maybe it's a force field powered purely by your own smug self satisfaction deflecting harmful advertising rays?
Aqua Leader Alice - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 07:52:59 EST bLztUdvw No.4879022 Ignore Report Reply
You alarmist nutcase! Your scare stories about horrendous corporate all-reaching influence are total bullshit! I can't remember anyone having that kind of attitude about any burger or whatever. On the other hand, I knew someone who would say he had a perverse level of fondness for McFluries. i also knew some people who would go to mcdonalds for the ice cream cones or sundaes. I've also known someone who would talk often about the troublesomeness of her cravings for cadbury's creme eggs and coca cola.
Yoshihiro Takayama - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:58:02 EST Br313oe9 No.4879044 Ignore Report Reply
Calm yourself. There are trillions of dollars dedicated right now to get you to buy a variety of products for a variety of reasons. Will you become this unhinged over all of them?
Penis McHard - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:01:24 EST L8No0HMc No.4879054 Ignore Report Reply
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wtf nigga, I never said that I'm immune to advertising, what are you talking about? I'm saying that all of these countless mcdonalds ads wouldn't even be there if they didn't make a shitload of people wanna eat that nasty shit.
Gary Goodridge - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 01:41:50 EST QLTOtYac No.4879418 Ignore Report Reply
She's doing it wrong, then.

Samantha Shorkey! https://www.peta.org/living/food/vegan-bodybuilders/
Or Laurel Fredette or Erin Fergus. Thanks for the pic.
Veteran Lillian - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:45:34 EST bLztUdvw No.4879460 Ignore Report Reply
That's not the point! The point is that some pigheaded lowlife feels compelled to attack something iconic!! He attacks stuff because he craves attacking something that means something to a lot of people. And that kind of action is just ... not normal! And aside from that, it happens to be baseless.

So the point is he's full of shit, he's outrageous. I mean, someone like him could conceivably attack McDonalds fries, and for what? Just because they used to be cooked in tallow?!? He might even also attack the milkshakes, though at least people concerned would be able to sleep well knowing that no one would be hating on McDonalds milkshakes if they were made with soymilk and/or ricemilk. But then he'd be meanly gloating about no one ever conceivably wanting to have soy/ricemilkshakes!

And now he's too chickenshit to respond! Isn't that disappointing?
ArchieHanningwed.sh - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:07:16 EST LkkyNueO No.4879466 Ignore Report Reply
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>He attacks stuff because he craves attacking something that means something to a lot of people. And that kind of action is just ... not normal!
It's almost as if the sort of word for someone whose life consists of an anti-icon stance might have its own word in the English language so that we may talk about it with precision!
Veteran Lillian - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:19:09 EST bLztUdvw No.4879471 Ignore Report Reply
Tightwad? Priss? Snob? Hipster? Quack?
Charles Ranhofer - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:59:41 EST 9BF3vRZ7 No.4879475 Ignore Report Reply
When is this fucking thread going to die
Tetra - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:15:48 EST L8No0HMc No.4879481 Ignore Report Reply
When everyone stops eating meat, even lions and shit. And you gotta whip yourself if you ever ate meat.
Charles Ranhofer - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:33:24 EST 9BF3vRZ7 No.4879486 Ignore Report Reply
Oh so it's just been the retarded brazilian bumping this every time, that clears things up. Get a life.
Fucking Blythehood - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:38:33 EST AhfA3TCi No.4879490 Ignore Report Reply
and here I thought he fucking left.. fucking hell. I hate that fucking dude.
Toki Wartooth - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:05:29 EST d2TzRlme No.4879499 Ignore Report Reply
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How bout I just eat an equivalent amount of sustainably and humanely killed wildlife as was displaced and now no longer existing to build your Soy fields?

The Amazon (this is a huge rainforest not just a website) is being bulldozed for crops and here you are turning it into a super high profit margin market by buying your ultra-hipster veggie jerky and gluten-free paleo fruit steaks and lettuce açaí lasagne.

There is a lot of good that going vegan, or even just making an effort to lean more vegetarian, can do for the environment, but there’s a lot more factors that you have to consider about your life before you put on the cape of passive aggressive moral holiness that vegans love to wear.

If I were to live on a small and efficient farm that uses as much of its waste as possible for compost and pig slop and all, and you lived it up big and had a much larger carbon footprint and use multiple single use plastics everyday and have a 3 hour daily commute, etc, and think it’s all ok because you don’t eat meat and drive a Prius, it’s kind of just jerking yourself off a bit you know?

I guess we all have to decide what unique contribution we can make, but my point is that if you’re coming from the angle of vegans being the only people who can be conscious of the environment, it just isn’t true, and depending on the lifestyles involved in either side, it can even be worse than someone who is eating meat (and I’m not talked by about factory farmed stuff, clearly that’s hugely problematic, but that’s not the only way to get meat), but also thinking of the big picture rather than just going full “muh animals” while maybe not thinking so much about the bigger picture outside of that issue.
Tetra - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:04:38 EST L8No0HMc No.4879530 Ignore Report Reply
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>How bout I just eat an equivalent amount of sustainably and humanely killed wildlife as was displaced and now no longer existing to build your Soy fields?
>but my point is that if you’re coming from the angle of vegans being the only people who can be conscious of the environment

Sounds fair, if you have this option. Hunting seems like possibly the most ethical and the most environment-friendly option, but I guess (I haven't looked it up yet) that most people don't live near a spot with an overpopulation of edible wild animals that need to be controlled through hunting, it sounds like an specific scenario.

>The Amazon [...] is being bulldozed for crops and blah blah blah

Farmed animals eat more grains than humans; there'd be less deforestation if the meat industry was smaller, not the other way around.

>If I were to live on a small and efficient [...], and you lived it up big and blah blah blah

No. We'd have no idea how you're treating your animals and how you're killing them (we almost never do in the meat industry in general) and you have no reason not to treat your animals like objects when its cheaper to do it and since no one cares if you do. So if you have your farm and you're killing your own animals I have no reason to believe without evidence that you're not treating your animals cruelly, I will in fact assume that you are, since it's cheaper and easier to be cruel. Hiring a professional veterinarian to castrate your animals costs a lot of money; using anesthesia to perform operations on your animals costs a lot of money; having infrastructure and space to keep your animals in comfortable temperatures costs a lot of money and effort; the list goes on. Farmers -- small or big -- will cut every corner they can because they have no reason not to.
Jean-Baptiste Troisgros - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:29:02 EST ArWxRLGP No.4879534 Ignore Report Reply
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>How bout I just eat an equivalent amount of sustainably and humanely killed wildlife as was displaced and now no longer existing to build your Soy fields?
>an equivalent amount
Not likely.
Toki Wartooth - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:41:17 EST d2TzRlme No.4879541 Ignore Report Reply
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There’s a couple things I agree with you on, but there are some misconceptions from your perspective as well.
Pigs for example, as I mentioned previous, can feed on slop, basically everything from brewery byproduct to restaurant scraps and etc. you can feed them entirely on waste.

The fact that you think all farms, even small farms, mistreat their animals just isn’t reasonable or reflective of reality at all though. Those who are, fuckem, but I’m not talking about them no matter what the size of their operations are. Most people don’t get into farming because they are sociopaths though who will cut any corner at the expense of the animals, that’s the factory farming type of mentality. I’ve grown up close to some farmers and farm animals and their farms, including in the family where I’ve dealt with them personally, and I think you’d be surprised at the lengths some will go to ensure their animals are well-kept.

There are also plenty of people who just have setups such as a small veggie garden and chicken coup for their eggs, so both of those aspects of their life could be less environmentally damaging than say, a vegan who buys all their foodstuffs from big farms across the country in plastic packaging.

Im not trying to down veganism itself, my point is that there is nuance to the issue and that it is certainly possible to be a vegan with a greater negative impact on the environment than a meat eater, depending on how they go about their individual lifestyles.
It’s just something to think about before looking down on others and giving them the whole “I’m captain veganism, savior of earth” treatment that I see so often, because there is a lot that comes into play here beyond just “do you eat animal products or no”.
Jason Brilz - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:44:01 EST ePBPuvQ3 No.4879544 Ignore Report Reply
Does the land use include pastures that are otherwise poor land for growing?
Toki Wartooth - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:56:09 EST d2TzRlme No.4879550 Ignore Report Reply
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The key term was wildlife. Where so many huge farms are now, there used to be wildlife. So what was better, culling some each season for meat, or wiping the populations out entirely because apparently hunting them is bad but wiping them out entirely in that area is good?

The forests are way better for the environment than just 50 acres of whatever crop, so is sustainably managed hunting really the king here as far as being superior when it comes to protecting the environment?
Fred Whipple - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:16:48 EST 5TaGOM8I No.4879565 Ignore Report Reply
>The key term was wildlife
Yeah, and wildlife is going to produce even less food per unit of land than livestock would, because wildlife does not exist solely to produce edible food for humans. Wildlife doesn't give a shit about sustaining us.

Not if you're under delusion that you can "eat an equivalent amount" on the same amount of land.

You can have your sustainable idyllic prelapsarian hunter-gatherer lifestyle, or you can "eat an equivalent amount". You can't have both. There's a reason why pastoral and agricultural societies sustain much larger populations than hunter-gatherer societies. Because they cannot produce anywhere near an equivalent amount as nature-destroying agriculture.
Dory Funk Jr. - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:34:42 EST 32u2rsMY No.4879574 Ignore Report Reply
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I never said you can have a greater harvest of either meat or vegetables for that matter, on wild lands.
What I said was that if a Vegan person wants to come from the angle of being the ultimate moral winner of the situation, just because they don't eat animal products, that there are plenty of lifestyle choices they could make so that it just isn't the case.
Such as, if someone chooses to eat meat, but eats pigs raised on products that would otherwise go to waste, or cattle that he mostly has in order to keep his pasture trimmed up.
There will be some methane release and such to factor in, but all in all i'd think that's much more carbon neutral than growing crops and shipping them across the country, especially if they are grown in some of the many areas which do not sustain crops without major and excessive irrigation.
So can the vegan still claim the "pro-environment" moral high ground in such a case?

It's about how much sacrifice you're willing to make and how you are living your life more than it is just about "I don't eat meat and so i'm automatically more environmentally friendly than anyone who does". That's the major misconception of veganism, and it's bullshit that so many of them act smug when they may not even be doing the world nearly as much of a favor as maybe some other guy who lives a life that is more conscious and accommodating of these other factors, even if they still eat some animal products too.
Carlos Newton - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:37:46 EST HFHUv8bS No.4879575 Ignore Report Reply

But we shouldn't be eating as much meat as we do. Fish are alright in large quantities for reasons, but the amount of land and crops required to house and feed cows alone is insane. We'll either figure out the right way or destroy the habitability of yon earf. It's whatever. I mean, the amount of crops grown just to feed the livestock is ball sack nuts.

Maybe we need soylent green. Eat the rich and poor. Something has to give.
BarnabyBlytheson.swf - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:58:05 EST w8EtYpOn No.4879583 Ignore Report Reply
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>Fish are alright in large quantities
Guess again, we polluted the fuck out of the fish. You have to limit your consumption.
Subcommander Velal - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:00:20 EST mx7pXTC9 No.4879584 Ignore Report Reply

Fuck meat and veggies, I wanna eat that ass. Best option for the environment too.
Tetra - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:04:20 EST L8No0HMc No.4879587 Ignore Report Reply
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>The fact that you think all farms, even small farms, mistreat their animals just isn’t reasonable or reflective of reality at all though.

You couldn't possibly know that, and that's the problem. You're making an unfalsifiable claim. The only way to ensure that farmers aren't doing what they're financially encouraged to do (treating their animals cruelly) is to have surveillance cameras at every single farm with animals and millions of agents watching that footage 24/7 -- it's almost impossible. And again, I have no reason to have blind faith in a bunch of farmers I don't know and will never know, specially when humans are so very often lacking in empathy and/or the ingenuity required to properly dealing with other living beings. That's also an issue, ingenuity. Even the most empathetic and nice farmer more often than not lacks the knowledge required to deal with animals, such as knowing what temperatures and environments are uncomfortable or harmful for the animals, how to protect them from predators and diseases, how to detect diseases, how to break and avoid fights between the animals etc.

I have grown around farmers too. I've been in a seemingly good farm, and also in a terribly bad one in which I witnessed some really fucked up shit.

>I think you’d be surprised at the lengths some will go to ensure their animals are well-kept.

This is the part that I think is the oddest. Even if you're willing and capable of giving your farmed animals reasonably good lives and deaths, why would you go through all of this trouble? Just to eat meat? That nasty bleedy shit that you gotta cook and season to make taste good and that you can almost perfectly fake using other shit? That's one really inneficient and goofy way to get your food; giving a shitton of food and water to your food so you can patiently wait for years and kill your food to eat it. Why not cut the middle-man and just eat shit from the ground, nigga? It's just so silly that our culture thinks that this really esoteric hassle is a necessity when the whole thing is so obviously pointless.
Masahiro Chono - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:33:45 EST lilx6tUN No.4879590 Ignore Report Reply
got some meat in the oven rn
Fucking Blythehood - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:37:38 EST AhfA3TCi No.4879591 Ignore Report Reply
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Wilhelm Beer - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:47:26 EST di2U2CFB No.4879596 Ignore Report Reply
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No wonder Manny Pacquiao married that woman
BarnabyBlytheson.swf - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:48:58 EST w8EtYpOn No.4879597 Ignore Report Reply
Why do you argue about what's cruel and what's not? Raising an animal that's born to be eaten sounds pretty brutal when you put it that way. Meanwhile the person you're arguing against thinks that by not eating meat they're not participating in that cruelty which is the fiction that most of them tell themselves. There's no ethical consumption of anything in this society. It's nothing but babbling about nonsense when humans beat their meat flaps together to talk about levels of cruelty, life is a cruel process. Don't hold things up as cruel unless you really believe reducing cruelty is a value that you express.
Fred Whipple - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:55:43 EST 5TaGOM8I No.4879599 Ignore Report Reply
>Such as, if someone chooses to eat meat, but eats pigs raised on products that would otherwise go to waste, or cattle that he mostly has in order to keep his pasture trimmed up.
>his pasture
Do you really need it explained to you why this isn't a feasible choice for most of humanity?

>There will be some methane release and such to factor in, but all in all i'd think that's much more carbon neutral than growing crops and shipping them across the country, especially if they are grown in some of the many areas which do not sustain crops without major and excessive irrigation.
Not unless this plan involves killing off most of the human population first, no.

I don't get how this is so complicated. It takes much more energy to produce a given quantity of meat. It generates more carbon to produce meat, which doesn't just disappear because you "factored it in". It takes more resources to store meat because of its increased perishability. It takes more land. The need to transport food across the country doesn't disappear in your hypothetical, it's just now way more expensive.

Your idea makes no sense either from an individual standpoint (for anyone who doesn't have spare pastures lying around I.e. most people) or from an economic standpoint.

>So can the vegan still claim the "pro-environment" moral high ground in such a case?
I don't care about morality arguments, but from a sustainability and environmental perspective growing plants is much more efficient than growing meat. Unless, again, your alternative also involves returning to hunter-gatherer levels of population and living standards.

I'm not even vegetarian, I eat a ton of meat, but in this respect the vegans are right.
Tetra - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:02:57 EST L8No0HMc No.4879603 Ignore Report Reply
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That's called civilization. We try to avoid raping, killing, torturing or needlessly harming each other in anyway. It's impossible to end cruelty, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't try. You nihilistic kiddies, man, swear to god.
Subcommander Velal - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:04:28 EST mx7pXTC9 No.4879604 Ignore Report Reply
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big booty bitches man that shit gon be death of me
Toki Wartooth - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:38:42 EST d2TzRlme No.4879616 Ignore Report Reply
Your adding things into my argument in order to dispute it, but it’s all claims I never made.

I think you’re getting the wrong idea here as thinking I’m just trying to say veganism in general sucks in a backhanded sort of way. I’m really not trying to dis it so much as I’m trying to say to both sides, let’s stop attacking each other based solely on the basis of whether one eats animal products or not, because the issue is much more complex and the outcomes of the carbon footprint can be different, and favoring either, depending on the specific situations. It’s not an argument of whether or not the whole planet is going to be capable or even willing to do that, because they won’t, but everyone has their own idea of what is extreme when steps they’ll go to for the environment - which results in some vegans potentially having a much larger carbon footprint than some animal consumers, dependent on these specifics.

Are many people going to consume animals and live in the way I mentioned as a hypothetical? Absolutely not. That isn’t the claim at all.

But when they do, and there are people who do, it can be done in such a way that it can be even more en environmentally friendly than the way average modern vegan is living. I’m simply presenting the idea that there is the possibility to do this, and that if someone does it, a vegan really has no right to claim the moral high ground regarding environmentalism, because that person consuming animals was willing to make greater sacrifices to the environment than a vegan who still needs their special products shipped in from some desert farm that’s gulping by water down like crazy and other not-so green friendly things, so if a guy is going into his land (land that he otherwise leaves to the animals and forests) to take some a couple deer , that act is less environmentally destructive, and even positive for the environment, even when compared to an instance such as someone growing a crop in an unnatural setting, or in the ways that big farms do, which takes shitloads more water than those crops really even need.
Toki Wartooth - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:52:08 EST d2TzRlme No.4879622 Ignore Report Reply
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So I can’t know that, but you can? You’re again talked by about big farming operations, which was really not what I was talking about at all. I think you guys have got so used to defending certain points that you’re seeing them even when they don’t exist lol.

So here’s an example that I saw growing up, there was a pasture adjacent to a relatives house, and then two on the other side and a real big one further down the road. Cows would be used to keep the grass reasonable in these plots and rotated to whichever one(s) were fallow that season. So the cows ate for free, kept the grass trimmed and would fertilize it with patties, and then eventually get eaten. There was nothing unnecessarily cruel about it, and they seemed to have a pride thing with keeping the animals in good condition.
You could be a shitty farmer, but again I have to state that I’m not talking about the whole picture, I’m talking about individual cases as they come, and there are cases like I’m talking about where people are eating meat but it’s still having less of a negative impact on the environment than a “whole foods” vegan will have, getting everything shipped to them from the desert farms out in the Midwest and whatever.

So if it’s really about protecting the environment, and you are a vegan who meets a person like that, don’t rag on them or look down on them, because they may be more eco friendly than you.
Mary Jane - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:12:39 EST SQGbAuUI No.4879647 Ignore Report Reply
Sure, it doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but the idea that one person holds any kind of moral superiority over another based on the degree or extent of their cruelty is a meaningless and invalid argument. Both of you are cruel, you're just drawing the line in a different place.
Howard Moon - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:36:11 EST OYJHH3Zt No.4879655 Ignore Report Reply
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Sounds almost like a, christian moral philosophy type of deal you're arguing here. Can a man not become decent? Are we always just going to be different levels of indecent and thus all guilty?...which I suppose is right anyway for just about any living thing except plants or something that could eat rocks and thus not need to go killing to survive.

but I do agree with the general principle that you should limit your cruelty as much as possible and that some kind of selfless charity working vegan who volunteers at a soup kitchen every weekend does have a high degree of moral superiority over a serial rapist and mass murderer
Mary Jane - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:46:21 EST SQGbAuUI No.4879658 Ignore Report Reply
Okay but what's your point on the path got to do with anyone else's point on the path? A man can become decent, look at these two legendary usenet gladiators battling it out over which of them is the superior human. Surely regardless of whether you can actually substantiate that claim in this context, what validity does that have when there are other avenues of consumption that both engage in which themselves are also cruel? Surely some third party, who would NEVER engage in any such deplorable behavior then be the superior human of the three? Do you see where that leads?
Tetra - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:14:20 EST L8No0HMc No.4879669 Ignore Report Reply
We're drawing the line roughly at the same place. Both meat eaters and vegetarians/vegans agree that the least animals inhumanely killed and the least environmental impact, the better. The difference is that meat eaters want to believe that a big meat industry kills less animals and impacts the environment less, since plantations of grains kill lots of small animals and do a good deal of environmental damage. What they forget is that farmed animals consume a fuckload more grains than humans do, therefore having no meat industry would be less cruel and damaging to the environment. There are many other reasons why the meat industry is fucked up, but I'm not talking about them all in this post for the sake of simplicity.

>So I can’t know that, but you can?

You made the claim. You have the burden of proof.

>So if it’s really about protecting the environment, and you are a vegan who meets a person like that, don’t rag on them or look down on them, because they may be more eco friendly than you.

Sure...? But why are you even saying this to me? Who are you arguing against? Did you see any vegan in the thread saying that farming animals isn't ethical under any single possible circumstance? Any vegan in this thread looking down on you? Show me where the vegans touched you. Like I said, I was raised in a family of farmers, and althouth I've seen some fucked up shit in my dad's friend's farm, my uncle's farm in particular seems to be pretty humane, and I do respect him. I'm a vegan, but that's because factory farming is obviously fucked up and because I have no reason to believe without evidence that small farms (that are not my uncle's farm) aren't cruel; doen't mean that I don't respect my uncle who has an apparently humane small farm.
Howard Moon - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:26:29 EST OYJHH3Zt No.4879673 Ignore Report Reply
No I don't understand what you're getting at actually. The one big thing about Christianity I find most completely retarded is the idea that a man cannot be morally superior to another man and that all crimes damn you to hell equally which is just fucking stupid to me. It's like saying everyone goes to the same jail regardless of whether you stole a Snickers bar or are in for triple homicide. I don't think one should lord their superiority over others because that is also a moral or character defect, but I think that just being a personable kind human being who takes care of wounded animals is far superior morally to some child molester who murdered his parents. In that regard yeah I think some people can be better than others. It may not be right to like, put a value on a human being or act like we're all inequal instead if just equals based on our fact of us all being human beings, but I hardly see the problem in a sort of Capitalist drive where everyone is competing and trying to be better than another. Like if instead of everyone sort of competing in the rat race for who has the most stuff and the most social standing that way, for the cultural drive to instead be all about who is the more upstanding person.

And yeah I know what you're gonna say about us all having different standards of decency and morality and I'm not talking about like not fucking before marriage or anything like that I'm just talking about all the things we can all factually agree on, like don't kill, dont steal, dont rape, dont cause unnecessary pain and suffering to others that can feel pain and suffering like for example a dog. Yeah, I am talking about treatment of animals being a kind of universal standing. Just about everyone in America agrees hurting puppies and kittens makes you comically villainous and evil. Pretty sure equestrians are the same way, and that at least in the olden days before cars caring well for your steed was a part if what it means to be an honorable and virtuous man or whatever. Wasn't that a part of chivalry?
Mary Jane - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 19:18:37 EST SQGbAuUI No.4879690 Ignore Report Reply
Okay so you're saying that whereas a person who rescues sea turtles can claim to be a better person than Jeff Dahmer, and I even granted you that, it's reasonable for vegans to look down on everyone else who is not vegan because consuming meat is more cruel than consuming plants. Farm working conditions alone and the state of health care for rural workers worldwide is a disaster and perennially in crisis, therefore since I only eat vegetables from my own garden I'm better than all of you. If you can explain to me that logic, I'll concede, but until then, I don't get why it's a valid argument. Also God's fake.
Why is it important for you to be morally superior?
Tetra - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 19:26:49 EST L8No0HMc No.4879691 Ignore Report Reply
What kind of question is that? And what do you even mean with this question?
JackMevingdutch.hqx - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 20:45:27 EST SQGbAuUI No.4879713 Ignore Report Reply
It's a valid question. You keep insisting in your moral superiority to him, whereas both of you are at two points along a continuum and neither of you are anywhere near the extents. So why is it so important for you to feel superior? What need does this fill in your life? Because you sound like your mind is on fire, all of your senses are woke, and for what? What are you trying to win?
Zoila Frausto - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:05:59 EST yUwOsz8/ No.4879718 Ignore Report Reply
We exist on a continuum, so that means relative differences don't exist?
Bart Simpson - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:13:02 EST L8No0HMc No.4879722 Ignore Report Reply
His question can be interpreted in many ways, that's what got me confused, I'm not saying it's invalid. And this is not about feeling superior, this is about reducing suffering in our world, I Iegitimately care about it and I really do wish that people would boycott the meat industry. I don't get why you'd think that this is just a game to us. Is the endless animal suffering that's going on so irrelevant to you that you can't understand why someone would be legitimately passionate about wanting to reduce it?
JackMevingdutch.hqx - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:15:24 EST SQGbAuUI No.4879724 Ignore Report Reply
What do you do in your life to decrease suffering in the world?
JackMevingdutch.hqx - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:21:46 EST SQGbAuUI No.4879725 Ignore Report Reply
The question is why those differences result in one of the two being a better person, because I content that's not valid.
Zoila Frausto - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 23:51:41 EST yUwOsz8/ No.4879778 Ignore Report Reply
I contend that if you take two people and put them on a scale, and the scale shows that one has murdered zero children and the other has murdered five children then, all else being equal, you could say person A is a far better person than person B.

It's the differences on the scale that people are measured by that determine if one is better than the other. If the scale is one of selfishness (amount of unnecessary resources spent on feeding person A vs person B), then you can make a similar judgement call.
Bart Simpson - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 04:24:33 EST L8No0HMc No.4879826 Ignore Report Reply
I boycott the meat industry and bitch on the internet about it so other people boycott it too. You might think that it's useless and that my money is nothing to them, but it really does matter. It's because some annoying and loud stoners bitching everywhere about weed being illegal for no reason that weed is finally starting to not be a huge taboo in many countries.
Hans McKiffer - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 06:37:00 EST CpKB2xcY No.4879849 Ignore Report Reply
LOL wow I'm glad thinking about it that way makes you feel superior to everyone without having to do anything. Good for you taking a shortcut to feeling good.
Aloucious McBreeze - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 06:57:33 EST 9eNhLiJ3 No.4879853 Ignore Report Reply
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Did you read anything that I wrote? I just explained why this isn't about me feeling good or superior, I'm not going to explain again.
Marcelo Zana - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 07:37:11 EST mm9HRonN No.4879856 Ignore Report Reply
you said absolutely nothing about that but ok

meanwhile i'm finishing off a delicious roast pork belly and quite frankly, I can't wait to do it again
Hans McKiffer - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 07:42:55 EST CpKB2xcY No.4879857 Ignore Report Reply
Thanks for that.
Bart Simpson - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 07:49:41 EST L8No0HMc No.4879859 Ignore Report Reply
See >>4879722.
Fluke Hawkins - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 10:59:04 EST egOh+lnb No.4879906 Ignore Report Reply
the KKK doesn't discriminate, apparently.

They sure look goofy with those hats though.

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