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Emeril Lagasse - Mon, 13 May 2019 19:48:42 EST ID:4InUkpnT No.4850361
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I'm not sure how to start this off but this is the best outlet because of the anonymity. I'd like to preface by saying I am not a Trump supporter, does it matter? Maybe in this case it is.

I get a really bad vibe from Mexicans. They come over here, refuse to learn English or act like they can't in certain situations. Mexican women are awful about this. Unfortunately I have the pleasure of working with a lot of Mexican men and women. Something about them is off to me. I see them and yes they are hard workers that probably deserve a bit more respect although I am starting to see some of the OTHER sides pov as well. I was also the type that claimed to not have a racist bone in my body. But there is this strange negativity and almost envy I sense when I'm around these people that they want to come over and replace us as well.

You know Mexicans talk in their language around Mexicans because they're talking shit about you right? Mexican food is really good at least.
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François Pierre de la Varenne - Mon, 13 May 2019 20:10:52 EST ID:RlewzanI No.4850369 Ignore Report Reply
Mexicans are alright, its the salvadorans that i fucking hate
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JTG - Mon, 13 May 2019 20:14:31 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850371 Ignore Report Reply
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never had problems with mexicans. ive seen asian immigrants being really insular though, feels like theyre all autistic or something.
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Charles Ranhofer - Mon, 13 May 2019 20:42:04 EST ID:9BM/9OmI No.4850377 Ignore Report Reply
Conversation translated from original spanish:

>oh, shit. Here he comes.

>Who's coming?

>It's that neurotic white boy with persecution complex.

>For fucks sake.

>That little bitch is annoying.

>On the count of three we all start laughing and pretend we're trying to avoid eye contact with him.
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Kimono Girl Alice - Mon, 13 May 2019 20:49:41 EST ID:7p+ucmg1 No.4850380 Ignore Report Reply
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Listen, man, English is not our national language. It is an historical accident that it is our majority language. There is nothing wrong with people coming to the United States, an intrinsically multicultural country, and speaking either their native tongue or an adopted one, whether or not that's English. If it upsets you that they speak something you can't understand, consider the fact that you're asking them to learn a second language, so that you can remain monolingual. Why? Because you were born here? Fuck off.

>these people that they want to come over and replace us

No one is trying to "replace" you, don't go full tinfoil. Capital benefits from cheap immigrant labor, this is true, but what you should do is fight against the hyperexploitation of immigrants and for an easier path to citizenship, rather than push for them to be removed from our shared society so that white people can get hyperexploited instead.
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JTG - Mon, 13 May 2019 20:53:55 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850382 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850380

if you flat out refuse to learn the language of a country you plan to live and work in, thats just dumb and no one should have to put up with it and communicate with you in fucking pantomime.
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Slippy Toad - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:02:50 EST ID:RxGStnGk No.4850384 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361

So you are generalizing Mexicans based off the handful you work with? You’re probably just acting like a weird white guy around them. Just be friendly and treat them like the human beings that they are. Also being paranoid that Mexicans are takin all are jerbs is just retarded.

Try putting yourself in their shoes. Sure, there’s shitty Mexicans, but there’s shitty everyone’s. don’t go generalizing an entire race, Emeril
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Kimbo Slice - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:04:06 EST ID:dsDRA5Dc No.4850385 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361
>act like they can't in certain situations

That's just someone who's a dickhead. Shit man I knew a dude growing up who's dad would pretend to not know english and only knew how to speak italian when someone was confronting him. The fucking guy was born and raised in new jersey for fucks sake.

>come over and replace us as well.

If you worry that much about being replaced by some rando off the street, then that means you're unskilled and useless. Sorry mate.
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Carl Showalter - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:07:08 EST ID:OpTXEfU2 No.4850387 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850361
Yes every race has their bad side so to speak. Being half one myself can confirm what you say is true and they do speak in their home language so that the english speakers don't understand what they are saying. My family did this to their own children, never taught us youngins and would speak to eachother in spanish about serious issues or to gossip in private within plain sight. Mexicans are openly racist against their own kind for being cheapskates or drunks and other stereotypes, especially other races and they joke about the China (pronounced cheena), Pinche Gringos (whiteys), and have a slew of words for blacks and black spanish speakers other races etc. Fun fact historically they traded Tequila and other goods to the Germans in exchange for accordians or other exotic goods including a certain recipe for a beer which we know today as Corona.

Most are cool and hold high values in family and good humor, most wanna laugh, smoke marihuano or have a beer, and enjoy some good food like any human might want to but in their own fashion. I notice they play alotta mobile games and online games together since its usually more available and i'm able to communicate a bit with them in some team survival games with basic phrases such as "Ayude me" or "Yo tengo medicamentos" etc.

Alotta people in most cultures are alright but there is a saying my Turkish friend told me about how there are always bad types in every culture and the saying goes "Not all fingers of the hand are the same".
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Jim Raynor - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:07:20 EST ID:i+bcAbCE No.4850388 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850380
this dude is close to right. Nationalism is fucking stupid. Dough Stanhopes routine on it hits the nail on the head.

And if you can't keep your job because some dude from across the world who can't speak English replaces you then you're probably a shitty employee. You don't see doctors or lawyers bitching about immigrants taking their jobs. Some dude who roles in covered in dirt with zero education and doesn't know English isn't going to take your job unless your job unless you're an idiot.
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Trytan - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:09:01 EST ID:cxpilczL No.4850389 Ignore Report Reply
its a mix of trying to preserve the culture of their parents that they know from their childhood, as well as a bit of a protective shield from the constant racist trash they deal with every day
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Tiequan Zhang - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:14:19 EST ID:4InUkpnT No.4850392 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850388
Shut up plenty of others immigrate here and learn the language and also treat others with respect. Mexicans are racist as fuck and even against other Hispanic. They shouldn't immigrate at all if they have to fake not knowing English or they can't treat people with respect. Beaners other than the blacks are the most marginalized race and it's sad that they themselves borrow so much of their hatred from white people who ironically hate beanies too.
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Kimono Girl Alice - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:15:25 EST ID:7p+ucmg1 No.4850393 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850392
Get a grip dude.
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Bob Sapp - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:25:35 EST ID:ImKuX0U0 No.4850394 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850387
>Being half one myself can confirm
>half one myself
>half
>one
>confirm
racist diatribe. Nb. Reported
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JTG - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:27:15 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850395 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850394

how the fuck else is he supposed to say it?

what ISNT racist these days anyway.

theres so much crying wolf no ones gonna notice the actual wolf.
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Bob Sapp - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:32:35 EST ID:ImKuX0U0 No.4850396 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850395
Pick another non whole number. One half is so cliche. Better yet, just use a whole number coefficient. One full bigot.
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Rich Boy Cyril - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:35:05 EST ID:/Kd199Jm No.4850397 Ignore Report Reply
OP, you definitely misinterpreted that vibe if you think the vibe you were getting was envy. They don't envy us which I think says a lot about their character. They just don't have much respect for us, seeing how easy we've had it in comparison. I can see why people don't like Mexican immigrants because especially if you're working alongside them, they often put off some pretty shitty vibes towards us gringos and talk shit about us in a language we can't understand. So it's fair to think "fuck em." But when you try to see yourself from their perspective, it makes a lot of sense. And honestly when I do that, it kinda amazes me that they don't think even less of us.

We have it amazingly easy compared to how they used to have it, and how a lot of their family back in Latin America still have it. We're soft compared to most of them. It's the second generation Mexicans that are all fat and lazy lol. Not trying to be racist, but there really is a huge and obvious difference between those two generations. The ones whose parents moved out here all take everything for granted that their parents worked ridiculously hard to give them a decent life and they all become gang bangers and shit. That was a wildly inaccurate generalization but it makes the point in a way I'm capable of making it.

Those immigrants come from a hellscape that has been created by our greed and vice and they see that shit. It's all up in their face. And they all still know people that are working hard to try to navigate that dystopian foundation supporting the destructive habits of our nation. And it makes them jaded, and I think it's totally fair.

All I'm saying is if you think they're dicks or they have a shitty attitude, just try to see it from their perspective before jumping to conclusions or writing them off, and try to look at that perspective with some compassion. And if you treat them with respect and you work hard and aren't a fatty "peopleofwalmart" American, they will give you respect. It's just that they have a much different culture and their ideas around respect are a little different than ours. They come here and assume we're all spoiled and who's to say they're wrong to think that. Even though they are wrong, if I came from what they came from to the richest country in the world, I'd probably have some negative generalizations about the people here. That's like moving to a lower middle class suburb to the richest gated neighborhood in Las Angeles and thinking that everyone there would be a ridiculous super rich reality tv show type. You wouldn't be wrong to think that.
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Bob Sapp - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:35:55 EST ID:ImKuX0U0 No.4850398 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850395
>crying
What you're doing
>wolf
Actual bigotry
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JTG - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:50:40 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850401 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850398


nothing more bigoted than pretending to be a mind reader and putting yourself on some imaginary moral high ground.
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William Hungerton - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:54:32 EST ID:sVlGi/lg No.4850403 Ignore Report Reply
Racial resentment is a 2 way street. They suffer a lot of shit from lazy white guys who exploit the shit out of them. The truth is they are harder working and lower paid, work the shittiest jobs and conditions, and still they are looked down on and even outright hated by white men just because they compete with them for jobs. Now there's a tension there because the competition is so high and factions are forming along racial lines and vying for dominance in the blue collar work sphere. Whites will discriminate against latinos and give preferential treatment to other whites and latinos will discriminate against whites and give preferential treatment to other latinos. It's just human nature and seeing as how whites are the more privileged and exploitative group in this equation I'd say their resentment towards whites is more justified than the reverse.
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FannyPiblingbanks.xif - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:59:14 EST ID:V+hJ69HV No.4850407 Ignore Report Reply
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Oh yeah cabrón, I'm gunna take your job
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Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Mon, 13 May 2019 21:59:16 EST ID: iLikEToleARn No.4850408 Report Reply
>>4850407
For the championship match: Samoa joe, the international superstar shake-up, the ones you like tropico, logistics sims, and I assumed with chyna, and he basically destroyed elias like nothing, will teach you all aren't normie scum, and yeah some of the year.
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Rich Boy Cyril - Mon, 13 May 2019 22:04:04 EST ID:/Kd199Jm No.4850410 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850401
The moral high ground is real. It exists. I seent it.

But I don't think it exists anywhere on the internet.
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Rich Boy Cyril - Mon, 13 May 2019 22:04:49 EST ID:/Kd199Jm No.4850411 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850408
This is just fuckin sad. This poor fuck has to read so much wrasslin bullshit that his brain is like this. Fucking heartbreaking. Put this lad out of his misery.
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Georges-Henri Lemaitre - Mon, 13 May 2019 22:06:11 EST ID:kepyRcFX No.4850413 Ignore Report Reply
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Tfw libtards are having a super racist thread and you just sitting here with your old supposedly Nazi ass like “smdh y’all racist as hell”.


Good thing OP used the “I’m not a trump supporter (racist), BUT.... “ tag line. I almost thought you guys were the real racists for a second there


Anyways Jesus loves you
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Rich Boy Cyril - Mon, 13 May 2019 22:11:16 EST ID:/Kd199Jm No.4850418 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850413
Nice virtue signaling.
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Joel Coen - Mon, 13 May 2019 22:23:34 EST ID:J+qChu9I No.4850423 Ignore Report Reply
All of the good Mexican food is actually from Texas and California.
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Fred Falkland - Mon, 13 May 2019 22:36:43 EST ID:hBoXl0vr No.4850427 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850401
>I take personal anecdotes at face value even when they are riddled with tropes and patterned language. Any deduction is unreasonable as long as it's about what I want to convey
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Samuel Pockson - Mon, 13 May 2019 22:42:58 EST ID:yUwOsz8/ No.4850431 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850423
Texican food.
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Cinder - Tue, 14 May 2019 00:54:19 EST ID:uyFhLf1o No.4850482 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850382
Few people refuse to learn the majority language of the country they live in. It can just be really hard.

I've lived in Japan 5 fucking years but my brain still shuts down when people start speaking faster than the rate you would only afford a child with Down syndrome.

Basic survival language learning is simple. Also keep in mind that some people are freshly arrived and you're judging them as if they've been in the country for years. Learning a foreign language is incredibly difficult and time consuming.
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JTG - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:03:37 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850488 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850482

sure, im just talking about those few assholes. they do exist. i used to deliver shit to a chinese owned warehouse in LA and it was like first contact with aliens.
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Lillian Bardwill - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:23:01 EST ID:FsbTCT32 No.4850500 Ignore Report Reply
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[...]

Nobody bitches about immigrants taking that job if that person has skills of any level.

Nothing like some fuckin' brain surgeon sitting around the Beverly Hills hotel lounge, goin'


"You know really, chaps my ass, Barry? Scandinavian fellas are coming over taking all our good neurosurgery positions. The Norwegians specifically. I say we found ourselves a bottle of Jack Daniels and go stomp us some Weigie ass, the first Weigie we see. We — jump out of that Explorer and pound him... Fuckin' immigrants! All started with that Einstein. Once they brought him over from Germany and we didn’t have any good genius jobs, it was a trickle-down effect."



tl;dr STFU OP
lil racist bitch go back to 4cancer
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JTG - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:25:45 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850504 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850500

fuckin weegies
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DrWorm !Jq.HCcHctg - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:29:50 EST ID:mz7Be+go No.4850507 Report Reply
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>>4850361
Just popping in to say that I'm keeping a close eye on this thread and that the second it turns into a /pol/ thread, its getting sent back to the future where it probably came from.
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LydiaDrisslenork.nlm - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:32:11 EST ID:2k6wE3Tl No.4850509 Ignore Report Reply
how do you play the victim in a scenario where you're simply too lazy to correct the problem. learn spanish OP, that's a lot more enriching than calling ICE
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Rich Boy Cyril - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:38:08 EST ID:/Kd199Jm No.4850511 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850509
Yeah learning spanish is a very valuable tool in certain areas. Where I live it's probably like 60% hispanic. If I became bilingual, I'd have tons more opportunities and my earning power would raise pretty substantially so I see their presence as nothing but a benefit with tons of opportunities. People who see it as a negative are just stupid.
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Ross Pearson - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:41:32 EST ID:G6LCxR+3 No.4850513 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850500

Isn't it a bit racist to assume all Mexicans are below a certain level of intelligence?

maybe Pablo is a genius that just got dealt a bad hand in life eh?
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JTG - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:44:50 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850515 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850513

the old low expectations masquerading as compassion.
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Rich Boy Cyril - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:52:27 EST ID:/Kd199Jm No.4850518 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850513
yes, but that implication was never made

but it is a fact that mexican immigrants especially illegal fill a huge portion of the unskilled labor market, and it is a fact that those are the jobs that rednecks are complaining about them "stealing"
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Sam Winchester - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:53:31 EST ID:jMLKnJo/ No.4850520 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850515
low expectations of people are built into the US social contract
everybody has rights from certain actions, but de jure obligations toward one another weren't part of the original deal, which is a political novelty compared to previous republics (not that this is a good thing)
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JTG - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:54:52 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850521 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850518

your boss fires you and hires me because ill take less pay and im not even on the grid so im not accountable, i dont have a tax record.

you wont even be upset, youll just pick yourself up by your bootstraps and get more skilled. i can tell youre a man of full conviction.
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Sam Winchester - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:59:26 EST ID:jMLKnJo/ No.4850522 Ignore Report Reply
I loved working with mexican dudes when I did
fuck undocumented immigrants of any nation, they are fucking scabs
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Robert Altman - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:08:09 EST ID:AWiCEiWS No.4850533 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850518
ok maybe I should have phrased it differently

the fact remains that either you're assuming most Mexicans are unable of acquiring skilled jobs or you're admitting they're of a lesser skill bracket
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PollyCungerman.pif - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:16:54 EST ID:XNCtSCBY No.4850540 Ignore Report Reply
Imagine whining like a little fag that someone getting paid below minimum wage "took yer jerb" when humans are gonna get replaced in the workforce by AI & Robots soon, anyways.
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JTG - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:18:52 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850541 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850540

both are problems.
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PollyCungerman.pif - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:45:15 EST ID:XNCtSCBY No.4850549 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850541
They're a sign that corporations will always take the option that allows them to keep as much money as humanly possible.
To complain about the people/tech that's constantly being exploited by them is completely retarded & incredibly short-sighted.
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Sam Winchester - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:52:50 EST ID:jMLKnJo/ No.4850553 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850540
The jobs taken by undocumented dudes is really minimal compared to the fact they put strain on systems in excess of what taxes they put in; they pay consumption taxes, but that's it.
While immigrant labor of all sorts and their net consumption contributes to gross GDP and 'wealth', the sort of wealth they contribute to via consumer spending is just putting dollars into the hands of corporations at the expense of taxpayers; while this doesn't have real effect on actual tax rate in the US, it leads to more public debt, which leads to all that virtual currency fucking shit up in the long term.
Besides that, if you have X number of people in a county documented and you plan to provide some fraction of X services but you actually have X+Y then you designed the fucking thing wrong. These people need schools, roads, hospitals, etc.
Back in the day it would not have been such a big deal because American people had taverns and fraternities which local people would pay into community funds and receive burial expenses, hospital expenses, community care, etc. before Prohibition. Prohibition destroyed this social system in early America, and the replacement was the social state, which is it's own crock of fish. We cannot responsibly take care of our own people at the present time, so additional humans piled onto the oncoming mess of what already seems like a grim state of affairs seems counter-intuitive. Nothing about the current state of things is sustainable.
If we taxed corporations like we should be, then it wouldn't be a big issue but that's the main systemic issue behind all of the other issues -- corporations cause problems, their employees and consumers foot the social bill for how they behave

This post was edited by DrWorm on 14-05-2019 05:07:54
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Brooke Elitingston - Tue, 14 May 2019 03:57:04 EST ID:T6twVDEq No.4850555 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361
>I was also the type that claimed to not have a racist bone in my body.
A lot of people are like that until they realize that people from other races can be racists also. Before you realized that some Mexicans think that they're better than you, you probably happily assumed that Mexicans wished they were white because white superiority is so glaringly obvious to you, regardless the fact that you're not a racist.
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Hall Matron Hugh - Tue, 14 May 2019 05:53:02 EST ID:di2U2CFB No.4850565 Ignore Report Reply
One of my best friends is Mexican. His mom and dad crossed the border, his dad almost got eaten by coyotes. His mom said that, as a child, she used to wander around the forest and try to eat plants because they were so hungry. If you kept a plant on your tongue and it was bitter, you spat it out and didn't eat it. One time she almost got kidnapped, but a dog saved her.

He has a wife and a kid and they work at a library. He's super chill, and an all around decent person. We've been friends for years.

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him

lol jk he cool
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Antoine Parmentier - Tue, 14 May 2019 05:53:18 EST ID:xIvA5Qzu No.4850566 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850553
How are undocumented people even allowed to work in the US?
I mean how is it possible for these people to obtain basic necessities like housing, water, power, bank account etc.
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George Gamow - Tue, 14 May 2019 05:53:46 EST ID:LkkyNueO No.4850568 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850555
Yep.

People saying that only white people can be racist (and that being racist against white folks is only "prejudice") are in essence enforcing the myth of white superiority.

I find racist people extremely annoying in all races, but perhaps the worst are those who claim they're not racist while they do it. Have a friend who works as a teacher and is racially harassed by her elementary school students all the time. "Stupid white bitch, you don't know a fuckin' thing." Etc. Racism is RAMPANT in poor communities of ALL colors, and in some richer ones, too.
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Hall Matron Hugh - Tue, 14 May 2019 05:58:22 EST ID:di2U2CFB No.4850571 Ignore Report Reply
also mods this is clearly a racist bait thread, what the fuck?

at least show some fucking consistency in what you ban
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Sam Winchester - Tue, 14 May 2019 06:48:28 EST ID:jMLKnJo/ No.4850582 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850566
there are a lot of ways it's happening that allows it to exist, but it's really not as big as the media would have you to believe, just certain areas of the US
people tend to use fake IDs, over-staying a work visa, or in some cases a stolen identity
otherwise, dudes are getting paid under the table in cash or migrant work that follow harvests of crops (also paid in cash)
>housing, electricity, water
people unfortunately living out of tents, cars, shared living arrangements among legal people
I spoke with a legal US born dude from LA who lived in a trap house that was turned into cubicles where you could pay the slum lord in cash, and he said about half the house was illegal and it was a dangerous situation
>banking
a lot of banking is done via western union or similar services where they wire money home, typically

tl;dr: there are holes in the American system that should have been patched, but instead of fixing the issues which allow this shit to continue, we instead blame the people
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Rich Boy Cyril - Tue, 14 May 2019 07:24:29 EST ID:/Kd199Jm No.4850584 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850521
Lol I don't have any issue with illegal immigrants, I think you're confusing me for someone else? I was just pointing out that undocumented workers take up a lot of unskilled jobs. That's what they're actually called when you work on a farm, or in a kitchen, or as a maid. That's not a denigrating designation you retard. Which is kinda funny because right after that you implied that if they steal a job, that it's an unskilled job so do you even know what you're saying, you god damn racist? And then I go on to put the word stealing in quotation marks to indicate that I think that they're not actually stealing jobs and that it's kinda a joke to say such, yet you still don't seem to understand what I'm saying, which is clearly just clarifying and pointing out that someone was tilting at windmills. And then you proceed to tilt at me which is actually pretty hilarious. I'm just trying to point out that if you're gonna argue, at least try to point in the right direction and not at someone who is very clearly shitting all over people who are villainizing people who just come here to work hard and have a better life.

Like I said earlier, I've worked alongside plenty of undocumented immigrants and legal immigrants and I have a lot of respect for them. And they don't steal jobs from anybody.

>>4850533
And I never said they can't get skilled jobs. Check ID's or read or something.. I was just pointing out that your argument is retarded. Calling Doug Stanhope a racist for making fun of dumb rednecks with an obviously intentionally ridiculous analogy is fucking dumb, you know the point he is making. And I'm sure you also know that most people who are here illegally don't have the means to seek education or training when they get here, and very likely didn't have it before. Nobody said they are incapable of getting better jobs. But it is true that once that have the means and time to become documented immigrants, they have the means and time to get better jobs and vocational training. But when they come over here, they don't have all of that stuff. The need to work is extremely urgent as they have to feed themselves and likely family back in latin america. So that's why such a large portion of them have unskilled jobs, because of the circumstances they come from. Not because I'm making it up because I'm a racist you dimwit.
"The fact remains" that you just made a bunch of shit up or you have the memory of a goldfish and your brain is muddled leaving you arguing points that nobody, especially not I, ever made.
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Charles Oliveira - Tue, 14 May 2019 08:50:18 EST ID:m5xoB/i+ No.4850595 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850584
>>4850584
No real conviction and morality pants for days
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AugustusFuddlehood.dd - Tue, 14 May 2019 08:56:47 EST ID:9pnVG34a No.4850599 Ignore Report Reply
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I never got the vibe you speak of. Many of them are cool, in person and online.

But often I talk to Mexican immigrants they look at me like “why is this fucking idiot talking to me.”
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Albert Darringchetch - Tue, 14 May 2019 09:25:14 EST ID:obYKQIYj No.4850606 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850595
Yeah but he's not a racist either
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DaiMon Bractor - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:01:05 EST ID:jf+M45j5 No.4850613 Ignore Report Reply
In my experience, anybody who uses the phrase "not a racist bone in my body" usually winds up being a massive closet racist.

OP you're probably like my dad who claims to not be racist but refuses to go anywhere that has too many black people in it.
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Mario Batali - Tue, 14 May 2019 10:08:24 EST ID:FQvlzNlM No.4850614 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850613
better safe than sorry.
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Chushiro Hayashi - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:03:10 EST ID:hKC5o//Q No.4850625 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850606
>>4850613
Yeah he is
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Channeler Hannah - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:07:50 EST ID:JdAUQDHo No.4850629 Ignore Report Reply
I'm Mexican and i don't hate myself. Odd thread; you should learn to grapple with your perceptions of people better.
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Volk Han - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:24:56 EST ID:k6WABXwy No.4850631 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850361
The only mexican I ever known (im English we dont get many hopping our border) was the coolest hardest working guy ever. He spoke English perfectly. He was this short weird looking guy and he got the hottest blond polish woman ever and married her, because of this he could speak Polish too. Cool guy, made amazing food, hot waifu. bilingual, hard working, inteligently funny. Not at all what I imagined mexicans to be.
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MVP - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:29:07 EST ID:dsaotJya No.4850634 Ignore Report Reply
Can someone just ban OP? This place would be a lot better without him.
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Helena Rozhenko - Tue, 14 May 2019 11:37:54 EST ID:qinXB6vs No.4850635 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361
I'm Mexican and just about everything you said is retarded. You're only afraid of being replaced because you're replaceable and apparently not as hard a worker. You only think they talk shit on you and dislike you cause you do that to them. The envy you sense is your own for not belonging to shit. Quit projecting, it makes you sound like a backwards ignorant coward.
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William Hungerton - Tue, 14 May 2019 14:57:10 EST ID:sVlGi/lg No.4850680 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850500
Maybe they bitch less because they're more intelligent and therefore less racist, but it's not like the medical field or other skilled fields aren't full of immigrants. Protip: immigrants can go to college and get good jobs too and have been doing so forever. Your post is pretty disgustingly racist and if that's how you actually view the world, you should get out more.
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Ross Pearson - Tue, 14 May 2019 15:40:05 EST ID:G6LCxR+3 No.4850703 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850584
Was the implication not that if you're losing jobs to Mexicans you must not be that skilled? If not my apologies because it seemed that way, pretty sure that's the implication Doug was making. If you replaced the word redneck with Mexican wouldn't that sound a bit racist? Oh that's right you can't be racist against white people, you can't be racist against anyone really because racism doesn't exist. You admit they come from an uneducated country and yet instead of fixing the source of the issue you'd rather vie for the easier approach of bringing in more uneducated Mexican immigrants to undercut "dumb rednecks" as you call them.

ANNEX MEXICO
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Raphael Assuncao - Tue, 14 May 2019 15:46:58 EST ID:5xDkPkyE No.4850706 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361
Lol, Xenophobia.
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Giuseppe Piazzi - Tue, 14 May 2019 16:01:17 EST ID:+og6agQt No.4850710 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850635
>apparently not as hard a worker.
Then why is it every time I work at a place with majority mexicans they stop working once they see that I work hard and end up doing every thing? Secondly I know spanish and it's 100% true, not for every single white boi mind you but never the less it's racially charged shit talk. I promise you none of the white bois I work with would dare do this even behind closed doors to each other. Lastly, when ever mexican comes to the drive thru they refuse to speak english, source on that is the mexican cook I work with, he's a bro. Some times you get the old sobrero that can hardly even mumble spanish properly and I don't expect them to know english but TBH fam if you gunna go live in another country I'd learn the language. Only America seems to have the mind set that learning a new language is too hard for immigrants, like they are retarded or some thing. But go to france and the lowest riff raff will turn his nose at you for trying to communicate in english. In this modern age it is possible to live together but we are not passed the point of regional language, even china has like 6 different dialecs and japan has at least 3, so it isn't simply a "this is AMERICA" thing. as a west coast faggot I have a hard time understanding southern/country accents and thats still the same language not counting colloquialism swaps. Even moving between states will inflict an accent or at least vocabulary change over time, it's part of integrating to your new surroundings and society... some thing I don't see in the likes of my co-workers, reguardless of race this applies to foriegners of all types from my personal experiences. Final disclaimer, I don't treat any one poorly, I conduct my self with respect for others around me no matter the color as it's the least any one can do for the society ,the planet ,they inhabit.
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Trytan - Tue, 14 May 2019 19:25:17 EST ID:cxpilczL No.4850778 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850403

this whole jobs thing is a boogeyman urban legend. when was the last time you saw 4 white dudes crammed into a 2 seater pickup truck, with shitty signage painted on the sign, and a plywood trailer full of hand-me-down landscaping equipment, getting pushed out of the market by mexicans? immigrants do jobs no one else would do. you think theres a lot of middle aged white women trying to work as hotel attendants but are being pushed out by mexican women? lol get fuckin real.
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Ebenezer Honeyridge - Tue, 14 May 2019 19:36:25 EST ID:SyJ41SU5 No.4850785 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850710
>Only America seems to have the mind set that learning a new language is too hard for immigrants
lol it's literally the fucking opposite. Americans automatically expect everyone to speak English, even when going overseas. Webm related, it's OP being a bitchman
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Caius Cosades - Tue, 14 May 2019 19:43:35 EST ID:kjyrup8/ No.4850787 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850411

I have nothing against Hlateenos but you should fuck right off to where you came from.
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Ebenezer Honeyridge - Tue, 14 May 2019 19:55:55 EST ID:SyJ41SU5 No.4850791 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4850411
Anyone who starts a sentence with "I'm not an X but..." is almost undoubtedly X. It was pretty obvious this was a poltard thread and everyone here assumed that but probably thought something funny might come of it anyway. Doesn't seem like it ever got funny though.
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Lt. Darien Wallace - Tue, 14 May 2019 20:26:57 EST ID:di2U2CFB No.4850809 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850710
actually, now that you mention it, there is a lot of shit talking

older Spanish people shit talk my friend, who is Mexican, and then are surprised he speaks Spanish
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Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 14 May 2019 20:36:48 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4850810 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850791

im sure you have no problem when you tell someone something but they just assume the exact opposite. if you did you'd be a hypocrite, but nope, no double standards with you.
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CarolinePucklegold.uue - Tue, 14 May 2019 21:24:17 EST ID:T+ibaH/i No.4850827 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361
When I'm around young Jewish women, my spirit-wang throbs thickly from within.
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Lt. JG Ayala - Wed, 15 May 2019 05:36:22 EST ID:D/IDY4bE No.4850928 Ignore Report Reply
itt: racists complaining about people being racist to them
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Raymond Goucho - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:10:19 EST ID:KxVlOcCv No.4850954 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850785
I know exactly how it is. It's an example of being on the side of limited communication with the natives. Makes life hard does it not?
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Raymond Goucho - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:21:06 EST ID:KxVlOcCv No.4850956 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850928
>It's ok to be racist if they were the racist first

How's those eyes, still intact?
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Nigel Nammlestane - Wed, 15 May 2019 09:38:47 EST ID:xqWlkmfy No.4850960 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850928
its like were in bizzaro word.
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Xane Perosteck - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:11:24 EST ID:wt0PL7gA No.4850986 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850827
that's not the point no one assumed mexicons were lower intelligence. A lot of them come here illegally and do get into the unskilled labor market because that's the only work they can get. Mexicans are very much still under a lot of scrutiny from people because they are seen a jerb stealers. The restaurant business has a lot of Mexicans in it because they don't know English and it's something they can do very Fast because they are hard workers and don't have to interact with clientele much. Of course the managers are fake nice to them so they stay and can pay them jack shot for their work. your implying a whole lot when no one said anything of the sort so I guess that says more about you than anything else?
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Xane Perosteck - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:19:23 EST ID:wt0PL7gA No.4850989 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850614
Large groups of black people can be intimidating because they stare and some of them look like thugs. They will laugh loud if you fall while your nervous. I had a black kid come up to me and ask to borrow some money I gave it to him because I was nervous. One time I was in my bike and fell of get onto a side walk and they all started laughing loudly. Admit it you get nervous around them.
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Kid Kash - Wed, 15 May 2019 11:37:23 EST ID:sVlGi/lg No.4850993 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850778
Again with the massively racist assumption that all immigrants are poor and incompetent. There are plenty of immigrants driving brand new pickup trucks with brand new professional logos and brand new equipment and plenty of white guys with shitty equipment. The truth is that the racial resentment is getting so high because that sterotype of the lazy poor mexican is breaking down and the competition is real with plenty of mexicans running successful businesses, same goes for every other type of immigrant and every type of business. When I go to the doctor's office whites are never in the majority for doctors there, it's always Indians and Asians. The racism is really the only thing that gives the white guys an edge at this point so of course they're going to hold on to it for dear life. They wouldn't have to do that though if they weren't locked into this fucked up economic system that makes everyone compete for their positions as wage slaves. Even if you both have positions as slaves for different companies, their presence means you have to work harder and do a better job just to keep getting the work your company needs to survive, and the ones who don't have jobs and want your job allow your employer to pay you less because if you ask for too much he'll just fire you and hire one of them.
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George Airy - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:29:15 EST ID:FwKGX+22 No.4851012 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850785
any time some entitled cunt says "the customer is always right", I want to choke the shit out of them
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Edward Morgan Blake - Wed, 15 May 2019 13:58:43 EST ID:2k6wE3Tl No.4851014 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850993
c'mon man, there are immigrants who realized their 'american dream' and immigrants who operate entirely under the cracks of the system. it's not racist to admit that central american emigrants are literally catapulting themselves over the border wall just to start at square zero, if that's really the way it is
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Antoine Beauvilliers - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:04:24 EST ID:LU5CHL5U No.4851016 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4851014
>central american emigrants are literally catapulting themselves over the border
>literally
I kinda hope this is something that's actually happening and you're not just being hyperbolic.
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Beau MacMillian - Wed, 15 May 2019 14:42:22 EST ID:+og6agQt No.4851025 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4851016
>posts trebuchet
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Charles Padgewater - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:16:52 EST ID:wMER6U+B No.4851030 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4851025
http://jarodsforge.blogspot.com/2008/08/whats-difference-between-catapult-and.html
ooooh bitch oooooh read this shit oooohhh
>ooooh "Trebuchets are a TYPE of catapult," oooooooooooooooooooooooh
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BetsyDartbanks.png - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:22:16 EST ID:0tt3XVhH No.4851031 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850411
He really has been through too much
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Magus - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:33:39 EST ID:N2curHLX No.4851032 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851030
>Trebuchets are a TYPE of catapult
So are crossbows. But let's not be fucking retarded about it.
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Ted Allen - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:36:36 EST ID:5yG7r+R/ No.4851034 Ignore Report Reply
I think we really need to focus on whats up with the damn japs
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Chad Mendes - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:52:02 EST ID:z53gBOSA No.4851036 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851032
fucking lold. thanks man that gave me a good chuckle.
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George Airy - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:54:47 EST ID:FwKGX+22 No.4851037 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851032
a longbow is a catapult, PROVE ME WRONG BITCHES!
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Kid Kash - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:56:36 EST ID:sVlGi/lg No.4851039 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851034
I think their shame-based society really didn't mesh well with capitalism. Like, they're great at capitalism and all, producing economic wealth and technological advancements and all that, but they do it at such an insane social cost. Everyone is constantly aware of their position and who is above and below them in society, everyone is extremely deferential to people who are above them because that's how the whole system is set up, if you want to get ahead, you have to play by the rules, and in Japan that means being incredibly docile and subservient and putting yourself through absolute fucking hell to make it to the next level. Image is highly important and conformity to social standards and ideals is highly important, both even moreso than in the US. All of this has resulted in an insane corporate culture that literally works people to death.

Families are being destroyed because all the parents do is work, everyone is emotionally damaged and emotionally repressed and struggling in silence and solitude because it's shameful to show that you're struggling in their society. They are in a lot of ways one of the most fucked up countries on Earth and it's quite possible they're going to be destroyed outright rather than reform at the rate they're going. Instead of rebelling they're just doubling down and giving all power in the country to a group of crazy elites who worship the royal family as gods and think Japanese people are racially superior to everyone else and want to abolish human rights and want to start wars with Russia and Korea.
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Magus - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:31:37 EST ID:N2curHLX No.4851067 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851037
What makes a linearized catapult is the winch/lever and lock allowing it to store the energy at rest in the form of tension.

A longbow is a longbow. It cannot be held at tension if it's worth a damn.
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Smokimus Maximus - Wed, 15 May 2019 17:41:29 EST ID:JxOEypZP No.4851068 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851039
yeah, i had this jap friend who gave me guitar lessons a few years back who was super laid back, told me all about the red tape in society and one of the reason why he immigrated to the US, was because of how society perceives you if you are not a corporate drown. I remember him telling me that he was considered the black sheep in his family because he said fuck all this bullshit and left the country.
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Joseph-Louis Lagrange - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:42:25 EST ID:WKRhLTe0 No.4851116 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361
>They come over here, refuse to learn English
I'm curious what Europeans or even Canadians think when they see Americans get so angry about hearing another language.

I mean, I'm an American and I'm baffled by how triggered my countrymen get by the existence of more than one language, what does this look like to someone from say Brussels or Switzerland?
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James Moriarty - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:07:30 EST ID:9BM/9OmI No.4851120 Ignore Report Reply
The amish that refuse to learn english! Get the fuck out my country so Americans can get back to crafting fine wooden furniture products!
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FuckNuckleman.pst - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:15:28 EST ID:xQbEn5iB No.4851121 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851116
If you go to New York you will probably hear 7 different languages on a single train ride, plenty of cities are similar. Maga bois are screaming out loud to nobody in their unincorporated villages and somehow we always hear them
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Phil Ken Sebben - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:21:23 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4851122 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851116

total strawman of the position. its not "wah i just HATE foreign languages because im xenophone!"

its frustrating having to live and work around people who DONT CARE to learn the common language and make things unnecessarily difficult. whos really being the asshole in that situation?
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Phil Ken Sebben - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:22:02 EST ID:riBcWeuX No.4851123 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851120

false equivalence. they all speak english and they are legal citizens.
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FuckNuckleman.pst - Wed, 15 May 2019 20:33:43 EST ID:xQbEn5iB No.4851125 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851122
>Who's really being the asshole
Still you, as was mentioned previously USA doesn't have a national language. If you don't want to work with non-english speakers you're welcome to work somewhere more homogenous, but there's no rule that says Americans speak English. Fuckin, fix your shit dude. Learn their language or go somewhere YOU belong, because bitching to us is just annoying and bad vibes. And smoke moar
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Philippe Rochat - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:01:58 EST ID:WE/FIiS2 No.4851131 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4851125
You're going pretty far out of your way to make him out to be a bad guy for expecting people to speak English in a country where nearly everybody speaks English. Nobody is born in America, goes to public schools, and doesn't learn English. It's considered a basic, fundamental skill necessary for success in the United States. I'm not saying it's easy to change your whole way of life- as an immigrant, coming to the US- and it would be unreasonable to expect someone to learn a new language overnight. But eventually, if you insist upon going through life in a place where everyone around you speaks one language, and you don't want to learn it, then *you* are expecting your new home- the already established culture which you have chosen to make yourself a part of- to make special accommodations for *you*.
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John Blade - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:26:47 EST ID:5h0NnKL6 No.4851140 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4851131
The US doesn't have an official language on the national level because that's one of those things it devolves to the states, more than half of them do specify English as an official language and the ones that don't are mostly northeast and midwestern states with old established Dutch or German speaking communities who wouldn't put up with it but are too small and isolated to justify co-official status. So when people talk about the US not having an official language they're really being reductive and glossing over 50 different situations.
On this map blue is English as official language, light blue is a second language along with English.

This is has been your 420chan exclusive pointless civics lesson of the day.
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Buzz Killington - Wed, 15 May 2019 21:31:51 EST ID:N2curHLX No.4851142 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851125
Technically we don't have a national language but we're not Switzerland. For over a century the states and federales have made it abundantly clear they need you to do business with them in English.

There are some exceptions now but they're recent things.
It's weird though because we have vast swaths of LA that look exactly like China and Mexico that you'd be hard-pressed to tell otherwise.
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SimonMobblestock.php - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:04:27 EST ID:SyJ41SU5 No.4851151 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4851140
>are mostly northeast and midwestern states with old established Dutch or German speaking communities who wouldn't put up with it
150-250 years later, and these goddamn krauts STILL won't speak goddam English!
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Saradin - Wed, 15 May 2019 22:17:30 EST ID:mQJyFkJq No.4851163 Ignore Report Reply
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I honestly don’t give a shit about legal immigrants who speak Spanish at all. It’s a free country right?

But can we just not have massive unofficial sanctuary cities full of crime and general barbarity and other shit no one wants popping up?

Look at how disastrous this has been across Europe in recents years. Yeah some racists people are just going to hate on the basis of race, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a big ass problem when you allow open importation of third world chaos into your country and allow entire communities to form where they literally attempt to say “fuck your country and your way of living, well be glad to take the welfare benefits, but this is our country now and if you don’t respect our human rights violations then it’s just because you don’t like minorities”.
Fuck off with that absolute bullshit.

Come here all you want, just leave the third world in the third world and respect the fact that you probably came here to escape it, and that we don’t want it either.
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Fluke Hawkins - Wed, 15 May 2019 23:23:14 EST ID:WKRhLTe0 No.4851196 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851122
>its frustrating having to live and work around people who DONT CARE to learn the common language and make things unnecessarily difficult.
What kind of job do you have that has you working alongside people who don't need basic English as part of their employment? Do you clean toilets for a living?

I'm having a hard time understanding how this would realistically be a problem for most people. Can you give an example of how this has negatively impacted you?
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Buzz Killington - Wed, 15 May 2019 23:32:15 EST ID:N2curHLX No.4851199 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851151
>Dutch or German speaking communities
They were called Dutch, but they were German and all speak German, though it's not completely recognizable to today's German.

If you're looking for Dutch settlements you've got to look at South Africa. The Dutch Dutch who settled in America and Australia were not as stubborn as the Pennsylvania Dutch, who were Germans.

But let's be real. They settled around New Jersey, what stubbornness they did not have, their descendants have doubtlessly acquired from the Sicilians.
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Buzz Killington - Wed, 15 May 2019 23:33:36 EST ID:N2curHLX No.4851201 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851199
Plus the old German dialects they brought and the American accent REALLY sounds like Dutch and probably isn't much further away from it than it is modern Hochdeutsch.
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Jax - Thu, 16 May 2019 00:16:21 EST ID:bMhR8tsW No.4851212 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851163
Shit if you think it's bad now just wait for the probable global recession to destabilize a further percentage of the world. Border control is already at capacity, the first world is by in large paycheck-to-paycheck. When you let corporations fuck the whole world up this is what happens, you believing in the numerical world caste system is just another way they have your shit fucked up
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Ludovic Lefebvre - Thu, 16 May 2019 06:51:36 EST ID:DVSumwl4 No.4851256 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851140
Even the EU uses english as a basic despite only one country using it as the national language. It's absolutely retarded to say not only does America not use English as the national language but that it doesn't even have one. Why do you even live here?
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Kiaphet Amman'sor - Thu, 16 May 2019 11:26:39 EST ID:Adt3RLNJ No.4851295 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850361
>Unfortunately I have the pleasure of working with a lot of Mexican men and women.
Maybe try getting better job than picking fruit, if hearing Spanish during the work day bothers you so damn much.
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Vera Rubiin - Thu, 16 May 2019 11:27:43 EST ID:jEE//nhb No.4851297 Ignore Report Reply
>>4850482
Are you seriously comparing learning Japan with learning English?
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Menos - Thu, 16 May 2019 12:14:06 EST ID:+og6agQt No.4851308 Ignore Report Reply
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>>4851295
ay das raysis mayne
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James van Allen - Fri, 17 May 2019 08:49:45 EST ID:hBNTrpFw No.4851768 Ignore Report Reply
Under Pressure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJoR4vlIIs
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Medium Jarvis - Fri, 17 May 2019 11:26:31 EST ID:9BM/9OmI No.4851802 Ignore Report Reply
>>4851123
It was a joke, you fucking faggot. Unless you base your self worth on winning internet arguments you might just seen it as that.


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