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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)


- Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:09:32 EST l1g78wnq No.4891937
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You have the ability to travel through time (but not space), either to the future or past. Your power allows you to instinctively be able to return to your original time.

What time period do you travel to?
Hugh Blillyson - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:13:20 EST nJkrco7e No.4891938 Reply
Doesn't fucken matter as any travelling through time but not space means you're going to appear either ahead or behind the earth's path in deep vacuum.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:24:15 EST sTwClUnx No.4891940 Reply
I would like to travel like 10 seconds into the past so Earth can just obliterate me.
Phor Twentee - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:35:18 EST JgIxhV6U No.4891943 Reply
Couldn't you travel like exactly in one year increments to minimize this though?
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:36:01 EST sTwClUnx No.4891944 Reply
When you travel through time, does your momentum come with you?
Nicolaus Copernicus - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:40:15 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4891945 Reply
>get drugs
>go to future
>sell present drugs, buy future drugs
>go to past
>sell future drugs, get past drugs
>go to present
>drug break
>buy more drugs
Hugh Blillyson - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:40:21 EST nJkrco7e No.4891946 Reply
I know when I travel through time your mom always comes with me.
Nicolaus Copernicus - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:43:30 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4891950 Reply
oh yeah that totally checks out cause of the curvature of spacetime or whatever
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:45:08 EST sTwClUnx No.4891951 Reply
That's because my mom is a fucking dork. You hang out with absolute dorks.

So Earth's gravity will make me gently float down to its surface and I won't burn up in the atmosphere or crash into the surface after dying from being in empty space for a few seconds?
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:49:00 EST sTwClUnx No.4891953 Reply
Also after posting it, I realize it'd have to be more than 10 seconds, but whatever.
Kobald - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 02:15:38 EST BPVDJBbF No.4891967 Reply
No, the earth orbits the sun, and the sun orbits our galactic center. In relation to the sun, we go in an ellipse, but in relation to any fixed point, we're corkscrewing through space. Even our galaxy is moving in some direction. Any time travel that precludes space will kill you if performed on earth.
Elijah Joy - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:25:34 EST qFZ+kaGb No.4891989 Reply
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I assume I won't pop into space. I travel one week forward, check the winning lottery numbers, go back and win ~80 million €. Then I chill for the rest of my life. This is assuming I only have one trip. I don't want to mess with butterfly effect shit and going far into the future would probably be too many spoilers.
William Fendlestock - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:39:04 EST xIvA5Qzu No.4891990 Reply
Travel to America before colonists arrived and covertly provide the natives with modern weapons and technology
Nicolaus Copernicus - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:46:50 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4892001 Reply
I got an even better one. Go back to prehistory and give proto hominids technology. Homo erectus would probably be about as primitive in evolution as you could get before they'd be just too goddamn stupid to understand anything.
Simon Cleshspear - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:51:46 EST uKz/pjwl No.4892002 Reply
Go back in time and meet myself
Create paradox because I've never met myself in the past
Nicolas Appert - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 07:01:40 EST /9uTVUjB No.4892016 Reply
Easy, I time travel to that one point where I left somebody who was perfect for me for stupid reasons. You can keep the ability to return.
Duff Goldman - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 08:29:26 EST 3l1iQ5Oo No.4892028 Reply
We are also hurtling through space as part of larger and larger organized bodies that are themselves in orbit or otherwise interacting with other, larger bodies.
Marcus Davis - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 08:35:36 EST IiSIjjvW No.4892031 Reply
I'd travel back and stop you from making this thread.
Edward Layman - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:16:52 EST 92ouR6/6 No.4892072 Reply
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this is lame but I would probly just fast forward thru my work days every week and basically be retired with an active income, hopefully it's not like that movie click tho where I'm just some retarded robot while I'm time travelling
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:25:16 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892073 Reply
This. All of our orbits combined keep us from being exactly in the same place in time. The most truly significant factor of all that keeps us from being static, however, is the expansion of the universe itself. Even if there were no orbits, at every point in time everything in the universe is moving further away from its center.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:31:52 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892075 Reply
That's not how evolution works. Homo erectus, which is us, if we were to transport them from 60,000 years ago and bring them to the present day, would be as capable of learning and as competent in both brain structure and function as any modern day human.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:33:27 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892076 Reply
Let me clarify. A 60,000 year old baby would fair just as well as a present day baby, would learn just as much as a present day baby, would be as capable of turning into a fully functioning adult as a present day baby, and would have nothing distinguishing about its features than a present day baby.
Magma Admin Hannah - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:36:20 EST XTlxxyqM No.4892077 Reply
1950's and join the KKK.
Hugh Blillyson - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:44:59 EST nJkrco7e No.4892084 Reply
That's almost true, it would probably lack in some sort of invisible but important immune system ways that would make it horribly susceptible to stuff we shrug off.

Fare, not fair btw.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:47:07 EST qLtdSMZN No.4892086 Reply
Aren't erectus and sapien different species? Or is erectus a superset?
Ellen Brownpaste - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:49:07 EST X/qh5xwV No.4892088 Reply
Imagine you get to the future and the world is ending because your departure caused butterflies to fuck everything up.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:51:41 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892089 Reply
I thought erectus was a superset, but just to avoid confusion, homo sapien, which has been around for 200,000 years, could be taken to the present day and nothing would be distinguishing about them besides some viral genomes unincorporated in their DNA.
Hugh Blillyson - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:54:36 EST nJkrco7e No.4892090 Reply
Actually that raises another problem with time travel; there are likely diseases that people in the past were immune to, causing it to die out, then the immunity is lost. So we'd be high risk of disease back then too.

Ignoring that, it'd be fun to go back to an era where all the massive animals existed; the higher oxygen content in the air would mean you'd be high all the time.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:56:37 EST qLtdSMZN No.4892091 Reply
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Well that's definitely true. But as far as the semantics goes, I got this pic related.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:59:53 EST qLtdSMZN No.4892092 Reply
Microbes make everything so damn complicated. I love em but dammit, they're also rude sometimes.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:12:30 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892102 Reply
Actually, the immunity would still be present as viral genomes actually get incorporated into humans' DNA itself. This added DNA is passed down generation after generation, such that each proceeding generation has a longer DNA genotypic expression. I believe. As I was typing this, the thought occurred to me that the plague virus is making a comeback because certain populations are refusing vaccine treatment, so if their parents received the vaccine, then why aren't isn't the viral DNA incorporated into their children?
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:19:25 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892104 Reply
Actually, with the plague, those viruses become extinct and aren't necessarily incorporated into further generations of humans. The plague is not something that is inoculated in modern times, but Polio was.
Hugh Blillyson - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:20:16 EST nJkrco7e No.4892105 Reply
There's also concern about ancient viruses/bacteria being released from the melting permafrost so it does seem to be the case that through some mechanism, immunity is lost.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:20:59 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892106 Reply
Hopefully there is someone with a better understanding of Virology that can clarify these concepts.
Nicolas Appert - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:31:52 EST /9uTVUjB No.4892150 Reply
To spin further along that tangent though (ancient viruses/bacteria released from melting permafrost), there´s also the case of the microbial enviroment you are to begin with and how it would react to a higher average temp due to enviromental change. A whole species that only lived in a specific geographic area completely died out in the span of like a season, because the area got hotter than it had been for probably thousands of years, and the higher temps made normally benign bacteria in their guts thrive to a degree that killed the animals.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:41:00 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892155 Reply
Something is very flawed with the logic there. The gut environment, just as the entire inside environment of the human body, is kept at a temperature equilibrium. Living in a hot or cold environment does not change the inside body temperature.
Elijah Joy - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:46:11 EST qFZ+kaGb No.4892162 Reply

>On July 22, 2014 the city of Yumen, China was sealed off and 151 people were put in quarantine after a man died of bubonic plague.[95]
>On November 21, 2014 the World Health Organization reported[96] that there have been 40 deaths and 80 others infected on the island of Madagascar, with the first known case in the outbreak thought to have occurred in late August 2014.
>On May 22, 2015 the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare reported finding plague in dead ground squirrels in 24 places south of Boise in a roughly circular area about 45 miles (72 km) across.[97] On May 27, 2016, the Department reported more ground squirrels dead of plague in about the same area.[98] By December six cats— five from the Boise area, which is in southwestern Idaho, and one in the southeastern part of the state— were found to have plague. Four of the cats died; the other two recovered with antibiotic treatment. No human cases were reported.[99] Health authorities warned people to stay out of the affected area and issued advice about preventing contagion in people and pets.[needs update]
>In New Mexico, four people were diagnosed with the plague in 2015; one died. In 2016, four others were diagnosed and all were treated with success. Three others were diagnosed by late June in 2017. Vegetation such as pinyon and juniper trees are thought to support rodents such as the prairie dog and rock squirrel, with their fleas, according to Paul Ettestad of the New Mexico public health department.[71] As well, pets can bring back fleas from dead rodents, he said. The CDC indicates that over the past century, plague in the U.S. has been most common in the areas of northern New Mexico, northwestern Arizona and southern Colorado.[100]
>In Madagascar it resulted in deaths of 90+ persons by Oct 2017. While earlier cases of plague in Madagascar were mostly bubonic plague, the current cases were the more infectious pneumonic plague.[101]

What are you on about?


That's why I don't want spoilers.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:49:29 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892166 Reply
Right, climate change will definitely cause algae and bacterial overgrowth that will contaminate our water and food supplies, but the actual temperature of where we're living isn't going to change what's currently in our guts. Things like high fevers can actually cause some weird shifts in flora, but that's completely different. If it's 101 degrees outside, that doesn't mean it's 101 degrees in your stomach.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 13:52:01 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892167 Reply
I don't know what you're on about. Context is everything, and you can go back and reread my posts in this thread.
Elijah Joy - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 14:33:36 EST qFZ+kaGb No.4892194 Reply
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Well first of all, assuming you're talking of bubonic plague the plague is caused by a bacteria and you don't inoculate against bacteria. Polio is caused by a virus though so it makes sense. Secondly while viruses can change or add to DNA it doesn't have anything to do with the immune system and the immunity to a virus isn't inherited Which is why you need vaccines to this day. Thirdly, pathogens can live outside humans and hardly go extinct even if we wipe the disease out, they'll just chill and wait and evolve until they come back. Fourthly, I'm not even sure I get what youre trying to get at.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 14:42:39 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892198 Reply
If you have something to say, just say it. I even recognized that I was going outside my expertise and asked for someone with more knowledge on these concepts to illuminate the facts. So, you had something informative to say, but instead leveraged that against everything I had said beforehand, and condescendingly asked what I was "going on about." Only after retorting, did you even bother to share your information, which is now even more difficult to digest for anyone else in this thread because you're framing it as if my asking for someone's clarification was a debate against your knowledge.
Elijah Joy - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 14:56:30 EST qFZ+kaGb No.4892207 Reply
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You said that plague was extinct or so I thought and responded with recent cases of the plague assuming you were talking about the bubonic one. Then I read your other posts and you were talking about all that other stuff so I decided to try to clear some stuff up that you had wrong, but I couldn't really tell what your point actually was. I've been up for 30 hours or so, so my reading comprehension isn't at its best.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:00:57 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892212 Reply
I made a mistake. I knew in my head that the plague was bacteria and that bacteria isn't inoculated for, and I was trying to think of smallpox, but plague came into my head instead. I doubted whether or not immunity is inherited. I knew that viral DNA is incorporated into our genomes, but I wasn't willing to go so far as to say that immunity was inherited because I realized there were several instances where that doesn't make sense. I type in a very stream-of-conscious sort of way and I usually arrive at conclusions while I'm saying or typing them.
Grunkle Stan - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:03:43 EST rO+GGMpN No.4892213 Reply
It's all good. I don't remember what my point was. It was a very roundabout way of asking whether immunity is inherited or not, and now I realize that it isn't. However, I bet in some ways it is. I don't know, do you know if there are other mechanisms behind immunity that are perhaps inherited?
Elijah Joy - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:25:37 EST qFZ+kaGb No.4892228 Reply

Well the closest I can think of is.

>Maternal passive immunity is a type of naturally acquired passive immunity, and refers to antibody-mediated immunity conveyed to a fetus or infant by its mother. Naturally acquired passive immunity can be provided during pregnancy, and through breastfeeding.[4] In humans, maternal antibodies (MatAb) are passed through the placenta to the fetus by an FcRn receptor on placental cells. This occurs predominately during the third trimester of pregnancy, and thus is often reduced in babies born prematurely. Immunoglobulin G (IgG) is the only antibody isotype that can pass through the human placenta, and is the most common antibody of the five types of antibodies found in the body. IgG antibodies protects against bacterial and viral infections in fetuses. Immunization is often required shortly following birth to prevent diseases in newborns such as tuberculosis, hepatitis B, polio, and pertussis, however, maternal IgG can inhibit the induction of protective vaccine responses throughout the first year of life. This effect is usually overcome by secondary responses to booster immunization.[5] Maternal antibodies protect against some diseases, such as measles, rubella, and tetanus, more effectively than against others, such as polio and pertussis.[6] Maternal passive immunity offers immediate protection, though protection mediated by maternal IgG typically only lasts up to a year.[7]

>Passive immunity is also provided through colostrum and breast milk, which contain IgA antibodies that are transferred to the gut of the infant, providing local protection against disease causing bacteria and viruses until the newborn can synthesize its own antibodies.[8] Protection mediated by IgA is dependent on the length of time that an infant is breastfed, which is one of the reasons the World Health Organization recommends breastfeeding for at least the first two years of life.[9] '

But after that it's all up to your immune system to figure out. Also people suffering from sickle-cell trait, which is genetic, are more resistant to malaria.

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