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- Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:04:48 EST lQzDNnh+ No.4902326
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2d or 3D?
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Bird Keeper Clara - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:08:21 EST PVmXaqxl No.4902327 Reply
it's not fair dude they fixed her face in the drawing.
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Tony Schiavone - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:13:55 EST hZjO1+Mv No.4902329 Reply
If I had to guess, I'd say you got it right: the picture on the left is in 2D, while the one on the right is the full 3 dimensions
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Rumple Foreskin - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:34:33 EST 5h0NnKL6 No.4902334 Reply
>>4902329
Trick question, they are both in fact 2d masses of pixels projected onto a flat screen
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Prince Bubba - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:40:56 EST w3/BkVun No.4902337 Reply
>>4902334
Well lookie here, fancy pants McRumpleforeskin plugs his computer into a projector instead of a monitor like the rest of us mortals. No need to brag about your fancy ass computer setup, "milord".
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Keith Cholewinski - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:44:18 EST B7w5ydfa No.4902338 Reply
>>4902337

lol dawg used projectors are the easiest fucking thing to find ever when it comes to surplus computer equipment
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Tori - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 11:46:55 EST EsJMiczK No.4902354 Reply
How can you fuck an object that has no depth?
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Prosper Montagné - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 11:48:32 EST HFHUv8bS No.4902355 Reply
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>>4902354

Because their penis has no depth either

nb shit thread go back yada yada etc. etc.
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Marshall Law - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 11:56:29 EST XpjRoiH2 No.4902360 Reply
Omg fucking 3d yes please. Ass liek that on a cute faced Asian woman almost ought to be illegal it's so fucking hard to resist.
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Summer Glau - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 01:55:38 EST 6UWiV4RK No.4902671 Reply
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Why is live-action Japanese porn so bad when they have such amazing porn imagineers drawing a constant stream of amazing shit?
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Charles Bolton - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 01:57:56 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4902672 Reply
>>4902671
maybe the two go together. they have the draw porngineers so they really half-ass the live-action because why actually have sex when you can just jerk off to cartoons
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Walter Pigglekotch - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 03:37:23 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4902706 Reply
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>>4902671
yeah, the hand-crafted art the draw porngineers create are just fucking amazing things to behold, think I can actually count on my hands how many times I've watched old regular porn since after I really got into it, it's just better period.
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Gigi Edgley - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 09:49:56 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4903150 Reply
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>>4903103
oh gawd, it's not even that (yes, that too, but!), what got me to really switch mainly from live porn to hentai is that it's not corny sausage pizza so to say, there can be actual stories of all sorts of genre, and the motions aren't play-faked by the story's characters.
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Kathryn Janeway - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 10:11:19 EST nJkrco7e No.4903155 Reply
>>4903150
You think hentai is less fake than real people in porn?
I get what you mean but also what the hell?
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Marcus Diarrhea - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 10:49:37 EST AOUHVzwU No.4903162 Reply
>>4903155
People acting in porn are actors, while drawn people are non-existent. There is a difference between reality and authenticity, you know.
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Kathryn Janeway - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 11:15:29 EST nJkrco7e No.4903168 Reply
>>4903162
Yes, porn actors have reality but no authenticity, hentai has neither.
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Gigi Edgley - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 11:58:25 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4903179 Reply
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>>4903168
WRONG.
>>4903155
well, considering that quote-unquote "real" people in porn are just so-called "actors" trying to play characters... yes.
>>4903162
>There is a difference between reality and authenticity, you know
I rest my case and leave you to the wolves, thank you very much[!/i]
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Cedric Bucklestone - Tue, 10 Sep 2019 04:51:12 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4903440 Reply
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3D.

When are you babies going to grow up?
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Dejar - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 07:32:44 EST ePbGWTBo No.4903849 Reply
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>>4903732
>>4903820
Don't you find it sad when an artist who's experienced enough to be great samefaces like he's going to die if he doesn't? Tony's entire decision making process when drawing a female character comes down to choosing how to draw the hair, which always has the same texture no matter the character, and the clothing, which is typically minimal. It's especially sad considering that his male characters are always distinctive.
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Beemo - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:39:07 EST X/qh5xwV No.4903880 Reply
I won't ever fuck neither so what's the point?
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Isabella Naddlegold - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:51:47 EST LRfvv4VU No.4903885 Reply
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3d is only better if its a video
They dont make real good 2D video yet
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Dejar - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:06:37 EST ePbGWTBo No.4903888 Reply
>>4903869
He also has a same face problem, though, even if it's not as critical as T2's.
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Castle Valet Phineas - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:21:00 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4904021 Reply
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>>4903849
>artists like to stick a specific style
whaaa,,, , , , I'm shocked. SHOCKED I SAY.
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Clay Guida - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:39:01 EST w3/BkVun No.4904029 Reply
>>4904026
Would probably guess more
>I can work less for same pay if I use templates
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George Hale - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:40:19 EST 4fp5wcfv No.4904031 Reply
>>4902671
Easy question, one has more access to underground talent while the other is mostly controlled by the yakuza / censorship bs

Are you liable to make better porn as hobby or as an actress who's lied to & blackmailed (so the story goes)

Not to say good or bad shit doesn't exist on either side
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WesleyHezzlestit.icl - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:46:02 EST hXGNM03L No.4904035 Reply
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>>4904029
oh don't get me wrong, I respect the grift

gotta make that chedda
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Georgie Henley - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:47:57 EST 2Hva0WHS No.4904036 Reply
>>4903820
i'm gonna say this is actually a pretty good drawing

sucks that it had to go all lewd and shit and just couldn't draw her with the normal 02 plug suit
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 23:14:01 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4904238 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Raymond Oliver - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:00:49 EST HGwITWea No.4904250 Reply
>>4904088

I recently discovered back pain.

I suddenly feel a lot of empathy for big boobs girls.
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Rumple Foreskin - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:57:55 EST cDj9sbut No.4904273 Reply
>>4904238
I wish she fucked the large negro, it's a good doujin though
Still, doesn't hold a candle to shiwasu's nudist beach but then again that ones hard to beat in any category
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 04:29:14 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4904279 Reply
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>>4904273
what is it a doujin of??
also, Takumi got ya back boi!
>>4904276
don't post porn trying to wreck this thread
feel the flow fucka
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:19:08 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4904325 Reply
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>>4904289
you have many depths to delve yet, like back when shiwasu turned a tiny weak japanese boy into bob sapp, so
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Senator Kimara Cretak - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:37:20 EST 2vlJjeLy No.4904637 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Sylvain Grenier - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:03:39 EST w3/BkVun No.4905369 Reply
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>>4905363
Tbh always found witches to be more just cute and wholesome.
Might be missing some reference in that wannabe-part though.
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Nathaniel Heddlemed - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 21:07:52 EST rO+GGMpN No.4905405 Reply
I am turned the most on by eating pussy. I would like to see some three dimensional vaginas in this thread. 2d drawings of women suck because they are done by men.
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Nicholas Drudgeben - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 22:12:21 EST d2TzRlme No.4905420 Reply
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I find 2d women to be far superior to stinky, bitchy, high maintenance “3D” females. Just the other night, my 2D waifs contacted me on the psychic level to beg me to give me a handjob. Since she is extra-dimensional irl l and not extant writhing this 3D universe, I had to do the physical part, but she have me the best HJ for over 45 minutes until I came long and hard. She was very pleased, so was I. What 3D “woman” will gladly and enthusiastically give you good foreplay after she’s hooked you into a long term relationship ? Not many. 2D forever.
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Nathaniel Heddlemed - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 22:55:36 EST rO+GGMpN No.4905447 Reply
>>4905443
But these don't look like humans to me, they look like aliens, and i really appreciate and prefer the human figure :(
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King RIKI - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 22:58:52 EST m9DjGNM/ No.4905448 Reply
>>4905443
Some lady wrote to the UN begging them to stop japanese artists from depicting rape in their Hentai and the UN basically said that all these artists are women and we don't want to take away their livelihood
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Kid Ying - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:37:30 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4905499 Reply
>>4905448
>Some lady wrote to the UN begging them to stop japanese artists
that's adorable
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King RIKI - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 01:04:07 EST m9DjGNM/ No.4905513 Reply
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>>4905499
Ahem, so I got my facts mixed up. It's hard digging through the stuff without running into pol shit
Apparently it was a division of the UN that actually wanted Japan to ban that stuff, and this is the letter they replied with


Our Formal Opinion on the UN Committee for the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women's "Protecting Women's Rights in Japan - Proposal to Ban the Sale of Manga and Video Games Depicting Sexual Violence"
Introduction:
This year, on February 16th, 2016 the UN Committee for the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women held a "Protecting Women's Rights in Japan" conference. We would like to share our opinion on the "Proposal to Ban the Sale of Manga and Video Games Depicting Sexual Violence."
Opinion Summary:
We are absolutely in agreement that the protection of the rights of women in Japan is important. On the other hand, we think it should be carefully and seriously evaluated whether the measures taken to ensure those protections are valid ones or not. If we are asked to consider whether "Protecting Women's Rights in Japan" requires us to "Ban the Sale of Manga and Video Games Depicting Sexual Violence," then we must reply that that is an absolute "no."
Reasons for Our Opinion:
Reason #1 - The so-called sexual violence in manga and video games is a made-up thing and as such does not threaten the rights of actual people; therefore, it is meaningless in protecting the rights of women.
Reason #2 - In Japan, and especially when it comes to manga, these are creative fields that women themselves cultivated and worked hard by their own hand to create careers for themselves. If we were to "ban the sale of manga that includes sexual violence," it would do the opposite and instead create a new avenue of sexism toward women.
Detailed Explanation of Reasons:
About Reason #1 - It goes without saying that the rape and other crimes of actual real people who experience sexual acts from partners without consent is an actual violation of their rights concerning sexual violence and should obviously be forbidden by law, and that it's necessary to protect and support victims. However, the figures in manga and video games are creative fictions that do not actually exist, and thus this is not a violation of any real person's human rights. We should focus on attacking the problems that affect real women's human rights as quickly as possible.
About Reason #2 - In Japan, and especially when it comes to manga, these are creative fields that women themselves cultivated and worked hard by their own hand to create careers for themselves.
Already in the 70s there were women-focused manga magazines and many talented women manga writers came from them.
In this way, before the Equal Opportunity Employment Act for Men and Women passed in 1986, there was already a space where women flourished and had established the "shoujo manga" genre. And of course, within women's manga, sometimes the topic was of romance and sex.
Among the manga for women in our country, there were titles that took up the history of women's sexual exploitation and slavery. "The Cliff For Those Would Be Parents" by Fumiko Sone was one such work. Against the backdrop of the real history, it is a work that paints the life of a girl who lived in poverty and was sold into service as a prostitute for Bakusai Harem in Hokkaido's Muroran, and how she lives through the experience.
For the people who live in these times, it is manga like this that creates an opportunity for people to imagine the pain of women living in that era. However, because this work contains depictions of sexual violence, if we employed on a ban on the sale of "manga that depicted sexual violence," it would go out of print and eventually people would lose that chance.
If we were asked to give similar examples of manga that would go out of print and be unavailable if the ban on sales of "manga that depicted sexual violence" were in effect, there would be no end to the examples we could give, but "The Poem of the Wind and the Trees" by Keiko Takemiya and "BANANA FISH" by Akimi Yoshida would probably be listed among the examples. (Note that while both listed works contain sexual violence toward men, sexual violence is not a problem limited to only women, and therefore should not be treated as exclusively a women's rights issue.)
In this way, it can be predicted that if we were to ban the sale of "manga that depicts sexual violence," a great deal of publishers would cease publication of a huge amount of works. In the creative field of manga, the effect would be that women who have worked so hard to create a place for vibrant careers would have that place shrink right in front of them, as well as have their efforts negated. In addition, if we were to put ourselves in the places of manga readers the chance to know about the history of the sexual exploitation of women would be lost and method for them to come to know about it. If the creative fields of manga were attacked, trampled on and destroyed with such prejudice, it would damage not only the women manga writers, but also spread to other women creators in the field, as well as the female readers. This would be a sexist punishment that only narrows the career possibilities of Japan's women.
It is noted that on the other hand when it comes to "manga that depicts sexual violence" a certain segment of people are going to find it unpleasant. Nevertheless, to ban expression and commerce unilaterally based on feelings of whether or not something is unpleasant, or viewpoints on what should be moral, is a practice not to be condoned. The basis for feelings about what is or is not repulsive, and moral viewpoints, will differ based on the individual or their region and that culture's segmented local society. The basis for the values in Local Society A and the basis for the values in Local Society B are not necessarily going to match.Therefore it stands to reason to suddenly use one local society's standards as the standards of a society as a whole would only prompt a massacre of discord in conflicting values among the people in the greater society.
If we are to aim for the smooth operation of society as a whole, then there might be workarounds we can implement so that a certain type of person can avoid suddenly running into "unpleasant expressions" they don't want to see, but these should be limited to regulations in zoning and circulation only. We should not ban any manga that depicts "unpleasant expressions" under content guidelines that enforce moral standards unilaterally on society.
Conclusion:
As stated above, we cannot say that banning the sale of manga and video games that "depict sexual violence" is valid, even if we were to agree that the goal of protecting the rights of women is correct.
There is nothing to be gained from regulating fictional sexual violence. However, while you're trying to fix the rights of fictional characters, you're leaving the human rights of real women in the real world left to rot. As well, in Japan, the entire reason we have a media genre such as manga that developed to take on themes such as the sexual exploitation of women came from an attitude to tolerate "drinking the pure and the dirty without prejudice." It's because we had the freedom to express our views and with that to express the view of a world of humans that live and die, that there are pure and wonderful things and dirty and nasty things mixed with each other.
Manga is a field where women have put in their hard work and effort to cut forward paths and cultivate a place of their own. We believe that in order to protect this place from being trampled on, it will need our continued hard work to pass it on to the next generation, and it is this effort that will link to the greater freedom and rights of women.
The End
February 28th, 2016
Kumiko Yamada, Women's Institute of Contemporary Media Culture Representative and Designer

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