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Fuck america

- Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:41:55 EST Pzj/oBGn No.4925607
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How the fuck do i avoid this garbage in america? Even when i try to eat healthy. Pick up some chicken MODIFIED CORN STARCH, MODIFIED WHEY FLOUR, BLEACHED FLOUR, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR. Get a multi vitamins RED COLORD #40 ARITIFICIAL COLOR RDC #4.

Everything. Literally everything is fucking garbage. I cant eat ANYTHING in america besides fucking non gmo vegetables seriously. If i just want to pick up a snack at the store. Oh nope every single thing has chemicals except for canned beans.

What the FUCK dude. I look and see this shit and google it and everything i see thats disgusting is banned in the UK. FUCKING HORSE SHIT. Do other countries have this garbage shit in it?
Violet Stoolbutter - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:45:52 EST 9nrKy75k No.4925611 Reply
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Isn't the free market wonderful?
Lucy Steamcunt - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:02:34 EST 0KCNs8qo No.4925615 Reply
Canned beans have chemicals too. You could buy the antibiotic/organic versions. Buy raw food and cook it yourself. Make friends with farmers or people who hunt, or get into it yourself. If you live in a big city, youre shit out of luck, I think livestock ownership is banned from most of them.
Rocket Grunt Martin - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:24:42 EST clMeRHHg No.4925624 Reply
Last I checked, all food is literallymade of chemicals. Also, the same scientific progress that has allowed you to complain on this highly intricate digital platform about your small picture understanding of the world around you, has also been hard at work adapting to suit the needs of massive overpopulation through the modification of foods and food production/preparation/preservation methods. Only a spoiled little bitch could possibly have the first world "I'm being oppressed!" mentality to complain about it being too easy to produce enough food for everyone. People are living longer and healthier than ever before in human history on GMOs and preservatives. If you must throw a fit about something, how about the amount of perfectly good food we waste everyday? You know, enough to feed like, the entire homeless population in America? But no, you're complaining that you don't have access to produce grown under the most inconvenient, inefficient conditions. Food that's even more likely to go bad before anyone gets to eat it, because there can't be any wicked chemicals, and not everyone can afford to buy it regularly in the first place. You wouldn't be upset if you were already growing your own food, but you don't have time for that. Of course not! The system should change for *your sake*, even though it would be impossible to feed half as many people by your standards.
Hugo Weaving - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:51:54 EST bS19ePdd No.4925628 Reply
This meme thinks libertarians' main passion isn't doing consumer reports shit in their talk radio shows and facebook groups.

Oh how naive. Much like Libertarians.
Smokemoar McTokemoar - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:59:31 EST 3i8mkJYr No.4925630 Reply
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Yeah, America is a real shithole. Glad I don't live there.
Chef Wan - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 19:18:59 EST WRlmHQcF No.4925632 Reply
Bruv. Buy oatmeal. Buy the shit you want in oatmeal. Problem solved.

Hhow the fuck do you have oatmeal without salt? Is it labeled as "natural flavor" in the UK? Or do they not like flavor? The last 10 or so ingredients in the US version are just vitamins and minerals.

Also, "Food babe" is a terrible website you should feel awful about visiting. She's a dumb fucking dear-mongering charlatain. If you believe anything she says, then it's not worth it to try to tell you the truth. You're too fucking dumb to listen.
Stephan Bonnar - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 19:25:52 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4925634 Reply
The average person goes to the supermarket and buys the same ten items. Why not just avoid stuff you don't like instead of letting it whip you into a foam, blasting out hate-filled tirades about how one nationality is better than another? That's just.../pol/shit nobody wants to read.
Georges-Henri Lemaitre - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 19:42:36 EST EY6mY7q6 No.4925639 Reply
although it is ridiculous that they use apples with artificial strawberry flavouring instead of fuckin strawberries, I would like to point out that half that list is vitamins
>niacinamide, vitamin a, riboflavin, pyridoxine, thiamine, folic acid, iron
>citric acid is naturally found in fruit
ruins the point a bit
Tadashi Nakajima - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 20:28:31 EST JAabUWi9 No.4925646 Reply
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This is an apples to oranges comparison. The UK product is specifically marketed towards people afraid of artificial flavorings. If we compare a similar-in-intent product that's produced for Americans, then suddenly there's not such a difference in ingredients.
Geraldine Mcgurk - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 20:42:54 EST 9DGRfwSs No.4925652 Reply
many of those "chemicals" are fortified nutrients. whether they are useful or not who knows.

also, it's probably labelling laws; I'm sure the shit in brackets exists in the UK products, they just don't have to include them.

kind of like how "spices" in Canada can include preservatives, which is crazy.

besides, I'd rather die in the US than live in the UK, that place is an orwellian shithole
Charles Messier - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 20:51:03 EST bS19ePdd No.4925656 Reply
Nigga, these legit are not the same product line, and you can totally get the one on the right in America.

Also, nigga these "chemicals" are almost all vitamins. Like the shit you take in pills every day.

The one that isn't is Sodium Sulfite, which is a preservative.
NicholasGubberkatch.html - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:04:36 EST K/xajSPh No.4925658 Reply
Imagine how well off you are when the thing you complain about is the ingredients in your food
Geraldine Mcgurk - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:21:14 EST 9DGRfwSs No.4925659 Reply
imagine complaining about complaining on an instant breakfast anime board.
Jack Clammleshit - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:22:29 EST VWo78ESI No.4925660 Reply
He even looks proud on the UK version, like it's an honor to be the main provider of oats. On the US box he's up close and centered with smirk, "You have to eat this shit."
NicholasGubberkatch.html - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:24:10 EST K/xajSPh No.4925661 Reply
Imagine all the people... living for today... (moves in slowly to kiss you deeply)
Koopa Troopa - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:42:44 EST B7w5ydfa No.4925666 Reply

This. The one on the left is instant oatmeal, and OP is all butt-flustered that instant oatmeal has powdered creamers in it. No fucking shit, the one on the right expects you to add cream to it, unless you like oatmeal steeped in some water like the fuck.

Also yeah all that other shit is just added vitamins like the fuck nigga you're actually mad that you're being prevented from going anemic?
Jonathan Archer - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:59:12 EST XAcn6OVL No.4925670 Reply
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It’s literally a different product that is marketed entirely on being “so simple”. I woulda like to rally up and bitch with you about this problem but your example is bunk,

On the other hand, what do you really want to happen to all those industry biproducts?

Some of it is even both more eco-friendly, healthy or just benign, some of it is suspect. it is imo very suspect to use proper chemistry names to sell things like shaving cream made with rendered beef fat (read your labels if it has sodium tallowate, it is not vegan). This makes me laugh when I see “vegans”, when they are itching to pick fights about only the most obvious of animal products, but their kids are using crayons made of this product, it’s also likely in their their lipstick, paints, etc. to truly live as a 100% pure Vegan in USA would be very difficult. This is just one of many many examples of this sort of shit.
That’s not to say it’s not worth it to help where you can. nobody can fix this all by themselves. but we can all make dozens if not hundreds of decisions each day regarding how we will contribute and eat good foods and not allow ourselves to be surprised or ripped off by our own lackadaisical and ignorant approaches to what we consume.

I like to eat a lot of fruit, fresh fruit pick it from your own tree it sets you free
Caroline Drommerbury - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:13:35 EST T/BCZwyZ No.4925673 Reply
Op you are right but also stupid. most of these things isnt banned in the uk, and the uk has just as many artifical foods. when you go to an off licence (corner store) in the uk the shelves are stacked full of artifical crap, 200 kinds of artifical soda, etc. so, its like that, everywhere. this example doesnt make srense, because the product is marketed as "so simple": it indicates its marketed as a healthier alternative to other kinds of similiar product, that are like the picture on the US side, sold in the uk.
Porky Minch - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:34:46 EST 7JXWX72I No.4925676 Reply
Fuck you.
Sorry that's a little much and op is being a little silly but I'm dirt poor, with celiac, and multiple other dietary intolerances, and worrying about the ingredients in my food and going out of my way to get shit without any of that bullshit takes so much fucking time effort energy and money I don't God damn have.
Even if I could confirm the oats in both those boxes haven't been cross contaminated with wheat, I wouldn't be able to have the American one because of the sunflower oil.
Christopher Nowinski - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:37:41 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4925677 Reply
I have enough trouble getting myself to eat, if I had that situation I'm pretty sure I'd either starve or die of allergies or whatever
William Fowler - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:48:32 EST ucMjdX0b No.4925682 Reply
it's not a term I like very much but I guess you enjoy the taste of leather, massah bootlicker sir. be thankful to the dollar that the sun comes up every morning
Pierre Wynants - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 23:53:49 EST vVhnv67B No.4925701 Reply
That's a gigantic fucking leap to take without so much as a "you're mistaken about _________ because"...
I'm not praising the practices of the whole of the food industry. I'm just saying, we literally couldn't feed as many people as we can now, were it not for GMOs and preservatives (or, as OP is spooked about, vitamins). Tell me I'm wrong and why. Tell me how we could feed the world's population with traditional, rustic, pesticide free farming. If you don't have any better ideas, and are too lazy to grow/produce your own food, then don't bitch and moan that Whole Foods isn't good enough for you. And don't call perfectly edible and nutritionally adequate food that impoverished and homeless people- who still exist even in first world America- would be ecstatic to have, "garbage". That's ignorant as shit. Where the fuck did you read that I worship money?
Shitlick McSnifflewitz - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 00:33:13 EST QmBs14Cb No.4925721 Reply
>tell me how we could feed the world's population
we don't. even if we did, you have nothing to do with it. stop clinging to other people's accomplishments
Reuben Clabbernit - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 05:04:32 EST NvDgFZ0Y No.4925760 Reply
>while carbs like
>raw watermellon
>raw pumpkin
>raw grapes
>raw pineapple
>raw dates
>oat milk
>boiled sweet potatoes
>brown rice

>low glycemic index

Okey dokey, you just keep believing that!
Rick Story - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 05:49:27 EST nJkrco7e No.4925765 Reply
we currently make enough for for 11 billion people but throw most of it away before it even reaches the shelves, which includes meat - meat obviously needs land for the animals to be raised on but also the animal feed needs to be grown somewhere that could be used for growing human food. so yeah we could totally do it
Renzo Gracie - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:21:09 EST 7Md3AOwX No.4925832 Reply

This is why you do not buy brand names in America.

It takes more work, but research products online, find local shops that offer organic/healthy stuff, look at the ingredients of everything and find a brand you like. I love in America and it has taken a lot of effort but I have cut out most artificial ingredients in my diet. Helps that I live in Sacramento, CA which has a wide variety of food options, but you could do it anywhere with the internet.

Buy your own ingredients and make stuff. I make soap and room spray with some simple ingredients. Just do some work and research.
Bug Maniac Eugene - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:31:36 EST Pzj/oBGn No.4925838 Reply
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Y’all don’t believe me huh. I’m just gonna keep posting these
JarvisMebblecocke.dwg - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:35:24 EST CsDGTzEU No.4925842 Reply
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Had to scroll up to make sure I wasn’t in /tinfoil/ with all this front page shit.
Rick Story - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:37:00 EST nJkrco7e No.4925846 Reply
To be fair, Mountain Dew tastes disgusting on both sides of the Atlantic.
Violet Stoolbutter - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:38:34 EST FKfea+Kq No.4925847 Reply
Food and nutrition is like the lowest common denominator concern that all of humanity and indeed all life on earth is concerned with, so I don't understand how being concerned with what you eat is a purely first-world problem.
Pierre Wynants - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 09:48:28 EST RKOZfxbo No.4925849 Reply
Bruh, it's a vicious cycle: shit food makes you feel like shit and perform like shit, which makes you more likely to make bad choices and do a shitty job at your job, which means you won't be promoted, which means you'll stay poor. This is literally why there are so many shitty, easily accessible foods around: they want to keep the poor unhealthy and diseased.
Henry Draper - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:15:01 EST jf+M45j5 No.4925851 Reply

>trash food is made with trash ingredients

The fuck exactly were you expecting?

Who the fuck eats fruit loops anyway who isn't older than 4?
Bug Maniac Eugene - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:34:16 EST Pzj/oBGn No.4925857 Reply
But it’s not. Quit being a retard. All the shit in Europe is made mostly by plants that have health benefits. The plans used on everything is healthy for you on top of avoiding chemicals. It’s 100000x healthier

Anyone defending this is a retard
Friedrich von Struve - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 11:44:37 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4925872 Reply
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Damn, you're right, dude.

That's the face of a fucker who's trying to pass off some bunk oats.
HenryHurringman.pm6 - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 11:56:52 EST utoiCvkb No.4925874 Reply
I don't know about you guys but I really feel america is starting to lose it's luster that it once had in my head. I don't know if it's getting older or that america is becoming progressively worse but I feel the only people who are proud patriots are MAGA stallionolds who can't see any wrong in our country. You can't improve a society if you never criticize it and make it better.

America is great on paper, with a lot of freedom and laws that protect people who create things. But maybe the average person ruins it since they're so dumb and easily swayed by media or a talking head
Galactic Boss William - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:07:57 EST 6fkc+3b/ No.4925878 Reply
>it's the average person ruining America
>not the literal satanic pedophile robber barons poisoning the food supply
come on man
Captain Tel-Peh - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:08:03 EST HFHUv8bS No.4925879 Reply

Dude, that's because America is fucked up as fuck and always has been. It's killed millions of people around the world through military force. At the time the US entered WWII it had more citizens in colonies around the world than in the continental US, despite the attempt of US leadership to not appear as an empire. The ford motor company manufactured nazi war machines in Germany during WWII, yet refused to do the same for the US. Roughly 5.4 million people killed in Vietnam by the US, more than 10% of their population. Secret bombing campaigns in Laos using cluster bombs and white phosphorous. Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Panama, Cambodia, Brazil, all attacked by the US military.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Porky Minch - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:12:20 EST 7JXWX72I No.4925881 Reply
I don't disagree with the spirit of your post but
>The ford motor company manufactured nazi war machines in Germany during WWII, yet refused to do the same for the US.
what the ACTUAL fuck are you even talking about

>The company produced 390,000 tanks and trucks, 27,000 engines, 270,000 Jeeps, over 8000 B-24 bombers, and hundreds of thousands of parts, gun mounts, and machine tools for the war effort. It ranked third among corporations in the value of wartime production contracts.
Captain Tel-Peh - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:16:14 EST HFHUv8bS No.4925884 Reply

That's the last time I trust oliver stone. You're missing out on this too, 86,865 complete aircraft, 57,851 airplane engines, 4,291 military gliders, and thousands of engine superchargers and generators
Magma Leader Ian - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:35:37 EST COtejjUc No.4925912 Reply
Stop taking pots shots at people, it doesn't make you better.
Christopher Nowinski - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:44:04 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4925913 Reply
Stop stopping stoppers, stopid. Stoppity stoop stahp starp.
Alice Hupperbork - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:03:03 EST yn02c6OM No.4925915 Reply

Nate Marquardt - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 17:19:19 EST 9BM/9OmI No.4925955 Reply
I'm already made of chemicals. Why not add more?
Christopher Nowinski - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:00:49 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4925963 Reply
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hey guys, i heard we're discussing chems? you got a ride of choice? I'm a mentats ghoul myself
John Dandlenan - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 19:31:15 EST E1d9lAtp No.4925984 Reply
“America gay britain better” is the political version of 90s kids
Subaltern Lorot - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:34:00 EST bi+eT8BY No.4925998 Reply
You buy freshfood and not instant food. Also most of those ingredients are fine.

I buy coach's oats and make my own oatmeal like a responsible adult
Thomas Henderson - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:36:22 EST Ksp+Oac0 No.4925999 Reply
>it's another episode where we pretend the major health problems in the first world are tied to anything less but sugar, meat, and salt trying to make the same tired "woke" points about america that you could find dribbled out on message boards in 2006
Ivan Menjivar - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:40:10 EST Rp7PbGv5 No.4926000 Reply
There's literally nothing wrong with GMOs. Food would be healthier and cheaper if the population didn't have such a shit-fit about them.
Phineas Werryshaw - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:54:28 EST tk82ookq No.4926003 Reply
This, the truth is that GMOs themselves are not inherently bad, its the COMPANIES that develop them that are evil. If he idea of a private corporation owning the genome of a major food species (like corn, wheat ect) scares you, this is what i'm talking about. TL'DR GMOS might be the cure world hunger but Monsanto are dicks so it's not
Hugh Greenville - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 22:22:22 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926027 Reply
The thing is, it's not like we don't have enough food to feed the world. But because we have to uphold a system, billions of pounds of food goes to waste every month.

Bioengineering could prevent a lot of things, but it's not even needed if they did things right. And so far all they've done is make crops resistance to herbicides so that they can drench them in roundup, creating super resistant bugs in the process and drastically fucking up the environment.

Honestly, Monsanto has tainted the concept of GMOs, and bioengineering should just be phased out of the agricultural industry for good. It's a solution to a problem that they're actively perpetrating.
George Cleffingtat - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 22:28:09 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4926029 Reply
no we have enough people, stop trying to end world hunger. if people are too stupid to realize they can provide for a family before they start shitting out babies all over the place then they're too stupid to eat.

I know I know, that's horrible and I'm a terrible person and how dare I lack compassion or whatever. I'm sick of compassion, it's stupid. probably a major character flaw I'll have to work on for many years. I did used to be nice. but you know, life happens. and then you stop giving a fuck.
Godiva - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 22:55:01 EST utoiCvkb No.4926037 Reply
The average person is extremely impressionable and gullible. They'll believe anything with the right propaganda and conditioning. Even memes on the internet will influence people. The elites are a problem since they cause it, but the people are to blame for barely having sentience and agency

Also I really doubt they're literal satanic pedophiles.
Hugh Greenville - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 22:58:25 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926040 Reply
Yea, that kind of goes into "ecofascism" territory but I honestly agree.

There are religions that pretty much tell you to breed as much as possible like it's your duty. It's a HUGE problem in India and among Catholics, and these people will ignore anything they're told outside of their religion.

We need to abolish all organized religion and tax people who want to have 8+ kids. Can't fuck around like that anymore.
Charles Robinson - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 00:01:34 EST QLTOtYac No.4926048 Reply
Yeah why do some families have ten kids yet there are couples who can't naturally conceive their own son and daughters? Not even trolling here. Fams get two kids, two tries to get it right and that's it. If that was the policy pre '92 I wouldn't have been born but hey there are tons of young'ns looking for leadership and family around the world. If we used our land responsibly, overpopulation wouldn't even be an issue. We'd have enough land to house everyone. But no, let's have most of you twats grow corn or soy and we'll pay you extra so it looks like you made a profit. Where'd the profit come from? Of course; tax payers! The layman wants to lower those but that consequentially means your earning a living is worth less. What do you do? Diversify your crops and cycle veggies and plants in and out to maintain a beautiful soil ecology and profitable production venue? Yep, that's what you do.

This thread didn't start on that note at all. But it ought to. If you want something to eat that you can understand, grow it yourself! Become a teacher. Spread success.
LillianDebberlock.pdf - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 00:34:39 EST E0x8KwQY No.4926060 Reply
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Did you know there's not a single horse slaughter house licensed to sell horse meat in america? Why doesn't the government want it's people to have this delicious and nutritious meat? The FDA hate the american people!
Nicholas Pingerpudge - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 01:33:08 EST 9c/f1K+H No.4926073 Reply
I have been saying this for years. Bring on the horsemeat!
Tim Kennedy - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 01:39:43 EST 9rqR8lyD No.4926077 Reply
It's really not that good. There's a reason people don't eat it all that much. Basically a gamey beef.
Renzo Gracie - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 01:49:09 EST JAabUWi9 No.4926083 Reply
Venison is a gamey beef and people love eating it. The only reason anybody cares is because Americans worship the idea of the frontier and export their shitty ideas of cowboys + indians across the world.
Jeffrey Jizzstain - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 02:24:43 EST nArjsrgJ No.4926088 Reply
>all examples are of shitty diet foods
LillianDebberlock.pdf - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 12:40:54 EST E0x8KwQY No.4926156 Reply
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obviously a disinfo agent on the FDA payroll. Don't believe these lies HORSE MEAT IS DELICIOUS
Sam Fisher - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:02:50 EST yLinEuax No.4926184 Reply
Maybe if we raised them for meat. They just don't have that great a flavor.
Robert Wilson - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:09:52 EST df05SZDh No.4926186 Reply
I'll be the judge of that, thank you very much. I've said it before, and I'll say it again- horses are useless in the modern world, if not for food. I want horseburger.
Arno Penzias - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 15:16:08 EST KDxD1lu2 No.4926193 Reply
The french eat horse fairly frequently, i think its more common in some of the rural areas
Tim Kennedy - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:04:18 EST 9rqR8lyD No.4926206 Reply
It's like whale. The Japanese included it in school lunches as extra protein because they couldn't find other sources of meat. It's not that it's taboo to eat whales that people don't do it. They just taste fucking disgusting. If whale tasted as good as one of our regular meats I assure you that we would all be manning the harpoons on the daily.
Admiral Nechayev - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:52:08 EST gLRAVaVF No.4926368 Reply
Have you ever had whale or are you just talking out your ass?
Vagina McPenison - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 13:13:38 EST XAcn6OVL No.4926375 Reply
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When the shit goes down i genuinely am just going to eat people. Meats meat, especially if it’s fine as hell before you cook it. If I show up at camp with an ass and set of legs (sexy pumps still on feet) carried on my shoulders by the ankles, and I plop that sucker down in front of your hungry ass, don’t you lie, you will be glad to see it. You might even want to get weird with it, but that’s nasty and you are nasty for thinkin it.
Firebreather Polly - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 14:43:24 EST Cvblwco5 No.4926400 Reply

But we will never find out whether semen makes a good cooking ingredient or not if you don't let us get weird with it. Unless you already tried it, in that case you've got a point.
Fucking Grimway - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 15:44:30 EST YWwsKy9q No.4926413 Reply
wow, something that actually makes me happy to live in the uk.... amazing.
Super Nerd David - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:01:19 EST hxxbvyvu No.4926414 Reply
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Freedom means more responsibility.

In the UK people are forced by law to pay for a TV license.
That's right a license for your TV.
If you don't pay it government agent can show up at your house and request entry to check if you own a TV.
If you refuse they can call the cops and the cops will force you to let them inside.

Check youtube if you don't believe me.

That's just one example. In the UK they still have positions of political power such as Lords which is a title you can purchase for money.
Just pay for the title and get political influence, no election hassle needed lol.

Plenty more things better in America too. Pros and cons w both.
Vagina McPenison - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:05:40 EST XAcn6OVL No.4926417 Reply
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No, what are we Romans? This is just survival man and you want to make it weird. “Don’t ask don’t tell” is as far as I can go with that sorry man.

No, I haven’t been there in like 10 years. Are you implying I’m being an edge lord of something? I’m obviously joshing a bit but seriously look at estimates of what would happen if some full on economic shutdown occurred and the type of shit that happens in countries that go into a full shutdown (like no NATO or foreign aid rice even, just you and ass meat sandwiches). There are plenty of potential scenarios where we will have to Eventually eat the legs and ass and pelvic region of thicc and attractive women (of age) just to survive.
Imagine cutting into a roasted butt though and pulling out a big floppy Nicki Minaj type ass implant, weird feels man.
I kinda feel like the whole “zombie apocalypse” fetish is just a veiled morbid fascination with this reality that we don’t want to acknowledge which is potentially awaiting us, except it’s even worse, because the real “zombies” are actually just humans who will inevitably go full human without all the everyday niceties that allow them to pretend to be domesticated, and that at its worst makes CHIMPANZEE RELATED TERROR look like childplay in comparison
EbenezerSupperhat.pl - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:12:10 EST HFHUv8bS No.4926420 Reply

Back in my day, people got perm'd for blasphemy like this
Thomas Edwards - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 03:29:27 EST vkOTkP79 No.4926786 Reply
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Can any of you luddite fucks explain to me what exactly is wrong with GMO, other than that it's """"""unnatural""""""? And don't bring up corporate practices, it has not a single thing to do with GMO as a concept.
Cutman - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 03:55:49 EST JAabUWi9 No.4926792 Reply
You wanna know what else is owned by megacorps with massive armies of lawyers?
Everything about your modern life. Fighting scientists is not equivalent to fighting the system and runs counter-intuitively to that notion.
Caroline Herschel - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 03:59:53 EST m+lGnEhG No.4926795 Reply
We get 14 different ingredients in our my. Dew you guys only get 9, you're getting fkn jipped fools, it isn't the same without that good ol brominated vegetable oil in it mmmm mmmm

Lulz jk that's the exact ingredient that makes me NOT even drink my. Dew
Thomas Edwards - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 04:21:47 EST vkOTkP79 No.4926802 Reply
> Genetic manipulation is untested
It literally has to be tested to be approved for usage.
> Monsanto
I told you to not bring it up.
Thank you.
Caroline Herschel - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 04:22:14 EST m+lGnEhG No.4926803 Reply

Well you see the problem in America is we have been overrun with a criminalistic cabal known as the deep state who sold us out to greedy corporations that have placed the Healh and well bring of their consumers beneath their annual profit shares, when they can use less real ingredients that cost more and add in a shit ton of cost cutting poisions and chemicals what's a few million people with cancer and diabetes compared to them raking in millions of dollars a year? America is all fucked up, but Patriots are slowly getting a handle on it 😉
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:07:09 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926815 Reply
It's not fucking needed.

Even if some super crop came along that naturally repelled insects, was immune to disease and had an enhanced nutritional profile, nobody knows what the long-term consequences of developing these types of crops would be or how it would impact ecosystems. Just as the current GMO crops unknowingly altered insects and have created a mess.

And when you go down the path of modifying genetics of anything and everything, where do you draw the line? The concept of genetic modification is dangerous and can cause irreversible damage.
NellMenningwell.swp - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:20:11 EST lIgAIe7+ No.4926820 Reply
i work in a kitchen
doesn't matter where you eat
how they source their food
how from scratch it is
you're fucked
the plastic containers every place in the us uses
they're not BPA FREE
and they're ran thru hot dishwashers and frozen and and filled with hot soups
them chemicals are leeching into your vegan butternut squash
like lead in the roman pipes
Thomas Edwards - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:23:00 EST vkOTkP79 No.4926821 Reply
> It's not fucking needed.
Who the fuck are you to say that and what are you basing it on? If you're trying to say that we don't need it for survival, then you can say the same for all technology. Technically, we don't need electricity or fire or housing or modern medicine, we can all live in the jungle and die of old age at 25. Go fuck yourself.
> nobody knows what the long-term consequences of developing these types of crops would be or how it would impact ecosystems
Humanity has been creating new strains and breeds and even species of animals for tens of millennia, the biosphere's just fucking fine. Using gene editing instead of artificial selection is much safer, since at the very least we know what changes we are making, you stupid twat.
> Just as the current GMO crops unknowingly altered insects and have created a mess.
We are learning in practice. Early cars used to be wheeled coffins, do you think that we should have stopped using and developing them, you relative-molesting Neanderthal?
> where do you draw the line?
We don't. We don't draw them with other technologies, what makes gene editing different, you monkey-brained savage?
> The concept of genetic modification is dangerous
No it fucking isn't, you fucking luddite piece of shit, I wish I could poison your food and watch you die in agony, you pathetic excuse of a human being.
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:33:47 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926825 Reply
Not every place uses plastic containers, dingus.

The places I've been at make their soup at the start of the day and they're in steel pots and are served in actual bowls.

But I mean, anything with water in it is already contaminated with microplastics. Beer has a shitload of microplastics in it for example.
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:40:55 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926827 Reply
>biosphere's just fucking fine.
What planet do you live on, you dope? Do you have your head in the sand?

>We are learning in practice
Yea, well, you can't undo biological alterations. It's not like a car, you turbo dweeb perma-virgin.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 05:44:52 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926828 Reply
> What planet do you live on, you dope?
Our ecological problems have nothing to do with gene editing, you fucking imbecile.
> you can't undo biological alterations
You can. You literally can. That's one of the things that makes gene editing so great. You clearly have not a single idea of what you're talking about.
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:05:06 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926831 Reply
The creation of super insects were a direct cause of gene editing, and the impacts that it caused damage to numerous insect communities.

Genetically modified pollen has polluted other crops.

If this were something that only had an effect on your world, fine. Have your freak CRISPR babies and science experiment dinners. But this technology has impacts non-gmo agriculture, so it can fuck right off.

And get some self-awareness, you narcissistic dweeb. You didn't get enough wedgies growing up.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:18:03 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926836 Reply
> The creation of super insects were a direct cause of gene editing, and the impacts that it caused damage to numerous insect communities.
> Genetically modified pollen has polluted other crops
As I said, we're learning in practice. Gene editing is also used to combat invasive and otherwise dangerous species, do you have a problem with that, too?
> freak CRISPR babies
Oh, so you're against even using gene therapy to cure disease? You really are a Luddite.
> this technology has impacts non-gmo agriculture
Fuck non-GMO agriculture, we don't need it anymore. You want "natural", go live in the woods.
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:31:54 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926839 Reply
I do live in the woods, actually.

And the non-gmo industry is fucking huge and has reshaped markets, it's not going away.

Eventually cross-pollution from gene-edited pollen will have fines.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:51:56 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926851 Reply
> I do live in the woods, actually.
And yet you use the internet. Technology's only bad when you don't use personally, eh?
> it's not going away
They said the same thing about radio.
> Eventually cross-pollution from gene-edited pollen will have fines.
Eventually people against GMO will be euthanised.
Monsanto's not the only organisation that makes GMO. Being against GMO because of Monsanto is like being against cars because Henry Ford was a fascist.
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:55:08 EST HFHUv8bS No.4926853 Reply

But the automobile industry is fucked up as fuck, inherently tied to the fossil fuel industry, and subsequently tied (as it has been for nearly 150 years) to imperialist arms industries.
Marcel Boulestin - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:56:04 EST k2Ydxnuw No.4926854 Reply
lots of empty promises, produces seeds you can't plant again, gives a malevolent corporation way too much control of the food supply, threatens the very foundation of human civilisation
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:59:51 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926855 Reply
Lol I'm not even anti-tech.

And there's a bit of a difference between telecommunication and agriculture.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:00:53 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926857 Reply
The industry is not the technology.
Monsanto's business practices have not a single thing to do with gene editing as a technology. I specifically told you fucks to not mention it.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:03:25 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926860 Reply
> Lol I'm not even anti-tech.
You literally are, you're just inconsistent about it.
> there's a bit of a difference between telecommunication and agriculture
There's a bit of a difference between medicine and agriculture as well, and yet you oppose using gene editing in medicine too. You're concern trolling on behalf of agriculture, but you don't give a shit about it, you've just decided to neophobically reject gene editing because you're a monkey-brained, glue-sniffing Luddite.
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:05:34 EST HFHUv8bS No.4926861 Reply

How is the industry not inherently tied to the technology? The very industry itself relies on ravaging the natural world in order to gather the resources to build both the massive, polluting factories to build the vehicles, as well as the resources for fuel. Everything about the technology is destructive to the natural world.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:05:48 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926862 Reply
You aren't making an argument against GMO, you're making an argument against Monsanto. Those are not equivalent.
> shill
Oh, for fuck's sake,
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:07:01 EST HFHUv8bS No.4926863 Reply

But that's the way the universe functions. In order for one thing to exist another must not. Therefore in order to advance scientifically it's absolutely necessary that we ravage the natural world. nb
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:08:08 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926865 Reply
So you're saying that it's utterly impossible to produce and use cars in a responsible manner and that we should do away with them altogether, is that right? I hope you understand how stupid you sound. I won't reply to you anymore.
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:08:23 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926866 Reply
You can be against one type of technology and for another, like what the fuck are you even talking about?

Why do you have a hard time accepting that gene editing makes many people wary?

Especially when used by people like you, who have eugenic desires.
Marcel Boulestin - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:12:16 EST k2Ydxnuw No.4926867 Reply
and what about the empty promises and seeds that can't be planted? in india and south america gmo fields die off in huge numbers and plants with their own pesticides only caused pests to become imune within one or two years and nothing was gained. gmo throws out plants that didn't have to survive evolutionary pressure and are only suitable for some very limited areas.
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:12:19 EST HFHUv8bS No.4926868 Reply

No, I'm saying that the technology itself is inherently destructive. We are the most violent and destructive species every known. We've been on a relentless quest leading towards the destruction of the natural world.

But it doesn't matter what we do to the natural world, because existence is inherently meaningless. There's no purpose to humanity existing, or Earth, life, or anything related, so we have no defining purpose towards sustainability other than instinctual drives which don't account for long term effects.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:12:54 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926869 Reply
> You can be against one type of technology and for another
Hence why I'm saying that you're an inconsistent Luddite. It's actually the norm: people are fine with the technologies they grew up with, it's only the new ones that trigger a panic response in their underdeveloped brains.
> Why do you have a hard time accepting that gene editing makes many people wary?
Because they're "wary" for completely irrational reasons. It's not like you've considered the risks and benefits of gene editing and decided that it's not worth it, you first got spooked by a new technology and then went looking for reasons to justify your response. As I said, it's very common.
> Especially when used by people like you, who have eugenic desires.
I'm also a nazi, and I sodomise farm animals.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:16:38 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926870 Reply
> empty promises
What promises? We were promised flying cars, should we do away with the ones we have because that promise was never fulfilled? Do you even read the shit that you post in this thread?
> in india and south america gmo fields die off in huge numbers
So? Cars sometimes crash, should we never drive them?
Rash - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:20:34 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4926871 Reply
Blind acceptance of new technology is totally a trait to be proud of.

Nuclear weaponry, wow, what an improvement.
Vladamir Fistputin - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:21:23 EST S38I3j3i No.4926873 Reply
Nobody cares what you want.

"Why are people against GMOs?" "Because we've seen what happens when you allow a massive megacorp with no regulations patent seeds and nobody wants it."

Yes, this means you can't have your GMO world. Individuals don't have enough information to be for or against GMO food on any level, but they know bullshit when they see it and they recognize corporate capitalist lies. There is no way to inb4 that shit.
Spinal - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:25:38 EST bHlYXDEK No.4926876 Reply
lol new ager shills up ITT pretending being owned by the multibillion dollar organic lobby is something to be more proud of and somehow "against capitalism"
nothing worse than a latte liberal
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:28:25 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926878 Reply
> gene editing = nukes
All right, I'm done with you. User ignored.
The problem of Monsanto is a problem of capitalism, not of gene editing as a technology. How many times must I repeat that?
> Individuals don't have enough information to be for or against GMO food on any level
Luddite saying "we just don't know" — check.
Vladamir Fistputin - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:30:01 EST S38I3j3i No.4926880 Reply
The only person I've seen with that opinion is (You). If someone in this thread is upsetting you, it's okay to smash that reply button and quote their post so we know what the hell you're talking about, otherwise you look an awful lot like Chinabot.
Vladamir Fistputin - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:32:43 EST S38I3j3i No.4926881 Reply
Suck more capitalist dick. How's it taste? Drinking all that cum won't immunize you when the megcorps streamline the food supply. Why do you want to give unmanaged, unregulated corporations more control? At least suck off a Japanese or Dutch company, not Monsanto. Who's paying you to defend them? You can get paid for this, you know.
Lyle Beerbohm - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:33:15 EST u9pnms24 No.4926882 Reply
Supporting agriculture with no chemical runoff, no sewage sludge fertilizer, using sustainable practices and standards IS something to be proud of.

This isn't a "oh you're no better" type of thing. Supporting organic agriculture is objectively better for the environment because of the regulations and standards that are required to be certified.

Real nice try though, dummy.
Lyle Beerbohm - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:40:32 EST u9pnms24 No.4926887 Reply
You literally just said being against one type of tech and for another is being "an inconsistent Luddite"

So to be clear, you're for gene editing technology but against nuclear technology?
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:41:45 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926888 Reply
Quote me saying that I wish that Monsanto was given unlimited control over the food supply. I'm waiting. No, wait, I'm not. User ignored.
> regulations and standards that are required to be certified
Are you saying that it's impossible to have standards and regulations with GMO? How does that even make sense in your head?
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:45:40 EST HFHUv8bS No.4926892 Reply
This thread is proof that agriculture was a mistake. Terence was right. We should still be in the sticks, wiping our asses with our hands, at the mercy of the gods of our imaginations.

Spinal - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:46:42 EST bHlYXDEK No.4926893 Reply
>hurr agriculture without runoff
Oh look, it's a deluded tool of the bourgeois who thinks you can denude landscapes and plow fields endlessly to feed billions of people without fucking the water table because they used pyrethrins instead!

You're at the stage where you haven't read enough to realize just how fucked everything is and thinks social democracy will save us. The state fixes all! It knows all! Please save us from ourselves, oh mythical overlords of bureaucracy!
Peri - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:48:52 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4926894 Reply
>Are you saying that it's impossible to have standards and regulations with GMO? How does that even make sense in your head?
Gosh, idk, because it's been 20 years and the only people who seem to be imposing any standards or regulations are India, China, Brazil... That's how it makes sense in my head, because it's been tried and it doesn't work. Monsanto is too big. They just buy the election if it looks like there's a politician who wants to regulate them. It makes sense in my head because I can observe the effects of attempts to regulate megacorps by the US government in real-time and it doesn't work.
Lyle Beerbohm - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:49:43 EST u9pnms24 No.4926895 Reply
No, I'm saying the current organic industry has regulations and standards, there's departments in most countries that assess farms to assure they meet the requirements.

The GMO industry doesn't have this, as GM seeds are only used on conventional farms, which have no regulations.

If conventional farming has no standards, then GMO agriculture has no standards.

What exactly is there to not understand?
Peri - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:49:44 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4926896 Reply
LMAO my guy, nothing is fucked. People are choosing not to live sustainably.
Michael Cimino - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:50:28 EST ROpq0DAd No.4926897 Reply
>I wish I could poison your food and watch you die in agony, you pathetic excuse of a human being
That's an extremely normal and regular response from someone who is clearly just motivated by pure and informed scientific inquiry and totally isn't being driven by some emotional hate-filled agenda tainted by propaganda and irrational tribalism.
Lyle Beerbohm - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:54:32 EST u9pnms24 No.4926899 Reply
Shut the fuck up, libertarian.

Improving agriculture by setting standards is something that needs to happen now.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:58:42 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926900 Reply
> They just buy the election if it looks like there's a politician who wants to regulate them.
That applies to all big businesses everywhere. What does gene editing in particular have to do with it? Your solution to capitalism misusing technology isn't to wrestle it away from the hands of the capital, but to reject technology itself. It's just stupid.
> conventional farms, which have no regulations
Then introduce regulations to conventional farms. There, problem solved.
You and others in this thread are pointing to political problems, but present them as technological problems. It just doesn't make sense.
> propaganda
What propaganda?
Marc Forgione - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:05:26 EST Ng2tXNuc No.4926902 Reply

>stop breeding so many beef cattle
>stop wasting land growing their food
>use land to better feed humans and other life forms
>no more monocultures, farm should basically be like the amazon, which is just a really really old manmade garden basically. The farm should create it's own ecosystem, where we don't have to do anything besides go in and forage our food responsibly and with respect to nature, like Jah intended.
Lyle Beerbohm - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:19:08 EST u9pnms24 No.4926911 Reply
>You and others in this thread are pointing to political problems,

Because I was replying to the braindead libertarian, not you (the arrogant nutter).

But, the technology is flawed as well. Recent studies have shown that gene-edited organisms are prone to unintended and unexpected effects at the molecular level and they have many unknown interactions with ecosystems, which is why they cannot be applied on a global scale.

There are simply better methods coming forward, that are far more established.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:22:11 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926912 Reply
> There are simply better methods coming forward, that are far more established.
See? That's a typical Luddite phrase. Because a young technology isn't completely safe now means that we should absolutely never use it. And you're surprised that I'm calling you stupid.
Lyle Beerbohm - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:28:38 EST u9pnms24 No.4926913 Reply
Because introducing an organism with unknown effects into an ecosystem on a global scale is a horrible idea, especially when the current tech is inferior in every sense.

You sure you're not the dummy here, Karl?
Peri - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:28:50 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4926914 Reply
>That applies to all big businesses everywhere. What does gene editing in particular have to do with it?
Peri - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:29:48 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4926915 Reply
Nobody is surprised that you're having trouble articulating yourself.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:33:05 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926918 Reply
I say that gene editing is good and you interpret it as me saying that we should immediately get to enhance Ebola without considering the consequences.
Yes, I'm sure that you're the dummy here, Lyle.
Peri - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:37:44 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4926921 Reply
Well I'm looking around at the actual effects of what you're talking about and I think you've got your head up your ass if you think it's that simple. So either you're being disingenuous or you're blind and deaf and totally out of touch with the world around you, it's one or the other. Things don't just happen outside of their broader context and you're calling everyone stupid for saying that you need to look at the broader context. You need to reflect.
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:41:36 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926923 Reply
> I'm looking around at the actual effects of what you're talking about
You mean that you cherry-pick data to justify your irrational fear of new technology.
Gene editing has immense potential. Nobody's saying that there are no risks, only that the benefits greatly outweigh them. People sometimes react badly to vaccines, should we all stop getting them?
Peri - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:50:20 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4926930 Reply
You're in a world right now that is full of necessary vaccines only a handful of rich people can afford. You may want to pick a different false equivalency because that one seems quite apt.
Leon Belmont - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:54:17 EST W5L17+04 No.4926931 Reply
I'm with ya, bud. GMO's are safe. Gene transfer happens all the time in nature. There's definitely valid concerns, especially WRT pesticide use, and GMO's like mosquitos. But overall, it's good for the food system, and benign to the environment (if not beneficial).
Karl Swarzchild - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 09:06:17 EST l6TvZrz4 No.4926936 Reply
That is indeed quite apt, because, as Leon pointed out, you keep confusing problems of politics and economy with problems of technology. Considering that I've been hammering this point down for quite a few posts now, I have to conclude that you can't be that dense and are instead being wilfully ignorant. When you have to use bad faith arguments to prove your point, maybe it's time to reconsider your views?
Bryce Remsburg - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 09:26:58 EST HFHUv8bS No.4926944 Reply

In all fairness, the technological and industrial revolutions of the US were the direct result of unhampered political tampering. The wanton disregard for sustainable use of natural resources is one of the biggest reason for the technological boon witnessed within the US. The access to such large quantities of natural resources allowed companies within the US to operate in ways which were impossible in other nations due to limited resources.

I'm not arguing for or against the morality of modern technology, but merely recognizing that our technological advances as they came to be in the last 200-300 years are directly related to a disregard for the preservation of the natural world. Massive quarry efforts, deforestation, and unrepentant manipulation of nature were absolute necessities of achieving that which we have.

At this point, we've got the technology to step back a ways and begin to move forward with sustainability, but that means we need massive industrial reformation. The way our global, technological society operates today relies entirely upon massively destructive practices. That's just the way it is, unfortunately.
Peri - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:33:51 EST fQDQ1MxT No.4926954 Reply
You just said, "in all fairness, the industrial revolution was a result of industrialization and the technological revolution was a result of technology."
Marc Forgione - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:47:06 EST Ng2tXNuc No.4926975 Reply
No, he said the extremely fast growth of industry and tech is due to our disregard for the natural balance of ecosystems, resources, native species, etc.
Yak Nosaline - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:35:53 EST Jsg1OcyO No.4927435 Reply

Bro. Just move out of the USA and move to Canada. Things aren't perfect here but they're good, bring your SLAYER and good values A-game and you can easily have the time of your life. We've got good food here too - at least in Ontario.
Paul Bocuse - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:37:50 EST RDhpj8S7 No.4927436 Reply
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>convincing Americans to leave the country
what the FUCK is wrong with you
RebeccaBrullywater.rsc - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:45:01 EST 7JXWX72I No.4927438 Reply
Never post this again you fucking retarded ontaroid, having your province in this country is bad enough we don't need more crypto-burgers
Lt. Cmdr. Argyle - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:51:02 EST TepoEAyI No.4927439 Reply
Americans are honor-bound never to leave America. However, this does include America: Ice and LatinX America, the popular spinoff countries of this wildly popular nation, every weekday night at 9 on TBS.
Kirtaner Aster - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:24:48 EST Odh4Xtei No.4927462 Reply
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tf is this shit, can't I just say latinos or spanish or hispanic?
MalcomX unrelated.
Violet Churchgrab - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:31:10 EST Q19bBrKb No.4927466 Reply

not being willing to use gendered nouns when referring to a culture and language that relies on them is imperialist.

of course, maybe spanish colonialism was pretty bad for the first peoples too. ever heard of colombus? latin is a bullshit term because people are uncomfortable mentioning a mix of native and spanish. learn where somebody is from, learn what matters to them, let bulk generalities die.

malcolm >> martin
Livington Fuckwiggle - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 06:23:31 EST T4SpvBYn No.4927499 Reply
You don't even know who you're talking to or about. Calm down, goddam... Don't tell other posters not to post. If you have a problem with someone, smash that report button and a mod will get it.
Jenny Chummerridge - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:15:28 EST MC6L0aFo No.4927528 Reply
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We have some stupid people here in Canada who think their province could be a country of it's own. As if we wouldn't just annex them and forcefully make them rejoin confederation anyway if they tried to leave without a referendum. If they did go for the vote, it would fail due to the way population density works in this country. These people blame Ontario for how the country is going instead of blaming 20 solid years of horrible federal mismanagement of funds.
RebeccaBrullywater.rsc - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:25:07 EST 7JXWX72I No.4927553 Reply
I know you're from Ontario and you suggested Americans come here, what else do I need to know?

>they blame Ontario instead of 20 solid years of horrible federal mismanagement
>the feds are literally Ottawa
>50% of the cabinet are from the GTA
>tyranny of the majority smug white bread Southern Ontario has been dictating nationwide policy for 150 years as if the rest of the country is just what got attached to them by luck or fate or the grace of god
>my province's flood protection, meth crisis, and failing healthcare system are all dependent on the fickle attention span of the people who elected Ford brothers to lead them, twice

I don't think my province could be a country of its own but I think yours could and should so it can fucking get out of my life already, bitch ass small town mindset megacity peons thinking with your egos and clout, don't give a shit about a single issue except for climate change (but only when you're not the one who has to change anything) the traffic and their vacation homes in cabin country or Arizona. Patting yourselves on the back for being woke and forward compared to the burgers and then in the next breath trading horror stories of your time in bramladesh or jokes about mouth wash chugging indians without a single a hint of irony.

I spit on you Ontario, this entire country spits on you. The only thing that you have going for you are raw cockroach style population numbers.
Auguste Escoffier - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:28:12 EST +3St7PSX No.4927555 Reply
Jesus man... Every plant's got thorns in your world, huh? Every street's got pieces of broken glass, all the edges are sharp.
Johan Galle - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:27:07 EST JsAIeZQ4 No.4927567 Reply
Ive lived in BC, Ontario, Alberta and Newfoundland. They all have pros and cons and you are way off the mark and the us vs them shit is pathetic.
RebeccaBrullywater.rsc - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:32:36 EST 7JXWX72I No.4927572 Reply
oh yeah this us vs them shit is pathetic until you get to shit on a cowboy isn't it?
no I'm not
CedricShakewill.pst - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:53:12 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4927591 Reply
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Hey, I'm from Canada, eh

Maple syrup and cheese fries, eh
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:09:49 EST sTwClUnx No.4927594 Reply
I don't have this problem. It's really not hard. I go out of town for groceries at co-ops n stuff. All they have is organic stuff, no bleached vs, no artificial alternatives, no extra hormones, properly treated local animals for meat, etc...

Why even pay attention to those big brand nation wide chains? They just pump out large amounts of low quality trash.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:20:21 EST sTwClUnx No.4927597 Reply
Not chains I guess, but companies. Although chains piss me off too because they employee useless losers that know nothing about their departments and shitty products, and have equally retarded upper management usually.

Don't get me started on chain restaurants and fast food.
Dan Henderson - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:27:51 EST +s1jREfL No.4927600 Reply
I eat hotdog ramen and chicken wyngz®
Johan Galle - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:31:27 EST JsAIeZQ4 No.4927627 Reply
Lol it is an alberta fag. Please shut up. You guys complain constantly about everything and have some of the worst people ive met in canada
Johan Galle - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:35:39 EST JsAIeZQ4 No.4927629 Reply
Pretty sure he killed a homeless man? And he filmed him for no reason. Dudes a bitch
RebeccaBrullywater.rsc - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:37:33 EST 7JXWX72I No.4927630 Reply
So again, this us vs them bullshit is pathetic except when you do it against the people you don't like right?
I'm from fucking Winnipeg you chode, of the two of us you're the cunt who's actually lived in Alberta, so I don't even know where the fuck you're trying to go with this.
RebeccaBrullywater.rsc - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:59:27 EST 7JXWX72I No.4927639 Reply
and you're a dumbfuck hypocrite
typical ontario resident, clearly you've found your home
Johan Galle - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 16:08:36 EST JsAIeZQ4 No.4927642 Reply
Me no live their asshole. Winipeg sucks as well. Only greyhound station with a metal detector cause u retards chop each others heads off
RebeccaBrullywater.rsc - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 16:17:35 EST 7JXWX72I No.4927643 Reply
ok next talk about beef jerky and mouthwash in racially charged undertones if you're just going down the smack talk checklist mr "they all have pros and cons and you are way off the mark and the us vs them shit is pathetic"
Herman Smith - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:36:15 EST Chr3HTu6 No.4927659 Reply
>not wanting beef from the bovine pumped full of estrogen to make you more girly

The reason to pay attention to these things is because other people apparently buy all that trash, and their decisions effect us when they're in the emergency room for a heart attack.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 19:13:04 EST a3ExLAZG No.4927693 Reply
So the drive there is 40 minutes instead of 5. So what. That shit goes into your body. It kind of matters.
Hugh Fummlebedge - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 19:30:33 EST +s1jREfL No.4927703 Reply
I got bad news for you, it looks like all the trashcans with food are about a 40 minute drive from here.
Terry Gilliam - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:29:06 EST bHlYXDEK No.4927736 Reply
>"I care about the environment"
>wastes 40 minutes worth of gas every single grocery trip for years and years
Rebecca Gollydock - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:34:24 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4927738 Reply
>why bother doing anything, we're all just dying sacks of flesh and bones
Señor Chang - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:12:14 EST DyjsTrqI No.4927746 Reply
At least I don't live in britbong land where someone got charged as a sexual offender for touching someone's shoulder, or the stupid hate speech laws :v
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 01:57:40 EST sTwClUnx No.4927819 Reply
I didn't say i care about the environment. I implied that I care about myself.
Where did I say anything about the environment? Jesus fucking christ you dumb retard.
Terry Gilliam - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 03:01:19 EST bHlYXDEK No.4927840 Reply
>I care about myself so I'm going to expose my body to car exhaust pollution plus the risk of a fatal accident for 40 minutes straight while saying fuck you to the environment for the sake of the organic lobby's wallet
consumerism is a hell of a drug
Pierre Wynants - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 03:30:20 EST iYBT70ET No.4927853 Reply
Combine the one person who got charged as a sexual offender and everyone who has ever been charged with hate speech laws and you'll still have fewer than the number of people shot by American cops in a single year
Mestral - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 07:15:04 EST emwgxVly No.4927873 Reply
Uhhh you disagreed and are therefore whatever I want to say you are. And why are you using a tripcode? Do you think you're important or something? Jfc I've been on this website since the beginning and it's totally gone to shit.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 11:04:05 EST hi1capzp No.4927940 Reply
It's only once a week or once every two weeks, and literally outside of that, I walk 100% of the time. Also speaking long term, I'd go for an electric car. Although i really hate what the use of cars has done to the country's layout. I didn't ask for the world to keep manufacturing this shit. And what's bad about directing my money towards local businesses that make higher quality products?

Anyway why are you so obsessed with making incorrect assumptions and then going on about them? You're acting like a huge faggot.

I'm using a trip because I'm GAY. But not as gay as randomly adding how long I've been using this website into the conversation.
Arachnaman - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:07:46 EST qgbqub8K No.4927981 Reply
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Bruh. You're just too lazy to look for the good shit. This is oatmeal I get even tho I honestly don't eat oatmeal much.

Do a little bit more searching. Take responsibility. Vote with your dollar. Support your local agriculture.

t. someone who works on a small organic farm in the US
Troisgros family - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:15:52 EST Q7G8h1M0 No.4927988 Reply
That oatmeal is really good.

They put so much damn sugar in it though, it really doesn't need it.
Wilhelm Beer - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:58:01 EST yUwOsz8/ No.4928055 Reply
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I eat American oatmeal pretty much every day.

Ingredients? 100% cold steel rolled oats.

American steel.
Tadashi Nakajima - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 01:04:34 EST HKNlG3Ai No.4928187 Reply
i only eat oats that have been decimated to pieces by the sonic forces of a hyper-amplified fart machine
NigelChumblewat.hex - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:28:55 EST VnRMU9Ji No.4931372 Reply
In the US we also have old fashioned oats, which are what everyone but the very stupid eats as far as oats go. Instant oats are for children.

Literally have some delicious organic apple, cinnamon and brown sugar oats waiting for me in the fridge right now.

The US is a huge country. There are many different types of people in it.
Toshiro Kandagawa - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:59:07 EST cVA+At24 No.4931384 Reply
wow what a surprise that the u.s. is trying to kill it's own citizens, what else is new?
Jago - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:02:18 EST Ad2fMt4S No.4931393 Reply
Every one else in this thread except this poster is complete retarded.

Next 420chan is gonna start selling me on chakra re aligning crystals and shit.

You have a very poor scientific literacy OP if you cant find food to suit your pussy ass diet.
I bet you probably even smoke ciggarates while bitching about GMOs to peoples faces.
Chen Kenmin - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 12:05:42 EST RKOZfxbo No.4931412 Reply
Literally the only food you should eat is food with dna from the plant/animal/fungi/bacteria you are eating. Everything else can be called "chemical slop" pretty easily.
Zidane Tribal - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 14:43:24 EST SyJ41SU5 No.4931461 Reply
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>industrial pollutants are same thing as table salt
>if you smoke cigarettes you should have no problem with arsenic in your tap water and have flames shoot out your sink from fracking
>if you drink beer you should have no problem drinking PCBs and industrial runoff
>if you smoke weed you should have no problem inhaling phosgene
>you take aspirin why not take oxycontin before work everyday they both painkillers is it all just chemicals anyway
Netjester !AI.skYnEt - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 14:43:27 EST iLikEToleARn No.4931462 Reply
I kinda wanna see her, especially if weed isn't legal where you can think once in a first blood match in hammerstein ballroom.
Corporal F Hawkins - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 14:45:40 EST +s1jREfL No.4931465 Reply
So salt has DNA?

Maybe the salty crust on your goat's back end has some DNA but if you ate it that would be self cannibalism.
Benjamin Sisko - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:28:33 EST QmBs14Cb No.4931478 Reply
salt isn't a food, it's hardly even a seasoning. most powdered seasonings are based on plants, salt is an alkaline metal bonded to a deadly poison.
Corporal F Hawkins - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:37:52 EST +s1jREfL No.4931484 Reply
>Food:any nutritious substance that people or animals eat or drink or that plants absorb in order to maintain life and growth.

It is a food by definition. Humans aren't the only animals that like salt, that's why hunters use salt licks and mountain goats climb the sides of dams. Saying, "only consume thing with DNA from thing" is a pretty stupid blanket statement that is impractical, unhealthy and maybe impossible. Are you going to get your iodine from shrimp? Shitty, waste eating water bugs swimming in pools of antibiotics because it's easier than scraping the shit off the side of the farm tanks?
Sherri Martel - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:57:42 EST 7JXWX72I No.4931494 Reply
you know iodine doesn't come from salt right, it's an additive, the government mandated putting it in there during one of the world wars the same way they flouridate water, it helped eradicate one of those old timey diseases that used to haunt children, rickets I think? idk

people used to have to get it from kelp or sea brine

but also yeah people would die without salt, literally every complex life form on earth would, nervous systems are based around it
it's just that people need both, and iodine is super rare, so the UN is like put it in your salt people will eat all they need it'll stop [quick google search] "goiters" and "retardation"
Benjamin Sisko - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:58:02 EST QmBs14Cb No.4931495 Reply
sure, salt by definition is a nutrient. but folic acid and potassium and all that shit are also nutrients, that are supposed to be absorbed by the body when you eat the corresponding food. its like calling broth a meal on par with chili. but that doesn't even do it justice because broth has caloric value and salt doesn't. also iodine is a modern salt additive
Carl Grimes - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:05:58 EST cxpilczL No.4931498 Reply

lmao. look at this guy with his C in highschool chemistry level knowledge. is water just a gas bonded to a gas?
Benjamin Sisko - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:35:27 EST QmBs14Cb No.4931512 Reply
are you lmaoing? really? a molecule is pretty damn different than an organelle so i don't get the joke
Larry Laffer - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 18:33:48 EST 7FeCSdFv No.4931544 Reply
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I think it's really important to just forget about the quality of your food and try to get as many food groups on a plate as possible. Thus:
Everything Hashbrowns from Denny's

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