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- Sat, 20 Jun 2020 20:43:37 EST UFfnPxqA No.5017134
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Anyone else agree that this film and its sequel are works of fine art? What else is in the category?
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Dan Hardy - Sat, 20 Jun 2020 21:55:57 EST rUVNo0hU No.5017160 Reply
>>5017134
trainspotting is alrigh, i guess. i thought it was a lot cooler when i was 17 though
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Fabricio Werdum - Sat, 20 Jun 2020 22:39:14 EST hT4Vxm29 No.5017174 Reply
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The first was a classic. Who can watch that movie as an addict and not appreciate the takes on some of the darker scenes and plot points, and the nonchalance about how the whole thing is ex’s it’s.
Just the attitude of it all spoke to the young careless addict in me in some ways that I really thought were amusing or just too close to home, but that’s part of it too, it’s not a pretty thing, and I’m glad that the story openly showcases some of the nastier behavior unrepentantly, because it be like that sometimes,

The second was a total disaster. I feel like the only thing that pushed that movie into production on a drive to make an entire film based on cult movie nostalgia from the first. Around every single turn in the movie they’re throwing some shit from the previous movie into your face like “hurr hurr remember the good movie about this same story, that was awesome right!”.
It was good for a chuckle or two, like the underage girl becoming a big lawyer and that sort of thing, but to me one of the biggest winning things about the original, was the open ending. We had no idea what was to become of them, and that’s very much how addiction is, so I found that whole ending symbolic and powerful in its own right as a sort of metaphor for the life and thinking of an addict, and of the fact that the life of an addict is itself very open ended and you often don’t get the sort of closure or happy ending or certainty of the future that you’d like.
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Jin Kazama - Sat, 20 Jun 2020 22:44:44 EST HieqbbyR No.5017175 Reply
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Sonny they said two homosexuals in the bank on TV, did you hear what they said? I'm not a homosexual, you tell them to get that right. It's going out on the TV!
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Ruin Maniac Henry - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 00:05:48 EST x1yrPuLZ No.5017198 Reply
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well i'm scottish and ended up giving the same drug to so many people that he gets in the hospital when ODing
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Georges Blanc - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 00:40:28 EST HFHUv8bS No.5017205 Reply
>>5017160

I definitely found it more interesting the first time I watched it several years back, but watching it again several months back wasn't so great. I didn't even know the sequel was out yet, but I knew it was in the works. Figures it would be crap compared to the first. It's hard for a sequel to be so good when it has so much to live up to in its predecessor. I also never lived a life like in the movie, so I don't have a lot a lot to compare it to. Cult classics should never have sequels.

Should they make a new pulp fiction? Or SLC punk? It can't live up. It would have to be so incredibly novel and profound, but even then it would be railed as trying too much. I'm not sure how you could do it. Does anybody have any examples of cult classic sequels not sucking?
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Kimono Girl Phineas - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 07:44:17 EST 9XNpb5sT No.5017287 Reply
The sequel to Trainspotting is fucking shit.
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JarvisBogglefick.wri - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 08:25:50 EST nJkrco7e No.5017292 Reply
the first is best and I understand people getting upset about the sequel detracting from it as a gestalt thing but T2 is art in its own way and couldn't exist without the first. welsh was writing semi-autobiographically so it's beautiful to revisit the characters and see how their lives have developed; they're semi-real people even if they no longer resemble the real people whose lives they were once based on they've lived on authentically in the author's head
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Sean Sherk - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 08:38:21 EST 8j8l87GR No.5017298 Reply
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>>5017205
would bladerunner count? its not quite on the level of pulp fiction though.

br2049 was great, arguably better.
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Sophie Poggleshaw - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 10:30:53 EST jFMQXDRB No.5017321 Reply
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>>5017216
I think that is a pretty good movie that highlights the grittier side of addiction in a real way. It isn't just the whole do dope and die story that I think makes a lot of people doubt that. I think it really shows how low you can go while slowly killing yourself. People don't think it be like it is but it do. I never saw the sequel cos I heard it was doodie

I think my favorite movie is American Psycho. I know it is almost a trope on image boards much like Fight Club but, I enjoy how it can take a darker look at the hidden society of the ultra-rich.
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Lil' Timmy Bongsworth - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 10:58:46 EST Na2FvZ9q No.5017327 Reply
>>5017321
you finally made a post without trolling, congrats

read the book american psycho, i know its a trope but it does what the movie does much better. christian bale is the only part of that movie that made it good.
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Sophie Poggleshaw - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 12:34:32 EST jFMQXDRB No.5017359 Reply
>>5017327
Having a contrary opinion isnt trolling.

I like the book I think it is better too. I get a way better feel for how insane Bateman is but what I like about the movie is that Patrick actually seems like he could be a real guy. The book is just full of impossible scenarios that must be fantasies and portray Bateman not as much as a liar but delusional and insecure. I dont think a guy like that could make it through his day let alone function at a high level. The movie Patrick actually just seems like a violent narcissist who is eventually driven mad by paranoia of getting caught. Yes it is fiction at heart but the novel is next level crazy
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Nidia - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 12:48:13 EST D9u3LG88 No.5017370 Reply
My favorite movies are Memento and Taxi Driver therefore those are the greatest movies
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Edward Barnard - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 15:30:47 EST 9FOhb4dD No.5017404 Reply
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There is this movie called Belgica, i think it would have been a better sequel to trainspotting.

its about two brothers who own a bar and go through kind of same situations. Soulwax made the musical part so its good to go.
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Vosk - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 15:31:53 EST E8VKAmUb No.5017405 Reply
>>5017160
This. Also:
READ THE FUCKING BOOK ITS WAY BETTER THAN THE MOVIE OMG GUIZZZZ
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Samuel Sagglefotch - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 17:49:30 EST QmqLWc1F No.5017451 Reply
Requiem for a Dream. Not accurate about drugs. Watched first time while high. Not so traumatic but, I decide "oh let us find book I wonder what authentic English version look like". You seen such thing? Fuck! Author was not fluent with English at all. Grammar does not exist. No structure to sentences. It make no sense. How they manage it into movie even? Book was awful would not recommend.
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Prudence Goat - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 17:55:05 EST dVs3HgW4 No.5017459 Reply
>>5017174
Agree, T1 was very good, T2 not so much.
>>5017298
I prefer original blade runner to the new one. Where was the haunting music? Why did none of the characters come anywhere rutger hauer for performance or charisma?
>>5017370
+1 for Taxi Driver, de niro's portrayal as a man gone awol is great
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Clown Walter - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 19:09:10 EST 5CGaoPPV No.5017493 Reply
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>works of fine art
Not at all, at most, this film as well as popular shit like Tarantino or the Cohen brothers, is a blend between hollywood and some classic film theory. It's a decent style, way better than blockbuster, sausage factory-like movies and it's popular with people who's starting to educate themselves on filmmaking, or rather the fanboyism and esoterism behind films because I've never talked with a cinephile who's into technicalities like art direction, photography direction, acting theory of even the script. Like that typical shithead on his first day of film school who believes he's better than anyone because he read the whole tvtropes site so he's a script master but he doesn't even finish his first year because he sucks at art and can't think anything more complex than his favorite tv series.

Just watch The Man with the Movie Camera, then Battleship Potemkin and call it a life, there's no need to watch anything else. If anybody asks you about films just tell them to go watch both movies and come back.
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Richard Leblanc - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 20:06:01 EST eOP+kd50 No.5017517 Reply
I want to bath in movies with works in it like fine art. Ferris Buller could take a toke and get into some life-altering art.
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Eugene Crublinghood - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:56:13 EST i0lwvjHm No.5017550 Reply
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>>5017493
Bean: The Ultimate Disaster Movie was a masterpiece. You can shove all your pretentious scholarly bullshit right up your ass, man!
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Fanny Covingware - Sun, 21 Jun 2020 22:04:49 EST PErI9j88 No.5017553 Reply
>>5017493
I'm easily this pretentious when it comes to music, but I'm trying to get into movies so I can posture better and because I feel like a retard not getting all the pop culture references, I usually never watched them because I couldn't pay attention but now I'm discovering the magic of pausing it for a few minutes every now and then, what films should I watch so I don't look like a knuckle-dragging troglodyte? my favorite right now is probably either a scanner darkly or the last crusade
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Kai Opaka - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 00:53:47 EST jFMQXDRB No.5017632 Reply
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>>5017469
Ohohoho HILARIOUS! What a great poster possibly best poster of all time
>>5017493
lol
>>5017553
Dude from my understanding movie direction is just a bunch of memes that directors agreed were good one day. I think its more important to just enjoy shit and not feel bad about yourself for it not being as cool as what the other kids say. Or you're trolling that guy ayyyyy lmao(who also might be a troll)
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The Vault Dweller - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 01:26:05 EST HKNlG3Ai No.5017638 Reply
lawrence of arabia
bladerunner
the color of pomegranates
eraserhead

eh i thought i'd contribute
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PhineasShakeworth.fla - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 06:11:41 EST gFaEEdnY No.5017677 Reply
The book is brilliant too, and I love it because it's something with a bit of edge that people know about Scotland for.
Whiskey is sort of cool, but I'm not a fan so I'm not really too fussed.
The Proclaimers is also kinda good chat but like, they aren't exactly cool, and are most likely on their way out.

Like the other person said though, it was a trillion times cooler when I was 17. I'm not gonna re-watch it again in a hurry though, it'd make me miss my home too much. I had a huge poster just like the picture OP posted but it had the cast and crew on it. I used to write the numbers of my drug dealers around Renton.

Fun fact though!

My dad was on the board of one of the theatres that showed the play, before it was a movie. Irvine Welsh invited the "real" begbie along to the premier, my dad met him and shook his hand but he left the performance half way through.

I also saw a theatre adaptation of it a few years ago in Falkirk, my brother brought me a ticket. After the show we walked to the train station and saw some dude shooting up in an alley on the way...

In terms of greatest movies, I watched "Heavy Metal" when I was 18 and maybe one of the highest I'd ever been in my life after eating a load of hash. I reckon that was probably my greatest cinematic experience. Is "Heavy Metal" the best movie of all time? Absolutely not, but it's certainly the one that I enjoyed the most at that specific time.
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Thrax - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 07:57:12 EST CqqtKQoj No.5017699 Reply
>>5017469
It's so convenient for assholes like you to come into these places with these half-baked throwaway personalities that you hide behind. We get bored immediately, you get bored eventually, but in your case, you can just make up another stupid character to annoy people with.
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Richard Leblanc - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 08:24:42 EST eOP+kd50 No.5017702 Reply
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When I went through an atom, clouds, then it looked like some golden blade runner shape.
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Jason Penopolis - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:12:30 EST Rp7PbGv5 No.5017973 Reply
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>>5017134
I'm a junkie (decade+ club) and didn't like Trainspotting, sorry.
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Smirky McFlash - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:25:51 EST +4+6d5AT No.5017978 Reply
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I watched Apocalypse Now for the first time the other night (I think it was the Redux version, not 100% sure) and goddamn is it a nearly perfect film. Can't remember the last time a movie gripped my attention to such an extent; truly fascinating.
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Fanny Covingware - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:31:16 EST PErI9j88 No.5017983 Reply
>>5017632
I don't have any problems admitting that my two favorite films were major blockbusters or that I think shit like Solaris and La Planète sauvage are massively overrated by virtue of being foreign, despite both being good movies (I call them that specifically to piss off the kind of person who says they're into films). But clearly the theory behind art is not "just memes" and on things I'm actually qualified to speak on it pisses me off no end when people say shit like that stuff like fluxus, danger music, 4'33", noise music, etc. is somehow just trolling people and that "post-modern" (an almost useless term in all domains) art in general "isn't art"
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EdwardCembledale.jpg - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:34:35 EST ij1++TUy No.5017985 Reply
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Bloodsport

Text text text. Maybe fix the anti spam filter, Kirt.
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Robert Rodriguez - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:48:40 EST 3oHqak2o No.5017990 Reply
>>5017985
Damn I can hear Jeremy Clarkson calling that thing a lady's razor already
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Turok - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:52:43 EST EtzPxA+M No.5017991 Reply
WE HAVE A WHOLE BOARD FOR THIS YOU FAGGOTS
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Kai Opaka - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:56:33 EST jFMQXDRB No.5017992 Reply
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>>5017983
meme
/mēm/
noun
an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.

So yeah film theory is just memes. That's cool man I'm glad you're passionate just couldn't tell that you were trolling and didn't want you to sound so fucking sad.
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Robert Rodriguez - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 18:02:50 EST 3oHqak2o No.5017994 Reply
>>5017991
I'm watching a documentary about custom van owners rn, what are you peepin
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Fanny Covingware - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 19:22:28 EST PErI9j88 No.5018024 Reply
>>5017995
He did one where it was him plucking on a cactus and I think he was one of the people who worked on pushing the limits of tempo, i cant remember if he was involved in that art project where theres an organ that plays a note every hundred years or w/e. I dunno I'm not particularly a fan of his, i'm more into the likes of Steve Reich and Brian Eno when it comes to contemporary composers

Bizarre way to gatekeep. I was using a popular example. I don't mong out to danger music either, except maybe Hanatarash. I can appreciate all thoughtfully made art but pretty much only lisren to rock on a regular basis, usually no wave, post-punk, and prog
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Lt. JG Nog - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 20:46:01 EST HKNlG3Ai No.5018042 Reply
>>5017995
I like that one where he's just eating a bag of crisps in a dimly lit auditorium alone.
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James McCloud - Mon, 22 Jun 2020 22:15:13 EST NR5KlchB No.5018089 Reply
Ever see Schindler's List? It's like The Last of Us Part 2 but for movies.
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CharlesChenkintatch.smd - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 02:18:43 EST eOP+kd50 No.5018140 Reply
I still think The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus. It has connotations in it I've never seen another movie.
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James Sonderford - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 17:49:04 EST vDf+CLGz No.5018428 Reply
What was the name of the movie with the french guy in the foreign legion who does a cool little dance at the end of the movie after committing suicide?
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Zoila Frausto - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 17:57:50 EST I594I501 No.5018433 Reply
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Class of Nukem High
Toxic Avenger
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William Fanson - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 19:18:36 EST PErI9j88 No.5018478 Reply
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this is a criminally overlooked postmodern masterpiece, a synthesis of 200 years of art and a testament to man's progress
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Mamed Khalidov - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:35:57 EST HieqbbyR No.5019347 Reply
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>>5018237
the tv show that the cohen brothers got the games of thrones guy to write for them is top notch. the writer really got the cohen brothers thing right except that the cohen brothers actively try not to be cohesive.

season 2 about the death of the family business during the carter administration is super prophetic of season 3 about international crime oligarchs and it's going to be the bitch's tits to see the next one.

steve buscemi he has a very striking appearance and was extremely well cast
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CedricPisslewadging.uue - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:40:47 EST rrVy7DWj No.5019352 Reply
>>5019347
The jacket shes wearing is probably ~$1000. So is his if it’s real leather

Rich ass characters
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Mamed Khalidov - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:43:01 EST HieqbbyR No.5019354 Reply
>>5019352
one's a hitman and the other's a golddigger who got her male wife killed because she couldn't stop golddigging
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Dejar - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:45:13 EST SjFb79Jv No.5019355 Reply
>>5017134
>Anyone else agree that this film and its sequel are works of fine art?

no
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OliverHaddlelut.pps - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:48:35 EST k5++aRKa No.5019357 Reply
I liked the first movie, I think its good, but I dont know about one of the greatest.

I dont really remember the second movie too well, I was drunk and on phenibut getting my ass pounded by a cute guy. I remember hearing a bunch of Young Fathers songs in it, but that's it.
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HeddaHushdut.pot - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:50:24 EST i0lwvjHm No.5019358 Reply
>>5018478
Oh my god, yes it is. The Muppet Treasure Island was also pretty great. Muppet Wizard Of Oz was entertaining, but certainly not masterpiece.
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Barry Cockethroat - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:51:54 EST C+hV/3Dn No.5019360 Reply
>>5017174
I loved T1 and hated 2 the first time around but on a second viewing it grew on me somewhat along the line of what
>>5017292 says.


>>5017205
unfortunately they did do a sequel to SLC Punk and it's awful. much worse than trainspotting 2.
there's nothing like that first time around when all the favorite characters are young and beautiful. Renton was gorgeous even climbing out of a toilet fill of shite. in the sequels it's a bit sad.
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Rose Gray - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 12:51:09 EST XAcn6OVL No.5019381 Reply
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>>5019360
Whenever lightning gets caught in a bottle, nobody wants to see a mockery made of it later on down the road just for money’s sake.

I think the reason the sequels often suck has also got a lot to do with a sense of authenticity. When you make a movie at a certain time and place in society and the world, from within it, then you are likely to capture more of an authentic feel for the situation rather than if it’s just some totally uninvolved hollywood execs who just went to create a movie that has a good chance of paying off no matter how poor it actually is asa film.
The works that really capture little pieces of society are just awesome to see, but I don’t really care to see later or outside depictions of it nearly as much, just because it is so much harder to bring back all the little details from “the good ole days” even if we try, rather than being saturated with it and just putting it on display as it exists from fresh experiences.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Mamed Khalidov - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 18:27:06 EST HieqbbyR No.5019515 Reply
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has anyone ever seen drugstore cowboy since that's your thing or do we only enjoy mediocre movies
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Karl Jansky - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 18:30:30 EST PErI9j88 No.5019519 Reply
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>>5019515
I do like it more than Trainspotting. And I seem to be one of the only people on earth who thought Spun was good too. I thought Requiem for a Dream was decent but way too preachy and didactic.

But they all need to make way for what is actually the best drug movie.
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Merlin - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 19:57:57 EST Rp7PbGv5 No.5019567 Reply
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>>5019563
IDK, it had some decent music, some fun scenes, and some relatable scenes. I think we've all sniffed a ton of amphetamine before going to a job interview, right? I sure have... And that feel when you tell a judge "I made mistakes and never want to use heroin again" only to immediately go out and try scoring lol, very relatable.
But it just didn't entertain me for some reason and felt pretty boring at times. A lot of the drug stuff was over the top (I get it, how does one portray the terror of opiate withdrawals?), but mostly I just remember being pretty bored watching it and somewhat offended by how it portrayed /opi/ use as a one-way ticket to becoming a horrible person. It's been at least 5 years though since I've seen it and I never saw the sequel.
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Hans McKiffer - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 20:12:34 EST 7Ke2v7O7 No.5019574 Reply
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>>5019519
To say nothing of Fear & Loathing? I mean I'll go ahead and be THAT guy, the book was better. But still.
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Miles Edgeworth - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 21:33:21 EST rCh0tnXd No.5019624 Reply
the only good movies are little miss sunshine, I am legend, the Bourne trilogy and Ocean's 11.
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Francis Dogfart - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 22:18:12 EST PErI9j88 No.5019637 Reply
>>5019633
people just categorically don't believe me when I say that's my favorite Kubrick movie

i will admit that it does always make me chuckle when the narrator says "to make a long story short..." two hours in with one to go, but 3 hours is very tenable and it's a really good movie with little dead time, people act like it's Gods and Generals
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CedricGettinghall.lit - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 23:00:42 EST btmoOcBO No.5019648 Reply
>>5019637
it's an amazing film, you have good taste. I don't understand why it's not more widely recognized. I wish there were more films like that. It feels reductive, but I would call it "adventure" in the vein of Baron Munchausen and Princess Bride. But it takes itself more seriously than either of those, but not to a dry extreme.
It's just a solid fucking film, I don't know. I'm going to watch it again right now.
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Drew Gulak - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 13:17:35 EST ZLi0zWLw No.5020232 Reply
Part of why Barry L is so well made is because Kubrick overexerted himself making his aborted Napoleon movie and used the extraordinary research he compiled to make a movie about life in the reign of King George III
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Heath Herring - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 13:28:50 EST ajpi4wqQ No.5020234 Reply
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WilliamGillersun.xif - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:43:55 EST UFfnPxqA No.5021597 Reply
>>5019624
I disagree that those are the only good movies, but I agree that I am Legend was an amazing film. Tugs at the ol' heart-strings
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Rick Bayless - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:47:38 EST eOP+kd50 No.5021617 Reply
eh, Kubrick, probably some Schooln director. Interstellar was alright, though not as great as 2001. IMDB The 25 Best Drug Movies of All Time, eh, if we put our minds to it I'm sure we would be up there.
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Tim Kennedy - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 01:10:49 EST /kLrp0Bu No.5021620 Reply
i went through this whole thread and not ONE mention of Who Framed Roger Rabbit
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Rick Bayless - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 01:18:12 EST eOP+kd50 No.5021621 Reply
>>5021620
I was really afraid they could dissolve them like acid and didn't want to watch it again. Same with loads of other movies don't go back if it's too edgy.
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Edgar Wright - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:36:58 EST UPExQo/K No.5023229 Reply
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