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- Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:14:34 EST W6drIyrn No.5020907
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I know we're supposed to not care because leddit is cringe or whatever but I feel like the nose of censorship is tightening on the internet. Whose to say that the chans aren't next?
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Polly Dribblehine - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:16:19 EST W01s8gt/ No.5020908 Reply
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Good. Let chan-culture die.

It's full of retarded underage autists and racist boomers anyway.
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Subcommander N'Vek - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:16:51 EST vDf+CLGz No.5020909 Reply
>>5020907
Who fucking cares. Rent is due on wednesday and evictions are about to start. Anyone who matters in this world could give a fuck about your spectrum disorder or your free speech on the internet.
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Kiyotsugu Hirayama - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:26:32 EST SjFb79Jv No.5020914 Reply
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shut it all down. its empowered too much lunacy, bitchery and fuckery.
A whole radically subjective idea of truth has become the norm. Nothing good has come of it. Burn it clean. it empowered too much ignorance and badness.
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Medium Isabella - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:31:33 EST /V4Dq25i No.5020915 Reply
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>>5020907
Comparing a bunch of small differing sites sharing the same format to a huge commercial site doesn't make that much sense really. Big commercial site had to pull NSFW content because of threat of losing revenue, that's not really anybody "coming for them", that's a site having to realign their filthy clogged chakras because of not having the manpower to keep their content in check without amputation.
And didn't at least one or two chans already get nuked because of political manifestos being posted before massacres? Your implied event already happened. There is no all-encompassing chan.org overlord site that hosts all subchans. We're self contained small islands.
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:42:09 EST W6drIyrn No.5020918 Reply
>>5020909
>you can't care about two things at once

maybe it's you who has the 'tism?
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:46:32 EST W6drIyrn No.5020920 Reply
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>>5020914
>defending corporations and corporate control of discussion on the internet because your feeling were hurt when some sperg anime guy called you the n-word

libs are such bootlicking cowards
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:50:13 EST W6drIyrn No.5020923 Reply
>>5020915
maybe your right, but corporate neoliberal control over the internet has definitely increased over the years.

you would think a drugs based chan would be more sensitive/aware to precedents against freedom but what do I know.
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Polly Dribblehine - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:51:46 EST W01s8gt/ No.5020924 Reply
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>>5020918
>>5020920
Alright, that's enough enthousiasm from you. Time to eat some Hammer Smashed Face, you fucking nazi immigrant faggot.
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:58:12 EST W6drIyrn No.5020926 Reply
>>5020924
kid I've been on 420chan on and off since like 2007. you type like an angry sperg pimp.
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:59:27 EST W6drIyrn No.5020927 Reply
>>5020924
also I'm not a nazi I'm an anarchist jew form north africa lmao
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Subcommander N'Vek - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:06:56 EST vDf+CLGz No.5020933 Reply
>>5020926
what was life like back then? people around kirt's age were graduating high school
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Smokimus Maximus - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:14:32 EST PErI9j88 No.5020936 Reply
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>DAE TOS=1984

>>5020920
censorship is when you don't give a platform to hate speech (which we don't either what with /pol/ having been deleted for the exact same reason circlejerk nuked these subs and rule 12 having been in place and (sporadically) enforced for years now and dozens of slurs and right-wing buzzwords being filtered to make discussion of the topics by outsiders harder)

>>5020918
ah but you're clearly devoting a lot of effort to giving a shit about a specific kind of "censorship" while the world is literally ending and we're the closest we've ever been to global societal collapse that we've ever been in the history of mankind

>>5020920
>defending corporations

In no way is defending this specific kind of action a defense of corporations as a concept or the majority of the actions by any specific corporation. Faux-wokeness done as cynical marketing tactics (which is what all of this is, despite the fact that I have no doubt the majority of the people on the ground who are responsible for this sort of thing genuinely think are purely doing good and in some respects are) does not automatically negate the things they pretend give a shit about or make them bad things.

Corporations adopting the aesthetics of social justice like throwing on BLM and pride shit and saying "hey maybe don't use the N-word on our platform" is actually a sign that the majority approve of such actions because if they didn't it would make them less money and they wouldn't do it. Corporate policy can actually be a decent litmus for where society stands on social issues because AGAIN: if it did not make them more money they would not do it they do not care about a single other thing in the entire world

>and corporate control of discussion

Again a specific kind of discussion which should be curtailed in some way no matter what organizational structure society is in. Again because you can't tolerate intolerance to have a free society that endures against the constant threat of people who want to destroy it and subjugate certain people. This is 101 shit.

>>5020923
>corporate neoliberal control over the internet has definitely increased over the years.

Yes obviously. In most ways this is a terrible thing, in this particular way it is not.

>you would think a drugs based chan would be more sensitive/aware to precedents against freedom

Freedom to do what? There are objectively freedoms that are more immediately important and integral to surviving and thriving in the world than freeze peach. You're fighting a culture war issue here, not one solely against corporations. Saying that is disingenuous because I think if you actually gave a shit about our impending doom you would realize this specific thing does not matter.
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Cue Ball Molly - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:16:10 EST jFMQXDRB No.5020940 Reply
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>>5020933
You merely adopted anonymity. I was born in it, molded by it. I did not have a geocities until I was I already a man, by then it was nothing to me but zines.
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:17:14 EST W6drIyrn No.5020941 Reply
>>5020933
I was like 12 back then. the color scheme was different and it was basically a more chill and less racist 4chan. But that is to be expected from a site based in stoner culture.
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Simon Cheshire - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:24:09 EST ZOL0E9tL No.5020945 Reply
>>5020907
Who cares if they are? There has never been a technical or legal barrier to online communication that I have come across that I couldn't circumvent. Remember where you are. Not everyone here is a toiletposter, the original folks who built these kinds of websites have historically been able to overcome obstacles that are way higher than anything the idiots in this modern world could invent. Fuck the modern internet, censor everything, let all of these normie assholes fuck off to other pastimes.
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:25:24 EST W6drIyrn No.5020946 Reply
>>5020936
I'm inclined to agree with you generally speaking, culture war shit IS stupid. But I still think this sets a dangerous precedent.
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Simon Cheshire - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:27:28 EST ZOL0E9tL No.5020948 Reply
>>5020946
The precedent it sets is that you can't give just anyone the ability to communicate with anyone for any reason, anonymously, and with no accountability for what happens after. There need to be rules. Normal folks don't need the full-bore internet anyway, I used to tell people to stay on AOL if they wanted a curated experience. Bring those days back for goodness sake.
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Medium Isabella - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:33:51 EST /V4Dq25i No.5020952 Reply
>>5020923
>drugs based chan would be more sensitive/aware to precedents against freedom
...why though? The freedom to do drugs is a pragmatic and self imposed one, by not being a dumb fuck with how you go about it. Drug freedom isn't getting to post whatever you want on somebody elses server they're legally responsible for hosting.
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Subcommander N'Vek - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 17:48:05 EST vDf+CLGz No.5020958 Reply
>>5020953
back back back to to to to the to the to the to future the future future was released in 1985
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Barnaby Clommleshit - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 18:28:34 EST W6drIyrn No.5020968 Reply
>>5020948
>The precedent it sets is that you can't give just anyone the ability to communicate with anyone for any reason, anonymously, and with no accountability for what happens after. There need to be rules.

except the subs that got banned weren't all nazi hate group or pedophile shit. Some of them were comedy subs that were banned for being politically incorrect.
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Kilik - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 18:56:53 EST ROpq0DAd No.5020975 Reply
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>>5020907
>we're supposed to not care because leddit is cringe or whatever
leddit is a circlejerk for pedophiles, bored IT nerds, teenage nazis and pentagon spooks.

So yeah, "cringe" is one way to put it.
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RebeccaClosslefet.jar - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:07:53 EST oYt5vPT7 No.5020978 Reply
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>>5020907
>I can't say jolly african-american on circlejerk, this is basically Farenheit 451
It feels like most of the recent major "censorship" events have just been cracking down on /pol/shit and actual hate speech circlejerks on huge, corporate, normalfag-centric websites. Obviously I'm still sussed out by the direction the internet in general has been going, but I don't think this specifically is concerning to anyone besides /pol/tards who like jerking off on other websites and the occassional real racist. I don't think we're at much of a risk.

You can't really compare the userbase and moderation of circlejerk or Tumblr to most imageboards. 420chan has the most active moderation/banning out of most of the imageboards I go on, and even here you have to be a pretty flagrant faggot before you get hit. Unless someone posts a manifesto on an imageboard and murks somebody IRL, we'll never see a site get cracked as hard as 8chan did again.
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Ichigo Kurosaki - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 22:40:07 EST JAabUWi9 No.5021052 Reply
*chans won't die because the letter agencies won't let go of their honeypots, simple as. Killing the future would result in all the prospective little terrorists scattering across harder-to-track methods to spew their manifestos on. 4chan is an easy and convenient to corral extremists online. Skeletonchan 'died' (not really lol) because it was competition to the future's near-virtual monopoly on right-wing nuttery. Putting it in line was merely pragmatism, an encouragement to all the freaks to stay on the right medium of controlled opposition.
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Marco Pierre White - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 23:00:56 EST 0Z5YcRzz No.5021054 Reply
>>5020968
Now that's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that even if you're joking, it's still really vile. You've crossed the line from politically incorrect to deliberately anti-social, so get banned.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 23:52:55 EST PErI9j88 No.5021074 Reply
>>5020977
the show is fine and sporadically entertaining but the sub had been invite only for like a year because MDEfags kept coming over and malding about crime rates and chicks with dicks, it wasn't even offensive they were offensively unfunny because they were so made, legitimately saw people unironically posting nordic gamer memes

i do not give a shit about subcirclejerk drama and the admins saying "hey be nice to each other maybe" tho so any sub getting deleted and people getting mad is funny to me, i'm glad cth got taken down just as much, they were really an embarrassment to the left because they didn't catch the irony of being "ugghh can we PLEASE not say guys?" types while posting shit about beheading Jeff Bezos, it made us looking like seething pussies
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Lt. Ro Laren - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 00:09:49 EST PErI9j88 No.5021078 Reply
>>5021077
Conflating two separate issues. I already said that it was a PR move. Doesn't mean I give a shit. And again, the invisible hand of the free market is doing this because most people want to post on a site with out you people.

You should check out Voat, you'd love it there!
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Interviewer Fanny - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 00:37:52 EST soCWVpkO No.5021084 Reply
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You think maybe Kirt got rid of the porn boards to make this site more ad friendly?
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Davey Richards - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 00:49:00 EST S0DgWZT+ No.5021087 Reply
Rub a sharpie on your face and pull a squirt gun on a cop.
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Edwin Salpeter - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 02:48:11 EST /V4Dq25i No.5021114 Reply
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>>5021113
Who said anything about it being a black one?
Could make it a gayface
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CorneliusDrerryham.clp - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 02:59:14 EST Sw4EF+pD No.5021116 Reply
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>>5021113
Good thing white face isn't racist or your mom would have to stop letting frat boys shoot their jizums at her face point blank and would have to get loads on her titties that are so saggy she runs in the room to titty fuck every one, falls down and those floppers just keep running in to give them all fjs, which is what we call foot jobs in des moins, michigan.
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Medium Henry - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 03:18:22 EST 3Cr0F64A No.5021118 Reply
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>>5020920

libs are bootlicking cowards

though i don't think you mean it the way i mean it

pic related, you should drink your own piss
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Zits - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 04:16:37 EST nJkrco7e No.5021128 Reply
>>5020945
>There has never been a technical or legal barrier to online communication that I have come across that I couldn't circumvent.
Fat lot of good that is if a large part of the people you want to communicate with can't also circumvent it. Easy to just say you don't care about the ones who can't but how else will they learn?
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Fanny Fallyhare - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 07:31:30 EST /WpbvBEK No.5021137 Reply
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420chan is run from a server in Kirt's basement. Nobody can take us down.
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Vitor Belfort - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 07:41:35 EST PVNvyNTm No.5021138 Reply
Just don't get too attached to corporate monopoly websites and clients like circlejerk, twitter, discord etc.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:02:02 EST PErI9j88 No.5021139 Reply
>>5021128
my man is the kind of dude that hassles all his friends into joining shit like Mastadon or Minds
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Donald Duckington - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:15:48 EST 0Khb1skD No.5021144 Reply
That site kind of killed all forums and do you guys remember forums? They sucked too inb4 "but this one was good" no it sucked.

A bunch of people trying to be as loud and obnoxious as possible to gain forum game, echo chamber forumthink where only one set of ideas was acceptable, footer lines on every post full of gifs and Jim Morrison quotes...

Wanna see what I mean? Gearsluts. That forum is somehow still alive and it is a disgusting place. People will threaten to kill each other over the next roland digital piano.

Bluelight was just as bad, and full of awful misinfo on drugs.

Animal crossing community was probably full of weirdos who wanted to befriend kids (I was a kid when I used it).

So Reddy comes along and drowns them all, the same exact shit goes on there, and everyone acts like they invented that system and bitches.

Bitch up.
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Jimny Flod - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:35:08 EST utoiCvkb No.5021149 Reply
>>5020975
how is it for pedos? circlejerkors think if you're over 25 and sleep with a college aged girl you're a pedo predator unironically. It's also full of normies now since circlejerk comes pre-installed on most modern phones


>>5021144

forums were a better way to organize threads though. You could have threads that lasted years and years. Much easier to read and find when you wanted to back to them. circlejerk has the worst way to read something and finding a thread using their search doesn't work unless the thread was recent
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Donald Duckington - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:48:14 EST 0Khb1skD No.5021158 Reply
>>5021149
Yeah you're right about that. I did have a few useful guides on forums bookmarked. I guess they weren't completely horrible.

I mostly used forums about music production and equipment, and I remember if one of the popular users posted saying you were wrong or stupid, there went your credibility forever and people would treat you like shit. Now I guess you just get downvoted to oblivion and nobody remembers your name.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:55:42 EST PErI9j88 No.5021163 Reply
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>>5021145
I think it's more a societal reaction to the total breakdown of all unified narratives through which people used to find meaning and purpose in their lives. Ironically Trump and the alt right are both quintessentially postmodern, they believe what they want when they want. Just think of how much diversity of "thought" there is in the alt right and yet they all cooperate and get along because the only actual coherent ideology they have is to make people they don't like mad online. Political ideology for them comes not from a belief in any particular thing as objective truth, instead it comes as a form of ego formation where they go entirely on gut and aesthetics. They like the power cause daddy issues, they think the uniforms are cool, and they like the idea of pushing their enemies out of helicopters. The left does it too (r/cth's obsession with saying everyone "gets the wall" or loses their heads or whatever is just an impotent fantasy that will never happen). We all to some extent or another do this. I mean just think of online political spaces with mostly younger millenials and zoomers and how they seem stuck in a ferris wheel on the political compass because there's no foundation on which they build a worldview that seems to be consistent and enduring, it's always proven wrong or inadequate by something, they think "at last I truly see", and then jump ship to increasingly obscure and extreme ideologies until they just get overloaded and go back to fucking, doing drugs, and playing video games while they waste away.

I think the case is slightly different with some people on the left (and who are into contemporary philosophy in general), at least among the ones who aren't orthodox Marxists or similarly strict adherents to any one person's specific ideology. Realizing that the only foundation one can reasonably stand on is the one which says that there is none, that we're adrift in a sea where nothing is certain and nothing is constant. The only grand narrative is that there is none, no one's got all the answers and no one ever will. Because of this, we're constantly critiquing each other and engaging in self-crit (known as "eating ourselves alive" to people still locked in the fantasy that there is such a thing as objective truth) and adapting our views.

To dispel a popular myth, this obviously doesn't mean that we think any idea is as good as any other, no one who's thought about it at all genuinely believes this. Rather, ideas can range on a spectrum of apparent accuracy and usefulness given our perceptions as beings in the world who cannot see it from the outside or possible see the thing-in-itself. Seeing that the phenomenal world IS the world allows us to kind of take liberties we wouldn't be able to if we were to still be on the quest for ultimate truth.

Basically, we're exactly the same as the first category of people but accept what's happening and can therefor have better control over our lives and our beliefs and not have a crisis of the self every time information comes along which contradicts the ideology we were SURE was right this time and either jumping ship or digging in.
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Prince - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 09:01:01 EST XmexRjER No.5021165 Reply
You right wingers always freak out about self reliance, so just go make your own website. It's not like the law came down hard on Tumblr or circlejerk. They are just exercising those property rights you love so much
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HannahSungerstock.ffo - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 09:08:37 EST XgC9PBcM No.5021167 Reply
>>5021165
"Right wingers" are anti-corporate rebels while "left wingers" are fine with big corporations abusing their power. I think we and pretty much everyone got these wings wrong way around.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 09:27:03 EST PErI9j88 No.5021177 Reply
>>5021167
Both sides hate big corporations, we just don't give a shit when they do something we think should be done anyway, because it's not hard to recognize ideological purity isn't possible, these things take time, and actions like this help people in the here and now. The left sees the abuses of global capital and sees the solution as democratic control of the means of production, the right sees abuses of global capital and sees the solution as gassing the jews.

>anti-corporate rebels

o i am laffin
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Rupert Giles - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 09:49:59 EST W6drIyrn No.5021182 Reply
>>5021118
>haha im the only person smart enough to be on the left and hate libs
>why yes I am an American retard who discovered socialism/left-politics in 2016 because of a brooklyn podcast how could you tell
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Aroma Lady Wesley - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:41:19 EST 5Nj8SWhG No.5021192 Reply
>>5021177
the moderate right doesn't trust government bureaucracy any more than corps. just take a glance at disney and copyright laws, thinking there's a clear line between the two is, well, naive is the word.

you sound cozy with your strawman though, I'll leave you to it.
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ThomasSabbleman.pif - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:09:13 EST ZYMN8wfD No.5021202 Reply
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>>5021177
>Both sides hate big corporations
lol, both sides work for big corporations, if you can say there are two sides, which there really aren't.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:25:06 EST PErI9j88 No.5021206 Reply
>>5021202
Who are the "two sides" in your mind that both work for corporations? Does everyone? You're right saying "both sides" is way simplistic and reductionist, I was referring specifically to the far left and the far right though, who share some superficial critiques of late capitalism but differ in every way possible on the cause and the solution of said problems and even why they're problems in the first place. Saying two sides was still wrong.
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Weyoun 7 - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:26:34 EST QmqLWc1F No.5021207 Reply
>>5020907
>free market fucks far right
Hahaha now you understand poltard, how shit is capitalism?
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Master Chief - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:37:53 EST ttjOOAQL No.5021212 Reply
>>5021163
>I think it's more a societal reaction to the total breakdown of all unified narratives through which people used to find meaning and purpose in their lives.
Speak for yourself, Mr. Catastrophic No-Narrative.
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Fanny Fallyhare - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 12:03:49 EST /WpbvBEK No.5021222 Reply
>>5021173
what is that place even about? seems like one of those judgemental shitholes like starterpack memes.
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ThomasSabbleman.pif - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 12:34:55 EST ZYMN8wfD No.5021232 Reply
>>5021206
I thought you were talking about the soft left/centrists and the Republican party. Turns out we're in the same page, simple miscommunication.
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Carl Seyfert - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 16:40:15 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021322 Reply
I'm the only one who is smart and you're all stupid.
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Cedric Grandham - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:08:55 EST GB8VPy0l No.5021430 Reply
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>>5021322
No, I am the chosen one. I can tell that you're not the chosen one because I am the only chosen one.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:10:49 EST PErI9j88 No.5021431 Reply
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>>5021212
Can you actually do a response of some kind of substance rather than a frustrating drive-by comment like this? I'll just rest on the assumption that I'm right and you're wrong otherwise. What do you think is right above all else? Who's got the answers? I really want to know. And I'm not even speaking for myself, I didn't come up with any of this, and it's true whether you want it to be or not, you're just doing exactly what I said everyone does (and has always done knowingly or not) to cope with this fundamental truth by operating as if the story you tell to yourself about your experiences in life is inherently more valid than anyone else's, as if it's possible to be impartial when making observations about the world.

>>5021232
That's kind of what I figured shouldn't have jumped on that one as hard maybe
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Donna Noble - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:14:19 EST Chr3HTu6 No.5021432 Reply
>>5021431
How's this for a drive by comment:
Heidegger was a nazi and Derrida opposed age of consent laws.
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Carl Seyfert - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:23:02 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021435 Reply
I like how people losing their religion somehow becomes a problem for everyone who never had it. The only people who ever had such beliefs were those privileged enough to have had them in the first place. I don't see how identifying the problems with society means that you become a terroristic shit head; it's a moral cop out and it doesn't reflect reality.
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Lt. Ro Laren - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:51:12 EST PErI9j88 No.5021445 Reply
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>>5021432
I don't give a shit. It's dangerous to assume personal perfection is a prerequisite for being able to agree with and propagate someone's specific ideas because it follows that you believe the people whose beliefs you DO adhere to are infallible, and it leads people to put their portraits or insignia on a flag and kill tens of millions who disagree with them underneath it.
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:00:24 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021450 Reply
>>5021445
> it leads people to put their portraits or insignia on a flag and kill tens of millions who disagree with them underneath it.

Then couldn't you have said with you did without the picture?
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Vannah Nevertoke - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:01:20 EST fdziGJXu No.5021451 Reply
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>>5021445
Your trying to spin a piece of shit into a prize. The prize you want is a great thing, but sorry this piece of shit just ain’t it no matter how much you talk it up like a skeevy used car salesman
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:10:47 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021458 Reply
>>5021451
It's like making a post defending vegetarianism while using a picture of Hitler.
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:20:10 EST PErI9j88 No.5021470 Reply
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>>5021450
What? What does the picture have to do with anything other than being an example of two people who were right in some respects and wrong in others? Almost like people aren't their ideas or something and ideas take on a life of their own as soon as they leave the originator's mouth.

>>5021451
The non-statement of non-statements, telling me there's nothing there in my beliefs, without a hint of irony. SAY SOMETHING! refute something! I want my ideas to be challenged! I want them to change constantly just like the world does, I want to learn and grow, but you're not giving me ANYTHING to work with. I have no reason to defend anything I'm saying here, there's no stake in these specific ideas for me, it's just what I think right now at this moment. Tell me why I'm wrong and how I can be more right.
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Vannah Nevertoke - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:22:21 EST fdziGJXu No.5021472 Reply
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>>5021470
Sorry I didn’t even read your post I just posted that because it sounded cool
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:26:44 EST PErI9j88 No.5021479 Reply
>>5021458
That's so fucking intellectually dishonest dude and you fucking know it. Can we forget the specific association with Heidegger cause it's not really necessary considering whether you like it or not his thoughts (like the one's in Being and Time that the Nazis called rubbish and Jewish nonsense at the time and caused him to fall down the ranks in academia, and not any other reprehensible ones that he ALSO happened to believe) deeply influenced contemporary philosophy in an almost incalculable way deeply influencing a diverse body of thinkers such as Hannah Arendt, Sartre, Marcuse, Richard Rorty, and Derrida.
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Vannah Nevertoke - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:28:13 EST fdziGJXu No.5021480 Reply
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>>5021474
There is no truth anymore, it has gone away from us. Now we are left with only lies and tricks and the crumbs people
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:04:33 EST W6drIyrn No.5021496 Reply
It seems like the chapos have found their way to 420chan after their sub got nuked.

fucking angry spergs who are so traumatized by 4trolls that they accuse anyone who disagrees with their retarded world view of being naizs.

note: I'm not talking about the podcast hosts. They're chill. But the fanbase is some next level lolcow cringe
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:16:45 EST PErI9j88 No.5021500 Reply
>>5021493
Lmao you're really fixated on that one subcirclejerk which had already been private for a year because the moderators specifically realized they had a problem with nazis who were going to get the sub banned and low and behold they still did, it's almost like a subcirclejerk's community has nothing necessarily to do with the show once it takes on a culture of its own, just like cth didn't, the death of which has been celebrated by the people who are actually on the show and the ones who actually listen to it, because it had sucked for ages after becoming the default left sub and was such a cringey blend of murder fantasy LARPing and people posting articles like "The Problem With Clapping". The majority of the subs banned were FAR far right.

Corporations are bad and they do bad things, can still think it's funny and good when those bad things by happen to people we don't like, there is legitimately nothing hypocritical about that. The companies should not exist sure, they're all bad, but they do exist right? and we have to exist with-in that structure for the time being while fighting against it, and in this time and place this particular thing was cool and good, if only because of the massive level of cope from freeze peach warriors who dig themselves deeper and deeper into a hole fighting harder and harder again ToS's that basically just amount to "Please do not say the n-word and do not start targeted harassment campaigns".

I remember when this whole thing happened with the Linux contributors ToS and it was just as succulent, even more so considering it's not a corporation and an actual humanitarian effort, and now the reeeees have died down and everyone's forgotten about the few brave men who stood up to the rabid communist Linus Torvalds and his Newspeak policies of telling people not to deadname trans people on the mailing-lists
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Amir Sadollah - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:21:33 EST nRKZ0Mcl No.5021503 Reply
>>5021222
>It seems like the chapos have found their way to 420chan after their sub got nuked.

Yeah that's the most reasonable explanation for what's going on in this thread
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:23:40 EST W6drIyrn No.5021505 Reply
>>5021078
>And again, the invisible hand of the free market is doing this because most people want to post on a site with out you people.

for ages you faggots raged against the "muh free market" conservative nerds but the second the "free market" decided to tagret people that made you mad because your a culture warrior wokescold and not a real leftist you cheered them on like spineless fucks you are.

>b-but it will never happen to 420chan and 4chen and shit because they're not company owned!1!!!!1

you don't understand how precedents work do you? Besides free-speech is a fucking moral value not some codified law shit you bootlicker. fuck me the "left" is a fucking meme. Your probably the same type of dipshit that tries to cancel people like Noam Chomsky because he defends free speech.

now go suck tencent's dick and pretend your doing maoism or whatever r/socialism angsty teen shit you're into. Faggots like you have ruined the internet.
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:24:12 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021506 Reply
>>5021501
Do you feel that Camus was more of humanitarian while Sartre was more of a pessimist?
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Caroline Herschel - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:29:15 EST j82+GQao No.5021509 Reply
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Disregard all of the millennial faggots in this thread reaching entering their 30s trying to be hip leftist young people OP. Even if the internet is forcefully taken away from us (which at that point I think society will collapse since their are now at least two generations of people that were literally raised by the internet), people that actually like having free unfiltered discussion will use analog BBS or make their own version of the internet (its possible)
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:35:34 EST PErI9j88 No.5021512 Reply
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>>5021505
Get it aaaaaaall out. You'll feel a lot better.

>>5021506
I think that's a slightly unfair characterization of Sartre who I think was just a little more pragmatic and realistic in terms of his philosophy being a Marxist and an activist since his time in the French Resistance and seeing first hand the evils of fascism. Camus' philosophy I think fills more of the role of the almost comforting, deflectionary account of the absurdity of life, in works like the Myth of Sisyphus where the futility of searching for meaning in life can also release one from concern about it, since it's pointless to. I think he's more of the kind of thinker that can be deeply important on a personal but didn't have a particularly huge influence outside of schools and cafes. But to be fair, I've only read Myth of Sisyphus, L'Etranger, and selected excerpts from him whereas I've read quite a lot of Sartre.
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Charlotte Fundlepatch - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:38:44 EST w1VkxL86 No.5021518 Reply
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This is like what, the third time that the-donald got banned? I'm supposed to be shocked by this? I'm supposed to be in the belief that this permanent? Or that every possible misspelling isn't a new board now?

circlejerk drama is the lamest because it is always stuff that should have been seen coming a mile off.
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Vannah Nevertoke - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:41:06 EST fdziGJXu No.5021519 Reply
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Fuck yeah boyee fuck these boomers we out here shitting diapers an all that shit you know what I’m sayin vaporwave and cotton candy flavored nicotine an shit u already no
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Amir Sadollah - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:49:51 EST nRKZ0Mcl No.5021521 Reply
>>5021509
>society will collapse because we aren't allowed to be racist online not because of global climate catastrophe and the most powerful country on Earth descending into a proto-Fascist actual police state as we experience more civil unrest than we have ever all while the worst pandemic the world has seen in over 100 years has already killed half a million people and hasn't even begun to hit its peak and everyone is just pretending it's over cause they got super board and wanted their P.F. Changs and to watch fireworks go boom as the US economy collapses and we're facing an unprecedented eviction crisis because the president refuses to actually help people with anything more than what he'd spend on linens while his party pushes one more time to kill the ACA purely out of spite leaving millions of American uninsured during the worst natural disaster anyone alive in the world has ever seen

You people have some interesting priorities.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:50:32 EST W6drIyrn No.5021523 Reply
>>5021503
except r/cumtown HATED chapos bro. They would "chapocheck" you and if the bot detected that you posted on r/chapo they would bully you off their sub.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:51:41 EST W6drIyrn No.5021524 Reply
>>5021521
and freedom of speech is not effected by the rising police state because?

read chomsky
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:56:03 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021528 Reply
I'd hate to be so wrong about everything.
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Caroline Herschel - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 21:56:18 EST j82+GQao No.5021529 Reply
>>5021521
tl;dr
why are you arguing with people you dont agree with online? don't you have a mortgage to pay?
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:03:30 EST PErI9j88 No.5021535 Reply
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>>5021524
Because the police in that police state are the one's posting on the far-right subs that got banned? Because we're a right-wing police state? Because circlejerk isn't the fucking government? There is no cohesion to you peoples' world view at all is there?
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Michael Kovac - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:12:15 EST kY8QKDp1 No.5021539 Reply
>>5021535
but i guess what the fuck did she even oversee, do you know? was she shaping the narrative and culture of ED or just studiously monitoring all those nerds
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Sage James - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:16:59 EST ZYMN8wfD No.5021544 Reply
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>>5021505
He didn't say the free market was cool, he just said what it was doing. Christ dude, how long have you been letting your feelings fester?
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:17:57 EST W6drIyrn No.5021546 Reply
>>5021535
>disingenuous rightoids pretend to care about free-speech so that means everyone who cares about free speech is a nazi

bro nobody except cops themselves and suburban white people in their 50s or older actually defends cops.

take your meds schizo
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:23:10 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021552 Reply
>First they came for the Nazis

The thread.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:27:32 EST W6drIyrn No.5021553 Reply
>>5021550
I think we've lost track of the argument here

the argument was never that every sub that was banned was innocent, but that the circlejerk admins used it as a smokescreen to ban subs that had no connects to 4nazis or the aut-right because they wanted to make circlejerk more corporate friendly.

the people who commit hate crimes don't post on circlejerk for the most part anyways, they post on 4 or 8ch@n. Also, while naizs certainly still exist, lots of people who aren't nazis get accused of being nazis because they challenge neoliberal America's bullshit (see: ice cube, chomsky, Palestinian activists)
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:34:27 EST W6drIyrn No.5021557 Reply
>>5021550
also why do you even post on chan sites. You clearly hate chan culture. just post on twitter or tumblr
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Amir Sadollah - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:52:09 EST nRKZ0Mcl No.5021563 Reply
>>5021553
>ice cube

lmao snuck that one in there innit

whats he said that you like
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Rival Hugh - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:54:35 EST JAabUWi9 No.5021566 Reply
>>5021550
Karl Popper would have applied the same logic to communists & anarchists too. He was hardly a friend of the left.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:59:23 EST W6drIyrn No.5021569 Reply
>>5021566
this guy gets it. All these aging radlib 35 yos from SA and tumblr are such blatant tourists who think kirt agrees with their retarded woke ideology just because he hates nazis or whatever
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Pyramid King Hedda - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:00:08 EST utoiCvkb No.5021570 Reply
>>5021523
aren't chapo and cumtown friends irl? I think Nick Mullen was living with Chapo a few years ago
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Rival Hugh - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:01:35 EST JAabUWi9 No.5021572 Reply
>>5021569
I'm not on your side, in fact, I think you're a stormfag falseflagging. Just stating that Popper is hardly someone friendly to the left.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:02:29 EST W6drIyrn No.5021573 Reply
>>5021570
when I say chapo I mean the fanbase. I am ambivalent towards most of hosts except matt christman (who I like because he does good material/class analysis)
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:04:19 EST W6drIyrn No.5021574 Reply
>>5021572
most people on sotrmfront are like senior citizens tho. Nobody under the age of 50 uses that site. All the young fash post on twitter or 8chan

how new r u?
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Pyramid King Hedda - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:04:52 EST utoiCvkb No.5021575 Reply
>>5021167
websites aren't "big corporations". You can start a website yourself or with some friends. if it takes off then you might become an "evil" one, but most websites just start off basically as a social gathering place. Think of it like a watering hole or a social club. The owners of those IRL aren't required to do anything they don't want, they have the freedom to do so. If I had a party and someone came in yelling racial slurs I can tell them to leave. No one except crazy people are harping I HAVE to let them stay and live with it because they have "freedom" in space that I own and make the rules
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:11:52 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021581 Reply
>>5021167
It's literally the opposite. Corporatism is brother to Capitalism and cousin to fascism. Left wingers want a government that can regulate and reign in corporations. Right wingers view corporations as human entities with the same rights as individuals.
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:13:37 EST PErI9j88 No.5021583 Reply
>>5021566
ok

>>5021569
ok

This is such an intensely infuriating thing that people do constantly where somehow the source of an idea alone invalidates that idea and that only ideologically pure thinkers can have good thoughts. Or that you can't accept some of a person's points while vehemently disagreeing with others. Also I'm not a communist or an anarchist anyway.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:14:24 EST W6drIyrn No.5021584 Reply
>>5021577
you really think zoomers know about stormfront?

Why is everyone on this board stuck in 2008?
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:17:40 EST PErI9j88 No.5021585 Reply
>>5021584
no but they definitely know about the website that cat planets to the word "stormfront" here and has for ages
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:24:42 EST W6drIyrn No.5021588 Reply
>>5021585
oh shit the filter is still in effect? because when I type in 8chan it still comes up as 8chan and not stormfront after I post (at least from my POV, kirt might have tweaked the cat planet and I just haven't noticed) Haven't really posted outside the drug boards in like 3 years so I haven't really been using cat planeted words.
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:30:28 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021592 Reply
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Cat planets have been changed to cat plants.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 23:54:28 EST W6drIyrn No.5021600 Reply
this thread is ebola so I'm going to end it on this note:

have sex and stop have anxiety over fictional internet nazis. smoke moar and chill out
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Claudia Brown - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:02:07 EST Chr3HTu6 No.5021602 Reply
>>5021445
there's personal perfection and then there's just not being a nazi. heidegger was both imperfect and a nazi.
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:12:33 EST PErI9j88 No.5021604 Reply
>>5021602
Does that by default invalidate every single idea he's had? If it does, by axiom that invalidates almost the entirety of continental philosophy as we know it and many of the deep rooted ideas we have today in the West about what it means to exist in the world. I shouldn't have posted a picture of him sure but it was virtually at random from a folder of pictures of philosophers and it fit what I was saying just enough, it was just to add a little body to the post in the same way the picture of Derrida was.

Heidegger was a very bad person. I never once denied that, but I should have been more explicit in condemning him as a person. But bad people can have good ideas. I think this lecture does a good job sifting the useful parts without forgiving or sugar coating any of the unforgivable aspects of his character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDqDJJcJAOg
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Soap MacTavish - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:20:27 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021606 Reply
>>5021604
Why can't you just pick someone else who isn't a Nazi? You mentioned Sartre. I feel like I was more right than I even knew when I said this was like posting a picture of Hitler while defending vegetarianism.
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Hamilton Billerfoot - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:28:45 EST PErI9j88 No.5021609 Reply
>>5021606
Because 1. I wasn't thinking, I didn't have to, but 2. Heidegger was (in the Western philosophical tradition, similar ideas have existed elsewhere for millennia) the originator of the idea that as beings thrown into the world it is impossible to be impartial and all pursuits for knowledge no matter how pure in intention and seemingly detached from society will necessarily be influenced by human bias, which is arguably one of the biggest cornerstones of postmodern thought.
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Soap MacTavish - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 00:35:52 EST vDf+CLGz No.5021613 Reply
>>5021609
Okay but I already thought these exact same things and I have never even heard of Heidegger or studied philosophy. These ideas reached me through simple dispersion and are part of Western thought. You might as well have a picture of me because I'm not even a Nazi.
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Shitting Pickhood - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 07:42:37 EST TdOxPmnE No.5021667 Reply
>>5021609
My high school teachers loved Heidegger too, it was all their 80s teacher training was based on. Pretty much they used this same intellectually deficient analysis too.
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Dan Miller - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 12:17:10 EST HieqbbyR No.5021729 Reply
>>5020907
there there i miss steven universe drawings too, i need to get some drinks
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Ken Loach - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 00:52:10 EST SV28K6bO No.5021980 Reply
>>5021550
holy fuck not even a fan of OP but posting that picture unironically on any chan site should result in a permaban. Absolute cancer.

>>5021729
SBN3? that you?
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Anton Dongway - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 00:54:14 EST vVhYnTLU No.5021981 Reply
>>5020907
society is always changing, there's just more pressure to change now than before because we impact the world at an accelerated rate compared to any other time in history.
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Ivan Menjivar - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 02:01:56 EST PErI9j88 No.5021984 Reply
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>>5021980
hows it feel to know your world is being stolen out from underneath you
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Emma Dodgeson - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 03:18:44 EST 2SXKQHl6 No.5021994 Reply
>>5021984
Feels like you need to get better at hate speech if you think anything's getting stolen from you
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Diego Nunes - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 10:30:01 EST W6drIyrn No.5022066 Reply
>>5021994
he a mentally ill circlejerkor who thinks anyone who uses chan speak is a nazi. ignore him.
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Karl Jansky - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:32:23 EST vDf+CLGz No.5022087 Reply
>>5022066
Who isn't? You're mentally ill; I can tell using my powers of genetic intuition.
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Ken Shamrock - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:43:08 EST HieqbbyR No.5022088 Reply
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>>5020907
we can't not have hate speech, good ol hate speech, what would the world be without good ol hate speech? 7 billion people can't be wrong!
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Thomas Henderson - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:11:28 EST 85jkdlqD No.5022090 Reply
>>5022087
Says the guy who was just prescribed 3 months of adderall from his psychiatrist
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Karl Jansky - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:13:32 EST vDf+CLGz No.5022093 Reply
>>5022090
They don't prescribe adderall for mental illness, you massive doink. In fact, I think adderall is contraindicated for mental illness because it can fuck up your brain chemicals.
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Ken Shamrock - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:14:01 EST HieqbbyR No.5022094 Reply
>>5022090
i wish i had 3 months of adderall

my dancemoves would show all of you bullies who's boss if only i had 3 months of adderall
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Thomas Henderson - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:32:22 EST 85jkdlqD No.5022100 Reply
>>5022093
ADHD is highly comorbid with mood disorders and other mental health disorders. exhibit A: your life.

you trolling?
ADHD is classified as a mental health disorder.
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Thomas Henderson - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:33:28 EST 85jkdlqD No.5022101 Reply
>>5022094
Don’t let that stop you from expressing your true self. i wanna see you dance bb
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Ken Shamrock - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:36:32 EST HieqbbyR No.5022102 Reply
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>>5022097
it depends on how much of a cronenberg movie the thing looks like if very then yes
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Karl Jansky - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:27:35 EST vDf+CLGz No.5022114 Reply
>>5022100
Also, your life is way worse than mine. I can guarantee it. It's all about what you don't say about yourself.
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Karl Jansky - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:15:34 EST vDf+CLGz No.5022132 Reply
>>5022123
I cant remember what I googled but I got a webpage for a California witch and now I am scared. Please help
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Vannah Nevertoke - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:32:08 EST YdaXIDyC No.5022136 Reply
>>5022132
Maybe the witch will cure your ADHD? for a small fee of course. I bet it's legit
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Ken Shamrock - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:48:48 EST HieqbbyR No.5022144 Reply
maybe you guys should be an asswipe to strangers on the internet for zero particular reason good idea
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Sheldon Cooper - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 15:23:48 EST KFkGIKxT No.5022166 Reply
>>5022155

Chan stands for channel. A channel is on TV. Tim Leary said to turn on, tune in, and drop out. So..yep chan basically came from 19870's, okay this sounds stupid but china subtracted 6 8 from it, got 2chan. 2 sum, 2 chan if sum=2 then(2chanb

That is I don't even know what.
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Violet Churchgrab - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 15:41:17 EST nRKZ0Mcl No.5022180 Reply
>>5022066
She is legitimately very insane but has posted here for years meanwhile ive only seen you come here itt to complain about leddit to a community you wrongly assumed would be totally on your side
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Tadashi Nakajima - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 18:02:51 EST W01s8gt/ No.5022225 Reply
>>5022066
Why are you still here? Fuck off and kill yourself already, .you fucking 4chan faggot immigrant
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MarthaGennerwire.dir - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 20:46:52 EST KZU0Wj3O No.5022281 Reply
Over 300 of them have been found dead, they say it's not poachers or poisoning, nor the drought. They make it seem like this is a pathogen.

www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-africa-53257512
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Sylvain Grenier - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 21:09:16 EST vDf+CLGz No.5022293 Reply
>>5022281
WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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Giovanni Cassini - Fri, 03 Jul 2020 01:12:25 EST S0DgWZT+ No.5022398 Reply
>>5022393
Don't give in, that's what he wants. It's why he dresses that way.

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