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- Sat, 14 May 2022 13:41:27 EST gdewOl8+ No.5216277
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I know that most of you are now in your thirties and picking for Amazon or Shipt if you actually have your own car. Want to work for me loading parts into a lathe in a hot machine shop? Easiest fucking job you will ever have.

Requirements:
  1. Not a sex offender requiring registry.
  2. Can make a simple spreadsheet and navigate windows 7.
  3. Can use tape measure and calipers. (Will train)
  4. Will show up by 7:00. This probably should have been #1…
  5. Doesn’t play Rogan podcast for others to hear. You get free BT hearing protection.
  6. Can lift 45 lbs.
  7. Can tell me what 45 pounds is in kilos without google.
  8. Not a sissy boy. You’re going to get dirty once in a while. And it’s hot af in July.
  9. Can show up to interview not high. Generally you can’t be fucked up at work.

Pay starts at $15/hr training if you know absolutely jack shit. Goes up from there to $32 when you are doing your own setups and own tools, etc.

So why the fuck is not one biting? Seems like this beats the hell out of most other entry level jobs without a degree. Does fucking Lyft have benefits now or something? Know what my interview test is? Show me how you drill a hole in this aluminum block. Really. And people walk right out the door.
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Wesley Crusher - Sat, 14 May 2022 13:48:04 EST SwqjtWSm No.5216278 Reply
>navigate windows 7.

So who the fuck is watching? That shit is outdated and already cracked beyond repair.

No ones butting because your job mode is fuckin outdated. Sell your ass to Amazon bots or just sell your stocks. Loser. Because you have a failed business model LMAO!!!
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Lillian Fanderwell - Sat, 14 May 2022 13:58:12 EST gdewOl8+ No.5216279 Reply
>>5216278
I wonder what cutting edge job you perform with your communications degree?

No, we don’t Use windows 7. Some of these controls use embedded windows with custom GUIs. If someone can figure out how to find and move a file on windows XP or 7, they are probably teachable. I have a feeling you might struggle with it. One kid tried to actually sweep the screen like a god damn iPhone.
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Shit Dishwell - Sat, 14 May 2022 14:01:34 EST SMKWYnuj No.5216280 Reply
>>5216279

I've been using windows since windows 98. I moved to python tho.
Not that I'm interested in working for you NB.
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Lee Murray - Sat, 14 May 2022 14:03:35 EST k2Lbv6aB No.5216281 Reply
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Sounds like a shit gig boss, you need to pay more. I make twenty in those conditions with benefits and time off. And we ain't even unionized yet. Get it together, this is a worker's economy.
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Lillian Fanderwell - Sat, 14 May 2022 14:41:26 EST gdewOl8+ No.5216283 Reply
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>>5216281
Yeah that’s fair. I don’t make the call on pay, but that $15 would be for someone with zero experience that is being trained in for 2 months I think. If you have any experience at all it would be at least $20 to start. If you can actually do setups that is a different pay schedule completely. The ultimate goal is to find someone who can setup and eventually program something like in pic. That takes years but pays real money.
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Keanu Reeves - Sat, 14 May 2022 15:02:45 EST 9I5zndaD No.5216285 Reply
There's a lot of warehouse work that pays decent enough and isn't amazon or connected to that world.
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Harley Race - Sat, 14 May 2022 15:10:38 EST ZQvpDcUW No.5216287 Reply
>>5216277
If you're saying people can come on knowing absolutely jack shit, but then you require them to feel comfortable drilling a hole in any kind of metal (something few people have any reason to do in their normal life), you're throwing away good potential workers. That's like 0.01% of the people in the world off the street.

#10 apparently is "already know how to drill a block in aluminum." You may as well put that as #1, because you don't actually seem to give a shit about the rest.

A better way would be to see how they train. "Do you know how to drill into aluminum? If you don't, it's OK. I'll teach you now." Then pay close attention to how well they listen to directions, and how well they can execute based on those directions. If you have a good feeling about them but they just need training, that can turn into a good employee. Stop expecting so much out of people, ffs. This is a service economy. Nobody knows how to use their hands in 2022, but some can be taught.
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Lillian Fanderwell - Sat, 14 May 2022 16:36:59 EST gdewOl8+ No.5216296 Reply
>>5216287
Yeah, you would fail that test. All I expect is that someone show a willingness to ask questions if they can’t describe how to operate a common drill press. The point is to see if they are intimidated by the equipment, environment, materials, etc. You sound like someone that can’t even conceptualize the simplest metalworking task and would throw a hissy fit in an interview rather than be humble and own up to being a sissy.

See #8
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Nicholas Borryford - Sat, 14 May 2022 21:54:48 EST vDL7QciD No.5216310 Reply
OP c'mon, warehouses in the south pay better than that for monkey work.
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Nick Tatopoulus - Sat, 14 May 2022 23:17:23 EST LWmaj0ph No.5216319 Reply
>>5216296
with that attitude you are going to go out of bidness partner

Lathes alone are dangerous as fuck
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Hiker Walter - Sun, 15 May 2022 01:48:09 EST 906ha9yz No.5216321 Reply
>>5216310
Yes and no. Warehouses in Flyover country, US pay $11 to $20 and burn people out quick. Those are jobs where you will never learn anything and are strictly a worker drone, you get UAs, have quotas, no phone or music, work shit hours and management flexes on you over petty shit.

This job will train you as much as you are willing to learn, has reasonable eight hour shifts, and doesn’t even expect you to be productive in any way for like two months to start. Then you get a raise for not quitting or being a fuckwit. And loading parts into a cnc lathe or mill is probably safer than working around forklifts and kiva robots tbh. But yeah I still get it. Were it up to me any trades job would start at $24 just to get people interested again and hopefully going to trade school.
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WalterChundlelure.bin - Sun, 15 May 2022 02:05:30 EST Cwg+cs+2 No.5216322 Reply
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>Not a sissy boy. You’re going to get dirty once in a while. And it’s hot af in July.
>Can show up to interview not high. Generally you can’t be fucked up at work.

well fuck your shit then
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CyrilTrotstone.inf - Sun, 15 May 2022 03:05:43 EST BsiUD6Bc No.5216325 Reply
I try to not work in an all male environment. They are fucktard relics from the past. Stomp them out.
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James Christy - Sun, 15 May 2022 04:14:56 EST EtLFXe7n No.5216327 Reply
Sounds like a shitty place to work.
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Troisgros family - Sun, 15 May 2022 12:18:55 EST 4MHp4zQK No.5216335 Reply
>>5216277
As a 32 y/o female with an advanced degree, I'm glad I don't have to make the choice, but if it came down to it I would hands down rather work in a machine shop vs. picking in a warehouse.
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Troisgros family - Sun, 15 May 2022 12:22:53 EST 4MHp4zQK No.5216336 Reply
>>5216335
But yeah, low pay and tough conditions in a tight job market?

You're way better off spending your time and effort engineering autoloaders and dummy proof fixturing than trying to hire and train meatslaves that won't last a year
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Hiker Walter - Sun, 15 May 2022 13:25:51 EST 906ha9yz No.5216342 Reply
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>>5216338
I’ve considered this. It’s all synth coolant so it’s better than most. Floors are pretty bad and the building is old, but the machines are relatively new and stay clean. I once worked in a place with emulsion coolant that was fish oil based I think. It was super clean and had no fishy smell right up until it went bad, then it smelled like rotten pussy. This one guy would spit his chew in the tank and I think it was basically permanently contaminated after that. Don’t remember him lasting long there. Any way, long term goal is to go to an air/vegetable oil mist-through-tool system. That’s completely dry and nothing ever needs cleaning.
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CyrilTrotstone.inf - Sun, 15 May 2022 15:14:32 EST BsiUD6Bc No.5216345 Reply
Low pay and tough conditions in a tight job market? You're better off opening multiple factories and help build things for people like homes than hanging meatslaves for mola. Or you will just have to bite the bucket and tell them to stop over massing, it's one or the other, don't expect people to lower their standard of living beyond what god has given us naturally just because of the mass, that's blasphemy.
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Giada De Laurentils - Sun, 15 May 2022 16:18:01 EST FaTat8Wj No.5216350 Reply
>>5216342
wtf somebody actually used fish oil for that after the 19th century ended?!
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Hiker Walter - Sun, 15 May 2022 18:31:58 EST 906ha9yz No.5216361 Reply
Ok one question, then I’ll let this thread die:

How many of you can identify a torque wrench and know what it is used for? Maybe 420chan is the wrong place to be asking questions about this kind of labor. For that matter, how many of you have changed your own oil? How many have worked a full time job?
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Jeffrey Jizzstain - Mon, 16 May 2022 23:26:53 EST +0Ch8KHe No.5216427 Reply
>$15 an hour for hard factory work.

>brags about it online.

Did they hire you from the front of a home depot?
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Wylie Dufresne - Mon, 16 May 2022 23:45:50 EST u+M3qKn6 No.5216428 Reply
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>Want to work for me loading parts into a lathe in a hot machine shop?

I spent 4 years as a grocery store truck unloader and shelf stocker, 2 years as a loan shark/repo man, 3 years as a rural WISP install/repair tech, and am now fixing/installing/maintaining copy machines and warehouse fetch robots for an international conglomerate.

Pic related. I got paid $15 to climb rusty antenna towers, crawl under houses, and drive a bucket truck by myself. Rain or shine, hot or cold. Your pussy press at least requires a roof above it. After being a traveling technician for half a decade I literally cannot stay in one place all day, much less sweat like a pig to lathe out metal doo-dads.
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Tommy Pickles - Tue, 17 May 2022 09:38:20 EST ExtRDlJx No.5216445 Reply
>>5216277
If this a legit post, you are under paying people. Pay yourself less.
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Wylie Dufresne - Tue, 17 May 2022 09:41:22 EST u+M3qKn6 No.5216446 Reply
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>>5216444

Thank you for the suggestion, but I did not like the climbing aspect of the job. It did feel good to get over a primal fear of heights and it did give me something to brag about I guess, but it was strictly so I didn't become homeless.

One of those shifted from straight up to a 45 degree angle when I was 50' up it. The people who put it up didn't bolt that section together properly and it finally gave when I climbed up it. Talk about shitting your pants. I was 100% sure I as about to die in that moment. Not a fun job for me.
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Kip Thorne - Tue, 17 May 2022 11:17:03 EST XDWrJIic No.5216450 Reply
>>5216446
I see a picture on that barrel, were you in the white box and that was tilting? why is it installed in the first place? I probably would have accidentally jumped out of it to save myself.
if you are not completely turned away from securing in heights by that, rock climbing could definitely be something you could like. it might be technical, precise but also rewarding because you see immediate results and as a person of action this might be fitting.
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Marc Veyrat - Tue, 17 May 2022 15:14:51 EST gq0I2Whd No.5216472 Reply
>>5216361

>do you guys know how to use blue collar tools?
>totally ignored the earlier post that it's 2022, we live in largely a service economy

I could make an educated guess what a torque wrench is, but I truly don't know off hand. I've only changed my oil a single time on my own (when a family member insisted on teaching me), but it seemed like a lot of shit to move around, unscrew, etc. And it was dirty as fuck. There's probably carcinogens in that shit too.

Meanwhile I can get an oil change for as cheap as ~$15 if I'm willing to wait a few hours, or ~$22-35 if I want it done in 30 minutes. It even includes a free multi point check to see if there's anything major fucked on my vehicle. It's something I'm unlikely to need to do during an emergency/the apocalypse (compared to say changing a tire, which I can do confidently).

So subconsciously I just tossed all those memories in the trash. It was a waste of memory space.

I'm just trying to make you realistically aware how non-self-sufficient most younger US humans are in 2022 when it comes to trades work.

I have a graduate degree in a white collar-related field, late 20s.
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Wylie Dufresne - Tue, 17 May 2022 17:38:55 EST u+M3qKn6 No.5216482 Reply
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>>5216450

That's the bucket of a bucket truck. You ride in it to access things up high. It's controlled with hydraulic oil lines and the pressure is routed to move the bucket. That pic in particular was someone mounted a receiver on the far eave of a two-story house surrounded by thick foliage. I had to raise the bucket up, hop out of it, and use it to lean on a steep roof because it's the only way my short ass could reach the receiver. OSHA can suck my dick. I get the job done.

I have an entire album worth of countryside pictures I took from that job. Pic related. A flooded road that was just receded enough to let me through.

>>5216472

I don't get you or the OP's attitudes. The OP was blindly posting on a dead stoner imageboard asking why all the namby-pamby fodder people he thinks are on here don't hit him up to work in a sweltering machine shop...and you are flexing about having no hard skills and being completely subservient to those who do because you can't be bothered to leave your particular high level of abstraction in society.

I mean there's probably something to every generation in a technically advance democracy getting softer and softer, but we're always gonna need people to repair utilities, autos, clean toilets, build and repair structures....and plenty of young people I've met recently certainly have trade skills because that's the conditioning they were raised with. This problem can also be exacerbated depending on whether you find yourself in a metro area (itself a virtual reality if you think about it) or a rural area where people are forced to develop those skills more often simply to survive.

So OP can keep sweating in a dusty shrapnel shop and you can keep getting charged at the mercy of people with the skills you lack or simply cannot be bothered to practice. Live goes on.
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Wylie Dufresne - Tue, 17 May 2022 17:50:06 EST u+M3qKn6 No.5216483 Reply
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>>5216482

This one was swaying unusually hard. When I climbed down I saw two of the three legs were completely broken at the bottom. It was being held up merely by the guide wires. Death status: dodged again
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Marc Veyrat - Tue, 17 May 2022 19:49:17 EST gq0I2Whd No.5216490 Reply
>>5216482
>flexing about not being self-sufficient

I don't know kw how you came to the conclusion that it's a flex or ego stroke. It was just an attempt at a reality check that he clearly ignored once already.

>skills I can't possess or can't be bothered to possess

I was suggesting that said skills aren't inherently the most value use of one's time, energy, or memory capacity, IN THE CONTEXT of non-commercial uses. So he's dumb for saying we will accept anyone, when he meant we will accept anyone with an arbitrarily dictated minimum of tradeswork/tool experience.

You saw ego stroking where there was none. I don't feel special, that's the whole point of my post. I'm not special; my type of skill set (or lack thereof) is extremely common in 2022. OP has unrealistic expectations of what "no skill/experience" actually means.
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Roachpoach Traymoocher - Tue, 17 May 2022 23:26:39 EST vmISIRAT No.5216499 Reply
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>>5216490
>OP has unrealistic expectations of what "no skill/experience" actually means.

Yeah that’s really what the thread was about. Jokes and ego stuff aside, I’m just really curious if anyone out there in his (her?) early twenties has any interest in or aptitude for any of this stuff. This seemed like a good place to ask since most people here are in the US, have some degree of computer literacy and are maybe thinking about careers or are tired of being broke bums.

But honestly guys, don’t be like me. If you learn a trade, be an electrician, they have the last good union. The only way to make money as a machinist is either apprentice at a big ass legacy company (getting rare in the US) or start your own job shop, usually requiring “a small loan” from daddy and shilling software on YouTube to keep the lights on.
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Nathan Ragefock - Tue, 17 May 2022 23:33:20 EST IzWplut/ No.5216500 Reply
>>5216499

When I get my bachelor's, if I can't find interesting work, being an electrician is my back up plan.
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Legate Hovat - Fri, 20 May 2022 03:56:19 EST tvt90fxX No.5216684 Reply
>>5216277

Is that a connecting rod for a large marine engine? That's like how car and motorcycle engines were built 120+ years ago!
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Gambler Cedric - Fri, 20 May 2022 14:50:05 EST aBxPZkQ7 No.5216715 Reply
>>5216277

>can tell me what 45 pounds is in kilos without google

lol fuck off nb
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Martha Surringbanks - Sat, 21 May 2022 01:25:28 EST tgmi9QPd No.5216780 Reply
>>5216684
Yep. And they still are built that way in many cases. When you need to make 1 or maybe 12 of something like that, shit can get kind of stupid and expensive. You don’t just fire up the 3D printer.

>>5216715
Most American high school graduates seem to have a hard time with this. I tried to explain how to convert cubic inches to centimeters to someone once as he would be expected to do this all the time from a metal density table. He was visibly frustrated and started complaining about the Chinese imposing their culture on us or something. Yeah.
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Vera Rubiin - Sat, 21 May 2022 06:20:43 EST QlPeAiRD No.5216789 Reply
>>5216780
>Most American high school graduates seem to have a hard time with this.
No they don't. In my state they all take a test every year that says they know it. You need to know it for the state endorsement on your diploma. Learn what you're talking about, doomercartooner.
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Martha Surringbanks - Sat, 21 May 2022 07:52:04 EST tgmi9QPd No.5216795 Reply
>>5216789
In my experience they do have a hard time with it unless they are absolutely forced to fabricate or maintain things. Many can’t use a tape measure. Yeah I’ve lived in several states. The bar is pretty fucking low if someone isn’t on a track to college, we’re basically setting kids up to be Uber drivers.
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Admiral Chekote - Sat, 21 May 2022 18:15:20 EST +GolZPzg No.5216843 Reply
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>>5216792
All work and no play make Jack go craycray. Come to m-eye part-eye and have a good t-eye-me and dance the n-eye-ght away, okay?
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Kayron - Tue, 24 May 2022 09:45:22 EST peCMha9M No.5217149 Reply
>>5216277
Hi im the guy who was high as fuck at your interview the other day. you launched into this weird diatribe about being anti drug and having a strict no drug policy at work. You trailed off and then I helped jog your memory. You said I seemed liked a stand up guy and told me to come in monday. I was baked all day monday and you even commended me on my performance.

Lololol same story with most jobs ive worked
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