Leave these fields empty (spam trap):
Name
You can leave this blank to post anonymously, or you can create a Tripcode by using the float Name#Password
A subject is required when posting a new thread
Subject
Comment
[*]Italic Text[/*]
[**]Bold Text[/**]
[~]Taimapedia Article[/~]
[%]Spoiler Text[/%]
>Highlight/Quote Text
[pre]Preformatted & Monospace text[/pre]
1. Numbered lists become ordered lists
* Bulleted lists become unordered lists
File

Sandwich


LOL 1xPill RX sosad by Eugene Goddledock - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:49:22 EST ID:OwSxIoNM No.145259 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1547848162785.jpg -(184020B / 179.71KB, 900x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 184020
This shit reminds me of The Departed...when she throws one pill at Leo's char.

Anyone else EVER seen a script this tiny? Lol! The least i've EVER seen is 14 pills. This shit just seems like a joke...waiting to pick up 1 pill from COSTCO none the less. LOL

doctor bitching general I guess?

This shit reminds me of The Departed...when she throws one pill at Leo's char.

Anyone else EVER seen a script this tiny? Lol! The least i've EVER seen is 14 pills. This shit just seems like a joke...waiting to pick up 1 pill from COSTCO none the less. LOL

doctor bitching general I guess?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq7U7hbqK3o
>>
Eugene Goddledock - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:50:33 EST ID:OwSxIoNM No.145260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1547848233785.jpg -(103725B / 101.29KB, 900x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
DICKS EVERYWHERE
>>
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:54:14 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.145262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145259
I actually picked up a single one 1mg lorazepam at CVS when I was getting my wisdom teeth taken out in Summer 2011. I had never taken a benzo before and the drug didn’t do much for anxiety.
For dental or outpatient procedure purposes, it isn’t uncommon to see a single dosage of a benzo prescribed to someone.


BWB: Extremely Benz'd 2019 Edition by Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 19:24:04 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144995 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1546302244899.jpg -(6497B / 6.34KB, 200x200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 6497
My beloved /benz/, the previous BWB has reached its limit. Well, it is now New Year's Eve and time to create yet another new installment of the BWB thread.

Bumping: 20mg diazepam, kava tea, 2mg alprazolam, and possibly some clonazepam and opiates later.

Happy 2019 to everyone.
101 posts and 37 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
>>
Eliza Dungerhet - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:16:51 EST ID:kdETQBY9 No.145249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
2mg xanax. Never actually done x anax after years of benzos.
Is 5 dollars per 2mg bar a good deal
>>
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:36:06 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.145250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
15mg diazepam (5mg over three periods today), 10mg cyclobenzaprine, and 3.5g kratom. I’ll probably take 10mg diazepam and 20mg zaleplon for bed tonight. I have a phone interview with another university’s counseling psych program in the morning.

>>145249
$5/bar was standard before pressed bars become wildly available on the deep web. I’ve heard of small quantities of pressed bars going for $3-$5/each and pharmacy bars going for up to $10/each. It all depends on your area, but $2-$2.50 per milligram of alprazolam is standard.
>>
High Strung - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:13:14 EST ID:VPU/mRFL No.145253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1547788394200.jpg -(59974B / 58.57KB, 500x368) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
3mg Clonazepam
2 bowls of kush
Cup of hot cocoa

Chair-locked in bed. Bed-locked. Whatever. It makes me not give a fuck that my roommates are wilin' on each other. All I ask is no more NYPD.

At least for now, I'm comfy with Clonazepam, cocoa, and cannabis.
>>
Caroline Puvinglere - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:17:30 EST ID:JSUIrfUn No.145258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1547839050907.gif -(310966B / 303.68KB, 200x200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
4MG CLONAZEPAM DOWN THE HATCH

the drought has ended BWB fuckface
>>
Simon Cliblinghedge - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:16:01 EST ID:wbNtAW6v No.145261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145250
same guy you replied too on different computer. That's good to know. I am almost certain these aren't pressed because ive fucked around with RCs and fake shit but I could be wrong.
and of course i took another bar
gonna stock up soon me thinks


Benzos and appearance/looks by Hamilton Clallypog - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:33:46 EST ID:dwfEfTI7 No.145256 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1547793226257.jpg -(189511B / 185.07KB, 1078x1304) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 189511
Do they change how you look? I quit alcohol but been popping benzos and I look pretty shit when I look mirror. It havent been that long but still
>>
Walter Bogglefud - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:09:10 EST ID:kUv4Zlj6 No.145257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well, they make you look like you took some benzos. they don't make you look like a soggy scrotum or anything though. just like, "we're sorry. we can't come to the phone right now."


kava by John Pommerpet - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:32:50 EST ID:5oescVIl No.145240 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1547739170668.jpg -(214266B / 209.24KB, 800x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 214266
Has anyone tried this instead of benzos? How long does it take to work? I have actually experienced practically fuckall from it but have been told you just need to keep taking it to get reverse tolerance. Is the reverse tolerance permanent? Or do you have to samtart all over? I have like half a pound of it but it's 5 years old now and I don't know how the fuck even to take it.
>>
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:41:42 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.145252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I buy kava tea and drink it a couple of times per week. Most powdered teas don’t last for years at a time. Check for mold!
Kava is calming, has some anxiolytic properties, and can be rather sedating at high doses. However, drinking kava tea isn’t really comparable to popping a benzo for all day anxiety relief.
>>
Shitting Clegglehare - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:43:47 EST ID:q8NbTDMF No.145254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ive done everthing and i still feel kava was one of the worst. fucked my bvitamins up. skin got all yellow
>>
Martha Dabblewedge - Fri, 18 Jan 2019 01:03:58 EST ID:xfZyUmB9 No.145255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145240
You're not going to get the same thing out of kava as you would from benzos no matter the chemotype and kavalactone percentage. Trying to do so is only going to result in a really bad time where you will either never overdo kava again or you will never do it again period.

Once you get over RT you are over it. It doesn't go back up.

It usually takes about 15-25 minutes to take effect which is why it is recommended to take 15-25 minutes between shells until you get where you want to be.

How it is prepared is based on what kind it is. Instant, micronized, fresh, or medium grind. Medium grind is likely what you have so I will go over that.

Take 25g kava and pour it into a 75-100 micron bag (thin sock or tshirt will work in a pinch) over a big empty bowl. Tie it up so nothing can come out, and then shake it to get any powder out into the bowl. After that set the sock in the bowl and pour 450ml of 170f water on top. let it sit for a moment and then begin kneading the bag in the water back and forth for 10 minutes or so. You will know you are done because when you are kneading you will feel an oily residue. When you stop feeling that then move the water to a new bowl. Then repeat the process with the second batch of 450ml 170f water. This is your second wash. Rarely does a 3rd wash have much in the way of kavalactones

The first wash is stronger and you can either drink it as it and drink the second wash later or mix the two to get a standardized amount. Then chill, flavor if you want, and drink 150ml every 15-25min until you drink the 450ml or you are where you want to be.

You may experience some nausea so keep some ginger or chews around.
Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.


we need pynazolam by James Fellyset - Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:34:36 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.145215 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1547577276622.png -(24532B / 23.96KB, 1212x462) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 24532
From one of the ppl working on it:

IS pynazolam that good? YES. I would give up all other drugs (apart from DMT) for a steady supply. It's got potent serotonergic activity so imagine 6MAPB mixed with valium mixed with alcohol and you are part-way there. The Scaffold is flexible. Metizolam was taken from pyrazolam studies. Again. Not really clever was it? Just a loophole in the law. It is in fact possible to make pynazolam it even better. The 4-rings means that it has no a1 affinity (the Z-drugs are a1 selective) so it isn't hypnotic and the nitro is key to serotonin activity (that's why nitrobenzos ARE used as hypnotics, BTW - Professor Nutt wasn't convinced until he tried it. THEN he was convinced. Overall we took a Dr. Dave (David Nichols) approach and said 'that one's a bit too good' i.e. it would make the quaalude frenzy look like nothing. We DID make a much stronger lude analogue but the yields were crap and although it beats ludes, it does't beat pynazolam.

So Pynazolam & derivatives are where it's at IMO. I used to run up the doses for toxicity and got to 400mg and losing a week. I figured that if 5-10mg was a dose & 400mg didn't show toxicity (my wife is a nurse so lots of checks including blood samples) then it was as good as I could make it. Did I know it would be that good? No. I had figured out the likely activity and was right (not clever - lots of papers. I just read everything) but you can't work out euphoria. I was amazed that some really potent opiods weren't euphoric (for example).

All I would say to people is that Sci Hub means we can ALL read ALL the papers. Just become a collector. There are exactly 12 Eunoia Discs (5 years of papers - a full DVD) out there and if I can do it, so can anyone. Know what you are taking because it's almost certain not novel - it will have been in a series in some paper somewhere. Time and effort make up 99% of the work. The 1% is 99% working out synthetic pathways to make it viable and the 1% of the 1% is that lightbulb over the head. I'm sure we all have those.
2 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
>>
Esther Fenkinson - Tue, 15 Jan 2019 16:28:42 EST ID:4423dzKa No.145221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This post is really hard to follow up pla do a tl;dr
It sounds like pynazolam is some half benzo half party drug which sounds fucking dope but still wtf are you saying
>>
Eugene Hogglefield - Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:37:16 EST ID:MuN7QY+4 No.145224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145221
It's all in the paper, god.
>>
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 16 Jan 2019 02:50:05 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.145228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145215
Okay, so you were personally administering dosages that went as high as 400mg in a 7 day period. So we're talking about 40 to 80 doses taken during an entire week depending on if 5mg or 10mg is a standard dosage. What was your rationale for taking that many dosages in a single week's span?

Were you actually synthesizing pynazolam or was this just a very rare benzo that you had happened to stumble upon?

>General questions
How long is the duration?
What is the drug's half-life?
How fast does tolerance build compared to classic benzos and RC benzos?
Is the dosage curve linear or non-linear (e.g. clonazolam)?
How long did you take the drug for in total?
What is the highest dosage of the drug that you have taken and what is the highest reported dosage?

>we need pynazolam
Is this a call for other people to synthesize the drug or just a broad claim for the RC benzo scene needing this benzo in specific?
>>
Walter Surringstag - Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:08:11 EST ID:UEgo6Z6/ No.145236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shit son now i really want pynazolam
>>
Sidney Sumblelodging - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:36:31 EST ID:Boq5c1R8 No.145251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bump bc i want more about this
Synthesize this shit ya nerds


Finding Rx by John Turveyshit - Thu, 10 Jan 2019 00:50:19 EST ID:PMWQtox7 No.145145 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1547099419264.jpg -(32396B / 31.64KB, 880x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 32396
Does anybody know how to go about finding a psychiatrist or nurse practitioner that will prescribe on the first appointment? What is the best way or the fastest way to find a sketchy or dirty doctor or whatever the fuck they are called. I'm in southwest Florida if that makes any difference. I heard this place was the pharmaceutical mecca.
4 posts and 2 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
>>
Hannah Billingson - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:57:10 EST ID:PMWQtox7 No.145195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well goddamnit
>>
Graham Pandlewater - Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:50:44 EST ID:ppFQ1deU No.145218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You just gotta be patient and shop around for doctors that take your insurance, because fuck paying out of pocket to these quacks. Don't be overly pushy about getting benzos. Any doctor worth their salt knows what drug seeking behaviors are. Honestly, all that shit is a fucking hassle. L2drknet
>>
Phineas Gudgefidging - Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:06:27 EST ID:SgSHZhyL No.145222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145181
pretty spot on. I went to a psych for my GAD and didn’t outright ask for benzos though that’s what I was there for. Visit 1 I get lexapro. He says it can help with anxiety. I know I’m not going to take it but just act skeptical and say I’ll try it. Come back a month later and tell him I never took it because I don’t want to start on antidepressants especially after reading up on them. He says understandable and feels me out a little. Ask me if I want to try benzos. Ask him if he thinks that help and tell him I don’t want to get addicted. Writes me a small prescription for Ativan for a month. Come back and tell him it worked great. Bumps me up a bit and that was that. Going on three years with him now from .5mg/day to 3mg/day. He’s insanely chill though and I lucked out as he is the big doc there and he doesn’t take new patients anymore. I was always open with him though just not full disclosure because I would never have gotten benz then. On the first visit he asked if I had any problems with drugs in the passed. Told him I used to smoke. He looks at me like I just killed his mom and very seriously asks “smoke?...like crack, heroin or something?” I say no, weed and he burst into laughter and grills me a little. He’s never drug tested me.
>>
John Pommerpet - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:43:58 EST ID:5oescVIl No.145241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145222
I'm honestly trying to avoid that shit. I would rather just have an infinite supply of gabapentin than keep trying to fuck around with blackoutville and addiction. Of course the very fact I sincerely dont want to be on it probably means they'll want to do so.

See this is why you wind up with seekers to begin with because American healthcare is such a ridiculous stupid fucking joke where you have to play games. I ended up having to play these stupid games and lie and manipulate just to finally get blood pressure medication. As in, actual fucking blood pressure medication because I'm hypertensive and it's been untreated for years and years. If I were rich enough I would abandon doctors altogether and get everything from the darknet including antibiotics. I fucking HATE dealing with US healthcare.

On that note, what are the odds of getting Ritalin? I think it's the only other thing I would actually consider getting and taking other than gabapentinoids and BP medication.
>>
dr. m - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:32:10 EST ID:fidnnvvy No.145248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145241
Ritalin and gabapentinoids are usually contraindicated. It's the reason I'll never get benzos Rxed with my dexedrine/adderall.

Honestly it's easier to get RC benzos and forget the rest.


Advice for travelling with xans by Ebenezer Pockstone - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 01:54:41 EST ID:NH99qN7L No.145237 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1547708081284.jpg -(1246337B / 1.19MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 1246337
I have 6 bars in one of these pill bottle because its mostly full and similar shaped pills, I’m going on vacation with my family to USA from Canada, I was wondering if I should reconsider this. I know the consequences would be severe but how possible is it, my dream is to do xans in the florida heat it sounds so beautiful. Any anecdotes are appreciated as well
>>
Nathaniel Hivingstone - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 02:55:04 EST ID:dwfEfTI7 No.145238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Smuggle them in your tummy
>>
Angus Hizzletig - Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:35:44 EST ID:jBd6WUSA No.145239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Get some gel caps, crush the bars and put them inside a vitamin bottle or something if youre really that worried about being cautious. I went to rehab with a kid that would put heroin in gel caps for family vacations/international travel. you’ll probably be fine though.


Why aren't the best benzos the most popular? by Jenny Charringkut - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 15:38:25 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.144658 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1544301505903.png -(21534B / 21.03KB, 922x432) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 21534
Flunitrazepam, midazolam, triazolam, nimetazepam ....


And yet alprazolam is by far the most popular despite not being near as good as the previous ones...

pic random
27 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
>>
John Blogglemick - Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:34:10 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.145204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145202
i tried the rc versions they were trash

you got kinda tipsy (like drinking 2 beers) for 20 min if your tolerance was 0
>>
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:26:05 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.145205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145200
>But by your same logic
Verbatim, I made a initial comparison of the profit margin of “any benzo” compared to methaqualone. We’re talking semantics at this point. All that I’m saying is that [insert benzo of your choice here] is more profitable and easier to obtain precursors for than methaqualone.. Just because I incidcated alprazolam for comparison isn’t because i think that alprazolam is the most profitable benzo to synthesize, but it is certainly in the highest demand by the general public.

If we’re strictly talking about profit margins, public demand, and ease of access to resources then there is no point in synthesizing methaqualone for a chemist to put on the black market. The risk is too high for a dismal reward.

>Rarely alprazolam presses on the streets
Well, the drug is still the most prescribed benzo in the U.S. The fact of the matter is that media glorification, amongst other things, have fueled a need that is in excess of the prescriptions available. There are tons and tons of bars out there that do contain varying amounts of just alprazolam, alprazolam + other active substances, and RCs that either 1) are cheaper to obtain with greater profit and/or 2) easier to obtain on the clear net in bulk.
>>
Eugene Fesslecocke - Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:24:55 EST ID:1Z7tCgOv No.145207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1547504695650.jpg -(108627B / 106.08KB, 1200x630) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
>>145205
I live in UK but it's popular here but I'm gonna stick to branded stuff in blister packs I'm worried about fake presses
>>
lol - Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:00:33 EST ID:BqpvRW4y No.145209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145207

Even those aren't safe buddy but you definitely have a way better chance of them being real thwn loose pills
>>
Phineas Gudgefidging - Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:11:25 EST ID:SgSHZhyL No.145223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>144658
Alpraz is nice when you don’t have a dependency. Otherwise it’s way too short acting.


all at once vs staggered by Augustus Cronningwater - Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:13:18 EST ID:PeUL9FVI No.145206 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1547500398513.png -(368237B / 359.61KB, 575x1176) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 368237
With opioids, it's generally more recreational to take fewer, larger doses instead of redosing every few hours. It doesn't seem to matter as much with benzos, how do you take your benzos? I generally take 5mg diazepam in the am/afternoon then 2.5 or 5mg before bed. Any benefit to take 10mg at once?
>>
Cornelius Fivingwig - Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:46:53 EST ID:NVx4SelS No.145208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145206
Personally i prefer fewer, larger doses of benzos too.


How long for physical addiction and... by Alice Duckforth - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 06:25:15 EST ID:6NiIqVD7 No.145108 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1546860315826.png -(572220B / 558.81KB, 640x1136) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 572220
So I've just got back a source for diazpama
Me I wanna know how long it takes until you start getting addicted ?

I've fucked with these in the past a long with etizolam an other rc stuff then just stopped.
Got these an zoppies mainly for sleep but I've been taken then cos I like them as well.

>How often can you take them without getting withdrawals?
>I was taking them last night and drank a fair bit,I know it's dangerous but can handle my ale an drugs so I wasn't passing out but what I have noticed I've woke up without a hangover is this due to the Valium working on the Gabba receptors ?
> BIG question how come when I use them to go asleep I only get like 5 hours but when I wake up I feel fresh and like that's more than enough sleep ?

Btw I know the dangers of this drug I'm putting me stash away now till end of next week or somthing so I don't start devolving addictions or tolllerences
>>
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 09:05:31 EST ID:XkdLSsRD No.145177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145108
>I wanna know how long it takes until you start getting addicted ?
Hard to say. Most medical literature says 2-3 weeks, YMMV. The longer youre on the train the harder it is to get off.

I didn't find stopping after years of use to be THAT awful but for others its living hell.

>How often can you take them without getting withdrawals?
Every individual will be different. The best answer is infrequently as possible.

I'd say once biweekly would be pretty conservative, maybe you could handle more frequent. YMMV. Trying to take benzos long term without medical supervision is kind of like rolling dice.

>I was taking them last night and drank a fair bit,I know it's dangerous but can handle my ale an drugs so I wasn't passing out but what I have noticed I've woke up without a hangover is this due to the Valium working on the Gabba receptors ?

Really unlikely. There are a lot of other factors that play more heavily into hangovers. Like hydration.
Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 23:19:58 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.145198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145108
>Without getting withdrawals?
Benzos are not intended for usage over 2-4 weeks. Anything over that is getting into the danger zone of physical addiction. The Ashton Manual indicates that physical withdrawal for typical benzos sets in between 6 and 26 weeks of usage, but newer literature suggests a shorter time period as per TinyTrip's reply above.

>Receptors
Well, it isn't uncommon for someone to take a benzo to help deal with a hangover. But, I haven't necessarily heard of someone no longer getting hangovers because they take benzos. Short-term, I have heard anecdotal reports of people taking a benzo on a night of drinking and having a less harsh hangover.

>5 hours of sleep
People get better quality of sleep when taking a benzo/z-drug rather than drinking. If you feel that 5 hours is adequate I personally do not see a problem with this. 6-8 hours is standard, but 5 hours isn't horrendous.

>I know the dangers
Good, stop while ahead.


Tapering by Leman Russ - Sun, 06 Jan 2019 00:59:01 EST ID:xfZyUmB9 No.145091 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1546754341915.jpg -(165484B / 161.61KB, 1242x1416) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 165484
I'm a long time (10+ year) benzo user who has never been in a position where I needed to taper. I've always managed fairly well with no issues.

Recently over the past few months I have been taking small to large doses more and more frequently ending in daily use for fear of having a seizure if I stopped. I was going to stop like a month or 2 in but I didn't want to seize out and also didn't want to not have my 2-3 times a week rec dose so I started taking daily instead of tapering then like I should have. usually its small amounts on most days and then larger amounts on rec days. Of course that got out of wack and both amounts became larger.

So its time to buckle down and taper.

>here is the important part

Despite the fact that I have been taking large amounts I have found that I can get by easily on 6mg of diclazepam/day with no symptoms or anything like that even though realistically I should need a much higher dosage to start tapering with.

If I feel fine on 6mg diclaz 1/day am I good to start tapering down from there or should I boost it up to be safe?

What should I be watching out for during the tapering process to let me know to jump to a higher or previous dose? I don't really care about most of the side effects of coming off. I can endure those. I just don't want to have a seizure.

Would it be a good idea to have a some fast acting benzo on me that I could take in case things start to go fucky? I don't have a problem having them around. I have a good supply of many things and don't give in and take things just because they are around. Obviously being in this situation it sounds like I do but when I was dosing I wanted to dose and now that I'm starting a taper I have no problem putting everything aside. I just feel like having a fast acting benzo on hand could be good if I things start to go downhill with my taper like tremors or something.
Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
7 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
>>
Leman Russ - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:14:04 EST ID:xfZyUmB9 No.145129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145128
No problem at all.

First mild use was about 15 years ago. Dosage then was very rare during the first 3-5 years. About 10 years ago is when I started taking them more frequently.

More or less during that time up until about 4 months ago I wouldn't take much maybe a 2-3mg alprazolam, 4mg clonazepam, or an equipotent dose of many different diazepines and pretty much solely 2x/week occasionally 3 but almost never consecutively and never more than 2 days in a row when I used consecutively. On very rare occasions when it was actually needed I would take a smaller dose medicinally apart from the times/dosages listed above. I did this for pretty much the entirety of the last 10 years without issue.

4 months ago almost to the day I started taking them more and more frequently. I got a month in and got worried about cessation causing seizures. I didn't want to just stop and something bad happen. Obviously this is where I should have started tapering but regardless I carried on with my use for the next three months leading up until now.

As for the last 3 months my dosages are all over the place. Sometimes I'll take .5mg clam with 300ug flubromazolam. Sometimes I'll add 2-4mg etiz or 2mg kpins to that, sometimes I will take 400ug flubromazolam and 2mg alprazolam, others fluaplrazolam. Alprazolam, etizolam, meclonazepam, bromazolam, flubromazepam, or diazepam, diclazepam, triazolam, triazepam, midazolam, kpins, etc GHB a couple of times(not a benzo I know)

It really varied greatly from day to day. Sometimes I'd just take 6mg dicalz or 4mg clonazepam or something similar. As time passed over those 3 months the amount of times I'd take a smaller dose would fall and the frequency in which I took a larger one would grow. This is the reason I was concerned 6mg diclazepam/day might not be enough considering the chems and dosages I sometimes took.

I went 10 years of 2x a week usage at what I consider low dosages and never had an issue but in the last 3 months its gotten out of control and I just want to reign it back in. I have no problem buckling down and tapering. I have a very fucked up back and have been on pain management for a long time and work a physically intensive job so I am used to most of the symptoms that are stated to accompany benzo use. I just want to safely reign in my use without having a seizure hence the taper and the post.
Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>
Leman Russ - Tue, 08 Jan 2019 18:20:48 EST ID:xfZyUmB9 No.145130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145128
>>145113
Also, I appreciate all of the help and time you've spent helping me with your replies as you always provide to people in similar situations.

I've been frequenting this board and many others for a long time and have had many conversations with you both in the past. I never thought it would happen to me after having it under complete control for over a decade now and seeing all the posts about it and I'm a bit embarrassed that it did to be honest hence the new namefield. I just went though a rough patch and didn't take note until it was too late. Crazy how over 10 years of responsible use can be undone in a month or two.

nb
>>
Leman Russ - Sat, 12 Jan 2019 00:14:36 EST ID:xfZyUmB9 No.145172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bumping so drm and Katz's see my replies.
>>
Sophie Bronkinhot - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:27:37 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.145187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
afaik the hardest on the liver are the ones with nitro groups because that's where they are metabolised to amino groups while producing some reactive oxygen species, still not really enough to be a concern for anyone with a healthy liver

most others are also metabolised at least partially in the liver but not much bad stuff is made during

the 3-oh ones are just glucuronidated and pissed out so these are the safest and have the most predictable metabolisms in people with liver disease
>>
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 23:13:57 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.145197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145172
Apologies for the late responses. Stick to your taper and make sure that you go either 1) use the Ashton Manual or 2) stick to the 10% per week dosage reduction.
Remember to log your dosages.

Best of luck, OP.


Which kind of benzo blotters do you prefer? by George Shakelock - Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:23:11 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.144797 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1545099791003.jpg -(99712B / 97.38KB, 520x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 99712
Cheaper ones with standard doses of the common ones (0.5mg clam for example), stronger ones with the common ones (0.75-1mg clam for example) or more expensive ones with rare stuff (2.5mg nitrazolam for example)
1 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
>>
Henry Druttingturk - Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:04:35 EST ID:JSUIrfUn No.144839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
rare shit all the way, everyone and their grandma has clam/diclaz/etiz/flam, youll get a fuck ton of business if youre the only source for a large selection of very rare benzos
>>
Archie Baggleshit - Tue, 25 Dec 2018 01:20:14 EST ID:jBd6WUSA No.144891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah definitely rare stuff, variety is important.
>>
Esther Sipperbury - Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:10:43 EST ID:ogjbZIm7 No.144970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>144839
I can't find any vendors on google
>>
Sophie Bronkinhot - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:56:41 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.145192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
right now it's clam, flap (sorry but they sell well and are cheap in bulk), week or two later n methyl clonazepam (really good, great for tapering too + doesn't feel disgusting like diclazepam), flunitrazolam and a few weeks after that flubromazolam, nitrazolam

can say for later
>>
Sophie Bronkinhot - Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:57:38 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.145193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>145192
other than there will never ever bi diclaz because it feels like shit and etizolam because everyone has that


Pages Next>>
0 1 2 3 4 5 6
Report Post
Reason
Note
Please be descriptive with report notes,
this helps staff resolve issues quicker.