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BWB Pt. X: A New Chill

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- Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:21:56 EST pGcg1E+Z No.149227
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It seems the old one is no longer bumping and summer is upon us. Let us continue the benzodiazepine saga, the saga of comfy, blackouts, tapers, and all that good stuff.

Starting off the day with 3mg Clonazepam and ready to rock.
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Phoebe Wobblenodge - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:26:39 EST G44df8l+ No.150065 Reply
2100mg gabapentin. Fuck life and reality. I just want to be high all day. No fucks are given.
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Phoebe Wobblenodge - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:11:01 EST G44df8l+ No.150067 Reply
>>150065
Took another 300mg. Up to 2400mg now. Feeling good and better.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 10:55:26 EST TW494SvU No.150068 Reply
>>149227
I almost feel like I’m on a less chattery XR cocaine with how much caffeine I’ve had. In the big scheme of life, it’s not much. For me, it’s a shitload.
200mg caffeine, 22.5mg hydrocodone, 50mg hydroxyzine, and 30mg diazepam.
Remind me to pick up my muscle relaxers. xoxo

Tegratol / antiepileptic meds in benzo withdrawl

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- Tue, 15 Sep 2020 21:03:42 EST XcpKwtG5 No.149960
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So i started taking 400mh tegratol with the hope of not having seozures while withdrawing from alp amd valium use

What yall think
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Nathaniel Fallymadging - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 04:16:22 EST XcpKwtG5 No.149973 Reply
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>>149967
Tram as in tramadol?
The fuck are you talking about tegratol isnt tramadol
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m - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:47:15 EST fPbFbDcZ No.150066 Reply
>>149960

Ohhhh you're taking carbatrol, carbamazepine. Tegretol isn't a used brand in my country. I thought you auto corrected from tramadol, and 400mg seemed to fit the profile.

How much xanax and valium are you WDing from, and for how long were you on it? How often to you take carbamazepine daily? Do you take other epilepsy meds too? Most epileptics I know who take carbamazepine always combine it with additional epileptic meds.

Sorry for the confusion. With all the "I snorted 30mg ativan and nothing happened" threads, I hope you cant blame me.

First time using a Benzo

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- Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:49:12 EST UUi7AeK1 No.149719
File: 1598406552567.jpg -(68015B / 66.42KB, 749x532) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. First time using a Benzo
Just got prescribed Temazepam 15mg x60 for insomnia after ambien stopped working. I was curious and did some research on what people say how it was. Mostly people saying it gives a euphoria or putting them in a very relaxed state. but also a lot of posts saying it was very meh and just knocks your ass out. I'm currently on an SSRI and Adderall for my ADHD. Will those effect my experience? Never did Benzos before and was wondering how it compared to ambien which just made me brain dead and nauseas.

anyways what would be the correct dose you would recommend for recreational use for someone who never did em before.
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Martin Worthingbanks - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:22:07 EST fslTYm4+ No.150034 Reply
>>149759
>Temazepam is one of the most euphoric
This is bullshit. Definetily the least euphoric benzo I'have tried
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Barnaby Gindleletch - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 23:01:35 EST o6CRLrea No.150036 Reply
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>>150034
Yeah, it's not as bad as lorazepam, but if you have a tolerance to benzo's it really isn't all that

If you're new to benzos I'm sure you'll get a kick out of it
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m - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:19:42 EST fPbFbDcZ No.150063 Reply
>>149779

Ok...if you think benzos can even come close to matching focalin-tier euphoric effects, then you dont know much about benzos at all. Benzos generally just relax your body and mind, clear your head, lower your fight or flight response, and make you drowsy. There's no dopamine involved. If you aren't normally an anxious or stressed person, then why would you even expect anything from benzos?

Also, your adderall is definitely, definitely mitigating the effects of the temazepam. Remember that adderall has an even longer half life than dexedrine (both are about ~8-12hr half life, but levo isomer is about 2+ hrs longer on average).

If temazepam won't do it, somehow figure out a way to ask to try triazolam instead. Triazolam is best snorted.

new to benzos

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- Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:12:56 EST HCcGZvwy No.149261
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I'm pretty new to benzos, I've got access to attivan and clonazepam.
which one do you prefer, how much should i take, and what kinda effects can i expect from either?
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Martha Duckshaw - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 01:16:28 EST o6CRLrea No.150062 Reply
It says quicksilver kaleidoscope, it's not close to as bad as most metal fonts

Also that poster is from SF in the early 70s so add a lot of LSD
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m - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:23:54 EST fPbFbDcZ No.150064 Reply
>>150031

You're a fucking moron. You cant snort lorazepam. It's not fucking water soluble you dunce. JFC.

N B

Phenibut

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- Mon, 14 Sep 2020 04:15:00 EST 5zQOtWgI No.149933
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What are y'alls thoughts on it?
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Beatrice Basslemare - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:25:31 EST unO4XUe9 No.150059 Reply
For me it's hard to get it to work, but when it does it's great. It's long lasting and really makes everything better. Benzos make me stupid, slur my words, and can cause a blackout so I'm careful to use it in certain situations but Phenibut is great for job interviews and public speaking.

GHB/GBL

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- Fri, 04 Sep 2020 19:57:33 EST xNLauevU No.149847
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I want to try this so much. What is it like? Is it safe to buy it off the clear web? I know we aren't allowed to discuss sources but I've heard some nail polish remover is 99% gbl, but I don't know why these bastards can't just list the constitutive ingredients.
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Bendy Cojenty The Sacred Turkey Tendie - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 23:06:01 EST nPzOlhba No.150037 Reply
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>>150035
You gotta be careful with these substances because if they aren't made right they can be full of some nasty shit. Some vendors have been caught selling industrial grade shit that would probably do a put a nice hurt on your liver and kidneys. Apparently it's harder to get the truly pure still.
I am unsure of this, I want to know the answer as well, but as far as I know, there are different levels of chemical grade and only the top level of things like BDO is free of these contaminants ? They said this is especially prevalent in BDO iiirc\

I got a bad batch of it that I think did some permanent organ damage, Maybe slight, maybe just coincidental timing and it has nothing to do with drugs. Maybe time will tell, but i'm off BDOf and still experience the organ issues i got while on it.
DO NOT gett addicted to i
FFS.
so at first its like alch in that its uppity and has that euphoria (and more). Then a crash. IF you keep bumping the dose, the hangover gets worse every time.
If you go on a bender, you won't sleep for days. I'd be nodding like I was on heroin, trying to stay awake for more BDO. ANd after the second redose just quite because it's shit from there on out and you're just building an epic hangover.

The best part is, eventually you can only sleep (when you can finally sleep), for about 4 hours on the dot before you have to wake up and take more.

It's loads of fun, just keep it in check
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Nicholas Bammersare - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 05:02:07 EST okPD2qev No.150040 Reply
>>149847
How dangerous would it be for somebody addicted to benzos (2-3mg etiz/day) to take GHB/GBL in "reasonable" amounts (max 1ml gbl). I did this stuff a few times before I became addicted to benz and I just wanted to ask how dangerous this combination really is. I know it can be fatal very quick, but I wanted to ask for some input. Would 1mg etizolam + 1ml gbl be considered as very dangerous already?
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m - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 14:38:17 EST fPbFbDcZ No.150058 Reply
>>150040

It's really not worth the risk (to mix them that is). The risk is much higher than say ethanol + etiz alone for several reasons. One is that GHB & related analogs/pro-drugs etc. are MUCH more potent than ethanol in terms of ml per "unit." So it's easier to take more than intended if your measuring device is a bit inaccurate. Also, side note, IIRC actual GHB & related compounds engage in competitive metabolism with ethanol itself. That means that if someone consumed both GHB analogs & ethanol, they potentiate each other significantly (particularly in terms of duration of effects).

I guess the most important info we/you need to make an informed decision is exactly which GABAergic liquid substance you're ingesting, the exact quantity consumed, which other drugs (if any) have you consumed in the last ~4hr-10ish days (including Rx meds and anything with a long half-life), etc.

Is it really actual GHB? Do you have any evidence that suggests its rough purity? What other intentional or unintentional adulterants are included?

I don't have all that much personal experience with atypical or otherwise liquid GABAergics. The only gabapentinoids I've had are gabapentin and baclofen, only barbiturate I've had is butabital, and o IIRC, the only liquid GABAergic I've had besides ethanol is just two "doses" of GVL, I guess kava kava, valerian root, and chamomile water/ethanol extracts...assuming IV propofol and any benzos/thienobenzos doesnt count).

If you're going to consume it anyways, consider taking it roughly 12hr since your daily etiz dose, or perhaps replace your normal etiz dose with the GHB-related substance (at least for that day). If you must take your typical benzo alongside it, consider taking less etizolam than normal (e.g. 1mg instead of the typical 2-3mg?).

Whatever you do, DO NOT REDOSE GHB-related substances. They're very dosage sensitive. If your first dose seems to weak, record the effects many or on paper/digitally before trying again, preferably at least ~3-9 or so days since last use. Physical ghb dependence can be gruesome. It would seem wise to follow the general "guidelines" of limiting its use to one usage session per week at the most, preferably every two weeks. Once you've become confident in predicting its effects, if you still insist on dosing more than once per day, stick to only a single redosing, and keep the 2nd dosage somewhere between 25-100% as large as the first.

GHB analogs can actually kill you so be careful. Yes I know that high purity GHB is less physically toxic than ethanol, and yeah that's great, but its ine of the many reasons why it can easily be excessive dosed and cause problems.

Oh god I ordered Clonazolam

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- Fri, 18 Sep 2020 06:23:12 EST DsILIbGK No.149998
File: 1600424592279.jpg -(178755B / 174.57KB, 1920x1080) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Oh god I ordered Clonazolam
Given the choice between Clonazolam Flubromazepam and Diclazepam, I didn't do sufficient research and now I have a bottle of knockout drops calling my name in bartard-ese from the cupboard.

Literally cannot find a story about CLam which doesn't go something like "So I took a drop... and then woke up a week later with no more CLam left. Then I went into benzo withdrawal. Stay the fuck away from Clonazolam!" and I've read well over a hundred horror stories by now.

What is the big deal with Clonazolam? I have it in solution, meaning it should be easy for me to steer clear of blackouts where I could compulsively redose the whole bottle like some folks have. Seems to me that most CLam stories happen because they weren't ready to have to do such a tiny dose of it, and blacked out hard.

Gimme Clonazolam stories, I'm dropping .125mg-.250mg tomorrow morning.
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John Commlemidge - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 00:30:00 EST Sw6ECrlm No.150049 Reply
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>>150048
The cops ruining an 18 year olds life because of a little bit of weed? For fucks sake man it's so stupid. Have they really got nothing better to do? They just need to federally legalize it already.

It's a weird situation in the UK because even though it is very much illegal, infact it went back up from class C to class B (technically maximum sentence could be 5 years), police don't actually do much. A lot of police officers will ignore it. The ones who don't, simple possession you get a "cannabis warning" that stays on the police computer but doesn't show up in a criminal background check.

Second time you get a £80 fine. Third time you can be arrested.

Those apply to adults only. Those aged 17 or under will be given a Youth Caution. Cases involving young people, where possible they should be taken home to their parents/ guardians - where this occurs action can be taken at a later date.

Generally though, police just ignore it unless you're actually annoying someone else with it. Say a neighbour doesn't like the smell of weed and complains about it.

So we have a weird situation where technically it's on par with other Class B drugs like amphetamines and ketamine, but is treated much lighter than those drugs.

It's like the US seems closer to legalisation than we are, with some of your states legalising or medical exceptions. But in other ways you're more strict about it.

Why did I type this? I don't know. I'm really fucked up on diazepam and pregabalin right now. I hope somehow you can get your record fixed or find someone to look past it? It sounds hard to have a criminal record in the US... Good luck man.
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David Sunningfoot - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 01:51:17 EST o6CRLrea No.150050 Reply
>>150049
I haven't read more than the first sentence you wrote yet, but lemme tell you it really started to piss me off when I realized I did 3y probation, a month in jail, lost university and then I start seeing weed products at fucking TJ-Max / Target etc

Like. Dude. What the fuck did I go through that for if it was going to become a cash cow for the state not 6 years later

/rantnb lol
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David Sunningfoot - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:01:26 EST o6CRLrea No.150052 Reply
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Oh, and also ten grand in court fees, boo hoo & all but between that, civil forfeiture, traffic cams that fine you 80$ for going 7 over the speed limit in a 55mph zone that only stretches 4 blocks & goes back to 60 on either side *sigh*

Getting stallioned by the state esp. during a pandemic is some bs & I know I'm not alone

Yeah I live in IA which is a essentially a bible-belt state in denial

My roommate used to hook it up with her diazepam script, I miss having it around. Don't worry about typing shit it out I've thrown a way bigger wall of text in this thread, I always nb when I do though this board is too slow for it to matter really

Lyrica (Pregabalin)

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- Tue, 08 Sep 2020 19:06:05 EST okPD2qev No.149893
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Planning on taking 600mg of this stuff because I have a decent benzo tolerance and take phenibut about once a month. Is this already too much or will I be good? Internet sites recommend to start with 300mg, but because of my relatively high benzo tolerance (2-3mg etizolam/day) I am not sure if this will be sufficient for a strong high. Thanks in advance.
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Sophie Brondernidge - Wed, 09 Sep 2020 03:27:48 EST Sw6ECrlm No.149901 Reply
>>149897
I always forget about Baclofen being classed as a gabapentinoid. It's not normally listed as such.
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DTMO - Wed, 09 Sep 2020 05:20:22 EST ZLBXxHJZ No.149905 Reply
>>149901
Yes, it's because it's a western gabapentinoid that predates the drug the g
Class is named after.
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Martin Worthingbanks - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:19:16 EST fslTYm4+ No.150033 Reply
Anything less than 900mg is for pussies

RC benzos

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- Sun, 21 Jun 2020 02:20:11 EST xC/snsb0 No.149200
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Bromazolam
Clonazolam
Diclazapam
Flualprazolam
Flunitrazolam
Eitzolam

First time. What are some of the better ones and the worst ones? What are the differences between them?
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m - Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:09:43 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149324 Reply
>>149200
Here are pretty much the only RC/pseudo-RC benzos that I personally classify as "fully safe," with fully safe meaning that they're at least as safe for long term use as alprazolam, diazepam, clonazepam, or lorazepam (so at least as safe as the least safe of these 4, whichever that is)

In no particular order:

  1. Etizolam (human medical use in Japan, India, Italy, etc.)
  2. Diclazepam aka pseudo-lorazepam XR (its two intermediary metabolites have lengthy Rx human use history, and those two metabolites then metabolize into lorazepam aka ativan itself)
  3. Phenazepam (history of human use in at least School)
  4. Flutazolam (human use in mostly Japan)

and several more
In addition, any analog that's a primary metabolite of a human-approved medical drug, with examples such as:

3-hydroxy-phenazepam (major metabolite of phenazepam and the Rx pro-drug cinazepam)

N-Desalkylflurazepam (metabolite of flurazepam, flutoprazepam, fludiazepam, midazolam, flutazolam, quazepam, ethyl loflazepate, etc.)

and many, MANY more...you can find "designer" RC benzos that are either metabolites or pro-drugs of metabolites of benzos like oxazepam, diazepam, clonazepam, etc.

>drugs that aren't "safe" safe but I'd personally consider quite safe
Pyrazolam (only really effective for anxiety, very weak sedative/hypnotic/myorelaxant properties

>benzo I'm dumb enough to do on occasion

Flualprazolam (enjoy massive tolerance killer, like disproportionate to effects even, and basically more hypnotic xanax)

>benzo I was dumb enough to do but hopefully never will again

Clonazolam (seriously, if you ever do it, only dose one dose/one day in a row, at least 1-2 weeks apart, and if you're remotely smart no more than once every 1-4 months, at a dosage maximum of 0.5mg, perhaps approaching 1mg if you have bartard tolerance, but never >1mg).
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Hugh Hammernatch - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 05:52:46 EST DsILIbGK No.149997 Reply
>>149205
Man not one bartard out there who will approach Clam without insane reverence
Im sitting on a bottle bracing to sample it, but ever since I started deepdiving on the microgram-active benzos I'm genuinely scared to do even .125mg of the shit now. Stories of disproportionately potent withdrawals everyfuckingwhere even after one or two redoses making me consider just tossing the clam... but what a waste of perfectly good bars.
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Martin Worthingbanks - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:13:30 EST fslTYm4+ No.150032 Reply
Etizolam is the only benzo that I have found euforic

ClonazoLAM

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- Tue, 01 Sep 2020 19:29:41 EST Sw6ECrlm No.149805
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For the love of GOD leave this RC benzo alone. Incase you didn't already know. 2.5x the potency of Klonopin.

However that is not the worst thing about it. I have never been so fucked up while simultaneously believing I was completely sober. Also never had such bad amnesia from a benzo or such strong compulsive redosing.

Stick with either Etizolam or traditional pharmaceutical benzos.

RIP my car.
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Jarvis Fickletad - Sat, 12 Sep 2020 02:43:07 EST 34grcRf9 No.149929 Reply
>>149924
When you say "RIP to that memory, do you mean memory of the euphoria and relaxation, or a literal RIP to your ability to form memories, aka blackout?
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Jheen Breen - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:00:50 EST uK1yFmnD No.150019 Reply
>>149910
How come you don't consider Diclazepam recreational if it's basically weaker valium/ativan? Sounds like I could hit it as hard as possible sub-blackout from all my research, super excited to order it since I'm still struggling a bit with the cryptos for Etiz.

benzo x tramadol

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- Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:11:07 EST 4bGnxAQa No.149926
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safe? synergy? alcahol?
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m - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 02:24:31 EST L5RT47+f No.149970 Reply
>>149926
Ditch the alcohol entirely (or only drink 1-2 servings) and choose a low benzo dose with a moderate tramadol dose. Something like 100-300mg tramadol staggered 50mg per 30min plus 1mg pharma xanax/1mg kpin/2mg etizolam/20mg diazepam at the beginning should go well. If you choose say 150mg tramadol and you feel adequately high when it's time to take the third 50mg capsule, just don't take it.

Trams+LOW dose benzo is actually safer than taking tramadol alone, since there's always the risk of seizures with tramadol (risk varies by dose and whether you stagger or not). I personally wouldn't exceed about 250mg staggered or 150mg non-staggered tramadol without also taking a low non-recreational benzo dose, and I wouldn't take over 400-450mg staggered or 250-300mg non-staggered tramadol even with benzos.
nb
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Augustus Shittingworth - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:43:27 EST KOh4LHFw No.150006 Reply
Op here. Thnx all. I found low dose benzo mid dose tram is best. The drinks judt make the high fuzzy and unenjoyable.
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High Strung - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 07:37:14 EST oh3euoiI No.150013 Reply
Forgo the alcohol and keep to a low dose on both like others have said. A few years back my sister mixed some somewhat high doses of Alprazolam and Tramadol (even with no booze) and she had a massive seizure. Shit was terrifying. Don't make the same mistake she did.

etiz discussion

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- Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:13:19 EST VSQFZvfo No.149856
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How does it compare to alprazolam?

Curious about your experiences. Alpraz is the gold standard for anxiety relief, although a tad sedating.

Looking for relief for panic attacks / social anxiety (presentations, interviews)
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Cedric Nigglepure - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:26:04 EST NltPRXPW No.150002 Reply
>>149856
have you tried clonazolam?
i take it every day for panic attacks/anxiety. i used to be prescribed klonopin and this is a bit stronger
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m - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:43:55 EST IErahAwd No.150004 Reply
>>150002
Clonazolam is NOT safe and is NOT effective for medical use. You'll have a seizure eventually. The withdrawal is horrible.

Fake Diazepam?

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- Tue, 15 Sep 2020 03:13:05 EST PG81EgeY No.149950
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I ordered some Diazepam on the dark net a few months ago. Now it's been a while since I've taken any benzos but 5mg has got me fairly spaced and forgetting stuff. A little more sedated than Rx Diazepam I used to get.

The thing is it came in blister packs, in a branded box, with braille on the side, a barcode, and a pamphlet inside with all of the pill info and shit (albeit in a foreign language) so I figured it was legit.

So maybe I just have no tolerance anymore? Maybe it's just shitty quality control and this was a stronger pill? Maybe it's a slightly shittier benzo? Not /opi/ thank god. I didn't think fake Diazepam were a huge problem like Xanax.
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Augustus Trotdale - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 05:16:31 EST Sw6ECrlm No.149975 Reply
>>149974
Of course there is real roche branded valium, just have to be careful because there's loads of fakes. They're actually manufactured by Pakistani company Martin Dow, Roche stopped making Valium years ago and now they have the license to produce "Roche Valium".

There was a fake batch of Bensedin going around that was more like 5mg, but those are gone as far as I can tell. All the Bensedin I've got lately has been genuine and strong.

A trustworthy darknet vendor makes sure his supply is genuine.
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Augustus Duckham - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 04:21:23 EST BGH46ohv No.149994 Reply
bro, i only take 5mg diazepam, if you dont get tolerant to higher doses, then its good as anything, gets the job done. might not get you blacked out but thats rarely a good habit..
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DTMO - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:21:39 EST cjCB6Jde No.150003 Reply
>>149994
I disagree (though it's totally subjective of course). I don't find diazepam 'recreational' until 20-25mg with no tolerance. Obviously I can notice effects below that dose but I'd be inclined to save the pills til I had more if I had no pressing need to take them.

Also I swear different potencies amongst generics is purely a placebo thing.

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- Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:30:13 EST kWBmi0He No.149979
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I keep telling myself I wont use again I wont use again I wont use again.
My peak addiction time was november'15 to October '16, I was half of what I weigh right now because amph and they had me on 6mg xanax a day and ofc I would abuse that script like gnarly. Now since oct that year I've been on a crusade like thing to stay clean but benzos keep falling into my hands and I dont have the power to not take them. It makes me feel good but also guilty as fuck for lying to myself and my loved ones about being clean. Anyone relate or am I alone on this giant rock speeding through the earth?
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DTMO - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 04:03:38 EST cjCB6Jde No.149986 Reply
>>149979
Holy shit, this is how they tell me the earth is going to be destroyed?
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Charles Fuckingway - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 14:18:46 EST rP2CUM7M No.149992 Reply
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>>149979
Do you have a support network, like, one or even a ffew friends who you can be candid and honest with? That can be a big help.

Depending on the country you're from there might be some non-profit organisations too,
So wait what's going on your doctor is still prescribing you 6mg of alprazolam daily?
What the fuck, is this for the purpose of avoiding withdrawls?
Get a doctor to make a slow-taper programme and switch gradually to a long lasting benzo

Ok sorry you're probably aware of all that and the ashton manual, if it's any consolation i know how you feel, i realised shit it's been 4years since i started using them and another 4 is gonna make me braindead.

Took clonaz and alprazaboi together one night woke up to my sister lookin at me and i'd pissed myself on the sofa, father had a big rant and said why dont you just stop like quitting smoking it's a choice. But it's not.

Are benzos preventing you from achieving goals and doing things in life? If so try to think about how much better it would be if you could achieve them and try and get a psychologist.
For me i just started self medicating with them, originally being prescribed valium after a traumatic event and it can be really tough especially when you feel like you've got nothing to live for.

Tried pregabalin?
There's research supporting it helps reduce relapses and withdrawl side effects and cravings in BZP addicts

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