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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Highdose Ashwaghanda

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- Fri, 20 Sep 2019 10:46:04 EST jW0v/dZ8 No.147199
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So I just recently discovered this plant and it works very well for my anxiety, way better than kava, mulungu etc. I take 0,5 to 1g per serving and was wondering whether a high dose of it (5g or more) would beneficial or if it could cause negative sideeffects? Anyone here experienced with ashwagandha?
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Brain - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:08:53 EST FlhZcZS0 No.147200 Reply
>>147199
If it works very well and you ain't required benzos, why try to push this and possibly make this ineffective?
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Hugh Drozzledale - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 04:34:48 EST jW0v/dZ8 No.147219 Reply
>>147200
It works good, but sometimes I have to take a benzo in addition for a sufficient effect. I was wondering whether a high dose of ashwagandha will have a stronger anxiolotic effect or whether it would just cause side effects.

BWB: Chill Vibes for Summer 2019, Pt. 1

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:53:53 EST I6YS7H0F No.146252
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Fellow posters, the previous BWB is no longer bumping. As such, here is the next installment of the thread dedicated to being on benzos, bumping while benz’d, and other benzodiazepine-related topics and questions.

20mg diazepam, 0.5mg alprazolam, and 100mg tramadol to kick shit off!
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Henry Hurringwut - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 15:02:37 EST sgH80cUy No.147216 Reply
4mg clonazepam
1200mg gabapentin
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 19:26:06 EST qkzTPNFj No.147217 Reply
>>146252
My taper wrapped up last week, but uh... I’m getting benz’d for the first time in a long ass time.
40mg diazepam, 75mg tapentadol HCL, 50mg DPH, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, and 4mg ondansetron.

BWB
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David Dupperpare - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 20:54:57 EST 7eVUah6R No.147218 Reply
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>>146252

Probably got a new job doing what I actually want.

Fucking pumped.

Popped 3mg alprazolam and 25mg DPH to see how potentiating it is.

Kinda feeling like I'm almost catching a nod now.

I hope everyone's having a lovely time.

Tinnitus and Ativan withdrawal

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- Sat, 21 Sep 2019 00:18:28 EST xD1rLalo No.147209
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I haven't posted here before, I just remember this site from the early days of the future.

I was on 1mg Ativan for 6 months and started experiencing interdose withdrawal.

I tried and failed cold turkey, my psych did me a 2 week taper.

I'm 14 weeks post taper and I've had tinnitus non stop the past month. It's by far the most unbearable symptom yet.

It's definitely less bad than it was at the start but still very uncomfortable. Google even said for some WD induced tinitus might never go away.

I was on a weak dose for not super long, I'm also youngish at 29.

Do you think it'll go away 100% I miss silence so much.
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Martin Bossleville - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 03:25:14 EST TTCzQoTo No.147212 Reply
sounds par for the course. 2 week taper is retarded especially for someone experiencing interdose w/d. look up ashton manual. poor bz w/d can cause new disease like tinnitus although imo getting interdose wd after only 6 months is a sign of other physical health issues.
It might not go away or not 100%. resuming at 1mg and tapering slowly is an option, but only if 1mg ativan takes away the tinnitus. it might but might not
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Jarvis Gongerdit - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 11:45:41 EST DxXbaTfv No.147214 Reply
>>147212
I am obese and was losing weight. I've become a bit of a shut5in from the withdrawal.

I'm trying to exercise again. I can drop to overweight Biden wise in maybe 6 weeks.

I just hope this goes away 100%, I'm praying the low dose means I can fully recover.
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Jarvis Gongerdit - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 12:38:56 EST DxXbaTfv No.147215 Reply
>>147214
Forgive my typing fuck ups I can't find an option to delete the post and remake it.

Best benzo for sex

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- Wed, 11 Sep 2019 05:05:14 EST m07omdiI No.147075
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What benzos increases libido the most / is most suitable for sex?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:13:13 EST qkzTPNFj No.147104 Reply
>>147089
Etizolam is much more potent and has many desirable effects. The drug kicks in rather quickly and has a duration similar to alprazolam. Oxazepam is one of those benzos that even on paper sounds like shit.
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BenzoBob - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:15:06 EST MUSU/fIQ No.147114 Reply
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How much muscle relaxation do you get from Etizolam? I imagine its better than xanax but also weaker than say Rivotril. Also using 2 benzos at once not a good idea or can it synergise well
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 03:39:05 EST qkzTPNFj No.147213 Reply
>>147114
Etizolam’s muscle relaxation is negligible at best.

Using multiple benzos at once does have synergy, but be cautious with initial dosages (take a lower amount of each than you typically would with each drug solo) and try to avoid re-dosing, driving, alcohol, and other drugs.

PSA: there ARE effectively snortable benzos

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- Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:10:15 EST iLlEpcOH No.147198
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the common rule of them for benzos is eat them, or potentially smoke them if they're weird ones like etizolam, but that insufflation is useless because bioavailabilty but I have some STRONG evedence to the contrary in the case of SOME benzos, I've snorted still like xanax and kpins and it sucked nasty drip, kicked in a little faster cause drip but was weak but heres what I found out

TEMAZEPAM is snortable as all hell, they're caps so I thought what the hell, tine caps, not a lot material, so I figured fuck it lets try, no burn, no drip, sticks to your nose, and you get a legitimate rush, just did and I went from chill to like legit rush of relax and euphoria

any other benzos that are like this? maybe etizolam since you can smoke it? bioavailabilty varies a lot even between benzos

also i just gotta ask, if I cut this shit up really fine and disolved it in in something that it would disolve in it (I know its not very water soluable) that' relatiely safe to put in your veins could I reasonable shoot it? or what about IM?

this shit is the best benzo ive ever tried and for real this is the shit and I feel like it's got a lot of cool ROAs, ima try vaping it

what a versitable legitimately euphoric benzo, specially with a bit of speed mixed in lol

wow my god awhole knew world has opened up, shame it's so hard to cop but my doc gave me a SIXTY day supplie I mean holy shit, I put away 30 for a party and now I got like 5 left after this bender, i got work in two hours so I'm about to get to the last bit of enjoying this shit but god damn this is neat

any other benzos that have good ROAs other than oral? I think the "just eat it" dogma is bs cause like I said I know for a fact etz smokes well, whats safe to shoot, i'm goin all out, this is the beginning of a great time for the forseeable future, sorted my self out with a year t break from all things and now I can come back and have less of a dependency issue, gonna get a couple time delay safes and DAMN I can't wait to get back into responsible use shit this stuff is great

so i guess what other benzos have effective roas beyond just eating? minus boofing cause that always kind of works but idk

point is, it's a whole knew world folks

will report how vaping it goes, setting up a foil
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Martin Bossleville - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 20:33:26 EST TTCzQoTo No.147204 Reply
bruh snorting shit is not cool actually. its a physically harmful bad habit that people only put up with because its good way to administer drugs like coke. you're getting high off your own retardedness.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 01:19:47 EST qkzTPNFj No.147211 Reply
>>147198
OP - you could have just used a basic search engine to look up specific benzos, but I get where you’re coming from.
Temazepam, triazolam, and midazolam are often rated as the most euphoric benzos. Midazolam is commonly used as a pre-surgery and pre-operation medication via IV. Triazolam, like temazepam, is most commonly prescribed for sleep.
As much as smoking benzos I don’t think it’s only with “weird” ones like etizolam. Rather, anyone could feasibly smoke a benzo suspended in a PG solution. Just because a drug can be smoked doesn’t mean it is a good idea by any means. Smoking drugs from this class is not only an ineffective route of administration and terribly harsh on the lungs, but it is also a major waste of an otherwise good drug.

>setting up a foil
Fuck, be prepared for a potentially terrible black out and running the risk of life changing actions.

BE SAFE!

Mr Shoe Relapses HARD

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- Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:19:41 EST 3+mnFvhZ No.147127
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If you were around here on /BENZ/ back in maybe 2012-15 you may have caught wind of my ID, as well as another user IDGAF. We were both the 'wreck heads' of BENZ, myself posting videos where I'd be taking 200mg of diazepam in one sitting, or agreeing to drop 30mg of xanax (not proud of that). Those were truly dark dark times, days that when they were unfolding, deep down I'd wish they would dissipate forever, never to return.

Eventually, they did. Around mid 2017 I started to meditate and workout.. that is after a full on seizure from withdrawing from huge benzo doses and alcohol consumption. I managed to finally taper down and get off of these evil pills for good. As soon as I started to confront my anxiety and life situations head-on, without crutches, things began to improve beyond belief.
I managed to start several businesses with success, I held relationships, my physique started to become way above average for a male in his late 20s. Life was good and it was getting better with each month.

Since leaving benzodiazepines behind, I have always advocated at how dangerous they are. Even if prescribed by a doctor I determine them to be a hindrance to ones life. Whatever you use them for to cover up and hide, that very thing will soon rise up again, later in your life stronger and gnarlier than ever; that is a given.

I currently live in South East Asia and have done for some time. I had to travel to Cambodia for visa reasons to arrange certain documents and what not. Things turned out very badly for me, and I had to travel alone away from my GF. I was stuck in a foreign country, denied access back to where my 'home' was, with my cancelled ATM card, 2 sets of clothing and a smile strung on my face to deal with the entire thing. It's 35 degrees C and I had jeans and a shirt on to paint you a picture. Basically I had to travel to a different location in Cambodia to fly out to Malaysia, to head back to where my home was without immigration issues; fine! Easy... However, Before I departed for the airport, for whatever reason I bought a 10 strip if diazepam and clonazepam from a pharmacy for around $2.20. FUCK! I knew what I was doing, the whole ordeal had gotten to me, but why was I committing to this, I know exactly where this path leads, it doesn't lead anywhere pleasant in any way shape or form.

Fast forward to the second location in Cambodia, I get sold coke from a tuktuk dude, or at least I thought it was coke. However I had downed 5 Long Islands and a few beers, plus a fair few of the benzos beforehand, whatever I railed up my nose could have been this or that. I gummed some, and I didn't get a distinct 'coke taste' from it, however I was super faded so who knows.

I woke up on my hotel floor and had to head for my plane out of Cambodia at 6:30am to Malaysia. I ended up being stuck in Kuala Lumpur for 24 hours, and then returned home. Now I am home, I find myself sourcing diazpepam again... I have fully relapsed. I am under NO ILLUSION. I know exactly where these pills take you. Even if you think you can handle them, if you consider yourself strong minded and whatever else - nope, if you take them on a regular basis you will before long become a slave to them physically, mentally or both.

Not sure why I posted this, but it is what it is. Welcome back to /BENZ/ I guess.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:41:31 EST qkzTPNFj No.147167 Reply
>>147127
Damn Shoe, welcome back.

The idea of benzos being evil completely dismisses their legitimate objective medical and therapeutic value. If we’re talking short-term usage then I do not have any problem with the idea of daily dosing with incremental dosage reductions over, say, 10 days. Same deal with PRN low quantities of benzos. Yeah, the potential for abuse is there but someone likely would not have a physical addiction.

How are you feeling about being back on the /benz/ wagon? When you fully tapered off of diazepam did you use any other substances before fully relapsing?
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Benzofury !DmIYq/V7hg - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 00:20:21 EST JcTSiBNX No.147192 Reply
>>147127
Damn dude, this hurts to read. Making me rethink some shit as usual, Shoe.
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Martin Bossleville - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 20:36:31 EST TTCzQoTo No.147205 Reply
>>147127
benzos dont make you act like that, its your own dramatic play youre performing. you can be physically dependent and have mental compulsion to take them, but youre doing this to yourself for whatever reason. do you have a personality disorder or something?

Phenibut vs benzo

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- Sun, 15 Sep 2019 05:12:26 EST v6tYj6QB No.147140
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How is phenibut in euphroic qualities compared to xanax/etizolam/clonazepam, would you rather take a good benzo or does it have unique effects. What other GABA substances are there, i can think of lyrica, l theanin, ashwaghanda, benzo, phenibut
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Cornelius Tillinghall - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 02:23:20 EST TTCzQoTo No.147184 Reply
>>147176
no lifelong fucking up receptors but phen addiction very textbook drug addiction pattern.
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Ernest Bubberdock - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 07:34:36 EST c0nRytkF No.147197 Reply
>>147176

phenibut works very similarly to gabapentin and lyrica, if you want to read about phenibut in the literature you have to read the russian->english translation since it was developed by the ruskies (as an alternative to benzodiazapines, their philosophy was to give it to astronauts in cases of stress without causing negative effects on their performance like other drugs would)

that being said, phenibut tolerance builds extremely quickly (most recommend using it 2-3x a week MAX, and at a low dosage level)

also the withdrawl is terrible, I'm not sure of its seizure potential but its a nasty drug to have to withdraw from
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Wesley Goshstock - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 16:15:06 EST Vmfj3Tj9 No.147202 Reply
>>147140
Phenibut was nowhere near as good as benzos to me. It felt vaguely dissociative, and a tad bit stimulant like. No appetite, no euphoria, just kinda spacey and out of it. Got from LM so it's legit. Definitely go for a benzo

BWGQ: Bump with Gabaergic Questions

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- Mon, 09 Sep 2019 01:31:59 EST Jlot+jMU No.147045
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Post any questions regarding Benzodiazepines or Gabaergic chemicals and I will answer. I thought it would be nice to give back, I will do my utmost to be your personal anxiolytic medication.

Worried you have taken too much?
Substance interactions?
Health concerns?
Taper advice?

For both therapeutic and recreational information please first see if your questions can be sufficiently answered by:

Professor C. Heather Ashton - Benzodiazepines: How they work & How to withdraw (aka The Ashton Manual)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsjhqdE7-6A
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Chan - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 15:08:09 EST DPA8sSzN No.147188 Reply
>>147186
>Disclaimer: totally unofficial/non-professional medical advice from a nobody
>It is of the utmost importance to seek professional advice with these chemicals

I don't believe there should be any problem. However a quote from the Wikipedia article "Mainly due to the poor quality of clinical research with the plant, there is no high-quality evidence that it provides any medicinal benefit and may cause adverse effects if taken together with prescription drugs.". Again I would say it is fine but would research as much as possible for harm reduction measures before taking it.
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Ernest Bubberdock - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 07:04:44 EST c0nRytkF No.147195 Reply
>>147188
>>147186

>
I don't believe there should be any problem. However a quote from the Wikipedia article "Mainly due to the poor quality of clinical research with the plant, there is no high-quality evidence that it provides any medicinal benefit and may cause adverse effects if taken together with prescription drugs.". Again I would say it is fine but would research as much as possible for harm reduction measures before taking it.

This is horseshit, ashwagandha is one of the most studied plants/supplements around

https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/

>Ashwagandha appears to be involved in signalling through the GABAA receptor, as its beneficial influences on sleep are abolished with GABAA antagonists and potentiated by GABAA agonists[119] and the ability of ashwagandha to enhance GABAA signalling via diazepam has been noted elsewhere with 5µg of the methanolic extract[120] and 100-200mg/kg oral ashwagandha (mice).[121]
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Ernest Bubberdock - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 07:11:56 EST c0nRytkF No.147196 Reply
>>147186

Just slowly taper the benzos and use ashwagandha, its an adaptogen

>Ashwagandha is known as an adaptogen compound, which may be due to the withanolide glycosides (ie. Withanoside IV rather than Withaferin A).[152][153][154] Adaptogens tend to reduce the perception of stress, and while their mechanisms are not well known in the case of Ashwagandha it may be related to preventing a stress-induced increase in NADPH diaphosphorase[128] (ie. nNOS[155][156]) which may be related to preserving the decrease in its negative regulators (serotonin) while preventing its positively regulators (corticosterone, glutamate) from increasing during stress.[128]

Lyrica

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- Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:55:09 EST MDf9rpQf No.147124
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Does anybody have a rough equivalence ratio between Lyrica (Pregabalin) and benzos (klonopin specifically)? I know they are totally different drugs but i'm withdrawing from benzos and i need to know how much pregabalin to take. Thanks
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John Worrycocke - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:31:20 EST gACrxJp9 No.147179 Reply
>>147124
I feel monged if i take too much pregaba

but if i take the right amount i become more sociable

gaba gaba hey

KETOGENIC DIET

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- Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:10:42 EST PiiYACA7 No.147154
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I just discovered that a Ketogenic diet profusely reduce withdrawal symptoms of long term benzo use.
But if a take a high carb meal in this period, I will get inmediatly high anxiety, depersonalization and insomnia for nearly two days
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:44:36 EST qkzTPNFj No.147168 Reply
I know some people who’ve gone through ketosis via the Whole 30 or keto diet. Not everyone experiences a decrease in baseline pain, anxiety, and stress. While a healthy diet can help some people I think more research has yet to find a conclusive significant correlation between Diet A and Symptoms x/y/z decreasing.

>>147154
>>147155
I second this.

Clonazolam

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- Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:39:33 EST 00IhxmNn No.147166
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Sup /benz/

I was hoping if anybody knows does clonazolam's metabolites pop for benzos. I've found some good articles and all they really say is that they are detectable if looked for not that they specifically pop for benzos. The main metabolite is 7-aminoclonazolam. Thanks!
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:48:47 EST qkzTPNFj No.147169 Reply
>>147166
Here’s the scoop: Sometimes. Clonazolam has been hailed as one of the only benzos that does not lead to failing a UA 100% of the time for some people based on certain drug tests. However, because some people do still fail their UAs after ingesting clonazolam it would not be beneficial or even morally acceptable for anyone on this board to tell you, “yeah, you’ll almost never fail a UA if you only take clonazolam.”
My stance has always been to minimize risk and not use.

Someone else might have some more depth.
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Hugh Choffingstone - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 01:04:21 EST 00IhxmNn No.147170 Reply
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>>147169
Appreciate it Dr. Katz, glad to see you're still on this board. It has been a while since I've been back. I really shouldn't risk it. They way they do it at my job is immunoassay done in a very poor manner. Basically they take a "batch" of urine. They take half of every sample put it into one and test it via immunoassay if the batch pops they then GC-MS every individual. Basically my only risk would be if there is cross reaction on the immunoassay or if someone in my batch pops for something and their GC-MS reveals something.

benz drug testing help, especially for peeps on (non drug related) probation

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- Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:29:53 EST 1U6/0O1S No.147145
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oh god oh fuck so /benz/ i have an urgent question
i'm usually a /hooch/ guy myself but this is the last night i'd need my nightly drink but I couldn't afford anything. I scoured the floor of my/my sister's side of our bedroom and found some half broken xanax bars just lying around the floor when she was hard into that. i'd always see that some of the ones she got were bunk but some were really good and so far I'm having the feeling that there *very* good

in any case, my question is, in my complete retardation took the bars to stave off the alcohol withdrawal, not realizing that I have a probation meeting coming up in 3 days. It's not a drug offence probation but they did drug test me once a good while back earlier (and I did come up clean!) but i'm starting to near the term where i could finish off my sentence half way through for good behaviour. I have a feeling this is another point where they'd wanna test me before i get off, but I don't know, and I don't want to take any chances. Do you think the xanax will have left my body by the next 2 and a half days, or is there any good detox drinks or something i could do to make it undetectable?

pls help and thanks <3
thanks <3
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Nigel Murdforth - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 19:46:28 EST 1U6/0O1S No.147148 Reply
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>>147146
>>147147
but there has to be a detox drink for that right
i see them all the time in smoke shops and gas stations
do they work?
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Brain - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 15:59:36 EST qM27bOms No.147153 Reply
>>147148
No, not normally. Have you thought about getting clean piss from someone else?
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Martin Bossleville - Fri, 20 Sep 2019 20:38:32 EST TTCzQoTo No.147206 Reply
>>147148
no certainly not in 3 days. you need to not get tested or someone elses piss

Benzo tolerance

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!!25vT6KkZ - Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:48:22 EST emqn/+6D No.146968
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So 2-3 years ago I would buy a gram of etizolam go through it in about a month withdrawal wait a month and buy another gram. I did this about 6 or 7 times my tolerance was through the fucking roof when I stopped. I have been clean since then and recently I bought some more from a reputable vendor and 7.5mg is barely giving me a buzz. I am pretty sure it isnt underdosed because this guy has a discord filled with benzo fiends and they would call him out. Is my tolerance permanently fucked because it feels so underwhelming.
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Frederick Hungerpen - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:44:16 EST 3+mnFvhZ No.147137 Reply
>>147052
you have a major problem, it is only going to get worse from here. Ultimately it will end in hospital, death, or prison.
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Reuben Fabblebine - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 04:46:04 EST 4pk3Z7WB No.147139 Reply
>>146968
I have some pressed bars that have etizolam but I'm new to benzos. What's the best way to take it?

Diclaz vs clonazolam

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- Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:32:14 EST PvBCgkzm No.147115
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How is Diclazepam vs colanzolam? Had some clonaz, it was nice but it was hard to find a sweet spot with it. You either weren’t high enough or you were blacked out and didn’t remember anything the next day. Some place I used upped the price for clonaz and I’m looking at diclaz now. Would it be better for me to go with that instead?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:05:13 EST hyPyNb1G No.147120 Reply
>>147115
Diclazepam has a much broader range of uses than clonazolam. Objectively, one could still black out with and become addicted to diclazepam. The drug is great for long-lasting anxiety and for tapering. But, diclazepam is almost never talked about in recreational settings as it is extremely similar to lorazepam (Ativan) and lorazepam is even one of diclazepam’s active metabolites.
Outside of the fact that both diclazepam and clonazolam are benzodiazepines their individual safety profile, therapeutic index, duration, and dosage curve are nothing alike.
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Sidney Hiddleridge - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:16:37 EST 2fOKw+fS No.147126 Reply
>>147120
Ah, I see. I’m looking for something more on the recreational side. How is Flubromazolam in comparison to clonaz? Or just your opinion on it in general. Heard mixed things but overall seems like a pretty solid recreational value. Unfortunately I can’t just buy fucking etiz because it’s illegal here because otherwise I’d have done it a long time ago.
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Mr Shoe - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:21:02 EST 3+mnFvhZ No.147128 Reply
>>147115
The main thing you need to keep in mind with Clonazepam is that it's half life is 40 or so hours, which is super long, especially considering it takes 4-5 half lives for a substance to leave your body

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