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Life and benzos

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- Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:09:59 EST e2Rg+uK6 No.150097
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I've been on this board for around 9 years now. I'm sure some of you realize I haven't been here near as much as I used to be and that's because I hit a low in my life that forced me to be sober and for the first time in my life I actually wanted that. Over the last few months I started sipping on beers at night just one for two but, I had been sober for so long it felt as good as taking benz again. a couple months after that I started taking benz here and there and it was fun as hell just like the old days but in the end I'm back to not being able to imagine life without benz again. I'm not sure why I made this post but damn life with benz is so nice but it can be a stressful one aswell.
tldr life with benz is bitter sweet can anyone relate?
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Emma Hadgemedging - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 19:33:05 EST unO4XUe9 No.150099 Reply
I know it's a trope how addicts can say that they can quit whenever they want but I can quit at anytime and I have. It's just hard to stay quit. After a few months I start to wonder why I'm doing this and miss the old days
Edwin Pockdock - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 01:53:52 EST o6CRLrea No.150100 Reply
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for me it's like man why am I sitting through these panic attacks, fuck outta here
Polly Snodlock - Tue, 29 Sep 2020 01:13:09 EST UHGdfHSv No.150112 Reply
Never had to quit benzos but that will come soon enough I'm sure considering I'm taking 4-5mgs a day on top of opiate abuse. But I did have to go to quit Oxy and heroin and go to rehab twice about 8 years ago and like others said quitting is easy compared to staying quit, even though quitting sucked balls. After the second stint I was able to go like 2.5 years completely sober but it seems when you dont do drugs is when everyone suddenly has a whole bunch and drugs end up finding you. Staying sober is so hard when its all around you and so easy to slip up.

Got fired from old job and got new job. Started smoking weed like 1 week in when some guy offered me a hit while we were working I said no at first and just went back and forth in my head and after a few minutes I said fuck it and took a few hits and got high as shit, from then on I was smoking and slowly but surely back to everyday. Few years in some guy starts and has a script for bars and percs and one day he asks me to drive him to the doc and pharmacy in exchange for some pills. loved the xanax right away even though Ive done it before now since I had a stash I would say fuck it and take one here an there plus I had percs so I ate those like candy and starting looking for better shit, which I found. Same thing slowly but surely xanax and opiates everyday, been doing this for like 3 years now and I fucking hate it sometimes. Why did I fall for the trap again or did I just want to actually get high again, pretty sure I wanted to get high again and I fell down the slope again thinking it wouldn't happen again. Fuck this game plus regular life it puts too much stress on the mind, guess that's why I'm addicted to benzos now.

BWB Pt. X: A New Chill

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- Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:21:56 EST pGcg1E+Z No.149227
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It seems the old one is no longer bumping and summer is upon us. Let us continue the benzodiazepine saga, the saga of comfy, blackouts, tapers, and all that good stuff.

Starting off the day with 3mg Clonazepam and ready to rock.
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Charles Bandlewut - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 09:16:22 EST 7yQ7+H7E No.150103 Reply
Never had powder last more than a day even if I cap them I still end up eating it all I only have 8mg left and I picked up 150 on thursday
Chan - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 09:36:08 EST lsy45bH4 No.150104 Reply
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Long time no post /benz/obrous
>10mg Diazepam
>10mg Methylphenidate
>32mg Codiene
>A bowl of 小面

Really at a crossroads of continuing with the 道
The question is do I follow the 道 to the way
I'm not one to speak but various posters here are going aboard
The 道 is the way and I'm walking the path as it shows me
I see myself in you, so any words if you can spare a view.
Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Tue, 29 Sep 2020 00:24:23 EST Xs/E14cC No.150111 Reply
-15mg Mogodon
-7mg Ativan
-45mg Temazepam
-.a couple grams of some nice bud
  • 20mg cyclobenzaprine
  • and a couple of the most proper dope


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- Tue, 01 Sep 2020 19:29:41 EST Sw6ECrlm No.149805
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For the love of GOD leave this RC benzo alone. Incase you didn't already know. 2.5x the potency of Klonopin.

However that is not the worst thing about it. I have never been so fucked up while simultaneously believing I was completely sober. Also never had such bad amnesia from a benzo or such strong compulsive redosing.

Stick with either Etizolam or traditional pharmaceutical benzos.

RIP my car.
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Matilda Bardworth - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 21:33:51 EST o6CRLrea No.150108 Reply
I had kpins scripted for the past few years. Just recently had it changed to alpraz. I enjoyed kpins more but the alpraz makes short work of panic attacks in a way kpins can't

Anyway, getting off topic. From my own experience w/ Clam I would describe it as at first a subtle elation & euphoria combined with extreme delusions of sobriety as you take more to chase that euphoria. I'd compare 6ml to 30mg kpins (I could be very off on the clam dose I remember so little of the few months I was on it)

Put my own ´trip report´ in the other clam thread. Not sure how common it is in liquid form
Fucking Nonkinworth - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 21:48:14 EST unO4XUe9 No.150109 Reply
Is redosing a drug thing or a personality thing?

Normally when I take something and it doesn't work, I never take more. I usually just call it a night and try later. I've never redosed even if I felt like I was stone sober
Wesley Fittingmet - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 21:59:23 EST Sw6ECrlm No.150110 Reply
A bit of both. It's also dose dependent. I could control it at small doses but when I tried a slightly higher dose I had such amnesia that I'd forget I took some and then take more.

If you keep the dose low and have a lot of self control you can take this drug safely.


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- Mon, 14 Sep 2020 04:15:00 EST 5zQOtWgI No.149933
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What are y'alls thoughts on it?
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Shit Blytheridge - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:27:47 EST Ofa1bsa8 No.150102 Reply
I loved it at first. Just worked so well for first month or two ofcourse me the dumbass had to overdo it (think like max 2.5) grams and the magic is GONE FOREVER. Just fucks me up on a bad way now. F pheni was better and i wished i could of gotten that first but sa.me shit wait ages for next dose. Take it. Felt great and got to sleep easy but woke up FUCKED UP and had to work feeling gross now it just makes ke feel weighed down. Only use to me now is smoothing out trips and potentiating booze. Mild wds but i got lucky i think, i miss it cuz it was super stimulating and fairly euphoric.
Alice Morrygold - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:23:19 EST 5zQOtWgI No.150105 Reply
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Interesting, i noticed when i first took it it seemed to last for hours and then the comedown was fairly mild. Haven't really gotten any bad hangovers from it but i also haven't taken more then 2.5 grams in a sitting yet. The only other full GABA-agonist i've tried was Gabapentin, and it is similar but also seems to be stronger then normal-dose Phen
It does seem like tolerance builds up fast and the euphoria i got from the first few times i took it has been diminished by at least half now.
Clara Cabbleham - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:39:32 EST Sw6ECrlm No.150106 Reply
So, interestingly Phenibut is a GABA-B agonist but Gabapentin has precisely zero activity at any of the GABA receptors. This despite Gabapentin being a structural analog of the GABA molecule.

Gabapentin and Pregabalin act on the α2δ subunit of the voltage-gated calcium channels, which is known as the Gabapentin receptor.

Phenibut and Baclofen have a distinctly different high because of their GABA-B agonism in addition to activity at the Gabapentin receptor.

Oh god I ordered Clonazolam

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- Fri, 18 Sep 2020 06:23:12 EST DsILIbGK No.149998
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Given the choice between Clonazolam Flubromazepam and Diclazepam, I didn't do sufficient research and now I have a bottle of knockout drops calling my name in bartard-ese from the cupboard.

Literally cannot find a story about CLam which doesn't go something like "So I took a drop... and then woke up a week later with no more CLam left. Then I went into benzo withdrawal. Stay the fuck away from Clonazolam!" and I've read well over a hundred horror stories by now.

What is the big deal with Clonazolam? I have it in solution, meaning it should be easy for me to steer clear of blackouts where I could compulsively redose the whole bottle like some folks have. Seems to me that most CLam stories happen because they weren't ready to have to do such a tiny dose of it, and blacked out hard.

Gimme Clonazolam stories, I'm dropping .125mg-.250mg tomorrow morning.
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Brain - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 00:09:54 EST MTmi3U3k No.150091 Reply

Start with a 1/4 but the doses will not be accurate as stated.

Throw it away my man. Everyone I know underestimated cLam and has regretted it. I know it doesn't seem that bad, but it is. It's also going to fuck you etizolam tolorance
Emma Hadgemedging - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 00:37:51 EST unO4XUe9 No.150092 Reply
Alright I'll take your word for it. Etilozam works for me and I have no problem using it responsibly, I'll just stick with that and flush the cLam down the toilet. Luckily, I did order Etilozam pellets, I thought the .5 mg was just a different dosage pellet and not something else entirely.
Brain - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 01:49:07 EST MTmi3U3k No.150093 Reply
Others might disagree but sounds to me like you only got 50mg. You could keep it but be very careful. I had 50mg and flushed it after 4 days of compulsive dosing.


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- Fri, 04 Sep 2020 19:57:33 EST xNLauevU No.149847
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I want to try this so much. What is it like? Is it safe to buy it off the clear web? I know we aren't allowed to discuss sources but I've heard some nail polish remover is 99% gbl, but I don't know why these bastards can't just list the constitutive ingredients.
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Ebenezer Pecklechire - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 14:50:00 EST okPD2qev No.150069 Reply
Thank you very much for your detailed response. I get the stuff from the darknet in liquid Form (vendor says 99% GBL but who knows, could also be adulterated). I am very aware of the possibly fatal consequences of mixing gbl and benzos and will be very careful. Might start with 0,5mg etiz max and avoid redosing.
Esther Puckleputch - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 17:10:06 EST BGH46ohv No.150086 Reply
GHB is awesome, but you can only do it like once a week or 2 tops if you want it to stay awesome. Even taking it more often is still a nice drug

First time using a Benzo

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- Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:49:12 EST UUi7AeK1 No.149719
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Just got prescribed Temazepam 15mg x60 for insomnia after ambien stopped working. I was curious and did some research on what people say how it was. Mostly people saying it gives a euphoria or putting them in a very relaxed state. but also a lot of posts saying it was very meh and just knocks your ass out. I'm currently on an SSRI and Adderall for my ADHD. Will those effect my experience? Never did Benzos before and was wondering how it compared to ambien which just made me brain dead and nauseas.

anyways what would be the correct dose you would recommend for recreational use for someone who never did em before.
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Shitting Fommlenet - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 12:33:41 EST UUi7AeK1 No.150076 Reply
Well one month later and I switched out the Temazepam for quazepam
Anyone have any experience with it?
Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:05:45 EST V34+TNT5 No.150081 Reply
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Well I get the best euphoric results from Temaz, at doses of like 120mg. And I have really easy access for lorazepam, bromazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, chlordiazepoxide that I can at random times. Maybe I would change my answer and say Mogodon (Nitrazepam) is most euphoric but it's sort of rare and most people who are prescribed it in my experience generally sell them cheap because no one ever even knows what they are or ever heard of them... Oh and that sweet feeling of 60x 5mg Mogodon for 90$
DTMO - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 08:52:04 EST ggsY4k5k No.150083 Reply
Nitrazepam is definitely the most euphoric benzo. 60x 5mg? Lucky bastard, I pay AUD$80-110 for 25

Tegratol / antiepileptic meds in benzo withdrawl

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- Tue, 15 Sep 2020 21:03:42 EST XcpKwtG5 No.149960
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So i started taking 400mh tegratol with the hope of not having seozures while withdrawing from alp amd valium use

What yall think
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m - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:47:15 EST fPbFbDcZ No.150066 Reply

Ohhhh you're taking carbatrol, carbamazepine. Tegretol isn't a used brand in my country. I thought you auto corrected from tramadol, and 400mg seemed to fit the profile.

How much xanax and valium are you WDing from, and for how long were you on it? How often to you take carbamazepine daily? Do you take other epilepsy meds too? Most epileptics I know who take carbamazepine always combine it with additional epileptic meds.

Sorry for the confusion. With all the "I snorted 30mg ativan and nothing happened" threads, I hope you cant blame me.
Ian Bunkinfare - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:18:15 EST JN279Ejn No.150079 Reply
Ahh yes there are a lotta such threads

Id been taking like between 30-60mg valium and 3 to 4 mg xanax every other day its been loke 2 and a half weeks now and been taking tegratol and pregabalin since basically 400mg teg at night. Ive been using benzos on and off for the past 4 yrs simce a traumatic death, it can be so hard to just say i dont care im getting benzod then ill think about the consequences later. Very insideous

new to benzos

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- Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:12:56 EST HCcGZvwy No.149261
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I'm pretty new to benzos, I've got access to attivan and clonazepam.
which one do you prefer, how much should i take, and what kinda effects can i expect from either?
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Martha Duckshaw - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 01:16:28 EST o6CRLrea No.150062 Reply
It says quicksilver kaleidoscope, it's not close to as bad as most metal fonts

Also that poster is from SF in the early 70s so add a lot of LSD
m - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:23:54 EST fPbFbDcZ No.150064 Reply

You're a fucking moron. You cant snort lorazepam. It's not fucking water soluble you dunce. JFC.

Martha Duckshaw - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 18:09:25 EST o6CRLrea No.150071 Reply
wait, really

I thought Ativan was the only benzo that was water soluable ?? I got that from people saying it on this board too

ya I agree it was a dumb decision ok

Lyrica (Pregabalin)

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- Tue, 08 Sep 2020 19:06:05 EST okPD2qev No.149893
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Planning on taking 600mg of this stuff because I have a decent benzo tolerance and take phenibut about once a month. Is this already too much or will I be good? Internet sites recommend to start with 300mg, but because of my relatively high benzo tolerance (2-3mg etizolam/day) I am not sure if this will be sufficient for a strong high. Thanks in advance.
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Sophie Brondernidge - Wed, 09 Sep 2020 03:27:48 EST Sw6ECrlm No.149901 Reply
I always forget about Baclofen being classed as a gabapentinoid. It's not normally listed as such.
DTMO - Wed, 09 Sep 2020 05:20:22 EST ZLBXxHJZ No.149905 Reply
Yes, it's because it's a western gabapentinoid that predates the drug the g
Class is named after.
Martin Worthingbanks - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:19:16 EST fslTYm4+ No.150033 Reply
Anything less than 900mg is for pussies

RC benzos

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- Sun, 21 Jun 2020 02:20:11 EST xC/snsb0 No.149200
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First time. What are some of the better ones and the worst ones? What are the differences between them?
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m - Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:09:43 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149324 Reply
Here are pretty much the only RC/pseudo-RC benzos that I personally classify as "fully safe," with fully safe meaning that they're at least as safe for long term use as alprazolam, diazepam, clonazepam, or lorazepam (so at least as safe as the least safe of these 4, whichever that is)

In no particular order:

  1. Etizolam (human medical use in Japan, India, Italy, etc.)
  2. Diclazepam aka pseudo-lorazepam XR (its two intermediary metabolites have lengthy Rx human use history, and those two metabolites then metabolize into lorazepam aka ativan itself)
  3. Phenazepam (history of human use in at least School)
  4. Flutazolam (human use in mostly Japan)

and several more
In addition, any analog that's a primary metabolite of a human-approved medical drug, with examples such as:

3-hydroxy-phenazepam (major metabolite of phenazepam and the Rx pro-drug cinazepam)

N-Desalkylflurazepam (metabolite of flurazepam, flutoprazepam, fludiazepam, midazolam, flutazolam, quazepam, ethyl loflazepate, etc.)

and many, MANY more...you can find "designer" RC benzos that are either metabolites or pro-drugs of metabolites of benzos like oxazepam, diazepam, clonazepam, etc.

>drugs that aren't "safe" safe but I'd personally consider quite safe
Pyrazolam (only really effective for anxiety, very weak sedative/hypnotic/myorelaxant properties

>benzo I'm dumb enough to do on occasion

Flualprazolam (enjoy massive tolerance killer, like disproportionate to effects even, and basically more hypnotic xanax)

>benzo I was dumb enough to do but hopefully never will again

Clonazolam (seriously, if you ever do it, only dose one dose/one day in a row, at least 1-2 weeks apart, and if you're remotely smart no more than once every 1-4 months, at a dosage maximum of 0.5mg, perhaps approaching 1mg if you have bartard tolerance, but never >1mg).
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Hugh Hammernatch - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 05:52:46 EST DsILIbGK No.149997 Reply
Man not one bartard out there who will approach Clam without insane reverence
Im sitting on a bottle bracing to sample it, but ever since I started deepdiving on the microgram-active benzos I'm genuinely scared to do even .125mg of the shit now. Stories of disproportionately potent withdrawals everyfuckingwhere even after one or two redoses making me consider just tossing the clam... but what a waste of perfectly good bars.
Martin Worthingbanks - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:13:30 EST fslTYm4+ No.150032 Reply
Etizolam is the only benzo that I have found euforic

benzo x tramadol

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- Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:11:07 EST 4bGnxAQa No.149926
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safe? synergy? alcahol?
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m - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 02:24:31 EST L5RT47+f No.149970 Reply
Ditch the alcohol entirely (or only drink 1-2 servings) and choose a low benzo dose with a moderate tramadol dose. Something like 100-300mg tramadol staggered 50mg per 30min plus 1mg pharma xanax/1mg kpin/2mg etizolam/20mg diazepam at the beginning should go well. If you choose say 150mg tramadol and you feel adequately high when it's time to take the third 50mg capsule, just don't take it.

Trams+LOW dose benzo is actually safer than taking tramadol alone, since there's always the risk of seizures with tramadol (risk varies by dose and whether you stagger or not). I personally wouldn't exceed about 250mg staggered or 150mg non-staggered tramadol without also taking a low non-recreational benzo dose, and I wouldn't take over 400-450mg staggered or 250-300mg non-staggered tramadol even with benzos.
Augustus Shittingworth - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:43:27 EST KOh4LHFw No.150006 Reply
Op here. Thnx all. I found low dose benzo mid dose tram is best. The drinks judt make the high fuzzy and unenjoyable.
High Strung - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 07:37:14 EST oh3euoiI No.150013 Reply
Forgo the alcohol and keep to a low dose on both like others have said. A few years back my sister mixed some somewhat high doses of Alprazolam and Tramadol (even with no booze) and she had a massive seizure. Shit was terrifying. Don't make the same mistake she did.

etiz discussion

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- Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:13:19 EST VSQFZvfo No.149856
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How does it compare to alprazolam?

Curious about your experiences. Alpraz is the gold standard for anxiety relief, although a tad sedating.

Looking for relief for panic attacks / social anxiety (presentations, interviews)
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Cedric Nigglepure - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:26:04 EST NltPRXPW No.150002 Reply
have you tried clonazolam?
i take it every day for panic attacks/anxiety. i used to be prescribed klonopin and this is a bit stronger
m - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:43:55 EST IErahAwd No.150004 Reply
Clonazolam is NOT safe and is NOT effective for medical use. You'll have a seizure eventually. The withdrawal is horrible.

Fake Diazepam?

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- Tue, 15 Sep 2020 03:13:05 EST PG81EgeY No.149950
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I ordered some Diazepam on the dark net a few months ago. Now it's been a while since I've taken any benzos but 5mg has got me fairly spaced and forgetting stuff. A little more sedated than Rx Diazepam I used to get.

The thing is it came in blister packs, in a branded box, with braille on the side, a barcode, and a pamphlet inside with all of the pill info and shit (albeit in a foreign language) so I figured it was legit.

So maybe I just have no tolerance anymore? Maybe it's just shitty quality control and this was a stronger pill? Maybe it's a slightly shittier benzo? Not /opi/ thank god. I didn't think fake Diazepam were a huge problem like Xanax.
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Augustus Duckham - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 04:21:23 EST BGH46ohv No.149994 Reply
bro, i only take 5mg diazepam, if you dont get tolerant to higher doses, then its good as anything, gets the job done. might not get you blacked out but thats rarely a good habit..
DTMO - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:21:39 EST cjCB6Jde No.150003 Reply
I disagree (though it's totally subjective of course). I don't find diazepam 'recreational' until 20-25mg with no tolerance. Obviously I can notice effects below that dose but I'd be inclined to save the pills til I had more if I had no pressing need to take them.

Also I swear different potencies amongst generics is purely a placebo thing.
Esther Puckleputch - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 17:08:38 EST BGH46ohv No.150085 Reply
I dont find benzos recreational other than just like oblivion, imo chasing that is a good way to waste your life. There's a ton of other drugs to use for recreation. I guess if I took like 0.5mg alprazolam it would be "recreational", at least a few times.
But I understand not getting something out of a drug until a certain dose.

>Also I swear different potencies amongst generics is purely a placebo thing.
Also disagree, I've had a couple blind tests, wondering why they effects are different, then later realizing its a different generic. Regardless they're close enough and you get used to it pretty quick.
Weird binders and color dyes can change absorption too. Pharma companies don't put like 15 binders in a pill just for no reason.
Then again with 3rd world generics..wouldnt be surprised if they are over/under dosed

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