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Lack of Serious Withdrawal Symptoms

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- Mon, 06 Jul 2020 04:16:06 EST HCKNLCu5 No.149347
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Anyone else seem to have this weird "superpower"?

When I run out of Clonazepam early I become an insomniac and am definitely more on-edge and emotional, and am much more likely to have panic attacks or PTSD flashbacks (which is why I have a scrip) but I've never had a seizure, had hallucinations, etc.

I hear all these withdrawal horror stories and I know they're real because I've seen one firsthand, but I'm just wondering if I'm the only outlier in the data, so to speak.
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High Strung - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 10:22:55 EST HCKNLCu5 No.149355 Reply
>>149354
> but with the long half life of Clonazepam it would probably become less consequential and negative-impacting on your daily life

I dunno, I've heard a lot more horror stories about the other benzos (particularly Alprazolam and Diazepam), but I've heard a few bad tales about Clonazepam here and there. But eh, like I've said before, I'm a teacher and a published author who can go about his daily life and have a healthy relationship with his family.

>I don't know where you're located but you can provide evidence of your legit script and find an understanding doc.

I live in China now, which has iron-fisted rules about prescription benzos and opiates, but my doctor seems to bend the rules a little and give me a 2 weeks supply instead of a 1 week supply like the law says and the pharmacy doesn't seem to care. But I get 40x 2mg pills every 2 weeks unlike how I used to get 30x 1mg pills a month in the US, so this last 2-week supply I was actually able to make last 3 weeks even with a few nights of binging. Or something. I can't do math very well. Either way she (and the pharmacy) seem to bend the rules a bit.

But, I digress. Maybe indeed the long half-life is why I've never had truly horrific withdrawal symptoms in my life, or I'm some kind of freak.
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High Strung - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 10:27:42 EST HCKNLCu5 No.149356 Reply
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>>149355
ADDENDUM: I get the feeling the PRC is stricter about prescription stims like Adderall and Dexedrine and opiates like Percocet and Loratab than they are benzos. But it's China so, you know, they've got alphabet boys everywhere. Every workplace has an undercover snitch for the cops, so I'd assume at least one of the pharmacy technicians is on the payroll for the Ministry of Public Security. Though my doctor is a full-fledged member of the Communist Party (wears the little pin and everything) so maybe that gives her some leeway in her dosing me?....
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 12:21:02 EST DrzL8Don No.149358 Reply
>>149355
>In China
Damn HS. That's just crazy circumstances. I don't think I have any real world answers for you regarding prescribing. My methadone clinic rep that runs the clinic and makes the daily house calls is a Chinese migrant and he's super humble and nice, can bounce any level of conversation off the guy and he's pretty cool, tell him about my drug use openly and never get reprimand for it. As far as the clonazepam thing goes I don't think he's going say anything I haven't said already. I know he still is tied to family back home but I doubt they are all in pharmacy lol, I wonder what he would say if I explained your circumstance

BWB Pt. X: A New Chill

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- Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:21:56 EST pGcg1E+Z No.149227
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It seems the old one is no longer bumping and summer is upon us. Let us continue the benzodiazepine saga, the saga of comfy, blackouts, tapers, and all that good stuff.

Starting off the day with 3mg Clonazepam and ready to rock.
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High Strung - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 03:51:43 EST HCKNLCu5 No.149346 Reply
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Refill Day.

Holy shit, what a week. Dead friend, have to meet a major deadline by July 31 or else I get fired, and I had to keep picking up classes for a sick colleague, do field trips in the sweltering heat, demo presentation after demo presentation for parents....

>4mg Clonazepam, probably will take more later

Pic related, it's what the break room looked at the end of Sunday afternoon.
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High Strung - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 05:27:48 EST HCKNLCu5 No.149351 Reply
>>149344
I would say Cambodia. Much more politically and economically stable, cheaper cost of living, and an absolutely beautiful country. Also easy to travel to other nearby countries.

The Philippines would be also a good choice. There is a communist insurgency going on but the Communist Party of the Philippines is mainly confines their military operations to rural areas and have a strict policy of not fucking with expats (I know this because I've actually spoken to their former leader). I hear Manila is a great city too.

So, I would say either of those. NB
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High Strung - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 10:48:06 EST HCKNLCu5 No.149357 Reply
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>4mg Clonazepam more

So that brings me to 8mg Clonazepam for the evening. Feels super chill. Just finished binge-watching season 3 of Marcella on Netflix, would recommend but not quite as good as the first 2 seasons. Still a good British crime drama nonetheless. Not sure what I'm gonna do with the rest of my night though, maybe some true crime podcasts or some Archer or some weird industrial records. Dunno yet lol

How to have less withdrawals/no seizure

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- Sun, 05 Jul 2020 09:03:59 EST PZ99zTCC No.149340
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I Stoped taking kpins because nearly ran out, down to half a tablet, how to not have a seizure before I get my refill? Doc said Friday I can refill but i know you can refill scripts 2 days early, what to do until then? ..Drink?
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m - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 20:37:20 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149345 Reply
>>149340
Uhh...you NEED benzos. This can't wait. Booze is ONLY a stopgap for like 1-3 dyas at the absolute most, and 3 days is totally pushing it. AND you'd have to drink from the morning you wake up until you go to sleep. Basically you rapidly drink ~1-3 servings when you wake up, and then drink at least one serving every ~40-75 minutes depending on your size and metabolism. THEN when you go to bed, you basically have to down an extra ~2-4+ servings after you do the 1 serving per hr math to determine how much "extra" is in your system.

If you don't follow this religiously, then booze can almost hurt more than it can help. Some mild things to help are like kava kava in particular, also maybe valerian root + chamomile, but that's truly just not enough.

Can you acquire etizolam/diclazepam overnight domestic shipping from darknet or even clearnet? Diclazepam is better for tapering/stabilizing. In a total pinch you can try GHB/GBL analogues. One I tried only twice was GVL. It was vile but it felt like a dirty benzo for ~4-7 hours.
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Graham Dremblefon - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 07:51:37 EST PZ99zTCC No.149353 Reply
>>149341
What about kratom and cbd gummies do those fuck withthe gaba receptors?

Benzos on flights?

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- Wed, 01 Jul 2020 11:59:08 EST oPMHivI3 No.149302
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Have any of you guys took any substances traveling?

I have a prescription for codeine and the valium pills fit nicley into the packet holes. Im thinking i can just take this and a multivitamin tub replaced with etizolam

Good or terrible idea?

Thanks
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Samuel Crankinham - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 20:29:13 EST BGH46ohv No.149304 Reply
>>149302
They don't care about small number of pills. Honestly you can even grind weed and put it in pill bottles flying domestic us.

what dosage? to get most out of it

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- Sun, 05 Jul 2020 07:12:07 EST tTHidP2m No.149338
File: 1593947527820.jpg -(17086B / 16.69KB, 220x228) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. what dosage? to get most out of it
is it even a point to taking huge doses like 10-20mg clonazepam or would you get more out of it by taking regular 1-6mg? if you had an enormus supply of etizolam or clonazolam or whatever you like, would you take huge doses or do you prefer a regular heavy dose and not those insane people who swallow 30mg klonopin etc.... how do you get the most out of the dosage?

So what's the deal with cross-tolerence

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- Sat, 20 Jun 2020 01:17:50 EST 3I15QrFf No.149183
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So do some benzos have higher affininty with one another for building up a cross tolerance, is it any benzo will have same cross tolerance or do we j ust not really know for a fact?

I have clonazepam and alprazolam and i'm wondering if i should have say valium instead of klon

wat u think, reader?
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Archie Gunderdock - Thu, 25 Jun 2020 15:53:34 EST BGH46ohv No.149251 Reply
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You can look up what sub receptors each benzo agonizes with what intensity, and compare cross tolerance yourself. Otherwise you can look at this pic and imagine cross tolerance based on these difference, factor in duration of drug and relative potency.
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m - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:09:42 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149283 Reply
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>>149251
Why does that particular chart use non-standardized comparisons (e.g. 0.5mg alprazolam vs. 2.5mg lorazepam)? No shit 2.5mg lorazepam is stronger...everything compared to 0.5mg xanax. The same is true for clonazepam at 2mg, like wtf (4x more potent than 0.5mg xanax). Some dosage guides (particularly a few Japanese ones I stumbled upon ages ago) even suggest clonazepam is stronger mg for mg than alprazolam.

Anyways, yeah it's a useful start. I wonder if xanax is truly that ineffective for epilepsy treatment (even in XR formulations). I personally find lorazepam much less sedative than say diazepam.

Is passion flower real or is it just a meme? I've only tried I think kava kava, chamomile, and valerian root. They worked decently when combined with benzos etc., but only kava kava was half decent by itself or mixed with kratom. Just don't drink booze within 1-3 days of kava kava use, as it strains your liver horribly. My dumb ass made a bottle of kava kava-infused and filtered 151 spirits years ago, and my ALT/AST liver tests or whatever went way up. Never again.

nb
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George Nickledock - Sat, 04 Jul 2020 23:17:25 EST BGH46ohv No.149336 Reply
>>149283
I dont understand the numbers. I remember the original chart is in german and decades old, maybe its just copied from that. Then again a lot of "trip sit" "trip safe" harm prevention sites are half retarded. Passion Flower and others like lemon balm supposedly have benzo agonism, compared to benzos very weak. Alpraz has very weak anti convulsant effect imo and wears off too quickly. Diaz has dank muscle relaxation probably why you find it more sedating than loraz
Yea...kava is... annoying. I could see an alcohol free society/person adopt it tho

the trap.

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- Thu, 02 Jul 2020 01:50:57 EST MaeQHndT No.149306
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what are you guys doing to overcome [ destroy it? Or accept it?
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Brain - Sat, 04 Jul 2020 02:17:10 EST XNzbXQoI No.149328 Reply
>>149325
Just ignore this crap M. You don't need to justify shit to a random anon on the net.
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George Nickledock - Sat, 04 Jul 2020 22:21:22 EST BGH46ohv No.149335 Reply
>>149325
Schizo personalities don't necessarily hallucinate or act crazy/deranged. It's like an emotional/libido thing. And unlike bpd, isn't necessarily forever.
Idk if it applies/applied to you. Possible that it did.

>>149317
He who controls the percs controls the universe.

RC benzos

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- Sun, 21 Jun 2020 02:20:11 EST xC/snsb0 No.149200
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Bromazolam
Clonazolam
Diclazapam
Flualprazolam
Flunitrazolam
Eitzolam

First time. What are some of the better ones and the worst ones? What are the differences between them?
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Chan - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 08:49:34 EST JovFSaeR No.149232 Reply
>>149200
Here is my opinion for what it is worth. These are the only ones worth considering.
>Diclazapam (Even this one is a bit iffy)
>Eitzolam

The rest are ug potent. Send you tolerance to the stratosphere, essentially eliminating any recreational value quickly. The -olam blackouts are no joke either so your facing a medical, social risk on top of that.
I discourage any substance use as a rule but you do you and hopefully this helps.

Sidenote: imo benzodiazepines have little recreational value unless combo'd or used in extremely high doses.
ALWAYS PREPARE A TAPER PLAN even if you are sure you won't become dependant or addicted.
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Henry Wablingstone - Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:46:21 EST BGH46ohv No.149245 Reply
>>149212
Thats how it do with benzos, why many people dont associate side effects with benzos, even "shorter acting" benzos stay in blood for weeks. Unless super duper tolerant won't notice levels dropping until weeks later.
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m - Fri, 03 Jul 2020 17:09:43 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149324 Reply
>>149200
Here are pretty much the only RC/pseudo-RC benzos that I personally classify as "fully safe," with fully safe meaning that they're at least as safe for long term use as alprazolam, diazepam, clonazepam, or lorazepam (so at least as safe as the least safe of these 4, whichever that is)

In no particular order:

  1. Etizolam (human medical use in Japan, India, Italy, etc.)
  2. Diclazepam aka pseudo-lorazepam XR (its two intermediary metabolites have lengthy Rx human use history, and those two metabolites then metabolize into lorazepam aka ativan itself)
  3. Phenazepam (history of human use in at least School)
  4. Flutazolam (human use in mostly Japan)

and several more
In addition, any analog that's a primary metabolite of a human-approved medical drug, with examples such as:

3-hydroxy-phenazepam (major metabolite of phenazepam and the Rx pro-drug cinazepam)

N-Desalkylflurazepam (metabolite of flurazepam, flutoprazepam, fludiazepam, midazolam, flutazolam, quazepam, ethyl loflazepate, etc.)

and many, MANY more...you can find "designer" RC benzos that are either metabolites or pro-drugs of metabolites of benzos like oxazepam, diazepam, clonazepam, etc.

>drugs that aren't "safe" safe but I'd personally consider quite safe
Pyrazolam (only really effective for anxiety, very weak sedative/hypnotic/myorelaxant properties

>benzo I'm dumb enough to do on occasion

Flualprazolam (enjoy massive tolerance killer, like disproportionate to effects even, and basically more hypnotic xanax)

>benzo I was dumb enough to do but hopefully never will again

Clonazolam (seriously, if you ever do it, only dose one dose/one day in a row, at least 1-2 weeks apart, and if you're remotely smart no more than once every 1-4 months, at a dosage maximum of 0.5mg, perhaps approaching 1mg if you have bartard tolerance, but never >1mg).
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Fake pills?

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- Thu, 02 Jul 2020 10:42:47 EST k2sz4DlC No.149309
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What are the odds these are fake? Not even mine but a friend bought them and I'm always skeptical.
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m - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 20:22:23 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149312 Reply
>>149309

see

>>149190

Your question has already been answered. It's fake. If it tastes like xanax, then it's either flualprazolam or alprazolam (much more likely flualp). If it's generally tasteless. It's either etizolam, clonazolam, less commonly flubromazolam/diclazepam, some newer RC, or a combination of these, but definitely not real xanax or flualp.

"xanax" brand bars were discontinued ages ago IIRC, not that it matters because basically all white/yellow/green bars are fake. Only trust 0.25mg IR, 0.5mg IR, and 3mg XR xanax tablets. 1mg tablets are more likely real than fake when sold online, but on the street who really knows.
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m - Thu, 02 Jul 2020 20:27:10 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149313 Reply
>>149312
Actually, I'd probably trust XR formulas of any dosage, not just 3mg XR. Also, I'd trust the smaller 0.5/1/2mg XR tablets "more" than 3mg XR, but even the highest XR tablet isn't regularly faked AFAIK.

2mg IR bars are just plain always pressed until proven otherwise in a sealed script bottle, unless perhaps the newer blue bars. But even those are being faked now.

Wisdom Tooth Extraction

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- Tue, 30 Jun 2020 08:49:42 EST e0/r3WNf No.149291
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I'll be going for a removal of my wisdom tooth next month and I'll be given IV midazolam as sedation. The dentist was saying I should take painkillers beforehand.

Is it safe to take Nurofen Plus (codeine phosphate/ibuprofen)? Wanna enjoy myself but don't wanna risk respiratory depression.
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Samuel Crankinham - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 20:31:27 EST BGH46ohv No.149305 Reply
Youll be totally fine, might even enjoy yourself. Do not get any amalgam fillings/root canals though..

the pregab jerks 2 electrric boogaloo

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- Mon, 22 Jun 2020 23:38:10 EST 3I15QrFf No.149230
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sittin here on 900 mg lyrica experiencing these uncozy myoclonic jerks

i know its been talked about before but, stay safe lads remember tolerance rises but also falls and dont take too much thinking it wont affecr you as strong as it does
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Martha Crivingbanks - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 04:26:03 EST phsrayer No.149267 Reply
I wrote a post about P on the psy board just then, about comboing it with other stuff. Had a bad experience.
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DTMO - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:37:14 EST UT+E9AiW No.149287 Reply
>>149241
Citation needed.

Myoclonic jerks and spasms are in no way the same. Yeah, if someone starts twitching up like they are having a GBL overdose, maybe think about a hospital trip. If they're responsive but nodding in and out of consciousness and maybe have a some tremors of the feet then you're just wasting emergency room staff's time and ruining your buzz, frankly.
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David Sommlenadge - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 22:47:50 EST Sao1w8kB No.149288 Reply
>>149287
I understand wher you're coming from but you ar eincorrect, m\yclonus lasting that long IS a seizure and i s repated seizures which actually, under my coiuntry and professions guideline's would necessitate IV diazepam to stop it, as it can devlop i nto a convulsions and it is repeated seizures without full recovery - indication for diazamuls.

new to benzos

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- Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:12:56 EST HCcGZvwy No.149261
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I'm pretty new to benzos, I've got access to attivan and clonazepam.
which one do you prefer, how much should i take, and what kinda effects can i expect from either?
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m - Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:18:17 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149284 Reply
>>149261
There are several threads on the first page literally asking your exact question. Have you considered posting in one of those instead of nudging an innocent thread off the cliff that is page 17? lol

nb, but definitely start with ativan, lower the dose the better (start with 1-1.5mg), no more than once a week and three times per month. Alternate between the two drugs to help slightly reduce tolerance via imperfect cross tolerance.

Clonazepam is roughly twice as strong as lorazepam mg for mg, and most will say that clonazepam hits "harder," is more impairing, and for most more enjoyable. However, it lasts longer than lorazepam, so it fucks your tolerance a bit more than lorazepam.

I say start with lorazepam because your low/no tolerance will get the best use out of it. So you might as well enjoy ativan one dose every weekend or less for a while before busting out the clonazepam. Try to take a bit longer T-break after clonazepam usage, so more like 10-14 days (instead of the 7-10 day wait after lorazepam).

If you don't patiently wait, you'll gain tolerance pretty quickly. These drugs last a long time in your system. Look up their half-lives.

Benzo alternative

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- Fri, 22 May 2020 23:08:15 EST d5I9TZcm No.148986
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Benzos make me better. They make me more assertive, more dominant, reduce my overthinking enormously etc. So all in all they make me more like the person i wish i was. I have easy and cheap access to them and I'm not a regular user. I use them for example when I have to do like a seminar presentation, or meet up with someone i haven't seen in a long time and they help be break the ice easier and have more fluent conversations. You get the point.

The problem is, i know how addictive this shit is, and I can't be doing them all my life.
How do I become the person benzos make me, without using them?
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Fucking Fammerforth - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 21:26:33 EST M/dOntVU No.149275 Reply
Grow as a person, OP.

And there is no growth without pain. An analogy to that would be exercising instead of anabolica to get muscles.

Mindfulness helps a lot. Like when we don't get enough sleep we're more moody at work, things that we would otherwise brush off might drive us over the edge. Recognizing things like this allows us to work on them. For example, instead of tilting and starting to yell at the person in the above example you realise you're so aggrevated by that because of your lack of sleep, so you don't just give in to your emotions, as you understand what's going on. At first it's a bit like your emotions fighting against your reasoning, but with enough self-love and time it will become easier.

If a day is tough and you want to give up, wait until you've had a nights sleep, and look at the situation again to identify if you're really on the wrong path.

It's tough, nobody can transform within a day, so we work hard to be in a better position in the future. If you have your goals and a path to lead you there, you just need to follow it. That's really the perspective you need to take when you are struggling. Focus on what YOU can do. The mistakes and injustices of others are not something that you can control. You can get angry at it and find revenge or whatever, but that's counter-productive. Growth is to be able to deal with the damage it inflicts on you, grow resistant to it and move on to do what's best for yourself (which of course can sometimes be to remove yourself from the situation).

I.e. if you want to get chicks, you got to talk to them, probably embarrass yourself at first, not dwell on oh how unfair it all is, but learn from the experience and try again.

A healthy lifestyle is kinda essential. You will feel shit if your body isn't feeling good.

I hope it becomes apparent that you'll need to know your goals clearly and how you plan to get to them, otherwise you'll be lost. This should be concise, clear and have some sort of timeline. Break big goals into some sub-goals that you want to reach in the near future.

Obviously there are many paths to stuff like 'overthinking', yoga, psychotherapy, changing lifestyle etc. So you gotta try what works for you, and be honest with yourself before deciding something isn't working (Did you really try your best?)

Live healthy, love yourself and grow.

For some it's MMA, for others, like me, it's yoga that clears the head and gets rid of any built up anger or other negative emotions. Everyone needs some kind of avenue to get rid of all the shit in their minds, so you can go out again and continue growing, instead of dragging along the dirt exhausted.

As a last statement, for anyone spending most of their time idling on the couch consuming shit, of course that life isn't improving.>>148986

LORAZEPAM, is it big boy benzo?

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- Fri, 22 May 2020 07:16:45 EST dmfizLL4 No.148962
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Hi hope im not breaking any rules here, just got a couple of inquiries:

I've had IV midazolam a couple of times and I loved it, now I have a steady supply of lorazepam, what does /benz/ think of this chemical?

Pros/cons and some subjective info is appreciated.
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Martin Wevingbury - Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:28:27 EST Q5THi1Bb No.149133 Reply
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>>149131
OP here, I've taken it so I could sleep without getting anxiety over my cockroach infested building, for the record I keep my house very clean, its a general problem among neighbours. I was incredibly neurotic when I found one in my cereal box at night and it was the last thing I had to eat, so I downed half a bottle of wine with a mg of loraz and a joint to the face and slept like a baby.

I think >>149132 is probably right, it serves its purpose, but it didnt potentiate tramadol the slightest, dosing massively is ineffective, just a bit to offset the seizure risk is enough, THAT BEING SAID ITS AN EXTREMELY AMNESIAC DRUG.
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Archie Banningperk - Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:39:40 EST fslTYm4+ No.149144 Reply
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>>149132
Yeah, I just want some affordable drug that helps me to get over social situations that cause problems with my studies. If I want to get fucked up I can always just buy some other drugs.
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Hamilton Brimbleput - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 15:32:47 EST Q5THi1Bb No.149273 Reply
UPDATE: lorazepam KILLS tramadols energetic side completely, I was pacing hard around my house and suddenly I felt the loraz kick in and its like all the opiate effects came back

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