BWB: Chill Vibes for Summer 2019, Pt. 1 View Thread Reply Hide Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:53:53 EST I6YS7H0F No.146252 File: 1561578833504.jpg -(42296B / 41.30KB, 680x408) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Fellow posters, the previous BWB is no longer bumping. As such, here is the next installment of the thread dedicated to being on benzos, bumping while benz’d, and other benzodiazepine-related topics and questions. 20mg diazepam, 0.5mg alprazolam, and 100mg tramadol to kick shit off! 282 posts and 84 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Jenny Clacklegold - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 22:45:46 EST twWwX5ey No.147117 Reply 1568429146639.jpg -(745464B / 727.99KB, 1080x1080) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. just took 2mg etiz. must be 9 months since I last used. I missed this feeling. >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:36:12 EST qkzTPNFj No.147121 Reply >>146252>Benzos>Opi>Homework>Relational stress with my wifeSometimes talking through a problem does not work. Sometimes our best efforts fall flat. But, maladaptive coping mechanisms being fully recognized, I still have benzos... and opioids. And so 10mg diazepam, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, 50mg tapentadol, 50mg DPH, 5g red vein kratom tea(the last of a 30g bag I bought in mid-summer), and some chamomile tea. Keeping things nice and light is probably for the best, but another 10mg diazepam may come into the picture later. Let's hope not. I hope everyone enjoys their weekend. >> William Ficklestore - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:58:20 EST sgH80cUy No.147135 Reply 2mg xanax Feeling quite jolly and feeling good.
>> Jenny Clacklegold - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 22:45:46 EST twWwX5ey No.147117 Reply 1568429146639.jpg -(745464B / 727.99KB, 1080x1080) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. just took 2mg etiz. must be 9 months since I last used. I missed this feeling.
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:36:12 EST qkzTPNFj No.147121 Reply >>146252>Benzos>Opi>Homework>Relational stress with my wifeSometimes talking through a problem does not work. Sometimes our best efforts fall flat. But, maladaptive coping mechanisms being fully recognized, I still have benzos... and opioids. And so 10mg diazepam, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, 50mg tapentadol, 50mg DPH, 5g red vein kratom tea(the last of a 30g bag I bought in mid-summer), and some chamomile tea. Keeping things nice and light is probably for the best, but another 10mg diazepam may come into the picture later. Let's hope not. I hope everyone enjoys their weekend.
>> William Ficklestore - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:58:20 EST sgH80cUy No.147135 Reply 2mg xanax Feeling quite jolly and feeling good.
Mr Shoe Relapses HARD View Thread Reply Hide Mr Shoe - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:19:41 EST 3+mnFvhZ No.147127 File: 1568470781359.jpg -(105012B / 102.55KB, 850x567) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. If you were around here on /BENZ/ back in maybe 2012-15 you may have caught wind of my ID, as well as another user IDGAF. We were both the 'wreck heads' of BENZ, myself posting videos where I'd be taking 200mg of diazepam in one sitting, or agreeing to drop 30mg of xanax (not proud of that). Those were truly dark dark times, days that when they were unfolding, deep down I'd wish they would dissipate forever, never to return. Eventually, they did. Around mid 2017 I started to meditate and workout.. that is after a full on seizure from withdrawing from huge benzo doses and alcohol consumption. I managed to finally taper down and get off of these evil pills for good. As soon as I started to confront my anxiety and life situations head-on, without crutches, things began to improve beyond belief. I managed to start several businesses with success, I held relationships, my physique started to become way above average for a male in his late 20s. Life was good and it was getting better with each month. Since leaving benzodiazepines behind, I have always advocated at how dangerous they are. Even if prescribed by a doctor I determine them to be a hindrance to ones life. Whatever you use them for to cover up and hide, that very thing will soon rise up again, later in your life stronger and gnarlier than ever; that is a given. I currently live in South East Asia and have done for some time. I had to travel to Cambodia for visa reasons to arrange certain documents and what not. Things turned out very badly for me, and I had to travel alone away from my GF. I was stuck in a foreign country, denied access back to where my 'home' was, with my cancelled ATM card, 2 sets of clothing and a smile strung on my face to deal with the entire thing. It's 35 degrees C and I had jeans and a shirt on to paint you a picture. Basically I had to travel to a different location in Cambodia to fly out to Malaysia, to head back to where my home was without immigration issues; fine! Easy... However, Before I departed for the airport, for whatever reason I bought a 10 strip if diazepam and clonazepam from a pharmacy for around $2.20. FUCK! I knew what I was doing, the whole ordeal had gotten to me, but why was I committing to this, I know exactly where this path leads, it doesn't lead anywhere pleasant in any way shape or form. Fast forward to the second location in Cambodia, I get sold coke from a tuktuk dude, or at least I thought it was coke. However I had downed 5 Long Islands and a few beers, plus a fair few of the benzos beforehand, whatever I railed up my nose could have been this or that. I gummed some, and I didn't get a distinct 'coke taste' from it, however I was super faded so who knows. I woke up on my hotel floor and had to head for my plane out of Cambodia at 6:30am to Malaysia. I ended up being stuck in Kuala Lumpur for 24 hours, and then returned home. Now I am home, I find myself sourcing diazpepam again... I have fully relapsed. I am under NO ILLUSION. I know exactly where these pills take you. Even if you think you can handle them, if you consider yourself strong minded and whatever else - nope, if you take them on a regular basis you will before long become a slave to them physically, mentally or both. Not sure why I posted this, but it is what it is. Welcome back to /BENZ/ I guess. >> Fucking Sillerspear - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:55:32 EST gcGq43ls No.147133 Reply 1568490932020.jpg -(84076B / 82.11KB, 759x573) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147127Lol who gives a fuck dude buy a blog >> Martha Nimmerway - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:20:40 EST QRfIvdm+ No.147134 Reply I remember you!
>> Fucking Sillerspear - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:55:32 EST gcGq43ls No.147133 Reply 1568490932020.jpg -(84076B / 82.11KB, 759x573) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147127Lol who gives a fuck dude buy a blog
Lyrica View Thread Reply Hide Betsy Nennerman - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:55:09 EST MDf9rpQf No.147124 File: 1568465709315.jpg -(59177B / 57.79KB, 1280x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does anybody have a rough equivalence ratio between Lyrica (Pregabalin) and benzos (klonopin specifically)? I know they are totally different drugs but i'm withdrawing from benzos and i need to know how much pregabalin to take. Thanks 2 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Betsy Nennerman - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:25:50 EST MDf9rpQf No.147130 Reply >>147125If it's anything like phenibut wd i believe you, shit was not good, however the doc and medical articles online say lyrica is safer and less addictive, user reports vary a lot, some say no wd, others say hellish and worse than benzos... anyways i'm only taking 2x25mg at night to help me sleep and 1x25mg in the morning when i inevitably wake too early to try and sleep a bit more and stave off bennzo wd symptoms.Doing this i passed from 2mg per night to 1mg per night fairly painlessly for now. >>147129Yeah i know, seeems to be similar to phenibut, but at the lower doses like the ones i'm taking i don't really feel much, but it does stave off the bennzo wd symptoms quite nicely >> Heroin - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:29:26 EST snnmavxf No.147131 Reply 1568478566926.jpg -(21774B / 21.26KB, 209x442) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147129Maybe not if you take pansy 400mg doses you fucking cunt. How dare you come onto this forum thinking you're hot shot advertising you dont experience horrible withdrawals ? I took 9-1500mg every 12-16 hours daily for 3-4 weeks with a very uncomfortable turkey withdrawal. Even tapering down at that point isnt attractive but less harsh than cold turkey ... Every minute felt like 5 minutes because the pain is so bad and unique. But I recommend L-theanin or ashwaghanda for withdrawals since they work on GABA receptors as well and arent addictive. L-theanin kills anxiety very effectively and you can get it on any health supplement shop. Can probably get some "high" on it .. >> Hugh Picklebury - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:05:57 EST gACrxJp9 No.147132 Reply 1568487957286.png -(73166B / 71.45KB, 493x357) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147131
>> Betsy Nennerman - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:25:50 EST MDf9rpQf No.147130 Reply >>147125If it's anything like phenibut wd i believe you, shit was not good, however the doc and medical articles online say lyrica is safer and less addictive, user reports vary a lot, some say no wd, others say hellish and worse than benzos... anyways i'm only taking 2x25mg at night to help me sleep and 1x25mg in the morning when i inevitably wake too early to try and sleep a bit more and stave off bennzo wd symptoms.Doing this i passed from 2mg per night to 1mg per night fairly painlessly for now. >>147129Yeah i know, seeems to be similar to phenibut, but at the lower doses like the ones i'm taking i don't really feel much, but it does stave off the bennzo wd symptoms quite nicely
>> Heroin - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:29:26 EST snnmavxf No.147131 Reply 1568478566926.jpg -(21774B / 21.26KB, 209x442) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147129Maybe not if you take pansy 400mg doses you fucking cunt. How dare you come onto this forum thinking you're hot shot advertising you dont experience horrible withdrawals ? I took 9-1500mg every 12-16 hours daily for 3-4 weeks with a very uncomfortable turkey withdrawal. Even tapering down at that point isnt attractive but less harsh than cold turkey ... Every minute felt like 5 minutes because the pain is so bad and unique. But I recommend L-theanin or ashwaghanda for withdrawals since they work on GABA receptors as well and arent addictive. L-theanin kills anxiety very effectively and you can get it on any health supplement shop. Can probably get some "high" on it ..
>> Hugh Picklebury - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:05:57 EST gACrxJp9 No.147132 Reply 1568487957286.png -(73166B / 71.45KB, 493x357) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147131
Diclaz vs clonazolam View Thread Reply Hide Cedric Fandock - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:32:14 EST PvBCgkzm No.147115 File: 1568403134769.jpg -(151011B / 147.47KB, 630x817) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How is Diclazepam vs colanzolam? Had some clonaz, it was nice but it was hard to find a sweet spot with it. You either weren’t high enough or you were blacked out and didn’t remember anything the next day. Some place I used upped the price for clonaz and I’m looking at diclaz now. Would it be better for me to go with that instead? >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:05:13 EST hyPyNb1G No.147120 Reply >>147115Diclazepam has a much broader range of uses than clonazolam. Objectively, one could still black out with and become addicted to diclazepam. The drug is great for long-lasting anxiety and for tapering. But, diclazepam is almost never talked about in recreational settings as it is extremely similar to lorazepam (Ativan) and lorazepam is even one of diclazepam’s active metabolites. Outside of the fact that both diclazepam and clonazolam are benzodiazepines their individual safety profile, therapeutic index, duration, and dosage curve are nothing alike. >> Sidney Hiddleridge - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:16:37 EST 2fOKw+fS No.147126 Reply >>147120Ah, I see. I’m looking for something more on the recreational side. How is Flubromazolam in comparison to clonaz? Or just your opinion on it in general. Heard mixed things but overall seems like a pretty solid recreational value. Unfortunately I can’t just buy fucking etiz because it’s illegal here because otherwise I’d have done it a long time ago. >> Mr Shoe - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:21:02 EST 3+mnFvhZ No.147128 Reply >>147115The main thing you need to keep in mind with Clonazepam is that it's half life is 40 or so hours, which is super long, especially considering it takes 4-5 half lives for a substance to leave your body
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:05:13 EST hyPyNb1G No.147120 Reply >>147115Diclazepam has a much broader range of uses than clonazolam. Objectively, one could still black out with and become addicted to diclazepam. The drug is great for long-lasting anxiety and for tapering. But, diclazepam is almost never talked about in recreational settings as it is extremely similar to lorazepam (Ativan) and lorazepam is even one of diclazepam’s active metabolites. Outside of the fact that both diclazepam and clonazolam are benzodiazepines their individual safety profile, therapeutic index, duration, and dosage curve are nothing alike.
>> Sidney Hiddleridge - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:16:37 EST 2fOKw+fS No.147126 Reply >>147120Ah, I see. I’m looking for something more on the recreational side. How is Flubromazolam in comparison to clonaz? Or just your opinion on it in general. Heard mixed things but overall seems like a pretty solid recreational value. Unfortunately I can’t just buy fucking etiz because it’s illegal here because otherwise I’d have done it a long time ago.
>> Mr Shoe - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:21:02 EST 3+mnFvhZ No.147128 Reply >>147115The main thing you need to keep in mind with Clonazepam is that it's half life is 40 or so hours, which is super long, especially considering it takes 4-5 half lives for a substance to leave your body
BWGQ: Bump with Gabaergic Questions View Thread Reply Hide Chan - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 01:31:59 EST Jlot+jMU No.147045 File: 1568007119242.png -(160119B / 156.37KB, 405x365) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Post any questions regarding Benzodiazepines or Gabaergic chemicals and I will answer. I thought it would be nice to give back, I will do my utmost to be your personal anxiolytic medication.Worried you have taken too much?Substance interactions?Health concerns?Taper advice?For both therapeutic and recreational information please first see if your questions can be sufficiently answered by:Professor C. Heather Ashton - Benzodiazepines: How they work & How to withdraw (aka The Ashton Manual)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsjhqdE7-6A 20 posts and 3 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Hugh Picklebury - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 23:03:49 EST gACrxJp9 No.147119 Reply >>147118*feeling like thisGeneral message to everyone here, also remember this is a public space and try to ask yourself does this identify me? Am i comfortable posting something medical? Try to keep names if places out of this just keep safe gius but its so nice everyones helping one another here >> Fucking Sittingshit - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:03:30 EST 7eVUah6R No.147122 Reply 1568441010669.jpg -(213807B / 208.80KB, 1023x462) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>14704512 years on a solid diet of 1 to 2mg a day of pharma Alprazolam, heavy drinking.How fucked am I if I need to try and like, become a functional person. >> Chan - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:28:30 EST Jlot+jMU No.147123 Reply >>147122>Disclaimer: totally unofficial/non-professional medical advice from a nobody>It is of the utmost importance to seek professional advice with these chemicalsNot much. Explain the duration, amount and consistency of both the Alprazolam and alcohol to a trained professional and get on to a taper program. I assume the last sentence was implying you wanted off both of these substances. The difficult part will be in essence re-integrating your mind into the world with out these substances. This is helped with the taper but finding other activities even mundane one's will help you. Just have or gain the willpower to challenge events sober and not resort to either substance. If it is underlying issue seek some form of counseling for it. Weather that is talking to psychiatrist or a friend. As soon as you realize your functional then you have already become functional. I hope I have helped.
>> Hugh Picklebury - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 23:03:49 EST gACrxJp9 No.147119 Reply >>147118*feeling like thisGeneral message to everyone here, also remember this is a public space and try to ask yourself does this identify me? Am i comfortable posting something medical? Try to keep names if places out of this just keep safe gius but its so nice everyones helping one another here
>> Fucking Sittingshit - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:03:30 EST 7eVUah6R No.147122 Reply 1568441010669.jpg -(213807B / 208.80KB, 1023x462) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>14704512 years on a solid diet of 1 to 2mg a day of pharma Alprazolam, heavy drinking.How fucked am I if I need to try and like, become a functional person.
>> Chan - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:28:30 EST Jlot+jMU No.147123 Reply >>147122>Disclaimer: totally unofficial/non-professional medical advice from a nobody>It is of the utmost importance to seek professional advice with these chemicalsNot much. Explain the duration, amount and consistency of both the Alprazolam and alcohol to a trained professional and get on to a taper program. I assume the last sentence was implying you wanted off both of these substances. The difficult part will be in essence re-integrating your mind into the world with out these substances. This is helped with the taper but finding other activities even mundane one's will help you. Just have or gain the willpower to challenge events sober and not resort to either substance. If it is underlying issue seek some form of counseling for it. Weather that is talking to psychiatrist or a friend. As soon as you realize your functional then you have already become functional. I hope I have helped.
Best benzo for sex View Thread Reply Hide John Nashville - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 05:05:14 EST m07omdiI No.147075 File: 1568192714781.png -(383777B / 374.78KB, 536x412) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What benzos increases libido the most / is most suitable for sex? 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Fanny Puddlekedge - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 12:16:10 EST 9V8lxzzs No.147098 Reply >>147089Serax (oxazepam) is terrible, even if you got the 30mg pills, they take forever to kick in and last very shortly, it's the worst Rx benzo. Even Clobazam is better for anxiety.120mg Oxazepam has nothing on 20mg diazepam, if you want some sort of equivalency. >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:13:13 EST qkzTPNFj No.147104 Reply >>147089Etizolam is much more potent and has many desirable effects. The drug kicks in rather quickly and has a duration similar to alprazolam. Oxazepam is one of those benzos that even on paper sounds like shit. >> BenzoBob - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:15:06 EST MUSU/fIQ No.147114 Reply 1568391306362.jpg -(33139B / 32.36KB, 852x480) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How much muscle relaxation do you get from Etizolam? I imagine its better than xanax but also weaker than say Rivotril. Also using 2 benzos at once not a good idea or can it synergise well
>> Fanny Puddlekedge - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 12:16:10 EST 9V8lxzzs No.147098 Reply >>147089Serax (oxazepam) is terrible, even if you got the 30mg pills, they take forever to kick in and last very shortly, it's the worst Rx benzo. Even Clobazam is better for anxiety.120mg Oxazepam has nothing on 20mg diazepam, if you want some sort of equivalency.
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:13:13 EST qkzTPNFj No.147104 Reply >>147089Etizolam is much more potent and has many desirable effects. The drug kicks in rather quickly and has a duration similar to alprazolam. Oxazepam is one of those benzos that even on paper sounds like shit.
>> BenzoBob - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:15:06 EST MUSU/fIQ No.147114 Reply 1568391306362.jpg -(33139B / 32.36KB, 852x480) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How much muscle relaxation do you get from Etizolam? I imagine its better than xanax but also weaker than say Rivotril. Also using 2 benzos at once not a good idea or can it synergise well
Eti View Thread Reply Hide Isabella Harringwill - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:14:40 EST XUvhiudI No.147084 File: 1568240080259.jpg -(45847B / 44.77KB, 510x528) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does etizolam show up on drug tests? I heard yes or no. I think it’s a false positive thing where popping a little gives you a faint line and popping a lot gives you a fail. I have some benzo piss tests at my house I could try some other brands too. I’m not sure if it takes a lot to cause a false positive or if it’s like benzos where it shows up for a few days and takes awhile to get out What about the cpam I see people talking about 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 02:21:59 EST qkzTPNFj No.147107 Reply >>147105People who do not have insurance are able to receive government aid in order to receive healthcare for both physical and psychological problems.For the U.S. the most commonly Rx'd benzos are as follows in descending order: alprazolam (Xanax), lorazepam (Ativan), clonazepam (Klonopin), and diazepam (Valium). All of the "big four" benzos have generics and at least two of them (but maybe all four) have been placed on the Essential Medicines list by the World Health Organization (WHO). While doctors have been moving away from prescribing opioids and benzodiazepines there are still doctors who understand some patients/clients respond better to one class of drugs versus another. Many doctors are still prescribing benzos. >SuggestionSeek community mental health so you do not have to pay for therapy sessions, can easily establish medication appointments with a psychiatrist, and pay little to nothing for medication.>>147106Other benzos have various active metabolites besides the actual drug/chemical in its original state prior to being processed and metabolized by the body. Just because diazepam will metabolize into nordiazepam, oxazepam, and temazepam does not mean someone with a benzo script will fail their UA simply for having benzos present.This is much different than OP's statement. Etizolam in most cases will flag for benzos and can then be sent off for lab testing. Etizolam does not have active metabolites that are technically prescribed/allowed for UAs unless the test is general and someone already has a benzo script. >> Fucking Dizzlecocke - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:04:15 EST XUvhiudI No.147109 Reply >>147107Does that mean I have to submit tax documents and shit to the government? That’s why I couldn’t get healthcare I don’t have any of those or anything to prove incomeIs there like specific doctors that are cheap because government funding the trips to the doctors are cheap? >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 11:41:07 EST qkzTPNFj No.147113 Reply >>147109You, or a case worker, will need to find a means of obtaining your proof of income documentation. Having W-2 forms from current/prior work should suffice, but if you’ve never worked you wouldn’t have a typical set of W-2s lying around. If you’ve never had employment then programs exist to to assist you. Also, looking into Medicaid to help defer the cost of sessions, appointments, transportation, medication, etc. could have a massive benefit for daily life. >Specific doctors that are cheapIn many community mental health agencies therapists/counselors-in-training (CITs) cannot bill for therapy unless it is through Medicaid. Even then, the therapist/CIT does not directly make money off of you. Therapists/CITs may be working toward licensure and have completed their degree or are still in graduate school for their M.A., M.S., PsyD, or PhD. Regardless, it is highly recommended to have a mental health therapist for talk therapy in addition to having a psychiatrist (M.D.) or nurse specializing in mental health to assist with medications. Depending on characteristics of your area and how accessible mental health assistance is there is also a strong possibility for your psychiatrist and therapist to be in the same building.A vast majority of community mental health agencies will have sliding scale rates that are solely based on income level. Again, having Medicaid could help with the bulk of the cost. Still, you will have to seek all of this information, which takes a fair amount of time. For any reason if you cannot properly gather all of your information or are unable to research mental health therapists in your area a case worker (CSS) could provide a wealth of support. CSSs actually bring in the most money to the field, but make the least amount of money. Many clients I have seen over the past 2+ years often have a CSS, master’s or doctoral level clinician, a psychiatrist for assessment of symptoms and medication, and a nurse specializing in mental health for assistance/needs in between psychiatric appointments.
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 02:21:59 EST qkzTPNFj No.147107 Reply >>147105People who do not have insurance are able to receive government aid in order to receive healthcare for both physical and psychological problems.For the U.S. the most commonly Rx'd benzos are as follows in descending order: alprazolam (Xanax), lorazepam (Ativan), clonazepam (Klonopin), and diazepam (Valium). All of the "big four" benzos have generics and at least two of them (but maybe all four) have been placed on the Essential Medicines list by the World Health Organization (WHO). While doctors have been moving away from prescribing opioids and benzodiazepines there are still doctors who understand some patients/clients respond better to one class of drugs versus another. Many doctors are still prescribing benzos. >SuggestionSeek community mental health so you do not have to pay for therapy sessions, can easily establish medication appointments with a psychiatrist, and pay little to nothing for medication.>>147106Other benzos have various active metabolites besides the actual drug/chemical in its original state prior to being processed and metabolized by the body. Just because diazepam will metabolize into nordiazepam, oxazepam, and temazepam does not mean someone with a benzo script will fail their UA simply for having benzos present.This is much different than OP's statement. Etizolam in most cases will flag for benzos and can then be sent off for lab testing. Etizolam does not have active metabolites that are technically prescribed/allowed for UAs unless the test is general and someone already has a benzo script.
>> Fucking Dizzlecocke - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:04:15 EST XUvhiudI No.147109 Reply >>147107Does that mean I have to submit tax documents and shit to the government? That’s why I couldn’t get healthcare I don’t have any of those or anything to prove incomeIs there like specific doctors that are cheap because government funding the trips to the doctors are cheap?
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 11:41:07 EST qkzTPNFj No.147113 Reply >>147109You, or a case worker, will need to find a means of obtaining your proof of income documentation. Having W-2 forms from current/prior work should suffice, but if you’ve never worked you wouldn’t have a typical set of W-2s lying around. If you’ve never had employment then programs exist to to assist you. Also, looking into Medicaid to help defer the cost of sessions, appointments, transportation, medication, etc. could have a massive benefit for daily life. >Specific doctors that are cheapIn many community mental health agencies therapists/counselors-in-training (CITs) cannot bill for therapy unless it is through Medicaid. Even then, the therapist/CIT does not directly make money off of you. Therapists/CITs may be working toward licensure and have completed their degree or are still in graduate school for their M.A., M.S., PsyD, or PhD. Regardless, it is highly recommended to have a mental health therapist for talk therapy in addition to having a psychiatrist (M.D.) or nurse specializing in mental health to assist with medications. Depending on characteristics of your area and how accessible mental health assistance is there is also a strong possibility for your psychiatrist and therapist to be in the same building.A vast majority of community mental health agencies will have sliding scale rates that are solely based on income level. Again, having Medicaid could help with the bulk of the cost. Still, you will have to seek all of this information, which takes a fair amount of time. For any reason if you cannot properly gather all of your information or are unable to research mental health therapists in your area a case worker (CSS) could provide a wealth of support. CSSs actually bring in the most money to the field, but make the least amount of money. Many clients I have seen over the past 2+ years often have a CSS, master’s or doctoral level clinician, a psychiatrist for assessment of symptoms and medication, and a nurse specializing in mental health for assistance/needs in between psychiatric appointments.
Tripping on Ambien View Thread Reply Hide Cedric Nubberbury - Fri, 23 Aug 2019 15:58:24 EST 1lQnYdH3 No.146934 File: 1566590304093.jpg -(12490B / 12.20KB, 280x300) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Is it just me or is ambien the trippiest benzo? Its sort of gives you a psychedlic experience, while i dont exactly full on trip like see patterns and weird shit and stuff it still does some weird thing, for example if im watching a movie in pitch dark while on ambien i get the sensation that im in a movie theatre and there are people watching the movie with me, theres commotion in the background but i dont hear voices or anything, its like walking down a crowded place but without the people and not focusing on what everyone is saying, not only that but when i close my eyes i began to have a trip in my imagination, sort of like im dreaming but awake, i start imagining all types of trippy shit. So what causes this specific benzo to act this way? Are there other benzo's like them? or are your experienciees different then mine? id love to kno.w 7 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Isabella Wublingchane - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 20:14:37 EST qCwoBzWk No.147024 Reply 1567642477633.png -(179008B / 174.81KB, 335x335) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. That's Z's for ya. I've taken Zopiclone before at 7.5mg and 15mg doses and they've just straight knocked me out in about 20 minutes. The time just before losing consciousness has been the most intensely trippy and relaxed state I've ever been in. Then it's all about the dreams, with the most vivid, colourful, intense and well structured narratives you couldn't believe.The metallic taste I get in my mouth the entire next day really doesn't make it worth it though. They're only good as a last resort to knock you out if you really can't sleep. I woudn't consider trying to stay awake on them, some of these stories sound wild. >> Eliza Brenderhedge - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:46:29 EST gACrxJp9 No.147110 Reply >>147024its funny, zopiclone has never done anything to me other than the metalic taste - doesnt even make me feel drowsy and i still end up staying awake late on it even at the exact same doses you took.Hmm >> Archie Brunkinfield - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:11:58 EST iLlEpcOH No.147112 Reply I had Ambien a couple times and had a lot of memory loss and doing weird shit, putting on different clothes, writing random shit that didnt make any sense, that sort of thing but now i got zopiclone and its neat, a lot less trippy and more just sedating, mixed with alcohol 15mg felt like maybe 10-20mg diazTaste is so bad though, its not even really metallic, it's just like generic pill taste, like a xanax got stuck in my throat, drinking water helps for like a minute, eating helps a bit more but i usually have zero appetite
>> Isabella Wublingchane - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 20:14:37 EST qCwoBzWk No.147024 Reply 1567642477633.png -(179008B / 174.81KB, 335x335) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. That's Z's for ya. I've taken Zopiclone before at 7.5mg and 15mg doses and they've just straight knocked me out in about 20 minutes. The time just before losing consciousness has been the most intensely trippy and relaxed state I've ever been in. Then it's all about the dreams, with the most vivid, colourful, intense and well structured narratives you couldn't believe.The metallic taste I get in my mouth the entire next day really doesn't make it worth it though. They're only good as a last resort to knock you out if you really can't sleep. I woudn't consider trying to stay awake on them, some of these stories sound wild.
>> Eliza Brenderhedge - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:46:29 EST gACrxJp9 No.147110 Reply >>147024its funny, zopiclone has never done anything to me other than the metalic taste - doesnt even make me feel drowsy and i still end up staying awake late on it even at the exact same doses you took.Hmm
>> Archie Brunkinfield - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:11:58 EST iLlEpcOH No.147112 Reply I had Ambien a couple times and had a lot of memory loss and doing weird shit, putting on different clothes, writing random shit that didnt make any sense, that sort of thing but now i got zopiclone and its neat, a lot less trippy and more just sedating, mixed with alcohol 15mg felt like maybe 10-20mg diazTaste is so bad though, its not even really metallic, it's just like generic pill taste, like a xanax got stuck in my throat, drinking water helps for like a minute, eating helps a bit more but i usually have zero appetite
First time taking triazolam, and benzos in general View Thread Reply Hide Dr. Rieux - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 02:28:21 EST FzeHGFLf No.147035 File: 1567837701738.jpg -(10376B / 10.13KB, 238x179) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hey guys, newfag here.I've never taken benzos before in my life, and I was just prescribed some Halcion (Triazolam) .25mg. I took just one pill about 30 minutes ago, and feel pretty dizzy/heavy. I'm thinking of taking another for .5mg to get a better effect. Does anyone have any experience with halcion, and is .5mg safe for a first timer? 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Dr. Rieux - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 04:47:48 EST FzeHGFLf No.147040 Reply If I take .25 triazolam and drink a few beers, will I die? >> Edward Turveyfield - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 18:43:35 EST m6zqruw6 No.147056 Reply >>147040no but you're being dumb >> Fanny Puddlekedge - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 12:19:42 EST 9V8lxzzs No.147100 Reply >>147035Triazolam is awesome, I miss the days I was able to buy some from a now dead free-for-all pharmacy at the other end of the earth. It was brand name too, man that stuff feels great. But I was swimming in Rx benzos and RC benzos at the time, likely didn't enjoy them enough, although 1mg at once is wooooooOooooof euphoric.
>> Dr. Rieux - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 04:47:48 EST FzeHGFLf No.147040 Reply If I take .25 triazolam and drink a few beers, will I die?
>> Edward Turveyfield - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 18:43:35 EST m6zqruw6 No.147056 Reply >>147040no but you're being dumb
>> Fanny Puddlekedge - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 12:19:42 EST 9V8lxzzs No.147100 Reply >>147035Triazolam is awesome, I miss the days I was able to buy some from a now dead free-for-all pharmacy at the other end of the earth. It was brand name too, man that stuff feels great. But I was swimming in Rx benzos and RC benzos at the time, likely didn't enjoy them enough, although 1mg at once is wooooooOooooof euphoric.
Somadril (Carisoprodol) View Thread Reply Hide SomaGuru - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:59:47 EST wonTsFoe No.147071 File: 1568181587532.png -(160514B / 156.75KB, 539x440) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Is this substance just as, or less "addictive" and habit forming as the weaker benzos? if you was to scale the filthiness of the drug would it be more or less filthy than say Oxazepam? Is it only a relaxant or does it have pain relief qualities too. Also is it good combo to take with speed? any particular good combo? what about taking it together with anti psychotics >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:36:30 EST qkzTPNFj No.147073 Reply >>147071Carisoprodol is a rather unusual muscle relaxant as it works similarly to the action of barbiturates. As such, carisoprodol acts on GABA-a (which, is the same receptor as benzodiazepines). Baclofen acts on GABA-b. Outside of those two muscle relaxers I cannot think of any off of the top of my head with specific a GABAergic mechanism of action. By in large, carisoprodol is much more difficult to obtain a script in current times than say 20 years ago. Many muscle relaxers are prescribed in favor for a higher safety profile, decreased likelihood of abuse, and relatively minimal side-effects. Cyclobenzaprine and tizanadine are probably the two most common muscle relaxers in the U.S.>Is this substance just as, or less "addictive" and habit forming... ?Objectively, Soma has a host of potentially addictive properties. I would say the drug is relatively on par for addiction potential as mainstream intermediate and long-lasting benzos. >OxazepamOxazepam is one of the few benzos I wanted to try for several years, but was ultimately told it is a garbage benzo. I cannot give specific feedback on oxazepam, but I have experience with diazepam, clonazepam, alprazolam, lorazepam, diclazepam, and etizolam as well as other muscle relaxers and z-drugs (and gabapentin). >Does it have other pain relief qualities tooI wouldn't say carisoprodol could replace a decent opiate (e.g. hydrocodone), but the drug is definitely the most desired muscle relaxer for recreational purposes. As one's muscles do relax a decrease in pain can happen but we aren't talking about a drug that directly affects opioid receptors.>Good combo to take with speed?I'm not a fan of stimulants, but I don't see why comibing Soma with speed/amphetamines would be inherently bad. Many people use caffeine or prescription stimulants to combat the sedation of muscle relaxers. >Together with anti-psychoticsSleep or extreme grogginess should be expected.
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:36:30 EST qkzTPNFj No.147073 Reply >>147071Carisoprodol is a rather unusual muscle relaxant as it works similarly to the action of barbiturates. As such, carisoprodol acts on GABA-a (which, is the same receptor as benzodiazepines). Baclofen acts on GABA-b. Outside of those two muscle relaxers I cannot think of any off of the top of my head with specific a GABAergic mechanism of action. By in large, carisoprodol is much more difficult to obtain a script in current times than say 20 years ago. Many muscle relaxers are prescribed in favor for a higher safety profile, decreased likelihood of abuse, and relatively minimal side-effects. Cyclobenzaprine and tizanadine are probably the two most common muscle relaxers in the U.S.>Is this substance just as, or less "addictive" and habit forming... ?Objectively, Soma has a host of potentially addictive properties. I would say the drug is relatively on par for addiction potential as mainstream intermediate and long-lasting benzos. >OxazepamOxazepam is one of the few benzos I wanted to try for several years, but was ultimately told it is a garbage benzo. I cannot give specific feedback on oxazepam, but I have experience with diazepam, clonazepam, alprazolam, lorazepam, diclazepam, and etizolam as well as other muscle relaxers and z-drugs (and gabapentin). >Does it have other pain relief qualities tooI wouldn't say carisoprodol could replace a decent opiate (e.g. hydrocodone), but the drug is definitely the most desired muscle relaxer for recreational purposes. As one's muscles do relax a decrease in pain can happen but we aren't talking about a drug that directly affects opioid receptors.>Good combo to take with speed?I'm not a fan of stimulants, but I don't see why comibing Soma with speed/amphetamines would be inherently bad. Many people use caffeine or prescription stimulants to combat the sedation of muscle relaxers. >Together with anti-psychoticsSleep or extreme grogginess should be expected.
Multiple Highs per Day. Is it Possible? View Thread Reply Hide Clara Blickleworth - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 12:33:04 EST JZT9mh0p No.147003 File: 1567441984521.jpg -(10123B / 9.89KB, 312x312) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I am creating this thread to ask a question about taking multiple doses of a short-acting benzo and where you can still reach the same level of high twice in a single day.2mg Ativan at 7am produced a euphoric buzz that has lasted to 11:24am at the time of this post. My question is how long would I need to wait in order to achieve that same buzzI received this morning? Is it possible to get the same level of euphoric buzz from benzos twice in one day, or do my neurotransmitters become empty and require 24 hours in order to replenish? 4 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Dextrolord - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 13:35:35 EST 7/VhkBhG No.147026 Reply >>147003Lorazepam ia not a short acting benz it's about the same as clonazepam, you will get more effects if u take more today but to get the full experience wait till tomorrow >> stoned chocobo - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 12:16:43 EST VYDukAm1 No.147041 Reply >>147003for me if i dose a benzo im feeling atleast groggy and out of it for the rest of the day, and idk about getting "high" either just releaved and relaxed. that being said when i had Etizolam and norflurazepam i would redose a couple times on some days. >> Brain - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:15:09 EST qM27bOms No.147072 Reply >>147003Fuck yea its possible. You will just develop tolerance fast and have to take 4mg instead of the normal 2 eventually to receive the same buzz. I feel like this matters on patterns of usage. If you use 2-3 times a week i couldn't see 2 days in a row a big deal. But everday benzo usage will lead to what i stated above if you are really looking for that empty "high"
>> Dextrolord - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 13:35:35 EST 7/VhkBhG No.147026 Reply >>147003Lorazepam ia not a short acting benz it's about the same as clonazepam, you will get more effects if u take more today but to get the full experience wait till tomorrow
>> stoned chocobo - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 12:16:43 EST VYDukAm1 No.147041 Reply >>147003for me if i dose a benzo im feeling atleast groggy and out of it for the rest of the day, and idk about getting "high" either just releaved and relaxed. that being said when i had Etizolam and norflurazepam i would redose a couple times on some days.
>> Brain - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:15:09 EST qM27bOms No.147072 Reply >>147003Fuck yea its possible. You will just develop tolerance fast and have to take 4mg instead of the normal 2 eventually to receive the same buzz. I feel like this matters on patterns of usage. If you use 2-3 times a week i couldn't see 2 days in a row a big deal. But everday benzo usage will lead to what i stated above if you are really looking for that empty "high"
Valerian/passion flower potentiate benzos View Thread Reply Hide Arron Jolly - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 09:58:30 EST KFgLQasJ No.147039 File: 1567864710055.gif -(47347B / 46.24KB, 220x220) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. sup dudes, quick question. can valerian or passionflower be used to potentiate a benzo like vallium, i ask because ive heard that herbal remeidies like valerian hit GABA receptors like a benzo albeit much, much weaker (GABA-A i belive ive read before) so i put two and two togehter and thought that there could be a potentiating synerge between a benzo and a herbal supplement like valerian.Sorry if its a dumb question but i can find much info on this.Thanks dudes. >> dr. m - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 01:08:42 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147043 Reply >>147039yes it works, though it's not extremely noticeable every time >> Albert Fanshaw - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 18:48:27 EST gj4uC5KA No.147058 Reply >>147039Have you watched the Sopranos lately or what? Unless you down a shit ton of it you probably won't get any proper benz like effects, especially if you are already a benzo user and have physical as well as psychological tolerance and much higher expectations from similar drugs, herbs, supplements. Pregabalin and gabapebtin are really good though, both for potentiation and mixing in a bit higher doses. If you can get them, it's really worth trying.
>> dr. m - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 01:08:42 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147043 Reply >>147039yes it works, though it's not extremely noticeable every time
>> Albert Fanshaw - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 18:48:27 EST gj4uC5KA No.147058 Reply >>147039Have you watched the Sopranos lately or what? Unless you down a shit ton of it you probably won't get any proper benz like effects, especially if you are already a benzo user and have physical as well as psychological tolerance and much higher expectations from similar drugs, herbs, supplements. Pregabalin and gabapebtin are really good though, both for potentiation and mixing in a bit higher doses. If you can get them, it's really worth trying.
Legality of RCs View Thread Reply Hide Nell Gomblepick - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 21:43:31 EST 2fOKw+fS No.146881 File: 1566006211676.jpg -(152418B / 148.85KB, 982x717) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I hate to be this guy but I’ve been doing so much research and keep hearing different things. Etizolam has become illegal in many states, such as Florida where I live. I tried tooling up clonazolam as an alternative but heard mixed things about it as well. Are there any legal RC benzos that you’re allowed to purchase/posses in Florida. Lastly, how much trouble would I get in if I bought either of these substances online anyway? I just want my benzos bruh 6 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> stoned chocobo - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 05:24:33 EST MnheNrZQ No.147050 Reply >>146901only did it 3 times. got like a toothpick scraping of it from a friend (1-2mg?) and it felt like an LSD comeup for the first 3 hours which was very wierd then around hour 3-4 got into a more trippy almost dissociative trance. as the day turned into night what was a clear head for the first part turned more and more cloudy and sedating and i probably kept myself up until like 2am but i dont remember it past hour 6. ate alot of food and smoked as i normally do in a benzo daze i bet. >> Fucking Puttingcocke - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 05:28:19 EST MnheNrZQ No.147051 Reply >>146881idk if this is relevenant to you but i got caught with hydrocodone weed and a bag of like 200mg of LABELED Norflurazepam. the cop asked "how much heroin is in this?" then when i explained he said "it has that PAM ending which means its a benzo which means its illegal"charged me with 2 accounts of misdemeanor possetion in the 7th for dros and Norff and a UPM for the weedlater on in court on the document it only showed 1 charge for the possetion 7th and the UPM so maybe they dropped thateitherway had to do rehab for that shit >> Edward Turveyfield - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 18:46:15 EST m6zqruw6 No.147057 Reply 1568069175664.jpg -(99904B / 97.56KB, 720x539) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>146881as far as im aware, etizolam is the only illegal thienobenzo in some states. i'd look specifically at the chem you're ordering though.analogue law (which most people tend to compartmentalize as not being real) only holds true for analogues of schedule 1 and 2 substances though.
>> stoned chocobo - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 05:24:33 EST MnheNrZQ No.147050 Reply >>146901only did it 3 times. got like a toothpick scraping of it from a friend (1-2mg?) and it felt like an LSD comeup for the first 3 hours which was very wierd then around hour 3-4 got into a more trippy almost dissociative trance. as the day turned into night what was a clear head for the first part turned more and more cloudy and sedating and i probably kept myself up until like 2am but i dont remember it past hour 6. ate alot of food and smoked as i normally do in a benzo daze i bet.
>> Fucking Puttingcocke - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 05:28:19 EST MnheNrZQ No.147051 Reply >>146881idk if this is relevenant to you but i got caught with hydrocodone weed and a bag of like 200mg of LABELED Norflurazepam. the cop asked "how much heroin is in this?" then when i explained he said "it has that PAM ending which means its a benzo which means its illegal"charged me with 2 accounts of misdemeanor possetion in the 7th for dros and Norff and a UPM for the weedlater on in court on the document it only showed 1 charge for the possetion 7th and the UPM so maybe they dropped thateitherway had to do rehab for that shit
>> Edward Turveyfield - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 18:46:15 EST m6zqruw6 No.147057 Reply 1568069175664.jpg -(99904B / 97.56KB, 720x539) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>146881as far as im aware, etizolam is the only illegal thienobenzo in some states. i'd look specifically at the chem you're ordering though.analogue law (which most people tend to compartmentalize as not being real) only holds true for analogues of schedule 1 and 2 substances though.
Benzo tolerance View Thread Reply Hide Shakezula !!25vT6KkZ - Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:48:22 EST emqn/+6D No.146968 File: 1566949702711.jpg -(48293B / 47.16KB, 633x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. So 2-3 years ago I would buy a gram of etizolam go through it in about a month withdrawal wait a month and buy another gram. I did this about 6 or 7 times my tolerance was through the fucking roof when I stopped. I have been clean since then and recently I bought some more from a reputable vendor and 7.5mg is barely giving me a buzz. I am pretty sure it isnt underdosed because this guy has a discord filled with benzo fiends and they would call him out. Is my tolerance permanently fucked because it feels so underwhelming. 2 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Mew !4OIIV/81vI - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 01:35:17 EST 3jP2g2zj No.147046 Reply 1568007317031.jpg -(126437B / 123.47KB, 1280x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147044I can't take benzos properly any more, i got 150mg of etiz, took 3mg went to bed. Wokwoke up the next day like normal but the entire bag was licked clean >> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 02:44:48 EST qkzTPNFj No.147049 Reply >>147046>150mg of etiz>entire bag was licked cleanSo, you blackout dosed 150mg etizolam. As you said:>I can't take benzos properly anymoreHave you considered giving your stash to a friend/loved one or locking your shit in a time-sensitive safe? >> Mew !4OIIV/81vI - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 12:07:20 EST l6UQIgsN No.147052 Reply 1568045240756.jpg -(161085B / 157.31KB, 1280x861) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147049I've literally always managed to find it while blacked out. I don't know how i do it.
>> Mew !4OIIV/81vI - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 01:35:17 EST 3jP2g2zj No.147046 Reply 1568007317031.jpg -(126437B / 123.47KB, 1280x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147044I can't take benzos properly any more, i got 150mg of etiz, took 3mg went to bed. Wokwoke up the next day like normal but the entire bag was licked clean
>> Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 02:44:48 EST qkzTPNFj No.147049 Reply >>147046>150mg of etiz>entire bag was licked cleanSo, you blackout dosed 150mg etizolam. As you said:>I can't take benzos properly anymoreHave you considered giving your stash to a friend/loved one or locking your shit in a time-sensitive safe?
>> Mew !4OIIV/81vI - Mon, 09 Sep 2019 12:07:20 EST l6UQIgsN No.147052 Reply 1568045240756.jpg -(161085B / 157.31KB, 1280x861) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>147049I've literally always managed to find it while blacked out. I don't know how i do it.
