Ill go a week without benzos or more and everytime when I get 30 xans I immediately feel like like I need at least one a day which is just a mental thing also I have very bad anxiety. also if I take just a couple xans one day then none the next after being clean I do have rebound anxiety. < sorry if incoherent i'm drunk and on a couple valium. cheers!

>>137712
Sorry, but your OP implies you've done the drug, wouldn't you have an understanding of its recreational potential through your anecdotal experience?

>>137709

Watch out, circlejerk reports that it CAUSES seizures (not just WD, seriously)

My buddy loves the shit but I've never had it. I like triazolam but it's not crazy like cLam etc.

>>137709
Stop feeding this shit. Look at OPs posts. I know y'all mean well but it's only going to get worse if we keep responding to shit like this

>>137718
I came here to ask others who have tried it about their experience. Didn't know nobody here used RC benzos.

>>137722

>look at OP, trying to see if he got a bunk batch or if he just has a natural tolerance

Its my bday and I got court. >.> I wasn't gonna have any benz for my bday but luckily my friend gave me 3 valium one of which I took last night so after court ill be bumping on 20mg diazepam and hopefully be having an alright bday. starting a new job tomorrow and wont have any weed or benz so i'm super nervous.

>2mg Alprazolam
>2 bong loads of Mango Kush

Now off to an early bedtime.... Got a busy-ass day tomorrow of tutoring starting at 7:00am (ah, the joys of teaching students in a time zone 13 hours ahead of me.... good thing I don't have to teach that early EVERY day...)

>>137723
Happy birthday bruh.

> Bumping some etiz

I don't know how much i took but i just kinda finger dipped on the walls of my bag and i Knew immediately that it was a bad idea and tryed to scrape that off. Its' been like 5 mins since and i actually think i took like 10+ mgs like adumbass

>>137723
checking back in the 20mg hit me hard for some reasons and ended up getting a pint of gin so feeling pretty good guys. wentbetterthanexpected.jpg

>>136935
kpin and tlam
(triazolam and clonazepam)

They're about the same for me, the only thing is that Alprazolam knocks me the FUCK out a couple of hours after taking it.... When I pop a couple of pink footballs that my sister gives me from time to time, I have to make sure to either a) set aside some time to take a nap soon after taking it, or b) take it an hour or two before bedtime.

Clonazepam is that happy medium, and it lasts longer too. Also my tolerance hasn't gone up like my tolerance did back when I myself was personally prescribed it a couple of years back.

>>137702
Oops I realized I didn't answer the question at all, sorry, lulz I'm benzed. NB

>>137699
The Ashton Manual (U.K.) indicates that clonazepam and alprazolam are 1:1 equivalent. However, I have run across some oddities online with conversions and from doctors. While some literature indicates that the ratio for clonazepam to alprazolam is 2:1 other literature indicates that it is the opposite! 1mg clonazepam = 0.5mg alprazolam, so 1:2 instead.
In my own experience many doctors in the U.S. consider the long half-life of clonazepam to require much lesser dosing (usually a bid or tid max for anxiety), but due to alprazolam's half-life it isn't uncommon to see RX labels to indicate taking X amount of alprazolam 3-6 times per day or more (technically i can take alprazolam 6x/day as per my RX). But also, some doctors consider clonazepam to be weaker than alprazolam due to the rapid effect of the alprazolam. It is much more common in the U.S. to run across someone with a script for 2mg clonazepam + 1mg alprazolam rather than the opposite.
I am truly not sure why there are such discrepancies. I have also seen discrepancies with the dosage of diazepam. While I consider (and other medical conversations) 10mg diazepam = 1mg alprazolam = 1mg clonazepam, the Ashton Manual indicates that 10mg diazepam = 1mg lorazepam = 0.5mg alprazolam = 0.5mg clonazepam. 10mg diazepam, subjectively, hits much harder than what the Ashton Manual indicates. In fact, the Manual indicates that a 6mg/day alprazolam conversion for diazepam would be 120mg/day. Next to nobody with a 6mg/day alprazolam habit would be awake if they were taking 120mg diazepam/day. One psych that I briefly saw last fall substituted a 1mg clonazepam tid for a 5mg diazepam tid. What the fuck kind of sense does that make? My main psych quickly changed the 5mg diazepam tid to a 10mg diazepam tid as I indicated how weak the 5mg diazepam tablets were in comparison to 1mg clonazepam tablets. My psych agreed that the conversion was closer to 10mg diazepam = 1mg clonazepam.
But this begs the question, if 10mg diazepam = 1mg clonazepam does it logically follow in the Australian 2:1 clonazepam to alprazolam conversion? So 10mg diazepam could equal 0.5mg alprazolam (Ashton Manual), 1mg alprazolam (other medical literature, doctors, etc.), or 2mg …

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imo 1mg of xanax last 6 hours and kpin last 12 so I feel as if thry are equally as strong kpin is just over 12 hours, so basically kpin is half as strong but only cause its releasing so slow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYZkgXadAGg

>i lost my xans of the xans again
>or maybe i just popped all of them
>dam i can't remember man
>all i know is i aint got no xans

>>137531

>Is it a good idea to start taking diazepam regularly so that i'm less anxious?

No, for lots of extremely obvious reasons. No one is immune to addiction.

I don't know how severe your anxiety is but if it is negatively impacting your quality of life, you should have medical guidance but other options include;
Try and dose very intermittently, CBT, DBT, exposure therapy, SSRIS, group therapy, meditation, find God, find Allah, find Waldo but no you can not dose daily and not become physically dependant (not necessarily the same as addicted but still not positive)

>>137531

doot doot doot doot door, doot doot doot doot doot doot door, doot doot doot doot doot dooooooooooooot.........

>>137562
This. Is this board on the other hemisphere of 420chan?

How come we get the summer influx in winter lol. Nb

>>137574
The internet is America

>>137574
straya m8

>>137685
Sorry meant to include that the frequency of dosing is also going to play a large factor.

ie if 15mg is your normal dosage and you dose 5+ times a week I'd be less (but probably still concerned) than if dosing (5-10) 5+ times a week
At either dosage range I think I'd be cautious towards CLam if my dosing were infrequent. Even touching it, let alone dosing in 1mg.

>>137685
3.75* typo nb

>>137686
If I am not mistaken the general conversation for clonazolam to alprazolam is 0.5mg to 2.0mg. If clonazolam is 4x as strong as clonazepam and alprazolam, then OP might not know what he's getting into. 4mg alprazolam or clonazepam is a fucking ridiculous amount for the majority of individuals. The most clonazepam I have ever taken was around 16mg on two occasions. The most alprazolam I have ever taken was 24.5mg with alcohol on one single instance.
1mg clonazolam sounds like a very, truly terrible idea. Even with my tolerance and semi-infrequent dosing I would likely start at 250-500ug tops without anything else (alcohol, opiates, etc.). 1mg is overkill.

>>137684

1mg makes me black out and I end up passing out in weird places like the laundry room. I haven't done the equivalent in etizolam in a while (roughly 8mg), but at least with etiz I would remember what happened.

If you're a small female, then 1mg pellets is horrible. We don't even know your tolerance.

You only need the minimum necessary. If you have no acute tolerance (even with past experience), doses as low as 250-333ug should be just enough for the euphoria without gaining much from a high dose. Just understand that this is NOT a drug you get to redose to feel good again. You've gotta be realistic going in that you may only get crazy booze tier euphoria for an hour or two before passing about for 14 hours in the middle of the day.

1mg pellets are a horrible idea. cLam shouldn't even be soon in 1mg pellets, and you shouldn't have purchased them. Depending on the vendor, they're not even dosed consistently.

You would have been better off doing a SMALLLLLL!!!!!! order of powder. Just never dose the raw powder EVER! EVER!!! It's not an option seriously. Then you take you 10, 20, 30mg of powder or whatever, and make a volumetric solution.

That way you can dose 250ug safely, instead of chopping up 1/4 of a pill and praying it's accurate. Think about that, the entire pill only has 1mg of active drug in 100-200mg+ of total binders. You're breaking off a quarter pill hoping it's accurate enough to only dose you 250ug and not say 350ug. This is somewhat foolish, and I notice people these days buy "pellets" that aren't even true pellets. Some of them appear as fucking loose binder powder in 00 capsules. This shouldn't be acceptable.

The largest I've ever purchased were 700ug cLam pellets from ShyMolecule because his shit was TOP NOTCH and made domestically in a legitimate lab (the pills that is). These came with a line split on the back, so you could dose 350ug relatively accurately. I would not purchase 1mg pellets.

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>>137694
Yikes I was thinking of the comparison in potency to clonazepam (I've read that this is anecdotally closer to 2x ratio although that now seems dubious) Thanks for catching that Katz

Side note, different countries often list clonazepam as either equipotent or twice fold as alprazolam (any of you guys know why this seems to lack consistency across western nations?)

>>137495
Hey, pretty sure I'm the guy you replied to, so let's do this. I'm not too knowledgeable about Renaissance composers, but I have some experience with the compositional style of the time, polyphony in general, and the various genres employed. I've actually written a few motets, but yeah go me woo cool story, anyway

With a name like Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina, I think we all know who the goat is. My other nigga is Josquin des Prez, and while I like Monteverdi, I consider him more baroque era than Renaissance, even though he was clearly a composer between eras, sort of like Beethoven and the classical and romantic eras. I'm not well versed in medieval either, but since you asked, I smoke to Guillaume de Machaut and Hildegard of Bingen on occasion. Stay classy /benz/

>>137468
Alone at home doing things like listening to music, snacking, enjoying the outdoors, playing video games, talking to friends in a game chat, those are the kinds of thints I did on benzos before fucking myself in the ass by joining the military.

Hell, I can't even talk to most people comfortably without being on benzos or drunk, so I'd do that too.

> Take benzos to take away the restlessness I feel in the evenings/nights.
> Take benzos to fall asleep.

I've fucked up, my life is over, im not even taking high dosage but I'm just trapped in this vicious cycle.

>>137683
Life can always turn around. I promise.

>>137683
Hey man, I've seen people turn around their lives from any age. Mind you it always seems to start with the actions of the individual.

I wish you luck in your endeavors, I wish to turn around mine as well. It's easy to get caught in; depression, guilt, etc and turning to these drugs and creating these cycles. Breaking them is the bitch.

>>137678

No idea. It's very common for XR drugs to release half instantly and half XR, but this can also not be the case.

If you're obsessed with achieving mostly IR xanax, try the shot of coca cola for 12+ hours method. I've never tried it on Xanax but I have tons of experience using it for XR opioids.

I highly believe that the coke method will work. It it doesn't, it won't damage the Xanax in any way.

Honestly be happy you got XR. There's a 99%+ chance they're real.

Goodluck on the opi WDs. What's your DoC?

>>137679
Heroin, but hopefully this is it for me. Started wd Friday and am taking as little Subutex as possible as I wanna be off that within the next few days.

>>137167
I'm sitting there just sitting there while all the anxiety melts away with me and the world. Hence the edit of Watching Movies with the Sound Off.

I am pumped, it's been so long and I have 30 10mg diaz to collect at 5. It's been a terrible past 2 weeks and I am going to feel that anxiety disappear and just CHILL THE FUCK OUT in my recliner. God damn I've been looking forward to this.
Was early July when I had my last .5mg

DICKS EVERYWHERE

>>137167

>etizolam anti anxiety wave of wellness finally hits from slamming the PG residue left over in the vial (originally 80mg etiz) after a water residue wash

>Pleasantly surprised; I could only dose about ~750ug etiz from the dropper before wash and drink to remove it all. No idea exactly how much, but maybe 2-3mg total?

Time to vape volcano+magma vaporbong style

DICKS EVERYWHERE

>>137662
Jesus wtf. Someone please delete all those posts besides the last one.

>>137662
Yea it can make it happen, I wouldn't recommend. If you are 3 weeks in why slip up now? Just keep going strong.

Also you never even responded too
>>137658

>>137664
Also many different variables that come into play how far it will set you back. How long were you on benzos for? How was your usage? How many times have you been through withdrawal before? We can't give you a precise length of time.

nb

>>137665.
I was on benzos for about 4 months using usually around 1-2mg Klonopin a day (sometimes a little more). I'm now tapered down to about .5mg Ativan a day and it keeps me healthy. I am going to have to go through withdrawals but still need to be healthy once in a while and want to know if using just 1mg Klonopin would set me back and if so how far. Full on withdrawal or just a little setback?

Everyone reaponds differently, there are cases where people have seizures/prolonged wd off of minor dosages.

So yes hypothetically you could.

4 months is a relatively short time but past the hypothetical line lf wds/varying severity.

Was your dose rxd? What was the scripted dosage? Why are you now on .5 lorazepam while tapering? Although, its an intermediate benzo its not really ideal for a taper. And odd that .5 lorazepam equal to .25 clonazepam is a workable taper dosage if your maintenance was 2mg-1mg clonazepam.

Like I said it differs for everyone. 1mg clonazepam could set you back, do nothing, only God and your body chemistry know and both don't tend to speak.

I've tapered off of a high dose of clonazepam and it was fairly mild for me, taking a random dose didnt set me back BUT this in no way means your experience will be the same.

Honestly man, the break in your will power should concern you more. Why do you want a kpin? Is it psychological need? Are the wds severe etc? If the latter talk to a doc, if the former I hope you keep on your taper safely.

Is your taper supervised? Do your docs know whats going on? This stuff isn't really somewhere you want to draw a bad card or play around lightly.

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>>137619
Quetz on /opi/ is dope. I don't frequent that board very often, but I back that idea.

>>137622
Bomb and Dr. M would be great. I second that.
TinyTrip, you'd also be a great nominee. You're knowledgeable and post objectively.
I am honored for the shoutout though. I'd be happy to janitor the role, but I can't and won't nominate myself.

>>137619
for sleep , only slept like 4 hrs yesterday, went to work for 9 hrs, took a xanax about midnight , slept about 10 hrs comfy as f

>>137614
Sounds like he's experiencing an episode of hypomania from benz withdrawal. It's happened to me before. Going cold turkey is almost guaranteed to trigger one if you have even the slightest susceptibility to it.

>>137569
>>137619
>>137622

The most you need is to post a warning saying this is dangerous and others shouldn't try it. We don't need a bunch of posts nuked.

>>137636
My personal thought is that most of the consistent posters would be on the liberal side, I couldn't see doc, katz, bomb etc removing anything that could potentially give value to the board. Its more so getting retard tier/obvious troll threads (worse than this) like

>Hey /benz/ can I take valium every day with no repurcussions
>Hey /benz/, I'm superman and took x amount of CLam (insert black out posting/spam updates

>>137627
Thanks Katz, appreciate the compliment. You take a great harm prevention stance and often (thank god) remind people tapering to google the term "kindling".


We have a lot of great posters on this board trips and not