>3.5mg Clonazepam
>1 blunt of Skywalker OG

-a couple of energy drinks

Now enjoying Bordertown on Netflix while finishing up this blunt and waiting for Arab food to arrive at my door for midnight munchies

>>145497

Sounds comfy

>>145143
This past Saturday: 50mg diazepam, 2mg alprazolam, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, 15mg oxycodone, 4 x 12 fl.oz. beers, and 0.5g cocaine (all spaced out over 12+ hours).

Today: 25mg diazepam, 1mg alprazolam, 5mg oxycodone, 15mg cyclobenzaprine, 100mg DPH, and I’m sipping on a half/half vodka lemonade. The diazepam and cyclobenzaprine were spaced out, but everything else has been within the last hour.

>>145490
I don't remember if it was this board specifically, but ive gone through clonazolam withdrawal once before and asked advice about it somewhere and basically everyone just said i was a dumbasss fortaking it every day. at that point in my live i actually wasnt psychologically addicted, i just took it every evening to chill, and one day i just didnt take it cause i didnt feel like i needed to chill that day, and the night was hell and i ended up dosing again and tapering myself off pretty easily, i was only on about 500ug daily for about 3 weeks tho.

I told myself after that id never let that shit happen again and i didnt do any benzos more than once or twice a week. anyway, some shit happened in my life and i lost my job and got even more depressed than i was before and had 180mg of clonazolam sitting around from an order a dude accidently sent me double of and i decided to just fucking go for it.

My naivety of how easy it was to quit before led me to believe i could do it again just as easily, but when youre out of a job for months and have nothing but a pile of drugs lying around you get pretty dumbass. I never take doses where i have memory issues but i started taking it a lot because i have a lot of anxiety about leaving the house and id take a lil here and there to loosen me up so i could hang out with people and have a social life.

>this same thread has been made a million times

I figured it was worth making again cause everyone is in a slightly different position and most threads have some major difference from my scenario that makes the advice not helpful, i also hate pouring through dead posts and archived shit. I like real time feedback.

i was never much of a benzo fiend till the PST scene got fucked and my other opi sources got to expensive. I don't know what all websites ive asked for help on various sustances but i usually get called dumb and shit for gettign addicted knowing the risks (mind you by people who usually had it worse than i did) anyway, i like your opitmism and help.

> it would be best to follow a medically supervised taper
>clonazolam is a monster in itself that medical professionals don’t typically have any idea of.
> none of us are technically trained to give you any medical information. With that said, the board is still here for support and will gladly help you along this atrocious process.

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>>145491

>consuming any alcohol on this journey is a big no no and will fuck me over?

yes, definitely. don't do it at all. it'll fuck up your taper, and your calculations will be incorrect. also high chance of switching over to it if you are deeply psychologically addicted. it's easyer to come down because acute WD only last 1 week, but that 1 week is hell on earth and the toxicity is far worse than benzos. t. former benzo fiend and current alcoholic.

also please everyone who detoxifies from benzos (and alcohol, phenibut, etc) notice that WDs from GABAerg drugs are not only dangerous in that you might die and if you don't die then everything is OK. It is damaging. Having GABAerg withdrawal a few times makes damage in the frontal lobe, amygdala, cerebellum, limbic system, etc, so much, that they can measure it by an EEG and you can see it with your own eyes on the picture of your brain compared to a normal brain. It's kind of evil because the damage in you brain by withdrawals make your ability to avoid relapse smaller (and lots of other psychiatric and neurological shit). Also it makes every witdhdrawal harsher then the one before it. (kindling effect). So everybody please follow the safe taper method.

>>145493
i know you have the best of intentions but hearing shit like this like my brain is permafucked cause of this just makes me not even wanna stop like. ill just live my life like this or fucking dome mysself. sorry to be a downer im just in a terrible place in my life rn.

feeel like i cant accomplish anything without drugs, cant quit drugs cause i gotta take a break from life basically to get off em. im sure yall know it but like it sucks. everything is hell.

at least it makes opi w/ds a walk in the park. ive been through PST and fent w/d and obviously theyre like a walk in the park compared to clonazolam. its just like being reallly really sad and a lil anxious vs feeling like the world is about to end and everything you know is about to be dashed asunder amidst your falll.

>>145489
I used to get delusions of sobriety a lot more when i first started taking benzos, at first it was so bad i didnt even like them cause i was like "these dont even get me high" but its almost like an aquired taste type thing. its very odd.

When i started i was just curious cause they were so dirt cheap and i couldnt get my usual opi fix so i tried out something new. my delusions of sobriety like i said were intense at the begginning and same with the memory loss. id forget whole weeks basically.

Once i got a tolerance going i started noticing the subtle effects more and more despite needing a higher dose, and the memory issues drastically declined. I no longer have any issue forming memories while on benzos, just a slight delay in recall which is a little worrying but doesnt effect my life much. currently trying to quit though.

>But yes to answer your question, for some people the delusions of sobriety are really intense. i have a friend who can take barely any benzos and he wont even be able to walk yet insists hes completely fine. its baffling.

not trying to toot my own horn or sound cool but even before i was physically dependent i would blackout somewhat frequently and go about my daily routine and nobody would notice, i wouldnt even notice till someone would metion a conversation i didnt remember having. its different for everyone.

More hulks and k-pins. I guess I'll never get any info on esrazolam I'll say since its desmethylalprazolam it weaker like 4mgs or estazolam =2mg orf xanax and feels like aalmost the dame as xanax just lasts longer. Most demethylated benzos to act longer and are weaker than their parent drug. Can anyone give me an example where the desmethyl version is stronger?

>>145110
Not off top, no.

>>145155 that blows

More bars and kpins. :)

>>145407 man just drip it on a blotter or anything and wait for the alcohol to evaporate, then ingest that

>>145435
I can't handle the consistency (too thick).


>>145438
Brilliant idea, thx!

>>145407
The benzo im presribed is waaaaaaay more uncommon than that wonderfull stuff( the C-lam at least) you got there but doubt you tried estazolam(NOT ETIZOLAM) it's technically desmethylalprazolam if you have let me know what you think cause its the rarest RX benzo i and everyone else on here has hered of.

>>145466
I'll never understand retards like you who have it so well and then fuck you life up with drugs, especially research chems, ESPECIALLY rc benzos.

Like, I don't even know what to say. You're just fucking stupid, dude.

>>145466
But until now everything went fucking great:
I fuck 2 girls. One of them being the most beautiful being on this Planet.
I actually wann see my friends and go out again - ok sometimes I get very annoying or even mean cause of the disinhibition - but they now my 'manic' me.
Work is easy as fuck to manage, while being just mellow and not hatong my life and everything
The worst thing that happened was almost losing my bike cause I forgot where I locked it.

Dunno, right now I use like 0,45mg of Clam and like 1000mg Phenibut + my sub, even though now I got my first take-home and only take like 8mg snorted instead of the full 12.

There must be some people who are able to use clam in a 'responsible' yet fun way, right?

Also do I even need to taper right now, with my kind of Habit? Or can I just tough it out.

Also I will loose my fucking take-home suboxone if I tell my doc that I'm using bezos.

>>145470
Well it's obvious you're not 100% serious about kicking this retarded and deadly habit despite the warnings and advice you have been given.

Go fuck yourself, OP. Here's to fucking your shit up even more to the point you ruin your life and wind up dead.

>>145457

nah you're just retarded

>>145449
Yes, the oral bioavailability is greater than intranasal, but I don't think it's "far greater" for diazepam at least. This study suggests that intranasal diazepam has a bioavailability of ~75%: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19231138

Still a little wasteful but I wouldn't call it completely retarded.

I've blown some Klonopin, the heavily drank for 6 hours after (this was years ago; I love my booze still), and it didn't do shit for me. You're probably better of parachuting

>>145284
You just spread yoyr dosing out.

I read that Pregabalin reaches peak plasma concentrations within 1.5 hours, is this the same as saying that's when it peaks?

>>145460
And up to 4hrs or so if you took it with food.

You have to deal with your irl problems and acknowledge your stresses. Benzos are not a long term solution for anxiety. You will need more and more, you will get more and more depersonalized and it will be extremely hard to kick. I've been there and it's not pretty, your life will pass you and the withdrawals will be similar to opioid withdrawal which can kill you. Benzos are good for hard times and stressful days of heightened anxiety. Drink 4 plastic bottles of water a day and take walks or if you're a badass take 2-4 mile runs, cut out all substances but take multivitamins and get your blood checked to find vitamin deficiencies.

>>145306
faggots like you are the worst.

>>145306
I think this is a good idea. I have overcome 5 years of hard anxiety completely. I'm even interested in sharing how I did it, if I could. One of my focuses was on triggers and reversing triggers related to negative feelings/emotions. Though I can't help that much right now (uni).

>>145395
underrated post

>>145395
Benzos can be utilized as a tool to recognize problems occurring. In no way did I intend to make benzos seem only to be a band aid. Rather, using medication in conjunction with therapy has the best possibly therapeutic outcome for the individual. While someone can use medication to reorganize their life, I do not think the majority of people use meds in such a manner. Pills are thought to be a quick fix or temporary solution. Again, the average person is not going to receive a medication and think "well, I can use this to re-map and reorganize my entire being," which is unfortunate.

>>145424
I second this.

>>145432
: )