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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Kpins not show up on drug screens

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- Sat, 28 Mar 2020 18:58:43 EST Aw60hiec No.148642
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I screen my urine everyonce in a while to make sure my stuff is good.

have been taking kpin for about 4 days

doesn't show up at all.

my test is for 10 different types of drugs benz included
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DTMO - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:26:56 EST dfPfeG2G No.148660 Reply
Not saying you're wrong but I find valium hits quicker than clonazepam and probably even Xanax. Most sources say onset in 30mins. Side note, and I know I keep raving about it, but if you like the muscle relaxation from diazepam then nitrazepam may well be worth checking out. Best body high of any benzo I've tried yet.
lol - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:19:35 EST BqpvRW4y No.148661 Reply
Interesting. I always found them to be mostly the same in terms of onset (of the big four I mean, kpin, xan, ativan, valium) with ativan always feeling like it took slightly longer for some reason imo.


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- Wed, 25 Mar 2020 22:43:56 EST D28/Wr9M No.148623
File: 1585190636688.png -(258816B / 252.75KB, 720x380) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. tolerance
how long till tolerance goes down after taking high doses (2mg rivotril, 0,5mg = 10mg diazepam) occasionally
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Nigel Dartwater - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:55:40 EST D28/Wr9M No.148634 Reply

yeah i did read your reply, thoroughly in fact, thanks

can you just state a concrete time window please?

from your reply, i can only assume it will be like 4 weeks before tolerance is completely down. is that right?
Nigel Dartwater - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:57:03 EST D28/Wr9M No.148635 Reply

OP here again. i said myself i found out through experience that 2 days in a row is a dud high

so like ah dont patronize me pls uwu
John Hinningbeck - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 05:39:48 EST iyFOab2L No.148658 Reply
I will say, tolerance, (being ineffective) should not suddenly jump high by just taking it one day then suddenly not having the same effectiveness the next day. Sometimes it will, sometimes it may not. I will say that.

I think quality depends a lot on how well it will work. Consistently.

I got crappy clonazepam for a long time, and found a good brand and thought, wow, I did mean wow. This is what clonazepam is supposed to be and why I was prescribed it in the first place.

So really since, I have never even entertained the idea of taking breaks to get the same results.
It never really worked that way. Some benzodiazapines may shoot tolerance high very quickly.
Ritrovil doesn't act that way. Many people have taken the same amount for whatever reasons and
get a brand that is known to be lower quality and do notice it immediately, it is not in their head.
I had been skeptical getting a new brand, and found it surpassed the previous brand by far where
less was more in terms of getting things done, where more just produced sleep and nothing more.

In your case? I wouldn't fret about it not having the same effect. Again I think some brands work
better than others. People who generally take high doses are the ones who need to take breaks
to get the effect they desire. I guess take it for what it is. Some people may even out a tolerance
that is sustainable, whether if they take it near daily oroccasionally.

You may find, taking two consecutive doses of the same amount in two days three days
in a row, you may find it to work the same. Or I guess just maybe not.

Shit to do on Etizolam in Quarantine

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- Tue, 31 Mar 2020 00:22:38 EST 2EnpPJdv No.148657
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I like messing around with my synthesizers and drum machine and making music, and also playing videl games of a vast variety

What do you guys like to do while on Etizolam. What doses do you take?

If it's gonna be a chill, normal night for me I'll most likely take anywhere from 2 - 5 mg. I typically don't enjoy any doses above 5mg though. I fall asleepy stupid easy at those doses.

So far playing Doom Eternal while on small-ish doses of Etizolam and smoking weed with it have been amazing.

How to take drugs very well

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- Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:30:52 EST Lnp/mneo No.148556
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Hey funky medinas ..looking for a sensible yet still recreational dosing plan...
I’ve got 30 x 2mg clonazepam cumming my way. The last time I took a Benzo was about 4 days ago and it a half tab (0.25 mg) of And then prior to that I use to take Xanax on the reg like 3 years ago but then I got fucked up and stopped.

I work full time and I cannot be seen intoxicated so imma use mainly on my days off or perhaps once per week on those days when I actually wanna die instead of attending work. Just to keep me going without having to be mentally and emotionally present.

I’m thinking of going through 4/5mg a week. mg since i’ll Still be able to enjoy a low dose. I just wanna mong out listen to music and asmr mainly.
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m - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 22:07:33 EST gRVjhKoI No.148598 Reply
It's not worthless if you use it responsibly, meaning something like only 1.5mg once every 14 or so days.
Oliver Goodson - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:50:32 EST xhUx/5+6 No.148651 Reply
No. I took 8mg in my first week lol <3 thanks for the advice tho. It genuinely shook me for a day.
m - Mon, 30 Mar 2020 18:46:37 EST gRVjhKoI No.148654 Reply
It's a shame you seem to have less self control than my cat, literally. When she catches bunnies, snakes and for the most part birds, she brings me them and manages to non-verbally asks me if she can kill it. It's even more astonishing that you can't control yourself whatsoever, even when consuming arguably the LEAST euphoric recreational drug class in existence.

You need to learn self-control. It's what separates us from animals. Don't you want to be better than the rat in a cage that spams the cocaine lever? I dont just intend to shit talk you; just be aware of who you are.

Dont let the drugs do you. Dont be the reason we cant have nice things. I didn't spell out responsible use for you to just laugh in my face. It's a bit rude man.

I really want some Etizolam

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- Mon, 23 Mar 2020 16:45:31 EST 2EnpPJdv No.148606
File: 1584996331929.jpg -(31911B / 31.16KB, 720x405) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I really want some Etizolam
>tfw your girlfriend doesn't want you doing any drugs besides weed anymore
>tfw you haven't touched benzos in general for over a year
>tfw you really want to dip your toes back into Etizolam but your conscience won't let you because

Feels bad, man. I just wanna eat a little bit of Etizolam without feeling like a bad person about doing it.
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Fanny Minkintat - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 11:20:11 EST 3e/Aj8kC No.148633 Reply
I ordered two 50 ct. boxes of Etizest. Won't be here for anothwr 10 days, but I'm still stoked. Probably gonna keep it around for a little while and just dip into it every now and then.
George Pemmerworth - Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:30:00 EST OCxWh1rM No.148652 Reply
Get it while you can OP. I got lucky in ordering a 30 ml dropper right before my state scheduled it. I try and only dose 1mg 4 times a month max, and I've still got a ton of it in the bottle.

It's been great as a way to keep me from drinking 24/7 more that I've lost my job and stay at home all day. Gotta have at least one day a week you don't black out drunk.
Lillian Dazzlemot - Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:42:45 EST 3e/Aj8kC No.148653 Reply

That's pretty much how I intend to use the Etizest that I ordered. I wanna use it to pretty much stop drinking (besides just casually drinking when out at a restaurant) and to wind down with some weed after a day of work.

Could I reduce my benzo tolerance by taking gaba antagonists?

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- Wed, 11 Mar 2020 14:42:45 EST XIUSmdow No.148510
File: 1583952165821.jpg -(78280B / 76.45KB, 600x772) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Could I reduce my benzo tolerance by taking gaba antagonists?
I'm starting to develop a high tolerance for benzos. I want that tolerance down so I can take lower doses. Would some form of gaba antagonist do this, and are there other ways to reduce tolerance?
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Martha Cammlepad - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:19:43 EST bOg1JPbz No.148527 Reply
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Lol guess I gotta bbe an addict for awhile since the only option of fixing my gaba receptors is tappering.
Samuel Billingridge - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 02:03:03 EST vrLJVAZx No.148555 Reply
lol don't take a gaba antagonist unless you like convulsions/seizures.
Hamilton Turveywell - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:16:19 EST kUv4Zlj6 No.148650 Reply
flumazenil iv don't feel good. trust me

Bump While Benz'd (BWB): Blackouts, Brown-outs, Medicinal Successes, and Collective Amnesia, Pt. IX

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 07:02:45 EST wsOFceLF No.147800
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The old thread is not only no longer bumping, but is also out of date (Summer is long gone for those of us north of the equator). Several posters over the past couple of years have really stressed the importance of harm reduction and tapering guides to be pinned to the top of the board, but I have never seen any harm reduction thread pinned to the top of /benz/. As such, post when you're on benzos, have benzo or GABAergic questions not deemed suitable for their own thread(s), and whatever else you can conceive of when discussing benzodiazepines and their related drugs.

I would be remiss not to mention this thread, and board, are home to discussions of not only benzodiazepines, but also barbiturates, thienodiazepines (e.g. etizolam), RC benzos, gabapentin, pregabalin, Soma (carisoprodol), GHB and related analogues, phenibut, and other GABAergic drugs.

For the sake of safety, refer to the Ashton Manual for dosage conversions, medically advised tapering schedules, and other benzo-related facts (e.g. half-life, active metabolites, etc.). The Ashton Manual is essentially the benzo bible: https://benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm

Medically safe rapid tapers involve a 10% dosage reduction per week or even per month. A modified version of this taper is to reduce dosages by a maximum of 10% per week (or month) until reaching 20% of the initial daily dosage. Upon reaching 20% of the original dosage, a person can then taper by 5% per week (or month) until their taper is complete. The main goal of tapering is to continue decreasing doses or at least remain at the same dosage for an extra few weeks or months rather than increase dosage. Tapering is a long and potentially deadly process with horrid withdrawal symptoms that can be mitigated by following medical guidelines and sticking to empirically reviewed taper schedules. Harvard University published a succinct, yet informative piece regarding CDC- and FDA-related guidelines for opioid tapering, which can be utilized for tapering benzos: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/undoing-the-harm-tapering-down-from-high-dose-opioids-2019051016622

BWB: 30mg diazepam, 20mg hydrocodone, 150mg hydroxyzine, 30mg cyclobenzaprine, and a glass of wine. I'm about to take 10mg zolpidem and pass out.
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High Strung - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 21:36:17 EST P87PGSLq No.148645 Reply
>1mg Clonazepam

Ready for the kiddos. Such sweet children, so glad to have them.

Yeah mate, it's bad. I got into China mere days before they stopped accepting foreign nationals into PRC borders. To use some old-school imageboard speak: in b4 the lock. Best of luck, this might take a while.....
DTMO - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 04:27:13 EST FbyTPVHx No.148648 Reply
Because I'm contrary: I've never found a difference between brand name Lyrica and generics (Lyzal and I think another one). It seems to be primarily a Seppo problem this lack of bioequivalence between brands.
Hamilton Turveywell - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:03:31 EST kUv4Zlj6 No.148649 Reply
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dat ambien

im gonna eat sunchips and play the burning crusade

pic is my face when corona

kpin city and im the new mayor

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- Thu, 26 Mar 2020 18:15:19 EST Aw60hiec No.148630
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So I want to preface this by saying I have not had a script for benzos in about 3 years. I have GAD and a little social anxiety.

I just got off the phone with my psych. Appointments are currently over the phones because of COVID. This would be the third time I've seen her.

She asked me a little about my anxiety during the COVID thing. I told her I was anxious as usual blah blah blah.

She tells me she is writing a script for clonazepam. I'm think sweet I can do with a little.

We end the call and I get a Walgreens notification on my phone like 30mins later. I look at the new scripts

180 fucking .5 k pins

Still speechless. Got grabbed them
Jack Dedgeway - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:51:52 EST bOg1JPbz No.148643 Reply
Similar thing happened to me. Been taking benzos for a few months due to anxiety and I really need to taper. Got in touch with psychologists over the phone and they diagnosed me with AD/HD and they told me that I have really telling symptoms. Scripted me adderal. Strangely, after taking my first dose, I had ambitions to taper off of benzos, so I did. After taking the addys, I had less withdrawal effects and just functioned fine.

No real pleasure from the amph. Just increased work performance. Weird. Definitely made me focus more, want to take benzos less, but I don't want to spare my weekends without the nice benz vibes, so benz on weekends, stims on weekdays. Maybe take a T-break when the time feels right.

Fake Xans

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- Wed, 18 Mar 2020 20:15:23 EST A9TKpBt9 No.148559
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Much to my dismay I just dropped $100 on 10 fake xanax

Only after the fact did buddy say, "I thought you knew they were fakes lol no refunds"

ANYWAY, tested for fentanyl, they're negative. Ideally, I'd like to use them and get at least some of my money's worth.

What would be a good starting dose, if this is a worst-case-scenario benz?

I normally take 0.5 of a bar when I have real ones. If it helps, the bars fully dissolved in bacteriostatic water with no residue.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:07:01 EST NiH7Y/Zc No.148613 Reply
Motherfucker do I know you? Lol.
Edmonton is flush with cheap real benzos, try city center any day of the week.
Clara Blanderworth - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 18:35:54 EST jhECyqyV No.148621 Reply
Doubtful but not impossible? Ha

And I've never cold-copped in my life.... I'd prefer to never do that. All my hookups are people I've had since craigslist nuked their strictly platonic list
Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 12:18:20 EST awiyoakQ No.148627 Reply
I wish I could help you out but I don't want to violate board rules. It's rare enough to see anons from our city. Like I can find good fake pressed bars for 2.50$. I guess all I can say is keep trying because those connections are out there man you just gotta put the work in finding those people. I've also found in our area that all bars are not equally dosed and 5 bars from the same person could all be different strengths to the point where some contain practically no active ingredients to bars that look the same from the same batch where you black out off of a single one.

how fuckes am I? thus is my benzo dose record after a 5 day t-break.

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- Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:38:25 EST uiX8kUpC No.148602
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ay 16:
2mg 0730
2mg 1206

Day 15:
4 mg 1425
4 mg etizolam 1617
6mg 1833
6mg 2030
4 mg 2145
2mg 2255
2mg 0730

Day 14
2mg 1203
4 mg 1205
2mg 1418
7.5mg 1431
.8mg 1657
8mg 1628
10 mg 1845
2mg 2004.
2mg 2010
12 mg 2050
10 mg 2155
2mg 2200
8mg 0205
8mg 0336
1 mg clam 0535
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Kim Il Sung - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 02:50:26 EST P5d5omkx No.148615 Reply
my dude coming from a benzo lover and addict for decades, you need to slow down. that's some insane benzo use if I'm reading this all right. you live how you want though of course! I'm just sayin the withdrawal from all of that could be brutally fatal.

John Crottingbidge - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 07:43:31 EST bOg1JPbz No.148616 Reply
Yeah this dependence is kinda fucking with my work life rn. Trying to taper down now. Hard to do though. I'm married to benzos.

What would be enough etizolam to kill yyou?

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- Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:15:08 EST bOg1JPbz No.148609
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Just out of curiosity, how much could kill you? What if you mixed kratom and alcohol into the mix? Would you die?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:32:54 EST FIs+k9om No.148610 Reply
Nope. Sorry, but suicide threads are not allowed, bud. Reported.

Benzo and thienodiazepines are leagues safer than their barbiturate counterparts. People often take ridiculous doses of benzos with alcohol and other drugs. Instead of dying people can end up in comas, arrested, physically hurt, stealing, and any number of other toxic things while blacked out for days on end.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:34:26 EST FIs+k9om No.148611 Reply
Also, etizolam and kratom, arguably, are some of the safest GABA and mu opioid receptor agonists out there. Both substances are legal in a large amount of countries online or even in person (more so with the kratom).


Rx increase help

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- Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:25:38 EST SgSHZhyL No.148589
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How long should one be on a benzo until it’s no long affective and you need more? I want to get a bump from my doctor but I don’t want to be seen as a drug seeker and potentially lose what I have now. I’m honestly not trying to just abuse them I really do need them to cope. I think my doctor will understand but I’m still worried about it. Truth is I’ve felt overdue for a bump but always act like everything is fine when I see him.

I know the whole thing your not supposed to take these long term but that is how my doctor has been giving it to me. I started at .25mg xan morning and night and after a few months went to x3 .25 a day. Maybe almost a year until I had a bad meltdown and he suggested moving up to .25mg x4 a day.

The only thing is now I can’t get anymore per day I have to get an increase in dosage and I don’t want things to backfire if I tell him that. It’s been about 2 and half years now at this rate. So I do feel overdue for a bump but also am worried as in his mind it has been working for so long at this level. I’m also fearful he may switch it for something else that won’t help me as much.


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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 09:06:19 EST vL8Yr29E No.148327
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I haven't seen much discussion of this one on here. Personally it's my new favourite benzo. Valium was my old favourite but this stuff is like the first 30 mins of euphoria from diazepam but lasts for 24 hours. Maybe temazepam + clonazepam is a good comparison point. I've tried Alprazolam, clonazepam, diazepam, oxazepam (lol) and Temazepam and this stuff stands along. Anyone else a convert?
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Kim Il Sung - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 09:14:30 EST cH8tad2r No.148471 Reply
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man I've always wanted to try Nitrazepam but you dont see it much here in the US. at least where I'm at.

what's oxazepam like I'd love an actual breakdown of how it feels I'm curious.
DTMO - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:55:50 EST 1fA2B2vw No.148582 Reply
Oxazepam takes forever to come on and is fairly underwhelming when it does IMO. On the plus side it does last for a reasonable time.

Chewing the pills and swallowing

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- Thu, 05 Mar 2020 11:39:15 EST wa933kDm No.148477
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Does chewing them up make them hit you harder and faster?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 21:27:54 EST pagNgkzs No.148547 Reply
Yes, but you shouldn’t. Take the tablets by oral route: swallow or sublingual. Alprazolam and almost all other benzos are best taken by oral admin. Also, if your Xanax is counterfeit and pressed with fentanyl, fentanyl has a much lower oral BA compared to intranasal.
Samuel Finningwidge - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 03:41:47 EST DlIIaM1E No.148580 Reply
loled. How is everyone doing...My stash and RX ran dry but no seizures...(knock on wood)

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