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Brain - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:58:28 EST ID:4UFetWzj No.145143
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Current one isn't bumping anymore so I gotta drop a new one.

/Benz/ up folks. Make the most of spring this 2019.

> 1mg clonazzepam/ 2.5g phenibut / 16mg etizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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High Strung - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 23:48:25 EST ID:VPU/mRFL No.145497 Ignore Report Reply
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>3.5mg Clonazepam
>1 blunt of Skywalker OG
-a couple of energy drinks

Now enjoying Bordertown on Netflix while finishing up this blunt and waiting for Arab food to arrive at my door for midnight munchies
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Clara Panningnid - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:09:20 EST ID:86LjTa31 No.145498 Ignore Report Reply
>>145497

Sounds comfy
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:49:23 EST ID:I6YS7H0F No.145499 Ignore Report Reply
>>145143
This past Saturday: 50mg diazepam, 2mg alprazolam, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, 15mg oxycodone, 4 x 12 fl.oz. beers, and 0.5g cocaine (all spaced out over 12+ hours).

Today: 25mg diazepam, 1mg alprazolam, 5mg oxycodone, 15mg cyclobenzaprine, 100mg DPH, and I’m sipping on a half/half vodka lemonade. The diazepam and cyclobenzaprine were spaced out, but everything else has been within the last hour.


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Doris Greendock - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:11:52 EST ID:FBN91bNM No.145486
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Ok yeah lets skip the part where you call me a retard ( i know i am ) and the part where this same thread has been made a million times....

I've had cLam withdrawaal before, its fucking awful i know, but it was highish dose very short term.

I've been using cLam erryday for like 4 months, started low now im at about 1mg a day to stay sane and sometimes 1.5 a day if i wanna actually feel fucked up. I dont take my doses all at once, i take like 4 "smaller" ones throughout the day that add up to 1-1.5mg. I tried to taper a few weeks ago and got down to like 750ug a day for like a week but it was hell so i went back up, but i dropped my dose v abruptly

I think im capable of tapering the hard part is just keeping track of how much ive taken. Do i just have to go all in and taper or is there an easy way out like opis where i can just switch to something else for a while then stop cold turkey?

also if i were to stop cold turkey at this point (1mg a day roughly) how fucked would i be?
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Doris Greendock - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:52:33 EST ID:FBN91bNM No.145491 Ignore Report Reply
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>>145490
I don't remember if it was this board specifically, but ive gone through clonazolam withdrawal once before and asked advice about it somewhere and basically everyone just said i was a dumbasss fortaking it every day. at that point in my live i actually wasnt psychologically addicted, i just took it every evening to chill, and one day i just didnt take it cause i didnt feel like i needed to chill that day, and the night was hell and i ended up dosing again and tapering myself off pretty easily, i was only on about 500ug daily for about 3 weeks tho.

I told myself after that id never let that shit happen again and i didnt do any benzos more than once or twice a week. anyway, some shit happened in my life and i lost my job and got even more depressed than i was before and had 180mg of clonazolam sitting around from an order a dude accidently sent me double of and i decided to just fucking go for it.

My naivety of how easy it was to quit before led me to believe i could do it again just as easily, but when youre out of a job for months and have nothing but a pile of drugs lying around you get pretty dumbass. I never take doses where i have memory issues but i started taking it a lot because i have a lot of anxiety about leaving the house and id take a lil here and there to loosen me up so i could hang out with people and have a social life.

>this same thread has been made a million times
I figured it was worth making again cause everyone is in a slightly different position and most threads have some major difference from my scenario that makes the advice not helpful, i also hate pouring through dead posts and archived shit. I like real time feedback.

i was never much of a benzo fiend till the PST scene got fucked and my other opi sources got to expensive. I don't know what all websites ive asked for help on various sustances but i usually get called dumb and shit for gettign addicted knowing the risks (mind you by people who usually had it worse than i did) anyway, i like your opitmism and help.

> it would be best to follow a medically supervised taper
>clonazolam is a monster in itself that medical professionals don’t typically have any idea of.
> none of us are technically trained to give you any medical information. With that said, the board is still here for support and will gladly help you along this atrocious process.
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Hannah Brollymot - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:40:03 EST ID:L4x7ucJQ No.145493 Ignore Report Reply
>>145491
>consuming any alcohol on this journey is a big no no and will fuck me over?

yes, definitely. don't do it at all. it'll fuck up your taper, and your calculations will be incorrect. also high chance of switching over to it if you are deeply psychologically addicted. it's easyer to come down because acute WD only last 1 week, but that 1 week is hell on earth and the toxicity is far worse than benzos. t. former benzo fiend and current alcoholic.

also please everyone who detoxifies from benzos (and alcohol, phenibut, etc) notice that WDs from GABAerg drugs are not only dangerous in that you might die and if you don't die then everything is OK. It is damaging. Having GABAerg withdrawal a few times makes damage in the frontal lobe, amygdala, cerebellum, limbic system, etc, so much, that they can measure it by an EEG and you can see it with your own eyes on the picture of your brain compared to a normal brain. It's kind of evil because the damage in you brain by withdrawals make your ability to avoid relapse smaller (and lots of other psychiatric and neurological shit). Also it makes every witdhdrawal harsher then the one before it. (kindling effect). So everybody please follow the safe taper method.
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Fuck Buzzville - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 20:36:34 EST ID:FBN91bNM No.145496 Ignore Report Reply
>>145493
i know you have the best of intentions but hearing shit like this like my brain is permafucked cause of this just makes me not even wanna stop like. ill just live my life like this or fucking dome mysself. sorry to be a downer im just in a terrible place in my life rn.

feeel like i cant accomplish anything without drugs, cant quit drugs cause i gotta take a break from life basically to get off em. im sure yall know it but like it sucks. everything is hell.

at least it makes opi w/ds a walk in the park. ive been through PST and fent w/d and obviously theyre like a walk in the park compared to clonazolam. its just like being reallly really sad and a lil anxious vs feeling like the world is about to end and everything you know is about to be dashed asunder amidst your falll.


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Doris Greendock - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:52:04 EST ID:FBN91bNM No.145494
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I cant find the thread and i dont know how factual it was, but it was some guy listing the functional groups that could be attached the various positions on the benzodiazepine ring/structure and their general effects

Obviously the triazolo substitution increases potency and recreation effects in most scenarios and with most users

This guy also said that flourine, chlorine, and bromine (from greatest to least) in the R2 and R7 positions increased the potency by weight of the benzo, which makes sense (flunitrazolam, clonazolam, flubromazolam)

He also said that the nitrogen with oxygen group generally increased the recreational value, not sure how that holds up but it makes sense to me (clonazolam, clonazepam, and flunitrazolam all widely considered to be pretty euphoric)

My questions are how does the replacing one of the benzene ring with a thieno ring effect a benzo (like etizolam)? and how does replacing the other (bottom? im not a chemist) benzene ring with a 2-pyridine ring (like pyrazolam) effect the the experience?

>what do you think (if this is even possible) a thienodiazepine like the pic i created would be like? completely shit? or maybe worth it?


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Fanny Cronkinstotch - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 10:52:55 EST ID:F/3q7gjJ No.145489
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I took 1 mg of Clonazepam after waking up. I ate breakfast and went shopping with a friend of mine. While there I took another milligram of Clonazepam. We fucked around for a bit in town and then decided to go get some beers from a local liquor store.

I walked in there, grabbed a beer, and went to the counter. When I was pulling out bills from my wallet, the clerk told me I've already had too many and told me to buzz off. Where I live there are heavy penalties to stores if they sell booze to people who're already visibly inebriated. I couldn't understand the situation. I tried to explain that I had not drank anything yet and that I was completely sober (booze-wise, I didn't mention the clonazepam) but he just told me to get the fuck out of there.

So I left and my friend ended up buying the beers I wanted. Now, I know benzos cause delusions of sobriety, but is it really that bad? Like, I don't understand how the clerk saw through me and noticed I was under the influence of something. I didn't slurr my words, I didn't wobble or stumble around. I was walking, talking, and moving just fine. So A) the clerk was being a dick, or B) I was visibly fucked up. My friend was weeded out and didn't notice anything peculiar about my behavior, but he was not the best judge.

This makes me question my previous endeavors into the outside world while under the influence of benzos. If a store clerk can see that I'm inebriated on a 2 mg dose of Clonazepam, it must be obvious to other people too. Have I been walking around town making a fool of myself this whole time? This fucks with my brain heavily.

Any stories of dēlūsiōnis sobrietas you could share?
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Doris Greendock - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:04:10 EST ID:FBN91bNM No.145492 Ignore Report Reply
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>>145489
I used to get delusions of sobriety a lot more when i first started taking benzos, at first it was so bad i didnt even like them cause i was like "these dont even get me high" but its almost like an aquired taste type thing. its very odd.

When i started i was just curious cause they were so dirt cheap and i couldnt get my usual opi fix so i tried out something new. my delusions of sobriety like i said were intense at the begginning and same with the memory loss. id forget whole weeks basically.

Once i got a tolerance going i started noticing the subtle effects more and more despite needing a higher dose, and the memory issues drastically declined. I no longer have any issue forming memories while on benzos, just a slight delay in recall which is a little worrying but doesnt effect my life much. currently trying to quit though.

>But yes to answer your question, for some people the delusions of sobriety are really intense. i have a friend who can take barely any benzos and he wont even be able to walk yet insists hes completely fine. its baffling.

not trying to toot my own horn or sound cool but even before i was physically dependent i would blackout somewhat frequently and go about my daily routine and nobody would notice, i wouldnt even notice till someone would metion a conversation i didnt remember having. its different for everyone.


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Pudgeworth cortingweell - Mon, 11 Mar 2019 19:11:22 EST ID:CQ7sMd9O No.144983
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Anybody try these. Any opinion on them. Any info on them? I swear finding info on these is harder than most RC benzos. wtf? It's fda approved. I heard it was the newest benzo for sleep untill ambien and other zdrugs killed its sales (they don't even make a name brand anymore). Any info would be awsone thanks.
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Pudgeworth cortingweell - Thu, 21 Mar 2019 23:21:42 EST ID:O6ePcd2d No.145110 Ignore Report Reply
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More hulks and k-pins. I guess I'll never get any info on esrazolam I'll say since its desmethylalprazolam it weaker like 4mgs or estazolam =2mg orf xanax and feels like aalmost the dame as xanax just lasts longer. Most demethylated benzos to act longer and are weaker than their parent drug. Can anyone give me an example where the desmethyl version is stronger?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 26 Mar 2019 02:16:58 EST ID:I6YS7H0F No.145155 Ignore Report Reply
>>145110
Not off top, no.
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Yoyo the yo-yo - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:49:05 EST ID:O6ePcd2d No.145482 Ignore Report Reply
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>>145155 that blows


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Yoyo the yo-yo - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:39:12 EST ID:O6ePcd2d No.145481
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Some bars


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Yoyo the yo-yo - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:27:27 EST ID:O6ePcd2d No.145477
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Lets see what yall got.
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Yoyo the yo-yo - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:34:06 EST ID:O6ePcd2d No.145479 Ignore Report Reply
More bars and kpins. :)


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James Padgeridge - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:30:34 EST ID:0zHIWK4P No.145478
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Anyone ever use drugs to aid in the memory loss associated with benzo use? Phenylpiracetam works for me, anyone try anything else?


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Fuck Basslesteg - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:11:55 EST ID:JtaTLcg6 No.145407
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So yesterday I received these vials, and given I have a stomach ulcer, the ethyl alcohol is putting me through severe pain. My prescribed PPI's are barely helping. I try to dose on a full stomacg, but alas it fucks me up everytime.

Anyone else had this issue? Feeling pretty disappointed..

Thx
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Isabella Brookfoot - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:07:26 EST ID:L4x7ucJQ No.145438 Ignore Report Reply
>>145407 man just drip it on a blotter or anything and wait for the alcohol to evaporate, then ingest that
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Oliver Basslefuck - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 00:56:13 EST ID:JtaTLcg6 No.145476 Ignore Report Reply
>>145435
I can't handle the consistency (too thick).


>>145438
Brilliant idea, thx!
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Yoyo the yo-yo - Mon, 22 Apr 2019 01:56:17 EST ID:O6ePcd2d No.145483 Ignore Report Reply
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>>145407
The benzo im presribed is waaaaaaay more uncommon than that wonderfull stuff( the C-lam at least) you got there but doubt you tried estazolam(NOT ETIZOLAM) it's technically desmethylalprazolam if you have let me know what you think cause its the rarest RX benzo i and everyone else on here has hered of.


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Jenny Pundleforth - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 03:33:43 EST ID:SiWmKruw No.145445
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Ok I feel this shit isn't going to end well.
>Using for like 3 weeks.
>Using up to 1,5mg, mixed with up to 2000mg phenibut and booze
>Daily use isn't that much, but it's daily
>Already getting mild WD, when trying to not dose
>Take dangerous RCs cause they slip through the lab test from my sub doc
>Yeah so also 12mg suboxone each day, sometimes +4mg nasally
I am not even asking myself if this is going to end well but rather when does it turn bad...
So any advice for cLam use ?
Also are there rc-benzos good for tapering which also are hard to test for?
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Caroline Nevingworth - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:42:48 EST ID:86LjTa31 No.145467 Ignore Report Reply
>>145466
I'll never understand retards like you who have it so well and then fuck you life up with drugs, especially research chems, ESPECIALLY rc benzos.

Like, I don't even know what to say. You're just fucking stupid, dude.
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Polly Summlechuck - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 03:20:39 EST ID:oDx+iW+L No.145470 Ignore Report Reply
>>145466
But until now everything went fucking great:
I fuck 2 girls. One of them being the most beautiful being on this Planet.
I actually wann see my friends and go out again - ok sometimes I get very annoying or even mean cause of the disinhibition - but they now my 'manic' me.
Work is easy as fuck to manage, while being just mellow and not hatong my life and everything
The worst thing that happened was almost losing my bike cause I forgot where I locked it.

Dunno, right now I use like 0,45mg of Clam and like 1000mg Phenibut + my sub, even though now I got my first take-home and only take like 8mg snorted instead of the full 12.

There must be some people who are able to use clam in a 'responsible' yet fun way, right?

Also do I even need to taper right now, with my kind of Habit? Or can I just tough it out.

Also I will loose my fucking take-home suboxone if I tell my doc that I'm using bezos.
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Caroline Nevingworth - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 03:43:04 EST ID:86LjTa31 No.145471 Ignore Report Reply
>>145470
Well it's obvious you're not 100% serious about kicking this retarded and deadly habit despite the warnings and advice you have been given.

Go fuck yourself, OP. Here's to fucking your shit up even more to the point you ruin your life and wind up dead.


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Nigel Bruckleridge - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 09:50:22 EST ID:bTPHhl7W No.145308
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I am a scrub and am not sure of this... I've heard conflicting accounts of people saying that snorting benzos can make them hit you harder and faster, much like stims. Worth it? Maybe parachute it? Or just pop 'em orally the intended way? Dealing with Klonopin here, specifically.
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aaa - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 01:49:46 EST ID:86LjTa31 No.145459 Ignore Report Reply
>>145457

nah you're just retarded
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Walter Bushham - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 00:34:52 EST ID:+B4tN0eg No.145468 Ignore Report Reply
>>145449
Yes, the oral bioavailability is greater than intranasal, but I don't think it's "far greater" for diazepam at least. This study suggests that intranasal diazepam has a bioavailability of ~75%: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19231138

Still a little wasteful but I wouldn't call it completely retarded.
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Cornelius Worthingworth - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 02:12:10 EST ID:FHw9OpsL No.145469 Ignore Report Reply
I've blown some Klonopin, the heavily drank for 6 hours after (this was years ago; I love my booze still), and it didn't do shit for me. You're probably better of parachuting


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Henry Bardson - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:52:12 EST ID:JuZ7s587 No.144727
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So quick post. Is this shit addictive? Because I post here from finding it works on the gaba.
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Emma Clengerworth - Sun, 07 Apr 2019 12:17:20 EST ID:mQgGApCN No.145290 Ignore Report Reply
>>145284
You just spread yoyr dosing out.
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Caroline Blellerson - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 04:28:30 EST ID:/I1Ld4ID No.145460 Ignore Report Reply
I read that Pregabalin reaches peak plasma concentrations within 1.5 hours, is this the same as saying that's when it peaks?
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Albert Cushdale - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 13:38:52 EST ID:/PjPUQIT No.145465 Ignore Report Reply
>>145460
And up to 4hrs or so if you took it with food.


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Nigel Sorryspear - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 22:13:14 EST ID:l/p0w9pr No.145183
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Do benzos really help with anxiety when taken regularly at a steady dose over long periods of time, or will the positive effect all be gone within a few weeks/months?
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kakarot - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 04:35:48 EST ID:+X+UwtFQ No.145306 Ignore Report Reply
You have to deal with your irl problems and acknowledge your stresses. Benzos are not a long term solution for anxiety. You will need more and more, you will get more and more depersonalized and it will be extremely hard to kick. I've been there and it's not pretty, your life will pass you and the withdrawals will be similar to opioid withdrawal which can kill you. Benzos are good for hard times and stressful days of heightened anxiety. Drink 4 plastic bottles of water a day and take walks or if you're a badass take 2-4 mile runs, cut out all substances but take multivitamins and get your blood checked to find vitamin deficiencies.
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Eugene Moppertit - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:09:20 EST ID:ny+ETlxh No.145434 Ignore Report Reply
>>145306
faggots like you are the worst.
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Edward Homblemeg - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:09:08 EST ID:/I1Ld4ID No.145446 Ignore Report Reply
>>145306
I think this is a good idea. I have overcome 5 years of hard anxiety completely. I'm even interested in sharing how I did it, if I could. One of my focuses was on triggers and reversing triggers related to negative feelings/emotions. Though I can't help that much right now (uni).


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Ebenezer Sundlebat - Sun, 10 Mar 2019 07:04:04 EST ID:8wRyP6Vh No.144971
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How do you guys get benzos? I have panic attacks a few times a week, cant fucking go out in public without being hyper vigilant, and avoid certain things altogether...I tell the shrink this, but she just keeps upping my prazosin does because all my issues stem from PTDS.

Wtf.
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Eliza Bommerfere - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:10:19 EST ID:ny+ETlxh No.145424 Ignore Report Reply
>>145395
underrated post
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:06:18 EST ID:I6YS7H0F No.145432 Ignore Report Reply
>>145395
Benzos can be utilized as a tool to recognize problems occurring. In no way did I intend to make benzos seem only to be a band aid. Rather, using medication in conjunction with therapy has the best possibly therapeutic outcome for the individual. While someone can use medication to reorganize their life, I do not think the majority of people use meds in such a manner. Pills are thought to be a quick fix or temporary solution. Again, the average person is not going to receive a medication and think "well, I can use this to re-map and reorganize my entire being," which is unfortunate.

>>145424
I second this.
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Eugene Moppertit - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 15:12:15 EST ID:ny+ETlxh No.145437 Ignore Report Reply
>>145432
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