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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

LORAZEPAM, is it big boy benzo?

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- Fri, 22 May 2020 07:16:45 EST dmfizLL4 No.148962
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Hi hope im not breaking any rules here, just got a couple of inquiries:

I've had IV midazolam a couple of times and I loved it, now I have a steady supply of lorazepam, what does /benz/ think of this chemical?

Pros/cons and some subjective info is appreciated.
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lol - Sun, 24 May 2020 13:56:53 EST BqpvRW4y No.148993 Reply
I always thought it was something like 2mg loraz is about equal to 1mg Xanax, maybe a little closer to each other but I'm bad at math. How have you been enjoying them so far? Today is one of those days I miss benzos since I woke up with horrible nausea and anxiety.
Charles Gummlechick - Mon, 25 May 2020 04:45:22 EST XiHqRv0i No.149006 Reply
I've only ever had them in psych wards, they're pretty good but anything would be in that situation, I like at low doses at least they're a bit more anxiolytic and a bit less sedating than diaz or alp, but again I've never taken it with a clean head

Bump While Benz'd (BWB): Blackouts, Brown-outs, Medicinal Successes, and Collective Amnesia, Pt. IX

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 07:02:45 EST wsOFceLF No.147800
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The old thread is not only no longer bumping, but is also out of date (Summer is long gone for those of us north of the equator). Several posters over the past couple of years have really stressed the importance of harm reduction and tapering guides to be pinned to the top of the board, but I have never seen any harm reduction thread pinned to the top of /benz/. As such, post when you're on benzos, have benzo or GABAergic questions not deemed suitable for their own thread(s), and whatever else you can conceive of when discussing benzodiazepines and their related drugs.

I would be remiss not to mention this thread, and board, are home to discussions of not only benzodiazepines, but also barbiturates, thienodiazepines (e.g. etizolam), RC benzos, gabapentin, pregabalin, Soma (carisoprodol), GHB and related analogues, phenibut, and other GABAergic drugs.

For the sake of safety, refer to the Ashton Manual for dosage conversions, medically advised tapering schedules, and other benzo-related facts (e.g. half-life, active metabolites, etc.). The Ashton Manual is essentially the benzo bible: https://benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm

Medically safe rapid tapers involve a 10% dosage reduction per week or even per month. A modified version of this taper is to reduce dosages by a maximum of 10% per week (or month) until reaching 20% of the initial daily dosage. Upon reaching 20% of the original dosage, a person can then taper by 5% per week (or month) until their taper is complete. The main goal of tapering is to continue decreasing doses or at least remain at the same dosage for an extra few weeks or months rather than increase dosage. Tapering is a long and potentially deadly process with horrid withdrawal symptoms that can be mitigated by following medical guidelines and sticking to empirically reviewed taper schedules. Harvard University published a succinct, yet informative piece regarding CDC- and FDA-related guidelines for opioid tapering, which can be utilized for tapering benzos: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/undoing-the-harm-tapering-down-from-high-dose-opioids-2019051016622

BWB: 30mg diazepam, 20mg hydrocodone, 150mg hydroxyzine, 30mg cyclobenzaprine, and a glass of wine. I'm about to take 10mg zolpidem and pass out.
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Cedric Drarringson - Sun, 24 May 2020 22:47:50 EST 55ySySTQ No.149003 Reply
Seems like it. At about 100 mg and am just uncoordinated and forgetful. Also dropping shit. I do have a tolerance, but it's from 4 months of moderate use.
Cedric Drarringson - Sun, 24 May 2020 23:00:39 EST 55ySySTQ No.149004 Reply
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Indeed, this is probably the case. 42 mg in evening, 48 mg 9 minutes ago, 90mg in total. Not that fucked up, just completely uncoordinated and no short term memory. I think I'll just play vidya and see what happens. Liver will take awhile to metabolize this.

How to boost klonopin

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- Thu, 21 May 2020 18:42:04 EST Dgh6Eyw/ No.148956
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I've got a script for 54 1mg klonopin. I'm wondering what I can combine to make a strong high. Does CBD work? What about omeprazole? Just want want to feel euphoric. No weed btw.
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Charles Tootstock - Fri, 22 May 2020 20:53:02 EST 86LjTa31 No.148985 Reply

Just because you got high doesn't mean the drug Is euphoric. I feel like you and the circlejerk retard in this thread dont know what the word "euphoria" means.

And you really do come across as a dumb teenager.
Matilda Sisslebut - Sat, 23 May 2020 00:38:31 EST Dgh6Eyw/ No.148987 Reply
Agree to disagree but benzos can be euphoric for some people. It's not as euphoric like molly or weed but the relief from feeling like I'm going to die makes me feel amazing.
Isabella Gurryhood - Sun, 24 May 2020 22:29:39 EST D2qpt+Rm No.149002 Reply
who fucking cares?

at the end of the day OP you can't feel great on them. best case scenario you take 5mg and sleep for 2 days. that's really all tthey're good for unless you have genuine panic attacks you have to quell


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- Sun, 24 May 2020 22:23:08 EST D2qpt+Rm No.149000
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what's the deal with klonopin? I just feel fucking WEIRD man, and not in a good way. How do i make this enjoyable? Should i switch to another benzo?

Getting (slightly) emotional on my Klonopin

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- Sun, 17 May 2020 09:52:02 EST dO7EI2pa No.148918
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As y'all know I've been on Clonazepam for quite a few years now.

Well in the past few days I've noticed that in the first few hours of taking it, I seem to be a bit hypersensitive or even, well, a little anxious. After a while I chill out, but like day before yesterday I had to talk to the principal of the school I teach at and she had to repeatedly assure me over the course of 30 minutes that I was doing fine, that being hired for only a couple of months means of course I won't be perfect and make mistakes, and that she has absolutely no plans to terminate or thinks that I'm "not cut out for this job" (which is what I kept thinking she thought of me).

Then today I took my afternoon dose and I let slip to someone in another department that one of our departments is having an overhaul, and I was reprimanded saying that it was supposed to be kept under wraps. I was completely in a panic (not anxiety attack, but convinced that I was going to get terminated for my verbal diarrhea). My principal and my foreign affairs manager both said it wasn't the end of the world, that they clarified what was going on with the head of that department, and told me just to be careful what I say to certain people on campus. They had to take me into a meeting room and repeatedly tell me it's okay as I said "I'm so sorry" about thousand times.... however, eventually I hit my benzo plateau and was able to get back to work.

Anyone else ever gotten overly emotional on Clonazepam, even for a temporary moment? Or maybe it's just me still getting used to my new job and my new life here in a new country......
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High Strung - Tue, 19 May 2020 07:28:16 EST uMfAgQG2 No.148936 Reply
Oh agreed! When I came here 5 years ago to study for a summer in Zhengzhou I loved the hospitality, kindness, and the constant inviting me out to events, and the same has been true this time around: I've already been on a date and people have invited me to late-night kickbacks filled with great food and conversation. My neighbors and the shopkeepers love the silly laowai who speaks in broken sentences with funny hand gestures and exaggerated faces (I'm a very expressive and flamboyant person with my nonverbal communication, so most of the time people understand the point I'm getting across).

I didn't use WeChat or text much in 2015 because our student delegation were given cheap PandaPhones so my Chinese classmates would call and wouldn't text. So this time around it's a good bit different.

It's funny because when I lived in Russia for a bit, it was the exact opposite: Russians seem stoic, cold, and even a bit grouchy when you're first getting to know them, but via text message they're actually rather expressive imo.

Anyway, in terms of benzos, interestingly enough my new GP had no problem prescribing my Clonazepam. In America so many people, upon switching doctors, get taken off their benzos cuz "ZOMG BENZOS = THE DEVIL!!!" but my new doctor was just like "Clonazepam? Okay. For sleep and PTSD? Yes? Okay."

I also find it funny that Chinese 2mg Klonopin pills resemble tiny breath mints. Seriously they look like those mini-Altoids.
Barnaby Sabblematch - Thu, 21 May 2020 23:42:42 EST 86LjTa31 No.148960 Reply
Obviously the face that you're in a totally different country and totally different culture. You answered your own question. You just want attention since Katz and dr.m and those other namefags aren't around anymore to stroke you off.

Fuck off you fucking faggot.

Gabapentin wd seizure

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- Mon, 04 May 2020 02:27:09 EST fZVNY1BO No.148841
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I'm used to terrible, drawn out detox every month off this dhit. The other day I had a grand Mal seizure. I have not felt the same since
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George Buzzfuck - Thu, 07 May 2020 14:00:42 EST drXTBcjz No.148861 Reply
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Yo dude you're me, do you notice it gives ypu twitches (clonic jerks) - you know high doses of PREgabalin can actually CAUSE a seizure, someone i know took only like 200 or 300mg, was twitching worse and worse, entire body then started convulsing - had a grand mal seizure for about a minute and a half, she had no memory of hwat happened but one jerk led to bigger jerks

so lads if ur jerkin on t he gabas take it easy

what's gabapentin like compared with pregab? I only have pregabaheys
John Pemmlefutch - Tue, 12 May 2020 16:47:58 EST IcMQrZwa No.148896 Reply
Sucks compared to pregab, especially with a high dose habit because you have to stagger doses for it to work. It takes hours to get right if you don't have enough in your system, or you have to just take pulls a retarded amount of times every day. In effects, it feels almost the same to me, but lyrica has way more of a trippy aspect to it. Oh btw I never went to the hospital and I'm about to run out of pills by tomorrow afternoon tops. Hopefully it doesn't happen again because I don't have benzos or alcohol to prevent a seizure and I'm gonna be dopesick on top of it. If I seize out again I'll have to go, which I hate doing and I know is gonna be hell considering how sick I'll be and unable to get drugs to make it bearable.
Ebenezer Brookfoot - Sat, 23 May 2020 21:49:40 EST tTBfXtsZ No.148992 Reply
I know it isn't gabapentin but phenibut is similar in action and gave me seizures each time I would try to quit for a year. I was finally just done with it after the last grand Mal but goddamn. Seizures always suck and it can take a month to get right in your head and let your back and muscles heal.

I fell into a fucking camping table at a festival and had my neck stuck in the 45° metal bar that supports the legs. If it wasn't for an epileptic "neighbor" camping next to us that knew the sound of a seizure who knows what would have happened. My body was trashed after that one in particular. I figured fuck it I'm bedridden for this month anyway, might as well just quit cold turkey. I ended up not having another seizure that time, and haven't had another since.

Luckily phenibut is just out of reach enough that I haven't been tempted to order more. You've got this OP.

Benzo alternative

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- Fri, 22 May 2020 23:08:15 EST d5I9TZcm No.148986
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Benzos make me better. They make me more assertive, more dominant, reduce my overthinking enormously etc. So all in all they make me more like the person i wish i was. I have easy and cheap access to them and I'm not a regular user. I use them for example when I have to do like a seminar presentation, or meet up with someone i haven't seen in a long time and they help be break the ice easier and have more fluent conversations. You get the point.

The problem is, i know how addictive this shit is, and I can't be doing them all my life.
How do I become the person benzos make me, without using them?

Gabapentin and Pregabalin: GABAergic Drugs of Importance

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 06:54:55 EST pDyRe7aP No.147680
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There is a possibility of receiving a script for either in the coming future. Personally, I only have experience with gabapentin, and holy shit, the variance of effects between dosages can really sneak up on you. I have never had the opportunity to take pregabalin, but I've head stories from loving the drug to downright loathing its existence without anyone falling in the middle range.

Who prefers one over the other and why?

Are the drugs better in isolation or taken in combination with other drugs?
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Samuel Fucklewill - Thu, 14 May 2020 19:01:31 EST drXTBcjz No.148910 Reply
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>lyrica is euphoric as fuck for me and even smallish doses make me really happy
It does, doesn't it? I feel like nothing really grinds up against me as it normally does, and that i'm happy to talk to people and sort of smile more.

Just don't take too much fellas, it can take a while to kick in and before you know it the extra doses you took catch up with you and youre twitching like you've got parkison
DTMO - Thu, 21 May 2020 03:24:03 EST rydVB5b2 No.148952 Reply
Yeah, it gets bad especially as I usually combine it with meth. Fuck I miss phenibut, even more euphoric and the nootropic/stimulant effects paired perfectly with meth.
DTMO - Thu, 21 May 2020 03:51:25 EST rydVB5b2 No.148953 Reply
Also pregabalin gets hallucinogenic at high doses and markedly increases the effects of LSD.
You say that like benzos don't slow you down and make you stupider (while heavily benzed anyway).
I gotta say that phenibut was better than pregabalin imo.

Oxazepam dosage

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- Tue, 19 May 2020 11:51:29 EST 0+38cr5Y No.148937
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What would be the best dosage without tolerance?
BenzKing - Tue, 19 May 2020 12:09:17 EST efpStMuB No.148940 Reply
IMO Oxazepam and Xanax are really similar, keep to small regular doses and you won't gain a tolerance. It's better to space it over time.
DTMO - Thu, 21 May 2020 03:21:12 EST rydVB5b2 No.148951 Reply
You must be kidding. Oxazepam takes like 4 hours to kick in, Xanax is fast acting. Also oxazepam is trash tier and barely gets you benzed if you have a tolerance.

Clonazapam compared to valium

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- Wed, 13 May 2020 08:21:01 EST drXTBcjz No.148901
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what differeces do you notice? I've had valium plenty of times and am going to be given some clonaz and was wondering since they're both like long acting benzos, are they similar?

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Sidney Mallerfield - Sun, 17 May 2020 21:07:35 EST I0wy1o66 No.148920 Reply
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cant control myself lads

its been 3 year since my girlfriend killed herself alone and no matter how much i keep telling myself i have to do good becuase she'd want me to the pain is just too sharp jesus christ benzos aren't a good thing but what the hell else is there fuck t his
lol - Mon, 18 May 2020 14:25:43 EST BqpvRW4y No.148922 Reply
Hope things get better man, just be safe. Eventually they will becomes unignoreable problem if you keep taking them to combat grief. Try to slow down a little at minimum if you can, be safe
William Hazzleman - Tue, 19 May 2020 14:27:42 EST I0wy1o66 No.148942 Reply
thanksm an soz was feeling in a rut and being edgy last night

good or bad idea

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- Thu, 07 May 2020 06:09:31 EST zvgiEJFt No.148856
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I found a dude that has a regular supply of bars. Would it be a wise idea to try getting through and eventually off of my fentanyl addiction, (like maybe a week or two) through using small doses of xanax or could that lead to something worse?
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BenzKing - Tue, 19 May 2020 12:00:40 EST efpStMuB No.148938 Reply
I'm sure it definitely would help as benzos are a great way to treat a number of withdrawals, howver you must decrease the dose throughout your withdrawal.
BenzKing - Tue, 19 May 2020 12:02:20 EST efpStMuB No.148939 Reply
Precisely, if you use regularly take them for more than 2 weeks you will develop a dependancy.
lol - Tue, 19 May 2020 13:48:41 EST BqpvRW4y No.148941 Reply
You're playing with fire, don't take them together or start to or else you'll really be in trouble, you have to be very strict with dosage and how many days you use it do you don't end up trading one addiction for another

drug test for benzos

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- Mon, 18 May 2020 13:43:24 EST RXO9mTso No.148921
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How long does Xanax stay in your urine? I took like .25 mg over the course of 2 days, and I have a drug test soon. I've seen some sources that say benzos take 3 weeks to clear, but others say 3-4 days. Which one is right? Sorry for retarded shitpost but I need a job due to this covid-19 shit and I can't afford to be blacklisted from my industry either
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Thomas Toothood - Mon, 18 May 2020 15:49:09 EST BGH46ohv No.148925 Reply
Depends on the test, but the cheap normal tests with ... .25mg of xanax should test negative after several days
Caroline Snodbanks - Mon, 18 May 2020 19:08:49 EST Pq9YfRBZ No.148929 Reply
Thanks for the replies.

It was .5 mg, I took two .25 mg tablets during 48 hours. Last dosage was on Thursday (May 14th). Test will be on Wednesday. Just kinda freaking out, but I should hopefully be fine I think? I'm 5'10 and 180 pounds
lol - Tue, 19 May 2020 06:59:09 EST BqpvRW4y No.148935 Reply
You should be good I'd think. In the future always try to give yourself a week minimum if you want to be safer

Gabapentin shakes

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- Thu, 07 May 2020 03:15:50 EST ElZYhoes No.148855
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Hey guys i started taking gabapentin to ease withdrawal from opioids but now I have tremors in my legs and arms. Is this normal? How do I stop it? Is it dangerous? Thanks for any help you can offer.

Accidentally replied instead of making a new thread. Mb.
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John Pemmlefutch - Tue, 12 May 2020 16:40:03 EST IcMQrZwa No.148894 Reply
Probably gabapentin withdrawal. Even if you take as prescribed you'll get interoperability withdrawal. Since gabapentin has such an inconsistent BA, sometimes a pill won't even get you unsick if your stomach doesn't have enough acid. If it's possible, get switched to pregabalin.
Frederick Wunnerken - Sun, 17 May 2020 01:56:41 EST GTMiJPet No.148917 Reply
Yeah fuck this shit. I'm going back to just drinking daily instead for a few months instead if I can. I ain't tripping about detoxing for a week or two in the hospital bit fuck these multiple months long withdrawals. I've kicked dope, booze, fuckin CLAM, but thus shit just seems to neve fucking end when u stop. I'd rather be on some hard core ass shit even than keep dealing with the majority of every month ate up detoxing off shit that gives me seizures. Tbh I nver had a problem kicking anything ever til these damn pills. Gabapentin wd is bullshit because it seems to last for fucking ever. I went a whole damn month without and didn't even feel the least bit of relief. I honestly wish I never used these to get off dope cause this shits worse in the long run.

Which prescription should I get?

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- Sat, 09 May 2020 12:52:25 EST Pvt3vkla No.148869
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My psychiatrist offered me anxiety meds before, even tho my anxiety is pretty mild and limited strictly to social interaction. I declined at first, but now I'm looking for something to enhance my weed high, my tolerance is insane. I think it was klonopin she offered me. Should I get that? Or something else? Whats the strongest one? I'll just ask for that, at the highest dosage allowed. She's not a bitch so I think she'll go for it.

I also have a seizure disorder, but I haven't had one in about a year since I started smoking weed again. I hear some of the benzos treat seizures, so maybe i'll take those ones, but really I just need something to enhance weed. Something that kicks in fast would be great so I can do them at the same time.
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Shitting Horrykot - Tue, 12 May 2020 04:43:29 EST DoP7Ljak No.148886 Reply
get some valium op theyre really relaxing even at small doses. Theyre not as life ruining as some of the other benzos. Pretty mellow also I've noticed I dont get withdrawals or rebound from valium that iget with xans or klonopin. Best of luck op
Walter Forringwill - Tue, 12 May 2020 09:50:13 EST Pvt3vkla No.148893 Reply
nigga I smoke L's not J's. but yeah thanks for the advice.

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