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Is 10mg of Diclazepam a day too much?

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- Sun, 27 Oct 2019 18:52:30 EST sIP+izJd No.147550
File: 1572216750542.jpg -(54891B / 53.60KB, 640x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Is 10mg of Diclazepam a day too much?
Is this a terrible amount? I have had a much worse habit in the past (10mg Clonazolam a day), Diclaz seems nice because it's functional and I can actually remember stuff while taking it. Is this a recipe for disaster or is it reasonable assuming I don't up the dosage?
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DemonBoner69 - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:08:38 EST sIP+izJd No.147604 Reply
The pic is not from the source so I don't think it's the source you think it is. My source does not under-dose as far as I could tell and I have been with them for years
DemonBoner69 - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:24:11 EST sIP+izJd No.147605 Reply
Thanks for the advice it's much appreciated. Ill slowly taper off diclaz me thinks
Edward Sebbershit - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 00:01:29 EST c0naBhCl No.147609 Reply
Just saying, source in the pic sucks, so to anyone don't buy from them unless you enjoy ethyl alcohol labeled as RC benzos.

Mixing Z-Drugs and Benzos

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- Fri, 25 Oct 2019 05:20:05 EST cEaJD34v No.147529
File: 1571995205170.png -(55010B / 53.72KB, 350x96) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Mixing Z-Drugs and Benzos
How safe is this combo? Or is it even worth the time?

I've got temazepam, clonazepam and etizolam, and randomly just got given a bottle of 7.5mg zopiclone.

I'm already on around 1mg clonazepam and 4mg etizolam but I'm tempted to eat a zopi to see what all the buzz is about. Are there any interactions I need to worry about? Is zopiclone even worth trying to abuse? Or should I just eat some more clonazepam?

Ty benz
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 05:16:36 EST wsOFceLF No.147536 Reply
Avoid alcohol and possibly have someone on standby in the event of blacking out and doing really stupid, dangerous shit. People report plenty of sleep walking and related activities on z-drugs without abusing them, so there’s a decent amount of safety precautions to take. Driving, stealing shit, cooking/baking, etc. are all relatively common. Benzos merely add to the possibility of blacking out.
Clara Dartstone - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 00:19:16 EST gBgOEBPk No.147572 Reply
good shit. etiz doesn't work for me because i take tegretol but eh

i'd add zolpidem to the list of slid mixers. no worries about interactions except potentiation, which you do sound newish to fuckin around and wilding, so maybe just take it slow initially and feel out how benzos might boostt

basically all gabagergic drugs can be mixed, they all potentiate each other, and you just need to be aware of what level and be smart. alcohol obviously basically is a huuuuuge boost and can kill people. i'd say mixing pills if you aren't being a fucking idiot is generally just something thats fine and you'll be ok

i mena ambien you'll get a lil weird and if you're benzed the fuck out yeah you might be dumb but you'll be fine

zoplicone wasn't my shit but hey it's a thing. just recently got into flutazolam, highly recommend. i'd try the zopi, i know i'd be swallowin some if i had em. honestly etiz i really am jealous of everyone else getting to take and it sounds great and probably your best bet if you wanna get a bit benzed, zoplicone is euphoric and i'd go that route for some flavor imo but the flavor itself actually in a literal sense is gonna suck bud. enjoy
Fanny Snodfuck - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 16:54:39 EST rFI7biev No.147600 Reply
Yeah my response is probably not relevant to your question, sorry. That said, I've been taking Ambien for years (But not on a daily or constant basis), at doses of 10 to 20 mg. Ambien once resulted in extremely pleasant effects such as mild euphoric states, interesting altered thought, increased creativity, visual distortions, other mild emotional effects, as well as strong calming/sedating effects. There have been times when I've stopped taking any Ambien for several months, but even so, these effects have since stopped happening completely. I've been regularly taking benzos for years at so-called therapeutic doses, with only occasionally indulging in a recreational dose.

Due to these personal observations I've led myself to believe that a long-term tolerance to Ambien may have developed, possibly related to a cross-tolerance between Ambien and the various other benzos that I take regularly.

I really miss the days that Ambien was a mild to moderately magical pill.

Xanax vs. Klonopin

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- Sat, 19 Oct 2019 14:55:47 EST O/PA2IgX No.147470
File: 1571511347565.jpg -(24287B / 23.72KB, 682x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Xanax vs. Klonopin
Which is stronger and which will give you the better high?

I've been prescribed both before. I have to say Klonopin is stronger and I feel like the buzz last longer. Anyone familiar with it or take it? I feel like it's the better Benzo of the two.
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Eliza Blacklefuck - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 22:48:51 EST GKycNTlf No.147558 Reply
>klonopin is less sedating
False. Klonopin is more sedating/hypnotic than Xanax. In fact, it's often prescribed as a sleep aid.
Hannah Bunville - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 09:55:55 EST wsFDCeYP No.147562 Reply
Not necessarily false. Different people have different reactions to drugs. For me kpins are.... stimulating. Yep, stimulating motherfuckers. I'm a weirdo tho.
Reuben Clillywudging - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:25:42 EST fslTYm4+ No.147563 Reply
I prefer klonopin. You can take a pill in the morning and feel good for the rest of the day. You have to take xanax multiple time a day and thus easily take too much

How Much Tagmet?

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- Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:16:02 EST GMDwFY9J No.147537
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How much tagamet is a good dose for potentiating benzodiazepines
dr. m - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 15:40:14 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147538 Reply
Stick with 200-600mg. This stuff will give you man boobs if you take it "regularly," like even once a week. For that reason, personally I'd stick with just 200mg or even less if you'll end up doing it more than once a month, or like maybe 200-400mg if it's a one time thing. 100mg once a week seemed to be okay in terms of side effects.

Feeling retarded..

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- Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:39:26 EST c0naBhCl No.147452
File: 1571434766265.png -(328355B / 320.66KB, 682x397) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Feeling retarded..
Hey him/she/it benzonauts,

I have a silly question. Finally received a pack of both etiz and diclam today. Without realizing my solvent--which I copped long ago--was vegetable glycerin (VG), not PG, I mixed one baggie each into their respective bottles. Heated them in a water bottle, and it has seemed to dissolve well! There are posts on circlejerk saying this a no-no, but if it dissolves who cares?! Am I in the wrong here or what?

Happy hump day my niggas
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Cedric Mapperdere - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 18:31:24 EST c0naBhCl No.147455 Reply
Idk I was strong as hell when I took a few pinky dips, and now 1-2 mL won't do shit.
dr. m - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 15:06:51 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147505 Reply
Pinky dips as in eyeballed doses? No shit it's going to be stronger. You can easily fit ~20-60mg on your pinky without trying, if not a lot more.
Molly Brookshaw - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 00:03:20 EST cEaJD34v No.147527 Reply
It may 'dissolve' in VG but it won't be uniform. As >>147454 said, mixing your VG solution with PG may help it spread a bit better. PG/VG mix nicely (as the VG will help with the taste). That's what I'd recommend doing rather than just dosing VG, as you can't be confident with the amount you're dosing with VG.

Does anyone know how to make a vial of alprazolam solution?

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- Sat, 05 Oct 2019 00:44:09 EST V4uxwiiN No.147321
File: 1570250649185.jpg -(50065B / 48.89KB, 1200x1200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does anyone know how to make a vial of alprazolam solution?
I am planning on ordering maybe 100mg or 250mg of pure alprazolam powder and want to make a vial for volumetric dosing. I have read on some deepweb forum a guide but I did not fully understand.

All I understood was you need empty vial of course, measuring syringe or cup, marked dropper, vodka 95 proof at least, and then just swish it around until it dissolves. But I haven't seen a formula that explains how to make a specific dosage at a specific ml.

Like it said to make a 1mg dropper at 0.25ml you need 12.5 ml of solution. But I don't know how those numbers where calculated. Anyone here can help me out?
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Edward Clerrysark - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 03:01:34 EST vee5sLrG No.147515 Reply
You can get PG at any vape shop and it's not expensive at all. Why use rubbing alcohol?
Betsy Gushchadge - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:30:34 EST Xkj6KzN8 No.147521 Reply

>smelly vape shop with 18 year old top knot condescending faggot cashier

>young woman with a danky in khakis

1.50$ for 2 pints of iso....
Betsy Gushchadge - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:33:14 EST Xkj6KzN8 No.147522 Reply
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> that feeling when you just force injected a bunch of goo into your precious cubital vein.

L-theanin vs Ashwagandha

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- Fri, 04 Oct 2019 04:37:34 EST 3KnLUQBa No.147306
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Which one do you prefer? and what other gaba supplements/nootropics are there out there. I think theanin is more effective but I only tried ashwagandha once and it felt like the wind was blowing on me ... not sure if good or bad.
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Caroline Dubberstet - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 12:18:56 EST U407LM4X No.147489 Reply
I take ashwagandha every night to improve sleep quality and lower cortisol.
Molly Mivingwock - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 16:33:22 EST 6/XEByZ3 No.147490 Reply
Does Ashwaghanda interfere with Benzos? I've been experimenting with Xanax and Valium recently and now I'm wondering if it'll increase the risk of blackout or increase tolerance or something.

I don't take ashwaganda every day and I rarely experiment with benzos so it's possible to just time it without each other but now I'm curious.
Priscilla Hurryshaw - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:15:46 EST wsFDCeYP No.147500 Reply
Well it shouldn't as it works through different mechanism than benzos. I think I used alpraz and clonazepam a few times when supplementing with it and didn't notice any stronger side effects than usual. It was a long time ago though and my memory ain't that great to say I can't be wrong here.

japanese benzo help

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- Fri, 18 Oct 2019 20:07:26 EST gBgOEBPk No.147459
File: 1571443646899.png -(4109464B / 3.92MB, 3360x2100) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. japanese benzo help
hey y'all. been a while. like over a year at least? wow!

okay, anyways! i got high and ended up ordering some japanese benzos. the equivalency chart i found is literally tailored to the japanese population and 0.8 alprazolam = 5mg diazepam there so i have no goddamn idea what is really up or down.

can anyone give me equivalencies, just so i know how much damage i'm doing to myself tolerance and dependence wise, for:
  • Rilmazafone
  • Flutazolam
  • Flutoprazepam

also any experiences or thoughts are welcome, i've done reading but info is obviously pretty sparse and always happy to hear some more anecdotes and what not.

thanks y'all
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John Trotforth - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 20:23:37 EST gBgOEBPk No.147495 Reply
though the nasal rilmazafone i will 100% say was placebo and me being on varously timed benzos
dr. m - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:19:09 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147496 Reply
You didn't even read my previous post(s).


The wiki says it's roughly equipotent to diazepam, so mg for mg it's actually one of the less potent ones.

So 10mg flutazolam equals 10mg diazepam.
John Trotforth - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 23:29:05 EST gBgOEBPk No.147497 Reply
im a fucking retard lmao holy shit

yeah sorry been a lil fucked and idk how i didn't like have that click when i read it before or then and im just a dumvass sorry lmao thanks dude

so flutazolam is crazy good guys. like it isn't the best benzo in the world but it has euphoria inducing its sedative and a little like anxiolytic and disorienting in the good way. my tablets are 4mg. i have temazepam and these these things n hand plus diazepam and gabapentin, and these, esp with the half life make them great to abuse.

i am interested in mexazolam, does anyone have any experience with other japanese benzos? back when i was in the rc scene this whole thing was well known to exist so some of you gotta have some recomendations

love all of you guys


Anyone else redose in an unhealthy way,?

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- Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:32:02 EST IErahAwd No.147410
File: 1571236322107.jpg -(113154B / 110.50KB, 864x1536) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Anyone else redose in an unhealthy way,?
Like get 50 bars, (probably over 2mg honestly ) good presses but you wake up on Sunday at 3pm and find out your gf walked out after my blackout ass tried to smack her at 3 am over her doing last of the kratom. Don't give me no clam either, that shit almost killed me bro. Any bar tards have any tips on not to over do it?
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Augustus Pockgold - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 14:57:44 EST gNIXakDo No.147417 Reply
Have you had seizures? I have some keppra and Levetiracetam for seizures. Do you know if normal anti seizure meds work if you're seizing from wds?
dr. m - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:42:16 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147421 Reply
They should reduce the seizure severity, frequency, and perhaps duration, but it's WAY more complicated than that. It's somewhat common practice to prescribe a minimal dosage of non-benzo anti-epileptics in someone experiencing severe benzo WD alongside being epileptic or having previous seizures, or in situations in which there's an "above-average" chance of seizures during a taper/detox.

However, not all seizures are the same, and not all seizures are equally suppressed by the same medication at the same doses. A doctor who specializes in neurology would know much more about it than most/any of us.

tl;dr yes they should partially prevent seizures, or at least make them shorter or less severe, but their effectiveness depends on lots of factors. Don't expect an anti-epileptic medication to somehow protect you entirely from benzo WD-associated seizures, ESPECIALLY if your daily chemical "baseline" already includes anti-epileptics because you're an epileptic. Even when taking those medications as normal when withdrawing from benzos, your seizure threshold is significantly reduced.

ANYONE with epilepsy or past experience of having a seizure, especially at least 2 seizures unrelated to taking a specific drug like LSD/fake "LSD," MDMA/fake "MDMA etc., should NEVER EVER endure benzo withdrawals or even benzo cessation, unless they're following a very conservative taper schedule. If it's a moderate to extreme rate of tapering, it should definitely be done under supervision of a healthcare professional.
George Backledit - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 07:43:29 EST ozYJJDZv No.147465 Reply
This is just the type of stuff that happens when you get barred out

Got 12.5mg Ambien Pills. Can I get high?

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- Mon, 14 Oct 2019 17:56:48 EST BreL9mXD No.147382
File: 1571090208915.jpg -(2658056B / 2.53MB, 3968x2976) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Got 12.5mg Ambien Pills. Can I get high?
So I'm British, living in South Africa growing weed. I got anxiety so I'm on like Xanax 1mg - Loprazolam 2mg - Diazepam 20mg a day, with 10mg Trepiline & 30mg Mirtazapine at night.

Now this stupid African doctor gave me a prescription for fucking Ambien (we don't have that in the UK...) Was using my Loprazolam for midday and Ambien is meant to make you sleep?....

Like how much of this shit do I need to take to at least get a strong buzz going on

Pic is banana bread Because why tf not. Thanks.
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dr. m - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 18:54:43 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147403 Reply

Your tolerance is way too high to get a buzz from Ambien man. Ambien is a de facto benzo, with weak anxiolytic, muscle relaxant, and anti-spileptic properties. It just happens to be particularly strong in terms of being a hypnotic. Would you expect some extra 10mg valium XR tablet or two to magically be able to get you high at this point in terms of your tolerance level?
Henry Smallspear - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:16:26 EST sS4akryh No.147450 Reply
banana bread bro here, i pretty much replaced 7-3mg mirtazapine with ambien. worked great and only get 10 per month, which is couple more than i truly need. also get 20mg diazepam/week. lower doses, like 7-3mg of mirtaz make it much more sleepy of a drug
Henry Smallspear - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:17:26 EST sS4akryh No.147451 Reply
ambien works in ways beyond being just super hypnotic like temaz or something.

20mg Baclofen

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!MC.Aq.K9Wo - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 20:26:26 EST ZfAmbzYi No.147404
File: 1571185586194.jpg -(2211612B / 2.11MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 20mg Baclofen
I know this isnt a benzo but I'd rather post here instead of /other/

I used to enjoy the fuck out of 30-40mg baclofen before I was hooked on benzos. I'd say it was my favorite by far

But then I got sucked in when Clonaxolam first came out, before we realized it wasn't just the "better version of xanax and clonazepam"
I eventually got on Gabapentin and tapered down from 3-5g.

I take 4-800mg GABApentin a day (epilepsy)

It still gives me a little buzz in 3-4000mg doses, but not like the times I've had no acute tolerance after being totally off it.

It's been about 3 years since I was abusing any kind of GABA drugs.. I got a few dozen 20mg Baclofen at my disposal

I used to get a strong drunk like buzz from over 30mg, which was way better than any benzo/GABA drug

Pic related is a .2ish shard that I IVd about half of an hour ago, but I've been using IV meth once every week or so for the past year
Henry Smallspear - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:13:24 EST sS4akryh No.147449 Reply
baclo works on gaba b like phenibut and ghb. its enjoyable because it has vague ghb euphoria. I used to love baclo before i had benzo tolerance but i lost ability to really enjoy them, good luck.

93 5453 XR?

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- Thu, 17 Oct 2019 15:47:16 EST BPJjZTq/ No.147430
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Pretty sure the ones I have are pressed, haven't seen these anywhere tho.

Someone said to parachute it but if it's pressed is i doubt it's actually going to be extended release.
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Hamilton Pangerfadge - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:11:25 EST BPJjZTq/ No.147435 Reply
What would be the best way to consume one of these? Parachute?
Hamilton Pangerfadge - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:01:41 EST BPJjZTq/ No.147437 Reply
Haha water ended up spilling on it and it foamed up into goop, defenitly pressed as I'm pretty sure that's the cheap binder and fillers not dissolving in water. Still ate it and I feel pretty good.


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- Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:15:10 EST HiEUvUVB No.147400
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Just found a blister pack of these on the street, lucky me! It's a benzo but I can't find any reports of people using it to get high. Going to take 20mg with a couple beers and go to the park, will report back after.

Has anyone ever had these before? I thought I knew of every scripted benzo in Canada but this one's completely new to me.

Wish me luck and calm.
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Basil Harrytene - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:26:24 EST 9Tb+1z1e No.147412 Reply
Right!? I find a lot of random pills around but never anything I can actually use. I ead a bit more apparently it's really rare to get scripted these. They feel kinda like diazepam, I ended up taking 30mg at around 5:30 and was still feeling good when I got into bed around 12am.

"A small clinical study at Massachusetts General Hospital involving children with refractory epilepsy found that CBD elevated the plasma levels and increased the long-term blood concentrations of clobazam, an anticonvulsant, and norclobazam, an active metabolite of this medication. A majority of these children needed to have their dose of clobazam reduced due to side effects. Given that both clobazam and CBD are metabolized by cytochrome P450 enzymes, a drug-drug interaction is not surprising."

After reading the above I've eaten a bunch of weedibles, and going to get some grapefruits, then going to do 30mg again and see if it lasts even longer.
lol - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 14:08:31 EST BqpvRW4y No.147416 Reply

Thats awesome man, they are def very rare in the states even through all my years of getting high i never saw them. It sounds like it would be pretty good from reading about it, how much was in the blister? 100mg?
Basil Harrytene - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:05:46 EST 9Tb+1z1e No.147422 Reply
Yep, 10 10mg tablets from TEVA, little white circles with C10 on one side and "N | N" on the other. Ate my grapefruit 30 mins ago, had 2 large mcdonals coffees, had some roasted potatoes with roasted weed for dinner last night/breakfast this morning so my P450 enzymes ought to be pretty busy being inhibited. Just popped another 30mg, cracked a Red Bull (7.1% cheap beer) and booted up Forknife Season 11 on my switch. Today will be a good day.

Running out of benzos as a daily addict

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- Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:45:52 EST C85tTygO No.147324
File: 1570261552789.jpg -(17261B / 16.86KB, 350x350) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Running out of benzos as a daily addict
Could someone please explain the whole going to the hospital for benzos thing please. I am in Canada if that helps. I think I read about how you can go in for a prescription if you're honest and tell them you need it? I have been taking etiz nightly for a long time, ~12 months, and have come up on some hard times to cut a long story short living arrangement is unstable and have to move or wind up homeless. This is why I am having trouble affording more and segues into my other option; I had to go into the hospital a year ago due to similar circumstances(stupidly went back bc no other choice at the time) and got a month's supply of clonazepam. I do have a few diagnosed anxiety disorders and on the waiting list to see a shrink so I suppose I have that going for me. Was on valium, ativan, clonazepam through some of my teenage years so there is a medical history too. I am on antidepressants and seroquel already from my sub doc so those are out of the question.
Basically wondering what my odds are and should I lead in with anxiety about being homeless and insomnia/panic attacks etc and leave telling them about etiz as a last resort? Serious thanks to anyone who takes time out of their day to reply, and hope you all are well.
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dr. m - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 20:00:12 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147378 Reply
don't say etizolam, as they'll have zero fucking clue what that even is, or what the dosage equivalency is. Just say you use "street bars" that are fake but really pack a punch.
Augustus Pockgold - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:04:02 EST gNIXakDo No.147418 Reply
My girl told the docs i was seizing because I was taking mad benzo rcs and they pissed tested me, didn't find any thing, because the fucking jackass's don't test for flualp and just think I'm drug seeking, having hours worth of seizures before they gave me some shit to put me in a coma for like 4 days. Benzo rcs will fucking kill you if you're stupid with them.
dr. m - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:34:00 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147420 Reply
Nah, the (presumably American) medical community can fucking kill you, at least in your case. Benzos of any kind can potentially kill you, but I'm convinced that the medical community's approach of "cold turkeying benzo-dependent patients totally won't kill them or anything when they lose their doctor, get cut off, get arrested/sent to jail/prison, or can't afford their meds, and if it does, it's somehow their fault," is what causes the vast majority of benzo withdrawal-related deaths. It's the same with opioid withdrawal literally killing people in jails while the COs refuse to give them access to extra water (let alone electrolytes), reasonable medical care, no medicines whatsoever (I'm talking like requiring 2-3 signature "overrides" to simply get access to tylenol/advil, which when "prescribed" as the sole medication to "treat" opioid withdrawal, is like pissing on a oil tanker explosion engulfed in flames with the sincere expectation that doing so will put out the conflagration). They don't even give opioid addicts minimal doses of loperamide aka immodium, which can absolutely save their lives.

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