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- Tue, 05 Apr 2022 21:29:42 EST KLgWuI+r No.153168
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Will I get any withdrawals if I quit cold turkey after taking 2mg of Ativan a day for 8 days?
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Cyril Fuckleridge - Sat, 09 Apr 2022 17:29:10 EST KLgWuI+r No.153175 Reply
>>153169
>>153171
>>153173
Appreciate it bros I had a few panics but im feeling alot better now. Do you think it would be safe to get drunk at this point (4 days clean)
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Lillian Turveybanks - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 06:13:57 EST LThtYi+r No.153179 Reply
>>153175
I find alcohol just fucks too much with the quitting/tapering process. Hangovers are going to be extra nasty. Though it doesn't sound like your dependence is all that crippling so you are probably fine. I'd hold it off for a couple of weeks but that's just me
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2xan - Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:37:06 EST Hhydi68U No.153185 Reply
>>153168
Nothing too serious, benzodiazepines are only meant to be taken for a short period of time (less than 4 weeks) so you should be golden!

Night Off

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- Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:35:16 EST Hhydi68U No.153184
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Post your pills n shit that you're getting fucked on
I got a couple of 6mg Bromazepam and 2mg Xans. It's gonna be a smooooth night

Healthy ways to take benzo

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- Thu, 03 Mar 2022 01:47:04 EST nCfS9Bgy No.153067
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I reember back tin the days I flt like shit constant worry aniety all that stuff. Then iTook benzo and holy moley it was a life saver. I nver felt more happy in my life. i had no worries and aniety, it was comletely killed and a whool new world opened up filld with joy and gratide. But then I seopped because I felt ilke it wasnt suistable to keep going.... Moral of the story, how to take benzo while living a healthy lifestyle. Any docotrs who recommend sticking to a certain dose of say (Klonopin or Etizolam) as to not destroy your self?
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m - Sat, 09 Apr 2022 17:07:08 EST G+wBcmoD No.153174 Reply
>>153095
I would disagree, but ONLY if you can reliably keep your usage to one single dose every ~10-14 days. I usually take 1.5-2.5mg pharma xanax once every two weeks, and maybe a single 0.5mg dose once a month for actual panic disorder. I agree that long-term daily usage is super fucking dumb. Most addicts/polysubstance users can't follow such a strict usage schedule as mine, but it's definitely possible.

But maybe it's easier for me because my primary addiction is opioids and not benzos. If I had loads of pharma benzos in front of me (not a limited supply), I'd probably take them daily. My supplier can only spare about 24*0.5mg pharma tablets per month.
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Angus Shakecocke - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 18:39:58 EST ze73EEwW No.153182 Reply
>>153174
Glad there's some hope read the ashton manual too tapering info, and self control with drugs isn't one of my strong suits, its why I ended up in rehab years ago for dope and ended up addicted to xanax and oxy again to an extent. I doubt a doctor would help and prescribe me valuim either if i said I'm addicted and want to ween myself off can you help doc, they would kick me out of the office. It would be hard in the beginning for me I think to keep to a single dose of xanax a day but I could probably manage it. I usually split my doses with 1mg a few hours before work and another 1mg around 6-7pm, I work 2pm-1030pm, and then another 1-2mg around 11:15-11:30PM when I get home. I can get through an entire work day on 1mg but by the time the end of the shift comes around I'm itching to get the fuck out and end up taking 2mg and some oxy if I have any when I get home to chill out. I end up eating the percs like candy but only run out a few days before re-up which is this Friday, I still have 10 percs left, 70 bars in my "emergency" stash and probably another 50-60 bars in my regular stash right in my desk drawer so over 100 bars and I get more bars and percs on Friday so I can keep digging that hole deeper.

I still prefer /opi/ to /benz/ they're just a better drug imo but only run out of /opi/ a few days before reup which is this Friday. I still have 10 percs left, 70 bars in my "emergency" stash and probably another 50-60 bars in my regular stash right in my desk drawer so over 100 bars and I get more on Friday to feed the beast and keep it going somehow. When I started this agreement years ago with this guy back then I wanted the percs more than the bars but I ended up switching addictions down the line by buying an entire 90 script of bars plus 30 10mg vicodins from someone he knew like 4 months in a row and since thus guy always wanted to get rid of everything at once I always got a cheap deal on it. Since then Ive always had bars on me and started taking them everyday cause I had such excess and no one to sell too I started making my "emergency" stash of backups.

it was easier years when he wasn't homeless, had a part-time off the books job and government assistance now he gets jack shit and lives in a garage. just meet up once a month for the doctor and maybe one time during the month to sell some extra stuff but now its almost every other day where he cant leave me alone I feel I need the xanax just to deal with the bullshit I go through just to get the stuff The only way I see myself getting off is giving all my pills to my parents to hold, still live with them at 31, hope they don't flush em and give me a massive panic attack and have them hand me out my doses and hope I can ween off and not end up in the hospital cause like you said having tons of pharma pills right next to you makes it hard to not take em everyday even worse when your a poly-substance abuser and need to mix them to feel anything at this point. Blog post over
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m - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 17:22:12 EST G+wBcmoD No.153183 Reply
>>153182
>It would be hard in the beginning for me I think to keep to a single dose of xanax a day

Notice how I said a single dose once a WEEK or more, not once a day? Daily benzos is always a bad idea.

5mg Valium and Alcohol

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- Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:04:31 EST 5tAXeoK/ No.153138
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I used all of my valium and my dealer is away. I have 5mg of Valium and I wanna do a shot or two with it, do you think it will be a problem if it's only 5mg? Just worried about blacking out tbh.
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Hannah Hinnernetch - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 08:52:35 EST gbMPxrod No.153144 Reply
>>153143
I am currently in a similar position as you. I had a really bad shroom trip a few months ago that completely changed my perception of all drugs. Even though I hate doing any drugs any more I still do them for some reason. I feel the same way I love the drug culture and want to stay here for a long time but I don't really find enjoyment from drugs at this point in my life.
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Hannah Hinnernetch - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 08:54:06 EST gbMPxrod No.153145 Reply
>>153143
I am currently in a similar position as you. I had a really bad shroom trip a few months ago that completely changed my perception of all drugs. Even though I hate doing any drugs any more I still do them for some reason. I feel the same way I love the drug culture and want to stay here for a long time but I don't really find enjoyment from drugs at this point in my life. Also to add the Xanax your friend took could've been laced with fent or something.

Making Custom Mg Doses/Capsules From Script

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- Sat, 09 Apr 2022 17:47:41 EST aRZE/QCT No.153176
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So let's say I hypothetically used more of my alpraz script during a trip & now am curious as to the best way to take my 1mg footballs & turn them into say, 0.25 or 0.75mg doses

I find trying to snap footballs in any way that's not at the seam is usually pretty unreliable. My first idea is using some mortal, pistol to grind the 15mg I have left to powder form & using a powder scale to portion out my own capsules.

This raises two questions however -

>how do I go about doing this without losing 1mg+ off the top in the process?
>where's the best place to get a small amount of empty capsules?
>is the mortar/pistol the best way to grind up script alpraz footballs?

Of course if anyone has suggestions/comments 100% appreciated ik this board has gotten pretty dead over the years but I can't imagine I'm the *only* degenerate still around
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m - Sat, 09 Apr 2022 20:25:58 EST G+wBcmoD No.153177 Reply
>>153176

You're looking for volumetric dosing. Just don't use water since most benzos aren't water-soluble. Very high proof ethanol booze (I'd suggest like 60% minimum...I use 183 proof aka 76.5% AVB and it works fine) or PG aka Propylene Glycol would work.

Forget non-liquid methods.

Judging dependency?

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- Wed, 23 Feb 2022 16:23:28 EST eagALLeH No.153036
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Now because it depends on the benzo, the dose, the duration and frequency and of course the person, how do you guage when yuo're doing something like a taper?

I've familiarised myself with the ashton manual and I worry that as my history of use has been sporadic that I might be able to taper quicker than I am and that I might actually be making myself a bit more dependent on diazepam.

My main fear is seizures, and I know valium has a long half life. Just now i'm on 35mg daily but think does it always have to be daily and I Might try a drop in 5mg rather than 2.5.

Or what if I just try spacing my doses out every two days, do the withdraw symptoms come on gradually or will i just be hit with a seizure suddenly?

I don't want to think i'm ok when days or weeks down the line withdrawls start hitting me, or do they start and gradually worsen since the last dose wears off?

know what I mean?
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2xan - Sat, 02 Apr 2022 16:10:53 EST t6uhbF0+ No.153160 Reply
>>153036
Yes, you will get tremors, nausea, and vomiting before having a withdrawal seizure. I was taking the exact same amount daily with the exception of Alprazolam in my usage best thing I would do for your situation (which I used to do in order to curb physical withdrawal symptoms) is to try get your dosage of Diazepam lowered down to 10MG and eventually 2.5MG. Take 10MG of Diazepam for the first 5 days, one in the morning and night, then for the following 2 days, take it only in the morning. Drop it down to 2.5MG spaced out every 2 days for the next 4 days in the morning after that. Stop your usage completely afterward, make sure you keep yourself hydrated and keep your diet stable. Make sure you sleep, I used 10MG of Melatonin combined with 50MG of Quetiapine if I was desperate to sleep.

It really sucks that the only medications to stop a seizure effectively are benzos. If you are afraid that you might have a seizure, try to get Clonazepam (Rivotril) or Lorazepam (Ativan) and take 0.5 - 1MG. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of discipline to keep another benzo whilst you're trying to get off them. I only keep 5 pills 0.5MG of Clonazepam and 5 pills of 0.5MG sublingual Lorazepam (which destroys seizures) with me just in case I get the feeling I'm going to have a seizure and only re-up once I'm out. If you can get the sublingual Lorazepam, it's extremely effective at stopping seizures due to how quickly it acts.

In my experience, withdrawals would come 2 - 3 days after stopping cold turkey. It didn't worsen gradually as I would experience withdrawal seizures pretty instantly.

Hope you get through this and I wish you all the best, it's extremely dangerous and difficult to stop. This is just based on my experiences and as you mentioned it depends on so many factors.
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McAngry - Mon, 04 Apr 2022 00:04:25 EST eagALLeH No.153163 Reply
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>>153160
Thank you. I was reading on the ashton manual that clonazepam is actually worse for tapering off though?

You would advise in the morning? I was thinking night for the sleep, i was also going to buy promethazine to help sleep too.
I tried taking mirtqzapine again but twice in a row started waking up to the sound of my own screams.

Sorry for the bit of a personal diary.

Can i ask how long you were on them for , how long it ultimately took you and
Qlso can you tell me what melatonin feels like ?

I think you could do it faster and had seizures creep up quicker because you we
Its so hard to find evidence/ stats on duration to seizure likelyhood, so i appreciate your post a lot man.
I ordered some tegratol (carbemazepine) which can apparently aod in withdrawing. Its an anti eleptic but i know this kind of seizure risk isnt necessariøy the same.

The thing with loraz is, id be scared id end up taking it inappropriateøy as the basicaøøy guaranteed side effect of WDing is ANXIETY AND PANIC. I cant get a hold of loraz now but i did get some alprqz tablets (i know but its the closest i could get)
My hope and prayer to God is that with tegratol and diazepam tapering, and a GOOD SLEEP ACHEDULE i can fall asleep more naturally and get through this.

I dont fucking want to be on benzos, when i started taking them it was horrific trauma and they made my life a bit of a less living hell.
I also ordered more pregabalin to hopefully manage side effects.

Melatonin you mentioned - whats the deal with that being hard to get if youre not old?

The only bit of literature incould find about dose and seizure isbthat 30mg diazepam is pretty much enough for an anti convulsive effect. In fact its the top dose paramedics in my country cam give (30mg rectal, 20mg IV, midaz is qlso used).


Can you tell me how much notice you had before seizures, and when did they stop? Did you end up in hospital?

Im scared i go days with a lowered dose or no diazepam thrn a week passes and i start fitting or some shit.

Ill let you guys know how things go when i get my tegretol and pregabalin if you like. I also got q dosset box and have started splitting tablets.

I hate how long valium stays in your system but i feel like its the only thing thats stopped me having fits probably. Once it leaves my system i might be spazzing unconcious with that awful bitten tongue.

Ill give any advice if anyone wants it and if i can provide any useful insight.
I barely even fucking feel 15 or 20 or 30mg diazepam i only take it when im scared and in feable attenpts at resetting my sleep pattern.

How likely am I dependent?

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- Fri, 18 Mar 2022 20:34:12 EST LThtYi+r No.153115
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Here's my situation: I abused opiates very heavily and daily for about 8 years. 3 months ago I stopped completely and for those 3 months I've been taking benzos to manage withdrawals and now I have no idea where I'm at. I was taking 2mg clonazepam + 2mg loraz the first month or so and 15mg zopiclone to fall asleep. Now I take about 5 to 10mg diazepam every day, depending on the mood. and occasionally 5 to 10mg zopiclone, I've taken 2 day breaks here and there but finding it hard to stop. In short, I feel like fucking shit everyday but it doesn't seem like benzo withdrawal or all that severe, but I don't feel good. Am I in trouble or just a pussy?
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Lydia Blavingstock - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:18:20 EST tHuxKvew No.153141 Reply
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>>153132
I seem to be in the same boat as both you and OP, currently dependent on pharma Xanax and have been taking it daily for almost 4 years now so I'm fucked whenever I have to come off Xanax. Once a month I take an old homeless guy to the doctor to get his scripts of 120 bars and 120 percs filled and I end up with more percs than him around like 70-90 because he owes me so much money by the time the doctor day comes.

Then he ends up selling me more xanax like 2 days later after saying he needs em for himself and cant give me more than 25-30 when we do our deal, he always has some dumb excuse I heard a million times why he has to sell em but I know its just to buy crack and beer, I hate this parasitic relationship with him I need him cause I'm addicted to his drugs but I want him out of my life so fucking bad I wish I never met this asshole. I usually take 4mgs a day some days I get by with 3mg and this has been going on everyday for the last few years so when its time for me to come off its gunna be hell and I'm gunna need a legit doc if they are even willing to do a taper since I figure most docs would just tell you to get out if you explained the situation. I hate my life.
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Ian Sennerwater - Sat, 02 Apr 2022 08:45:15 EST pGc1ES67 No.153157 Reply
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uh

see, the thing is if you're using purely for the sake of getting fucked up on benzo's specifically (like, if you weren't using pks or specifically benzo's everyday & you would be able to function normally without like, pain from surgeries/ptsd/past accidents/childhood trauma/general shit that could make you start to lean on these drugs then I would try and subsist on like kratom & find a doc tell him you're looking for a good doctor & that you've had bad experience with not being able to be honest with doctors; which is something that you *should* be able to do

i've been through maaaany doctors, only maybe 3 in 10 are the kind you can be honest with & won't necessarily write down Everything you say if you ask them to keep it off the record

anyways you don't really have to say all that much besides being honest: if you've had past trauma, explain how you've dealt with anxiety and or panic attacks your whole life & are looking for a way to treat them so you can better function in society or whatever bullshit sounds best

when I found doctors I could be *we'll say, Mostly* honest with I turned down an oxy script on the spot & just asked that they help me with my panic attacks w kpins/alpraz

the last issue I can think of is presentability, if you're holding a sign all day or whatever "presentability" is more about character, matter of fact "honesty" (you tell them how shit is effecting / impeding your life to the point it's out of hand & come up with real examples of how that's the case; should be easy as shit in 2012+10, not you dealers phone # yfm lol)

nb4 /rant
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2xan - Sat, 02 Apr 2022 15:07:38 EST t6uhbF0+ No.153158 Reply
>>153115
If you display the withdrawal symptoms (which will be evident after 3 months of usage) you are most likely dependent. As a result, space out your usage of Diazepam to ween yourself off. You will get cravings, that's normal. I would also suggest stopping using Zopiclone as it won't assist you during this process and try taking 10MG of Melatonin. Hope this helped, this is how I usually manage my withdrawals and is the way I go when I feel like taking a break from benzos.

snorting xanax

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- Wed, 02 Mar 2022 20:10:21 EST MJa7hwi0 No.153064
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i have been taking xans for over a year now. going to rehab soon,
never tried snorting xanax it and i want to try it before i hopfully never take it again. any reason to not do it ?
what the difference between snorting it and just dropping it in my drink ?
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Cyril Hingerwater - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 21:29:13 EST 8bHgf9c/ No.153109 Reply
>>153098
its kinda shit. just throw them in a sprite or something
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Jarvis Pinningfut - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 21:32:46 EST 0nWOpLj6 No.153110 Reply
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>>153109
that's also just some meme hood shit, homies would always do it & yeah it works fine I guess but some of it is also lost in the process

it's whatever if you got bars to throw around

Valium half life question

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- Fri, 21 Jan 2022 06:45:56 EST GlkCo4To No.152935
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Valium has an active metabolite that is supposed to work 100 hours, I have severe anxiety but I don't feel anything after 4-5 hours taking it. Maybe slight muscle relaxation after sleeping on it but that's it. Does anyone else feel this way? Am I missing something?
Also I've been experiencing queasy stomach/nausea, idk if it's related to my existing anxiety or something benzo users have experienced
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2xan - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 02:33:01 EST EioCcOy2 No.153040 Reply
>>152935
Is the Valium you're taking a generic? Did you buy them off the street? Because through doing counterfeit Valiums I felt no benzo high and felt extremely nauseous, it could also be the binding agent if it is generic.
Furthermore, if you are experiencing severe anxiety I would opt for something that lasts longer and is more effective than Valium such as Xanax or Urbanol.
Try Urbanol (Clobazam). I've had better experiences with that and it works like a charm in comparison to Valium, personally. Cheers, 2xan.
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Lydia Forrybeg - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:03:41 EST xpGknFXj No.153050 Reply
>>153040
>Did you buy them off the street?

Yeah I too would like to know the answer to that because Valium is like the king of benzos. Long half life and suuuuper good chill. It's just the best imo, BUT damn fucking doctors don't want to prescribe it anymore; just xanax. It's turning into a unicorn, so naturally there's a lot of fakes out there.

RC benzos

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- Sun, 21 Jun 2020 02:20:11 EST xC/snsb0 No.149200
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Bromazolam
Clonazolam
Diclazapam
Flualprazolam
Flunitrazolam
Eitzolam

First time. What are some of the better ones and the worst ones? What are the differences between them?
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Fuck Nadgestirk - Sun, 06 Mar 2022 06:10:07 EST MRpHVRWm No.153081 Reply
>>152914
>>152914
>>149200
i am stepping down from 6 months clam to brolam

at the height i took 2.5mg a day for like 11 days, 2 month taper down to .5-.75 now i jumped over to bromazolam taking about 1.5 mg tops of that

lets hope i dont seize 5 days after 3 days ago switching from clam to brolam
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Fuck Nadgestirk - Sun, 06 Mar 2022 06:11:39 EST MRpHVRWm No.153082 Reply
>>149200
>>149200
plus my brolam solution is most likely diluted to more than 2mg/ml but i havent felt poorly from the whole thing yet, i think im doing the taper right. now is the time that somethnig would get fucked up

GBL purity

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- Fri, 04 Mar 2022 04:52:07 EST SKDggTkJ No.153073
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Hey, any tips on how to know when a GBL vendor (on the clearnet) is legit? The stuff is ridiculously overpriced, but it seems like the missing piece in my weekly nootropic stack (I know it sounds strange), as I only use psychedelics recreationally.

Also, any way to know for sure there aren't any impurities that might cause organ damage in the long term? (I plan to use it once per week).

Klonopin - Need to pass drug test

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- Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:19:41 EST Aa5PxJlF No.153047
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How do I get Klonopin out of my system? I have a 9 panel drug test in 7 days. I've been completely clean except for taking 4mg two days ago.

Right now chugging water in an attempt to flush it and then will drink red bulls the day of the test to get my creatinine levels back up.

Is there any better way to go about this? I'm considering going the my gym's sauna for an hour a day to sweat it out.

Also I've hear klonopin often doesn't show up on tests. Anyone know about this?
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Lydia Forrybeg - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:58:01 EST xpGknFXj No.153053 Reply
>>153052
Oh, if it's for a job then do the whole flask thing or even just put down that you have a prescription for Klonopin. In fact, just to be safe you should go get a script for ANY benzo since drug tests don't determine what type of benzo but just that it is a benzo. Just tell a doctor that you have a history with anxiety and that taking a xanax here and there helps....and maybe throw in something like how you're waiting to go see a psychiatrist but that they won't be able to see you for a few months (very common for psych doctors to be booked, so your doctor will understand).
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Cedric Bittingfield - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:48:05 EST eWFGnu4x No.153054 Reply
>>153047

You've heard correctly that clonazepam doesn't show up on urine tests. Where i'm from they use clonazepam to wean off addicts off benzo's, because they catch them if they use other benzos that show up on urine screens, like xanax, valium etc. Clonazepam didn't show, when i was doing these tests a couple years ago.
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Benzzzzzzzz - Thu, 03 Mar 2022 02:16:51 EST qgAElwm/ No.153068 Reply
>>153047
Probably a late reply but tobacco is the answer. Actually not too late since you said your test will be in 7 days. I don't recommend the use of tobacco normally but it speeds up the metabolism of benzos and other substances so that they clear out of your system much quicker than usual. Just buy a couple of cigars, smoke them over a day and you should be fine.

Xanax drugtest in 8 days

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- Sat, 19 Feb 2022 07:47:55 EST 8I2xjrvY No.153022
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Hi, i been on abt 6-10mg daily xanax for 2 weeks.
Test coming up in 8 days.
If i now go CT (Cold turkey) today - would i past my urine drug test in 8 days?

Thank you in advance for all your answers or help please i need some clearity in this
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m - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 01:51:06 EST G+wBcmoD No.153045 Reply
>>152873
>>153022
You could easily, easily fail. I usually piss hot for at least 5-6 days from a SINGLE USE of pharma xanax, and in small doses of 1.5-3mg.
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Lydia Forrybeg - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:58:16 EST xpGknFXj No.153049 Reply
>>153026
NO WAY! Benzos stay in your system for a loooong time. A month or more even, and that's for a therapeutic dose!

Reducing tolerance

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- Wed, 03 Nov 2021 04:41:46 EST VmHDIpl9 No.152643
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Hypothetical scenario:

someone has taken 15mg clonazepam every 24 hours for 50 days. Tolerance has built up obviously and that someone wants to reduce the consistent 15mg tolerance down so that 2mg of clonazepam will give a nice effect.

If that someone reduce the dose down to 2mg clonazepam per day consistently for however long is necessary to reduce the tolerance from "15mg" "down to 2mg" giving a decent effect, would it work? Assuming someone can handle the crash symptoms even tho it might be dangerous.

would the tolerance decrease work with this method?
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m - Tue, 01 Feb 2022 07:27:34 EST sv3op7G6 No.152981 Reply
>>152928
It's not really needed, especially while he's at such high amounts. Clonazepam has a long half-life just like diazepam.

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Frederick Blytheman - Thu, 03 Feb 2022 12:18:06 EST eagALLeH No.152985 Reply
>>152928
I would say YES, if you CAN, make a gradual switch, slowly, to an eqiuivilant dose. Half life isnt everything, try to find what dose you are COMFORTABLE on ie maybe not your normal self yet but not in hell, tyou might be mentally miserable (try CBT and pregabalin for mental health) but whatever you do AVOID ANY INCREASE OF DOSE or "as needed" doses ok, i know it might be hard especially if a traumatic thing happens but try to end up dividing your doses into as small amounts as you can - if youve been on it a long time like OP has.

Once youve gotten your dose to like 6mg and you dont feel withdrawls like nausia, tremours (are you experiencing jerks or tremours?) - then you can start reducing the amount by 25% per week once you have achieved a maintainance dose which is not supratherapeutic. If you know what I mean, its safer to start steadily going down once you arent reliant on doses like lets say 15mg per day every day. Also yes divide your doses morning and night, with the night time one being slightly higher.
By taking a morning and night you avoid the risk of taking it once, then after that peak effect you think "shit" and reach for more to avoid the harsh rebound effect, try to maintain an altitude t hen gradually land.

I am in a similar boat and am using diazepam, I havent taken clonazepam in a while but now im wondering how long to drag this on and how long between doses to start leaving it, as far as im aware taking it routinely is actually better than the peaks and truffs thing as that doesnt cause the necessary down-reliance in your brain.
I dont know how much valium i need and for how long but Ive done it before, im going to probably get my last bunch and rather have excess than not enough and risk seizures.
My main fear is seizures, diazepam has never been very effective for me and my PTSD but by god I remember feeling withdrawls start one day and I am glad when that valium came. It didnt give me like the same relief or subjective feeling but the relief from the withdrawl is what you want.

As some other poster said recently, keep your brain active too man. Also I was reading some NHS guidance and they said to remind the patient that anxiety is the single most common thing to suffer with during a taper but that to have faith and maybe if youre too anxious too often to get to a level using SMALL amounts JUST to where thast MANAGABLE and that its COMMON to have periods where you feel tine and sometimes very anxious, but that the goal is to not climb back up and to go nowhere but down, not up.
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Angus Gudgeforth - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:35:39 EST YTIXl34P No.153057 Reply
>>152643
There's no reducing tolerance while still taking it, you need to go to a hospital. You will fail this taper, go to a hospital. Once you're detoxed and not seizing/pissing-shitting yourself, you can start your tolerance clock there. Oh, and go to a hospital cuz you're gonna fail, also, you're gonna die tryin to stop all together so don't do that either

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