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Day after always better for me

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- Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:23:43 EST Q+FEFAkK No.147308
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I rarely take alprazolam anymore but when I do it seems I dont really enjoy the actual buzz (possible because I never remember any of it). But the day after is always awesome, I feel calm, but in a "woke up on the right side of the bed" kind of way. So my thoughts are clear and Im even motivated to clean up my house n shit. I used to abuse benzos so hard so I'm only gonna do this on occasion.

Curious to know if others agree that the afterglow feels better and is more functional? This probably applies more to people who do NOT take benzos daily.
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KingPoli - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 15:26:25 EST Q+FEFAkK No.147312 Reply
>>147311
I would normally prefer kpins but even the xans give it to me. Problem for taking low dose is my history with the drugs. Too small a does and I don't really have any conscious effects.
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dr. m - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:17:26 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147329 Reply
>>147308

I hate the opposite effect generally, but it depends on the benzo. The day after diazepam (never had clonazepam) I feel "good," but not in like a recreational way. surprisingly, I've had multiple "experiments" with diazepam (mostly Cambodian diazepam from at least 4-5 different pharmacies, but also at least 20 diazepam directly from a Thai pharmacist, so at least some of my diazepam should be real/accurately dosed), and I don't find it remotely as recreational as pharma xanax whatsoever. This with both moderately low permanently tolerance + low acute tolerance, and moderately low permanent tolerance + zero acute tolerance. For some reason, it just doesn't subjectively "hit as hard," to the point where 1mg pharma xanax "hits harder" than even as much as 25mg diazepam. I don't think diazepam is for me in terms of pseudo-recreational use.

I'd argue that even lorazepam hits "harder" for me than valium, but that might just be due to lorazepam being somewhat more sleep-inducing than valium. So my favorites are probably a tie between xanax and etizolam, assuming clonazolam isn't considered because it's not a "safe" substance.
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dr. m - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:18:30 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147330 Reply
>>147329

*yet, when I take xanax/etizolam, the next day I tend to have notable rebound anxiety+ some amount of irritability, not to mention a pseudo-"hangover"/mental deficiency similar to using cannabis rarely.

Thought deceleration

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- Sat, 28 Sep 2019 04:50:17 EST 3eBBvGeX No.147254
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Have you ever considered that the major mechanism by which benzodiazepines are anxiolytic is because of the thought deceleration? Look it up if you don't know what it means. Because there's a very positive message here; sorting out your thought patterns is the way to bring about a happy, healthy and calm state of mind. But of course any drug induced anxiety - e.g. benzo withdrawal related - has to run its course before this kind of method or project is really possible.
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Fanny Ponnerforth - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:49:43 EST LMU3H1Ku No.147320 Reply
>>147254

I feel that. Benzos help turn down the constant thoughts occupying my mind. Without them I overthink everything.

Phenibut vs benzo

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- Sun, 15 Sep 2019 05:12:26 EST v6tYj6QB No.147140
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How is phenibut in euphroic qualities compared to xanax/etizolam/clonazepam, would you rather take a good benzo or does it have unique effects. What other GABA substances are there, i can think of lyrica, l theanin, ashwaghanda, benzo, phenibut
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Clara Drigglebet - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:08:24 EST tp4pMcs2 No.147307 Reply
>>147273
This is not true as I've had 2 seizures while coming off of phenibut. It was honestly the hardest thing for me not to just immediately re-order some of it after getting out of the hospital but now that it's out of the house it's obscurity is the only thing keeping me from going back.

This was closer to 5grams every other day though.
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Charlotte Fangold - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 20:50:13 EST l6/CfV59 No.147317 Reply
>>147307
youve never had any seizures before nor had taken any other drugs for months?
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Reuben Cickleford - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:21:34 EST tp4pMcs2 No.147318 Reply
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>>147317
All I could get around the time was the phenibut from a bodybuilding website that will remain unnamed. I was getting capsules because it made it easy to dose a gram or 2 in the morning and have a day of easy conversation and blow through work. The only other things I was doing at the time were smoking my weed and drinking some nights out of the week.

I honestly didn't know what to blame when the first one hit and I woke up getting walked to an ambulance. For a few months afterwards, I didn't touch the Phen I still had at home but eventually got back into a few grams every other day. When the second seizure hit me on the 3rd day of no dosing, which was around the same time without dosing I had gone before the first grand-mal, I realized that the phen was to blame.

Since then it's been over a year and I haven't touched the stuff. I also haven't had another seizure, but take from it what you will. There are hardly any seizure reports on the internet concerning phenibut, but it's also a drug hidden behind CCCP Cyrillic reports from a decade ago. I assume that as it gets more popular we'll hear more seizure stories pop up here and there.

As with everything, drugs affect people differently and I could simply be more susceptible to seizures than your average person. I will state, though, that the only two seizures that I've ever had were both 3-4 days after ceasing phenibut. Take from it what you will, but I think it's worthwhile to at least put my story out there.

Next day drowsiness

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- Fri, 04 Oct 2019 15:03:08 EST zWM3ezjc No.147309
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How do ya'll deal with the morning drowsiness? I haven't been able to get benzos in quite some time, but yesterday i scored 4 bars. I split one of the bars and took it throughout the afrernoon and this morning it took me forever to wake up. Straight up slept thru my first alarm, woke up for the second but fell back asleep and finally woke up again an hour later. The problem is tonight im working 4pm till midnight and tomorrow i have to be back at 9am for an 11 hour shift. I need the xanz tho cus this is a new job which is giving me extreme anxiety plus im weining off suboxone (im an ex-opi boy tht got off dope and on subs about a year and a half ago) but i dont want to over sleep tonight and be late for my shift tomorrow. I know the obvious answer is to not take any of the xans today but im a drug addict so we all know thats not my first choice.
Tldr; Any tips or ticks to only sleep a couple hours on xanax and not be groggy when you wake up?
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KingPoli - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 15:07:10 EST Q+FEFAkK No.147310 Reply
>>147309
funny you posted this just after mine, detailing my opposite situation. For me drowsiness is actually lucid energy and motivating even. It is possible you need to find a differently outlet to deal with the anxiety of the new job? No judgements of course but it seems your getting out of your comfort zone with the new job and learning to adapt to that stress without the pills will only make you stronger in the long run. Alternatively you could try taking less. 1mg is alot for some people, enough to put them to sleep.

Personally I am so wired up it takes a good 1.5-2m for me to even notice any effect, and have to take an irresponsible dose to put knock myself out, and, even then sometimes it just makes me go psycho.

Tinnitus and Ativan withdrawal

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- Sat, 21 Sep 2019 00:18:28 EST xD1rLalo No.147209
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I haven't posted here before, I just remember this site from the early days of the future.

I was on 1mg Ativan for 6 months and started experiencing interdose withdrawal.

I tried and failed cold turkey, my psych did me a 2 week taper.

I'm 14 weeks post taper and I've had tinnitus non stop the past month. It's by far the most unbearable symptom yet.

It's definitely less bad than it was at the start but still very uncomfortable. Google even said for some WD induced tinitus might never go away.

I was on a weak dose for not super long, I'm also youngish at 29.

Do you think it'll go away 100% I miss silence so much.
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Ernest Brookfield - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:35:40 EST DxXbaTfv No.147249 Reply
>>147226
5 months 1mg 2-3 times a week and 1 month where I took it once a day at the end.

I am probably not gonna be one of the few with permanent tinnitus right? I hope
?

My psych doesn't believe I'm in paws too, it fucking sucks.
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Betsy Fiddlemadge - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 03:02:51 EST 0SRUm69r No.147289 Reply
>>147209
I've had near non stop tinnitus for like the past two years. Mostly because I never actually quit for more than a week. Well I'm about 3 months off benzos and the tinnitus is mostly gone except for when I get stressed out or have a panic attack. I think it's going to go away.
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Rebecca Broffingdene - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 01:13:29 EST OTTHh8HO No.147302 Reply
Get a new psych then, your doctor works for you. you dont work for your doctor.

First time taking triazolam, and benzos in general

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- Sat, 07 Sep 2019 02:28:21 EST FzeHGFLf No.147035
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Hey guys, newfag here.

I've never taken benzos before in my life, and I was just prescribed some Halcion (Triazolam) .25mg.

I took just one pill about 30 minutes ago, and feel pretty dizzy/heavy. I'm thinking of taking another for .5mg to get a better effect.

Does anyone have any experience with halcion, and is .5mg safe for a first timer?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 01 Oct 2019 02:54:25 EST qkzTPNFj No.147283 Reply
>>147276
Please, do refresh my memory as to when/where this takes place in the book.
Unless you're just fucking with OP, then it's all good.

>>147277
Precisely. If anything, benzos keep Patrick Bateman from being completely debilitated by anxiety. Multiple chapters end with Patrick having a craving for a glass of Scotch and a couple 5mg diazepam. Other mentions to benzos are alprazolam, clonazepam (but in a negative manner), and triazolam from what I can remember.
The film omitted a major theme of the book: Bateman's constant anxiety and dread. The dude's popping diazepam and alprazolam throughout the novel.
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Rebecca Broffingdene - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 01:06:38 EST OTTHh8HO No.147300 Reply
>>147283
The point of the book is not about drugs... But at least Bateman's benzo habit parallels his slip into madness. As he describes everything in great detail, he describes doses of halcion and when he takes them. As the book goes on he seems to take diazepam too, and in larger amounts but they seem to do little more than just end a chapter or offer a mere sigh of relief. I read it a couple years ago so I dont recall much more.
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Rebecca Broffingdene - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 01:09:36 EST OTTHh8HO No.147301 Reply
>>147300
Also, iirc there was a bit about how triaz especially caused insanity. The book was also written when side effects of super short acting triaz was being more well known, im pretty sure.

Should I take them?

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- Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:14:41 EST zJEVVkLE No.146963
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6 gabapentins (which I don't know which board talks about those) are in my possession along with three 10mg valiums. Should I take both or will I be damaging my brain?
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dr. m - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 01:59:26 EST Rt3E2wAH No.146996 Reply
>>146963

Just take one 800mg capsule, wait an hour, and take another 800mg if needed. This drug works best when staggered in dosage, similar to tramadol. You shouldn't need more than 1.6g gabapentin if you have no gabapentinoid tolerance (gabapentin, pregabalin, or phenibut).

You shouldn't need more than 10-15mg valium combined with said 800mg or 1600mg gabapentin.
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George Bendlehood - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 06:32:56 EST FtjgQwRB No.147293 Reply
>>146963
I'm probably too late but 2mg Xanax and 900mg Gabapentin (staggered dose, the efficient way) got me really nauseous, like I smoked too much weed and drank too much at the same time kind of nausea. Not the brief nausea from opiates that once you throw up it's pure bliss, it was just pure suffering tbh. Do not recommend.

Are you addicted?

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- Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:43:02 EST feH2OiMZ No.146941
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Are you?

If not, how long have you been using them recreationally for?
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Shitting Nuddlechadge - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:21:28 EST f+xKYOK8 No.147240 Reply
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>>146958

I mean did anyone really not see this coming jfc just listen to half the music around these days hyping up " bars " like they aren't fentanyl or just plain bunk af almost all the time. The idea of taking "bars" at a time itself is retarded, that kind of thinking got me up to 8-16mg alpraz daily. If I wasn't able to taper like I did I'd probably have met a very painful end

Yes - I'd consider myself addicted, an easy test is seeing a pile of your favorite benzo in a picture & realizing it's sexier then porn

mm that ass tho
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Frederick Niddlemed - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 05:14:09 EST qX1zulka No.147270 Reply
>>147240
I was scripted 1mg footballs and never had problems stopping them or nothing like abusing them all way fast. But when I visited my friend who was told when tapering that at one point he had the largest script for Xanax 2mg in the whole little rural town area where he lived (woodmill town, 10-25k towns and villages lost up north in the province). Anyways, its all psychological, he would trade some 2mg bars for my 2mg clonaz because he wanted something with a longer half-life, and he was the last person to give me a brand name Xanax 2mg bar that says Xanax, my 1mg brand name ones said Upjohn, I think that's what they say now here too.

And yeah, no reason to take more than 4mg xanax at once when you have little to no tolerance or even with a tolerance...if you take one as soon as the other dose has stopped, the short duration etc. will fuck your system quick, its better to get addicted to diaz, clonaz, librium 25's etc. much less redosing needed if you're gonna do that, xanax and halcion (mmm man I wish I could order some brand name 0.25 Halcions still, its still prescribable here but good fucking luck except for cancer-related anxiety and stuff like that) should really be only for PRN use.
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Betsy Fiddlemadge - Wed, 02 Oct 2019 02:54:46 EST 0SRUm69r No.147287 Reply
>>147240
this is so fucking true. I'm sitting here at 2 in the morning clean off benzos for like 3-4 months just staring at pictures and I almost want to cry lol

Drug Test Chances?

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- Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:42:25 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147241
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I know this question is asked all the time, but I wanted some outside input. After not having any benzos/gabapentinoids whatsoever for at least 30 days minimum, after some negative events IRL...

I consumed exactly 0.5mg pharma alprazolam IR sublingually and 300mg non-staggered gabapentin orally. At roughly 1hr longer than exactly 5.5 days after consumption, I have a scheduled urine test that is 100% guaranteed to test for the major metabolite of alprazolam as well as gabapentin (I believe it tests for gabapentin only no metabolites). I'm not sure what cutoff levels it checks for, but it's a standard Suboxone/Subutex doc's monthly, or in my case every 2-3 months, urine test.

Is 5 days and approximately 13 hours after sublingual use of 0.5mg pharma alprazolam and 300mg oral gabapentin enough to let me piss clean? I can't use synthetic urine or substitute with someone else's clean urine because they also make sure I test positive for amphetamines, suboxone, and like 3-5 other medications. Testing negative for like 3-6 other meds I'm prescribed or otherwise using synthetic urine would be 10-100x worse than popping hot for xanax.

How likely am I to pass if I just drink a fuck ton of water the entire day before and the first ~4-6hr of the day of testing? Will I pass if I just drink water moderately the night before and the morning of, making sure I piss 2-4 times before my test? I know it's only 0.5mg alprazolam and 300mg gabapentin, but I'm mostly worried about the alprazolam.
Most sites say it takes ~2-7 days to test negative for a single xanax usage, with a range of ~1-3 weeks for chronic users. For gabapentin, most sites I could find say only ~2-4 days to piss clean, but don't specify if that's single or chronic usage.

I definitely haven't used xanax for at least ~14 days before this single dose, most likely 21-30 days, and if I did use it before that it was definitely no more than 2x a week and probably an average of 1-1.5x per week at doses of 1.5mg or less, usually 1mg. I know for SURE I didn't dose any gabapentin at least a full week before this single 300mg dosage. As for gabapentin, I've been a lot more liberal with its usage, but usually only 100mg gabapentin about 75-80% of the time and maybe the occasional 200mg gabapentin about ~20-25% of all doses, but it was all a solid 5+ days (likely 7+ days) before this recent 300mg dose.

Again, it will be pretty much 5.5 days plus 1 hour on the dot from the moment I first sublingually dosed 0.5mg xanax, and maybe ~10min later orally dosed 300mg gabapentin whilst also washing down any residual alprazolam for de facto oral administration.

I would describe my metabolism as very, very slow in terms of physical activity (haven't been exercising besides swimming in the pool for around 60-90min approx. 2x a day for the last 2-3 weeks since I've been spending like 5-7hr/day just applying for new jobs or researching new jobs whilst sitting on the computer doing either other field-related research or writing), except for the fact that I have taken a minimum of 75mg adderall IR per day at least ~3-5 days before dosing the xanax+gaba and at least 60mg adderall IR/day for multiple weeks before that, taking I believe 90mg IR the day before/day of dosing xanax+gabapentin (began sublingually consuming the 0.5mg pharma xanax around ~1-1:30am and definitely for sure washing down the 300mg non-staggered gabapentin within ~10-30min of the sublingualed xanax, guaranteeing that it was all fully dissolved and presumably active in my system by 2:30am).

My test is pretty much on the dot 5.5 days since the moment I washed the gabapentin down (10min after sublingual xanax), if not 5.5 days plus 60-90min. Tomorrow, which is ~3.5-4 days before the test, I plan to walk/jog on the treadmill at least about ~120min total, with between ~40-45min of it being jogging, but I don't want to exercise any additional days closer than 72hr before the test out of fear that doing so will simply release more xanax, as xanax is supposedly lipid-soluble and is definitely not water soluble.

What are your guy's thoughts? What should I take to help me? The biggest reason I don't want to dilute the fuck out of my urine sample is because not only does it specifically test for "specific gravity" and I believe it's called creatinine content, but also my levels of amphetamine, buprenorphine, and at least 2 other medications' levels will be tested for. It's extremely important that my buprenorphine levels look "normal" or higher than normal (normally take 4mg/day but am scripted 24mg/day, so I've been taking 6mg/day snorted or plugged the last 3 days and plan to jump to 8mg/day for 2 days, then ~16-28mg the last 2 days before and morning of testing to ensure my levels look right), though it's okay and actually beneficial if my adderall levels look a bit low.

Again, what's especially important like I said is the levels of 2-3 other non-controlled medications, as evidence that I'm not taking them regularly will make him less likely to switch my daily adderall IR script back to dexedrine IR but same dosage. I want the dexedrine script because it has less side effects, causes less insomnia, causes less negative effects on the heart/cardio system, and is ~25-33% stronger per mg, which will significantly help me not run out early, as I had been taking ~120mg+/day for a few weeks on a wild binge. Thankfully I've been on usually 75mg/day and maybe 2-3x/week 90mg/day for over a week, and plan to continue tapering down to ~60mg/day adderall so that it's at least a half-way acceptable dose in terms of long term neurotoxicity.

What else...so I'm 6'2", ~230-240lb, so yeah...not slim lmao.

How fucked am I? The plan is to test my first piss of the day with a home test Saturday morning, or roughly ~3.25 days before the actual test and ~2.25 days since I consumed the xanax. Unfortunately I only have a few benzo dipstick tests and no gabapentin/gabapentinoid dipstick tests whatsoever.

5.5 days should be more than long enough for "just" a single dose of 300mg gabapentin from what I've seen online, but it seems like at 5.5 days since single xanax consumption, even at such a low dose, has a significant chance of making me test positive, even if the chance is somewhat below 50%.

Basically I need to decide before going in there if I'll tell the truth or not. One of my grandparents just had two cancer-related surgeries and is likely to have additional stage 3 or higher cancer which we'll find out in roughly 2 weeks, which has been impacting me psychologically. So yeah, I can "use" that as an excuse, but I'd REALLY not want to have to do that if it's not needed.

tl;dr consumed just 0.5mg pharma xanax sublingually and 300mg non-staggered oral gabapentin exactly ~132-133hr (5.5 days) before a urine test UA that is guaranteed to test for xanax's major metabolite and gabapentin (likely just gabapentin no metabolites). No xanax was consumed at least 2 weeks, like 3-4 weeks, before that lone dosage. Previous xanax use was not consistent enough to bioaccumulate; previous gabapentin use is similar in that it definitely hadn't bioaccumulated. Low metabolism, 6'2" 235-240lb, apart from arguably high dose daily adderall usage. Will I fail?
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dr. m - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 19:33:01 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147278 Reply
>>147275

Roughly 4.5-4.75 days since dosing 0.5mg xanax, and I still failed. There was a slight shade on the positive line, but it's definitely still a negative.
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lol - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 20:27:01 EST BqpvRW4y No.147280 Reply
>>147278

Damn im around same height and weight and 5 days is enough to get a mg out in time, i think tests matter due to different sensitivity, you might just have to take a loss on this one and take it as a lesson, hopefully you somehow pass
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dr. m - Tue, 01 Oct 2019 21:13:07 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147284 Reply
>>147280

Ended up doing my last at home dip test approximately ~3hr before the actual test after significantly diluting my urine, and I actually PASSED lmao. Of course I decided to just dilute some more and not confess to taking either 0.5mg xanax or 300mg gabapentin. There's definitely still a solid chance I'll fail (idk ~10-40%? who knows), but hopefully nothing comes of it. My doc and I have a great relationship and I've never failed for an opioid once, or anything besides occasional xanax or maybe one weed positive IIRC, and I need to keep it that way. If I do test positive for xanax, I doubt anything will come from it unless I fail again within the next 1-3 months.

The only major immediate downside is he might revoke my privileges of only coming in every ~10-12 weeks and instead make it every 4-6 weeks, which would totally suck. Another possibility is his office calls me randomly within the next 2 weeks or so and says I need to report to the nearest urine testing center within 48 hours for a retest if tested positive, inconclusive, or invalid (low creatinine, invalid specific gravity values, etc.)

PSA: there ARE effectively snortable benzos

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- Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:10:15 EST iLlEpcOH No.147198
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the common rule of them for benzos is eat them, or potentially smoke them if they're weird ones like etizolam, but that insufflation is useless because bioavailabilty but I have some STRONG evedence to the contrary in the case of SOME benzos, I've snorted still like xanax and kpins and it sucked nasty drip, kicked in a little faster cause drip but was weak but heres what I found out

TEMAZEPAM is snortable as all hell, they're caps so I thought what the hell, tine caps, not a lot material, so I figured fuck it lets try, no burn, no drip, sticks to your nose, and you get a legitimate rush, just did and I went from chill to like legit rush of relax and euphoria

any other benzos that are like this? maybe etizolam since you can smoke it? bioavailabilty varies a lot even between benzos

also i just gotta ask, if I cut this shit up really fine and disolved it in in something that it would disolve in it (I know its not very water soluable) that' relatiely safe to put in your veins could I reasonable shoot it? or what about IM?

this shit is the best benzo ive ever tried and for real this is the shit and I feel like it's got a lot of cool ROAs, ima try vaping it

what a versitable legitimately euphoric benzo, specially with a bit of speed mixed in lol

wow my god awhole knew world has opened up, shame it's so hard to cop but my doc gave me a SIXTY day supplie I mean holy shit, I put away 30 for a party and now I got like 5 left after this bender, i got work in two hours so I'm about to get to the last bit of enjoying this shit but god damn this is neat

any other benzos that have good ROAs other than oral? I think the "just eat it" dogma is bs cause like I said I know for a fact etz smokes well, whats safe to shoot, i'm goin all out, this is the beginning of a great time for the forseeable future, sorted my self out with a year t break from all things and now I can come back and have less of a dependency issue, gonna get a couple time delay safes and DAMN I can't wait to get back into responsible use shit this stuff is great

so i guess what other benzos have effective roas beyond just eating? minus boofing cause that always kind of works but idk

point is, it's a whole knew world folks

will report how vaping it goes, setting up a foil
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Matilda Blackville - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:12:35 EST iLlEpcOH No.147236 Reply
pretty much just came to, god damn I made a genuine ass of myself, all criticisms made are valid,i don't remember making this post, I don't remember if I was ever successful in smoking the shit, I have a few frames of a memory of trying to smoke it off foil but it wasn't melting so I just cut it up and ate the rest

I think at some point I figured out that just eating it was the best solution, but if I had easy access to needles i would've shot it probably

woke up having bought an oil burner, but I never used it apparently, because it's spotless

among other things I apparently went to the sex shop and bought a box of poppers and 500 nangs and put them on my emergency credit card, I do remember huffing those nangs though so I'm not counting that as a total loss but 500 shit
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Matilda Blackville - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:15:23 EST iLlEpcOH No.147237 Reply
>>147236
also it should go without saying that those "30 I put away for a party" are gone now lol, along with 10 bars I legitimately did have put away for a party
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Frederick Niddlemed - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 05:04:21 EST qX1zulka No.147269 Reply
>>147198
Loprazolam is the greatest water-soluble pill one can crush (they're clonazepam tiny, unlike pilled Midazolam, which either the 15 or 30's, both are big ass horse pills), not so with Loprazolam, but....expensive as shit on actual IOP's due to rarity, only a handful of European countries have it, like Lormetazepam (not water soluble but goddamn, it has an amazing profile that makes it very desirable, any dutch or belgians and whoever other european here could tell you, it's good shit). I was sent Loprazolam (no, not lorazepam or ativan, lopra-zolam), it's not an RC either) by a Belgian friend and I was shooting them up, had tons of Sterifilts then too so, it was great, they don't come in doses higher than 1mg and it was even better even orally than oral midazolam, which is good for sleep but it's like Temaz/Flurazepam, the 30's are where its at, the 15's are meh.

Yeah you can snort the inside of benzos in capsules, temaz, Librium, Dalmane (flurazepam)...maybe some others, but thats those I know are in capsules only here, it works though absorption through the nasal spots that intake all insufflable active compounds, but it's no better than just eating em, also, snorting shit is already bad, why do it when unneeded, save yourself from daily snorting of powders I say, you don't want sinus issues like I do, I'll tell you that.

Klonopin High

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- Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:13:14 EST i5aBM4Qv No.147248
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I'm be honest. I acquired about 50 kpins (and have a ton more on the way recently and wanted to know how much i have to take (in mgs) to get a buzz on. I have taken 6 before with no effect. Am I fucking something up or is this shit really that weak? I am getting them free so thats a plus.(they are the Green M c 14;s)
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 19:35:31 EST uY+OWDqK No.147264 Reply
The subtle effects of benzos, anecdotally, seem to affect individuals with anxiety more so than individuals who do not have higher rates of anxiety.
Much in the same regard, a low dosage of a benzo could theoretically have the same effect for someone with social anxiety disorder as a much higher dose is equivalent for another person’s night out.
The clonazepam described are made by Mylan Pharmaceuticals. People have varying ideas of what genetics are better/worse and if there is even a difference between generic meds and brand name meds. Objectively, differences in brands can exist. Personally, I have had the extreme displeasure of having my scripts filled with Mylan MFG diazepam and clonazepam. If I would normally take 10mg diazepam or 1mg clonazepam manufactured by Teva then it would take 1.5x to 2x the dosage to receive the same effects, but still even for a shorter period.

What is your prior experience with benzos like?

>>147259
This.
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Connypin - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:53:37 EST i5aBM4Qv No.147266 Reply
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>>147259
Yes, I ahve some pretty moderate anxiety (PTSD from Iraq mostly) and am anxious and jumpy alot of the time. I had a friend say they didn't work for him so he gave me about 150 in total. I took about six and feel eeeeehhhh. I'm just looking for the point where I feel mellowed out like I took a bar. Not chasing the high or anything I just want to know why they aren't working like i figure benzos should. I am normally prescribed Ativan but those ran out long ago. I don't have much of a tolerance atm unless you count the 6 I took yesterday. Maybe I should mix them with some promethozine?
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Frederick Niddlemed - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 04:30:18 EST qX1zulka No.147267 Reply
>>147248
Just 0.5mg wiill waste most non-medicated by a doctor everyday. I started with Rivos (clonaz is called Rivotril up here and almost everywhere else on earth, although the brand name Roche ones we have here do not have the amazing carved K's like in your brand name ones).I had HPPD and clonazepam is a known actual cure for HPPD and it did work, after a year and a half of taking 0.5mg twice a day, all visual weirdness from taking way too much acid in just 5-6 years was gone, which was a miracle. Anyways, I was super wrecked by taking 2x0.5 at once, so...you didnt specify the dose, but if it it's 2mg's...those wreck a noob, and clonaz is a good one for many reasons because it lasts a good while, but it takes a good hour before you get any feelings. 2mg will wreck a noob all day for sure, so don't pop more than 0.5 in the morning if you got something to do during the day that demands attention, unless you suffer from anxiety then somehow everything will become "normal", especially for people who don't know or would never admit to having an anxiety issue, that changes em entirely.

Careful, if you got like 0.25 or 0.5mg doses, no danger of getting more than a psychological addiction, if you don't have one already, but if they're 1 or 2's, don't dose too much of them all day errday 'cuz the stoppage will be painful, not too dangerous for somebody who doesn't take benzos everyday, but it will be pretty bad for you for a 2 days to a week.

Hope that helps.

Tolerance over time?

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- Thu, 26 Sep 2019 20:45:51 EST M/PQpJj4 No.147242
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I was taking prescribed 2mg lorazepam Ativan daily for a few months (about 4) and then lowered to 1mg for about the last 2. I just a bunch pressed xanax bars and they didn't hit me nearly as hard as I expected them to. They could be underpressed but they do give me a feeling I just have to take several (4-5) to get close to the feeling that 1 or 2 used to give me.

I know that tolerance grows and that ~6 months (maybe longer like 8 months) is a long time but I thought that the low dose of 1-2mg's lorazepam wouldn't create such a tolerance compared to the strength of alprazolam.

Does prolonged use even if it's just a small dose really grow your tolerance that much? How long would you think it takes for the tolerance to go back down?

Thanks
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dr. m - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 02:49:24 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147246 Reply
>>147242
By far the most likely variable in this equation is the severe undosing of your "bars." One bar is easily 5x as strong as another. If you're going to use street bars, you might as well order ~97-99% pure etizolam/diclazepam/phenazepam/arguably flualprazolam.
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Reuben Goggleford - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 17:18:47 EST waaYyCjz No.147262 Reply
>>147246

Agreed. If etizolam is illegal in your state read the biblw for ordering things in onion fields and buy that instead. Ppwder is super cheap and can ve volumetrically dosed with propelyn glycol, a mm scale, and a 1 ml syringe

Drug testing

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- Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:44:01 EST 2fOKw+fS No.147229
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I took a 1mg clonazolam pill I randomly found last night and got hired today for a job that wants to drug test me soon. No idea when it will be but would I be fine within a day or so with just 1 pill? Not a daily user of it either, I’ve been clean for a bit.
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Phoebe Breblingdedge - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 17:16:37 EST 2fOKw+fS No.147231 Reply
>>147230
Yes it’s clonZOLAM so I can’t make up excuses like “oh so and so gave me a klonopin when I was having anxiety” if it shows up as an RC. Also I heard drinking water only helps for flushing out THC, is that true?
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Eugene Webbersot - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 02:24:40 EST dudUPdod No.147232 Reply
>>147231
Clam I HEARD, heard is not all that likely to be detected in a drug test because of a lack of metabolites shared with regular pharmas. It's probably a good chance you will pass unless it is a very stringent test but definitely do what the other person said and do mid stream collection
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dr. m - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:16:30 EST Rt3E2wAH No.147234 Reply
>>147231

It's actually the opposite when it comes to THC. THC-COOH is lipid soluble, meaning dilution methods are LESS effective than diluting for other drug tests. Definitely dilute. You should be fine.

Tripping on Ambien

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- Fri, 23 Aug 2019 15:58:24 EST 1lQnYdH3 No.146934
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Is it just me or is ambien the trippiest benzo? Its sort of gives you a psychedlic experience, while i dont exactly full on trip like see patterns and weird shit and stuff it still does some weird thing, for example if im watching a movie in pitch dark while on ambien i get the sensation that im in a movie theatre and there are people watching the movie with me, theres commotion in the background but i dont hear voices or anything, its like walking down a crowded place but without the people and not focusing on what everyone is saying, not only that but when i close my eyes i began to have a trip in my imagination, sort of like im dreaming but awake, i start imagining all types of trippy shit. So what causes this specific benzo to act this way? Are there other benzo's like them? or are your experienciees different then mine? id love to kno.w
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Eliza Brenderhedge - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:46:29 EST gACrxJp9 No.147110 Reply
>>147024
its funny, zopiclone has never done anything to me other than the metalic taste - doesnt even make me feel drowsy and i still end up staying awake late on it even at the exact same doses you took.

Hmm
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Archie Brunkinfield - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:11:58 EST iLlEpcOH No.147112 Reply
I had Ambien a couple times and had a lot of memory loss and doing weird shit, putting on different clothes, writing random shit that didnt make any sense, that sort of thing but now i got zopiclone and its neat, a lot less trippy and more just sedating, mixed with alcohol 15mg felt like maybe 10-20mg diaz

Taste is so bad though, its not even really metallic, it's just like generic pill taste, like a xanax got stuck in my throat, drinking water helps for like a minute, eating helps a bit more but i usually have zero appetite
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Lydia Fablingtetch - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 14:44:48 EST FaZ22oVA No.147223 Reply
I was like eh there's no way I've been here over 10y & not known Ambien was a benzo this whole time

Anyways yeah I agree it's trippy. I also got my doc to script me 10mg/day. I'd describe it as a heavily aesthetic drug.. by that I mean it adds a very tangible yet strange ambiance to what you're doing (for instance I had just got out of the hospital & was staying with family, my brother was playing through Alien: Isolation; the vibes from just watching him play were surreal

That said it doesn't get you high per se & a lot of people have a similar opinion of the drug compared to Tramadol. If you think you have to be careful on benzos then be doubly careful with Ambien. I try to limit 40mg in a sitting as I've had those exact nights with the walrus where I wake up realizing I'd torn my room apart searching for pills that I'd already taken, called my mom at 5am mumbling the name of my friends gf, taken literally all the drugs at my place & so firmly believing I hadn't taken them even calling my doctor's office telling them (it's so cringe even typing this)

"I lost my medications down a storm drain" at work

For some reason they still fill my scripts for me lol

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