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Felt like I was nodding (or just sleeping ?)

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- Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:37:16 EST M/PQpJj4 No.149750
File: 1598596636619.jpg -(249388B / 243.54KB, 1200x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Felt like I was nodding (or just sleeping ?)
Suboxone + Xanax bars + Babapentin = weak form of trinity?

I just took these all today, not quite all at once but starting with the subs and then just a little gapapentin but then 4 xanax bars. Theshe bars seem a little potent and my tolerance is a little lower than usual rn.

I kinda felt like I was nodding, coming to and from for 4-5 hrs with some euphoria inbetween from the general fuckedupness but not quite the opi nod of warmth (didn't have any to mix)

Could the sleepiness be multiplied by all those drugs? It felt good but I didn't expect to fall asleep so much I was getting ready to play a videogame and ended up pretty much sleeping 4 -5 hrs away with bouts of unsteady noddiness.

Could this have also been dangerous at a low level (even with no opioids involved otehr than bupe?)

Thank you
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Brain - Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:43:30 EST MTmi3U3k No.149752 Reply
>>149751
Slow down man, that's not a good look in my personal experience. Others will notice and benzos use is a MAJOR way to expose drug addiction in someone in my opinion. Delusions of sobriety are real man
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Charlotte Nicklebanks - Fri, 28 Aug 2020 03:21:33 EST M/PQpJj4 No.149753 Reply
I used to be on opium for 2 yrs and before thenother weaker opiods for few yrs leading up to that (2 yrs really good PST lasting 24 hrs plus tons of other oxy 80's and all the other pills dilaudid, PST was the best but most physically draining)

I just did not expect if it was bupe to be able to nod at all or not? Just the other day I think I just fell asleep from 3 bars and then later in day another when I woke up another 2 , waste of bars lol haven't gotten the min awhile wanted to just chill and game unbothered cocoon of happiness (on bupe rn you know?)

For the past month I have been been taken ~4-8 300mg gabapentins so didn't think it would affect dose much but I had heard of the cocktail trinity before and wondered if these would act similar? I think it may have just been mostly the xanax bars with lower tolerance but this time seemed more sleepy/hypnotic head down nod if you feel me.

I have also had many a nod session back in the day and this one didn't feel too dangerous like gasping for breath out of nowhere or anything like that, just heavy sedation
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m - Thu, 03 Sep 2020 18:50:27 EST L5RT47+f No.149832 Reply
>>149753
How long have you been on bupe, and at what doses? What you described only happened to me 2-4x total over the first 2-3 week period of bupe use, specifically when I snorted 16-24+ mg at once instead of the typical 4-8mg subbed/day.

Ive never ever felt even semi-tired from bupe since, and I "only" take 4mg plugged or 6mg subbed per day. I've tried snorting/plugging doses as high as like maybe 48+ mg at once for "science," but I felt absolutely nothing besides maybe excessive sweating, nausea, and mild withdrawals in 1-3 days if I didn't crudely taper back down to normal doses.

Atavan Prescription

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- Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:53:29 EST t075d1R5 No.149594
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Hey, I have a serious anxiety/panic disorder and I recently got prescribed Lorazepam (generic Ativan) and I don't feel like it works. It's supposed to have immediate effects if used sparingly, and I'm not big on the effects of benzos so I have no temptation to use it recreationally.
I've got a bunch of 1mg pills and I take about one a week on average, that's the rate I have bad days at. But it's never really helped prevent the panic and anxiety I deal with and when i take it I still end up mentally debilitated on those bad days.
I'm asking here because you guys probably know best (I know nothing), so I wonder if something else I do interferes with it. I smoke weed and drink pretty much daily and I did acid about a week before I started taking the lorazepam. My Pharmacist just said I should avoid alcohol after taking it because it could really make me crash, but never said anything about ill effects or anything like that.
Do you guys know what up? Shoudl I ask my doctor to step it up to SSRI's? That idea kind of scares me.
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John Mobbersatch - Sun, 23 Aug 2020 15:04:18 EST pF2CUPxj No.149701 Reply
>>149594
Everytime i've taken benzos and drank the same night, I will remember absolutely nothing from that night. just calm down on the booze, the weed should be chilled
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Betsy Murdwill - Tue, 01 Sep 2020 03:59:17 EST t075d1R5 No.149796 Reply
>>149603
I drink about 4 9% beers a night, but I eat a lot so I'm not getting drunk, and I'm a late sleeper so that's usually over like 8 hours. I don't feel like it's excessive, but maybe it's affecting the drugs. As far as smoking goes, lately maybe a gram a night over the same time. strong too I guess, i usually buy the 20%+ thc stuff at the store.
More on weekends obviously, so like prob 32 beers and 10 grams of weed per week
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Betsy Murdwill - Tue, 01 Sep 2020 04:02:48 EST t075d1R5 No.149797 Reply
>>149605
im not really struggling with alcohol tbh, I'm not really worried about it. I do drink a lot, but I'm not getting drunk and I'm not trying to get fucked up. I know i drink alot though, so I'm just worried if it would affect the effects of the Ativan.
I only drink at night after work/dinner, but the panic attacks can happen any time. I've only recently started using the drugs to fight it, and I feel like it's not working that well.

40 Proof solution instead of PG

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- Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:17:27 EST MTmi3U3k No.149741
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Say if i ran out of PG, could I use 40 proof to make a solution in the meantime? 250mg Etiz/125ml 40proof vodka?

I've done this before without issues. Although, I know its not a good route. I'm in a pinch and need some advice. I forget solubility and all that but i'm pretty sure It will be okay.

Really bar'd out, so sorry if i made some mistakes.
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Brain - Tue, 01 Sep 2020 02:01:26 EST MTmi3U3k No.149794 Reply
>>149787
Thanks M, I did that with one guy and all he said was what I said above. I'll Figure this out and try with what you said. Appreciate the help, the blackout is getting bad and i need to ween off
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Brain - Tue, 01 Sep 2020 02:03:57 EST MTmi3U3k No.149795 Reply
>>149788
I'll come in discord soon sometime M, just pretty fucked up recently and don't feel like talking too much unless I benz. I gotta slow down/get sober
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Brain - Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:33:16 EST MTmi3U3k No.149804 Reply
>>149689
Got some 151 proof, all is good now. Thanks for the help, I really need to ween.

You helped me a bunch, the employees didn't know and I also should of used my eyes a little better. nb

Fake pills?

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- Thu, 02 Jul 2020 10:42:47 EST k2sz4DlC No.149309
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What are the odds these are fake? Not even mine but a friend bought them and I'm always skeptical.
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lol - Mon, 31 Aug 2020 06:36:32 EST BqpvRW4y No.149778 Reply
>>149772
Ive been around these things so many years now, they will easily chip and shit, def my favorite kind of kpins. If people are pressing these now then its just one more reason for me to not use
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:13:30 EST Cxhmtlnt No.149782 Reply
>>149778
Do they carry a minty taste like the Clonaz here? Because these were bitter like DN alp
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lol - Tue, 01 Sep 2020 00:36:33 EST xQEqVS9+ No.149789 Reply
>>149782
Yeah they have that slighlty minty sweet taste if you sublingual them. Ive never heard of them being fsked but you would know better than me, its always weird to see pills like that from a different country pop up on top of all the other shit bein pressed its probably good to stay wary

Benzo Roll Call?

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- Sun, 09 Aug 2020 09:20:54 EST SPxBXMVs No.149567
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In accordance with my own current predicament, can we get a benzo roll call thread in full force? Maybe you're like me in the sense that you NEED a good friend in your area. Maybe the recent past has exposed lots of FAKE friends. Maybe darkwebs markets have proven unreliable lately (grrrr). Let's create a helpful space for one another. (remember: no comments suitable for being flagged or anything revealing personal/private info in excess)


So I'll start:
21 f in the 214, 469, 972 area looking for a good friend. Quality friendship will turn into a regular thing with copious benefits. If there are any friends out there who could help out or maybe even have some advise that might help me find that elusive friend near me don't be shy. And thanks in advance 😘
K.I.K: avaryansb
😘

(Pic for attention)
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m - Mon, 31 Aug 2020 03:38:29 EST L5RT47+f No.149773 Reply
>>149765

I literally suggested ONLY consuming raw powder in PG/ethanol form. You didn't even read 10% of my dose.

Tell us about your experience taking derivatives/designer drugs in Canada!

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- Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:39:29 EST pISoo34z No.149729
File: 1598474369052.jpg -(1069893B / 1.02MB, 3456x3686) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Tell us about your experience taking derivatives/designer drugs in Canada!
Hello,
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The results from this survey will help Health Canada to better understand the presence and demand for NPS in Canada. If you are interested in contributing to the science of new psychoactive substances, please check out the survey!

Survey link: https://secure.malatest.com/prod/cwx.cgi?_lang=EN&_proj=2020_NPS&U=37

Please feel free to post the link to other online communities who may be interested in the survey!
Thank you!

Eitzolam Vendor?

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- Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:18:41 EST XJNWAmse No.149716
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I hate to be that guy but what’s a good place to buy eitzolam online? I’m not trying to get scammed

Valium and kava

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- Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:44:47 EST bcsEr8YA No.149678
File: 1598017487093.jpg -(79238B / 77.38KB, 650x650) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Valium and kava
Does mixing the two have any useful potentiation for sleep or muscle relaxation? because im in desperate need of a good nights rest and don't have my sleep aids of choice atm but all i have 20mg of valium, kava extract caps, melatonin and f-pheni. How bad is the liver load when kava is mixed with benzos? i read it hurts the liver but fuck my liver it can at least suffer for one nite rite?

Help me understand how Benzo tolerance works

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- Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:21:27 EST ESwr1X/h No.149623
File: 1597688487672.jpg -(231599B / 226.17KB, 1600x821) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Help me understand how Benzo tolerance works
Does bezo tolerance build quickly or gradually? /benz/ posts have people building tolerance dosing once a week, that seems so quick
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Nathaniel Sombleshaw - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:45:33 EST 3tfnpIJO No.149624 Reply
>>149623
Moderately quickly, especially with the triazalobenzodiazepines such as Alprazolam, Midazolam etc. Fades at the same rate.
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Martha Moffingstock - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:00:35 EST DaPmEI2a No.149625 Reply
>>149624

so does that mean if I take 2mg today, tomorrow I would already begun building a tolerance? Or does it come after time of repeated use?
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m - Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:13:20 EST gNIXakDo No.149653 Reply
>>149625
Generally, yes, youd both build a marginally increased tolerance and subjectively feel the 2nd dose less, as most benzos have a significant half-life and 24hr later there's still like 33-50% of the 1st dose in your system, or even more depending on the benzo. That doesnt even include primary active metabolites either.

Interactions of nicotine/tobacco on benzos

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- Tue, 18 Aug 2020 19:00:58 EST prgSP4lY No.149635
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So apparently using nicotine will both decrease plasma concentrations and increase clearance of benzos when taken together. Is the difference that significant/noticeable? I love me a ciggy or three to calm down, but if it significantly decreases the effectiveness of my precious clonazepam script, would it make a difference to limit my nicotine intake to just enough to keep me out of nicotine withdrawal? Currently scripted 1mg clonazapam twice a day with an average 15 ciggies smoked a day if that mattress

Quality

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- Sun, 26 Jul 2020 04:20:32 EST lwAOSOV5 No.149476
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Don't usually post here so looking for some info.
I am an alcoholic and methhead, my family knows about my alcohol problem and refuse to be around me when I drink. They don't know about the meth problem. Thing is I love meth but I am too paranoid when I am not drinking on it so I was thinking about sourcing some benzos for when I'm around them.
How bad are benzos cut right now? My biggest fear is getting shit cut with fentanyl. I am supposed to be quitting drinking so I can probably go through the hassle of getting a script for withdrawals but I hate going to the doctor.
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Sophie Grandham - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 23:59:28 EST BGH46ohv No.149553 Reply
>>149476
Its pretty easy to get etizolam or fluoralprazolam. Possibly real benzos too for more money. Honestly youre best getting a script for your dr/psych. Its really worth it. Youll probably end up addicted to meff alcohol and benzos tho so gl. maybe try opiates :^)
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Edward Henkinspear - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 01:38:27 EST JPfBZ9CS No.149632 Reply
>>149476
Don't bother, You WON'T look normal on them anyway, you'll just look like you're really drunk. Etiz is what cued everyone into my addiction problems, and landed me in rehab for three months, no joke.
Use them to get some fucking sleep instead my guy.

Ativan - from pill to liquid?

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- Mon, 17 Aug 2020 03:01:43 EST uikZ7lKf No.149617
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I have around 100 2mg Ativan tablets. Is there any way to make it into a different substance (oral liquid or intravenous) that would make it more potent? Or am I better off just taking them orally?

I have only ever taken 10mg at a time, but I am looking for something a little stronger (and don’t have access to opiates).

Not into snorting, don’t feel it much.
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m - Mon, 17 Aug 2020 11:04:59 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149622 Reply
>>149617

No matter what you do to lorazepam, it doesn't magically become something but lorazepam.

Not, not at all. First off, ativan/lorazepam isn't effectively water soluble, so you'd have to use probably 151 or higher proof ethanol (I don't even know for sure what its ethanol solubility is). But even doing that is a total waste of time. It's already 85% orally/sublingually efficient, and any method attempted to raise the BA to nearly 100% (IV/IM, etc) either won't be effective or isn't worth the significant help risks. You'd need AT LEAST 0.22ug micron filters to even consider IVing it, and realistically you'd surely lose ~5-10%+ of the product during the filtration process (since you'd have to filter with cotton first and then a 0.22ug filter, and the cotton would absorb some of the actual lorazepam).

Regardless, IV/IM vascular/muscular damage is definitely not worth it just to try injecting one of the least recreational popular benzos on the market. It makes no sense.

If you're obsessed with trying to "get more" out of them, crush up your dose folded between a thin piece of sturdy paper (index card etc.) using the bottom of a spoon. Dump the powder under your tongue, with roughly half of each dose on each side. Personally I gently rube my tongue against the floor of my mouth side to side for a fear second and then just wait. Another option is to swallow the powdered dose with a bit of water on a completely empty stomach.

Perhaps making a high ethanol tincture (again 151+ proof aka 75.5%+ ABV, but 190 proof/95% ABV is better) that you volumetrically dose might in theory be marginally faster, but we're talking like maybe under 5 minutes faster onset. It's really pointless.

Most Rx benzos (apart from midazolam, triazolam, arguably temazepam for some, and pharma alprazolam/clonazepam for a subset of users with real anxiety) aren't euphoric in an objective sense, and even those listed are more of a relative pseudo-euphoria for those with an unpleasant anxiety baseline. You have lorazepam. Lorazepam is frankly full as shit.

Snorting/plugging most benzos (excluding midazolam and triazolam) is very ineffective. They're nearly all not water soluble.

>I've ever taken 10mg at a time

The word "only" and the phrase "10mg Ativan" don't belong in the same sentence. 10mg lorazepam is roughly equipotent to a whopping 5mg pharma xanax/klonopin, 10mg etizolam, or 100mg valium. Your expectations for ativan's recreational utility is quite misguided. You can squeeze out heroin from lorazepam, sorry.

nb

Not Strong Enough

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- Mon, 03 Aug 2020 15:15:33 EST ZZokR4X1 No.149523
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yesterday i took 70mg of valium 3mg of xans and 2L of beer over the course of a night, but i didnt black out or acted retarded according to my friends and i remember everything clearly, is this because im 250 pounds?
i want to be bartarded, you know? be fucked up
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m - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:52:07 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149608 Reply
>>149584
Long term? Probably no more than every 10 days minimum (one dose no redosing) for super short acting benzos like triazolam or midazolam, around every 14 or so days for short-medium duration benzos like etizolam and xanax, between every 14-21ish days for long duration benzos like ativan, and 14-28 days between use for very long duration benzos like clonazepam and diazepam.

Everyone is different though, and by tolerance gain I mean like taking valium every 2 weeks on the dot without missing a dose for say 1-5+ years. Eventually you just build a tolerance, even if you dont have a physical dependency.

I suggest at least a week between doses of etizolam/xanax, 10 days for lorazepam, 14 days for clonazepam, and 14+ days for valium. Try to do at least a once a week limit for all benzos if you want them to work long term. 2x/mo is a safer bet long term to avoid excessive mental addiction.
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m - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:55:24 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149609 Reply
>>149534
Requiring 10-16 beers to get drunk is NOT a low tolerance. Ths average non-drinker only need like 2-4 drinks in 30min to be somewhat impaired, and 3-6 drinks to be moderately or more drunk. I dont know where you got the mindset that getting drunk from a 12 pack is somehow being a lightweight/normal/even maybe below normal, but it's a totally skewed and inaccurate way of thinking.

nb
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Fucking Weffingket - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:59:41 EST XiHqRv0i No.149610 Reply
>>149534
oh my god i remember when i thought 10-16 beers wasn't a lot lmao, and i guess when you're drinking 30+ like i was it's not

Am I experiencing benzo withdrawal and tolerance from my alcohol abuse?

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- Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:16:30 EST k4NyAJ/i No.149587
File: 1597410990368.png -(225768B / 220.48KB, 1562x680) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Am I experiencing benzo withdrawal and tolerance from my alcohol abuse?
For the first time in my life I became very depressed on July 2020. Mind you that I haven’t abused alcohol this heavily in my entire life but something fierce took over my self-control and I went to town with the drinking. During that time I also took Xanax at odd intervals at various dosages.


Around the 9th in August I noticed that my stomach hurt which caused me to cease drinking. I had a pretty sour stomach for around 2-3 days which kept me up on the 10th. I had a bout of bad insomnia so I took 1mg of Xanax on the 10th to sleep, which indeed helped. The next day on the 11th I tried sleeping around 11:30pm to which I struggled to sleep again. So I took another 1mg of Xanax around 3am. Then in the evening on the same day (12th) I took 300mcg of melatonin (yes, I have micro doses of melatonin) which helped me get a good 9 hours of sleep. Then around the 13th I tried to sleep again without melatonin and again my stomach prevented me from sleeping and I had some bad shits.


As I type this now at 6am Pacific Time I took another 0.5mg of Xanax at 2am but it had no effect on my sleep. After shitting some more my stomach seems to have calmed down once again.


Understand that during the times my stomach hurt I have been eating gluten which I am intolerant to (not a celiac, I just can’t handle it) so I know that might have played a part in the bad shits and indigestion. But I was wondering if my alcohol binge has caused my Xanax tolerance to go up.


Usually I’m able to take 0.5mg (or ¼ of a 2mg bar) and fall right asleep easily! I also worry if maybe the cross tolerance from the alcohol has caused me go into a benzo withdrawal! The only thing I know is that when my stomach feels like shit I can’t sleep, and the days I took the tiny 300mcg microdose of melatonin I slept pretty well (beside some funky dreams that didn’t bother me much.)


Does anyone know if abusing alcohol then taking some Xanax could cause someone to go into benzo withdrawal? And do you know how strong the cross tolerance is between alcohol and Xanax?


I made a chart showing you the exact days I drank and how much Xanax I took. Note that every day I drank I only drank 500ml max of 13% red wine. The Xanax dosages I took are listed above the squares on the days I took them. Some red squares have a light blue square in the middle. Those are they days I took alcohol and Xanax together.
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Sophie Cluffingmare - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 12:24:30 EST zUlBaRKo No.149597 Reply
>>149587
benzo and alcohol wds are very similar, both can be incredibly dangerous. all in all benzos are healthier than alcohol physically but that can open the door to a much worse addiction than was possible with alcohol. basically whatever gaba shit you do make sure to taper off slowly maybe 5-10% at a time
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m - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:42:22 EST U5YgnJq6 No.149607 Reply
>>149587
It seems pretty simple to me. You eating gluten upset your stomach, upsetting your stomach caused you to cease alcohol usage, which then caused you to experience insomnia due to rebound effects of alcohol (not the same thing as withdrawal), and the alcohol use causing cross-tolerance combined with alcohol cessation has resulted in bad rebound insomnia (that makes insomnia worse than normal, meaning xanax subjectively seems less effective because your insomnia is worse than ever before) that is less effectively treated with benzos than in the past.

You are not physically dependent to either GABAergic substance. Your use has been too short in duration and too low in dose.

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