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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

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- Mon, 03 Feb 2020 18:13:26 EST XtU6NF5/ No.148230
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Anyone have experience with zopiclone? is it legit?
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Cyril Clopperwere - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:54:30 EST vosX63bq No.148280 Reply
>>148230

First of all, do not do what I did.

My friend was prescribed zopiclone for sleep a few years back. We were young, reckless and would let each one another try the others' prescriptions. I liked the zopiclone so much, I would trade Adderall for them (clearly my friend was stoked).

Well, I have a history of overdoing it with the psychoactive substances. The therapeutic dose for zopiclone is 7.5mg - 15mg, roughly.. that would have us in a benz'd like state, hallucinating mildly, acting whacky/thinking creatively.. but I wound up taking more than 100mg of the zopiclone, one day. My friend let me stay at his house. As an adult, a hospital may have been a better option but, you know.

When I looked across my friend's dimly lit, large bedroom, the carpet began to grow outwards and form structures.. landscapes, buildings, an entire city is now illuminating a dark corner of his room. I lay on my stomach and scuttle up towards it. Angry people are shaking their fists inside of their tiny cars, looking all around in terror when I would "pick up" their car. Yes, these hallucinations were all but fully interactive.

I kept returning to that carpeted floor to lay my face sideways and look down long it, the texture always morphed into such complex patterns and tapestry-like designs the likes of which man could never design.

It is sunrise. I have no shoes or socks on and am walking through a trail in the forest. God damn. I kept remembering that we had gone to a campground, I left to take a piss and have been wandering for hours.. only to forget, once more and continue exploring the wilderness without a care in the world. Problem? Our drive was coming to get us, that morning and I was seriously lost.

Anyway I find our cabin and my friends all scream at me in unison, my feet muddy and shins cut/bitten to shreds. My friend asked me where his bottle of zopiclone was, I said I don't even remember getting it from you and he shook his head in disbelief.

When my zopiclone experiments weren't wrecking vacations, I remember leaving the old computer monitor open on a black white page. The static and buzzing lines moving down the screen would gain colour, collect into a 3D, animated shape like a horse running or a digital blueprint of a military machine driving on the spot.

Inanimate objects take on personas. Struggling to open a window, I saw a belt - previously slung over the back of a chair - lift one end of itself (it's head") turn towards me and ask if I need help. I responded without even thinking it odd, "how could you help?"

That being said, I have read many zopiclone reports and not many people experience hallucinations as strongly as I do.
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Caroline Numbleshaw - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:28:50 EST tJ2pMbQo No.148281 Reply
zoplicone btfo by zolpidem
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m - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:14:46 EST IErahAwd No.148290 Reply
>>148230
I don't think I've ever had zopiclone, maybe in SE Asia I did, but I have had lunesta aka eszopiclone or something, which is I believe a related isomer of zopiclone that was considered so similar to zopiclone by the FDA that it supposedly wasn't offered a patent.

I like it in that out of the "big 3" in the US (ambien, lunesta, and sonata), it's by far the most structurally related z drug similar to benzos by a mile. It agonizes the benzo-related subtypes much more fully and in unique ways that are different from the other two.

That being said, it's also by far the least trippy. Sonata was always like a less trippy way shorter acting ambien, and again lunesta almost like a benzodiazepine. It does taste like metallic ass that can linger for hours, so I always put it inside a gel capsule. That did seem to help, but it still tasted a little metallic likely a result of being in the bloodstream in general.

Lunesta goes great alongside benzos when you're low to moderate tolerance and are trying to stretch your benzos supply, or are stuck with a less recreational benzodiazepine like ativan, diclaz, valium, librium, arguably maybe kpins...and goes even better with like low to moderate dose xanax + small dose lunesta + small dose like 2-4 servings of booze.

Tapering off of clonazepam

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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 01:50:43 EST h7vfxyE1 No.148141
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Sorry, detox is full of idiots smoking weed before their drug test and other drugs is busy getting high on Tylenol.

I was on 10mg of clonazepam a day for a bit over a year. I was buying off the DNM and I’m fairly certain they were either pressed or very expired. I took one fresh from the pharmacy and it was 2-3x stronger and felt different. So I guess i have no idea how much or what I was taking. For the last 6 weeks, I’ve been on phenobarbital. I took 30mg for 2 weeks, 15mg for 2 weeks, and now I’m taking 10mg. I’ve never really experienced withdrawal, but I’m scared. I have clonazepam and diazepam that I could take super short term (2-3 days) but only a few days of phenobarbital left. Any ideas on weaning off?
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Martin Sadgeville - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:45:50 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148186 Reply
>>148180
Most long term side effects from quitting benzos come from jumping off too high of dose. Theres no way to tell really, if it would be worth tapering less. 1.5mg diazepam is very low but I would honestly taper to <1mg if you have the resources. You might be fine jumping at that amount, but if you're done this much, you might as well do it smooth as possible. https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm recommends jumping at 1mg diazepam or 2.5mg librium which is like 0.75mg diazepam
Also if you make an diazepam solution, you need something with fat, it is somewhat hydrophobic. Milk is the traditional go to but it wouldnt keep long. You might be able to use olive or mct oil. Look it up
Barbs work differently than benzos, benzos are also soft antipsychotics. I don't have any experience with barbs but I think they work by agonizing the receptor, mimicking gaba your body would naturally release while benzos work by making your receptors more sensitive (not positive), if that helps at all. I don't think you'll experience much barb w/d, it will mostly be from benz.
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Doris Sangerbad - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 02:37:22 EST h7vfxyE1 No.148270 Reply
>>148186
OP back again. If anyone cares how this wrapped up -

I went to a new doctor in a new city, told him I was tapering off of clonaz, told him I had been taking diazepam (phenobarb would raise eyebrows) and he offered to cut me off a script for 60x 5mgs. When he went to put in the order, he found 2mgs, and offered them to me instead. I graciously accepted. Sub 3mg, it’s hard to get a consistent taper. I took 4mg the first night (woo partay) and then 2mg each night after. Been really easy and I don’t notice a difference. Will cut down .5mg every 2 weeks. I should be done done in a month or two. I’m so glad to be towards the tail end of this. Benzos are a bitch.
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Caroline Numbleshaw - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:31:58 EST tJ2pMbQo No.148282 Reply
>>148141
10mg a day?!? That's a massive dose! You should try to taper with diazepam or diclazepam, only downside is you would need to start at 200mg a day of diaz/diclaz according to the benzo equivalency chart. Good luck getting a doc willing to prescribe you 200mg a day...

How to cut powder

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- Tue, 10 Dec 2019 22:30:01 EST NRgGjCq5 No.147881
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I'm getting a gram of nitrazolam, some clonazolam, I would like to make these into capsules, but don't wanna try to wiegh out 2mg doses individually. I do have a pretty good .001 scale that accurate to about +-3mg but that's annoying. I have a 24 capsule machine I use for Kratom sized 00 gels. Is there a way to mix (cut) the nitrazolam with an inactive substance and make it homogeneous enough to spread into the capsules 24 at a time with the capsule machine? I don't want to make a solutio. Because it's rather hard to dose out a vial at work vs popping a capsule quickly midshift when the first dose comes down. If possible what safe inactive readily available substance can I use to cut the nitro?

Also I'm getting bromazolam liquid in PG but its very concentrated at 10mg a ml. How can I dilute that aswell? I don't have any PG but can simply water or high proof alcohol work so I could get it down to about 2mg a ml or so?

And the clonazolam...that I think I should make a solution of since it's so damn potent. Will alcohol like vodka or everclear work? What should I use instead?

Grooving off .25mg flunitrazolam and thinking bout poppin another.

Thanks
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Stoned chocobo - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 04:50:38 EST NRgGjCq5 No.147930 Reply
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>>147916
pharma etiz is so expensive. I miss the days of 80g powder

And wym evaporation? I was hoping the alcohol would eval leaving the drugs in or atleast ON the candy. Which candy is the best for this task? To be able to take like 5-7 drops of this "solution" and hold it inside it. Maybe get needle and inject gushers? Idk if that would work tho. Do they make liquid of/alcohol proof capsules?
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m - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 17:22:10 EST kLIsmDPR No.148266 Reply
>>147930
I meant that the larger container of solution is sitting there open and exposed while you're trying to use the dropper top, it's slowly evaporating. When it comes to larger amounts >50-100mg, it really starts to add up. I recently used ~700mg of etiz that I ended up receiving somewhat unexpectedly, alongside various custom/"rare" psychedelics such as DPT in particular, and IIRC 4-aco-dmt and ALD-52.

Since I was in a situation where acquiring PG would have been infinitely more inconvenient than in the past, including the fact that I was slightly lorazepam dependent at the time and had run out, I ended up using ethanol, which I'll likely try to never do again. The ethanol I used was 151 proof (75.5%), the highest legally available from a store in my state. I simply bought a 750ml bottle, measured out and removed 50ml, before weighing and dumping in approx. 702.5mg, followed by adding another 2.5ml back into the bottle.

After I used used up perhaps 1/3rd or so of the bottle, I noticed, at least subjectively, that doses didn't seem to be ~99-100% accurate, even when every time I went to measure out a dose, I of course provided adequate ~30-60 second shaking/agitation followed by at least around ~30-60 seconds of gentle botle swirling to allow for any settlement/etiz precipitation to hopefully dissolve again. Even still, it seemed nowhere near as consistent as PG.

Then, by the time there was maybe under 50 or definitely 40% volume remaining, the solution became, subjectively speaking, progressively more concentrated in dosage. At first I thought maybe this coincided with the (only "proven" to be short term, and only in non-humans so far) supposed partial reverse tolerance that begins sometime between around week ~2-6 of dosing, though the study only "proved" said reverse tolerance lasts at least two weeks.

However, as a solid 2 months or more went by, the subjective strength continued to increase, even when factoring in moderate to rapid acute tolerance increase from near daily use. I'm now down to definitely <10% of the original 700ml volume, and it has become both more potent and convincingly less equally distributed.

The only plausible conclusion to make it that evaporation as occurred while the bottle cap has been removed, even if only for short time periods. It adds up.

So definitely stick with PG, though I will say that ~98-99.9% pure powder etiz's solubility in PG at presumably room temp aka 25C/77F is definitely debatable. IIRC, solutions as unconcentrated as just around 4mg/ml have been difficult to fully dissolve in the past, and doing so required a minimum of 2-4 days of swirling, shaking, possibly mixing (I never mixed using a foreign object touching the solution for many reasons), alongside holding the air/liquid tight blue/amber containers under the hottest tap water possibly in order to raise the PG's temperature.

Even then, I recall consistent settling concerns at concentrations as low as maybe ~4-6mg/ml. IIRC, solutions containing 2mg/ml or less were little to no problem, though still often required multiple agitation sessions and ~12-24+ hours of patience.

>tl;dr I meant evaporation from main container while open and exposed to air whilst you are presumably using the dropper top to attempt to dose candies/other objects.

If you are dosing candies/jellies, then yeah use 95% or higher ethanol. I think someone sells ~99% ethanol "for medical purposes" on Amaz0n. Just make sure you make all the powder in one solution container before quickly yet carefully distributing the solution into multiple smaller say, ~4-12+ ~30-60ml amber/blue bottles, again only doing so after being 99%+ confidence it's equally distributed, i.e. patiently waiting ~3+, maybe even 5-7 days, wherein you agitate the solution at least ~1-4x per day, utilizing non-microwave heat methods at least at the beginning.

Then, when dosing, if using ethanol, use a different dropper/syringe etc. dosing tool than the one actually attached to the top of the bottle, so the solution is exposed to the air as little as possible. Does that make sense?

You'll want 190 proof (95%) minimum to dose candies, otherwise they'll likely end up soggy/kinda nasty/possibly leaking. 151 proof (75.5%) definitely wouldn't be suitable.
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Jenny Shittingman - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 18:27:36 EST tJ2pMbQo No.148269 Reply
>>147881
Volumetric dosing with a PG or EA solution is the only way to safely dose benzo powders with the exception of weighing it out into individual doses and then adding an inert filler, but that is going to be a pain in the ass, and you also lose some powder in the process.

Taking 2 etizolams or xans on a trip to amsterdam

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- Tue, 04 Feb 2020 10:09:36 EST rzdv38da No.148237
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so in one month im going to Amsterdam with couple of friends for a weekend, I really want to take like 2 pills of benzos with me me at least,

Right now the ideas i have to get through customs us to put the eitozlams in a tic tac box because the little red pills look similar, i could take that in hand luggage.

What do you think? that last fucking i ned is a criminaal record .

Thanks bruhs
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Reuben Pickville - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 14:38:27 EST 2JL0N6Tp No.148240 Reply
>>148237
thats fine, they dont care about pills.
domestically you can generally fly with ground up weed in pill containers

Baclofen

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- Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:23:24 EST ZhLBcUe/ No.148192
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Any of ya'll fuck with this shit? I just tried 30mg for the first time with 200mg gabapentin and I feel like I'm on soma. It's a gaba A agonist and very mellow. It's so similar to soma that I don't know why this chemical isn't more known. Super chill and just the right amount of muscle relaxation and physical intoxication.
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Nigel Minnerworth - Mon, 03 Feb 2020 22:28:49 EST uUKUbiHH No.148233 Reply
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>>148192
baclofen is better than cyclos, had a script for both for a good while

it's a muscle relaxer which most people think of like ambien, either you find use for it or you don't

great for rls though

getting my monthly 72,000mg of gabapentin tmrw, 800mg each, imo it's far better to take it slow with things like gaba / weed / muscle relaxers & maybe a benzo here & then; if you take it obscenely it gets old quick & it's fairly easy to get onto harder shit when you lose the magic

just speaking from experience
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Lillian Sangerbanks - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 19:32:05 EST uUKUbiHH No.148242 Reply
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>>148241
yeah it sucks they aren't rwd

I love 3g preludes though, so fun to drive. I've had two but drive a forester now, not as fun. Even with fwd it also has 4ws which makes it turn on a fkn dime, get great mileage, and is generally light af

new RC benzos?

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- Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:35:27 EST ITnsh1GK No.147908
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thinking abt going back into the rc bartard fuckzone, any new interesting ones come out? havent tried any for a minute, my biggest grey market benzo binges were with clam and diclaz but theyre boring, never got the supposed clam euphoria.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 16:22:31 EST 6fGmZV4r No.147939 Reply
>>147938
Are we not allowed to source pets here anymore? My trip is a dedication to my first job: sales of kittens and kitten accessories.



>>147937
No sourcing. Ever.

nb - a discussion of cat

PNW

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- Tue, 28 Jan 2020 23:04:52 EST I7h9CuWI No.148201
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If someone was in a town in the pacific north west where drugs are definitely around but was semi- new to town what rout would one go to to find a decent benzo connect? Completely hypothetical. One might have connects to other things but they would be on the psychedelic side of things.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 29 Jan 2020 00:02:46 EST eKhsO2nY No.148202 Reply
>>148201
Try Twin Peaks -- it's on the border of NE border near Canada.

nb as per sourcing rules
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Graham Smallspear - Wed, 29 Jan 2020 00:34:41 EST 86LjTa31 No.148204 Reply
>>148201

Yeah we know you're looking for drugs fuck off with the "lmao purely hypothetical bro I swear"

nb and reported for sourcing fag
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Cedric Pommerfid - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 02:55:04 EST uHoIsa0O No.148220 Reply
>>148201
Ive been deep into the opiate and benzo scene for 14 years where you’re at. If really desperate, go the methadone clinic around dosing time and talk to people. All you’ll find here is garbage bars you can order from anywhere on the DNM.

No sourcing, also; you’re in a shit area for Benz. Enjoyed the garbage pressed “bars”

Pregabalin myoclonus

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- Wed, 25 Dec 2019 14:04:48 EST cPeAbnkX No.147995
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Ffs i took too much again now im twitching like ive for fucking MS and im scared i have a fit


Oh god dont take too much guya
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Isabella Giblingdudge - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 06:29:28 EST 0Dh7Ug8R No.148130 Reply
my doses have been getting up to near 2000mg pretty regularly & every time this happens I think the next one will be a seizure
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Frederick Baggleway - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 20:33:20 EST H40Pc5Vs No.148177 Reply
>>148108
That describes my experience closely enough.

>>148130
Check out the erowid trip reports especially the combinations, there have been seizures on this drug but they all involved polydrug use iirc.
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Betsy Tootham - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 22:05:42 EST SbCM/I7S No.148178 Reply
>>148130>>148130
ive been on pregab for 5 years and 3 years at 1200mg a day.
highest dose is probs around 3000mg i dont get the seizure feeling.
withdrawals are horrid and make me wana chop my dick off :)

Questions about SSRN, Alcohol, and Benzo Cross-tolerance

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- Fri, 24 Jan 2020 16:05:34 EST VSM1fhal No.148165
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To make the story short, I'm currently prescribed aplrolozam for general anxiety (generics but they're real cus scripts from pharmacy), I'm also prescribed an SSRN (effexor) and amitryptyline for insominia/depression. I also drink a fair amount, much less than I used to but, probably once or twice a week to excess.

The other night (not drinking or taking the amitryptyline for insomnia or any other substance) I took 4 of the 1mg tabs (so 2 bars), and I felt almost nothing. It might be worth mentioning I weigh a lot, like the 230lbs range, and have always had a massive tolerance when it comes to booze.

To be fair in the week leading up to the other night I had been taking diazepam from a previous script I held (like 20-30mgs) once or twice.

Is the ssrn, weight, amitrptyline, and baseline booze tolerance having an effect on my tolerance for xanax? I feel like taking more than 2 bars is a bit risky, but given the mild/nil effects from two bars, I'm wondering how to proceed?
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dr. m - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 21:07:00 EST UOwPxq3y No.148170 Reply
>>148165
Effexor is an SNRI btw, not a "SSRN." That's not a thing.

It's at least ~50%+ the booze cross tolerance, and absolutely the valium had a huge impact, as it lasts so long in your system and thus rapes your tolerance disproportionately. Both explain 90%+ of the reason. If you have a natural tolerance to GABA-related drugs of any kind (booze included), then yeah there's always going to be some degree of cross tolerance. I've always felt like benzos raise my booze tolerance more than booze raises my benzo tolerance, if that makes any sense, but they both definitely share incomplete tolerance.

Effexor has 0 direct impact on benzo tolerance, and amitryptyline I'm not as sure on, but since it's a TCA, it has all sorts of effects. It looks like it does raise your tolerance to at least one aspect of booze (the NMDA antagonism), but even then it's only weakly, and that mechanism doesn't exist for benzos.
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Shit Pockman - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 22:13:57 EST VSM1fhal No.148172 Reply
>>148170

Thanks for the info!

Another question, provided I take only my xanax script (which is issued in 1mg tabs for as needed use, but have refills) maybe once or twice a week as prescribed, will the layover tolerance from diazepam eventually fade away? I take the amitrytyline almost every night for sleep unless I plan to drink to use the xanax in larger doses. Just don't want to have to take 3 or 4 bars to feel good lol

Locking away benzos to limit use

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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 14:19:19 EST cPeAbnkX No.148143
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Anyone ever managed to find a good time-lock or something for this purpose?

I need to have restraint
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Phyllis Pallersane - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 02:23:52 EST uYCWFBq/ No.148151 Reply
yeah its called going to the hospital, getting a proper diagnosis(good luck getting ur 6mg xanax a day in there) , and getting spoon fed them on a daily basis by sexy / skanky old nurses while you mack on the chicks and draw ur shitty attempts at cartoons in the cafeteria hall whilst drinking decaf(aaaaalwwaaaysss the decaf) coffee.
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Walter Pickway - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:20:50 EST Ujx9sa7K No.148153 Reply
>>148145
in the end that moment of relaxation is always worth more than not smashing your k-safe
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dr. m - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 21:12:20 EST UOwPxq3y No.148171 Reply
>>148143

If you want the advantages of a timed safe that's not fucking plastic and actually deserves being called a safe (as well as being more affordable), I recommend trying to find generally the smallest met timed safe you can possibly find, like even if it's too small to fit your stash in. Basically all you need is a timed safe big "enough" to fit 1-3 keys in. Then you stash your various shit in normal more affordable safes, lock them with a key, then place the keys in a tiny micro safe that has a time locking mechanism.

the future of drugs

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- Sat, 18 Jan 2020 18:54:42 EST sX6C5NLm No.148117
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sup /benz/
i'm a drug user, have been for almost 12+ years. during that time, i've really enjoyed weed, opiates (namely oxy & dilaudid), 2-FMA, speed, mdma, ketamine, and psychedelics (dmt, lsd, mushrooms)

back around 2010 i started using benzos regularly. eventually i got good insurance and have had a script for 2mg kpins twice a day which i take pretty religiously.

back when r/thebarbarians existed, I scored a nice fat 25g bag of alp powder for ultra-cheap from some chinese lab. I wish i could go back to how easy it was back then.

tl;dr: does anyone have any tips on how to reintegrate into today's DNM's? All of these clearnet sites claiming to sell everything under the sun are obviously bullshit. I also spent some time producing mushrooms and dmt, but after a couple large batches (over 100g dmt total) i started laying low and not spending money. i can't find decent gear outside of college towns or festivals. just wondering how you guys are coping with this because i want to get back into the game and get fucking gonzo again

cheers
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Phyllis Pallersane - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 02:34:48 EST uYCWFBq/ No.148152 Reply
the cheapest i can find alpraz powder 25 grams is 500 dollars usd. :c sounds like you got a good score. id lose that shit in a second.

Generic Ativan 1mg

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!IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 20:58:11 EST SBBJa1uy No.148086
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Any Canadian /benz/ users ever seen generic 1mg Ativan that looks like the one in my pic? People buy them as Ativan and no one complains about it, they taste like Ativan but I'm still suspect. I've never seen someone's legit script in bottle to confirm.
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Jarvis Sendledale - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 00:19:05 EST rCOxVvaA No.148099 Reply
>>148097
>I just don't understand why the 1,0 instead of just a one or even a 1.0 why the comma?
Well French Canadians use commas, so this probably means that drug companies are also looking out for the Québécois, not just the English-speaking. Or maybe this isn't true at all and some dumb leafrog simply made a shitty press/bought one from Europe. I don't know much about the Canadian benzo market and this post is just a eurofag brainstorming, but if I had to guess, I would go for the former, especially if I consider Dr. Katz's post.
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Jarvis Sendledale - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 01:45:31 EST rCOxVvaA No.148100 Reply
>>148097
>>148099
According to a guideline made for Canadian drug companies by the Canadian government ( https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-health-products/reports-publications/medeffect-canada/good-label-package-practices-guide-prescription-drugs-profile/guidance-document.html#a336 ), they should look out for differences such as different decimal separators and try to be bilingual, but the government never said anything about preferring English in cases where only one language can be used.

Although it would be more logical for nation-wide companies to stick with English, there might manufacturers who focus on the French-speaking areas or target them independently from other parts of Canada. My guess is that this is more prevalent with hospitals buying drugs, since they will either want French or English, but this is just pure speculation. If they are from a hospital, that would also explain why you see a lot of people buying the same pills (well, I don't know much about black markets so this is also speculation and you should take it with a grain of salt). Maybe Katz could enlighten us about the medical side of things (or just anyone who is not a drug noob like me)

/enthusiastic rant over

Diazepam Doses

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- Mon, 20 Jan 2020 18:06:21 EST VSM1fhal No.148134
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I see a lot of people here praise Valium as the gold standard of benz, genuinely curious, what are your dosage levels like? And does the long half-life make it more difficult to use with shorter times between using (like 24 hours)?
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dr. m - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:39:48 EST UOwPxq3y No.148155 Reply
>>148154
I couldn't agree more. Personally, for me, valium was lackluster as fuck apart from the muscle relaxation, at least in doses of like 40-50mg or less, whereas at the time of trying valium, the xanax equivalent or even less (like ~1.5mg+) was waaaay more pseudo-recreational.

Perhaps valium does shine, but my doses weren't high enough. Now I've been taking between ~5-15mg of etizolam/day about 3.5x/week though for almost a month, so once the diclaz arrives in a bit over a week, I'll be switching over for hopefully a somewhat short 30 day taper.

Everyone is definitely different though. I still haven't had clonazepam.
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Nathaniel Pegglefud - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:48:56 EST 4HCo1Vnc No.148156 Reply
>>148155
Funny thing is I dont like high dose of diazepam, they're very depressing and without lots of smoking or other drugs its too much of a downer. Higher doses of alpraz is definitely fun, i love the sea legs.
You should try clonazepam, it is quite different. In the usa at least, it is often prescribed as the crazy person benzo, probably for its anticonvulsant effect. In the past I took a lot, but its been many years now. I usually felt like a fun drug trip when I took one. It didnt really have the gentler parts of alpraz diaz etiz. Nice to enjoy once in awhile or to come down from stimulants.
Good luck tapering, I never enjoyed diclaz so I could see how it would be useful for tapering, though I am picky when it comes to benzos.
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Cyril Fiblingmudge - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:07:03 EST VSM1fhal No.148157 Reply
>>148156

what would you consider a strong dose of alprolozam? I weigh a lot (240lbs) and have always hard a naturally high baseline tolerance for most everything especially booze. I see a lot of people here say between 1.5 to 2mgs as a strong dose, but two bars (yes they're real, have scripts) only produces a very mild feelin/slight euphoria in addition to the anxiolytic effect.

I'm also on an SSRN and take amitryptyline so dunno what that matters

Gabapentin and Pregabalin: GABAergic Drugs of Importance

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 06:54:55 EST pDyRe7aP No.147680
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There is a possibility of receiving a script for either in the coming future. Personally, I only have experience with gabapentin, and holy shit, the variance of effects between dosages can really sneak up on you. I have never had the opportunity to take pregabalin, but I've head stories from loving the drug to downright loathing its existence without anyone falling in the middle range.

Who prefers one over the other and why?

Are the drugs better in isolation or taken in combination with other drugs?
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Alice Siffingpire - Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:55:38 EST EX73QyG+ No.147850 Reply
I like gabapentin and lyrica more than I do opiates and I prefer them over actual benzos. The high I get from my experience with these is incredible, both mental and physical.
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William Danningpidge - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:25:32 EST 0Dh7Ug8R No.148090 Reply
interesting thread, i'm doing 1000mg plus of pregabalin regularly, I find it stimulating more than anything, usually helps me read for hours which seems contradictory to the brain fog retardation mentioned here
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 17 Jan 2020 01:20:57 EST 6fGmZV4r No.148107 Reply
>>147792
Shit, I meant to reply 1.5 months back. Major thanks for all of the well stated, in depth information. As of yet I am still more interested in benzos, but I would not replace a benzo with gabapentin or pregabalin. Then again, that's just me.
Based on my experiences I would agree that gabapentin has a certain "dumb" feeling, but I would say the same stupor is probably due to being intolerant of the drug. Or, the fogginess of the drug is something more pronounced for some than others (of course).

>>147850
In my case the idea was surrounding keeping a benzo around in addition to gabapentin, but more likely pregabalin. If I can I'd like to avoid taking much else on top of the shit I'm already prescribed. No sense in pushing myself too close to death.

>>148090
1,000mg pregabalin is relatively high. Is this dosage for pain relief, anxiety, and/or recreation or what exactly? Hmm. The lack of brain fog, in your experience, is good to hear. Some people think opiates or benzos are too cloudy and put them into a stupor. Gotta love individuality and subjective drug reactions.
A lot of people are prescribed gabapentin or pregabalin in North America. Both drugs are crazy popular. People seem a bit on the fence about the fogginess. Alleged, pregabalin is less sedating than gabapentin. Any merit to this?

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