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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Acepromazine

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- Wed, 17 Jul 2019 01:06:20 EST 86bjiiz4 No.146562
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To keep it short, I have some left over Acepromazine and wondering what effects could be achieved from it. I've read reports from it could knock you on your ass tranquilize you to it's basically worthless old antipsychotic. Which is it? Thanks /benz/
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Fucking Clennerhood - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:09:54 EST evyciLcc No.146573 Reply
>>146562
I took thorazine once and serequel like once as well. The literal worst feeling after I woke up...like I was in the middle of a massive come down. Shit was HORRIBLE. And I slept fucking forever (like 2-3 days or some retarded shit. God I was so thirsty when I woke up)
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Charles Winningchid - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:08:26 EST 86bjiiz4 No.146582 Reply
>>146573

I just took one acepromazine and had your experience almost to a T. Absolute shit tier drug.
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Phyllis Honeylock - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 06:24:38 EST Z5Gz7Z9h No.146604 Reply
>>146562
It was first used as anti-psychotic. It is mainly used as an animal tranquilizer, get your chew bone ready. Really, if it is not prescribed, don't take anti-psychotic drugs.

There are anti-depressants that will make you sleep well and may have very vivid intense realistic, even fantastic dreams that I would say could be used for recreational use. And sleep. I know one antidepressant that was prescribed
for sleep. Can sleep for 8 hours like clockwork and wake up feeling good.. The effects of the dreams is long over, which had took over nightmares. Still take
it.
Yea, anti-psychotics are bad news unless you need them. They will have zero rec value and quite the opposite.

eps

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- Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:53:50 EST qmKSSjPj No.146465
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>be me
>be physically addicted to benzos for a few months
>have a couple seizures while tapering
>think seizures were from withdrawals
>be over a year later
>haven't done any benzos and don't drink
>have another seizure
>I wasn't having withdrawal induced seizures, I have just have epilepsy
>mfw
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Jack Drunnerstock - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 20:44:56 EST CQ8cFDHL No.146529 Reply
>>146465
they might try and give you some bullshit like kepra but try and get klonopin for your epilepsy
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Dundun - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:10:24 EST kq0WDdvT No.146597 Reply
>>146465
Your first seizure could have caused epilepsy or so I've read. I've also had one.

Benzo Design

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- Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:52:04 EST FBN91bNM No.145494
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I cant find the thread and i dont know how factual it was, but it was some guy listing the functional groups that could be attached the various positions on the benzodiazepine ring/structure and their general effects

Obviously the triazolo substitution increases potency and recreation effects in most scenarios and with most users

This guy also said that flourine, chlorine, and bromine (from greatest to least) in the R2 and R7 positions increased the potency by weight of the benzo, which makes sense (flunitrazolam, clonazolam, flubromazolam)

He also said that the nitrogen with oxygen group generally increased the recreational value, not sure how that holds up but it makes sense to me (clonazolam, clonazepam, and flunitrazolam all widely considered to be pretty euphoric)

My questions are how does the replacing one of the benzene ring with a thieno ring effect a benzo (like etizolam)? and how does replacing the other (bottom? im not a chemist) benzene ring with a 2-pyridine ring (like pyrazolam) effect the the experience?

>what do you think (if this is even possible) a thienodiazepine like the pic i created would be like? completely shit? or maybe worth it?
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Designer - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:37:02 EST lleeM5m9 No.146537 Reply
>>146213 BTW EP Patent application Journal 6751 GB1813962.6 covers pyrazolam, pynazolam & pyeyzolam. Since I'm not David Nutt, it's pretty clear who I am.
>>146213
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dr. m - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:47:00 EST ehbFaOGo No.146543 Reply
>>146537
Can you please make a thread explaining to noobs exactly what each a1, a2, etc. activity does in terms of predicting the different effects from a benzo? Also teach some basic chemistry for people who may have only taken high school chem like 20 years ago. Thanks.

BWB: SON OF THE BWB

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- Mon, 13 Aug 2018 22:59:28 EST VPU/mRFL No.142699
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I just realized the current one isn't bumping anymore

I GUESS I MUST STEP UP TO THE CHALLENGE.

2mg Clonazepam and 2 jays of Sour Diesel right now. Just got my old security deposit from my old place in ATL so I can pay rent early AND buy some extra weed. Lovin' life right now.
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dr. m - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:41:10 EST ehbFaOGo No.146542 Reply
>>146539

For some of us, the majority of that post wasn't an unknown foreign language, so frankly you can fuck off yourself.
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Caroline Bardwater - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:23:48 EST 86bjiiz4 No.146544 Reply
>>146542

For all of us, he bumped a dead thread because he's a fucking retard and apparently you were too stupid to notice.
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dr. m - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 11:10:01 EST ehbFaOGo No.146554 Reply
>>146544
I wasn't stupid, just didnt realize it was an old BWB. I reported the thread and suggested it be locked. Bear in mind your responded with a grand total of two words, so I didn't have much to go off of.

NB

Zopiclone

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- Sun, 07 Jul 2019 17:42:55 EST 8IzA/ch7 No.146437
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What efect does zopiclone? I am about to buy ten 7.5 pills of that by a very reliable seller but i don't know if the efects wroth it, the only i know is what are for sleeping and are z-drugs
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Edwin Gissleridge - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 00:44:51 EST fhFKk0Cb No.146442 Reply
>>146440
ohh thanks anon, so you think is worthless buy 10 pills if i am new in benzodiazepines
and z-drugs?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 04:02:14 EST I6YS7H0F No.146451 Reply
>>146442
I wouldn’t say buying the pills would be worthless, but zopiclone is not usually a go-to benzo for someone without much experience. Again, just because the drug is not very popular is not a bad thing.
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Nell Caddlebury - Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:52:30 EST qO5gpdBZ No.146534 Reply
>>146437
Zopiclone sucks, enjoy mediocre effects and a nasty metallic taste in your mouth like robot ejacked some hate-paste onto your tongue.

Self-Tapering

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- Mon, 08 Jul 2019 08:38:26 EST jKMricRG No.146445
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Hey /benz/, question of curiosity and moreso, differing opinions and input besides the doc.
I've been on a rather small amount of Klonopin for 2 years almost , Only 0.5mg.
I used to abuse them, went down to the actual script, 1 as needed, and now I've began cutting them up into quarters.
If I were to stop taking them suddenly after about 3 months of doing this, would I be okay? What symptoms should I expect? Is it more mental than it is physical at this amount?
TLDR;
>0.5mg Klonopin, cut into 1/4's
>3 months of this
>What should I expect once I stop taking them

I haven't taken one in about 3 days and I've only noticed cold hands/feet along with a very persistent runny nose.
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George Chiffingdock - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:51:32 EST gfeF25A/ No.146521 Reply
>>146458
Yeah taking 0.25mg a day for 3 months as you have and now completely taking nothing is not what's making you get a runny nose. Its psychological if anything, your mind fucking with you.

Good job OP! Benzos are a bitch to get clean from. Luckily for me I went complete cold Turkey and got clean. Only symptom i had was heightened sense of smell which sucked. I was taking 3-4mg a day for a long time. I was really fortunate for not having ended up in the hospital from seizures due to cold turkeying.
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Phyllis Dabblespear - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 08:58:52 EST Ms//cbGk No.146523 Reply
>>146521
OP Here, I've definitely noticed the increase in heightened-sensory shit,
I smell the dust even it seems, blowing through where I live.
Food tastes either extremely "punchy", like chocolate tasting very VERY cocoa-y. Or it tastes like next to nothing.
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Phyllis Dabblespear - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 09:02:45 EST Ms//cbGk No.146524 Reply
>>146523

I just realized I should probably post this aspect as well for further inquiry,
I've had HPPD since I was about 18, it's still there apparently.
IIRC, doesn't Klonopin/Benz suppress HPPD?
I mainly have visual effects, sometimes the walls will breathe if I stare at em long enough, or if I'm tired enough.

Do I just deal with the HPPD again? It wasn't an issue prior or now, it's just moreso overwhelming almost with all the other stimuli

benzo brain damage?

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- Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:51:52 EST S0SI5Tf1 No.146326
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So I know next to nothing about pharmacology, which is why I'm asking the following: are benzos neurotoxic like amphetamines and alcohol are?
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Graham Fozzlestedge - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 02:54:03 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146502 Reply
>>146363
Imagine being this enthusiastic you think you know better than this dude and/or his doctor from one post. LOL
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Graham Fozzlestedge - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 02:55:58 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146503 Reply
>>146364
I take them as needed for panic attacks. Dude is a completely shit head.

.5mg klonopin.
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Simon Sengerdale - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:30:45 EST DqJY92Jw No.146504 Reply
>>146380
Not much to say. At times you can get into the groove of what you are trying to accomplish. Not by taking 4 at once. Ones personality may change enough to maybe be noticeable enough. But Just because a scrips says to take 3 4 times a day, doesn't mean you have to take 3 4 times a day. Can even skip a few days, with taking very minimal amounts and still get things done very well. One should be able to tell when it is getting likely kinda getting on negative side as opposed to being maybe more beneficial. Like, no need to wake right up and take 2 mgs
of clonazepam. For me, xanax is like, let's screw stuff up, or get nothing done that requires thinking and work or coordination. I never asked for it, after being prescribed it as a temporary fill. Even when I could have gotten it easily enough.

List your daily usage or cocktail.

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- Fri, 12 Jul 2019 02:32:54 EST wcGkxiic No.146472
File: 1562913174526.jpg -(1773728B / 1.69MB, 1960x4032) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. List your daily usage or cocktail.
For me 400mg pregabalin, 2mg flualprazolam 2mg etizolam.
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Doris Debberstit - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 02:45:03 EST evyciLcc No.146501 Reply
>>146472
Seeing that bag reminds me of the glory RC days. Thank OP.
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Hannah Nicklehood - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 11:48:55 EST jEIIeeuq No.146513 Reply
>>146472
About 1mg of Clonazolam and up to 3g Phenibut. Sometimes 1-4 Beers and lots of coffee. But don't we have the bwb for this? Nb.

Estazolam(ProSom) the rarest benzo that is presribed.

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- Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:01:15 EST O6ePcd2d No.146492
File: 1562994075079.jpg -(299328B / 292.31KB, 780x574) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Estazolam(ProSom) the rarest benzo that is presribed.
Estasolam also know as Desmethylalprazolam
And look what i got.
I know it's the unicorn of RX benzos (twas the last benzo approved by the FDA in 96 or 97 before z drugs took over) and I got #60 2mg ones for some time,
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Hedda Surrysig - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 06:26:30 EST 86bjiiz4 No.146506 Reply
Christ stop bumping your thread every 5 fucking minutes

Tramadol

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- Thu, 04 Jul 2019 17:30:18 EST +4BaEvmB No.146373
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Tips for my first tramadol experience? I going to buy it in a 10 ml jar
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dr. m - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:58:12 EST ehbFaOGo No.146454 Reply
>>146405

Close but not quite right.

The large dose should always be taken at the end. So NOT 100 50 50 50...best way is 50 50 50 100.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:11:18 EST t8lReBf3 No.146455 Reply
>>146454
Very true and thanks for the assist.
Due to blood plasma concentration, yes. Most of the time I actually take the highest dosage at the end rather than the beginning if I’m trying to get the most out of the drug. Staggering at all should discussed, but taking the higher/highest dosage at the end is the best means.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:12:53 EST t8lReBf3 No.146456 Reply
>>146420
I do believe two hours is the window to stay in. 1.5 hours was more so a dosage example rather than best practice.

nb

Questions about GHB

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- Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:16:36 EST ET7aHuVe No.146152
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I would like to hear some experiences from those who used GHB at least a few times.

FIrst: How fiendish it is? Is there a pressure to compulsively redose? I have a problem with benzos that i start with a reasonable dose, then when it kicks in, i "decide" that i take more, then more until i take a whole bottle in a few hours and end up blackout. This would be very dangerous on GHB or even potentially fatal.

Second: Is there that hangover/"instaWD" that comes with alcohol? I talk about that glutamate spike thing that makes you feel like shit the next morning. i know that ghb half life is short, more compareable to alcohol than a tipical benzo.

Third: Is there a "satisfaction" feeling with it? I never get that on benzos, i enjoy them very much but always want to get higher and higher despite i know good and well that it won't get me high, just knock me out into blackout. i've heard ghb is among the most euphoric downers, i wondered if it makes you feel like "everything is great right now, i don't need to use any more drugs at the moment, just chill and enjoy". That would be great.

Fourth: Is there a delusion of soberity? That makes me do all kinds of irresponsible things that i deeply regret the next day. If it would have a much lower degree of that, that would be great.

Thanks for the replies.
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Martha Wisslelirk - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:02:06 EST 1FJ95ULm No.146233 Reply
>>146232
Listen to this poster, OP. I have witnessed several people overdose on GHB and they were all quite experienced users. Dosing is tricky.

Where I live we call it "our PCP" because plenty of people have ended up walking the streets naked, grunting like a moose and trying to fuck people's mailboxes.
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Molly Blorrydadging - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 18:09:39 EST eAUPFGkX No.146356 Reply
>>146152
>>146210
>>146157
>>146232
>>146233

Thank you.

>plenty of people have ended up walking the streets naked, grunting like a moose and trying to fuck people's mailboxes.

lol this sounds so fucking hillarous if it happens to someone else but it would be so fucking bad if i would end up in the TV for acting out naked and full retarded on the streets.

What exactly is tricky about dosing? The redosing and the curve of intoxication level? Is the actual concentrartion of ghb salt in the liquid known usually? It would be bad if it was something like coke that percentage can vary 3-4-fold.
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Fanny Ninkinpig - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 14:52:26 EST JDUvVX+G No.146430 Reply
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>>146356
ghb is best drug tier. its hard to dose because it goes from mild effects to thats not bad to omg bets euphoria ever to blackout/zzz, and between tolerance, weight and stuff its very hard to know what will get you where. its also very easy to get hooked because the euphoria is pretty consistent.
Its not usually a quality issue, since ghb/gbl is really cheap, just a problem of moving a ton of liquid. coke is much easier to dose

Busbar = Garbage right?

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- Thu, 27 Jun 2019 00:20:15 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146257
File: 12.jpg -(80085B / 78.21KB, 666x69) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Busbar = Garbage right?
Hey so I just got Rx'ed Busbar and Clonazepam. I shouldn't even both fucking trying to Busbar right? Like IIRC that shit is garbage...(I got them once as bars years ago...blame the GF for not checking the pills on her phone as deal was going down.)

Prolly just say the shit sucks and get Vistiril and Klonopin.

Discuss
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Fanny Ninkinpig - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:58:02 EST JDUvVX+G No.146423 Reply
get the last laugh by posting the video in /sa/ then linking to that post in this thread. white knights are so painfully embarrassing.
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Caroline Bliblingsag - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 23:36:22 EST iLlEpcOH No.146425 Reply
>>146423
I mean I personally don't give a fuck but idk how it's white knighting to not want porn on a sfw board i think that's why the pic got deleted, idk i'm too faded to read through the thread and i really don't care that much too, not even gonna touch on what a spergy insult white knight w/e you do you

Benz get tips.

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- Wed, 05 Jun 2019 22:42:25 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146035
File: 1559788945983.jpg -(21688B / 21.18KB, 480x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Benz get tips.
Trying to get benzo's but doctor keep saying dumb shit like "its all in ur head"

despite me having such bad anxiety I get pale as shit and my heart is about to literally explode. bp through the roof too (180/120).

any tips?

pics related, dumb ass nurse stabbed me when I was at the ER last for anxiety. But note how PALE I am in the first screen shot (still having anxiety attack) versus the other (normal). I look like a fucking ghost.
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Walter Hazzlefure - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 00:54:44 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146297 Reply
>>146092
i get drug tested frequently, hence why it has to be legit.
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:38:15 EST ehbFaOGo No.146385 Reply
>>146035

Buy etizolam. It makes the regular cheap panel dip tests pop hot within 2-5 days of use, but if you insist they send it to have lab analysis and threaten legal action if they intend to fire you without doing so, they'll most likely send it to a lab. Most labs don't check for etizolam still, though it has become more common.

Another option to my knowledge is pyrazolam, but I don't know for sure it won't pop hot. Clonazolam doesn't pop hot but it's not safe for usage in any dose whatsoever IMO when taken more than once a month and in doses above 500ug-1mg tops during that single monthly use. Even that is total speculation. All I know is multi week dosing of low doses like even 60-150ug causes much worse negative benzo side effects than the equivalent counterparts.
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William Crallershaw - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:55:17 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146388 Reply
>>146385
thank you. I got klonopin finally, and im drug tested by probation not for a job.

Tapering while on probation?

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- Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:54:54 EST JtaTLcg6 No.146330
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So a friend of mine is tapering off of Alprazolam, but I suggested they try Diclazepam. Thing is: they're on probation. If given a random drug test, will they be able to differentiate the benzos based on mass spec? They're aware of the Alprazolam, but I don't want then to risk getting in trouble for presence of a different benzo--that is, if they go beyond a basic drug assay and send it to a lab for further scrutiny.

Thx, y'all! 💙
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:11:21 EST ehbFaOGo No.146381 Reply
>>146338
She's best off buying Xanax from a legit patient who has their own script, or buying tons of differently sourced bars and having someone else sample a quarter bar or each one until you find bars with the same ass-bitter taste as Xanax. That doesn't prove its Xanax (could be flualprazolam) or exclude the possibility its Xanax combined with another benzo (any tasteless benzo), but at least they're increasing their chances of consuming real Xanax to start with. The only problem is no street bar is the same dose...most are 3-5mg instead of 2mg from what I've read and heard. Some are roughly 2mg, some are much less than 2mg, and some can be completely bunk.
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:13:41 EST ehbFaOGo No.146382 Reply
>>146338
Also PAWS isn't the same thing as acute withdrawal. Acute withdrawal can be serious and possibly fatal. It's not safe. What's their daily dose and quantity left, and history of usage (what doses and for how long)? What's her current/past history with alcohol use, or any ambien/other sleeping pills?

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