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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated March 20)
diazepam vs. diclazepam by Martha Hunderfatch - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 19:04:56 EST ID:G4gm3nOg No.144407 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm not exactly a frequent user of /benz/ more use it for when I fly or am coming down off of certain drugs. I was going to order a few tablets of etizolam just to have a stash and I saw the site I was ordering from also sold diclazepam. Ive been told that they are very similar to regular valium, which was always a fan of whenever I was able to get a hold of some. I was just going to ask the pros over here on /benz/ to see if there was any truth to their comparison. Sorry if this is a common question but I searched back a few pages and didn't see a thread on this topic.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 21:12:18 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Diazepam and diclazepam are not really comparable. Diclazepam is closest to lorazepam (Ativan). Too, one of the active metabolites in diclazepam is lorazepam. A lot of websites will report that etizolam is similar to diazepam, but that’s not really accurate compared to other benzos/thienodiazepines that share more similarities.
William Gockleman - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:49:39 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.144619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Diazepam and diclazepam are similar in that both have a long half life and are great for tapering.

By feel diclazepam is basically like lorazepam that lasts forever. If you're like me and hate lorazepam you'll hate diclazepam too.

Diazepam on the other hand feels extremely nice (obviously that's subjective) imo the nicest commonly scripted benzo. Also despite the long half life the effects don't last very long.

Tbh no rc benzo feels close to diazepam, sorry.

Etizolam feels very nice too but the feeling isn't very close to any other common benzo.

Lucid nightmares on lorazepam by Archie Clibberway - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 10:34:07 EST ID:C9Wzleb9 No.144616 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just started taking Ativan for panic attacks and last night I doubled up to 2mg because I wanted to see what it would do. I walked like I was drunk without the other feelings. The one thing I noticed is I had verrrry vivid nightmares.
Has anyone else had this?

Flualprazolam Experiences by Shitting Dullerchud - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 01:07:39 EST ID:qEe6xPe1 No.144550 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I ordered a flualprazolam .5mg x 30ml solution to experiment with. I've heard conflicting reports on this chem - most either love it or hate it. Anyone here have any experience with it, and what benzo can it be most similar to?
Angus Clussleshit - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 03:44:36 EST ID:qEe6xPe1 No.144600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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OP here with an update.

Solution came in today. I've taken around 2mg and it feels like the anxiolytic part of Xanax, but with much much more muscle relaxation. Also much more hypnotic.

Effects length seem to be 2x-3x longer than alprazolam. Overall, it's a decent RC benzo that's worth a try.
David Clallerpore - Tue, 04 Dec 2018 05:06:11 EST ID:i62fV9Ck No.144601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watch out for intense tolerance increase OP. Only thing I've really heard about this chemical.

dog doctor shopping by George Moggleshit - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 02:27:00 EST ID:pUp9jzcT No.144522 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anyone used their dog to get xanax? I read that dogs can be prescribed it so i wonder if it will be easier to get my dog xanax than myself xanax?
Ebenezer Subberford - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 02:53:37 EST ID:NVx4SelS No.144523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's easier for you to get a script yourself. Dogs are prescribed low doses, anywhere from 0.01 mg to 0.05 mg per pound so you aren't going to get enough to make it worth it.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 04:00:43 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP - you’re better off getting a script for yourself. Your animal is NOT going to get 2mg bars or even 1mg footballs of alprazolam. That just, well, doesn’t usually happen.
Most people (i.e. humans) can attain a 0.5mg alprazolam prescription for panic disorder. Which, I consider not only to be average but a relatively moderate dosage for acute panic disorder without tolerance.
Animals though? -even 0.5mg is rather high. An animal would likely be prescribed 0.125mg to 0.25mg alprazolam at most.

I think that the lowest prescribed dosage is 0.125mg. The lowest most people are scripted is 0.25mg.
Personally, even with friends and colleagues with “dog Xanax” they still have a script that is equivalent to what a human would take but at a much, much lower dosage.
Sidney Claddleville - Mon, 03 Dec 2018 11:20:21 EST ID:mW6P1zh1 No.144592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dawg, my boys (RIP) aunt had a german shepherd that was prescribed fucking bars. I would never have believed it if I hadnt seen a bottle that said "Dog's Name (K9) " and "Alprazolam 2mg". The bars were kinds i never saw before. It looked like a regular white bar, but it had a line in each of the two squares in the middle. Toook the fuck out of them. Combined with cocaine and im sure heroin, made some bad choices. Try to forget about it lol.

tolerance by Phoebe Drendlebury - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 01:46:20 EST ID:J1Pa/RDl No.144562 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>took 2 5mg ambiens
>didn't feel shit

This shit used to knock me out

But I guess ambien is a weak benzo

>inb4 you're not suppose to take it every night

Jenny Fanningtan - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 04:25:25 EST ID:MNg/6tz7 No.144563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I used to be able to get high from 10mg of Diaz, now it’s times 5 or something. Whoops.
Hugh Corryforth - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 04:23:04 EST ID:TAajfbTu No.144578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ambien never made me tired, relaxed a little. What it does do it make it to when you lay down in bed, you go right to sleep without your mind racing about some bullshit.

Cool by Cedric Crepperwire - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 19:54:30 EST ID:QXOjeYh5 No.144572 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Got a .25 kpin script daily.
Just ate 6.6mg etiz
4.4 bromazolam
And like 3 clonazolam, forgot th dosage

I've OD on bulk a lot before so I have tolerance. But feeling good for now. Btw took it in a span of a few hours.

TBH it's what I needed In life.
PS I still did hella productive shit earlier.
Cyril Tillingridge - Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:44:46 EST ID:NVx4SelS No.144573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cool, this is more of a BWB post

Combo Combo by Fucking Cettingbanks - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:08:38 EST ID:n9DLcHOJ No.144544 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Check this out: 2mg xanax, 600mg pregabalin, 600mg codeine and 150mg trazodone. I feel like a god! First, the xanax hits like a train because of the pregabalin. I tried the trazodone and it feels fantastic making me sleepy and to nod off hard. The codeine, well, you know what it does. This combo is not for an amateur, I have a lot of experience with these drugs. Adding trazodone sounds stupid but it goes very well with the rest. Fuck me, this feels fantastic!
Fucking Cettingbanks - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:16:35 EST ID:n9DLcHOJ No.144546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Recently I fell in love with nitrazepam, powerful euphoria. I think that now it's my favourite benzo, i like it more than xanax.
Fucking Senningfotch - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 01:26:30 EST ID:kUv4Zlj6 No.144576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
serene story eugine

Tolerance by Cornelius Homblefield - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 20:24:35 EST ID:wFyVnL8Q No.144432 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, I know this question has probs been asked over 100000 times here but here we go.

On Friday i went over to a buddies place, picked up 3 bars and ate .25, then we said fuck it and ate another .25, then we blacked out. My friends roommate said we were looking around the house at like 2am thinking we lost the other bars so my buddy bought another one. It wasn't until the next morning that we discovered that we did in fact eat the other bar which took us to 4mg each that night. The next day i bought some more just cause i've read about withdrawals and took 2mg. Passed the fuck out playing WoW.

SO i bought some more, I have 3 2mg bars and im wondering if i took like .25 would i feel anything if i smoked some weed with it? Should i take more? I dont wanna be doing xannax everyday but i've never really used this stuff before and im curious to know about tolerance.
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lol - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 10:34:30 EST ID:BqpvRW4y No.144471 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You aren't gonna have withdrawl from just a week man, if you try to taper you're just gonna mame it worse
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 15:31:21 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Again, re-read my initial reply >>144439

Using a benzo daily for 6 days, particularly alprazolam, does NOT usually necessitate any sort of taper. The reality is that trying to taper wlll only prolong the possibility of physical addiction.

>Should I just face the rebound stuff
Yes, as a taper is not needed after 6 days of daily administration of alprazolam. Rebound anxiety sucks, but you're better off stopping now than attempting a taper that may very well just make everything worse.

Spot on.
Molly Blushsack - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 06:34:17 EST ID:wFyVnL8Q No.144539 Ignore Report Quick Reply

heya, so ive been off xanax for a week now, had some super shitty withdrawls, if i take like 1mg will i have a tolerance anymore? will the come down/after effects be as bad?

How fucked am i by Alice Fackleman - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 22:44:26 EST ID:HgFKPYJ+ No.144319 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok so I know at therapeutic doses it takes a while for physical dependency to take effect. But I've been doing monsterous does for...... Almost two weeks? I honestly don't know. Maybe a day or two in there with nothing. But I've been doing 10+ Xanax bars a day. Two days ago I ate 50 fucking bars in the span of 48 hours. Today I'm broke and have nothing. I've been really lethargic and lazy and depressed all day but that's not unusual. I've just felt odd. Can't get out of bed, I just don't want to. Last time I did anything was yesterday at like 4pm when I ate my last 7 and a half bars and felt nothing. I know I'm in for some psychological withdrawal that's a given, and I can handle that. My question is, am I gonna need the hospital tomorrow? Pic related
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Ernest Washmatch - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 16:21:43 EST ID:V3hYKg3h No.144487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I second this, definitely try to find something with a longer half-life if possible, tapering with alprazolam or any short acting drug is probably gonna suck.
Frederick Chommertig - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:13:55 EST ID:T/l3OjM+ No.144530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Update: I'm down 4 bars a day from 15-20 and I'm not feeling amazing but not shitty either. I think I might be able to do this. I have like 30 or 40 1m pills left, tomorrow I'm gonna start taking smallest amounts possible
Emma Dunkincocke - Thu, 29 Nov 2018 05:11:28 EST ID:iC/U3Hci No.144535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know shit about benzos man but it sounds like you've come way down already. Stay safe and take it easy man. Goodluck

Supplementing/potenating a benzo prescription by Ernest Washmatch - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 00:37:32 EST ID:V3hYKg3h No.144480 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are some legal or clear-net grey market substances that will compliment my script? Looking for things that will potentate benzos, could be used for cycling, or just boosting my drug collection in general. Are there any rc benzos that won’t completely fuck up my tolerance if used sparingly?
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dr. m - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 07:52:54 EST ID:bfpDLWyJ No.144518 Ignore Report Quick Reply

RIP on that 100% white wgfj. No joke the new blend that's like 50% white 50% red only seems maybe 60-70% as effective as the old shit. Ruby red does work too, but is way way way less effective.

Smaller local chain stores (think Publix, Trader Joe's, Food Lion, etc.) Often still have the white-only stuff. I usually buy several of the large bottles because they last forever.

OP, the best way to get use out of wgfj isnt to actually say down it all before using opi or benz.

I've read several reports in tiny scientific journals a while back about the impacts of wgfj on meds.

Basically, two out of three reports overwhelmingly found dosing it repeatedly day after day was the most important factor, followed by consuming the wgfj relatively spaced out timeline wise (so, say you drink a minimal "dose" every ~4-8hr instead of one large dose once a day).

Tl;dr, study #1 and #2 saw inhibition rates equal to suspected rates of similar natures by consuming as little as 200ml WGFJ once daily in the morning, 150ml daily total consumed as 75ml TWICE/day aka every 12 hours, or 100ml daily total consumed as three 33ml doses every 8 hours.

In addition, the compounding effects of increase enzyme inhibition were generally reached in terms of capped inhibition in as little as 60-72hr when consuming the 200ml daily total, 100ml 2x/day.
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dr. m - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:02:44 EST ID:bfpDLWyJ No.144519 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Oh fuck guys, we forgot...

OP etizolam supposedly raises tolerance more slowly than say alprazolam, diazepam, and lorazepam. Still, if you take it daily, it eint matter.
Angus Duzzlewedge - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:33:37 EST ID:jBd6WUSA No.144533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here: thank you for the responses, I’d heard about grapefruit juice potenating opiates but was not aware they did the same for benzos, and I’d actually never heard of cimetidine, so that is new information to me and appreciated.


That’s interesting, in my (anecdotal) experience the slow onset drugs with longer half-lives tend to build tolerance slower than the fast acting, short half-life ones, etizolam is definitely already on my shopping list though lol.

Bump while not quite yet benzed by Wesley Sunderlure - Mon, 26 Nov 2018 01:21:24 EST ID:rpBSGGiO No.144507 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The 2 day break is about to end, but not yet!

Probably taking one before work tomorrow, but it's nice to still be part of the /benz/ community even on those off days. I've been good about spacing doses 2 days or more apart and I'm sure a lot of you are as well, if not more.

How long do you wait between doses?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 26 Nov 2018 02:21:25 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly, it really depends. The most that anyone should dose a benzos is 1-2x/week. Personally, I will normally take 10mg diazepam 1-2x/day rougly 3-4x/week. Which, this is a LOT more than I would like and much heavier than my 1mg 3x/day clonazepam script from years ago.
I take alprazolam 0.5mg PRN usually 2-3x/week MAX, but I am allotted 0.5mg 4x/day as needed.
Eliza Drushnatch - Mon, 26 Nov 2018 02:33:49 EST ID:NVx4SelS No.144509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm able to go about 48 hours between dosing. After that I get irritable and anxious and hate everything. I'm happy with the 48 hours because I used to take benzos daily for over 10 years.

NNADIS # by Ian Brombledale - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:47:37 EST ID:DnO6hkYA No.144473 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am a US citizen who is sick and tired of getting fake pressed bars who is unable to effectively get a script of SOME kind of benzo which I could really need because of the fact that I live in FL.(crackdowns all over)

I was considering ordering some Clam, diclaz, or flualp from a the big chinese vendor that I am sure you are all aware of. My question is, by ordering an RC benzo, does that put me at risk acquiring a NNADIS numberin some sort of DEA database, or is that less of a problem with international vendors? Honestly having my name on a list like that is the only real thing that has stopped me from ordering some.

A buddy of mine used to order GBL, which is illegal under the FAA and he never had any problems doing so. Considering that flualp and the like are not covered under the FAA act, and the vendor is not stateside and therefore not under the jurisdiction of the DEA, would you guys considering ordering an RC benzo from China as relatively safe? I mean, I ordered kratom online many times which leads me to believe I already have a NNADIS number as it is. Can someone please help shed some light on this subject? I am sorry if this thread has appeared multiple times, but circlejerk and the search function on 420chan didn't really give me any straightforward answers.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
Jack Famblewud - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:01:04 EST ID:Wa8UghIx No.144474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tht poic started out funny but ended soddadded

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