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- Wed, 03 Jul 2019 19:08:25 EST iAA0PAwq No.146357
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I've been benzo free 8 years after a 8 month taper from xanax.
Would I fuck myself up if I got drunk?

Shortish acting benzo of choice?

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- Thu, 27 Jun 2019 04:08:35 EST evddYoO7 No.146262
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I think alprazolam or temazepam are my choice. Really wish I could get midazolam. I'm stuck with etizolam. Afraid to ask my sub doctor for another benzo in addition to diaz and zolipidem. I don't abuse them, just take tiny doses. Are there any other short acting benzos that are worth discussing? (save triazolam)
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 17:47:58 EST I6YS7H0F No.146327 Reply
>It was a bottle like pic related
Actually, if someone is receiving the exact amount of a medication in a typical Rx bottle that would be on the shelf it is not uncommon to receive the shelf bottle rather than an orange/amber bottle. Instead, one would receive the bottle with the original labeling as well as their Rx info attached to the bottle. This happened to my brother several times due to having a #100 x 0.5mg clonazepam script. The bottles are kinda cool to look at, but mostly waste space. Unless someone is hellbound on collecting shit it isn't much different than receiving a traditional script bottle.

Yup. I remember the post about someone getting their denied their clonazepam prescription substituted by their pharmacist for lorazepam. To my knowledge this is illegal. Yes, a doctor can write brand permissible change and certain pharmacies can deny an individual or refuse to give them a generic manufacturer that is not in their normal stock, but they can't just give a completely different drug in the same class.

Example: Pharmacist notices a client/patient has a script for hydromorphine, but substitutes a different opioid such a codeine/tramadol/hydrocodone/oxycodone because it is "less addictive." Would this ever ethically and legally happen without doctor approval? i would think not!
Charlotte Cacklepotch - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 06:35:40 EST zZTNO9C9 No.146347 Reply
I think you mean hydromorphone, nor hydromorphine.
However if they swapped my prescribed codeine or tramadol for oxy or morphinr I wouldn't mind that at all. Nb
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 21:41:40 EST I6YS7H0F No.146353 Reply
Oddly, it was an autocorrect mistake. Hydromorphone and oxymorphone are heavy as fuck. I wasn’t a fan of oxymorphone and still have yet to take

My point was having a heavier script replaced with a less potent opioid.

nb for opioid talk

I wish for death

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- Thu, 13 Jun 2019 20:50:29 EST 86LjTa31 No.146118
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I'm benzo dependant, I need them to not have a fucking meltdown from anxiety everyday but they don't really do anything for the really bad days (most days). I have treatment resistant major depressive disorder, general anxiety disorder and panic disorder. I can't hold a job because I get so fucking anxious and stressed out no matter how calming the environment is. I'm constantly a nervous fucking wreck. My doctor won't prescribe me Xanax for whatever reason which I know will help. No antidepressants help. I'm sick of this fucking life. I made so many mistakes and have so many regrets and I just want to die. I have a gun but I'm too pussy to do it. Please convince me to /benz/. I'm 22 and stagnant in this life and I can barely fucking stand it anymore. The smallest things set me off. I want off this ride.
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dr. m - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:49:22 EST ehbFaOGo No.146242 Reply

This right here. I know RC benzos are moderately more difficult to obtain domestically via clearnet compared to just 2 years ago, and their overall market price has definitely increased, but this is still the optimal choice.

Etizolam is superior to Xanax in almost every way, and if it's not superior in one aspect, it's likely more of a preference issue (e.g. Xanax is more sedating so it's better than etizolam for sleep, yet if you want a benzo that leaves you functioning during the day, then etizolam is superior).

Unfortunately, etizolam is a Schedule I substance in my state these days, which is being idiotic because all the other stronger, more dangerous RCs got a free pass. Personally I wouldn't bother with a S1 benzo, might as well buy S4 benzos.

Luckily I came back from SE Asia with a decent amount of both Xanax and Valium, and I rarely use it now anyways, and I stopped what I consider recreational use (2x therapeutic effective dose + gabapentin + a few drinks) ages ago.
dr. m - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:09:16 EST ehbFaOGo No.146243 Reply

Also forgot to mention some of the literature/studies suggest etizolam has a notably slower tolerance increase rate than Xanax, and while both definitely can cause rebound anxiety, I find eitzolams rebound anxiety to be less severe (just my personal opinion).

OP if you choose to get RC benzos, seriously stick with etizolam, diclazepam, pyrazolam, or any other benzo that's a proven major metabolite of another FDA approved benzo, or that otherwise has a decently long positive track record of use in some country in the world.

I've seen some metabolites of I think it was clonazepam for sale, it could have been 3-hydroxy-clonazepam, but I really can't remember. Just stick with RCs that are basically the same an Rxed benzo (e.g. etizolam is a legitimate scripted med in I think India, Italy, and another country). While diclazepam is technically a true untested RC itself, it's been around the RC scene for several years, is rather tame with particularly low abuse potential, the majority of its psychoactive effects appear to caused by its metabolites more so than diclazepam itself, and most importantly, all three of its metabolites are scripted benzos in at least one country on this planet. The two initial metabolites include one that's scripted in 2-3 countries and the other I believe is either an Rxed drug somewhere or a known metabolite of a known Rx drug. Both of those metabolites metabolize solely into lorazepam aka Ativan, which is one of the four most commonly scripted benzos in America (not to mention that it's arguably the least a usable choice of the 4).

Stay away from flualprazolam, clonazolam, etc. That shit is a total disaster for numerous reasons, especially for 0 tolerance users. Don't even consider it. Clonazolam abuse is arguably one of the most dangerous commonly used drugs in terms of physical and mental damage.
Cyril Habblenan - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 03:54:29 EST /I1Ld4ID No.146311 Reply
I find it hard to imagine anxiety is not environmentally caused. You seem to be suggesting this yourself, really. I've had long term anxiety myself which I have recently overcome so this is why I think it. Depression is different.

Replace phenibut with alcohol?

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- Wed, 26 Jun 2019 04:01:02 EST evddYoO7 No.146249
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Anyone replace Phenibut with alcohol? I'm also on 5mg diazepam every other day and few ambien/week. I don't want more benzos. Phenibut helps me gain weight and gets me in the zone, but it kills my emotions, flat affect. 1200mg/day for almost a year. Been at 600mg of late. I pretty much stopped drinking alcohol a few months before I started Phenibut. Don't know if I will regret stopping Phenibut, messing up my gaba a tolerance with alcohol then having to go back to Phenibut. If I go without any I am far less social and far skinnier.
Anyone relate?
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Wesley Shakehall - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:25:43 EST 86bjiiz4 No.146286 Reply
Refill day, so

>40mg diazepam

Of my last script. Hopefully it'll chill me out for work . Have a good day y'all


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- Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:24:43 EST qmKSSjPj No.146185
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>tfw you don't live in the dimension where everything is exactly the same, but benzos are non physically addictive and doesn't cause tolerance
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 20:27:03 EST t8lReBf3 No.146203 Reply
But, such a reality is ridiculous and utopian-esque. Nahhh

NB blank —— fuck this thread HARD! Fuckkkkkkkk
Henry Givingkedge - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:41:35 EST evddYoO7 No.146241 Reply
your ocd is showing. its so absurd, then they wouldnt be enjoyable. doesnt make sense
Scourge of the West - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:56:41 EST miqRUIvK No.146250 Reply
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Oh man the look of the guy from KYW realizing he's going to be in the background of the most homo erotic picture of Kerry ever taken! His assistant seems pretty jazzed about it.

New BWB Mothafuckas

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- Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:58:28 EST 4UFetWzj No.145143
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Current one isn't bumping anymore so I gotta drop a new one.

/Benz/ up folks. Make the most of spring this 2019.

> 1mg clonazzepam/ 2.5g phenibut / 16mg etizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Hannah Clollerledge - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 22:56:49 EST 86bjiiz4 No.146247 Reply
With as much trouble as I had with them, I miss kpins. Maybe I just built a huge tolerance to clonazepam and had to switch benzos. I should try and get a refill of my kpin script even though I'm on diazepam now... wouldn't hurt to try
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:50:10 EST I6YS7H0F No.146251 Reply
20mg diazepam, 50mg tramadol, and 10mg DPH last night
Simon Murdstone - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 20:23:06 EST C81d5Tvo No.146294 Reply
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20mg Valium today, I alternate between Valium and Soma. Which one do you guys think is the better?

I personally think valium is the most euphoric and sedating benzo with great muscle relaxing properties, perfect for my back after I just had a spinal fusion(I refuse to take opioids after I came off suboxone)


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- Thu, 20 Jun 2019 14:33:35 EST fq7sb004 No.146161
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need info quick

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- Sat, 08 Jun 2019 06:49:44 EST 87ZddjMn No.146050
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Have lots of lorazepam, what' a good first dosage to take. Can I drink a few beers with them?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:33:42 EST I6YS7H0F No.146115 Reply
1 to 2mg is a nice starter dosage for lorazepam. I would not advise going over 2mg your first few times, but rather bump up to 1.5mg.

>Can I drink a few beers
Again, being a newbie I wouldn't suggest any alcohol with benzos. If you do want to drink a single beer then maybe look towards taking 0.5mg to 1mg lorazepam. Alcohol and benzos have a great deal of synergy. Too, delusions of sobriety are extremely common and blackouts happen easier than one may initially think.
Don't re-dose either. Take breaks between dosing, and I mean several days.
Barnaby Gemmerketch - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:19:07 EST wNpsW7+K No.146180 Reply
Same newbie question, but for Xanax. What safe dosage for mix with alcohol?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 23:31:10 EST I6YS7H0F No.146205 Reply
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Keep your drinking to an absolute minimum. Too, take a low dosage of alprazolam (e.g. 0.5mg to 1mg tops).
Drinking a single shot, beer, or glass of wine along with 0.5mg, 0.75mg, or 1mg alprazolam is plenty for the vast majority of individuals without a tolerance.

~Ways to go yet~

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- Sun, 16 Jun 2019 21:33:37 EST V29O5Ool No.146141
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So, on a goodly script writing psychiatrist
For a while now. I got my plead of nightly Zopiclone
fufilled. That is all going well, and I can play myself
like a piano into sleep while I'm on it.
Now, she's even appeared positive to put me on
some daily benzo, likely Xanax.
So now I'm writing this to prepp my soon foray into
a much, much more activising and over-whole-ly
type of medicating medicaton. Words from the
Brilliant and smart people of here to give me
some replys, young hobbits.
Shitting Bombletit - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 08:48:18 EST 86LjTa31 No.146143 Reply
>Xanax daily

Have fun with the hellish withdrawals and your sky high tolerance where your daily dose won't even do anything
Clara Werringmore - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:36:38 EST Bhw6+Py9 No.146159 Reply
Right and with this shity half-life he will be taking it 3-4 times a day very quickly. Also rebound anxiety between doses sucks. Not to mention that if you get cut off amd can't find more alprazolam or any other benzo you will probably end up having seizure which in worst case scenario can be deadly. Think twice OP.


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- Fri, 03 May 2019 22:10:11 EST Adekmlyy No.145638
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I have done Ativan and kpins and I fucking love both. They were prescribed from a pharmacy though.
Today I got offered xanax but had to turn them down, they're from a buddy of mine who is a hue drug user. I'm way too paranoid about xanax cut with fentanyl and other shit. Especially once he told me they're from BC which is apparently undergoing a fentanyl crisis right now. Is this shit as common as they make it out in the media? Anyone have experience with fake Xanax? I feel like I might be being a little too paranoid but you never really know.
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Alice Billinggold - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:47:06 EST 4KRku3x0 No.146104 Reply
Anyway my point is you could have pure semi synthetic heroin which would be basically the same thing as synthetic heroin.

Less purified street heroin (which is more like a mix of heroin, 6-mam, morphine, ..) which is what you are most likely to find on the street.

And synthetic heroin which although sounds cool would probably be much more expensive than very purified semi synthetic heroin but have the same effects.

Anyway, yeah if it's active you probably can't sell it (especially in some of the stricter EU countries, I can't legally buy/sell melatonin for fucks sake lol. And that's barely active on a good day... the only 100% thing it does is that if you take a huge dose you get these awesome dreams.
Charlotte Shakestock - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:09:12 EST 30Py2/kp No.146112 Reply
What's the street price of generic Xanax 1mg pills? In my country I can get them for about $0.13 on black market.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:22:18 EST I6YS7H0F No.146113 Reply
It's area dependent. Sadly, many markets have been saturated by pressed bars.
Typically a 1mg alprazolam tablet goes for $2-$3, but I have heard up to $5 being paid out. For pharma 2mg bars the standard is usually around $5/each, but I have heard of people paying up to $10 if they have a plug with a legitimate script.

tl;dr $2-$3 for 1mg alprazolam

Switching docs?

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- Wed, 29 May 2019 04:28:14 EST JtaTLcg6 No.145969
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So my mother has been seeing this quack for well over a decade. He's in family practice, yet his office is known as an infamous pill mill. Anyway, she's been RX'd 2mg qid for a LONG time; was once in this predicament myself. It manages to keep under panic at bay, but the long-term effects are really worrying us (e.g. lethargy/memory loss/worsened depression).

She can't simply visit a detox and taper due to her job as a caregiver. But this dude refuses to hand out anything but Xannies for the kickback $. I'd love to help her find a new psych, but we're afraid that it be as easy as it seems.

Given her long medical history of being on this shit would a decent psych be cool with her switching to something longer-lasting and eventually taper?

Thx y'all.. Be safe out there. I'm still not normal from all my benders.
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George Blezzlestock - Thu, 30 May 2019 01:06:27 EST IJwjzWdk No.145976 Reply
Long acting and less potent my weight benzos for the win, I’d be fucking miserable on xans
Archie Pungerfoot - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 23:38:25 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146002 Reply
I wish I could find one of these pill mills...my doctor sucks. lol
Dr. Mario - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:01:01 EST ehbFaOGo No.146110 Reply

Honestly, fuck that doc and make sure she sees him for a normal refill soon with drug tests etc. Then order a few grams of diclazepam (NOT diazepam), make a volumetric solution, and slowly taper off around 1% per day, or 10% per week if she can handle it.

1mg diclaz = roughly 10mg diazepam = approximately 0.5mg Xanax but lasts 2-3x as long, so some argue 1mg diclaz = 0.75-1mg Xanax XR.

For every 10% reduction in Xanax, also switch an additional 10-20% of her total remaining Xanax dose to diclazepam, starting at 1mg diclazepam = 0.5mg Xanax so she doesn't go into WD. When the Xanax portion starts to get slow, have her "save" her remaining Xanax portion for her night time so she can sleep.

Eventually when she's finally down to like 10-20% her original dose, have her use a combo of good source GABAergics, such as kava kava, valerian root, several others, and LOW dose melatonin at bed to help with sleep.

Indian pharmaceuticals legitimacy.

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- Fri, 03 May 2019 02:07:26 EST gHXf6GsP No.145622
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Hey guys

Ive been buying pills from India for years now starting with tramadol back in 2014, the tramadol were always good quality but recently I bought some somas called PAIN-O-SOMA made by HAB Pharma which were way stronger that somas I get prescribed from a local pharmacy, Ive had gabapentin made by Healing Pharma which seem legit though I have nothing to compare them too really but hey work like I'd expect, etizolam by HAB seem to be decent too though maybe a little weakeer than advertised and modafinil which work well but ive read mixed reviews.

Anyway today I'm trying Zopiclone for the first time made by HAB, they're little blue pills with a score down the middle and Ive read mixed reviews, mostly bad, I guess Ill see how I feel in a bit.

What are your experience with Indian Pharmaceuticals?
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Reuben Gallerforth - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:01:16 EST 86LjTa31 No.146080 Reply

It's seriously, really not that hard dude lmao. Just read the fucking thread and use your context clues and look for keywords. Christ
Graham Sugglechock - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 02:26:52 EST Qkmj9igR No.146099 Reply
Well I found a couple from here and one went down just today when I was ready to buy and the other I can't find a place to buy unless I need to contact them directly.
Shit Crongerback - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 04:08:00 EST inxwOrur No.146109 Reply
>Dude my IQ is in the double digits.

Maybe it would be wise then not to try order controlled medication, cross-border, over the internet. That is just legal ramifications, I'm sure in this thread and in general you have heard the stories of people not using chemicals correctly. Just a thought if your being serious about that IQ statement and from the discourse you have had through out this thread.

Just looking out for your safety. Even if you think I am acting out of line.

CBD and gaba receptors

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- Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:33:53 EST 86LjTa31 No.146096
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I know benzos work on gaba receptors (obviously). I did a little research and read CBD does as well. I need to get my benzo tolerance down bad and was considering picking up some CBD from the shop I work at. It's real quality stuff, not smoke shop shit. My question is will this help get my tolerance down even though it works on the same receptors, if I don't take any benzos? Sorry if this is a retarded question
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:24:14 EST I6YS7H0F No.146101 Reply
There will not be a significant reduction in tolerance. Frankly, I have never heard of anyone using CBD or THC for anything but synergy with benzos.

Pregablin Staggering

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- Mon, 03 Jun 2019 00:20:32 EST QDhN9c1k No.146004
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Is it true that you don;t need to stagger prebablin (lyrica) like you do with gabapentin to get the most out of it?
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Basil Clundernit - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 08:13:51 EST QGOi4Zel No.146019 Reply
Careful with pregab doses tho sometimes, at least for me, it can take a fww HOURS before im actually gaba gaba hey-d and i end up taking like 1200g then it hits you and im twitchin and monged out like a motherfucker

I find it best at 500 to 600mg, makes you functionally/socially chilled
Basil Clundernit - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 08:13:51 EST QGOi4Zel No.146020 Reply
Careful with pregab doses tho sometimes, at least for me, it can take a fww HOURS before im actually gaba gaba hey-d and i end up taking like 1200g then it hits you and im twitchin and monged out like a motherfucker

I find it best at 500 to 600mg, makes you functionally/socially chilled
Archie Gogglefot - Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:33:39 EST 6t4v39M1 No.146090 Reply
And don't take it often, tolerance builds super fast.

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