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Quitting benz and alcohol at once by Doris Blatherhall - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:17:55 EST ID:nuZ0vqVz No.144400 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Past couple of years i've been drinking way too much each night for my lightweight body of about 65kg, i also have a rx for 10mg diazepam x30 which i sometimes abuse. Now my rx is running out way too early and im starting to feel like my health is decaying much too fast and i need to get my life back in order ...

Any advice guys?

I also smoke weed errday but smoking swells my sinuses and causes very unpleasant runny nose, good antihistamines are too hard to get so i dunno...
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dr. m - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:51:11 EST ID:fP4Ld+JI No.144426 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Taper off the booze first whilst staying on a very stable dose of a long acting benzo. Then when you've tapered off booze completely and have been booze free for at least a week or two, begin tapering the benzo. Personally I cant handle anything over twice the reduction speed of the Ashton manual without getting at least some withdrawal.

I suggest reducing 3% of the original dose per day until it gets difficult. All you need to do is dissolve say 10 days worth of normal doses in some refrigerated water and measure accordingly.
dr. m - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:52:25 EST ID:fP4Ld+JI No.144427 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If you can't/wont get help from a professional, then order diclazepam (NOT diazepam) online if you want to stay legal. I actually think it's better for tapering than diazepam.
Nicholas Blythestock - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:50:19 EST ID:nuZ0vqVz No.144443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here

Yesterday i got a new RX of 30 diazepams 10mg, 10 zolpidem 10mg and some OTC loratadine (antihistamine which i havent tried out yet), then went heavy on red wine until i ran out then decided to induce sleep by taking 10mg diazepam and 10mg of zolpidem. Still got that sleepy eyes feeling after a long ass sleep.

My doc really doesn't seem to care as long as i don't request heavier doses or pills... So it's up to me. I can get the same RX only once a month though, yesterday was a surprising exception.

Ivclonlazolam. by krill !q8zLDTZaC. - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 16:16:38 EST ID:Ms4RoFD0 No.144275 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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As side from the difficulty, risk to your veins without a properly balance solution, and very little data on this RoaA.

I can offer some insight. Very slight rush (maybe a 2/10. Just some calmness and really nothing of a rush to speak of. I've tried various doses in different formulations and all appear to work the same to me. I't actual makes no focus drug. Better than most ADHD stuff I've tried - just care what I'm working on.

As is it is it definitely wordy. Not overly talkaive list some beznos makes me me wordy. All in all I'd recommend against just you stave your venous system. Eat/tincture it.
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Caroline Fucklegold - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:28:41 EST ID:i62fV9Ck No.144420 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The docs didn't find etiz in my system after my last seizure either but found weed and adderall. I had taken it daily for a month and even had some the day I seized. I wonder if it was just a panel test, but even then triazalos arent that different from a standard benzo.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:47:44 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Etizolam does not always produce a false positive for benzo. I cannot remember the exact poster (it was either M or Dr. Mario/Dr. M), but they had tested performed several UAs at home after ingesting etizolam. There didn't seem to be much rhyme or reason as to whether you would show up as positive the day of or day after taking it versus not. Don't quote me, but I am almost certain that the UAs were done at least a couple of weeks apart to account for potential tolerance and blood plasma build up.
krill !q8zLDTZaC. - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 18:35:58 EST ID:Ms4RoFD0 No.144430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here
did this once, will not be doing again, As always, make a volumetric solution and dose low. I would not advise another person to try what I did. As is, tapered fine and feeling okay.

ITT we post our most legendary script combos we have had all at one time by Nell Mundlenet - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 09:42:40 EST ID:0bxAZSpt No.143653 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I will start. For 2 years I was prescribed 3x 0.5mg clonazepam, 2x20mg Adderrall XR, 500ug clonidine, cyclobenzaprine (can't remember the amount) and 12mg suboxone all daily. What was your best concurrent round of scripts?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 19:21:08 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Point taken!
Frederick Clayforth - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:32:05 EST ID:C5FXYJWN No.144403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
20mg valium 150 lyrica and 10mg ritalin
othr thn that it would be my e=benzo script plus a bottle of hycodan syrup
Jack Fibbleson - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:48:08 EST ID:TAajfbTu No.144405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
vyvanse and kpins are the best combination on this earth. I was taking 70mg vyvanse (half in the morning and half about noon, otherwise it was too much) plus I'd take 1mg clon with the first dose, then another 1mg a few hours before bed. It was the greatest year of my life, and I had no withdraws from the vyvanse.

peeing in cups for government drugs by Charlotte Battingman - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:50:32 EST ID:83P2pbOA No.144395 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Will etizolam show up on a piss test they give to methadone/suboxone users?
Edwin Hummlelock - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:24:07 EST ID:PsSullpP No.144399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Right, so, being as we have no information to work with ( eg where you live and what test they use) we can't tell you anything. Do your own homework.
Doris Dennerville - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:31:21 EST ID:MxWODgYq No.144402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Highly doubtful, as Etizolam is a thienodiazepine. The more panels a drug test requires, then the more expensive it is. In high enough concentrations it *could* flag a positive for benzos. But you can easily eliminate that possibility by flushing out your system by not using and drinking water a few days prior.

Missing bars mystery by Fucking Buffingkuck - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:47:07 EST ID:ppFQ1deU No.144254 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I ate a whole bar and I woke up and my entire stash just VANISHED. I know i didnt eat them all because I'd be dead if I took that much.

Where the fuck could they have gone? I never left my house. Searched high and low. I'm convinced that I flushed them down the toilet in a blackout. Another weird thing was I had a suboxone in my stash spot too and that was missing as well. No visitors.
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Molly Goodlock - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:17:48 EST ID:9wTq1KFK No.144352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i do this from time to time, ill get wrecked and decide i need to hide my drugs somewhere better, then totally forget where i put them
Shit Bridgeway - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:14:06 EST ID:C5FXYJWN No.144365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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10000% you ate them all i did the same thing but i also bought the bioshock collection for ps4 so it was worth it cus it was like a present for myself from myself
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:44:07 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The “perfect” dose can be found if you take the lowest therapeutic dosage possible then adjust accordingly.

Suicidal thoughts by Reuben Cebblewudging - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 05:04:34 EST ID:UgSj1yrN No.144241 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it just me, or do you suffer this as well?
I recently got a good connect for bars and have been picking up 20 at a time for 3$ a peice (sounds too good to be true, right?) But they're legit, had them tested. Yellow activis bars. Anyway I have a crazy tolerance and take 8 at a time just to get a buzz mixed with gabapentin. The other night I ended up taking 14 and drank 3 or 4 shots of gin with it. I then went into this insane depression (I contacted my ex who I never got over and she wasn't interested, and that set it off ) then I started thinking of all my lifes failures, concluded that I'm a failure, and lost my shit. I've never self harmed before but I locked myself in the bathroom and tried to kill myself. Fortunately I was too wasted to find the artery but my wrists look like they went through a meat grinder. After a few hours I came to my senses and went to bed. Now I'm extremely embarrassed, and would seeing where the fuck that came from. Anyone else experience something like this?
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Martha Crendletuck - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 22:48:04 EST ID:M1gebEsP No.144263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Definitely slow down on the bars homie. Something similar happened to me althought I'm BPD I've never self harmed before just have thoughts of doing it all the time. Also constant thoughts of killing myself almost everyday. One day i took a bunch of clonazolam (not clonazepam) and drank wine. Instantly got super depressed and started cutting my arm real deep with a razorblade to turn the emtional pain into psychical. Actually it felt pretty relieving.. Anways my ex was going psychotic and thought I stabbed my mom or something when i just got emotional and shattered my mirror. She ended up calling the cops

They showed up as I'm bleeding out on my front porch.. Ended up having to spend 7 days in a psych ward for "detox". Since I tested pos for benzos they didn't know if I was taking them everyday. I learned a lot from it and actually went 5 months sober after that expierence and helped get my preggo gf get sober off meth.
I gotta go pick up my friend from work but ill report back
Barnaby Dubbertune - Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:02:38 EST ID:ppFQ1deU No.144288 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's really scary what you realize you are capable of in a blackout state. I've seen and done some crazy embarrassing shit (rolling around on my friend's lawn because i was so fucked up i couldnt even stand up and it was like an invisible force kept knocking me down. And I'm a usually very reserved 28 y/o normal dude who would NEVER let myself be seen doing something like that in public.

Anyways, yeah ive been there. Taking a shitload of benzos is such a downer, literally and metaphorically. You dont get that euphoric anxiety relief, you're just a useless lump of flesh who cant find interest in A N Y T H I N G. The only thing that truly helped me get over a 4 year multiple bar a day habit was a good expensive rehab and then i started exercising. It is key, start small at first, walking, girl push-ups, then work your way up to jogging and lifting. Shit is life changing.
Molly Goodlock - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:16:29 EST ID:9wTq1KFK No.144351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP weve all been there, benzos only do so much, its hardly a high worth chasing and can be depressing to take twice as much and just feel less coronated and more pissed.

I would rather take small amounts of benzos and larger amounts of booze

New to benzo by Nicholas Billingridge - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 04:33:33 EST ID:wFyVnL8Q No.144270 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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sup my dudes, i think this is the first time posting on this board for the first time in 10 years being here.

Anyways, i have anxiety and just tried xanax a few times . I love it. It makes me feel like a normal human being. I took like 3mg and drank some brews i do not remember anything but my friends said i was having fun.

Anyways, there is someone here who knows more about long term reasonable usage here and how to get scripts in canada, I'm flying to Japan for a year and am super scared of flying will my dr help me out?

Am i the only one who loves this shit. I never knew i could feel so chill and calm all the time with this stuff. The rebound anxiety is real tho. If anyone could give me some advice i would be super thankful

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Jarvis Nigglewet - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 17:52:08 EST ID:adoMiWwT No.144276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>long term
pick one.

i would recommend going to a psych if you feel these would help. if possible, /benz/ as infrequently as you can. drinking and taking xanax regularly to deal with anxiety is no good. also, if yr anxiety is generalized/all the time, and not panic attacks, xanax may not be the ideal benzo for you, given its short half-life.

i'm not canadian, so i don't know what doctors there are like; here, everyone is so scared of getting someone addicted to drugs, it's likely someone coming to a psychiatrist will first be subjected to a dizzying array of SSRIs and other things that don't do very much.

good luck
Brain - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 23:29:05 EST ID:c/UafPZm No.144279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Just wait until you feel benzo withdrawals combined with that rebound anxiety, it's so much worse.


>it's likely someone coming to a psychiatrist will first be subjected to a dizzying array of SSRIs and other things that don't do very much.

Also this,
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 10 Nov 2018 14:35:31 EST ID:gobwnE2x No.144285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The only truly safe way to take a benzo for years on end would be PRN and likely 1-2x/week MAX. Really 4x/month, pertaining to alprazolam, wouldn’t put you at risk for physical withdrawal. However, the mental dependency and fact that it is very easy to 1) re-dose, 2) take higher and higher dosages, and 3) increase frequency with the justification that it’s still as needed.
With that said, plenty of people do have benzo scripts that they only use a couple of times per month for years on end. Despite this, these drugs are mentally and physically addictive even with low to moderate usage. Practicing control is imperative.

feeling retarded good by Sophie Drobblechadge - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 18:58:45 EST ID:fNVlQA1P No.144214 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I mixed wine, ambien, and phenibut together, but not in large enough doses to black out, and I had a really good time. I can only describe it as "feeling retarded and care free". I was so fucking happy. Now I know benzos don't release dopamine like stims and opis do, so what is the cause of this feel good feel?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 19:34:29 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Welll, numerous things are possible. In reality you’re likely just feeling next to no anxiety and being care free. For individuals who suffer from anxiety the decrease in anxiety can be thought of as euphoric.
Doris Barringchon - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 17:33:20 EST ID:FgLsz+65 No.144252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Alcohol and I'm pretty sure phenibut do cause increased dopamine levels. Drugs don't have to be direct dopamine reuptake inhibitors or releasers to have a downstream effect on dopamine levels.

Also this.

time by carl fuckaspoon - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 18:31:53 EST ID:nISA4w/r No.144178 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just took a 5mg diazepam 30 mins ago but not feeling anything How long should I wait before taking another.
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Cyril Drazzlehood - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 13:33:26 EST ID:fP6l98wt No.144211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can take 2 hours, ya know the idea of taking more pills, so be it if you will.
10MGs will feel
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 16:01:51 EST ID:gobwnE2x No.144228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP - wait at least 1 or 2 hours before re-dosing. Also, keep in mind that diazepam and it’s metabolites build up in your system so merely taking 5mg in the morning and 5mg an hour later will not feel the same as taking 10mg at once or 5mg at 2:00 and 5mg at 12:00.

Honestly, I feel like diazepam starts acting after 30-45 minutes. But, the effects are subtle compared to a fast acting benzo (-lam group).
Lillian Bucklesut - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 08:29:00 EST ID:PSo/c1C0 No.144248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Diazepam kicks in quite fast... I can feel it in 15 mins. Clonazepam on the other hand needs half hour for me to start to feel an hour to peak

Clonazolam w/d by Eugene Megglebury - Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:48:36 EST ID:FhRHPik6 No.144112 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone else gone through this before? Thought I learned my lesson over a year ago when I had full-blown delirium tremens. Just got done with a 2-month binge and fucking regret it. Last dose was almost a full week ago, but the weekend was seriously difficult, and damn do I feel like absolute shit.. Worst part is probably all the shit I did/said while high and am just remembering. WHY DO I DO THIS
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Cedric Sorringhudge - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 10:10:33 EST ID:YdBT5uMy No.144187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shit man the same shipment of clon killed one guy and almost killed another guy in my circle. This one guy was taking it so much and driving around, smashing into peoples mailboxes, even crashed into a creek but his car was fine. Dude would send the wrong texts to people, he called me up one time saying he was pulling up cause I robbed him. Sent me a paragraph meant for his girl too. One day he flipped his car and cracked his skull, I think he even lost brain tissue. He was on life support and his parents considered pulling the plug when all of a sudden he had a miracle recovery. Dude just came back to life practically. He should be dead. Also I should mention him and a friend of mine got into a fight with a crowbar over it and now are totally cool because they were all out of their minds. Guy who died found some that my friend had locked up while he was in jail and just did a shit ton and drank a shit ton of vodka. We dropped him off at his dads place but couldn’t get him all the way to the house so we just told his dad to come get him. Long story short, his dad never did and he was found dead in the morning. Benzo RCs and most benzos in general are fucking evil
Ian Snodstone - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 14:29:27 EST ID:4wJTAWQM No.144212 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Sorry to read about your friend dying.

Something else you wrote makes me wonder if there have been other incidents where someone put themselves into a benzo coma needing life support only to have family remove life support letting the person die (when they would have come out of it)
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Personal dumb benz experiences by Oliver Chattingville - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 02:12:28 EST ID:B8DHdTZo No.143667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>have been slowing down benzo use from daily to tapering and everybother day
>bored af one Saturday, decide to dose 2.5mg flualp (aka about 5-7mg alp, with a much longer half life) early in the day
>black out
>come to hanging with my roommates
>apparently had done a bunch of the last of my 4-fa
>like 400mg thoughout the day
>also 400mg gabapentin at some point?? It was gone in the morning
>very vague recoluection of snorting a 65mg line of 4fa but thats it
>more friends come over
>we go barhopping
>i order several beers and white russians
>completely smashed
>play a game if pool poorly
>go from bars to friends house near our house, kickback going on there
>i imediately go to couch and crash
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Augustus Naffingchork - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:30:13 EST ID:Nh6bi7/b No.144084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>start your day with double dose of alprazolam which I've been taking for a week at that time
>add 1mg clonazepam cause why not
>drive to univerisity
>grab some beer on my way cause I'm not sure I obliterated my anxiety enough
>do some presentation with people I don't even know
>it goes well
>on the way home smoke some cigarettes at bus stop
>some old lady starts talking it's illegal to smoke here (which is true)
>tell her to call the cops
>she doesn't do anything besides mumbling something
>hit some grocery store on my way
>steal some poppy seeds cause my inner opi addict kicked in
>make some pst at home cause nothing else to do for the whole day
>have some fun playing games and chatting with people
>it seems that my benz and opi tolerance is quite high as I'm still fully functional
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Augustus Naffingchork - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:31:09 EST ID:Nh6bi7/b No.144085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh and I almost forgot that most of this story is what I found out by reading my conversations with friends and posts on some drug related forum the next day
Nicholas Bubberville - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:51:24 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.144232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>taking etizolam, 3-meo-pcp and vaping a-pvp daily
>extreme mania and sense of 'I don't give a fuck'
>need money for more drugs
>don't want a job just money
>buy a few anonymous prepaid visas
>have pretty old ebay account with very good seller rating
>make a few auctions selling new ssds at slightly below market price (basically just enough to not look like a scam but sell quickly)
>whenever I sold an ssd I withdrew the money, went to amazon and order the exact model to be shipped to the ebay buyer with the cheapest (untracked shipping)
>buy gets ssd, I contact amazon support and say the package never arrived, they offer a refund or reship I pick refund since it was a gift for a friend and I had already bought another one (you could do this a few times with each account/card before they figured it out and banned you at which point I'd just make a new account using another prepaid visa)
>making pretty good money as it is, seller rating very good
>say fuck it that's too much work
>put up a bunch of even more expensive products on ebay, they sell immediately since my rating was so good
>not actually ship anything and keep selling more and more shit
>when buyers complain I apologise and refund their money, seller rating even higher, giving refunds using the money from new purchases running basically a ponzi scheme
>say fuck it, take the money, close the accounts, that was 5 years ago and nothing bad has happened to me so I assume I got away with it
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First valium by Simon Cellyhid - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:08:25 EST ID:nISA4w/r No.144171 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My boss gave me some 5mg and 10 mg Diazepam ,First time taking a benzo, only drugs I've had are weed, kratom and shrooms.

I'm thinking of just taking 5 mg at first to see what its like. What should I expect? Thanks guys.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:03:23 EST ID:2+mP7yeT No.144191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A 5mg, 7.5mg, or 10mg dosage is a fine ass starter dosage.
I remember my first time taking diazepam. I took 10mg then went to a party. Maybe 6 hours later I took another 10mg. Diazepam had a beautiful glowing come up and lingering effects for me when I first tried it.
Enjoy yourself and try not to drink alcohol. Chill vibes!
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:04:58 EST ID:2+mP7yeT No.144192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>what should I expect?
Muscle relaxation, physical and mental anxiety relief, some sedation, and an overall sense of calmness/well-being/not giving a fuck about life’s problems.

Cyril Drazzlehood - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 13:22:41 EST ID:fP6l98wt No.144210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People get these when they take airliners,> if you will.

Valium is far different from say, clonazipam, or xanax.
So, 5 MGs 15 MGs one would feel the 15 MGs, as well
5 MGs, I would assume.

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