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- Thu, 04 Jul 2019 17:30:18 EST +4BaEvmB No.146373
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Tips for my first tramadol experience? I going to buy it in a 10 ml jar
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dr. m - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:58:12 EST ehbFaOGo No.146454 Reply
>>146405

Close but not quite right.

The large dose should always be taken at the end. So NOT 100 50 50 50...best way is 50 50 50 100.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:11:18 EST t8lReBf3 No.146455 Reply
>>146454
Very true and thanks for the assist.
Due to blood plasma concentration, yes. Most of the time I actually take the highest dosage at the end rather than the beginning if I’m trying to get the most out of the drug. Staggering at all should discussed, but taking the higher/highest dosage at the end is the best means.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:12:53 EST t8lReBf3 No.146456 Reply
>>146420
I do believe two hours is the window to stay in. 1.5 hours was more so a dosage example rather than best practice.

nb

Questions about GHB

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- Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:16:36 EST ET7aHuVe No.146152
File: 1560975396964.png -(821877B / 802.61KB, 1000x717) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Questions about GHB
I would like to hear some experiences from those who used GHB at least a few times.

FIrst: How fiendish it is? Is there a pressure to compulsively redose? I have a problem with benzos that i start with a reasonable dose, then when it kicks in, i "decide" that i take more, then more until i take a whole bottle in a few hours and end up blackout. This would be very dangerous on GHB or even potentially fatal.

Second: Is there that hangover/"instaWD" that comes with alcohol? I talk about that glutamate spike thing that makes you feel like shit the next morning. i know that ghb half life is short, more compareable to alcohol than a tipical benzo.

Third: Is there a "satisfaction" feeling with it? I never get that on benzos, i enjoy them very much but always want to get higher and higher despite i know good and well that it won't get me high, just knock me out into blackout. i've heard ghb is among the most euphoric downers, i wondered if it makes you feel like "everything is great right now, i don't need to use any more drugs at the moment, just chill and enjoy". That would be great.

Fourth: Is there a delusion of soberity? That makes me do all kinds of irresponsible things that i deeply regret the next day. If it would have a much lower degree of that, that would be great.

Thanks for the replies.
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Martha Wisslelirk - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:02:06 EST 1FJ95ULm No.146233 Reply
>>146232
Listen to this poster, OP. I have witnessed several people overdose on GHB and they were all quite experienced users. Dosing is tricky.

Where I live we call it "our PCP" because plenty of people have ended up walking the streets naked, grunting like a moose and trying to fuck people's mailboxes.
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Molly Blorrydadging - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 18:09:39 EST eAUPFGkX No.146356 Reply
>>146152
>>146210
>>146157
>>146232
>>146233

Thank you.

>plenty of people have ended up walking the streets naked, grunting like a moose and trying to fuck people's mailboxes.

lol this sounds so fucking hillarous if it happens to someone else but it would be so fucking bad if i would end up in the TV for acting out naked and full retarded on the streets.

What exactly is tricky about dosing? The redosing and the curve of intoxication level? Is the actual concentrartion of ghb salt in the liquid known usually? It would be bad if it was something like coke that percentage can vary 3-4-fold.
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Fanny Ninkinpig - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 14:52:26 EST JDUvVX+G No.146430 Reply
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>>146356
ghb is best drug tier. its hard to dose because it goes from mild effects to thats not bad to omg bets euphoria ever to blackout/zzz, and between tolerance, weight and stuff its very hard to know what will get you where. its also very easy to get hooked because the euphoria is pretty consistent.
Its not usually a quality issue, since ghb/gbl is really cheap, just a problem of moving a ton of liquid. coke is much easier to dose

Busbar = Garbage right?

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- Thu, 27 Jun 2019 00:20:15 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146257
File: 12.jpg -(80085B / 78.21KB, 666x69) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Busbar = Garbage right?
Hey so I just got Rx'ed Busbar and Clonazepam. I shouldn't even both fucking trying to Busbar right? Like IIRC that shit is garbage...(I got them once as bars years ago...blame the GF for not checking the pills on her phone as deal was going down.)

Prolly just say the shit sucks and get Vistiril and Klonopin.

Discuss
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Fanny Ninkinpig - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:58:02 EST JDUvVX+G No.146423 Reply
get the last laugh by posting the video in /sa/ then linking to that post in this thread. white knights are so painfully embarrassing.
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Caroline Bliblingsag - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 23:36:22 EST iLlEpcOH No.146425 Reply
>>146423
I mean I personally don't give a fuck but idk how it's white knighting to not want porn on a sfw board i think that's why the pic got deleted, idk i'm too faded to read through the thread and i really don't care that much too, not even gonna touch on what a spergy insult white knight w/e you do you

Benz get tips.

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- Wed, 05 Jun 2019 22:42:25 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146035
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Trying to get benzo's but doctor keep saying dumb shit like "its all in ur head"

despite me having such bad anxiety I get pale as shit and my heart is about to literally explode. bp through the roof too (180/120).

any tips?

pics related, dumb ass nurse stabbed me when I was at the ER last for anxiety. But note how PALE I am in the first screen shot (still having anxiety attack) versus the other (normal). I look like a fucking ghost.
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Walter Hazzlefure - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 00:54:44 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146297 Reply
>>146092
i get drug tested frequently, hence why it has to be legit.
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:38:15 EST ehbFaOGo No.146385 Reply
>>146035

Buy etizolam. It makes the regular cheap panel dip tests pop hot within 2-5 days of use, but if you insist they send it to have lab analysis and threaten legal action if they intend to fire you without doing so, they'll most likely send it to a lab. Most labs don't check for etizolam still, though it has become more common.

Another option to my knowledge is pyrazolam, but I don't know for sure it won't pop hot. Clonazolam doesn't pop hot but it's not safe for usage in any dose whatsoever IMO when taken more than once a month and in doses above 500ug-1mg tops during that single monthly use. Even that is total speculation. All I know is multi week dosing of low doses like even 60-150ug causes much worse negative benzo side effects than the equivalent counterparts.
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William Crallershaw - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:55:17 EST 8wRyP6Vh No.146388 Reply
>>146385
thank you. I got klonopin finally, and im drug tested by probation not for a job.

Tapering while on probation?

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- Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:54:54 EST JtaTLcg6 No.146330
File: 1562021694022.jpg -(141025B / 137.72KB, 800x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Tapering while on probation?
So a friend of mine is tapering off of Alprazolam, but I suggested they try Diclazepam. Thing is: they're on probation. If given a random drug test, will they be able to differentiate the benzos based on mass spec? They're aware of the Alprazolam, but I don't want then to risk getting in trouble for presence of a different benzo--that is, if they go beyond a basic drug assay and send it to a lab for further scrutiny.

Thx, y'all! 💙
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:11:21 EST ehbFaOGo No.146381 Reply
>>146338
She's best off buying Xanax from a legit patient who has their own script, or buying tons of differently sourced bars and having someone else sample a quarter bar or each one until you find bars with the same ass-bitter taste as Xanax. That doesn't prove its Xanax (could be flualprazolam) or exclude the possibility its Xanax combined with another benzo (any tasteless benzo), but at least they're increasing their chances of consuming real Xanax to start with. The only problem is no street bar is the same dose...most are 3-5mg instead of 2mg from what I've read and heard. Some are roughly 2mg, some are much less than 2mg, and some can be completely bunk.
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:13:41 EST ehbFaOGo No.146382 Reply
>>146338
Also PAWS isn't the same thing as acute withdrawal. Acute withdrawal can be serious and possibly fatal. It's not safe. What's their daily dose and quantity left, and history of usage (what doses and for how long)? What's her current/past history with alcohol use, or any ambien/other sleeping pills?


WHATWILLHAPPEN

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- Wed, 03 Jul 2019 19:08:25 EST iAA0PAwq No.146357
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I've been benzo free 8 years after a 8 month taper from xanax.
Would I fuck myself up if I got drunk?

Shortish acting benzo of choice?

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- Thu, 27 Jun 2019 04:08:35 EST evddYoO7 No.146262
File: 1561622915194.jpg -(408996B / 399.41KB, 1410x1049) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Shortish acting benzo of choice?
I think alprazolam or temazepam are my choice. Really wish I could get midazolam. I'm stuck with etizolam. Afraid to ask my sub doctor for another benzo in addition to diaz and zolipidem. I don't abuse them, just take tiny doses. Are there any other short acting benzos that are worth discussing? (save triazolam)
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 17:47:58 EST I6YS7H0F No.146327 Reply
>It was a bottle like pic related
Actually, if someone is receiving the exact amount of a medication in a typical Rx bottle that would be on the shelf it is not uncommon to receive the shelf bottle rather than an orange/amber bottle. Instead, one would receive the bottle with the original labeling as well as their Rx info attached to the bottle. This happened to my brother several times due to having a #100 x 0.5mg clonazepam script. The bottles are kinda cool to look at, but mostly waste space. Unless someone is hellbound on collecting shit it isn't much different than receiving a traditional script bottle.

>>146325
Yup. I remember the post about someone getting their denied their clonazepam prescription substituted by their pharmacist for lorazepam. To my knowledge this is illegal. Yes, a doctor can write brand permissible change and certain pharmacies can deny an individual or refuse to give them a generic manufacturer that is not in their normal stock, but they can't just give a completely different drug in the same class.

Example: Pharmacist notices a client/patient has a script for hydromorphine, but substitutes a different opioid such a codeine/tramadol/hydrocodone/oxycodone because it is "less addictive." Would this ever ethically and legally happen without doctor approval? i would think not!
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Charlotte Cacklepotch - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 06:35:40 EST zZTNO9C9 No.146347 Reply
>>146327
I think you mean hydromorphone, nor hydromorphine.
However if they swapped my prescribed codeine or tramadol for oxy or morphinr I wouldn't mind that at all. Nb
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 21:41:40 EST I6YS7H0F No.146353 Reply
>>146347
Oddly, it was an autocorrect mistake. Hydromorphone and oxymorphone are heavy as fuck. I wasn’t a fan of oxymorphone and still have yet to take

My point was having a heavier script replaced with a less potent opioid.

nb for opioid talk

I wish for death

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- Thu, 13 Jun 2019 20:50:29 EST 86LjTa31 No.146118
File: 1560473429879.jpg -(41427B / 40.46KB, 720x719) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I wish for death
I'm benzo dependant, I need them to not have a fucking meltdown from anxiety everyday but they don't really do anything for the really bad days (most days). I have treatment resistant major depressive disorder, general anxiety disorder and panic disorder. I can't hold a job because I get so fucking anxious and stressed out no matter how calming the environment is. I'm constantly a nervous fucking wreck. My doctor won't prescribe me Xanax for whatever reason which I know will help. No antidepressants help. I'm sick of this fucking life. I made so many mistakes and have so many regrets and I just want to die. I have a gun but I'm too pussy to do it. Please convince me to /benz/. I'm 22 and stagnant in this life and I can barely fucking stand it anymore. The smallest things set me off. I want off this ride.
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dr. m - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:49:22 EST ehbFaOGo No.146242 Reply
>>146226

This right here. I know RC benzos are moderately more difficult to obtain domestically via clearnet compared to just 2 years ago, and their overall market price has definitely increased, but this is still the optimal choice.

Etizolam is superior to Xanax in almost every way, and if it's not superior in one aspect, it's likely more of a preference issue (e.g. Xanax is more sedating so it's better than etizolam for sleep, yet if you want a benzo that leaves you functioning during the day, then etizolam is superior).

Unfortunately, etizolam is a Schedule I substance in my state these days, which is being idiotic because all the other stronger, more dangerous RCs got a free pass. Personally I wouldn't bother with a S1 benzo, might as well buy S4 benzos.

Luckily I came back from SE Asia with a decent amount of both Xanax and Valium, and I rarely use it now anyways, and I stopped what I consider recreational use (2x therapeutic effective dose + gabapentin + a few drinks) ages ago.
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dr. m - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:09:16 EST ehbFaOGo No.146243 Reply
>>146242

Also forgot to mention some of the literature/studies suggest etizolam has a notably slower tolerance increase rate than Xanax, and while both definitely can cause rebound anxiety, I find eitzolams rebound anxiety to be less severe (just my personal opinion).

OP if you choose to get RC benzos, seriously stick with etizolam, diclazepam, pyrazolam, or any other benzo that's a proven major metabolite of another FDA approved benzo, or that otherwise has a decently long positive track record of use in some country in the world.

I've seen some metabolites of I think it was clonazepam for sale, it could have been 3-hydroxy-clonazepam, but I really can't remember. Just stick with RCs that are basically the same an Rxed benzo (e.g. etizolam is a legitimate scripted med in I think India, Italy, and another country). While diclazepam is technically a true untested RC itself, it's been around the RC scene for several years, is rather tame with particularly low abuse potential, the majority of its psychoactive effects appear to caused by its metabolites more so than diclazepam itself, and most importantly, all three of its metabolites are scripted benzos in at least one country on this planet. The two initial metabolites include one that's scripted in 2-3 countries and the other I believe is either an Rxed drug somewhere or a known metabolite of a known Rx drug. Both of those metabolites metabolize solely into lorazepam aka Ativan, which is one of the four most commonly scripted benzos in America (not to mention that it's arguably the least a usable choice of the 4).

Stay away from flualprazolam, clonazolam, etc. That shit is a total disaster for numerous reasons, especially for 0 tolerance users. Don't even consider it. Clonazolam abuse is arguably one of the most dangerous commonly used drugs in terms of physical and mental damage.
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Cyril Habblenan - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 03:54:29 EST /I1Ld4ID No.146311 Reply
I find it hard to imagine anxiety is not environmentally caused. You seem to be suggesting this yourself, really. I've had long term anxiety myself which I have recently overcome so this is why I think it. Depression is different.

Replace phenibut with alcohol?

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- Wed, 26 Jun 2019 04:01:02 EST evddYoO7 No.146249
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Anyone replace Phenibut with alcohol? I'm also on 5mg diazepam every other day and few ambien/week. I don't want more benzos. Phenibut helps me gain weight and gets me in the zone, but it kills my emotions, flat affect. 1200mg/day for almost a year. Been at 600mg of late. I pretty much stopped drinking alcohol a few months before I started Phenibut. Don't know if I will regret stopping Phenibut, messing up my gaba a tolerance with alcohol then having to go back to Phenibut. If I go without any I am far less social and far skinnier.
Anyone relate?
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Wesley Shakehall - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:25:43 EST 86bjiiz4 No.146286 Reply
Refill day, so

>40mg diazepam

Of my last script. Hopefully it'll chill me out for work . Have a good day y'all

subjevct

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- Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:24:43 EST qmKSSjPj No.146185
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>tfw you don't live in the dimension where everything is exactly the same, but benzos are non physically addictive and doesn't cause tolerance
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 20:27:03 EST t8lReBf3 No.146203 Reply
>>146185
But, such a reality is ridiculous and utopian-esque. Nahhh

NB blank —— fuck this thread HARD! Fuckkkkkkkk
ASS!
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Henry Givingkedge - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:41:35 EST evddYoO7 No.146241 Reply
>>146185
your ocd is showing. its so absurd, then they wouldnt be enjoyable. doesnt make sense
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Scourge of the West - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:56:41 EST miqRUIvK No.146250 Reply
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Oh man the look of the guy from KYW realizing he's going to be in the background of the most homo erotic picture of Kerry ever taken! His assistant seems pretty jazzed about it.

New BWB Mothafuckas

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- Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:58:28 EST 4UFetWzj No.145143
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Current one isn't bumping anymore so I gotta drop a new one.

/Benz/ up folks. Make the most of spring this 2019.

> 1mg clonazzepam/ 2.5g phenibut / 16mg etizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Jason - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:02:33 EST +zfpJOPp No.147257 Reply
>>146294
I hope all of you guys/girls on here know the permentant damage you are doing to your GABA receptors from taking benzos. Especially binging on high doses. But even long term Dr. Doses does irreversible damage! You can expect to have life long damage. Pcytosis, 1000×s worse symptoms than you were origonally treating. Paranoia, early onset of Alzheimer, possible fibromyalgia, night terrors, misdiagnosis, and the list toes on and on and on. And this will go on for years ever after the 6month-1 year psyical withdraw symptoms subside. Something tells me that most of you have no idea the life long torment you are in for. I started benzos at 16 and now I'm 38 and my fuck I wish I could go back. My GABA receptors are fried. And that was from 10 years if perscription treatment which discontinued in 2009. I have not recovered my GABA centeners are destroyed and its what now almost 2020! This benzo shit is no joke! This is why companies like Etizolam solutions Canada do what they do. They will catater to addicts or Ingestors or kids. They are searching for w CURE that a whole bunch of you will someday need or may already need, sadly. Get mad at me if you want, however I speak 100% from my heart and caring about what some may not know what these benzos will do to you.
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Jason - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 17:00:28 EST +zfpJOPp No.147261 Reply
>>147257
Edit from last post: Etizolam Solutions Canada WILL NOT cater to addicts or kids.

PS: their site is down when Its back up I suspect they will have a verification system in place. I talk to them a lot and the are professional. They have top quality products but are very strict with who they deal with. They are trying to discover a cure for the benzo GABA mess so many people go through and reduce harm to the fullest extent. Catering to drug addicts or people who are careless goes against all they believe in and they refuse to do business with anyone who is looking to simply "get high". That will destroy the research abd bring attention to the compound. If your a user abd don't approve of Etizolam solutions canada's verification process then you might as well move onto the junkie site ED and get your tainted product before hes behind bars. Openly selling a cathiones on the clearnent. (NDH) HIGHLY ILLEGAL. not to mention ever changing quality from a guy who has zero clue how to ensure his products are not tainted with fenytalogs! Yeah Etizolam Solutions Canada is different. I perfer them anyday. At least they care about me!
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Albert Turveyridge - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 17:27:22 EST 9V8lxzzs No.147263 Reply
>>147261
Never heard of this site, since when can people source, never?

Unless this is some kind of PSA about some bad vendor, not even sure that's allowed either. I only know and am a member of one classic canadian vendor that has etizolam, but sometimes goes on for months without having it, but they're around.

That said, weed legalization has created very pissed off and/or bored LE and customs agents who doubled down on their overzealousness from unlisted in Schedule IV benzos that have never been a problem ordering from europe or the US even until mid 2018, when suddenly I had 3 love letters in a row, and left it there, I think it's more related to the fact that those 2 vendors over there sell stuff that was made schedule I because of the goddamn NBOME ban, products that were staple RC's in the Canadian vendors stores since the very beginning back in 2000 even, 2c-X being a prime example of completely legal to illegal the next day when the fucking unneeded NBOMEs/NBOHs were banned, dragging with them so much phens that only mescaline analogues remain the phens I know canadian vendors actually still sell.

All 3 love letters did not say the products (flucotizolam, clonazolam) were illegal or scheduled by the CSDA, they were using some obscure importing law and I didn't have to sign anything, not a registered letter. My best guess is that they are watching those vendors overseas for other products that sell more than these, 2c-X's, PCP analogues (PCP is a common street drug in eastern can, it's our crystal meth, so analogues like PCE and PCP-y were banned a long time ago, the PCP we have here often being a mix of all 3 of those).

Quaaludes

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- Thu, 20 Jun 2019 14:33:35 EST fq7sb004 No.146161
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BRING BACK DA FUCKIN QUAALUUUUUUUUUDES
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need info quick

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- Sat, 08 Jun 2019 06:49:44 EST 87ZddjMn No.146050
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Have lots of lorazepam, what' a good first dosage to take. Can I drink a few beers with them?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:33:42 EST I6YS7H0F No.146115 Reply
>>146050
1 to 2mg is a nice starter dosage for lorazepam. I would not advise going over 2mg your first few times, but rather bump up to 1.5mg.

>Can I drink a few beers
Again, being a newbie I wouldn't suggest any alcohol with benzos. If you do want to drink a single beer then maybe look towards taking 0.5mg to 1mg lorazepam. Alcohol and benzos have a great deal of synergy. Too, delusions of sobriety are extremely common and blackouts happen easier than one may initially think.
Don't re-dose either. Take breaks between dosing, and I mean several days.
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Barnaby Gemmerketch - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:19:07 EST wNpsW7+K No.146180 Reply
Same newbie question, but for Xanax. What safe dosage for mix with alcohol?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 23:31:10 EST I6YS7H0F No.146205 Reply
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>>146180
Keep your drinking to an absolute minimum. Too, take a low dosage of alprazolam (e.g. 0.5mg to 1mg tops).
Drinking a single shot, beer, or glass of wine along with 0.5mg, 0.75mg, or 1mg alprazolam is plenty for the vast majority of individuals without a tolerance.

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